A New Trapper Trick? Let's See... 🤔 | Dead by Daylight

[@Zfighter117]

The makeshift wrap addon is the only reason I miss old deadhard. Survivors deadhard through the trap then stare at me, only for me to just walk straight through it and slap them. Pure bliss!

[@Yea___]

I love having an active imagination, i can see myself in the same situation and i get a sympathetic dopamine hit! Thanks for sharing

[@akasunanosasori6385]

The "oh shit" reaction must have been priceless!

[@jackw.1342]

Trapper will always be my favorite killer because of the pure adrenaline and dopamine hit I can get when I catch a survivor in a good trap

[@Peanuggie]

I could legit get only 4 hooks but a couple great traps make it worth it trapper life is simple life

[@Trashthekid]

He’s gonna be one of mine because of the pure adrenaline and dopamine hit I get when he swings and gets caught in his own trap.

[@TheReZisTLust]

Imagine the adrenaline when they land in the bad trap placed

[@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard]

@@Trashthekid Imagine the adrenaline when you get when you have 4 survivors hooked in the basement. BASEMENT TRAPPER BAY-BUH!

[@acutenezz]

set bear traps up for real people and chase them around with a machete. that’s real adrenaline and dopamine, talking from personal experience.

[@portalmiles]

I think trapper is one of the most fun killers, outplays as him really make you feel like a genius

[@jrich436]

They REALLY DO Those end game collapses are beautiful and honestly I think it’s one of the killers that when played like that actually gets mostly honest GG at the end I’ve always enjoyed them even when on survivor

[@oscar3153]

He places a trap and the survivor either steps in it because they didn’t see it or they go around it and force an M1. Don’t really see anything satisfying about that

[@bigenemy000]

​@@oscar3153the first scenario is the satisfaction. Knowing you outsmarted someone with an environmental trap

[@oscar3153]

@@bigenemy000 What other options do they have though? It’s either step in the trap or force the M1. Not very satisfying lol

[@bigenemy000]

@@oscar3153 when the M1 is forced its surely not satisfying. Im just saying that when someone ends up in a trap its satisfying

[@ChamplooMusashi]

8:35 the irony in talking about how it's not fun for survivors to not know something followed by an immediate triple adren pop is like the game itself giving approval to the new coup

[@Charlieweddle]

Coup is finally not absolute garbage and in regards to it being 'hidden', it can be called out in a swf the second the killer takes a lunge a few paces too far. It's absolutely fine and is a fine thing for M1 killers to actually have a bone thrown their way

[@MakiHSqt]

exactly i found it annoying when he said it was unfun to go against because its not and i would say fun to see coz not many ppl even use it

[@NamesAji]

Seeing Otz have fun on Trapper is like a fever dream at this point, good shit! ❤

[@JustOnlyHallow]

Remember when he was THE trapper main, crazy times

[@darrenjermyn6725]

Seeing otz play trapper all giddy, like a kid at christmas, makes for a special treat. Another banger as usual king!

[@Sapreme]

"I dont like that survivors don't know whether I have coup or not" Also didnt pick up Leon cuz he might have had DS, and also gets dead harded a few seconds later

[@DetrimenttoSociety]

“Look at this fun new trapper strat!” Proceeds to do nothing but show of Coup for the next ten minutes.

[@TheReZisTLust]

Lmao I think they always just went to another loop

[@mektotv]

The funny thing is that I use this reasoning when I want to help a team mate getting hardcore tunneled to the point that the killer walks past me. The idea is that I stick to the loop extending it artificially for the killer, then I walk away to let my mate squeeze between me and the loop. If a killer is so commited on tunneling someone to ignore you, he won't put 2 and 2 together when you do this trick :D With enough experience you can even "fat shame" killers, but it makes it more obvious tbh

[@thegaspoweredjohnnyjohn3972]

It sucks that this isn’t base kit for trapper, it would make for some seriously awesome mind games and whatnot

[@jrich436]

But where is the mind game involved if it’s base kit Literally EVERY Trapper would do it and it would be expected and done every game unless some add on disabled it…. 😅

[@Helena-me6mp]

bag should definitely be basekit

[@skylyrrschilling1746]

​@@jrich436even so the tactic would work just as well imo, just because it would be a common tactic doesnt mean it has anymore counterplay than it currently does which is the survivors can just w key to make time while the trappers busy placing the trap, making it basekit would only be a NEEDED buff to one of the weakest (and imo one of the more boring) killers in the game, is it really too much to ask to not be sandbagged by your own power?

