A Mistake In Plain Sight | The Crash Of Independent Air Flight 1851

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Mini Air Crash Investigation

Mini Air Crash Investigation

3 жыл бұрын

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This is the story of independent air flight 1851. On the on the 8th of february 1989, an independent air 707 was flying from bergamo italy to the puna cana airport in the dominican republic with a stopover at the santa maria airport in the azores. Independent air was a charter airline that was operational from 1966 to 1990. And as you would expect todays flight was a charter flight as well. On the ground at bergamo, the crew worked out how much fuel they'd need for the flight to the dominican republic. They fueled the plane up with 30,000 kilos or 68000 pounds of fuel for the flight, that gave them enough fuel to fly there, divert and hold over airports should they need to do all those things. The plane departed bergamo at 10 am UTC, 2 hours behind schedule as the previous flight was a bit late. At this rate theyd arrive in santa maria at 2:05 pm UTC.
At 1:44 pm flight 1851 requested for a metar for santa maria airport. A metar is a way of reporting meteorological data, Its stands for Meteorological Terminal Aviation Routine Weather Report and it gives you all the data you need to know about the weather at and around the airport in question. Wind speeds, cloud layers that sort of stuff. As per the metar the crew calibrated their altimeters to the QNH value of 1019. The QNH value is used to calculate the altitude of the plane above sea level, theres another value called QFE and that is used to calculate the altitude of the plane above the ground. The QNH and QFE values depend upon where youre flying into and you have to use the values that ATC or the ATIS gives you.
Two minutes later with the plane still in contact with the Santa maria area control the plane was allowed to descend to 4000 feet. At 1:56 pm, the plane passed the echo waypoint, the plane transferred to the tower frequency on 118.1. The tower cleared them in “Independent air 1851, roger reclear to 3000 feet on QNH 1027 and runway will be one niner, expect ILS approach runway one niner report reaching 3000”. The tower had cleared them to 3000 feet. The copilot responded with reclear to 2000 feet and uh 1027, someone else in the cockpit pointed the copilots mistake out, make it 3000 they said. they were cleared to 3000 feet and not 2000. The pilots set the altitude alert system to 2000 feet, the altitude alert system would warn them if they deviated from the set altitude by a significant margin, in most cases it would trigger if the plane was 300 feet below or 900 feet above the selected altitude.
The crew then turned their attention towards the landing preliminary checklist. They ticked off items on the checklist. The copilot told the captain that he was going to tune the ILS, the copilot continued “after 2000 feet well get below these clouds” the captain replied with “in case we dont, 187 is the outbound” referring to the heading that they had to fly incase they didnt sight the runway. At 2:08 and 5 seconds UTC, the GPWS system sounded in the cockpit, it blared for 7 seconds there was no comment or reaction from the crew. People near the parish of santa barbra saw the plane low over their town and it was flying much lower than what other airpalnes flew, it was headed straight for the Pico Alto mountain, the plane disappeared into the clouds, the witnesses on the ground couldn't see the plane anymore,

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@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 3 жыл бұрын
Correction at 0:21 I meant to say 1966 and not 1996
@XalphYT
@XalphYT 3 жыл бұрын
I thought you lived the timeline in reverse.
@t.lacey17
@t.lacey17 3 жыл бұрын
I was so confused. Was thinking, "How the hell was it running from 1996 to 1990?". You broke me
@itainelken
@itainelken 3 жыл бұрын
Pin this comment so it is at the top
@janipt
@janipt 3 жыл бұрын
Mortal, I forgive you
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 3 жыл бұрын
@@janipt Thank you oh wise one
@josephwood4160
@josephwood4160 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Santa Maria and I regularly go to Pico Alto where the plane crashed. Always gives me the chills to put feet where so many people died. Lots of people on the island still remember the crash and lots of locals helped in the rescue efforts. It was horrible. May the soul of those who perished rest in Peace
@questionablebackyardmeows
@questionablebackyardmeows 3 жыл бұрын
I actually like your episodes because they focus on the investigation itself and the reasons for the accident rather than on the drama of it...
