A P900 and a Lighthouse on a clear day spells disaster for Flat Earthers.

[@HughJarsz]

Weird how zooming in didn’t bring it back over the horizon…

[@Wolfie6020]

I did the Sun setting too with zooming in and out when it set. I'll show that in the next vid.

[@lecroustillant8709]

The image is in focus, therefore it must be CGI.

[@Justwantahover]

5:18 Stark wave top detail means the visible horizon is way too close for a flat earth. On a pancake world you should be able to see the immediate waves behind the detailed shape waves. But only just sky and visually no sign of any waves at all behind the detailed waves. Earth is not flat.

[@misterocain]

Actually, when you think about it, on an FE, a sea/ocean horizon is impossible.

[@c.augustin]

@@misterocain Exactly, it should always become a hazy something without clear water edge. Anyone can see it, only FEs try to fool themselves and their ilk.

[@IncredibleTOPCast]

Big respect for actually DOING THE WORK. Experimentation is severely lacking on the flat Earth side.

[@Wolfie6020]

Thanks, I t was worth getting there to watch the sun set .

[@IncredibleTOPCast]

@@Wolfie6020 Indeed. Unfortunately there are no sunsets on flat Earth. Eclipses either 😂😂😂🤌🏽

[@sleepingwarrior4618]

Experiment is not lacking on the flat earth side. This is not experiment. That is the problem. Experiment proves things, it proves the cause of an effect. This is just a recording. No hypothesis, no IV, no DV, no manipulation to prove causation. You should know the meaning of the words you use before giving Worm6020 a rim job.

[@IncredibleTOPCast]

@@sleepingwarrior4618 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I recall flat Earthers "experimenting" with mathematics claiming FLAT Earth CURVED 8 inches per mile squared 🥴 Imagine that. A parabolic blunder I'd say 🤣 Even Mexican Jesus can't help flat Earthers 🤌🏽 You should be greatful your ignorance is being pointed out so you can heal bro.

[@Wolfie6020]

@@sleepingwarrior4618 So just insults and name calling from you too Sleepy? Too bad reality destroys your Flat Earth. So when are you going to answer the questions you keep running away from? Nathan got so triggered when you conceded an aircraft will drift off course unless corrections are made. You also conceded that a plane can fly a precise track on a rotating Earth by making corrections. You whined about the Roundabout example but when you realised I had you cornered you ran. Lets try again here, just to watch you run away. This is the comment you ran from. Aircraft glide perfectly well and correct timely application of Math to determine gliding range and endurance can save the aircraft from a crash. i.e. The Gimli Glider. I told you I would be back to check your progress. You didn't answer the question on the wind triangle. Is it too hard for you? You totally botched the question on climb gradients. You answered 100 mph to a question requiring an answer in lbs. You don't even understand the question. Sleepy said "You would MEASURE it Wolfie." Incorrect answer. That won't give you the safe take off weight. But I will humour you to watch you fail again. Assume we weigh the aircraft as you suggested and get 48,500lbs. Can the aircraft take off and meet FAR 25 obstacle clearance requirements? Yes or No? If No, what weight will allow this? You can use the simplified data I provided but no math. if you can't do it, go home kid because you lose again. You did twist my words. I said "The application of Math correctly in aviation is literally a matter of life or death" You said "You claimed applied maths is what saves your planes from crashing" Are those words the same? Yes or No? In some cases applied math can save a plane from crashing. Like when gliding after an engine failure. Do you think we just point the plane and hope for the best? If my glide ratio is 15 to 1 and I am at 45,000 ft what is my gliding range in nautical miles? Subtract 5 NM for the circuit from high key. What is the maximum distance to look for a suitable airport? Do it without using any Math. (Q Branch could do that easily using Math) If my optimum glide speed is 200 Knots minus 1 knot per 500 lbs below Max Take off weight how do I determine best range glide speed at my current weight? No Math. Good luck.

[@ReValveiT_01]

Ooh, ooh, Gary Whybother knows what's causing this! Apparently, it's due to (ehem) "compression perspective angles". When I ask him how I calculate and account these "compression perspective angles", he runs away. FAR away.