[@DerrickMayFan]

that would literally not be a mindgame if it’s an uncounterable antiloop strategy

[@skylyrrschilling1746]

@@DerrickMayFan i mean it is already in the game your just forced to bring 1 addon to enable it, now that otz has madee a video bout it any trapper main worth there salt is likely already gunna run the addon but now have the strategy to go along with it, making it basekit would just buff trapper overall and imo thats not a bad thing

[@GoldenDeer_]

In regards to the coup discussion. By that logic both sides should see each others perks before the game so that there is no guessing. The beauty of perk builds is you don’t know what to expect. Like the people that run grim embrace. Can be a really nice slowdown perk. Don’t know they have it usually. Does that make grim embrace problematic? Or deadlock, pain res, or nowhere to hide? What about every exhaustion perk or perks like wglf or buckle up. The argument that not knowing what perk the other side has makes a perk problematic is stupid. I usually like and agree with your opinions and ideas Otz but that one seems a little ridiculous.

[@hatewillneverwin999]

I love that Otz still comes up with a different line for the intro every single time

[@mfield942]

this one is a bloodborne reference, too

[@crowtenchu]

I think you could even optimize this further by placing the traps just a tad further from the edge of the wall/loop. Just enough to make it impossible (or not obvious whether it is possible) to go between the trap and the wall. Then the survivor needs to go a little bit of extra distance around it all :)

[@notOtzdarva]

I already tried to do this a bit, but be careful because if it's too far they'll squeeze through just fine!

[@ЛеонардБолотов]

@@notOtzdarva What are the trap hitboxes? Maybe putting them sideways towards the wall would create a better illusion of safety for survivors? probably not on your level, but its an idea

[@koreyardoin3695]

When watching these videos Otz has those moments where he's explaining things to chat mid chase and then gets expressive with his character in game. Staring at things, walking up to things, swinging at things, and shaking his camera around. During these little moments I have to wonder if the survivors ever notice this and get confused by it. Like you're getting chased by trapper and suddenly he starts walking sideways while nodding up and down then a second or 2 later faces back towards you and chases normally again.

[@set-terra3866]

Otz: " maybe survivors will realize that this isn't fun" Survivors with mft, dead hard, anti tunnel perks. Me: "well they d**m deserve it"

[@JustMiluna]

It was such a weird statement from him, specially since it's a solid perk and nothing more. Saying this after years of old dh, and during this meta too?! Oh my , really silly

[@wardbottram2538]

The main difference is probably also that you don't into a killer running coup that often while mft has an extremely high usage rate

[@muysli.y1855]

Anti Tunnel perk is toxic? What next Kindred?

[@set-terra3866]

@@muysli.y1855 idk where you got toxic from? I said: isn't fun. Plus, if you're gonna make a point. Don't exaggerate by using an unreasonable example.

[@sovietspaceship]

as a makeshift wrap enjoyer I do this a lot; it also works by placing the trap at the edge of a pallet or at narrow passages to force survivors to run the short side of a loop, as you can cut them off. The spot at 1:47 (which otz was clearly considering) for example would force a survivor running that side of the loop to go around the pillar on the right, but you can go through it for an easy hit

[@R1z1n_ttv]

I always thought trapper shouldn't get caught in his own traps unless carrying someone, I mean he placed the darn thing he should just step over it

[@empiyrr2133]

I now imagine trapper taking a comically large step over the trap

[@zeemgeem]

we just have to make every killer able to be hit by their own power to make it fair.

