“A LOT of Red Flags” | Friend of OceanGate Owner Gives Bombshell Testimony on Titan Submarine

[@JM-ym8mm]

This dude is clearly traumatized by the experience holy heck.

[@ShuRugal]

Yeah, people are reading this guy's responses as "angry", but i'm reading them as someone realizing that he was standing in front of an angry machinegunner and that he only escaped by the skin of teeth. The way he starts and answer and then just cant finish it... exactly like talking to guys who were in combat and don't understand how they survived it.

[@davidcalhoun1731]

He seems rattled just a bit. PTSD?

[@sparthyslaysstuff2405]

@@davidcalhoun1731 absolutely. imagine talking to someone and explaining on their current path they're going to kill themselves or others after being traumatized. And then it happens. I'd be replaying those conversations in my head forever.

[@cyrogyro]

Disnerving…or datnerving. You choose

[@joleevasquez4461]

He dodged a bullet!

[@Vesperitis]

You can tell that so many people at these testimonies are freakin' traumatized by not just the implosion, but by all the BS that happened before it.

[@portabletaz]

Its a form of survivors guilt I think. They are all looking at this mountain of evidence that was hidden from them for years and thinking how easily it could have happened at any time with any of them on board this death balloon and thinking how lucky they were it didnt collapse with them inside.

[@wallacegrommet9343]

Its like a Trump presidency. Bullshit promises, just believe me, don’t listen to the critics, i will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it, so many health plans, make everyone a mission specialist is MAGA delusion

[@katherineweber8955]

Yes.

[@TheKetsa]

When a company calls customers "mission specialists" ... RUN.

[@Ruka-f7k]

That’s a common occurence in spaceflight. Crewmembers are better trained than OceanGate customers obviously

[@kimthreadgold2755]

Pay 250,000 and have to work as a crewmenber. Imagen flying 🪽 and taking turns..😊 That i

[@kimthreadgold2755]

It's great the sub was making scary noises. Cracking sounds. A lot of really smart engineers. All saying safety before profit.

[@seangilchrist3102]

Imagine having the memory of being down there and making it back.

[@SirCraigius]

Riding on the Titan was like playing Russian Roulette. You might get lucky and survive. But eventually luck runs out.

[@badscrew4023]

better than not making it back

[@InvertedFreeSolo]

There's a fantastic documentary that I watched right after this happened where they make a successful dive to the Titanic. It was surreal to see everyone with no clue how close they were to death. I think it was on NatGeo?

They where not mission specialists. They where paying customers going on a thrill seeking trip. This nonsense about mission specialists is just another way they subverted law to avoid responsibility.

[@jasonaltham7013]

were

[@Ruka-f7k]

It is a term used in astronautics, where the crew members (commercial ones included) are trained for spaceflight. Not applicable here

[@AngryHateMusic]

Calling things by nicer names is always the governments game, and charging a fee. Calling things by their proper names are how things change for the better. But, we don't need laws to see the problem here.

[@gk2811]

If I were piloting or a passenger in a submersible, I wouldn't want to hear any noise coming from the pressurized cabin.

[@catherinebreitfeller669]

understandable 😮

[@laa0fa502]

Loud noises happen on every single submarine, even us navy subs at 500 feet, just what happens when you put pressure on an object large enough to fit humans. The big issue was the type of noises.

[@MrShanester117]

Because you have no idea what youre talking about perhaps.

[@YagiChanDan]

@@laa0fa502 Creaking and groaning in a ​cylindrical metal vessel that is certified, I can understand. An experimental composite vessel? F**k that. 😅

[@stizzl-69]

Steel, Titanium, acrylic wich are normaly used, can deform a certian way until it breaks and will bend back when the presure is released, carbonfiber is very briddle and just snaps like glass, thats why you dont want to hear crackling and banging in a vessel like that, cause when the fibers break, they stay like that and will weaken the hull more and more until the whole thing breaks down

[@jey.skrambles]

Karl Stanley is probably the only person on earth that hates Stockton Rush more than James Cameron does

[@luporis2375]

I think David Lochridge dislikes Rush even more....

[@firebir11]

I question anyones judgement even just "friends" with Rushed. Reckless I think is the word he was looking for.

[@nonmihiseddeo4181]

I never heard of Rush until the implosion put him on the radar of everyone in the Western World, and I hate him. The arrogance and hubris he displayed, his careless disregard for human life, all make Rush hate-able and his memory cursed.

[@TJ-W]

Pretty sure that kids mom might hate him more. James Cameron has nothing to do with this. His feelings on the subject are no more important than yours.

[@goaway152]

Don't forget the children of the other two men ​@@TJ-W

[@PAS_2020]

Favorite testimony of the whole session of days. Colorful. Didn’t have to play politics for future job security - future employers. Could say it as it is. Entertaining start to finish. One of the best insights on Stockton Rush.

[@wjatube]

His handing over the controls, so others could descend, was his way of saying he was ready to die but he did not want to pull the trigger himself.