[@Wolfie6020]

Gary is good at running. I get the same from him when I ask him to explain how EQ mounts are drift aligned.

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

He just posted so you can ask him again.

[@ReValveiT_01]

@@NinjaMonkeyPrime Thanks, I have. He'll obfuscate and run as he always does; guaranteed.

[@bobsurface908]

The whole idea is stupid. If it was perspective angles, or some blah blah "reduction in the angle subtended until it goes below the limits of observability" crap: the TOP of mountains and towers would disappear before the bottoms... because they're FURTHER AWAY than the bottoms.

[@ReValveiT_01]

@@bobsurface908 Aye well, ya see THAT'S the part where flat earthers stick their fingers in their ears and repeat: "nah nah nah, not happening, nah nah nah".

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

Who would have thought that a prediction, observation, math, and some camera work that focuses correctly and uses a tripod would be so upsetting to scientific truth seekers.

[@ReValveiT_01]

"Truth seekers" for flat earthers has to be the most ironic term ever used for a group of people. FE couldn't be any less 'seeking truth' if it tried. "Confirmation bias seekers" would be accurate.

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

@FlatEarthStigma Interesting idea. Where's the math we can use to test it?

[@ReValveiT_01]

@FlatEarthStigma Nope, that's not how reality works at all. Imagine having to make up your own physics to suit your beliefs... Oh, you don't have to.

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

@FlatEarthStigma So you have no math for a prediction? The lower observation should have a straight line to the shore, but it can't see the shore. At the same time, it has a longer distance and larger angle to the top of the lighthouse, which it sees without any issue. The second observation is closer to the level of the lighthouse. Suddenly the land is visible despite the increase in distance from the observer to the land. Plus the angle to the lighthouse has changed yet what we see wasn't affected at all. You're trying to tell us angles make a difference while ignoring how the video shows angles aren't making any difference to the parts of the lighthouse we see from both locations. The ground is beneath the lighthouse so the distance is identical. Yet the ground is the only thing affected by your so-called idea about angles while the lighthouse remains unchanged. So why does your idea only apply to the ground and not anywhere else? Shouldn't we have the same issue with seeing the tops of mountains? In case you need help, we don't observe any issues seeing the tops of mountains. #gottalietoflerf

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

@FlatEarthStigma At sea level, the angle where the water hits the sky is not increasing, it's zero. You have it totally backwards. The angle to the horizon increases as you gain elevation, not lower. But thanks for debunking that the horizon doesn't rise up to eye level. Nathan and Dubay will be happy you corrected them. So no math we can use to test observations? Sad.

[@kajlauritzen9765]

No, no and No! You are using a tripod, and the camera is focused!!! FLERFS won't understand this at all. 😊

[@Wolfie6020]

That is funny because it is true.

[@doublezap5956]

Who knew that you can focus a P900? Flerf denial incoming...

[@Sherwoody]

A tripod!! It’s gotta be hand held. We all know the image is supposed to be jumping around like a jackrabbit on crack.

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

I was thinking the same thing. How dare he use a tripod.

[@Oddball5.0]

They learned photography from the "How to Photograph Bigfoot" school.

[@carnyzack]

It's pointless giving a scientific explanation to a flat-earther because they are illiterate to science.

[@queuenickpuemmel]

What do you call science is made up bullshit to distort the facts and make lazy people even more lazier.

[@tjjones621]

So true... I just tell them to zoom out on the map they use for directions. They just don't know how to respond to it..

[@queuenickpuemmel]

@@tjjones621 they know it's just stupid to make such a conversation with someone who is too stubborn and lazy to think logically because it always sounds like a discussion with a 1grader or dropout.