@greggstrasser5791
@greggstrasser5791 2 жыл бұрын
“Maria Elizabeth Maskface was a 23 year old mother of five who worked in a mall. She was flying home to see her mother for Christmas...”
@questionablebackyardmeows
@questionablebackyardmeows 2 жыл бұрын
@@greggstrasser5791 go troll somewhere else. We don't want this crap here
@greggstrasser5791
@greggstrasser5791 2 жыл бұрын
@@questionablebackyardmeows OK, Commie.
@questionablebackyardmeows
@questionablebackyardmeows 2 жыл бұрын
@@greggstrasser5791 Fine, I'll play with you. YES, I am a commie. Card carrying fucking Marxist-Leninist-Titoist. And as such, I can tell you right now that the US government and mainstream is centre-right and is as far away from actual Communism or even Marxist ideals as the earth is from Alpha Centauri.
@questionablebackyardmeows
@questionablebackyardmeows 2 жыл бұрын
@@greggstrasser5791 If the US response to covid was actual authoritarian Communist (there are libertarian Communists too, bet you haven't even realized those exist, this would not apply to them) you would be in a gulag or on your way to one for willingly spreading a biological agent in defiance of known valid control measures for it. Masks and vaccines would not only be mandatory and enforced *everywhere* but brought directly to you. Choosing to remain unmasked or unvaccinated without an actual medical reason wouldn't just be the d*ck move that lets you rant at some poor costco employee it is here, but seen as a crime threatening the lives of others.
@justabigbaby
@justabigbaby 3 жыл бұрын
Can't get better most significant info in a quick, simple and intelligible manner. Job well done.
@mauricedavis8261
@mauricedavis8261 3 жыл бұрын
I second, job well done!!!👍😎
@thoralexander9387
@thoralexander9387 3 жыл бұрын
I am positively in love with the background footage today. Excellent choice, and another fantastic video of an incident I didn't know about.
@coca-colayes1958
@coca-colayes1958 3 жыл бұрын
That was awesome , I really like the way you repeat the words of the “controllers” I’m really noticing it in your videos now you sound perfessional now , Thanks for a great video
@terriecotham1567
@terriecotham1567 3 жыл бұрын
Always read back all information this way it's possible for ATC to check you understandings of the information
@juliusnepos6013
@juliusnepos6013 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was always interested in this incident to be included in the aci series
@kindnessisking5500
@kindnessisking5500 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say thank you for all these great videos!! I like these investigations as to what occurred!! So much info!!
@kdfrkdfr
@kdfrkdfr 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate all of your videos. They are well presented and informative.
@ExperimentIV
@ExperimentIV 3 жыл бұрын
great video per usual! your narration is getting a lot better with the more experience you put in (not that you were bad before, but everyone improves on something they’re already decent when they get in the practice!)
@ExperimentIV
@ExperimentIV 3 жыл бұрын
decent at*. apparently i can’t type
@Milesco
@Milesco 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExperimentIV You can edit your comments by clicking or tapping the three dots to the right of your comment. 🙂
@karend1577
@karend1577 2 жыл бұрын
I use my Kindle to watch KZbin. Unfortunately when I need to make an adjustment, it only gives me 2 options, EDIT is Not one of it. I would copy my comments, Delete it, then paste it & make the adjustment before finalizing. It's just so much easier to add another comment with the correction.
@vm6824
@vm6824 Жыл бұрын
Terrible narrator! Are you serious???
@Swoost
@Swoost 3 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel it is exactly what I needed. I actually like how I can just listen to it without absolutely needing to watch the video for info while at work
@sarahalbers5555
@sarahalbers5555 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video in all' aspects. Bonus blast from the past!