[@catherinebreitfeller669]

and he didn’t want to die alone

[@wjatube]

@@catherinebreitfeller669 hmmm. I never thought about that. I sorta see it as every dive he does successfully is living on borrowed time until the next dive. And he has more money in his pocket.

[@michaelbee8263]

Pls 🤦‍♂️

[@hecknogmo3720]

They also could’ve used the controls to ascend

[@10MinuteGuitarJams]

Spreading the responsibility.. Gross.

[@Evebear]

Still can’t believe it was hit by lightning, half sunk, bounced around for miles, left to sit outside without protection for months. I’m sure no one would have ever gone in it as a paying guest if they knew

[@CroshVine]

This guy is searing with anger. And listening to his testimony, I completely understand. I had no idea it was THAT noisy.

[@robbiet8583]

I heard that Stockton had said the sound is “screaming loud”, when it’s happening. There is NO WAY I would have wanted this experience.

[@iOSAT]

That also made his testimony fairly unreliable as it boiled down to, “I was mad then because of what know now” as so much of his statements were framed from the perspective of his current knowledge.

[@barbaraludwiczak4728]

@@iOSAT Yes, also, other professionals probably scolded him endlessly for being naive, he admits as much. He is very emotional. I wonder how his interactions with STockton Rush looked like.

[@thefrener794]

@@iOSAT Aww, someone who has never been lied to and mislead by someone they trusted. So nice to know you exist in your candy cane and bubblegum land. Stay there!!!!!! this world is too rough for you son.

[@iOSAT]

@@thefrener794 Yes, of course, recognizing someone’s inability to regulate their emotions and separate their current feelings from the objective retelling of events makes me… live in candy cane and bubblegum land? That’s an interesting perspective, I’ll be sure to take that into my next deposition, might make it easy to just let the court know I’m apparently insane or fragile?

[@jcortese3300]

There's so many freakin bombshells about this clusterfk that the absence of a bombshell would actually be a bombshell.

[@LuckySpinster.]

I don't even stand for wrinkles and cracking in my gift wrapping

[@sydneysantillana2193]

😂

[@thefrener794]

Oh Lord, LOL.

[@ScoobyDoozy]

Wrapping Mission Specialist over here 😂

[@MD-jn8vq]

@@ScoobyDoozycharles schwab ova here

[@new2dc2883]

😂😂😂

[@rachelannsmart3710]

It takes time to figure out that someone betrayed your trust and almost killed you in such an overtly dangerous way. This guy is angry, and still confused. He got through this well.

[@wendiwonderly1419]

This story gets crazier by the day. Stockton rented an entire resort in the Bahamas to attract billionaires and give the outward appearance that he was successful and able to give a high value experience. Then he’s gluing inferior materials with adhesive. He reminds me of neighbors I had. They lived in an old basement with tar paper on the roof. They also weren’t very bright. Finally they got the materials to put a shell of a house on top of the basement. It gave the outward appearance that they lived in a house. Unfortunately they never paid the charge on the materials so they could never finish off the inside. Then they went on living in the basement while the half finished shell deteriorated. They had an excuse. They didn’t have much money and they were poor managers. Stockton rush was just an overprivileged arrogant blowhard who did experiments with other peoples lives

[@wendiwonderly1419]

One time these same neighbors bought their son a guitar for Christmas. Now do you think they’d buy a guitar he might learn a few chords on? No they bought him an electric guitar. Unfortunately they never paid the charge on the guitar so they could never get the amplifier. Stockton rush had this kind of mentality and just enough money to be dangerous

[@Sunweaver593]

He sounds a lot like Trump telling everyone how rich and smart he is, while bankrupting businesses 6 times, including CASINOS! Nothing but hot air.

[@georgewashington2930]

@@Sunweaver593 Politics has no business being posted on this video. Stop it.

[@adamellis3013]

Karl Stanley is very knowledgeable on all this. Has a very successful fleet of subs himself

[@504chino]

Right I met him in Roatan Honduras last year in August cool dude he got a nice lil set up in 🇭🇳

[@wallacegrommet9343]

Yet his demeanor is humble and reserved, free of ego displays and bragging

[@dirtypossem]

If I was 2 Miles deep and heard cracking I'd be like hell no we are going back up.

[@LichaelMewis]

AND NOT GOING BACK DOWN!

[@Ephemeral2023]

There would be total chaos.

[@tjburr1968]

@@dirtypossem was this submersible the same one used that imploded?

[@macvos]

​@@tjburr1968it's the predecessor, that also failed, but fortunately enough, with more luck than wisdom, not catastrophically.

[@solesticia]

This man sounds so upset.. And rightly so.

[@johnmurray9526]

Craziness. "Its making cracking noises.. but lets go deeper!" 🤪🤪

[@TylerChamb]

sir that cracking noise is the sound of literally breaking. Stockton claimed that sound was actually making the hull stronger and healthier by selectively 'breaking all the weak carbon fiber threads'. Uh come again? That's the crazy sh** I've ever heard someone say before sinking themselves to the bottom of the ocean in a coca cola can.

