A Match Made in Medicine: Life as a Neurologist + Neurosurgeon | Beyond the Scope | ND MD

Welcome to the Beyond the Scope Podcast presented by ND MD. This podcast continues the mission of sharing the incredible stories and experiences of students, physicians, and healthcare professionals...but this time it's all about the things all those years of medical training doesn't prepare you for. Things that are beyond the scope of our practice. Whether it's navigating starting a family as a medical student or physician, or learning how to invest as a student, the goal is to bring on incredible guests who can guide you through those puzzling questions. Today we have two familiar faces on the channel, Mr. and Mrs. Dr. Rutkowski! Cleverly titled "A Match Made in Medicine," this physician couple is an excellent example of how it is possible to balance the busy lives of a neurologist and a neurosurgeon while even taking care of a new member to the family. Their empowering advice to future physicians considering a relationship with someone in the healthcare field is a must listen to. Thank you so much to the Rutkowski's for being an amazing part of this channel and if you are interested in neurosurgery, check out Dr. Martin Rutkowski on KZbin @martinrutkowskimd3709
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[@NDMD]

Check out each of their 73Q Interviews if you haven't yet and of course go subscribe over to Dr. Martin Rutkowski, MD for neurosurgery fun :) links all in the description

[@blubberbun]

Can you please make a video on medical interpreters?

[@jeffyeah4256]

you don't feel guilty that you are pushing the narrative that our women need to marry white men?

[@fraddi]

whos the indian guy hosting? Theres no link to his socials ??

[@Sydney432hz]

have you ever done a naturopathic doctor (ND) ?????

[@bushraothman3429]

Please see this case in the attached video kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJCuootugqtpmLM

[@NoOffensePies]

I loved how he refuses to answer questions for her, always leaving the question open for her side of the story. It's such class

[@dgoncalo]

@Timmy Tran wtf is wrong with you

[@teeen3486]

@Timmy Tran Stop embarrassing yourself you fool😂

[@brandonwarweg3622]

Totally agree...pure class that guy!!

[@Me_di]

The job is equal. But society and how they treat women doctors isnt the same. He knows it. And knows the limitations about his knowledge. That really is a sign of a good doctor. :)

[@fxsez2598]

A lot of men act this way and have exactly this mindset. I've come to find out it's usually the highly educated men who think and act this way. I've stopped looking for partners who aren't educated and have come to find: the more educated a man / a person is, the better their morals and more respectful behavior towards women. With that being said, this isn't ALWAYS the case, but I've found myself surrounded by much more respectful men after surrounding myself with those who are more educated / as educated as i am

[@NamTran1990]

Oh my goodness, Dr. Kim! She's now Dr. Rutkowski as well, but I knew her as Dr. Kim, one of the most approachable, helpful, efficient yet thorough neurologists I've ever met! She always had time for me and my co-residents, no matter how busy she was. Our hospital was definitely sad to lose her to the East Coast. So happy to see that's she thriving. If you're reading, we miss you Dr. Kim!

[@miro9834]

They are absolutely adorable and I admire the fact that they are both specialists in the neuroscientific field. Absolutely amazing.

[@dawchii]

The Rutkowski's need their own podcast! Can listen to them talk all day

[@dwightschrute4750]

They barely get enough sleep, I don’t think that would be possible.

[@taylorswift6420]

Def

[@aaas6348]

@@dwightschrute4750 i know right lool

[@2liter]

I cannot imagine being raised by 2 doctors. That child will be challenged and brilliant for sure

[@americanbobtail1]

Not necessarily. I know of cases where kids were raised by two MD's, who focused too much on their careers and had way too high expectations for their children. One of them had a horrible relationship with his parents, especially his deceased father. Knowing him he would of been a lot better off with working class parents that could actually raise and mentor him, instead of parents too focused on their careers having grandiose expectations for their children without follow-up. Actions have consequences....

[@hisokamorow8388]

I knew this one kid in middle school/HS who’s dad was a business executive and mom a doctor. He ended up overdosing a year after high school graduation.

[@andysok06]

you mean poor kids? they will be neglected. lots of day care and less family time. fights will occur. kids will suffer.

