A Newcomer's Guide to the Metal Gear Saga

With the upcoming release of Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol.1 on modern game platforms, a new generation will finally get the opportunity to dive into Hideo Kojima's Metal Gear game series. As legendary as the series is, it can be daunting for total newcomers to even know where to begin, let alone get past the damn title screen in Metal Gear Solid. Don't worry, we got you.
Metal Gear (MSX) Guide: thesnakesoup.org/metal-gear-m...
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake Guide: thesnakesoup.org/metal-gear-2...
MGS4 "Minecraft" Guide: drive.google.com/drive/folder...
Policenauts for people who don't understand Japanese: policenauts.net/
Further Reading: thesnakesoup.org/videos/newcom... (bottom of page)
Written, Edited, and Directed by ForceWave
Narrated by HubPie
0:00 Prologue
3:05 #1: What order should I play the games in?
6:21 #2: What should I do before playing the first Metal Gear Solid?
8:01 #3: What are some general tips?
10:10 #4: I finished all the games in Master Collection Vol. 1. How can I play the other games?
12:22 #5: I played the entire Metal Gear Saga. What do I do now?
17:01 Conclusion

[@snithnorddarthbathrobe6928]

as a metal gear fan i fully endorse this guide. it's well-done and very accurate. the only thing it missed is the in-depth explanation of metal gear rising's terrifying modding scene

[@ShockleyHaynes]

This is awesome. It's accessible & clear, and it sets aside the hair-splitting that can deter newcomers. Thanks for the "Driving Off the Map" and "Monstrous Births" shout-outs!

[@angelsackson]

HOW HAVE I JUST FOUND YOU?! IM 31 AND I WAS ALWAYS ON YOUR WEBSITE BACK WHEN I WAS IN 7th GRADE! Jeez I was like, 11?!? SUBBED, THEN, NOW & FOREVER, BOSS!

[@tompeters4868]

I am 100% in the 'Fuck Konami' camp, but I am also glad that a new generation of people have a way to play these great games conveniently.

[@SamtheBravesFan]

If there's one thing that Konami does right these days, it's classic game compilations.

[@doejon9424]

Wait until they charge $70 for the next gen remake of Snake Eater.. that's apparently the same exact game, map, locations, etc.. with the graphics of PS5/Xbox S. Clowns.

[@2yoyoyo1Unplugged]

@@doejon9424Still giving it a chance. It looks ORGASMICALLY good, and there has been no statements of what is or isn’t gonna be added. Plus, we already see it’s gonna have crouch walking and totally overhauled animations. There is almost certainly gonna be small nods to later canon deveopments.

[@GugureSux]

Been saying it for 20+ years, will say it again: Play in release order! Start with either the MG1 (1987) or the MGS1 (1998), depending on your retro-gaming tolerances. You WILL thank me later, and it'll be a journey to remember. Also do remember to check the "Briefing Files" -videos and the "Previously" documents in the main menu of MGS1, and try some VR Training (= tutorials) before jumping into the campaign. Otherwise, many younger folk will not be ready for such an oldschool experience. You also get a lot of extra backstory and trivia to flesh out the main campaign.

[@g3nj1]

So, exactly what the video said?

[@Horeteppe]

Very handy work dude! Hope the video will get the attention it deserves! Good stuff! We welcome all the new players to the franchise!

[@thewrathofrevan5999]

"This is the back of the game's CD case. Pretty cool, right?" And they refuse to elaborate, lmao. Got a good laugh outta me there. Thank goodness the back of the box and the digital store pages are cool too now that the Master Collection is out.

[@sameeratownsend6509]

i dont get the context i have played mgs1 and 2 so far

[@matthewhewitt4145]

Evidently, not because maybe an hour into mgs1, they require you to look at the back of the actual CD case to get the frequency 140.15 to call Meryl. Unless it is automatically in there on master collection. ​@sameeratownsend6509

[@KaiSchSp]

I am so excited for this collection. I've been waiting for a rerelease of these titles for like a decade.

[@Xxandrew01]

5:49 That is why I tell people who never played Metal Gear before that are starting to now with Master Collection Vol 1 to start in release order with Metal Gear (1987) and Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake. To understand the evolution of the series leading up to the Solid games.

[@danielschmaderer]

9:07 this is SO much more important than one realizes for Metal Gear Solid 1. If you’re playing it for the first time and you’re stuck (which you will at one point), take a screenshot of this and come back to it.