[@gumivods]

@@zeemgeem when nurse dashes 2 times in a row, she gets dizzy and needs to go to a fountain to drink some water

[@Hyperdisk]

​@@gumivodsNurse now has a 20% chance to trip after blinking when you try to attack.

[@deathbyping]

I think that MFT is problematic but that coup is not, sure it adds a similar layer of unpredictability but that’s the point. Killer perks are supposed to be stronger because it’s their 4 perks versus 16 other possible perks out of the much longer list of strong survivor perks.

[@rtristan8572]

The fact traps are so useless and easy to counter that using them as an extension of the loop instead of actual traps is a viable strategy really tells how disconected from reality the balance team who are "happy with his performance" are.

[@michaelcollazo7911]

Weird that they would not buff their mascot killer. His traps are so antiquidated.

[@cerdi_99]

@@michaelcollazo7911 the problem isn't traps themselves, but rather the maps. They at some point decided to make every map (and reworked map) have thin af grass and make the floor bright instead of dark. So now ,except on a few maps like Dead Dawg Saloon, you can't hide traps on grass (bc it's too thin or it just doesn't exist) and the blackening add-on is not only useless on most maps, but actually detrimental. So now the solution is to either change the traps somehow or rework the newer maps so they are useful for trapper, and sadly I don't think either is gonna happen :(

[@lutetiunn]

@@cerdi_99 I think it would be nice if traps matched the lighting/color of their respective maps so that he's no longer map dependent and as well as maybe doing something else other than adding more grass (maybe that's the play) to maps to help trapper.

[@Ouroboros619]

​@@cerdi_99what I don't get is how they can add props (Pig, Plague, Singularity) or a filter (Freddy, Sadako) to help hide traps better but won't

[@Slayerlord13]

@@cerdi_99 I haven't played in a while but the semi-new map with the very dark room/rooms in the center building would be very funny to put traps in the dark in

[@jasonfoxfire9563]

Always knew this addon had potential. Honestly, make it basekit that Trapper can walk through his own traps when not carrying a survivor. The man needs some love and this is actually a pretty clever tactic for trapper to use that isn't overpowered but also works extremely well particularly against good players who know how to loop.

[@ShakerGER]

Weird sugesstion: Why not change the trap color depending on the map? have sand colored traps for the artist map.

[@cerdi_99]

that's such a good sugestion. Instead of the black tar making them blacker they could make it so that they make the traps more similar in color to the ground of the map (light grey for the Game, for example)

[@lutetiunn]

@@cerdi_99 yeah that should be basekit, I just replied to your comment saying this exact in another thread lol but yeah I think color change on his traps should be basekit and these addons should be basekit as well. I genuinely think with these changes he can signifcantly go up some tiers and of course with time we can see if he's too unfair with these changes (where he might be A Tier now, but now he's as unfun to face as Skull Merchant) or if these are healthy changes to him to bring him up to speed with the other killers.

[@cerdi_99]

@@lutetiunn great minds think alike XD

[@NickDaGamer1998]

Instead of having them change colour to suit the floor of the map, make them more opaque. That way it's less of a coding nightmare for the devs and it works a lot more efficiently as it's just a texture change.

[@cerdi_99]

@@NickDaGamer1998 do you mean less opaque? As in, more translucent? Or something different?

[@galaxyfox_epic]

i love how excited otz got during the first match once things really started to get going lmao

[@jakubolex1026]

Nice to see OTZ having fun with Trapper again

[@auroradavar1058]

that is a wild build for such a common addon, glad to see trapper getting some love with the techs

[@Velkan1396]

Devs: "See guys? The Trapper is perfectly balanced."

[@walpurgisnacht6420]

I'm just happy when I see Otz being happy about a new trapper trick

[@Eguzky]

That add-on should literally be how Trapper works. Basekit.

[@EvelinaNinudottir]

Otz having a good time playing Trapper makes me happy.

[@maxl_2034]

"Hello friends, this is Otz. As far as Chupi/my dog is concerned."