@Isabel-vj7tl
@Isabel-vj7tl 2 жыл бұрын
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@gregord556
@gregord556 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome and informative video, as always
@Bobsunfire
@Bobsunfire 3 жыл бұрын
Super video! Thank you.
@senilyDeluxe
@senilyDeluxe 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't react to GPWS? Which part of "Pull up, Terrain!" didn't they understand!?
@seeingeyegod
@seeingeyegod 3 жыл бұрын
did you watch the video?
@coachtim6188
@coachtim6188 3 жыл бұрын
@@seeingeyegod Apparently not.
@coachtim6188
@coachtim6188 3 жыл бұрын
Here I'll help you out. 7:20 begins the explanation of why they didn't. Right after where he says "which explains why they didn't react to the GPWS system."
@senilyDeluxe
@senilyDeluxe 3 жыл бұрын
OK I totally got that (I watched the video twice, even before your comment), but if I was flying a plane. Through a cloud. At low altitude near an airport I haven't been to too often. And my plane starts saying "Pull up, Terrain!", I would certainly not ignore it. (insert dramatic pause for each period I put in previous text) (how much more clear should airlines make the GPWS announcement? "Hey F#*kface you're about to crash the plane if you don't pull that stupid yoke in front of you towards you have I made myself clear dammit?") Sum Ting Wong Wi Tu Lo Ho Lee Fuk Bang Ding Ow.
@gloriaruth573
@gloriaruth573 3 жыл бұрын
More videos please!!! I absolutely love Mini Air Crash Investigation. It covers flights that I was unfamiliar with, flights that I’ve always wanted information on and answers questions on crashes that I am familiar with. Than you!!
@jamiemartin274
@jamiemartin274 3 жыл бұрын
My most favourite KZbinr channel.
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 3 жыл бұрын
I am flattered 🥳🥳
@walhalladome5227
@walhalladome5227 3 жыл бұрын
Nice these pictures of the famous 707's.
@jasontwynn7356
@jasontwynn7356 3 жыл бұрын
Good video,nice and clear. Easy to understand and fallow . Keep it up.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Learning alot form your channel. Aviation is so interesting!
@RedOctober_
@RedOctober_ 3 жыл бұрын
You have gained 10k subs in just 1 month very impressive!!!
@Leroys_Stuff
@Leroys_Stuff 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video thank you
@Truths_Sayer
@Truths_Sayer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the great video.
@Isabel-vj7tl
@Isabel-vj7tl 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZa0nKebnbxrmbc
@gaxnn
@gaxnn 3 жыл бұрын
A bit nit-picky, but QFE is the pressure that gives you height above the airfield, not height above the ground.
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Xenotypal
@Xenotypal 3 жыл бұрын
you and allec joshua ibay are the best aviation channels for sure.
@coca-colayes1958
@coca-colayes1958 3 жыл бұрын
Yes when it was you tube notification I was hoping it’s mini air crash , I wite this while the adds on
@chathurasandakelum7641
@chathurasandakelum7641 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched all your videos in 3 days and I can't be happier about the new video. I love these more than the ACI. On point. Keep up the good work.
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@conipilote1634
@conipilote1634 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@jacktumbouniversal2149
@jacktumbouniversal2149 3 жыл бұрын
we love this .. keep it going ...
@c.hanley1423
@c.hanley1423 3 жыл бұрын
Very thorough.
@alphalunamare
@alphalunamare 3 жыл бұрын
Essentially, the crew did not manage the '2000 or 3000' information. The necessary 'team work' was sadly lacking.
@MSA3568
@MSA3568 2 жыл бұрын
And there were 3 cockpit crew!