[@DavdBlack]

All of you and these horror stories about medicine parents please keep.them to yourself. Medicine Is self giving profession. Stop being negative

[@crunchychicken2]

@@DavdBlack No one said anything against medicine. They're all talking about the negative outcomes they've witnessed of being a child growing up with parents who have an unnaturally demanding job. To be a doctor you have to go through next level schooling with years of grueling training to be the person that save literal lives. It's a highly respected, beautiful profession to take on that responsibility but it doesn't take away from the point that some doctors don't make the best parents and the children are stuck with that.

[@ayeshakhilji2831]

“Look at the attendings who do what u wanna do not the residents” has COMPLETELY changed the way i think about neuro. A very very helpful advice Dr Martin!

[@drgupta1631]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXKTm6KcjK-Fhbc Really helpful for mbbs/ pg and next pg exam

[@diyapatel3286]

I had a stroke reading the quoted stuff and still dont get it

[@Aaron-xo5zr]

I need a neurologist after reading that quote.

[@thehunchbackgirl]

What

[@m10megh58]

@@diyapatel3286 add a comma(,) between do and not and u r good to go

[@jerryyoua9495]

This couple seems very warm and come across as kind and caring people. The fact that they are doctors as well is even better. I have stage 4 lung cancer with Mets to the brain and had brain surgery in may. My neurosurgeon was great. ❤️❤️❤️

[@Simon-xi8tb]

I hope you survive. Get well soon.

[@Simon-xi8tb]

@john tower But this is normal. People choose their own race. It's normal human behavior The whole point of this race debate is for alienation. We need to alienate more and let blacks and hispanic prosper in their own countries. Africa needs to build and develop on their own .

[@Simon-xi8tb]

@john tower race theory

[@Simon-xi8tb]

@john tower It's BBS, those are best

[@Shiks2]

Jerry Youa, I pray that you will receive Jesus' healing in your lungs and life in Jesus' Name🙏

[@jpdigerolamo]

I love that, in the middle of medical school, you are both taking time to make this video and the rest of the content on your channel. While I’m sure it’s something you enjoy apart from the grind of studying, it takes work to prepare and edit these videos. It’s not like you’re shooting these on iPhones and using camera mics, either. I think the amount of work and intentionality you’re putting into the content-allowing us the privilege of looking into the lives of medical professionals in a more personal way-speaks to the way you are setting groundwork now for the kind of physicians you will both be in the future. Your patients will no doubt be privileged to have you guys as their doctors. You both truly care and are eager to better yourselves. I hope you never lose that! Oh, and this couple is awesome. Stoked to see an interview with them together. Absolute legends.

[@daveshondel5108]

My parents were both physicians and we suffered immensely because they put professionalism and Service to Humanity above all else. we did OK with our friends and the occasional parent getting a few hours to come home during the day. But we were always reminded our family existed for the better good of the suffering masses and as children we could also sacrifice so that sick people and people in pain could be taken care of. And once they retired my parents planned to make it all up to us. Unfortunately, when we were in high school the medical evacuation jet they were on crashed .

[@Abdollah-dr4mq]

What an insane story

[@Brickswol]

Is that a metaphor, or were they in an actual plane crash?

[@johnf817]

A "medical evacuation jet"? Wtf is that? Can you not post stupid lies and pointless stories please

[@angrybear86]

Horrific.

[@cassaundracasey1030]

Truly

[@s.forbes5386]

So they're like the real-life Dr. Grey & Dr. Shepherd ☺️ with a twist!

[@mbolton1955]

These are the everyday heroes that you wouldn't otherwise hear about. They don't make headlines on a daily basis yet they are a couple of the most exceptional and admirable people I can imagine. Thank you both for being such incredible role models.

[@gracesthill8175]

I absolutely adore Elizabeth! I love her general demeanor, it's that type of confidence that is very still and relaxed, she is just wonderful

[@travelfreak7677]

36:22 her constantly saying that it's not gonna be forever like what it is during med school is so reassuring and relieving

[@wow-si6th]

WHAT A POWER COUPLE WOW I AM JUST IN AWE

[@abdelrahmanaminel-khsosy2162]

Dr. Rutkowski is one of my role-models when it comes to becoming a successful neurosurgeon. I am actively seeking every moment of him on KZbin. I am looking forward to working with him in the OR one day.. ❤️❤️

[@caldoreo]

في مصري هنا؟ منور يا باشا

[@osamae6944]

@@caldoreo my fellow egyptians!!!!

[@jaibirsinghbatth3804]

Make more of these with couples one or both of whom are doctors. That will definitely be informative for the people who want to take medicine through a non-traditional path to know how the life of a doctor is being with a partner.