[@TheDragiix3]

@@TylerChamb bro that's like driving a car at full speed claiming all the cracks in the windshield make it stronger let's ride straight into the hail 😂

[@GamerFrisco]

Very careless and selfish of Stockton Rush.

[@pauleckert4321]

Sad thing is there are still people defending Stockton. Boggles my mind.

[@greyfriars6540]

@@pauleckert4321 The "Mission Specialists" are still in the delusion. They are telling themselves that Stockton's toothpaste tube was viable and they were doing valuable scientific work. When in fact they were tourists being used to cover Oceangate's questionable practices.

[@jarlwhiterun7478]

​@@pauleckert4321he was a billionaire. Those bootlickers come out of the woodwork to defend them against all logic, against their own benefit, and it's a huge mental health issue for them

[@Asshat237]

​@@jarlwhiterun7478 he wasn't anywhere near that wealthy or this thing wouldn't have been so cheaply built.

[@angrydoggy9170]

@@Asshat237Being rich doesn’t exclude being stingy. If anything you become rich by being stingy.

[@oatlord]

Man I wish KZbin would normalize its audio levels. One video can barely hear. Next one starts and I'm scrambling for the volume button.

[@henrikpettersson2886]

Agree

[@pjbosman4191]

There is a setting on videos at Additional Settings: "Stable Volume" You can try swtiching it on or off, depending on what you need

[@cail171]

​@@pjbosman4191wow thanks going to try that. Feels like regular TV commercials blasting your ear off while you car barely hear the other show

[@TheRustiestShackleford]

@@oatlord and standardize brightness too!

[@bearb1asting]

Oh, that switch helps, but don't worry, there's plenty of awful creators out there that have no clue about audio. ​@@cail171

[@ryanhampson673]

If you haven’t seen it Karl Stanley gives an interview on the KZbin channel Ace. This was right after it imploded and he doesn’t hold any punches.

[@roberta.6399]

I wouldn't of put that thing in a backyard pool.

[@magnuscamper]

Those noises were death missing with his scythe.

[@vaughnkavon3993]

😂 good one ! . . . 😂

[@jmisolis]

spooky!

[@julesdunning2934]

Was doomed the second they called it “OceanGATE”

[@rodovanra6783]

I have a space program, the rocket is made of laminated paper mache and I use a Nintendo switch as a controller, do you want to ride the rocket to space, also we are called HeavensGate. Bring your family and pay me 20k per ticket.

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

Titan went to his mother, Titanic. It's in the name!

[@georgewashington2930]

@@Peekaboo-Kitty First there was the Titanic disaster... Then we had the Titan disaster that ironically went to go visit it’s mothership that its name was christened after... What will the Tit disaster look like I wonder?

[@anthonyng3014]

His handing over the controls is a psychological trick to try to get everyone on his side. Basically, we're all working together as a team, we're all in on this as one. It also is a show of confidence to the "mission specialists", implying that driving this sub is so easy and foolproof that anyone can do it and Stockton himself wasn't worried at all. The root of the issue is of course the hull cracking and breaking under the stress of each dive. It caused the scary noises and it ultimately caused the death of everyone on board.

[@tjburr1968]

@@anthonyng3014 was this submersible that was referred to in this video with the scary noises the same craft they used when it imploded?

[@anthonyng3014]

@@tjburr1968 This was hull 1, but as the replacement hull was manufactured to the same specifications as hull 1, what happened to hull 1 was likely happening to hull 2 with the exception of the lightning strike. As hull 2 didn't experience the lightning strike and still imploded, this actually demonstrates the root cause of the implosion isn't the unfortunate lightning strike but rather an inherent design flaw in both hulls. I'd bet my life savings that if they dug up hull 1 and repeatedly put it down to Titanic depth, that it would end up the same as hull 2.

[@susandavidson5357]

As a trained engineer, as far as i know Stockton Rush was only ever a partially-trained engineer. Not a registered Professional Engineer. It requires a lot more than an undergraduate degree to become a P.E.

[@DrPowerElectronics]

Yes it does. I went through the process with more than 30 years under my belt and I had stuff to learn and a tough exam!

[@susandavidson5357]

@@DrPowerElectronics I'm 🇨🇦, so the registration process doesn't generally include the standard exams. But I've looked into the exams every decade or so. I practice coastal and ocean engineering. It's a long-time recognized field of practice (e.g by ASCE) but we are relatively few in number. No exam in our field. Could I go back and write the PE exam in civil? Maybe when I first graduated. But not afters yrs of practice.

[@DrPowerElectronics]

‘Hell no I want to back to the surface’. Exactly! Imagine the poor young lad.

[@amerramday]

Mission specialists...😁 It was a Micky mouse show..

[@JM-ym8mm]

A Mickey mouse trap for billionaires.

[@realistic.optimist]

Chuck E. Cheese.

