A New Jewish Proof for the Resurrection of Jesus

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A New Jewish Proof for the Resurrection of Jesus
Could the hoped-for resurrection of a leading 20th-century rabbi shed light on the resurrection of Jesus?

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@FRN2013
@FRN2013 Ай бұрын
Michael, the saying you quoted at the beginning should be, "You don't die _for what you know is_ a lie." Many people have died for lies that they thought were true. The disciples were willing to die for Jesus because they knew he was alive! *Hallelujah!*
@SoYouAreB
@SoYouAreB Ай бұрын
We worship the living God Jesus Christ. Hallelujah.
@FRN2013
@FRN2013 Ай бұрын
@@SoYouAreB a m e n !
@SoYouAreB
@SoYouAreB Ай бұрын
@@FRN2013
@cygnusustus
@cygnusustus Ай бұрын
Nope. We have no evidence that any of the disciples were willing to die for a lie. We only have stories about this from decades, or centuries, later.
@FRN2013
@FRN2013 Ай бұрын
cyg, you're quite ignorant of the abundance of NT manuscripts from the first century, plus all the other evidence that points to the NT being written while most of the eyewitnesses were around to verify the writings.
@BoldFollower
@BoldFollower Ай бұрын
Good word 🙏🏻
@Bryce-dv6nn
@Bryce-dv6nn Ай бұрын
And when the female followers went to the tomb they didn’t think he rose from the dead until Jesus himself showed up.
@joshuamartin786
@joshuamartin786 Ай бұрын
Great, high quality video!
@TheTorahGuide
@TheTorahGuide Ай бұрын
This is terrific!
@Wendell_Hartlauer
@Wendell_Hartlauer Ай бұрын
Even the adversaries of Jesus declared the tomb in Jerusalem to be "empty." Why and how, that is still being disputed today. To pull off any "hoax" of this magnitude is also not possible because it happened in Jerusalem during the Allyah of the feast of unleavened bread, the most unlikely place to pull of any deceptive or misleading event that requires a physical proof. No magic trick at Passover in Jerusalem. God bless. Very great video. Very professional!
@cygnusustus
@cygnusustus Ай бұрын
Nope. The followers of Jesus claimed the adversaries of Jesus declared the tomb to be empty. There's no evidence there ever was any tomb for Jesus.
@Wendell_Hartlauer
@Wendell_Hartlauer Ай бұрын
@@cygnusustus Exobiblical and historical sources, such as Josephus, Tacitus and many other historical and "non-followers" of Jesus have recorded this fact... "The adversaries of Jesus in Jerusalem verified and pronounce 'An Empty Tomb.'" Tomorrow is Pesach (Passover), why don't you take up this issue when you see Him, the Passover Lamb who was now were to be found in His tomb 2K years ago?!? Why deny to greatest truth... He's not here, He is risen. All sins are forgiven, atonement has been secured.
@cygnusustus
@cygnusustus Ай бұрын
@@Wendell_Hartlauer "Exobiblical and historical sources, such as Josephus, Tacitus and many other historical and "non-followers" of Jesus have recorded this fact" Nope. All they recorded were what early Christian beliefs were. 'Why deny to greatest truth." Why lie to defend your faith?
@conniecooper6140
@conniecooper6140 Ай бұрын
I love this Dr. Brown! Great video quality, graphics, and content. Very relevant for today!
@DevinWardMusic
@DevinWardMusic Ай бұрын
Love the content, Dr. Brown, I wish you would make more short form content like this to share.
@rich5310
@rich5310 Ай бұрын
The real proof is why did Christianity explode after his death even if they didn't experience him directly. So many would not follow a false teaching
@josephoritz777
@josephoritz777 Ай бұрын
So many would not die for a false teaching. Or change there minds as documented in the Bible
@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n
@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n Ай бұрын
Also It was a resurrection religion!
@johnmann8659
@johnmann8659 Ай бұрын
@rich5310 Right. Acts 5:33-40.
@annehunt787
@annehunt787 Ай бұрын
Well @rich5310 Well, millions follow isl@m.