[@user-jj5mm9pi5s]

Yes pls

[@leikryzellemayo5458]

3rd year med student here!! I love them both since you interviewed them both for your 73 questions series. Ahhhhh thanks for this!! They are literal goals ❤️❤️❤️

[@drgupta1631]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXKTm6KcjK-Fhbc Really helpful for mbbs/ pg and next pg exam

[@tapendrakoirala8295]

This wonderful couple has become my absolute favorite ever since I watched their first interviews in 73 questions series. Thank you so much, Mr. and Mrs. Dr. Rutkowski for showing us hope and bringing back our faith in this amazing profession. Greetings! from Nepal.

[@safaltagrg]

Me too. I am so happy I’m not the only Nepali seeing this content.

[@sandor502]

Thank you for doing podcast style interviews with practicing physicians, this is awesome. Please do more!

[@lisajane9394]

I love how they described their careers, the sacrifices made and the impact on their relationship and family life. I also love how genuine their answers were regarding having children and managing with that. All this was well said and well thought out. Thanks for providing us with this great content, Andrew.

[@ritu.sharma]

Brilliant ! Love them both. Huge admiration.

[@tarapizzimenti946]

I think this is a great explanation of how they navigate two very demanding careers. Although my takeaway is that they are very fortunate that their extended families were willing to uproot their own lives and be such a huge support system for them when it comes to taking care of/raising their son. Most people are not that fortunate and will also have to navigate childcare in a much more complicated way.

[@mubashrasajid4093]

Hi. I discovered your channel today. Your content is so well put. Im actually surprised how so many people dont know about this channel. Keep up the good work

[@cindypersaud8805]

Enjoyed listening to their stories about their journey and their work. My son recently graduated as a MD, (first doctor in the family), second son has an interview for medical school in two weeks.

[@asogundaniel]

This interview is so awesome. I am glad I could watch it. Keep it up Andy.

[@ayeshakhilji2831]

Both are my absolute favourites!!

[@lubakrupey3779]

Their boy turn out GENIUS ❤️ This world needs more people like them

[@2468ayesha2468]

The last few minutes of advice are insane. Mind changing

[@jaibirsinghbatth3804]

this is informative. Thanks Elizabeth and Martin for taking the time to make this happen.

[@jessicafabro6437]

My favorite couple!! They are so inspiring thank you so much for being so encouraging you make me realize that all this pain and sacrifice will be worth it in the end. Please keep doing podcasts and interviews with them!! I also wanna see their baby!!!

[@lauranel-boland531]

Wow what an amazing articulate couple. I thoroughly enjoyed this interview. Watching from Ireland.

[@Bill.R.124]

Great couple. He's surprisingly chill and respectful to her. I can see why it "works."

[@QUEEN-dx3hs]

I was feeling really down as a medical student and their advices made me look on the positive side.Thank you so much.

[@melina9245]

Thank you all so much for making this video, both Dr. Rutkowskies are so inspiring ❤ and I am very grateful that all you guys dedicated your precious time to make this video.

[@fashiongirlvargas1]

Omg yes ! Love this please more videos with Mr & Mrs Rutkowski ! 🤗🤗

[@dioradri]

Even in their responses, it's clear both Dr. Rutkowskis have worked through a lot together and are on the same team :)

[@anacarpenter9254]

Viewing 2 doctors in the same field of work a husband & wife team my eyes were clued to the screen. Listening to questions being asked of them and then answered, was satisfying because; of the wives absolute honesty. The husband is equally supportive and totally honest. Work related questions then away from work questions. Having a supportive family with their 11 month baby👶 takes priority from mum to the carer. Detail that becomes everyday life. This husband & wife spoke of variables and work attune with life self gratification is visible to the eye as a viewer. Healthy outcomes tying it together if it breaks down years of experience with partner advice gently putting you in a safer frame of mind.❤❤😊

[@thesabiqoon4178]

Beautiful couple! All the best for them! Very inspiring. Spot on about timing and being late and unpredictable.

[@dr.soltanikhadidjaikram2097]

This podcast is my new every day affirmation audio

[@shrishti2341]

Thank you andy for bringing such intellectual people

[@shrishti2341]

34:02 she answered it soo beautifully ..doctors are amazing#respect

[@nancyher9356]

I love this interview so much!!! Thank you for doing this. Power couple!