[@Soul2burn]

Right on 😄

[@StephenSpring1]

this sounds more like a podcast than a testimony. I appreciate the honesty

[@jsullivan2112]

This is what real testimonies sound like.

[@raginald7mars408]

this is about a Psycho Path - Not "technology" and the Sheeple following him

[@JTown4]

Psychopathic and even sociopathic are very unlikely. Despite his arrogance, there's no indication the man completely lacked empathy or compassion. Narcissism however seems likely. Either way I see your point and it's just a tragedy that must be learned from, even if it means Rush gets raked over the coals for as long as it takes.

[@Supermanohman]

Yup. All problems can be traced back to one man's ego

[@JTown4]

It's psychopath and that actually doesn't make sense. Narcissistic is the word.

[@doreendaykin6693]

👏👏👏👏👏👏🫡 GRATITUDE!!! This is the BEST comment of all the comments I have ever read describing the reality of Stockton and the “ sheeple “ that followed him. You win the Award for BEST COMMENT 👏👏👏👏👍👏🏆🥇👍🫡

[@Mucklegipe]

It seems that the company were financing sea trials by charging customers to take part in those trials.

[@archdornan4389]

The kickstarter swindle

[@Mucklegipe]

@@archdornan4389 Aye, I got kind of stung with the Pebble watch, having just purchased the Pebble 2 for them to abandon the company and sell out to Fitbit, who months later shut off the servers and abandon the watches all together. And I was an early contributor to RainPal a helmet auto wiper for the visor, they took my order, promised a device when they become available, none materialised!

[@jenniferst.george810]

i have been fascinated with this story since the disaster happened. There were so many warnings about the titan but he still went ahead. It sounds like the fatal flaw was the glue seal in the front. RIP to the victims of Rush's folly

[@zoe9190]

Im pretty sure the fatal flaw was using carbon fibre for the pressure vessel. If they had used titanium like any other deep sub, there wouldnt have been a delaminating problem. There were many flaws, but carbon fibre should never have been used

[@elyseforseth8821]

The glue was an additional flaw, sure, but the carbon fiber hull failing due to its inability to withstand intense pressure (as demonstrated by the cracking noises on all deep sea dives with the Titan) is the reason it imploded. After several missions to such depths, the hull should have been maintained or, better yet, replaced (even though titanium would have been ideal). But Rush never did. He just continued using the same vessel that was slowly breaking down with every dive until it finally gave way and imploded. It was inevitable.

[@ReyKaf]

It was greed and ego that killed Rush

[@unr3alGaming]

I understand the rationale of trying to keep questions to a specific scope for the purpose of doing the investigation the way the Coast Guard wants to do it, but by the same token I'd like them to also shut up and let the guy tell his story, from his perspective, even if that means the interview needs to go long or they need to do a separate interview immediately after or before. This may be the only time he speaks in public about this, especially with a professional interviewer instead of a news site with a bias or an unprofessional KZbinr who pays him a couple of grand for some short clips on a web cam.

[@skeetrix5577]

I'm glad you posted this OP - you can definitely tell this was a government run hearing over all the squabbling over semantics I'm just sitting here yelling into my little screen "LET DUDE TELL HIS STORY DAMMIT" lol we've all been awaiting over a year now to finally hear how bad things really were and they wanna "limit his testimony?" that was infuriating to me and I'm glad I'm not the only one

[@macvos]

This was far from the only testimony. They were at it for days on end. Can't blame them for trying to stay on track, even if things are skipped that are interesting by themselves.

[@unr3alGaming]

@@macvos Yes, I've seen a lot of the footage, though I'm sure in order to actually cover everything with each witness, they could actually interview each one of them for the same duration they spent interviewing everybody if they wanted everybody to get it everything off their chest. I'm sure we'll see a few of them speak out as the years continue to pass but I think the fresher the memories are for these people the better and more complete picture we'll get.

[@jonathanlogan6647]

It's a miracle the thing ever made it to the titanic on any dives. Holy cow, only 1200 ft depth and all these issues already. Nevermind over 12000 ft.

[@ninosan6585]

This guy is legit. He’s been in the submersible game for a long long time

[@LunaticTheCat]

His testimony was filled with way too much opinion, though. He should have just stuck with the facts.

[@nickdale6660]

Right. But bear in mind that for as long as he's been in the "industry", he's essentially just a guy running a small business with his boat. He's not like that OceanGate operations director with dozens of certifications and international maritime standards experience etc. That's why he comes across a bit - let's say - comparatively rubeish with his presentation. He's at the hearing because he was one of the first people aboard the Titan. He raised flags because it's pretty obvious to anyone with a pair of eyes that the vessel was flawed. But other than the emails he sent, he's not really adding much

[@joleevasquez4461]

@@nickdale6660Seems to me those emails will be a big part of this case.

[@lukenaylor6458]

@@LunaticTheCat Yeah, I'm afraid that this guy's testimony might be dismissed as unreliable because of that. This is a shame because of what he said at 14:50 about the lack of disclaimers he agreed to, which I'm not sure has been testified before.