@cygnusustus
@cygnusustus Ай бұрын
It didn't. A hundred years later, virtually nobody knew about it.
@raveenjohn6283
@raveenjohn6283 Ай бұрын
Blessed ✝🤞
@jessicaruth521
@jessicaruth521 Ай бұрын
You need to make a kids show!!! You’re the best dr Michael brown!!!
@repentancenow
@repentancenow Ай бұрын
Nice video
@josephoritz777
@josephoritz777 Ай бұрын
The title sparked my curiosity immediately hahaha
@jagdishmadgaonkar
@jagdishmadgaonkar Ай бұрын
What about Paul's testimony
@cygnusustus
@cygnusustus Ай бұрын
"They report that he was seen by numerous eye witnesses." That's a round-about way of admitting you have no eye witnesses.
@OneStepToday
@OneStepToday Ай бұрын
This was the best video for the resurrection evidence by comparing a solid real case. It makes us puts all things into consideration. We can argue that the disciples wanted to apply resurrection prophecies to their leader, and even lied by stealing his corpse from the tomb, but such tiny deception wouldn't have succeeded for few months let alone changed the world and our lives. The comparison was amazing and perfect.
@cygnusustus
@cygnusustus Ай бұрын
"This was the best video for the resurrection evidence by comparing a solid real case." Uhm....he didn't provide any evidence.
@OneStepToday
@OneStepToday Ай бұрын
@@cygnusustus such reasons are what counts as evidence in the field of historical studies
@cygnusustus
@cygnusustus Ай бұрын
@@OneStepToday Not even close, kid! What evidence did he provide?
@OneStepToday
@OneStepToday Ай бұрын
@@cygnusustus his gave evidence for the integrity of the witnesses, that they are more likely to be trustworthy, not liars. See how historical criteria works, also see criteria for Jesus historicity. Watch William Lane Craig debates on the resurrection.
@cygnusustus
@cygnusustus Ай бұрын
@@OneStepToday "his gave evidence for the integrity of the witnesses" What witnesses? None of the Gospels are eye witness accounts! What was the evidence that the Gospels are credible accounts? Still waiting for that historical criteria, kid!
@vincentargiro2260
@vincentargiro2260 Ай бұрын
I think we should also ask why the leaders had the Roman guards say (under penalty of death any other time), that they fell asleep? I think we should also ask why the Jewish leaders who hated Jesus just didn't drag his dead carcass through the streets and stop the fledgling movement right then and there? I think we should ask why Jesus' brother James, who did not believe Jesus' claims to be the Messiah, became the pastor of the first Christian church in Jerusalem, at a particularly deadly time for Christians when the persecution was ramping up against them? We should further ask why James was thrown off a building and killed as a martyr because he refused to recant that Jesus had risen? I also think we should ask why there are no secular Jewish historian accounts showing this all out to be a hoax, and providing us with the historical accounts of the Jewish and Roman leaders providing Jesus' dead body to the crowds, thereby putting this entire "resurrection" to sleep, once and for all? I think we should also ask why those timid, cowardly disciples went from scared little men, to roaring lions of the Christian faith, willing to die testifying that they had seen the Risen Jesus? I think we should answer those questions as well.
@ApocalypticShowPony
@ApocalypticShowPony Ай бұрын
They chose to die for Jesus primarily because he claimed they would be rewarded if they did so, and punished if they did not.
@adamcowan7018
@adamcowan7018 Ай бұрын
Many muslims have given their lives
@cygnusustus
@cygnusustus Ай бұрын
We don't have a single eye witness account of the resurrection, or even of Jesus. So claiming that eye witnesses were willing to die for it is just a fantasy.
@thetheoreticaltheologian2458
@thetheoreticaltheologian2458 Ай бұрын
So they believe that the Messiah would die and rise from the dead?? Why do they continue to reject Jesus since there is far more evidence that He did rise from the dead then that guy who didn’t even give his followers a time in which he would rise from the dead. Therefore he is a con artist. Jesus did give us a time frame that which we can know for sure rather then wait in uncertainty.
@marcosb5850
@marcosb5850 Ай бұрын
This is not a convincing argument.