[@Vincent-bf3li]

The new trapper trick casually became a showcase of Coup de grâce

[@h0nkyGreg]

Coup is fine, it isn't problematic, and you can definitely tell when a killer has it. I usually agree with you, but this is a hot take lol

[@jp7255]

I haven't seen Otz this excited about playing trapper in years. It was nice to see you so giddy at the beginning lol

[@friedchickenchessemilos2687]

It's great to see otz having so much fun with Trapper again, playing his old main 🙂

[@Rukir]

Coup is easily my favorite perk in the game, conceptually and gameplay wise. So fun and unique

[@manofculture2.030]

Love you otz thanks for everything you've done for this earth❤

[@B1g_B0sssss]

Like making us rock solid when looking at him?

[@getoverit1656]

​@@B1g_B0sssssrock hard* 😉

[@hardboiled2987]

Relax lol he plays video games for entertainment he didnt cure cancer and rid the world of hunger lmfao

[@manofculture2.030]

@@hardboiled2987 He's made my life happier so to me it's equivalent.

[@Southrobinart]

It brings me immense joy to see otz enjoying trapper again.

[@derpudeldestodes4614]

Otz is back with another Trapper-Video. It feels like coming home after a long journey

[@BouncingTribbles]

I call these corner traps and I use them all the time. Not just with makeshift wraps, but I basically always use wrap and gbag. Survivors always expect doors, but corners and jumps (and especially drops) surprise them all the time. Fun video

[@Quizzoli]

The sas behind hellas “ok” speaks louder than a thousand words

[@jacemcelroy-ml7wf]

8:20 just like killers guessing dead hard for years

[@randalloses2748]

Or now MFT, you only know when its too late

[@anotherone3815]

exactly lol

[@emirinobambino]

We need more addons that change functionality of powers-even minor changes can have significant gameplay implications. I love stuff like this!

[@Trident_Gaming03]

With the new survivor vaults, Trapper needs anything he can get

[@vellycanelly7429]

I’ve always thought abt doing this kind of playstyle, but I’m glad other people are experimenting with this as well.

[@ghostiies]

another otz video to rewatch 80 times let’s go ❤

[@notOtzdarva]

I think once or twice is enough 😅

[@bloxer9563]

@@notOtzdarva 📈

[@kit_mason]

okay, I think this is the playstyle that finally makes me try out trapper. as a dredge main i love circumventing loops and this seems really funny

[@justtocomment4100]

That thumbnail render looks awesome, my thanks to the chef.

[@evonew_z7863]

Finnaly, bro that was the objective of this Addon and nobody had ever talked about it, ty

[@jeang6588]

11:30 I feel you could've done an extreme version of this tactic, by placing traps in a zig zag pattern for Ace, and after he escapes, he either has to snake around the traps and you cut him off, or he goes to the nearby loop and you run him there. Probably should've also runned Leon out of the game.

[@ajkcool]

"See? Trapper is balanced!" - BHVR, probably

[@salmanwahidi91]

This was super fun to see, Otz! Will surely try this tech out!

[@GameStrikerX2]

Me who's been doing this for a while now because I use makeshift wrap 90% of the time lol. Another tip is that this works on pallets that are too wide on one side that survivors can normally squeeze right by the trap (like some of the filler pallets on Decimated Borgo). The idea is that you place the trap not in the middle of the pallet but on the wider side, and they see that they have enough space to squeeze by it if need be, but you chase them the direction that makes it so if they go around the trap and greed they get hit, but if they choose to drop the pallet because, they get vacuumed into the trap!

[@TheMultiColoredMan]

God bless Otz's mad level of energy

[@mythmage8231]

This would be so insanely fun if Survivors actually looped anymore

[@Kt6420]

Hey Otz! I love your videos keep it up!

[@andywilson4789]

There wasn't a single loop where running through your own trap mattered lol

[@Karliah15243]

His intros are always so clever, cheers Otz!