[@ninosan6585]

@@LunaticTheCat I mean yeah it was but it’s not like he’s trying to get anything from oceangate. He knew a lot about rush and considering the the other testimonies about rush’s antics I doubt his opinions were far off from the truth. Maybe he’s not really good at these kind of hearings. But he knows a dam lot about submersibles.

[@bobwhite3895]

They casually toss this word "implosion" around fully aware of this all too real risk. This isn't just thrill seeking, it is something more, I find it a bit disturbing when I listen to these people.

[@JackJackKcajify]

your right its stupidity

[@mortenthorpe]

The implosion happens so quickly, I believe that for Titan it was ca. 5 milliseconds… that it is merciful …

[@belle.m]

Stockton Rush seems like he was the boss, what he said goes, and the people who worked for him were too afraid to call him out and say it wasn’t right or safe. A bunch of yes men that were supposed to be experts just satisfying the whim of a madman.

[@jltrem]

Reminds me of the Trump Administration.

[@LazzarrusLong]

@@jltremPrecisely

[@glengrieve544]

Great content and beautifully presented thanks for the upload watching from Melbourne Australia 😢

[@jllucci]

Stockton built the perfect millionaire murder machine

[@toffeetoffee6457]

Billionaire

[@joshuawiseman5629]

the funny thing is the strain gauges and real time monitoring Worked and had stockton actually gave a crap to have it analyzed it wouldve told them long before your sub is starting to buckle,stockton was an absolute lunatic

[@chirho100]

The Hunley had more reliable engineering than Titian.

[@KRDecade2009]

I know you’re making a joke, but you’re right. Every time Hunley sank nothing needed to be repaired or replaced .. well outside of the crew.. but if one were to drive Hunley today it’d work mostly

[@swwiftyy]

More strucural integrity in a cardboard box, then what was in that submersable. Poor souls on board, they would have been safer in a kinder egg.

[@hannesorisson1200]

But the Kinder egg is illegal in the USA.

[@capndallas4918]

​@hannesorisson1200 it's not, only the toy is illegal.

[@jllucci]

@@capndallas4918 then it it's a millionaire's equivalent of a kinder egg

[@McHaro0079]

They name it Kinder Surprise for a reason.

[@mafortu9032]

Having Helen Keller drive you around is a more sound idea than this ridiculousness. Holding your breath and swimming to titanic would have been safer.

[@nobbybrown8056]

He's just confirmed SR was crazy.

[@richardsewell8657]

Hit by lightning, left out in a frozen winter. They were really trying to find the breaking point of that thing wernt they.

[@JRChuxx]

I think that submersible was 'RUSHED' to productions.

[@allancouceiro9255]

they rushed a ton

[@mnmmnm8321]

Spot the hazard; Assess the risk; Make the change ! Thinksafe SAM would have saved them.

[@alfbigboy]

This definitely should not have happened.. There were people who knew exactly how dangerous this thing was. Honestly, I think somebody should've sabotaged it to the point where they couldn't use it or destroyed it or something.. I know that sounds crazy but those people did not fully understand how poorly designed it was, and how badly it was maintained. The very people who should've saved their lives, ushered them into oblivion. I don't know about you, but that's very disturbing to me. Rest in peace to all the passengers and God be with their families.

[@rachelklein2319]

THIS IS THE BEST LOGIC. YES, YOU ARE 1000% RIGHT. SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE TITAN SHOULD HAVE DESTROYED IT IN AN EFFORT TO SAVE HUMAN LIVES. SOME PEOPLE QUIT, WROTE LETTERS, SENT EMAILS, CONTACTED THE AUTHORITIES...AND NONE OF THAT WORKED. THE ONLY ANSWER WAS TO DESTROY THE TITAN OR MAYBE TO HAVE STOCKTON RUSH PUT IN A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL AND UNABLE TO CARRY OUT MORE DANGEROUS DIVES...BUT THE IMPORTANT PART WAS TO SAVE LIVES. I HAVE OFTEN THOUGHT THAT IF THE GERMAN PEOPLE WOULD HAVE SABOTAGED THE TRAIN TRACKS, HITLER COULDN'T HAVE SENT SO MANY JEWS TO THE DEATH CAMPS. WE NEED TO BE MORE BOLD TO SAVE EACH OTHER. YOU ARE VERY ADVANCED IN REASONING. THANK YOU.

[@CarbonatedGravy]

Saboteur would more than likely be caught and sued into the ground only for it to be built again, gotta do things legit

[@alfbigboy]

@@CarbonatedGravy yeah exactly!!! Doesn't make any sense but that's how it is. The people who knew it was gonna happen had to sit back and watch it happen. their hands were tied because he said they would've got caught. They would've got in trouble and he probably would've built another one anyway.