[@twosnakse]

Incredible. Snake Soup was one of my go to BB/Forums almost 20 years ago. Ravi must be 50 by now lol.

[@ForceWave-1139]

I want to thank Ravi for hosting this on The Snake Soup. I hope everyone enjoys the upcoming release of Master Collection Vol.1 just as much as I enjoyed getting into the series all those years ago!

[@supremeworld87]

Does Ravi even work on that site anymore? I thought he hung up his boots like a decade ago. Kind of weird seeing the Snake Soup on youtube again. I thought his parasitic legacy video was great but thought that would be the last we'd her from him

[@ForceWave-1139]

@@supremeworld87All the recent articles and this video have been my work, with Ravi acting as editor in chief.

[@agustinpara]

The Snake Soup is still alive!?

[@darkness2160]

Wow, what a great video 🫡 Can’t wait for master collection

[@gamedotfilm3929]

Great video, haven't replayed the games in many years I'm excited to go back

[@ethan-scott]

The fact that there are this many asterisks and weird things you have to know makes this pretty overwhelming for someone interested in the series. Good video, weird series.

[@lloydmcleod629]

Him: don't submit to Ocelot's torture. My hand: **Vietnam flashbacks intensify**

[@Volt35]

Great vid. I was on the Snake Soup forums going back to 2005 (!). Newcomers, enjoy the ride.

[@wwemusicfanC]

Glad to see Snake Soup still alive and kicking. Was fun to visit it after I got into the series back in 2010. Loved reading the articles. I was probably the only fool who played the games in chronological order back then. Still had a great time and I didn't mind going from newer to older gameplay. I found myself agreeing with the site that the series could have, and should have ended with MGS3. But fuck it, MG games are an enjoyable mess that nobody should miss out on.

[@matteostrobelt6034]

Great video, very interesting and helpful. Thank you!

[@underscore_535]

Snack Sip returns!!

[@UnculturedPigeon]

I love the little back of the CD case part. Perfect

[@Cbacn]

Awesome video Vol. 1 isn't even out and I can't wait for Vol. 2 hopefully mgs 4 is apart of it since I haven't been able to play it.

[@Id0nthavename]

holy shit the soup's alive

[@BondforgedSky]

This was great. Metal Gear is a series I've been DYING to get into for years, especially after playing Death Stranding last year ( which became my favorite game of all time and one of my favorite works of media in general ). So I'm so happy that the new master collection will finally give me the opportunity to play these games.

[@royb5820]

Tomorrow Is In Your Hands

[@danielschmaderer]

The series is absolutely amazing. I feel it has much more depth than any other game out there. That and it’s honestly a really fun game.

[@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034]

I hope Portable Ops, Ac!ds, Ghost Babel and Rising get included as bonus content. They are pretty cool games on their own.

[@stormmeansnowork]

For me MPO should count as canon because first, it doesn't contradict to any other canon games and second, it actually supplement some story elements even though you can complete the remaining canon games without MPO and would feel the story doesn't make sense.

[@ForceWave-1139]

⁠@@stormmeansnowork”it doesn’t contradict any canon games” You should check out our Further Readings guide.

[@raidernation2163]

What about The Twin Snakes such an underrated game my first Metal Gear game and my all time favourite GameCube game 💯

[@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034]

@@raidernation2163 I hope it can arrive as bonus content eventually!

[@stormmeansnowork]

@@raidernation2163 As you may have known, TTS splits opinions among fans. For me, it's the better graphics that matters more, despite the slightly overdone cutscences. The voice acting was also a split - I actually like the acting for Liquid and Raven far more than those in the original, but I need to admit Snake and Campbell can do better. Some questioned the decision to remove the accents of Naomi and Mei Ling, but that's actually more sensible because they both grew up in the US since teenage. The only that I am really not satisfied with the game was the deviation from the original sound track, but no matter what, I like that overall package, only that it is on Game Cube and that may be the reason why it cannot be released in PS5

[@marciorodrigo6863]

New to Metal Gear? Welcome!

[@aldoeljardinero]

Great great video man, keep uploading quality MGS content like this and you got yourself a well deserved bell icon click. (Nvm here you go mate, you deserve it.)

[@ryancentnarowicz]

I just finished metal gear 2 solid snake yea I recommend using a guide for these games. Don’t know how gamers back in the day figured some puzzles out without a guide. But yet again these games were only released in Japan back then and games in Japan were way harder than American games.