@davemould4638
@davemould4638 2 жыл бұрын
Not all the cockpit crew are necessarily paying close attention to what ATC is saying. It's not uncommon to get mixed up with numbers in a foreign language - I once ordered 30 beers in a Brazilian bar instead of 3 beers. Fortunately we still managed to drink them. ATC should have picked up on the mistake in the readback, so it was a double mistake.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 Жыл бұрын
@@MSA3568 3 untrained people in the cockpit
@mickdunne981
@mickdunne981 3 жыл бұрын
Hi im new i hit the bell and liked the video.Greetings from Ireland nice to meet you.So sad rip to all that was on board
@mickdunne981
@mickdunne981 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing👍
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 3 жыл бұрын
Around 1990, a An airplane, I believe from Columbia, literally ran itself out of gas over Long Island New York. I remember this as I didn't live very far from it. Maybe you could look into that one? This was approximately 1989
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I find fuel starvation cases intriguing
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 3 жыл бұрын
Mini Air Crash Investigation as I recall, and this was a long time ago, the pilots failed to declare an emergency when they knew they were running out of fuel. So they weren't given an emergency clearance. So they ran out of gas. I believe the plane crashed into a residential area. Or near one, I don't recall anybody on the ground being killed
@JonathanLit
@JonathanLit 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinbarry71 To me, it is just absolutely crazy that a human being, let alone a pilot, would do such a thing and allow that to happen. To be so socially afraid of "bothering" people that you not only risk and eventually lose your own life, but also those hundreds of innocent lives aboard who probably thought absolutely nothing was out of the ordinary until the cabin went dark and, most scarily of all, completely silent. The only sound they heard was that of the wind against the fuselage until they hit the ground. So eerie.
@juliusnepos6013
@juliusnepos6013 3 жыл бұрын
This was the Aviaca 707 crash but i forgot the flight number
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 3 жыл бұрын
JonathanLit yes, it is definitely crazy, i'm not sure if they didn't say anything at all, but they should have declared a fuel emergency and they didn't
@poggiatlj9819
@poggiatlj9819 3 жыл бұрын
My aunt was asked to take this flight as she was working in a travel agency but refused because she came back from another travel a few days before. That's incredible!
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 3 жыл бұрын
Wow your aunt lucked out
@zvezdannedeljkovic5619
@zvezdannedeljkovic5619 7 ай бұрын
Moja žena u toj nesreći izgubila oca i majku I tetku. Ja sam avio-inzinjer.Bogg da im dušu prosti ❤
@joltinjack
@joltinjack Жыл бұрын
I dated flight attendant Yvette Murray a couple of years before this crash; she and other crew members were laid off during that time. After she was called back up for work, we lost touch, although I would run into her father once in a while in Marietta, GA. I remember watching the CBS Evening News about the crash, but when it was announced on the local news at 11 p.m., they showed a picture of Yvette as one of the victims. I was shocked.
@8bitorgy
@8bitorgy 3 жыл бұрын
So many layers of incompetence
@coachtim6188
@coachtim6188 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is making me rethink flying. Lol Never knew there have been so many crashes.
@HEDGE1011
@HEDGE1011 3 жыл бұрын
But how many uneventful flights have there been in the same time period?
@blakena4907
@blakena4907 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, another happy morning!
@MeganMcIntosh
@MeganMcIntosh 3 жыл бұрын
Been subbed and enjoying your vids for a couple months. I keep wondering where you are from? Keep up the good work man.
@flyingtigerline
@flyingtigerline 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting !!
@geoh7777
@geoh7777 2 жыл бұрын
"... we learn, so that this mistake never happens again." And we all walk off into the sunset.
@Tindometari
@Tindometari 2 жыл бұрын
Looking for new mistakes to make.
@wraynephew6838
@wraynephew6838 Жыл бұрын
I read that the flight crew had multiple 10 hour flights from Italy to Jamaica and Italy to Dominican republic in the days prior to this crash. I wonder how much stress and fatigue played a role in this tragedy.
@antoniomaglione4101
@antoniomaglione4101 3 жыл бұрын
In another international industry sector - which I won't mention here, there is the problem of the proficiency of understanding spoken English. People which understand English - only if spoken by somebody of their same nationality. It was a tragedy, unknown to themselves in first instance. Hope things have improved since 1995...
