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[@filamcouple_teamalleiah8479]

I saw Nicklaus practice at La Costacnext to Hubert Green. What a contrast. Hubbie was using a driver and hitting a low draw about 230 in the air. Nicklaus was hitting these towering 2 irons almost as far. I should of quit the game then and devoted myself to science/cell biology. But the week before I met Johnny Miller who saw me hitting balls on the range at the course where he and Trevino put on an exhibition. Johnny called to me and said, "you got a great swing keep playing" or words to that effect. Happened in 1974 when I was a freshman at USD, Alcala Park, Torreros. Won 13/14 matches that year and the World Collegiate in 75 at St. Andrews 3rd Div- went downhill after that...yips...chipping yips...then shoulder injury. :( :( :( It's a crazy game. One year your hitting magnificent shots the next year your wondering why God is punishing you.

[@correctimundo]

I really like the way this guy talks. It's fresh and intuitive and it resonates with me. I remember seeing a video with Luke Donald some time ago when he was world No.1 - he said he played with the swing that he turned up with that day and didn't try to fight it. This is excellent insight from a guy that has spent a life-time thinking about the swing and is prepared to bust myths and go against the grain. More of this please!

[@BEBETTERGOLF]

More on the way

[@lagpressure]

@@EaglesXsandOs Don't be so sure.. Brendon is working on ABS stuff and coming along very quickly. Very are very direct and on point. No wasted motions.

[@EaglesXsandOs]

@@lagpressure I hope to be proven wrong

[@julescoleman5438]

@@EaglesXsandOs you likely will be. I was one of the early participants in ABS with John and like him I had been a TGM guy. And later worked a bit with Mac O'Grady who I know John admires as much as I do. The difference between the two is that Mac is an insane athlete and there are a number of things he can do on a golf course and with a golf club and ball (other than putt) that people he teaches simply cannot physically do to the level he can. Tha's true of me and I was a pretty good athlete in multi sports, but nothing like Mac. John is physically fit and strong, but when you work with him (and/or Bradley Hughes-- when I worked with John the two were together more or less), you play well and strike the ball well (if you practice enough and on the right things) because his stuff works -- and not just for great athletes or those who can hit a million balls. It's over a decade since I worked with John and aside from a few periods when I abandoned his teachings in effort to hit the ball farther as I was getting older (I'm basically Mac's age), I have continued doing the first three drills both he and Bradley teach. Richie Hunt was also one of the first members of ABS post his time with TGM hitting a la Lynn Blake style -- i think Richie worked with a guy from Georgia named Fort. Richie and I both worked with MORAD as well, but if you follow John or Brad and especially the first three drills with proper guidance, you will become a fine ball striker. If I have any doubts about whether Brendon will succeed, it is because Brendon is impatient and has taken about 400 different lessons from different ideas. If he succeeds, it will be because in part John has gotten Brendon out of a fatal flaw in his swing that I have written to him about in comments several times: namely his natural transition move is basically the opposite of the slotting technique that John advocates. Brendon's upper body/shoulder move throws his club along the target line way way too early in the downswing. And I would tell anyone who wants to work with John or Brad that the only fear you have to overcome (and it is a real one given how much bad publicity surrounds the idea) is the fear of having what will strike you as a wide open club face in the downswing. It's wide open only in reference to the 'plane' but it is perfectly square in relationship to the forearms. Getting your head around that is psychologically the only barrier to playing great golf (or better, striking the ball well and with energy). To be honest, the golf swing on tour that looks and sounds most like what John and Brad teach is the current version of Matthew Fitzpatrick's swing. The ball is hit with authority and the shaft does not tip out prematurely. There are other things you will have to get your head around as well -- including hitting with the true loft of the club as opposed to the extent of shaft lean that is now a commonplace. But this difference is best explained by changes not just in lofts, but more importantly in the weighting distribution of modern clubheads. Eric, if I were you, I would resist commenting and making predictions, and give ABS a try.

[@EaglesXsandOs]

@@julescoleman5438 So only 1 player on Tour has a swing that resembles his teachings? Every single great ballstriker gets the face pretty square or closed early in downswing.