[@electrotab]

Excellent video. I have now subscribed.

[@ErnestMas]

Masterful! You are indeed worthy of the codename SNAKE... 🐍📦❗

[@SoldSanke]

Here's to (You), 'Soup!

[@gtareds]

Holy crap, you're alive!? The last video of yours that I saw was Parasitic Legacy and that was like 7 years ago!

[@supremeworld87]

Parasitic Legacy was Ravi Singh, the owner/creator of the website. These guys are not him, looks like he might have passed on the site to them or something because he stopped working on the site years ago

[@ForceWave-1139]

@@supremeworld87I edited this video and Parasitic Legacy. The narrator for this video is my friend, HubPie. Though this video is mostly my brainchild, Ravi retains editorial control over everything.

[@furrybproductions]

W Release order!

[@stevenwaters591]

Snatchers and Policenauts are great!

[@stevenmorris2234]

Not including Metal Gear Survive. It’s amazing the main storyline plus the side games. The franchise came a long way from 1987-2015. Which lasted for 28 years. But of course it’s still going strong thanks to remastering the old games for the newest Gen consoles!

[@aaronvasseur6559]

Switch users don’t care about framerate they never have so this is fine

[@2NDFLB]

▪️ framerate? ⬛

[@chrysm6842]

Thanks, I'll check all the links.

[@ApacheSmash]

Instructions unclear... Currently playing Minecraft Help the creepers are outside

[@thesnakesoup]

tips.fbi.gov/home

[@JamesLehartProductions]

Ravi “did you rike it”

[@Catchy1995]

Am just waiting for mgs 4

[@seb6991]

I can recommend Unmetal for e.g. Nintendo switch, it has the metal gear spirit

[@arealhumanbeing4651]

Snake Soup... I missed this website...

[@DivineEnjoys]

"Did you like my sunglasses"

[@2NDFLB]

▪️ Sunglasses? ⬛

[@CliffGoW]

Babe, wake up, new Snake Soup drop!

[@SodaPopBot]

I'd love to play the MS Sex

[@Chris-dh3vi]

Hey folks! I'm a real noobie to the Metal Gear franchise, but am enjoying my time starting with the first game Metal Gear (1987). I was hoping to get some help answering a question. In Metal Gear (1987), when the cigarettes are equipped, they will make a *ding ding* noise and blink every few seconds. What is this supposed to indicate? It happens in rooms with or without inferred lasers. Thank you all!

[@darkwilly90]

Question to the community do you guys think we're going to get mgs4 remastered

[@KristinaFarron]

i hope metal gear solid 4 will be on ps5 i really want to play it again

[@mattgoo]

i had sooo much fun playing unmetal. i highly recommend it!

[@MrAwesumo]

Didn’t even know about this collection spent 3 days setting up emulation on my steam deck to play em 😭. It was worth it in the end lol

[@StrawberrySoaps]

But do I need to track down MGSV Mission 51?

[@MrEffectfilms]

The "Minecraft" joke never got old 😂. And unfortunately that's the only way nowadays to be able to experience the whole series without owning several different systems.

[@mikeking1948]

I had the original PS versions when they came out in 98. I did notice that Twin Snakes cleaned up the original MGS as well as make characters actually talk. Is that what we'll be getting in Master Collection?

[@ForceWave-1139]

wdym the characters always had voice acting. In fact, TTS actually had worse voice acting.

[@mikeking1948]

@ForceWave-1139 I mean if u look at the animation of TTS it's crisper and the characters actually move they're mouths and facial expressions when they talk. As opposed to the original PS1 MGS

[@ForceWave-1139]

@@mikeking1948None of that really matters when the experience is worse overall. Watch jackdonsurfer’s ‘Metal Gear Solid vs. The Twin Snakes: How Not to Remake a Classic.’

[@Zockanumber1]

When I first got into the series I played MGS3 first, it being a prequel and all and I would heavily advise any newcomer against doing so. With MGS3 being arguably the best in the series and one of the best games ever in general MGS and MGS2 felt like a massive downgrad and I robbed myself of a lot of the fun I could have had

[@g3nj1]

Feeling robbed playing MGS2 is an intended part of the experience. Growing up with MGS1 on PS1, then playing as raiden felt annoying when I just wanted to be solid snake again... Yet, it was intentional apparently?