@hermanbotha9140
@hermanbotha9140 3 жыл бұрын
Awsome videos, really enjoy watching your videos!! Can you make a video about Nationwide flight CE723?
@learnerm3120
@learnerm3120 3 жыл бұрын
It never ceases to amaze me how these litany of mistakes always line up just right to cause a tragic accident. It is conceivable that the crash would still happen even if one or two of these mistakes didn't happen but I guess for dramatic effect, I feel as if just correcting one of them would avert the whole thing.
@thatguyalex2835
@thatguyalex2835 2 жыл бұрын
This litany of mistakes are known as the Swiss Cheese model. Honestly, correcting one of these mistakes would have saved the aircraft.
@davemould4638
@davemould4638 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why the litany of mistakes always lines up perfectly is because you would not hear many of the times that they did *not* line up perfectly (because there was no accident and people do not generally report the mistakes that they got away with - or in some cases did not even realise they had made).
@learnerm3120
@learnerm3120 2 жыл бұрын
@@davemould4638 Good point
@MomentOfReason
@MomentOfReason 3 жыл бұрын
Love the videos, my favorite on is the recent one you did on that near disaster of a space shuttle, STS-27. I remember watching the news when Colombia came apart.. I was salty with NASA until the New Horizons probe sent back images of Pluto; that was pretty epic. What about a video on UTA Flight 772? I saw something about it in an "aviation incidents" type of group I'm in on Facebook.
@barbarachipman9436
@barbarachipman9436 3 жыл бұрын
the wingspan on this plane is something else
@filakyle3663
@filakyle3663 3 жыл бұрын
I like that you focuse on facts and aviation a pilotage and all for aviation enthusiatsic people. I have watched probaly all comercial aviation disasters as a pilot to learn. But i could not take emocional push on audience with all that sad music and crying victims. It was hell to watch. Althow i know it belongs to tragedies. But i was looking to learn and loved watchnig pilotage and comms and investiagion. But on top of that a lot of those comercial series is filled up with constant repating information and scenes. Like made for dumies or i dont know. And most recontruction scenes from cockpit thay made. Was pure hell to watch for someone who knows it is nonsence thay show. So I am realy happy for what YOU do. It is actualy informative and interesting and full of facts. Actualy so much info. I sometimes have to rewatch some parts to chatch everything. I think you can eazily afford longer video and a litle bit slow down your speking. And if i could have one wish. When you show, instrument approaches, airport diagrams, could you please draw a line thay fly or do bit of animation there. To help me chatch what thay do where thay intent to go? Maybe yoy do it and i miss it or cannot figure in time. But anyway i am very happy for you videos. Love it
@filakyle3663
@filakyle3663 3 жыл бұрын
@wargent99 yes, you actually nailed it. Exactly. Thanks.
@tcpratt1660
@tcpratt1660 3 жыл бұрын
Another charter airline flight crash you might cover - LaMia Flight 2933, on 28 November 2016 (for soccer/football fans, they'd know this as the Chapecoense crash).
@smx6544
@smx6544 3 жыл бұрын
Back for another one
@roksho1
@roksho1 3 жыл бұрын
Do any cockpits have speech to text displays? why are we relying solely on voice commands/inputs..seems easy enough to add speech to text on both ends to clarify ATC and pilot exchanges..maybe some day they will add this feature?
@bigfish7493
@bigfish7493 3 жыл бұрын
It is all too repetitive. Lousy voice confirmation of ATC instructions. Maybe now 2020 matters have improved however given the contradictions that we have found to exist between AI systems and "hands-on" piloting, combined with ATC's lack of reconfirming approach instructions; this sets up a crash waiting to happen. Thank you very much again and again. And thanks to the spirit of air crews who don't accept first blush!
@LUOLMO
@LUOLMO 2 жыл бұрын
The crash gonna have a episode on mayday season 23
@ezogno
@ezogno 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it up also from my side ;) (by the way: it's Bèrgamo, not Bergàmo.... I know: this sounds as pleasant as "Leviòsa, not Leviosà".. sorry, bear with me) ;)
@justabigbaby
@justabigbaby 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, you lost me. I'm sure it might be significant though.