[@mattb5370]

Dude is like 58 and moves like he’s 28. Great lessons. Lots of what he says I have felt as I try to swing vs strike. Going to make an effort to think about this on the range this week.

[@lagpressure]

Just watch my weight, stay flexible, special drink before bed each night, run 5 fifty yard dashes weekly. Kayak fishing, avoid negativity.

[@mattb5370]

@@lagpressure wow thanks John. I take these words to heart. Any elaboration on the special drink?

[@mapes0576]

Definitely looking forward to more videos with him, loving this.

[@theskillanalyst]

John's a good guy and that's awesome you pulled him out of hiding. The ABS forums have always been an untapped treasure trove of information with him and Bradley Hughes.

[@kirkclements4893]

I always loved Lag's concept of learn to hit it flush and then learn to aim flush

[@lagpressure]

It's a very real life concept that can help so many golfers...

[@lagpressure]

Knudson said it best.. each golfer has their own unique alignment..

[@samanthagames1023]

Your channel is absolutely unique and I love it. Over the years you've explored so many different ways of hitting the ball and introduced us to many talented individuals. It's fascinating to learn about the different teaching methods. Unfortunately I'm too lazy to film my swing so whenever I try to put these ideas into practice the results tend to be horrendous. 😜

[@steveperry1344]

i really enjoy a good golf discussion like this. i wish i would do more preshot visualization because when i do i seem to have a better shot.

[@industrialpalletworx3548]

I want to see the ball picker run after ya'll get done beating balls. I find John's concepts very interesting and a very different view point to accomplishing the same thing. The concept mentioned in an earlier video about the 90* angle to the spine. I find this very fascinating and it makes a ton of sense. I like the concept of hook in and cut out. Pure power in that concept. I can't wait for more.

[@Michael_MJ]

Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing.

[@ToddSchultzNC]

Man...you can really see John's left shoulder speed up through the hitting zone on those down-the-line shots. Impressive.

[@lagpressure]

Hogan was the best at that.. we can move in that direction the best we can. Most important aspect of the golf swing as far as I am concerned...

[@thomasfraser9072]

John’s “Post impact intention”. He said whenever he intends to do a draw and he happens to aim his body left of the target he pulls the club back more ( perhaps with his trail trigger finger as I do) and does a fade instead. Observe/Adapt/Play. Makes sense to me. Cheers ⛳️👍❤️😃🥂

[@johnmeade9521]

Search you tube for “Ben Hogan Sequence” from All things Ben Hogan. You will see Mr Hogan’s post impact result of the right hand pushing the shaft left and up while clearly minimizing face rotation. He knew that if he could deliver increasing speed and shaft pressure so no face rotation or flipping is necessary. The second to last still poses Mr Hogan in what is the holy grail result of his technique. The face is still square or nearly square to his upward exit plane.

[@golfdoc1950]

Interesting guy. Speaks more to the advanced golfer than the novice with his intuitive approach. The beginner golfer is not consistent and hits it all over the place. A good shot results from several errors cancelling each other out. A repeating swing is needed, hence the emphasis on set up, grip, alignment, picking a target. Once the golfer arrives there he can move into the advanced stage of shot shaping.

[@tomnelson8515]

This is so cool!

[@exitar1]

I think Jack Nicklaus hit the best one iron ever.

[@mrkipling3841]

Damn. I thought this was the lesson. You tease, B. Great video, very interesting.

[@tonybarber420]

I like seeing the mat move showing how the pressure is being applied and transferred. Oddly that helps with something in my mind🤷‍♂️

[@lagpressure]

Those who know.... right! Have to know what you are looking at! shhhhhhh

[@Rogcljon]

Glad to know i had a similar correct thought about a second after my first thought of that mat slips around a lot then 🤔💡

[@lagpressure]

@@Rogcljon For those who know... it's one of those hidden things most would not see.. ABSers would know..