[@Stark21293]

If I was about to get into any untested vessel and heard the creator say “you’re gonna hear some noises…..brace yourself” I wouldn’t fucking get into it 🤷🏻‍♂ and “mission specialists in training” was just what they called paying customers in order to get around needed red tape in terms of making sure a craft is safe

[@wallacegrommet9343]

The people inside were the acoustic monitors

[@ruthcollins2841]

They CHOSE to take a tourist visit to say "woo, we have seen the Titanic". Now they are there permanently. 👎

[@TheRustiestShackleford]

I’m deeply saddened by the loss of Paul Henri Nargeolet, and Suleman Dawood. Suleman was reluctant to go, likely knowing how dangerous it was. And PH only went with them because he thought if there was a problem with the dive, that he would be able to help out and fix any issues that came up. Stockton can rot in piss, he did this to those people.

[@halomultiplayermoments]

@@TheRustiestShacklefordhow do you know what PH thought? No one knows what he was thinking except him.

[@TheRustiestShackleford]

@@halomultiplayermoments because that’s what he told his friend James Cameron. JC was trying to warn PH of the danger, and dissuade him from participating. And this is what he told JC.

[@Baasicstuff]

So why didn’t anybody say anything? I’m a 20 year Navy NDI tech and I have the brains and the will to stop a moron that’s about to kill people. These people were completely incompetent. Just watching them work on the submersible makes me sick with the amount of mistakes I see as they worked made the destruction of this thing inevitable. Stockton was an idiot how anyone couldn’t see that or hear that as he spoke is amazing. He surrounded himself with yes men and young.

[@ravenzyblack]

Plenty of people did say something and they got fired for it. One man was even sued by Stockton, after voicing his concerns and being fired.

[@nicky5185]

There is a name for this. Criminal neglicence

[@mnmmnm8321]

People need to go to jail; this continues to make the world cry if nobody is held responsible !!! 😮😮😮😮 😮

[@mnmmnm8321]

Why isn't the government in trouble for letting this happen??? 😮😮😮😮😮

[@Ephemeral2023]

If one passenger panicked, it wouldn't be, "Okay, we'll turn around and go back up." "Thanks, captain Stockton." I think you'd have everyone holding that panicked person down. Panic won't be sweating your balls off. It will be hyperventilation, and all hell breaks loose in such small confinement. I was in a swimming pool in water lower than my chest. I had a kid on my shoulders, he suddenly panicked, grabbed me tight around the throat and took both of us down under. I got disoriented and didn't know which way was up with a kid still strangling me.

[@th.burggraf7814]

What about the 11 sqft of delamination he wanted to talk about?

[@texanrob]

Mr. Stanley in his testimony is talking all over the place. He never finishes a complete sentence. It is somewhat hard to follow his testimony. 😳

[@macvos]

Can't blame the guy for being somewhat emotional and having trouble organizing his thoughts

[@shaunmcclory8117]

"Has that 'surfaced' at all"? ...unfortunate term to use😂

[@chattycoryn5064]

Karl Stanley ❤❤❤❤❤

[@Bubbles99718]

Around 30 years ago or so I saw a vid about helicopters. They brought up why aren't composites used for the blades. Lighter being the biggest benefit. If I remember correctly. Guy said yep, those benefits are huge but when composites fail they immediately shear off. Zero time for a safe landing. Metal failing still allows for some functioning. So that alone has kept composites being used for helicopter blades despite the vastly superior other benefits. I have no idea if that has changed over the last few decades, so there's that. I'm not even at the layman level for this stuff. But this being a well known element of composites for decades.....yeesh. How did this happen? One loon, you would think, might get away with it, but there were dozens or possibly hundreds involved with the building of this. Crazy.

[@ronwade2206]

12,500 feet depth is 5,553 pounds per square inch of pressure. That thing crushed suddenly but it had to make terrible noises first 😢

[@martinmendez695]

How hard is to understand that a rope can pull heavy loads, but it is not able to push them? An engineer must understand the difference between tensile and compression material resistance.

[@wattage2007]

Thing is, it's looking like the failure was in the bond between the forward titanium ring and the CF hull. Not a surprise at all when you see how they carried out the process.

[@davidregehr2687]

I think it was more the tube explosively collapsing and the force blowing off the the ends.

[@GreenGoblinDK]

It wasnt a rope..... composites can take heavy compression loads if done right and it is dimensioned correctly.

[@Sidowse]

@@GreenGoblinDK No they can't!

[@SpeakerMunkey]

5:45 "hit by lightning" just when I thought they couldn't be more incompetent!

[@home_town88]

All of the money wasted bringing the Titan up and these proceedings all because of a DUMB 💩 is ridiculous!!!!!

[@Astinsan]

6:28 he just made statements that can't be used.. hearsay. probably should of stopped him.

[@hybrid32494]

Like this guy said, these people were just thrill seeking risk takers, but they did not know the FULL risk! Well, nobody questioned why carbon fiber isn't used for planes? lol. Clearly its a terrible material for any sort of compression loading.