@theMoerster
@theMoerster 3 жыл бұрын
@@justabigbaby He's saying the pronunciation is wrong and that the emphasis should be on the first syllable. Then he acknowledges it sounds worse and isn't really that important by comparing it to a line from the first Harry Potter movie.
@ezogno
@ezogno 3 жыл бұрын
@@theMoerster ...glad someone caught the reference ;)
@pulidoggy
@pulidoggy 3 жыл бұрын
Dropped by to point out the same pronunciation issue, just to find out that you beat me by one day 😄 And, for non-italian speakers, I would just add that the wrong accent remark is not as nit-picking as it could seem... We italians use to put a great care in accent placement since in our language an accent shift within the same word (although Bergamo being not the case) can unexpectedly turn present into past tense, first person into third, a noun into a completely different-meaning one and perform a whole lot of other sorceries that keep plaguing us since our first day at school 😉
@pulidoggy
@pulidoggy 3 жыл бұрын
@@theMoerster I know that I'm hair-splitting now, but I think that Enrico's reference to "pleasant as..." has to be read as a self-ironic comment playing not on how the word sounds but rather on the finicky, know-it-all Hermione's attitude in pointing out the correct pronunciation 😉
@wanderlustspirit4607
@wanderlustspirit4607 3 жыл бұрын
Please do Alaska 261.
@hosabelakuartisansfoundati8765
@hosabelakuartisansfoundati8765 3 жыл бұрын
You are really doing a wonderful job explaining, but if u added some background music and used a bit more animation to explain, your videos will boost in views
@johndenver5029
@johndenver5029 3 жыл бұрын
Don't add music, engine noise would be more immersive
@zacktong8105
@zacktong8105 Жыл бұрын
I recall this accident very well since I had been stationed at Lajes Field nearly 20years before and landed on this runway in a DC-8 but don't recall the approach. Why they needed to make a stop at SMA was never explained well as this plane should clearly have had the range to make such a flight from Bergamo to the Dominican Republic unless the takeoff runway was shorter.
@sophiec1528
@sophiec1528 3 жыл бұрын
A mistake in plain sight? More like a mistake in "plane" sight haha
@ivebeenmemed
@ivebeenmemed 3 жыл бұрын
ahahaha
@brianwong7285
@brianwong7285 3 жыл бұрын
Just like how the ACI episode about PSA 182 was called Hiding In Plane Sight for select regions that had the show...
@satyaacharya8451
@satyaacharya8451 3 жыл бұрын
Please do Air India Express Flight 1344 next. It is very similar to Flight 812 of AI Express that you have covered earlier.
@douro20
@douro20 2 жыл бұрын
METAR- METeorological Aerodrome Report
@RainRoseville
@RainRoseville Жыл бұрын
If i was part of the jury i would have asked the prosecutors to do actualy moving stress tests on the failed servo. Do like 10,000 cycles on it and see how many times it failed. It will take time, but this will be the definitive answer to see if the servo is the one that is really at fault or not.
@samlasagna8730
@samlasagna8730 2 жыл бұрын
So this was an American plane and crew, carrying Italian tourists to the Dominican Republic which crashed on an Atlantic island belonging to to Portugal.
@bobcornford3637
@bobcornford3637 3 жыл бұрын
I think these videos would benefit from maps and charts detailing the navaids and locations.
@BrettonFerguson
@BrettonFerguson 3 жыл бұрын
QNH is atmospheric pressure at sea level. This changes constantly depending on temperature and other factors. Why doesn't a modern plane's computers adjust this automatically? With the ground proximity warning system's radar it would know how high it was off the ground, with GPS and stored topography map data it would know what airport it was at and how high the ground was above sea level, couldn't it just adjust the atmospheric pressure automatically?