[@patchymarbling6637]

​@@queuenickpuemmel the irony of a flattard calling us 1st graders/dropouts LMAO. middle school physics and geometry already destroys flattard delusions many times over. for example, the fact that you dont understand that if the objects in the sky were *spinning*, then we would OBSERVE them *spinning*. and every single accredited scientist and engineer uses the heliocentric model. every bit of modern technology is built by people who would be SHOCKED to find out flattards even exist. just stringing a bunch of words like perspective and angular resolution together and thinking you got a sound theory about the world. what a joke

[@tjjones621]

Just thought I'd memorialize the demise of Dave's little brother, Kenneth Weiss- 5/28/2022 Kenneth Weiss replied: "@TJ Jones @Kenneth Weiss "you personally own, use and rely on a globe Earth map to navigate the planet.“ "NOPE … I use gps or google maps" Who wants to tell him? LOL

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

He seems to have given up on the act.

[@iamTheSnark]

"Don't talk about the fffff lighthouse! Perfect Globe proof!" (Nathan Oakley)

[@Wolfie6020]

LOL, yes.

[@Angel-nl1hp]

Did he actually say that? I heard about it a few times, but I never saw it. Would be quite hilarious.

[@iamTheSnark]

@@Angel-nl1hp He said it. Cat Earth (real name Alex) preserved the conversation with Leaky Warrior for posterity.

[@chrisantoniou4366]

@@iamTheSnark Like I've always said, Nathan Oakley is a liar and a fraud.

[@profphilbell2075]

No further commentary needed. This makes a mockery of the ridiculous flat earth cult.

[@Wolfie6020]

It is almost too easy. I await their nonsense damage control claims.

[@MeppyMan]

@Q Branch that would explain it. A tsunami was blocking the view. Lol.

[@osci08]

@Q Branch What term was it that brian used in one of his video's?

[@Wolfie6020]

@Q Branch Exactly why I posted this particular video. Bathurst Lighthouse always whips them into a frenzy. My personal favourite globe proof is flight planning but all I get are blank stares when I mention the math. Like using the wrong bait when fishing. It gets boring. Use the right bait and they can't resist.

[@Angel-nl1hp]

@Q Branch Already seen Creepy Warrior, Rachie0000 and Liebenga. Are there more? 😀

[@clemstevenson]

You will note that the moon doesn't change significantly in apparent diameter, from rise to set. The supposed flat Earth 'model' implies that the moon's apparent diameter should change very significantly. Flat Earthers claim that the moon's distance from Earth's surface is just a handful of thousands of miles, and that the moon is a relatively small disk. But this cannot be true in any way, as you can only ever see the same face of the moon, at any position on Earth. And the moon would be viewed as being elliptical from any viewpoint that is not directly under the moon.

[@Martial-Mat]

Well clearly they project the hologram to remain constant from every observer position on Earth. Duh. ;-)

[@clemstevenson]

@@Martial-Mat Yes, it's always 'they', rather than 'them'. Flat Earthers will claim that 'they' had holographic projection technology, when Ptolemy was a lad. That would explain Ptolemy's geocentric cockup. Of course daredevil crane pilots, such as Level Earth Observer (the classic country bumpkin), will refuse to use a telescope, because the Illuminati project planets onto the dome.

[@brettbrewer6091]

Yep, whether it's a projection on the dome or a physical object that's relatively close, the moon, sun and constellations would all change size as well as shape as the go around the inner part of a dome.

[@clemstevenson]

@@brettbrewer6091 Exactly. It's astonishing how poorly disciplined these Flat Earthers are. They couldn't even be bothered to check the observed data, before declaring it a conspiracy. Everything that they claim is nonsensical. They will show high altitude balloon footage, and ignore the visible horizon limitation caused by Earth curve..

[@Martial-Mat]

@@clemstevenson :-)

[@arctic_haze]

Well, the shape of the world is a well established scientific fact. on the other hand, no number of measurements and observations will convince the science deniers. They simply know better.

[@John.0z]

They simply *think* they know better. In reality, they seem to know rather little.

[@arctic_haze]

@@John.0z Of course. This is exactly what Dunning and Kruger described in their seminal 1999 paper.

[@joecantdance494]

Stop engaging with SW. You think he is interested in the truth?