[@mxaliftferu8691]

I loved their answer to “advice from a year ago”

[@Mila-yv3rm]

I am not in the medical field but I enjoyed this a lot! Great questions were asked and both doctors are amazing and you just learn a lot from their knowledge and perspective in life in general.

[@babybaby5893]

Pls have them more on your channel. It’s fun to listen the beautiful and down to earth couple talking about their life.

[@tattedviolinist]

She’s such a strong woman! Kudos

[@vivek27789]

True.. Very True

[@raghuvenkatesan6792]

No

[@kimkardashian6991]

He answered each question with such dedication .........

[@breebrat56]

Sincerely appreciate both specialties! I’ve had personal experience on the patient side of things interacting and being cared for by my neurologist in office, virtual video visits, & hospital multiple day stay for epilepsy testing. Definitely grateful for my neurologist, hospital epilepsy care team, ( super stars ✨ are the nurses! ❤) , and the amazing care I experienced when going thru the most uncertain, scary, & terrifying situations of experiencing the worst seizures in my life multiple times per day. They kept me safe while keeping me present, grounded, and always reassuring when it was really difficult. ❤❤❤ The journey is far from over but at least I have an amazing medical team to help me thru it! 😊

[@nothingavailableleft]

I really don‘t understand why we don‘t educate more doctors and surgeons so these people who are already sacrificing so much for society get to have a life. You know, nothing crazy, just maybe more than 10 minutes a day that they can spend with their life partner. These two seem lovely together but families are falling apart left and right and if society prioritizes work like this it‘s no wonder. I’m changing so much as a person all the time, if my partner never got to witness that they‘d naturally be married to a stranger at some point. We‘re overworking ourselves in so many professions but the medical field is just taking it to another level. I hope as society we can start valuing family over work. It‘s also crazy if you think these people are working crazy hours to save our lives just so we spend a majority of it working.

[@TheCasou]

He touched up on that towards the end of the interview and pointed out how he loves what he does

[@liv0003]

Many surgeons are workaholics and highly competitive by nature. It takes a certain type of person to become a surgeon, it's not a career for everyone.

[@Lerppunen]

The US has very low doctors per capita compared to other developed countries. The number of doctors being educated is being kept low in order to keep their pay incredibly high.

[@teeen3486]

Being in this line of work, it’s not a thing of being able to ‘choose work over family’ they literally have to lol, do you have solutions for that? People love to complain on how this is overworking but what are the solutions?

[@nothingavailableleft]

@@teeen3486 right, that is a solution. If you have more doctors, the workload on one single doctor can lessen.

[@VARUNSINGH-sj5mg]

Just going to start my internal medicine residency in India...nothing could have been a better advice to sooth your nerves than this video. Thanks a lot :D

[@marhabamaryamdilber]

This was amazing and very reflective, I have kind request PLEASE!!!!! a 73 Question interview with a Pediatric Surgeon!!! Please please please… Thank you keep up the amazing work.

[@flatif23]

Thank you for doing this… truly motivating 🙏🏼

[@Dinikii9898]

Mann they are such a good match I would never get bored listening to them

[@maxxxgsd]

Both Are one of many of Gods gifts to humanity. So proud of them and anyone who they inspire to be the best they can be in the medical culture.

[@vince-vh8ut]

I’d give that video several thumbs up if I could. Especially their last words are so encouraging. Thanks for sharing!

[@opufy]

I watch his episoe all the time he's my motivation even though I dont want to (I can't) ever become a neurosurgeon but he's a hero like superman, I can't be him but I aspire to.

[@jeanlanz2344]

Very good questions. Martin and Elizabeth gave thoughtful, honest answers. As physicians and former residents, they've seen a lot of suffering and as a married couple and parents, have grown in empathy for their patients and each other. I hope they'll be blessed with more children. They are a kind couple.

[@Autumn-uv2zy]

My fav couple ever!!! pLEASE HAVE both of them on the podcast again!!! for updates. more medicine advice, relationship advice, etc.

[@sophianddavid]

I love this please don’t stop these

[@sofiayeremian1006]

This was so wonderful and helpful! I love this channel!

[@levan_pipia]

Good to see Will Wheaton went back to Med school and got his degree

[@fatimamumtaz5428]

They both are my favourite ❤️❤️💕💕

[@cheeeful]

Now this is a gem

[@prisce7642]

Almost in tears from minute 34:00 absolutely loved the interview!