@mwebb1495
@mwebb1495 3 жыл бұрын
The average reaction time is 5.4 seconds. *This crew did nothing* . Is that a shadow cast by the sun or is that your shade?
@Person01234
@Person01234 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many failsafes in aviation, some of these crashes just sound like the pilots were almost trying to be a statistic.
@jinto1980
@jinto1980 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm 737 Max
@AlessandroGenTLe
@AlessandroGenTLe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, it's Bèrgamo, not Bergàmo. :)
@vsparky6967
@vsparky6967 3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@TheFULLMETALCHEF
@TheFULLMETALCHEF 3 жыл бұрын
ATC should have also noticed the flight’s altitude. That’s what they’re supposed to do.
@johncantwell8216
@johncantwell8216 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the encoding altimeter was not working.
@xonx209
@xonx209 5 ай бұрын
They have no radar
@B737900ER
@B737900ER 3 жыл бұрын
They planned fuel from Bergamo to Santa Maria (not to Punta Cana)
@haiwatigere6202
@haiwatigere6202 3 жыл бұрын
Where is captain wi Tu Lo when we need him
@TCPUDPATM
@TCPUDPATM 3 жыл бұрын
This reads like one of those VFR into IMC stories. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@chadywayan
@chadywayan 3 жыл бұрын
FIRST COMMENT KEEP IT UP!!!
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@vsparky6967
@vsparky6967 3 жыл бұрын
You're fast it says 0 comment even though you are here
@vtwinbuilder3129
@vtwinbuilder3129 3 жыл бұрын
Sparky22 he’s not that fast. You Tube is just extremely slow. Unless it’s loading an ad.
@RedOctober_
@RedOctober_ 3 жыл бұрын
BTW is that actual footage from the landing
@_01waldorandooskichambers01_
@_01waldorandooskichambers01_ Жыл бұрын
Dude, that is physically impossible. You can't start in 1996 & end in 1990. I think you meant 1986
@davidtucker3729
@davidtucker3729 3 жыл бұрын
so whats a 1000' here or there? Apparently 144 lives. Simple mistake, corrected but not acted on and as passengers we never know who is at the controls and what level of training they have. All the FAA restrictions in the world can't help you in a moment where it is all up to the Guy or Gal holding command when a mistake is made. Another fine episode well explained
@xonx209
@xonx209 5 ай бұрын
Any airline that trained its pilots to ignore GPWS should go out of business, like this one did.
@bl1754
@bl1754 2 жыл бұрын
Mitrawr means i love you in airplane
@secularargument
@secularargument 3 жыл бұрын
Pass me another hunk of co-pilot..
@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug
@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug 3 жыл бұрын
@ Mini Air Crash Investigation Feedback: I'd actually prefer if you just left the screen blank, or left a static image of any relevant things like a runway map, and a list of all airlplanes involved etc. on screen rather than using random stock videos of other airplanes. I keep getting distracted by the action on screen instinctively thinking it has some relevance to what you're saying and then I have to rewind because it's just confusing. When you're referencing numbers and codes like flight numbers, runways, beacons etc. it would help a lot if these were also written on screen and stay there while you're talking about it. It's quite hard for me to juggle such abstract information that I only hear without having anything visual reminders (I could never be air traffic controller). If you're worried the videos would be too boring if there's too little actual video; maybe you could show the stock photos in a corner of the screen and leave a "sidebar" nex to it with relevant key facts and maps etc.
@tommytutone2584
@tommytutone2584 Жыл бұрын
It's not all about you dude...
@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug
@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug Жыл бұрын
@@tommytutone2584 wtf? Of course it's not "all about me" (whatever you actually mean by that); this is about accessibility. Having random irrelevant stock photo makes it hard for most people with ADHD to focus,. (And I'm sure it's not very helpful for most people either.) And even if you don't mind it, at the very least it would not hurt the experience for anyone if the stock photo was _relevant_ rather than misleading, would it? which is why I didn't bother talking about my diagnosis; because my advice is more general than just about me. Just like having the option to turn on subtitles or having a wheelchair accessible entrance doesn't hurt anyone but it helps a lot of people. (Or do you also go up to wheelchair users and say "it's not all about you dude" as well?!)