@YoelCohen1424
@YoelCohen1424 Ай бұрын
I hear. I hear. But Muslims also claim Muhammad split the moon. Did miracles, had revelations from God etc. Were all of these people delusional? I don't know how much of the New Testament is embellished and how much is historical. We just don't know who preserved the New Testament writings/tradition before the councils of Nicea, Trent etc after the Apostles were martyed. The Pope wears a Zuchetto. This was to convince Christians the Pope recieved all the traditions from Peter and Paul even down to the head covering. Which many believe became the standard head covering for Jews by the rabbis when the Talmud was codified. Let me ask you this: we don't know all of the authors of the NT. Some scholars claim there was 'pious fraud'. The story about the adulterous whom JC saved and said you who is without sin cast the first stone. Is in some older editions of the bible and not others. Hence why JWs omit it from their NWT Bible. If this is true then we can compare thr writings of the NT to Apocrypha such as Enoch. Although attributed to Enoch enough evidence suggests it is original or has changes, not accepted into Cannon etc. There is 150 Psalms according to Orthodox Jews. But check out Psalms 151 or 152. We reject them as not part of the tradition we recieved. How can I discern for myself what is original and what is fake? So if I compare NT to Apocrypha for similar reasons and JC didn't write it...I would have to throw it aside. Is that fair?!
@randycarson9812
@randycarson9812 Ай бұрын
After the New Testament books were written, copies of the autographs were made and dispersed throughout the early Christian communities. Copies of the copies were also made, and we know that Paul encouraged this because he wrote, “And when this letter has been read among you, have it read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and see that you read also the letter from Laodicea.” (Col 4:16) But how do we know that the texts we have today accurately contain what the authors wrote? Did errors creep into the texts? By comparing the oldest surviving manuscripts, subtle textual variations - called copyist’s glosses - can be identified. For example, a copy of Paul’s Letter to the Galatians sent to the church in Ephesus may have differed slightly from the copy sent to Antioch. Each subsequent copy of the Ephesian text would contain those same unique glosses making it distinguishable from copies made from the manuscript in Antioch. In this way, the small, unique textual variations which passed from generation to generation are traceable in each “family tree” of manuscripts. Following these family trees backwards in time, scholars are able to establish with a high degree of certainty that we know exactly what the original authors wrote.
@YoelCohen1424
@YoelCohen1424 Ай бұрын
@randycarson9812 I listened to different scholars such as Bart Erhman. But I am interested to read and learn more. I don't have an agenda. But multiple scholars in the field have claimed the books were not all written by the original authors as claimed. Is there a documentary you would suggest I watch or book to read? Please leave as much material as possible so myself and others can read it.
@randycarson9812
@randycarson9812 Ай бұрын
@@YoelCohen1424 That's an interesting request, and I will give some thought as to where to begin your reading. Yes, I'm familiar with Ehrman and his views. The good news is that he agrees that Jesus was a real person and not a myth. He also accepts many of the facts surrounding the resurrection (eg., that the disciples believed they had seen the risen Jesus), but he draws a different conclusion, of course. Here's one question based upon the principle known as the criterion of embarrassment: If you were going to take an anonymously written document about Jesus and assign a name to it, why would you choose two Gentiles (Mark and Luke) who were not direct eyewitnesses or disciples of Jesus? Wouldn't the names of Peter or James have greater gravitas among the early disciples? (Apocryphal gospels written much later did exactly that, but they are not considered inspired.) Similarly, the fact that the resurrection was first reported by women (whose testimony was worthless in court) is another example of an embarrassing detail. These two examples illustrate that the Early Church didn't try to hide the truth but laid out the facts as they actually occurred. So, although the gospels don't begin, "I, Matthew, wrote this book...", there is no evidence that they were ever attributed to anyone other than the authors we know them by today. The Church handed this information down regardless of whether it strengthened or weakened the books' credibility simply because the attributions were true. Update: You might start here: www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/question-answer/gospel-authorshipwho-cares
@jamilbiotech91
@jamilbiotech91 Ай бұрын
What kind of buffoonery is this? This is a joke right?
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