[@7777mantle]

John’s mobility at 58 is extremely impressive and the ability to hit 1 irons off a deck ( tight lie) show his ball striking capabilities . His playing credentials are legit as well based on both his amateur and pro career successes. I did online modules with Brad Hughes that he developed with John back in 2011 and the content was top notch. It was not a 45 minute / 1 hour lesson. It was a series of drills he sent one module at a time. I then video myself doing the drills and sent to Brad for review. I did not move on to next mod until I could perform current module. Lots of interaction/ emails from Brad who provided great feedback and encouragement. I have not met or worked with John but I’m sure his program is very similar. Anyone questioning the cost of his /BH program does not understand the depth and amount and quality of instruction you are receiving from 2 professionals that have proven themselves on tour and also by the # of students they have helped over the years. Just my 2 cents

[@lagpressure]

Glad you have benefited from ABS. Brad has been a big part of the growth of ABS over the last dozen plus years. You're in good hands with either of us...

[@jedichurn]

@@lagpressure Hi do you have an email? I would like to ask some questions on the classes.

[@7777mantle]

@@lagpressure Hi John, Martin Hall had an episode showing Ben Doyle’s mat one part was showing where the left arm should go on the downswing ( seems to be 4:30 line) Then where the right arm should go on the follow thru. Wanted to get your thoughts on this assume you might have been on this during younger years. After watching this video my impression is how you move your left shoulder may lead to more compression and speed.

[@lagpressure]

@@7777mantle The Golfing Machine did not cover the way I release into the ball. I had to depart for that reason as this is much more reliable, effective and dynamic. Longer, straighter, and draws and fades on call.. even in a 58 year old body off a wood deck and 1 iron. Still some non believers though! lol

[@7777mantle]

@@lagpressure Well your 58 hitting fades and draws with a vintage 1 iron on the deck on camera hard to argue with that thanks for the quick response.

[@BEBETTERGOLF]

Thanks for watching! Thx to John. For coming on.

[@SwingLowLeft]

He’s not swinging on top of that mat. He’s swinging into it. You can tell by the way it moves with each swing. I’m too cheap to do that with my spare golf balls.

[@nedgermany]

Looking forward to your lesson. Lots of anticipation but very little info so far

[@555Trout]

About time people knew about JE.

[@johndonohoe3778]

John your using your hands at impact to work the ball? Sorry I’m a little confused. Like your thinking. The last shot you held against the wind.

[@lagpressure]

Past impact... but there are protocols for doing it. You have to be a hitter or use a hitter's release to take advantage of this more efficient and sophisticated system. Swingers can't do it.. won't work... not compatible.

[@johndonohoe3778]

@@lagpressure thanks

[@EaglesXsandOs]

@@johndonohoe3778 don't let this snake oil salesman who used to be a good golfer ruin your swing

[@johndonohoe3778]

@@EaglesXsandOs I like some of his thinking. However I’m 64 now and have a f pretty good swing. Developed over the years. I’m no athletic specimen so I’ll stick to my quasi Mike Austin and George Knudsen mechanics. Easy on the old body. Lots of snake oil out there for sure. Eric! ✌️

[@lagpressure]

@@EaglesXsandOs $100 a hole.. bring your wallet, checkbook and accountant. See you on the 18th green..

[@Not.Satoshi]

And after the lesson he sends the student to go collect all the balls. 😂

[@notsuretwo]

The best athletes use their instincts and motor skills to find that sweet spot technique. Sure, there is a place for the science of it, but if I had to start over, I would use more feel than science. I think it is a left brain/right brain thing. You approach the sport from a combination of both.

[@steveregotti8542]

Hits the ball really well

[@lagpressure]

I've played one round in the last two years.. now two rounds after playing with Al Barkow the next day. I don't practice or hit balls... just do the ABS Module drills on occasion to keep some muscle tone and spacial awareness. My swing is super simple so I can just focus on shot shape and feeling the shot. I don't allow swing thoughts into my head if I am going to hit a ball. Learned that from Moe Norman. So many things I learned from Moe.

[@adamh7667]

First off thanks for posting huggggggge fan of him. But why is the whole 4:30 idea to get rid of a flip release but John in the first swing looks extremely flipped coming through regardless of shot shape. Face closed body stopes, does what he teach hold merit? Thanks in advance.