[@Luneshade]

This has to be one of my new favorite 'Hello friends' introduction lines from you

[@squibbles_]

Since this was secretly a Coup video in disguise: I don't think the perk poses AS big of a problem as subtle speed changes like MFT and the new Xenomorph perk, because the big problem with those sorts of perks is that they not only make previously impossible plays possible, but the change they make is so small that it's impossible for the average player to tell the difference. At least when a killer runs coup, the survivor KNOWS they have coup when they lunge into a different timezone, and it's just a matter of learning what is and isn't possible when dealing with the extended lunge. I think of it more like that blight serum you can get for medkits during halloween because of that.

[@PlushLordOfTheSeas]

pretty slick trick, he still needs a heavy buff though, even a secondary power like messing with windows/pallets would help. "I don't wanna use a coup stack" is exactly why I call coup de grace an anti-perk and a self debuff.

[@dutchplanderlinde5905]

Coup de Grace is the only reason to buy Twins, pls don't make devs think it's problematic, Otz

[@iOmegaToxic]

I honestly think they shouldn't have made (Coup De Grace) get 2 tokens per gens but rather made it so it wouldn't waste a token if you don't lunge over the normal range, that way it wouldn't be so op and not so advanced either

[@brad1426]

I was running coup before the buff to try and get used to it, and now I'm running it after the buff. I think it's pretty fun as survivor and killer personally, but that's mostly because I think the giant lunges are hilarious. Also most survivors I go against were like "whoa" rather than "fuck you" lol

[@hamhangerjrtgd7974]

I love when Otz posts

[@BadShotDR]

I actually went and tried Bamboozle + Coup on Trapper after this video, and it was surprisingly VERY fun and satisfying! It surprises survivors quite a bit and makes Trapper feel a lot more fun and comfortable in chase.

[@sidneyg4440]

What i like about coup de crace is it helps tge low tier killers alot and the best killers dont really benefit from it like blight nurse

[@hardboiled2987]

Feels a bit nostalgic seeing him regain some of his trapper giddyness from like 4 years ago

[@roligayol8672]

I think this add-on can be another power for trapper. Just give him this add-on press Q to active with 1 minute cd on it or something. Maybe we can see more of him in the game.

[@lucaselpidio4429]

Damn, that match was fun to watch. Thanks Otz

[@The_GermanDude1998]

Devs needs to buff him. Survivors going down when catched in traps as basekit, not with that addon. Maybe giving a little speedboost for the add on where u cant trap yourself etc etc

[@resolutionblaze363]

Thing is Otz, unlike MFT or Hope, you have to be losing generators to gain stacks of Coup, which are limited. The unpredictability has the cost of being activated by losing gens, which is in control of the survivors. If you use it to get a down a survivor can see it pretty plainly. If you use it but didn't need it you wasted a stack. If you use it and miss, you waste a stack. There are so many levels to fail with Coup that it balances out the fact that it isn't immediately obvious if you have it. There is no way to fail with MFT or Hope. Compare that with NoED, the most infamous perk. It essentially activates under the same conditions as Coup, but lasts indefinitely until the totem is cleansed and can wipe entire games. So, yeah, I think we're just fine with Coup. We just got a buff and I don't want to see a revision because before the buff the perk was pretty mediocre.

[@saffronjin9500]

"coup is unfun" It's literally so fucking funny what do you MEAN from both POVs its fucking hilarious to see

[@ICON-11-]

Resilience and made for this could counter that fairly easily but like Otz said if the survivor is sloppy at looping and not hugging tiles that tech will give the killer the upper hand. Genius idea 👏🏾

[@thirstyfordoctor609]

I will never stop being a trapper, Myers and doctor main. I surely play most killers at frequent levels but these 3 are my og's and that will never change

[@bread3039]

Bloodborne reference in the first few seconds. Stupendous video.