[@ROFLtheWAFL]

It used for airplanes in general, but the batch Rush got from Boeing had been rejected

[@Krafty1620]

Carbon Fiber is used for planes. lol

[@Krafty1620]

@@ROFLtheWAFL I haven't watched all of this trial, why was the carbon fiber rejected? Did he procure rejected material to save money??

[@veganbutcherhackepeter]

It's the main composite material for modern airplanes and it's used on the pressurized cabin. Thing is, it behaves very different when stretched (you can tow your car with a few strands of carbon fiber) as opposed to being compressed. In other words, it will work just fine as a pressure chamber when the pressure is applied from the inside, but very poorly when the pressure is applied from the outside. And in airplanes we are not talking 1 atmosphere vs. 400 atmospheres either.

[@nigelbarker8726]

It's not terrible in compression, aircraft upper wing skins are mostly loaded in compression.

[@geofrancis2001]

mission specialist sounds better than mass grave tourist.

[@carlschroeder6811]

It doesn't take an engineering degree to understand that carbon fiber performs under tension, not compression. That being said should tell you that repeated dives will steadily degrade a carbon fiber hull, leading to separation of fibers and glue joints, resulting in salt water impregnation and ultimately catastrophic failure. A few dives to design depth does NOT constitute proper testing PERIOD!

[@kimthreadgold2755]

Thanks!

[@budwhite9591]

Hear me out. Netflix or HBO needs to make this a movie or multi part series with Bill Hader as Stockton Rush. Watch Bill do an Al Pacino impression. This will be gold!!!

[@GLARebel]

Starring; Logitech F710 Controller and Stockton Rush "NO SUB ON EARTH COULD GET ANY CHEAPER" TITANIC II Directed By; James Cameron

[@shable1436]

Lot of those vids use AI to morph the faces too

[@irieite9666]

Ben Shapiro sounds like Stockton

[@57Jimmy]

It’s one thing to hear the noises on descent but to hear louder ones coming back up?😳 To completely ignore that is beyond stupid. That’s a clear sign that the crushing damage was even tearing itself apart further as the pressure subsided. I liken it to stepping on gum on hot pavement. It will squish under the pressure but the real damage happens trying to lift your foot off the pavement. Same principle here😡

[@LazyBoy1805]

From pure legal perspective, this testimony can be easily disregarded by an experienced attorney. He is all over the place while giving the testimony. I understand his emotion and frustration, but that’s not how you testify as a key witness.

[@nicholasrice8693]

Who cares?

[@ZENmud]

From a pure legal perspective, I'd call this something other than "testimony" ... or if insisted upon, then a lot of it is "Hearsay"... as he mentioned. 7:34 he mentions: "no one wanted to be the one who wanted to go up first"... exhibiting the same hubris/peer pressure that skiers who enter and set up avalanches display.

[@humanbeing2420]

I think he's a poor communicator. He doesn't complete his thought before jumping to a related thought. He cannot make coherent, clear points.

[@LazyBoy1805]

@@humanbeing2420 Totally agree

[@grant6173]

This dude is looking a murder charge straight in the eye. Props to everyone that told Stockton that the goober "design" he'd whacked together was bs straight to his face.

[@Ron.Swanson.]

Who is looking at murder charges? The person being questioned? I hope that’s not what you’re saying.

[@bigbrollydotcom]

I still don’t understand how he convinced the billionaires to go down in that death trap

[@Vacoona]

Honestly I think it’s very easy to understand. He didn’t have to really convince them, these were people who were super excited, and desperately wanted to see the wreck in person.(like the life long dream lady testified ) As the guest says, there was paying passengers just waiting to go. Whatever their motivation (ego, bragging rights, sense of adventure, etc.) a lot of it was emotional driven, which clouded some of their logical thinking making it easier to dismiss any concerns. Also they likely had little reason to distrust Rush and his team. People will naturally assume that if Rush would not go down himself, if he didn’t think it was safe to do so.

[@_HMCB_]

Rush was no doubt aware of how immediate death would be. That’s my way of explaining how brazen he would be with his own and other’s lives-he knew he/they wouldn’t feel a thing. Definite sociopathic tendencies.

[@mnmmnm8321]

There's noise in all formats of communication !!! 😮😮😮

[@mnmmnm8321]

People should be doing life in jail .. cmon people this is criminal negligence! 😮😮😮

[@francescoscarinci7109]

Really interesting, and claryfying the Stokton's way of manage the things

[@vinny1883]

"The cracking sounds would amplify as you got deeper" Jesus Christ

[@keithpenny1119]

Karl is the best witness if we want to get to the real cause of the problem. the psycology of the 'Leader' that caused the tragedy. Stockton was a spoilt brat who never heard the word NO!

[@mondoenterprises6710]

I wonder if SR wanted to go down in infamy.