[@nicklang9210]

Great way to tear up a nice deck!

[@lagpressure]

Shoes get torn up first.. believe me!

[@drstafford4194]

TA 985, nice. I’ve got a 985 10 iron, wonderful classics.

[@lagpressure]

I don't play the old stuff for nostalgia or anything. The old shafts were thicker and heavier which give so much more feel and add to the support of impact if you are a hitter.. which I am. The heads were heavier so more mass in the head means I don't have to rotate so fast to get the same distance. Just basic physics stuff. Heavy, Flat, Stiff for accuracy. I don't have time for bad golf shots.

[@marcusjohnson488]

One iron off a wooden deck in street shoes?!!! That’s skill.

[@EaglesXsandOs]

that's just a gimmick he uses to seem more credible... he literally explained his way out of having a target, so he could've hit it literally anywhere and said "Okay that's my target" LOL

[@anthonymassaro2394]

@@EaglesXsandOs I’ve personally witnessed John hit the trunk of a tree 220yards out over and over again off that deck surface into the San Fran breeze. He’s likely one of the most accurate strikers alive. He shot 65 in front of my eyes after not playing for an entire year…You should pay him a visit and you’ll change your tune. Such a great guy.

[@anthonymassaro2394]

Hitting a 1 iron from the 50s as solid as John does is no gimmick.

[@golfinnewengland8256]

If anyone was wondering what the difference is between a tour pro and the rest of us, take a one iron out in your backyard and make one swing....

[@lagpressure]

That first swing of the day tells you more than any other swing... more than you might want to know sometimes... glad I didn't top or shank them all!

[@filamcouple_teamalleiah8479]

You have to remember he was a prodigy with a large amt of talent for the game. Most people his age can't bend over to tie their shoes let alone make a decent shoulder turn. Yoga and fasting is essential the older you get so you can remain flexible enough to swing.

[@lagpressure]

I'm 58, and do my best to stay in shape... but I am aware the clock is ticking. I still hit the ball well, but probably better 10 or 20 years ago to be honest.

[@filamcouple_teamalleiah8479]

@@lagpressure Your motion is so Hogan! Appreciate your thoughts and ideas. Like you, I was a prodigy of sorts but had some awful coaching and then suffered a left rotator cuff injury- frozen shoulder for a month or so. Couldn't swing a club without pain for many years and eventually gave up.

[@lookmil107]

@@lagpressure ….. I would very much like to hear more of your thoughts regarding controlling distance through trajectory. John…. I have two sets of the MacGregor TA 985 irons (2-9). The 9-7 irons are identical for both sets, all hosel lengths are equal. One set is the “985” with leather grips, the other set is the “985T” with cord grips. The 8 and 9 irons of the “985T” set are noticeably more compact, the sole is slightly wider and has less camber. I thought you might find that interesting. I also have a set of Tourney TA 945 irons and a set of Tourney TA 925 Stainless irons. I love the vintage clubs too.

[@lagpressure]

@@lookmil107 I play the vintage stuff because they were better clubs than what is coming out now. No offset, heavier heads and shafts, better feel, better grinds. I think the 985 is the best iron set ever made... that's why I play them.. I could play any set I want to.. even modern but I don't. Irons are for accuracy, not distance. I'll take laser straight with good distance control that comes from heavier gear over anything light. Heavier clubs also help you swing the club better and slot it better.

[@davida.4933]

I'm 74 and in at least as good shape. Exercise daily and eat real food and not too much. The vast majority of people today are eating experimental food that didn't exist for most of human history and high carbs....we didn't evolve with such a diet...

[@rbarnard19]

When will you do something with Shawn Clement?

[@benhikingoutdoors1632]

How many golf balls are in this guys backyard?? lol Sorta seems like a waste just hitting them into the woods.

[@lagpressure]

The goats clean out the canyon, then I go pick them up. I don't hit many balls down there.. maybe 100 per year. Just check ball flight on occasion. Once I have the flight I want, I don't need to hit more balls. Done.