[@cookieface80]

It also clearly builds off of the Patriots from MGS2 with the Philosophers. Also the Raiden jokes won't be funny if you haven't played MGS2.

[@g3nj1]

@@cookieface80 well, that's true about the jokes.

[@Zockanumber1]

@@g3nj1 Thats true. Feeling robbed is part of the experience of MGS2. The gameplay and presentation being a downgrade from MGS3 isnt an intended part of the experience though lol

[@g3nj1]

@@Zockanumber1 you're right about the experience downgrade, and the references won't land as well in reverse order. I think starting with MGS1 is the best, then 2 and 3, and so on.

[@RonnieMyers777]

Nostalgia can make me overlook the 20yr old graphics but NOT the clunky controls

[@The_pelican_god]

Thats why im worried about snake eater remake. I hate the controls

[@nilt_pl6087]

@@The_pelican_godit's gonna have mgsv similar controls

[@The_pelican_god]

@@nilt_pl6087 oh then im totally down for this game. Just as long as they dont remove anything

[@nilt_pl6087]

@@The_pelican_god i assume Kojima's name might be removed but that's probably it

[@mrdabrow]

Instead of the cd-case you can just call Campbell a couple of times, suddenly a new person to call will pop up. Also, playing TTS somewhere between MGS2 and MGS4 should be considered, since the script was "updated", even if it's worse than the original.

[@lukehenderson5097]

I've seen almost all of these things from the PCS in comments on other people's videos about the master collection.

[@2NDFLB]

▪️ master collection? ⬛

[@catlinkerswell3696]

Lets see

[@anthonydef3000]

Ohh shit…damn where’s Ravi!

[@du0lol]

Metal Gear Solid 2, 3 and Peace Walker are also available on Xbox via backwards compatibility. Xbox being, y'know, a modern platform.

[@ForceWave-1139]

1:28

[@du0lol]

@@ForceWave-1139 You can just buy the disc. Also, Peace Walker wasn't delisted.

[@ForceWave-1139]

@@du0lol”just buy the disc” 75% of XBox Series owners own the Series S, and rumor is that the next Series X revision will phase out discs entirely. PW is on one platform? Cool. There’s at least three others it needs to be on.

[@du0lol]

@@ForceWave-1139 people who support digital-only platforms have only themselves to blame when the games they want to play become unavailable for them. Meanwhile, my point still stands: it's available on disc, and you can play on Xbox 360, Xbox One and Xbox Series X.

[@ForceWave-1139]

@@du0lolI’m sure that’ll be relevant for the minority of people who happen to own a Series X. The point still stands that the games would’ve been inaccessible to everyone else if not for the Master Collection (unless you honestly expect people to drop $500 for one decade old game collection).

[@liquidsnake76]

The whole "Minecraft" way - Yea the documentation there.... But the tools to do so isn't there fully!

[@arealhumanbeing4651]

Snake's Revenge?

[@randallharter]

Wish there was a new MGS coming out. I would unretire and get a new console for MGS6.

[@2yoyoyo1Unplugged]

I will always recommend MG1 and 2 before MGS1. Until Master Collection, the only way to play them easily was on PS3, and even then they were a bonus, not advertised as a key part of the collection like the Master Collection

[@johncahill1985]

Just got my switch physical copy today and I need like almost 30 gigs there’s olny 3 gigs on the cart strange

[@ForceWave-1139]

The Switch version is one of those physical fakes where you have to download most of the content.

[@bigking2743]

I ain't playing them games before solid

[@gusvaughn7666]

What is the game called that he says right after the splinter cell series? I've listened several times and I just can't make out what is being said lol.

[@ForceWave-1139]

Mike Bithell’s Volume

[@Argonisgema]

When the topic of remakeing metal gears 1 and 2 came up in the video, wouldn't it be possible to say that metal gear solid was say a soft reboot of the series? like yeah the events of the older games still happened but a lot of the events in solid mirror oddly similar to metal gear.

[@ForceWave-1139]

Every Metal Gear game shares elements of past entries. Look up ‘Monstrous Births’ by James Howell. It’s linked in our Further Readings guide.

[@cookieface80]

Which is why I find it funny when people complain that MGS2 is too similar to MGS1, since that's the only one where the repitition is actually explained by the plot.

[@Argonisgema]

@@cookieface80 I thought MGS2 being similar to 1 WAS the plot point. like they mention it ingame that the big shell was suppose to mirror shadow moses or something even down to dead cell being that games equivalent to foxhound.