[@arctic_haze]

@@joecantdance494 Who is SW, and why should I care?

[@joecantdance494]

@@arctic_haze SW as in Sleeping Warrior and I sincerely hope you don't care what he says!

[@chrisconnors7418]

I don’t know, Wolfie…there was no out of focus shots and very little shaking-therefore CGI! I joke but wouldn’t be surprised if a FE used that “argument” given how often their P900s produce blurry shaky images.

[@shaneeslick]

Yeah due to a Head Injury I shake similar to Parkinson's & can still take less Blurry/Shaky photos & videos than Flat Earthers, 🤔maybe it is because they are not used to the Earth Spinning so Fast

[@sardot4960]

It's a quokka inversion compression layer phenomenon.

[@petergaskin1811]

Wot? No diamagnetic inversion expanding compression perspective?

[@sneakyfox4651]

@@petergaskin1811 No. That's only north of the Zero meridian. :0)

[@misterocain]

or a personal horizon.

[@CatsMeowPaw]

But Wolfie! I don't understand! You zoomed in with the P900 but the bottom of the lighthouse didn't come back into view! 🤣🤣🤣

[@sakilele]

so he is at wrong just cause u cant see the bottom? makes sence,but when 20km high and no curve left to right? then its not high enough? decide rtded globers

[@gafrers]

No, not a P900. Us "globers" are finished, nothing can beat a P900 🤣 Great as always Wolfie

[@MartinWillett]

A P1000 beats a P900.

[@patriciozazzini3182]

@@MartinWillett no not really

[@MartinWillett]

@@patriciozazzini3182 It's more powerful.

[@MrOttopants]

Wow, Wolfie sure causes a stir with the trailer park flatties. I see a 23rd level mage, a failed solicitor, hot dog fingers Wybenga, an intellectulol, a pentanaught, and a few other flatties who still don't have a map, and who think the entire airline industry uses a secret map to fly them to their flattie conferences. Never mind that every nation on the planet would have to be involved in the conspiracy to hide the shape of the planet. And why? Nobody knows.

[@joecantdance494]

Because negative attention gets them off... And humans are idiotic enough to give them money... That's basically it

[@kaliban4758]

well to some flerfs the "reason" why the "true" shape of the earth is being hidden from every one, is to get people away from "God"

[@phxgen]

HAHA @ "intellectulol"

[@queuenickpuemmel]

Your comment is so pathetic it clearly shows you're taking expert bullshit for granted and didn't even did your research.

[@fountbrooks2997]

🎯

[@MissionControl-dk]

Why are you being so mean to the flat earthers? You're not even giving them the slightest chance of explaining this. You're not being fair at all. Wink wink 😉

[@Wolfie6020]

I am just happy to be back in Perth after weeks of cloudy skies in Sydney and the USA. One of my corporate jobs was based in Perth flying people up to the mines in Western Australia. I literally never saw a cloud for the first few months. Perth weather is mostly fabulous.

[@MightyMattTM]

Get dunked on Flerfs. That’s about as conclusive of evidence as you can get right there. Impossible on a flat earth.

[@randomflerfstrawmanandnons1658]

Nothing is impossible when ones cult religion depends on it being possible. Just check out all the desperate flerfs in these comments alone.

[@sthurston2]

04:56 is a shot of the camera on the beach which shows beautifully the difference between winter and summer Sun angles. The gently sloped beach is like Winter and is clearly darker than the steep bank that is like Summer. It isn't a shadow as you can see the shadows from the sea weed. The relative darkness of the beach sand is because the light and heat of the Sun is being spread out over a much bigger area. . The angle of shot relative to the Sun means the sea is at such a shallow angle it looks like it is all in shadow like the beach but more so. The bright wide and long reflection of the Sun glare on the sea shows it is a gently undulating surface rather than high waves.

[@StringerNews1]

And once again, zooming fails to bring back anything that's already beyond the horizon.

[@Justwantahover]

They are so bad that they will say that if you had a more powerful lens then it "will" be brought back (regardless how powerful the existing lens happens to be). Pathetic!