[@johnmeade9521]

John E and Bradley H are articulating what most of the great ball strikers were doing with the club to produce consistently straight shots. I can tell you this about shaft pressure..several years ago while preparing for a tournament I focused on nothing but pressuring the shaft before, at and after impact. On the day of the tournament I hit a 5-wood to 1O ft on a par5, a 3wood to 15ft on another hit the flag on a 163 yd par three and experienced heavy hits on most if not all shots including the driver. After the round my playing partners whom I had never played with before asked me if played this way regularly. Of course I sheepishly said no and that I had committed to trying what I previously explained. I finally understood Hogan’s three right hand comment. If you had the mass of three rights hands pushing on the shaft just above it’s flex point the shaft has to remain loaded. Never push down, push forward through impact then keep pushing up and left.

[@lagpressure]

You got it!

[@johnmeade9521]

@@lagpressure I am interested in your thoughts/remarks/feelings on the following things that I have observed and worked on over the years as a professional golfer. 1. A slight feeling of a re-grip or rocking of the handle in the lead side hand to feel the transition to the forward swing. (see videos of Bobby Jones, Hogan, Hale Irwin, Snead, Nicklaus, others) Where the handle butt is no longer in contact with the "meaty" side of the palm (pinky side) but rocks into the fingers and then back into the palm. I find this action actually allows the handle and shaft to realign with lead side forearm and starts the natural momentum to supination and plamar flexion of the lead wrist (as Mr. Hogan adeptly demonstrates). Not to mention delay the opening up of the torso until later. 2. Where in downswing is the pivot initiated? 3. Have you experimented with the "feeling" of the arm club structure "being/feeling" extremely heavy and feeling that weight/pressure against the upper chest at address; and then swing the structure as it were super heavy (sledge hammer heavy). This slows the transition, delays the torso rotation, allowing the heavy arms/club to fall to the 4:30 path on the way to the bottom (impact) then a powerful pivot and torso turn to the left stabilizes the "sledge' as you throw the heavy structure left and around; right arm straightens to catch the sledge at its apex. We can see Hogan do this in every swing post 1930's. This heavy club feeling can be used to visualize the clockwise rotation of the lead arm in transition then a necessary counterclockwise rotation of the lead arm down through impact; (supination, plamar flexion, and right elbow bent). Love to hear your thoughts. Keep up the work and exploration of this science and art form we love.

[@ulster7717]

Would like to have heard why he has his club lie angles are set 5o flatter than standard.

[@johnmeade9521]

Me too!! Please have John E. explain it in detail as to why the flat lie angle is preferred and how it promotes good striking and desired ball flight. Please!!

[@danielspaven5394]

Having had a lesson with John before. I'm pretty sure John would say it encourages a shallow plane but is also anti left. John hates long left of the green.

[@lagpressure]

@@johnmeade9521 Brendon shot content where I explained all this with the T Square about flat lie angles and the huge advantage of it most golfers don't consider. Reminds me to put up a video on the topic for the general golf public. The ABS students all know the reasons why. Very good and supported by players like Hogan, Gary Player and many others.

[@555Trout]

Because rotation in the shaft plane doesn't affect direction as much. Flatter is straighter. "Standard" lie angles of today are a catastrophic unmitigated disaster.

[@kirkclements4893]

less than perfect contact can cause the shaft to twist a bit - flatter lies will have the twist affect the loft more while up-right lies will affect the face turning left or right more - better results with changes in loft being dominant rather than spraying left or right being dominant

[@macdaddyblues1]

If Moe Norman would have practiced this way, would there have been 13 pyramids of balls down range stacked about 40 ft high?

[@rm00k]

"Its all done post impact". Really? You can shape shots after impact? That's truly magical because physics says that putting curve on a golf ball can only come from either an open or closed club face relative to the club path at impact. Something has to change prior to impact to change the shape if the shot. Either the path or the face angle has to change prior to impact.

[@kirkclements4893]

It's the intention to finish for a draw or fade that affects the club face ahead of impact to create the intended flight - no magic - just physics

[@rm00k]

@@kirkclements4893 but that's not what he's saying. He doesn't change anything prior to impact, he says, only post impact. Which doesn't make any sense to me. What your club is doing post impact is a result of something done prior to impact. Be it a change in either setup, back swing or down swing. Hopefully he'll make this clearer in a future video.