[@cookieface80]

@@Argonisgema Yeah, exactly. They wanted to prove that they could influence anybody to do what they wanted, Shadow Moses was the model they used to test that.

[@coyotestylepro1150]

GreatEST 🥷🏿 game everrrr

[@tgirlswagg]

1:37 idk RPCS3 is one of the easiest to set up emulators I have ever come across that arent of the NES or the like

[@ForceWave-1139]

As the person who made the MGS4 Minecraft guide, I strongly disagree. Even now that I got the game stable, it still has some noticeable issues.

[@thesnakesoup]

i prefer a FN P90 to play mgs4 IRL IMO YMMV IYKYK

[@Ikhaho]

Yeah, about that MGS 4. Every other game runs well to great on the RPCS3 in minecraft. But MGS 4 just crashes randomly after about 2 or 5 or 10 or 3 minutes into gameplay without any reason. (in minecraft)

[@crookedcarpet]

ive still never played 3 or 4.

[@MoonPirate437]

Keep out sight. Good luck 😉 😂

[@rickymayberry9998]

I think Death Stranding would work better as a movie. The story mainly.

[@mikael9931]

I have MGS on GOG and kinda "started early" playing the series. This is my first time playing any MGS and i couldn't be more excited.

[@ForceWave-1139]

Get a refund. The GOG version is terrible.

[@mikael9931]

@@ForceWave-1139 Hmm i was under the impression that the GOG version of MGS1 is one of the best versions of the game or was it with fan patches or something? 🤔

[@ForceWave-1139]

@@mikael9931Even with fan patches, it’s missing music and still has lots of small issues that add up. Whoever told you the GOG version is the best was high.

[@mikael9931]

@@ForceWave-1139 So refunding the GOG version and getting the master collection is the best course of action?

[@ForceWave-1139]

@@mikael9931Correct

[@nocheckmarkgames]

I feel like that new set of remasters they did aren't worth the money. If you're a fan that bought the Collection for PS3/Xbox then you already have more than whats offered in this newest release.

[@thesnakesoup]

yeah probs but heres the thing. im not a newcomer. you dont sound like one either. imagine youre a zoomer born after the big shell incident who heard someone go "metal gear solids is the best fr" and then youre like ok how to i play this metal gear solids and they tell you to do a bunch of shit you dont want to do like buy an old piece of shit from a crack addict or download a bunch of questionable shit on your art-school-student-loan-funded ipad pro. having this shit on ps5 and hoping they patch everything wrong with it is probably what youre gonna do. some millenial might tell you how easy it is to play them on ps3 and youre gonna call them a boomer. in your heart, you know im right. anyways, heres wonderwall kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJndo3ebmMp4gcU

[@Txqenio]

I barely started playing and I’m at the part with the big titty sniper girl this game is good 👍

[@ItalianJoe83]

This video contains expressions 0:38 and themes 17:02 which may be considered outdated. However, these elements have been included without alteration to preserve the historical context in which the video was made and the content creator's original vision. Viewer discretion is advised.

[@billyball]

Boobs are outdated now?!

[@ItalianJoe83]

@@billyball According to the employee who wrote this Konami's content warning message about all the Metal Gear games included in this "Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1" (that I adapted for this video) which insults Hideo Kojima's work of a lifetime after the guy and most of his team left this ex gaming company in October 9th 2015 the answer is yes... not just for about the boobs unfortunately...

[@ForceWave-1139]

@@ItalianJoe83lol it doesn’t “insult Kojima’s work.” It’s giving a heads up because, yes, culture changes as time goes on, and Kojima definitely puts problematic shit into his games (like how you can sexually assault nearly every female character in Policenauts). It’s ok to respect Kojima as an artist while still being critical of him.

[@Chamaco208]

Great video. But I also suggest for newcomers to the saga on PC, before considering buying the Masters, to play the GOG versions of MGS and MGS2 which are official PC releases with actual support for keyboard and mouse. Both can be run at 60fps only caveat is with MGS since the game's engine and animations are specifically designed for 30fps playing on 60fps accelerates the game. MGS2 however you can play at smooth glorious 60fps and with the MGS2 V fix launcher you can add special effects and run up to 8k resolution. MGS2 has been pulled from GOG store but you can still find the game, if you know where to look ;)

[@ForceWave-1139]

The GOG versions are terrible. MGS1 is missing effects and MGS2 isn’t even available (but also, doesn’t have proper widescreen. Even the hack messes with the aspect ratio).