@tommytutone2584
@tommytutone2584 Жыл бұрын
@@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug I watch many of these wonderfully created videos. Instead of watching and enjoying them, there's always a select few of nit-pickers that dissect every tiny detail thats not 100% perfect. Just because it doesn't meet your ocd expectations, it meets others. Your whole lengthy comment was about "I" and "me", and criticism. People aren't perfect and the time required to put these vids together/edit is overwhelming. He does an excellent job! Just watch and enjoy
@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug
@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug Жыл бұрын
@@tommytutone2584 I do enjoy them. It's not nitpicking, it was just suggestions for how to make them better and more accessible. The fact that both you and I enjoy them doesn't mean there isn't possible to improve things.
@Landrew0
@Landrew0 3 жыл бұрын
Please consider cutting down on the distracting stock footage.
@FizzleFX
@FizzleFX 3 жыл бұрын
Made up! We had no auch planes in 1851^^
@AbdiPianoChannel
@AbdiPianoChannel 3 жыл бұрын
The captain acted as the boss of the airplane. No one could over ride the captain's decision.
@davidhull1481
@davidhull1481 2 жыл бұрын
It’s BEAR-gamo, not burr-GAMO.
@PeterNGloor
@PeterNGloor Жыл бұрын
BER-gamo, not Ber-GAHMO
@mjrussell414
@mjrussell414 3 жыл бұрын
Yeahs, I’d say flying into a mountain was not ideal. I’m thinking that even without training, if I were a pilot, I would definitely pay attention to a warning that my plane is in closer proximity than it would be comfortable to the ground. That’s just me though.
@LECLAUDIOUS
@LECLAUDIOUS 3 жыл бұрын
The aircraft was way too independent than the pilot
@joaquinandreijaque5813
@joaquinandreijaque5813 Жыл бұрын
is 1989 not 1996
@just-give-me-a-handle-you
@just-give-me-a-handle-you 3 жыл бұрын
Algorithm boosting comment and I hope you now get more money from my vieuws (KZbin premium)
@sadathghouri8483
@sadathghouri8483 3 жыл бұрын
Please use the actual footage if available. Else, at least alert viewers that it is not an actual footage.
@jacktumbouniversal2149
@jacktumbouniversal2149 3 жыл бұрын
contatct me if u want some advice audiowise .. i could hel u out alot. :)
@gregreilly3438
@gregreilly3438 3 жыл бұрын
The video and narrative do not align. Half way through I gave up. Sorry
@crystalmatthew5649
@crystalmatthew5649 3 жыл бұрын
0:20 1996 to 1990
@sebby324
@sebby324 3 жыл бұрын
He made a correction comment
@lamaatmahmood238
@lamaatmahmood238 3 жыл бұрын
1996 to 1990 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@halojump123
@halojump123 3 жыл бұрын
Twilight zone
@pauljoneses8188
@pauljoneses8188 Ай бұрын
You talk so fast you keep making mistakes! Tells us your excitement makes you lie a lot!
@boli4203
@boli4203 3 жыл бұрын
No idea why a video of random aircraft taxiing and taking off is playing along with the narration. Just put up a static screen so people won't be distracted by low-res video images of planes that have nothing to do with the accident. I finally just stopped the video without listening to the last half.
@stuartlee6622
@stuartlee6622 3 жыл бұрын
Hillary Clinton's incessant cackling distracted the pilots!
@wfmihok
@wfmihok 3 жыл бұрын
Video not related to the story. Wasted my time!
@scsg11
@scsg11 3 жыл бұрын
Independent Air was a charter airline based in the United States, that was operational from 1966 to 1990...Not 1996-1990... muppet..
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