[@johnmeade9521]

Jesus…it’s really quite easy to understand. You are shaping the shot with the direction of force and with the application of the force in a direction that allows the face angle to shape the shot. You cannot hit pure shots by focusing on face angle prior to or at impact. Apply the force through the shaft and through and past impact is what Hogan, Snead and all the greats did. I’ve proved this to myself in thousands of trials. The hard part is to repeat the process shot to shot, round to round and let it be after you have mastered it.

[@MichaelShinosky]

@@rm00k Obviously something is different in the DS pre impqct. But what John is expressing is the feel is post impact. So nothing changes in your feel pre impact. The delivery will always feel the same. If you want to hit a hold off fade - you wouldn't hold off prior to impact. You told off after impact. Everything happens after impact. Post impact intentions.

[@lagpressure]

@@kirkclements4893 These science absolutists also think that there is no way the ball can be affected by the muscular activity of the body beyond lowpoint. Kind of like flat earthers who insist the world is flat because it's clearly backed by scientific evidence.

[@AmericanPatriot014]

Okay so John lasted 6 years on the Tour from....so I do not "taint" the fact from Wiki. From 1987 to 1993. John Erickson (born January 5, 1964) is an American professional golfer who played the Canadian Tour from 1987 to 1994 and the PGA Tour of Australasia Tour from 1987 to 1992. And Retirement In 1993 Erickson retired from competition Survived a whole 6 years. Good for you Johnny!!

[@johnmeade9521]

And your effing point is?

[@AmericanPatriot014]

@@johnmeade9521 It should be obvious. All professional golfers ALWAYS take a divot. Just watch TV or tape or KZbin videos etc. It is pretty self evident. You want to catch the ball on the 3rd or 4th groove from the bottom of the leading edge of an iron. Just how you gonna do that hitting off of wood. DUH.

[@albertjohnson5338]

It is all done post-impact.........mmmmm!

[@lagpressure]

Yes, correct, it's all done post impact. Bradley even demonstrated this by having someone call out the shape while he already started his downswing. Bradley knows this stuff.

[@ericzimmerman7775]

The problem is in the editing…. First of all - you have to decipher that the order of play is related to the time since posting of the video. How about “part 1”, “part 2” , “part3” etc in the titles. In fact - I assume there were four videos - but there may have been more. Editing? Had to watch 60 minutes of video for 6 minutes of swing content…. Ok - John spends a good bit of time talking the “art” of his swing…. Well - edit that as a different video with that title. John is a pro - video editor needs to hand off the raw feed to someone more capable…. Did I learn anything? Well, for one thing it makes me more comfortable with my shorter backswing that I have moved to. And I will play around with the hand/forearm move in conjunction with the shoulder move. What was the ABSOLUTE gem in the 3 videos? John explains that the shaft lean/bend at impact helps hold the club face more steady through impact! THAT is something to experiment with…

[@mrkipling3841]

Jeez, wheres the lesson video??? 🙏🙏🙏

[@dobuto23]

Why the 6 degree flat club? You said it was very important but you got distracted by the BBG ADHD and did not talk about it. Lee Comeaux also used a 5 or 7 degree flat club but I have not heard why. Anyone in comment section know why?

[@ocat1979]

Because it promotes a shallow entry into the ball. The flatter your lie angles are, the less face rotation will effect horizontal dispersion and turn into vertical dispersion (high and low shots). Hit a driver while on your knees, if you twist the shaft open or closed you will see the face point up or down instead of left and right. That’s a basic example of why flatter lie angles are easier to hit straight

[@Tigersmundo]

*Give me back **12:03** of my life.*

[@lagpressure]

Why do you even watch these? Stop wasting your life.. or come down here and play me for $100 a hole. Bring your wallet, checkbook and your accountant.

[@GregRutledge71]

@@lagpressure 12:03? he probably needs to redo about 40 years and a hug from his mom.