[@Messihaz]

based minecraft enjoyer

[@NebLleb]

I deleted my past comment to also provide some help for newcomers: DON'T buy the Master Collection 1 on PC. The Collection is actually a mostly solid attempt, but the PC port is _very_ barebones with clickbait channels even declaring it a SCAM just because they're only familiar with the PC port. Go for the console versions, and you'll be fine (though I personally am content with PC as it's the version I pre-ordered and there's tons of modding potential, if V's fix from the equally dire, if not worse Solid 2 Substance port is any indication).

[@illlogick7151]

It bugs me that the MSX versions are not included in this upcoming Vol. 1 collection 😢

[@ForceWave-1139]

But they are. They even come with MGS1 if you buy it individually.

[@illlogick7151]

@@ForceWave-1139 they are?? I guess I read it wrong .. hold up lol

[@illlogick7151]

It says famicom , nes version

[@ForceWave-1139]

@@illlogick7151Both the MSX games and NES games are part of the Master Collection.

[@illlogick7151]

I see now ! Thank you for taking the time to clear that up for me !

[@WhispersOfWind]

Neincraft.

[@muhmuhmuh8913]

Own all of them ready to play with my ps3 still hooked up ready to go, metal gear rising too. Ground zeroes and mgsV on ps4/5. Still probably get this collection at some point though. Maybe when its a bit cheaper.

[@ForceWave-1139]

Thanks for keeping us updated on your individual situation.

[@Ikhaho]

Rising on the Ps3 was not that good. I prefer the PC-version with the fps fix of course. (I really like this game ^^)

[@Purplepenguinguy]

Peace walker is currently available on Xbox 360, one, and series s/x, and ps3. So as of the upcoming master collection release, if you have an Xbox…the only one you won’t be able to play is mgs 4

[@ForceWave-1139]

There’s three other platforms PW needs to be ported to.

[@jacobsendejo8788]

Really hoping Portable Ops and Rising get included as bonus in Vol 2. in the future. Portable Ops features some very crucial events that plant the seeds for Big Boss' private army motivation plus alot of character development for Ocelot, Roy Cambell, and Gray Fox. The only problem is that you can only play it on PSP, i own it but I'd much rather play on the big screen with dual analog controllers. And Rising is a super underrated and underappreciated MG game, a jolly good time of hack and slash and heavy metal.

[@Chrisgonal]

If you are reading this, please also try Metal Gear Rising. It is easily one of the best games in the series (and best games overall), it was just “divisive” when it came out because it is technically a spin-off. And its lore is very separate from the rest of the franchise, so you don’t need any previous knowledge.

[@ForceWave-1139]

The problem is that it ruined Raiden’s character by having him embrace Jack the Ripper, even though Snake taught him “you can stop being part of a mistake, starting now.” (43:35) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3jPm32Eatp0r7M It’s a fun game, but for those of us who care about the series’ themes and messages, we ought to consider it, if not officially non-canon (to Konami), then non-Kojima-canon (if you go to the “Essential Myth Articles” part of our Further Readings guide, you’ll see why).

[@ei_gui_48]

10:35 You can play peace walker on emulators or xbox series/ one

[@ForceWave-1139]

Not everyone has an XBox, and most players aren’t willing to do emulation. And it’ll probably be included in Vol.2.

[@thesnakesoup]

they can be emulated? wow. i didnt know that. i just uh youre telling me that for the first time. theyre amazing games, what else can you say? theyre amazing games, whether you agree or not, they are amazing games. happy to hear that.

[@FirstnameLastname-my7bz]

1:22 because it is amazing and literally Survival mechanic from 3 but with Fox Engine gameplay AND Gun porn that I could finally 100% use without it being trashy non safe run (or non XOF base mission) because these are bunch of zombies instead of humans that I as a "character" had absolute 0 beef with (except XOF) mostly. And also satisfying coop. Literally couldn't get better than this.

[@gameshack1985]

As I own the PSstore download of MEtal Gear Solid and the PS3 HD collection too....this collection has very limited appeal as they are just re-releases of those games....to see the Ps4 version is download only at £49.999 made me want to puke too. And would I buy them on the Switch for reduced performance? Oh hell no.

[@ForceWave-1139]

Not everyone has a PS3.

[@gameshack1985]

@@ForceWave-1139 they should. No excuse.