[@clumsyzombie3144]

Rush was so self-absorbed and delusional that he thought if he were to go down with the sub, he and any others with him would be tragically remembered as great and intrepid explorers. Did he really think people would be so blind or stupid as to not ask questions, investigate, or do any forensic analysis afterwards? Absolutely delusional that he thought he was the smartest one in the room til the end. All we'll remember of him now is of a reckless fool and his victims, another cautionary tale for the ages.

[@Nathan-e7o7y]

I remember watching a video karl stanley talking about how he heard noises on a KZbin channel Ace he was telling about it

[@prussiaaero1802]

All these witnesses seem to be holding back and tempering their testimony. Because they were all involved.

[@ZENmud]

How much money did Stockton save, by not creating a titanium shell in the first instance? I have no clue what the cost differential was; did he not want one or two vessels that could do two hundred safe dives?

[@humanbeing2420]

I think his goal was to do things differently - to "break the rules" as he boasted. He thought the submersible establishment was too cautious and was stifling innovation by not trying less expensive but untried alternatives. He didn't want to take the safe path that had already been done. He was wrong.

[@ErinMartijn]

There was also more to it than cost savings. The usual spherical Titanium hulls hold less passengers than a cylinder can. Less passengers per dive equals less income.

[@JibunnoKage-cj2kz]

Cracking is flexing, how can flexing, be a good thing... carbon fiber is not a material that is designed to flex and return to original shape, unless engineered to do so. Clearly the pressure hull was not designed with flexible intent, or it would have never worked at all. Anyone that knows anything about carbon fiber and how it is created, knows this was a horrible idea! And the extensive cracking was not seen as warning?

[@garyhost1830]

To be fair I don't think it was never engineered to go under water. Wasn't it originally a tail section bought from Boeing?

[@EutecticEmpyrean]

Stockton explained the crackling as “pruning “. He said that it was all of the useless weaker fibers breaking, thereby leaving only the strong ones. Big yikes.

[@TC2290-wh5cb]

Carbon fibre can 100% be designed to flex, look at F1 front wings.

[@JibunnoKage-cj2kz]

@@TC2290-wh5cb Sure but it must be 'designed' to do so. But a pressure hull that is cracking... was not designed to flex... cracking just can't be a design strategy, per my understanding of carbon fiber, in context to how it used in this case. I think the results speak loud and clear.... someone designed the pressure hull wrong, or it was implemented wrong, or worse was used wrong for how it was designed and implemented? No?

[@TC2290-wh5cb]

@@JibunnoKage-cj2kz Some flexing was expected/allowed on titan as carbon fibre is not incompressible, you can see this on the strain gauge graphs, the problem is they didn't know at what point the hull became compromised because of these repeat contractions/expansions, they tried to have sensors to keep the flexing in check and thought they could keep it within acceptable limits, but yeah, it didn't work out. It was an extremely risky approach on a material like carbon fibre, they also ignored acoustic and strain gauge anomalies on prior dives.

[@Kat-Astro-Fy]

Poor guy probably has ptsd.

[@rachelklein2319]

Hard to believe. Did Stockton Rush just lack a fear response? Was he so blinded by the money or the ego feed of doing something novel?

[@archdornan4389]

It's the same psych profile that runs ponzi schemes. Lack of optimal success can be offset by more risk.

[@spookshow6999]

It was on purpose. This man right here tells you that.

[@Amanda-zn7ox]

I feel like the accompanying article should be about the submarine, and not the cruise ship...

[@tjburr1968]

Let me get this straight, scary crazy loud noises were heard from the titan durring the test dives with the Titan in the Bahamas? April 2019... was it the same titan submersible that imploded last year?

[@TC2290-wh5cb]

No, they replaced the carbon fibre hull after the original cracked, but kept some other parts.

[@tjburr1968]

@@TC2290-wh5cb so this titan replacement went on test runs too? Or straight to the fatal titanic mission?

[@TC2290-wh5cb]

@@tjburr1968 It had dives prior to the failure.

[@jsullivan2112]

Pure insanity. I honestly think the guy was wanting to martyr himself as a "pioneer" of exploration. That's how he saw it should he die. Sickening.

[@metalmah13]

Why does money make people dumb. Safety is number 1. He even says he cut corners! So so sorry for the family's that lost loved ones. We would all love to see the beautiful Titanic but we're not fish so we're stuck with pics.

[@solaroid4442]

Some people get rich by chance, they were always dumb.

[@janetphillips2875]

I think Titanic has been visited enough. What more is there to see? As for the lights from Camper World, whats the big deal? They were most likely battery powered, and not using energy from the sub's power source. 😊

[@TommyPrins]

only sulumans mother should be allowed to sue,the rest are as guilty as stockton....

[@TGF120]

I'm sorry for those who died but.. jfc.. how did they trust that thing with their life

[@lindsaybaker9480]

This guy is still in shock mode as if he’s got ptsd from a near death experience.

[@Rio_VR]

Imagine the backlash if stockton didnt go down on the implosion dive, and he was alive to face the music.

[@undergroundupholstery]

Chillin in marsh harbor. Can’t even begin to imagine what that cost