[@yooper9062]

Let's see you hit a one iron off of an effing deck.

[@justincase7524]

“I don’t even use yardages”

[@bernddreilich7100]

😂 There must be lying millions of Golfballs in that Backyard. Doesn’t the neighborhood get upset?!?

[@jmack619]

pretty sure the dispersion targert is about the size of a hoola hoop. pick them ALL up in less than 5 minutes !

[@nunyo7259]

This guy is prob a sweeheart but has said absolutely nothing so far.

[@godsdozer]

Yep, but before I am too critical, I want to see him give Brandon a lesson.

[@nunyo7259]

@@godsdozer Lol yeah true thats why I said so far, im sure hes got some good stuff im just waiting on it.

[@dukeperrin3985]

@@nunyo7259 Absolutely he has said nothing. Look at the title, this was intended to be a video centered on a swing method, not a bunch of what he is thinking about. ridiculous!

[@nunyo7259]

@@dukeperrin3985 Now that i think about it, its not totally his fault I mean Brandon did edit the video lol!

[@tomchester3867]

Click the link below...then everyone gets paid 😉

[@susanhood3346]

I hope he doesnt just leave those golf balls out in the canyon

[@marknikaj1308]

He forgot to mention why having the lie angle 6 degrees flat was important to his swing method?!?!

[@ngascoigne]

Flatter clubs fly straighter.. Easiest way to visualise this is to take your putter. With the shaft vertical open and close the face and see how this affects the clubface - left or right. Now hold the shaft horizontally and see how opening or closing affects the clubface up of down.

[@ngascoigne]

Or use a tennis racket to visualise, even better.

[@natgolfpro1]

So who retrieves all the balls in the snake infested canyon?

[@Markomihailovic1]

Never explained why his club is 6 degrees flat. Would love to know why ?

[@EaglesXsandOs]

Because hitting 1-iron off his deck is a gimmick to impress people and you need a flat club for that

[@dollafiddy2040]

Bent the club 6 degrees flat? Dear lord.

[@lagpressure]

You're missing out for sure. Think it through a little bit.. you should be able to figure it out.

[@billenright2788]

i'm guessing he never looks for balls

[@bklounge_golf]

People actually pay this guy for golf advice?

[@teddythodo3302]

His golf videos cost $1500 lol

[@ngascoigne]

John has literally hundreds of students all over the world, including tour players on tours all over the world. Bradley Hughes is teaching John's methods to PGA tour winners. What more do you want?

[@bklounge_golf]

@@teddythodo3302 $1500 dollars of trash.

[@ocat1979]

@@ngascoigne they want a quick fix, magic pill that will grant them a golf swing, instead of actually putting in the hard work to build a strong repeatable swing

[@teddythodo3302]

@@ngascoigne affordable golf instruction. Golf shouldn’t be that mysterious and elusive to where it costs $1500+

[@spoonster12]

So is he just filling up that field with balls?

[@justmythought1586]

Guess there must be thousands of balls down there.

[@sbell2334]

Maybe he goes out there every so often with a shag bag and picks them up

[@BEBETTERGOLF]

Yeah. 2 days later a large herd of goats were fenced into that area and ate up all the brush and John collected all his balls

[@justmythought1586]

@@BEBETTERGOLF He must be fit climbing up and down the hillside. But, man, that is just too much work. LOL

[@jmack619]

@@BEBETTERGOLF pretty sure his dispersion is about the size of a hoola hoop. Picks them all up in 5 minutes. NEVER lost a ball !!

[@type64jj]

Always makes me laugh when these people claim they developed a system on how to hit a golf ball.

[@lagpressure]

Laugh away... tour pros using ABS have made millions. How are you doing?

[@type64jj]

doing fine and still laughing especially when people get overly sensitive and spout more BS or is that ABS.

[@ocat1979]

It’s been working for me since 2013. I was one of Brad Hughes’ first students here in Australia. The drill series John and Brad have developed is no joke, this stuff works

[@lagpressure]

@@type64jj No BS here.. but you sound like you are knee deep.

[@stanleywatson6247]

Way too much repetitive blather! Get to the lesson!