[@ForceWave-1139]

@@gameshack1985Not everyone is economically privileged enough to own an out of print console for one game series.

[@gameshack1985]

@ForceWave-1139 good job ps3 is very cheap then.

[@thesnakesoup]

now that i think about it, why even pay $50+ for a used roach-feces infested PS3 and a copy of legacy collection? we can just break into a house and steal a ps3 (in minecraft). way cheaper. plus you probably have some other cool shit i can list on facebook marketplace. got a car, bro? could take the catalytic converter off of it and even make a profit this way. again, in minecraft =^) but yea great points, thanks, might consider. #metalgearfanshustlin

[@WitheredRos3]

I think when the next collection comes out mgs4 and rising should be in it at once considering how closely related they are

[@ForceWave-1139]

Not really. If anything MGR undoes MGS4’s hard won victory and torched Raiden’s happy ending. If you read our Myth articles, you’ll see that Kojima didn’t consider it part of his personal canon.

[@WitheredRos3]

I meant more aesthetically. Ik Kojima doesn’t view it as cannon but I like to and Ik I’m not the only one. Aesthetically they are very similar and I think they blend well.

[@ForceWave-1139]

@@WitheredRos3Aesthetics don’t really matter when it fundamentally screws over Raiden’s character. (43:35) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3jPm32Eatp0r7M

[@Ikhaho]

@@ForceWave-1139 Plus Rising is an really awesome game.

[@ForceWave-1139]

@@IkhahoIt is. I just wish Konami considered it non-canon, like Kojima does. kzbin.infoUgkxnSpRI4dsveSc6F0RLchrvYkDmuXsStM0?si=Ig46gHj5AuV4tf_x

[@RaidenTheRipper950]

Dont forget Rising and Portable Ops!

[@ForceWave-1139]

We didn’t. 14:18

[@RaidenTheRipper950]

Oh come on Twin Snakes wasnt that bad.

[@ForceWave-1139]

Yes it was. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ql6Ve4GCls-ZZ9Usi=VlGDreMQ4XwWR-CL

[@GugureSux]

Twin Snakes = diarrhea. It's a massive, massive downgrade from MGS1 in every conceivable manner. Worse art-style, worse OST, worse VA/localization, butchered gameplay.

[@RaidenTheRipper950]

@@GugureSux Calm down geez

[@robmc198090]

Why show footage of 4 when it's not in the collection

[@ForceWave-1139]

The collection is Vol.1.

[@FirstnameLastname-my7bz]

Hey, grandpa! You are alive!

[@mrpsyco5884]

14:30 If it wasn't clear to you, DO NOT PLAY METAL GEAR SURVIVE its a game so bad its not even worth pirating

[@eevee3473]

i personally would have just added metal gear rising since if anything it's a fun "fair-well" to the series once you're done playing all the games.

[@ForceWave-1139]

It’s not a “fair-well” to the series, it’s a “fuck you” to everything the series stands for. (43:35) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3jPm32Eatp0r7M

[@FirstnameLastname-my7bz]

16:25 too bad that in MGS4 there are footages from Twin Snakes and Portable Ops cutscenes. Uh oh.

[@ForceWave-1139]

Are you seriously lecturing Hideo Kojima on what’s part of his story? Read our Myth article (to completion; don’t stop after only reading the first half of Kojima’s answers). It’s in the Further Readings guide.

[@FirstnameLastname-my7bz]

1:36 at this point just buy decent laptop, not even PC. MGS4 is almost perfectly run with emulator and MGS 3 in basically The Snyder Cut form only exists as Subsistence for PS2 with awesome Nightmare dream gameplay. And all of these is free and you can even play Metal Gear Online 2 !! and 1 too probably. Really PC is the Master Race, the Master Race is PC there is no way to games than through PC, all yours consoles will turn to dust, bur PC will be forever.

[@thesnakesoup]

yeah true, the correct order to play the metal gear series is to buy trump lawyer alina habba's republic of gamer laptop

[@FirstnameLastname-my7bz]

@@thesnakesoup makes sense why you guys overrate Metal Gear Solid 2 so much.

[@thesnakesoup]

gamers are truly the most oppressed race

[@Mintcar923]

Am I the only guy who doesn’t give up his older systems?

[@ForceWave-1139]

Not everyone has access to older systems. Not everyone grew up the way you did.

[@soulblazerz]

The differences between the MSX and NES versions are highly overstated. 🎉

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