[@toriwilliams8433]

honestly i think if survivors get all these unpredictable (until you figure it out ofc) speed perks coup kind of levels the field - i think either both should be tweaked or neither should be tweaked

[@kagus360]

Eh feel like saying coup of all things is problematic is kind of a bad take from otz. Especially since it's still limited use and like you said there's a lot of things in this game that's worse

[@toriwilliams8433]

@@kagus360 yeah i agree i feel like it was a weird nitpick considering a lot of other perks in the game lol

[@low_bo]

I said out loud "that's so smart!". Absolutely ingenious

[@Anemyya]

What i took away from this video: make coup basekit so that survivors know what to expect from a chase

[@brysonemery9232]

Lmao

[@welove69]

Let's make MFT basekit so that killers know what to expect from a chase🤡 LMAO

[@thegreatpiginthesky3904]

Is its basekit then they know exactly what to expect lmao

[@empiyrr2133]

@@welove69I’m sorry to inform you that the joke went over your head you are in fact the clown here

[@ItchaBoi]

​@@welove69Good idea! Then we can tie it to gens too, so you gain two tokens per gen, and spend one for every 20s you're in chase 🍎🍊

[@unamusedrohan1666]

CDG should have a visual cue for survivors when it activates. Like the killer glows during the lunge or something

[@MakiHSqt]

its pretty obvious when they use coup imo

[@mousetrap330]

and this right here is why makeshift wrap is my absolute favorite addon for trapper!

[@tomaskyrs5396]

Yoo im the Leon in the game cant believe it was you otz. Great game

[@maxashworth3364]

Otz really turned into a giant eldritch squid and no one talking about it.

[@InsaneDemise83]

Seems like the best add on to compliment the Wrap is any that increases setting speeds

[@typeyournamehere3469]

The words "new" and "Trapper" sound really odd together. I feel like he hasn't been touched in ages.

[@devinloew7681]

"This is Otz when your insight reaches 40". I see what you did there

[@Trident_Gaming03]

1:48 This man really just said "that'll be too good" while playing Trapper, completely unhinged

[@hydrospex6330]

Love the bloodborne reference in the intro haha thx Otz I can finally see you!! MADNESS!!

[@SoupProductions]

something to watch while servers are down... thanks otz!

[@coldseraphim]

Trapper being fun?We're reaching into greatness here

[@smockytubers1188]

Is the uncertainty factor of Coup really unique though? I know MFT and Hope are the other perks that people usually make this complaint about, but I really don't see how "hidden perk suddenly appears and turns what you thought was a predictable success into a failure" isn't like... half the perks in the game. "With both of us together we can stick this gen before he downs us." -STBFL appears "Oh well, that's okay I'll just take the second hit and go down, we'll still get it though." -Surge appears "Welp, we just threw the whole game I guess." Alternatively: -No Surge, other teammate sticks gen -Adrenaline for all 4 players -Everyone easily escapes to nearby loops -Except suddenly, NOED Know what I mean? Sure, some perks everyone can see before it directly affects them (e.g. Bamboozle blocking windows, Any Means resetting a pallet, hook sabotages, Trail of Torment) and some others have obvious effects after the fact (Adrenaline, NOED, Deliverance), but others only tell specifically one person after it harms them (Mad Grit and Iron Grasp for instance only tell the person being carried but might affect bodyblockers), and still a few others never tell anyone anything at all (Surveillance, any aura reading if you don't have Distortion, Hyperfocus and other gen+ perks). MFT, Hope, and Coup are somewhere in the first two categories, at worst. Why would these be the most problematic?

[@Chaoxide666]

This is actually pretty cool never thought about it

[@ToonsterBB]

in before BHVR nerfs this in 2 weeks because trapper's killrate went up.

[@rahmounimohamed9632]

I genuinely am at aw that it took this long to discover this tech

[@Hibernape]

A Trapper Otz video. We are so back.

[@mysteriousturnip6729]

at least with coup survivors can easily catch on after a chase. with mft it can be challenging to detect ?

[@boblackburn1252]

Thanks so much Otz, your videos never fail to make me happy. i Hope you’re doing well!

[@pureradiants888]

this was a great coup showcase sheesh

[@joshkeller2671]

Otz has convinced me, I am now going to be the only trapper main

[@LordLevitan]

What video is supposed to be about: “Hey, look how with one add on you can catch survivors off guard on safe loops” What this video really is about: “Coup de Grade is killer’s Made for This”

[@NyxDeSade]

I loved the reference to Bloodborne 💜🖤 it's so amazing when you reach that point of the game