[@Amayazm]

There whole relationship follows the olive theory perfectly, if you don’t know what that is it basically means they are opposites but that’s what makes them a perfect balance

[@Snowyness]

LOVED this! best MD couple!

[@mistyangel1960]

When I say he is the second coming I am pretty sure he knows who I am. And I've be told this couple enhance each other but I clearly see those smiles. He removed a meningioma from my brain and saved my life. May 4th 2023. I am so grateful and blessed to have his skills performed on me. Apparently she keep him happy and that always make life more pleasant. Thank you both for what you do. I am a living testimony that you deserve all God has for you. Again Thank you Mr. Dr. Rutkowski T. Shuler the veteran will never forget you. Peace, love and happiness to you two oops you 3 for ever.

[@jessicatorres8439]

I just wish they have a KZbin channel ❤️ love how genuine there answers are.

[@Simon-xi8tb]

No. They don't need YT channel! They give all their time to help people in the hospital, so they don't have time plus they ACTUALLY help people!

[@liv0003]

the neurosurgeon husband actually has a KZbin channel. Check it out if you are interested in neurosurgery👍

[@Starshoot555]

Awh as an aspiring neurologist this was so reassuring and inspiring to watch!

[@steph.91]

They are definitely an inspiration and goals! P.S. I love the way Dr. Elizabeth Rutkowski looks at Dr. Martin Rutkowski during the whole interview

[@tyranitar898]

just wanted to say how interesting this was. I'm not even studying medicine. just love the content !

[@tasnimchowdhury333]

I gave like just seeing the title..its really amazing seeing this "Neuro Couple " ❤️

[@survivalofthebitches971]

This really makes me look happy in my future

[@ayeshakhilji2831]

This made my dayyy!!! Thank you so much!

[@jaibirsinghbatth3804]

I like this format more than the one with 73 questions.

[@rachaeli5741]

This is so incredibly inspiring and insightful. Thank you!!

[@RenaBon]

Admirable couple !

[@amirareads6517]

The last point is very important. thank you!

[@anjukc8369]

Awww they are so cute thank you for doing this!!

[@yannychiou282]

fantastic content! thank you guys so much! i love it :)) this is what I needed as I'm planning to pursue a career in medicine! :)

[@annamhussain7580]

This was soo good to watch. I would have given more than one like if it was possible.

[@improv2736]

You should interview neurosurgery resident Myron Rolle (former NFL player and Rhodes Scholar) at MGH. His wife is also a doctor.

[@pat1998]

Truly enjoyed listening to you ❤️

[@simahakimi4942]

You guys are great interviewers! Aweosme podcast

[@amandahalee]

This video made my day!!!!!

[@Oracle842]

🦋 Thank you for sharing your podcasts. 🦋

[@fredericjohnson1783]

this was a great interview. you're very good at what you do

[@EmyIbifik]

My 3rd time of watching this. I love this couple especially the Neurologist (sounds very smart )

[@wakoyel]

I figured they were a couple/married from their indiv interviews. have always wished to see them both in 1vid too... so this is really amazing, and they are amazing! thx for doing this for real 😍 I always wanted to spec. in neuro when i was in med school before... and tho i have stopped med on my 3rd yr and havent gotten back since for years now, i know i still have that lil thing bout it left inside. and this is making me very happy ☺

[@maureenkathleen1804]

Can you do an interview with the dental specialties: orthodontist, periodontist, prosthodontics, etc

[@alberta9918]

Iam so thankful I had my baby at 19 now I can do what ever

[@richardh995]

I have been waiting for this

[@elizabethorozco6872]

I loveeeee her energy

[@laurengorelova3365]

wow what a incredible power couple🔥. I’m in nursing school myself, but I love watching all your videos 😄

[@davidlakhter]

great podcast!

[@ramondelacruz3190]

I'm actually interested in Immunology and in the field Infectious Diseases. Why not try to interview those doctors who specialize in these fields? Because of COVID-19 I've become interested in these fields. Btw, I really like that couple you just interviewed. It must be really nice to marry someone when you're both doctor and when you're both specializing in the same field of medicine. I really think they are a perfect match since they're both in the same field.

[@studytoreachsuccess]

This is so inspiring, informative and marvelous. I want to be a Neurosurgeon too ^^

[@emeksb4823]

Wow amazing interview!

[@greninjafw]

Amazing video