[@wiggles7976]

@@Justwantahover You could bring the Hubble telescope down to the beach and they'd still complain that only if you had bit more zoom, you'd be able to see the whole lighthouse.

[@Sherwoody]

@@wiggles7976 you could bring one of the Keck telescopes from Mauna Kea and it ain’t bringing it back.

[@StringerNews1]

I'd like bleu cheese dressing please.

[@wiggles7976]

@FlatEarthStigma What is "the angle at which the water meets the sky"?

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

*The @Kenneth Weiss Rules* 1. _"Basic geometry only applies if it has been done from space while some one doing the basic geometry is physically in space to see the earth as a ball"_ Since we cannot see the something basic like a house in it's entirety on the ground, we cannot even measure a house until we can see the house from above. This means using a drone and removing the roof and separating the floors. In a nutshell, geometry can't be used on Earth to measure Earth because you can't see Earth in it's entirety first to measure and apply geometry. You might ask yourself, how we're supposed to measure from the drone view or from space (there's another rule on cameras but I'm being kind by eliminating it). Kenny isn't clear on that, but in the end it doesn't matter because of #2. 2. _"Calculations are not measurements"_ Say goodbye to construction and surveying just to name a few. We cannot calculate square footage or acreage because those use calculations and that's not measurements. Farwell alcohol by volume, miles per hour, and body mass index, you will be missed. And yes this was done as a new comment to support Kenny's hide and seek adventures with the reply button.

[@david_akerman]

re calculations, it's worse than that. The metre is defined as a calculation. So not only can't you use area calculations, you can use simple linear measurements either. This "calculations aren't measurements" thing seems to be common also flerfs, none of whom realise that pretty much all measurements are calculations also -I can't even think of one that isn't - and that it doesn't matter since calculations are based on definitions or mathematical proofs anyway they can be 100% relief upon. Poor flerfs.

[@david_akerman]

Now he's claiming that Haversine is something to do with visual limits. He's beyond clueless.

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

@@david_akerman He's claimed so many nonsense things it's hard to keep track, especially with his inability to consistently find the reply button. I might be confusing him with someone else but I think he tried to claim we can't the curve calculator was really just perception and refraction, even though perception is counter what would happen and refraction is included in the Earth curve calculations. Of course then he'll hand wave it all away by saying he doesn't really know anything, except that Earth curve is wrong.

[@david_akerman]

@@NinjaMonkeyPrime I don't remember that one, but as you say his inability to comment or quote properly makes it difficult to see WTF he is saying. He's both said that Haversine doesn't work and that pilots so to refuel, and that it does work. He seems to make it up as he goes along.

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

@@david_akerman I haven't found his comment on haversine yet but I'm not sure I really should. I mean, does haversine fail due to visual limits on a basketball too? I'm pretty sure he's just trolling. His "making it up as he goes along" can only be explained by someone who sits there and thinks while giggling "okay, what I can say now that will get them to reply"?

[@tonyclif1]

Make a prediction, test the hypothesis, data matches prediction - perfect result unless, as a flerf, you just know that an unsubstantiated opinion trumps anything and everything the data shows!

[@rindordrums]

Zoomed in from the sandy beach. A perfect view of curved water. Thanks, Wolfie.

[@mjpdeboer]

can u point me in the movie curved water?

[@rindordrums]

@@mjpdeboer Sure... at 5:18 - You're on the low point here on the beach. The lighthouse is on the low point 20.03 km away. The high point is the top edge of the water in between. Thus, the water is higher in the middle than at either of the two land points. High enough to obscure the land the lighthouse is sitting on. That's curved water on a round planet. You're looking at it.

[@rindordrums]

@@Ritesh_Patra Complicate it any way you like. Look again... 5:18 The ocean is curved to match the shape of the earth. Therefore the ocean obscures the other land point. I stand by my comment.

[@r.foshee1578]

Curved Water on the surface of a lake!! lol what has happened to humanity?

[@sakilele]

you need some doctor visit asap@@rindordrums

[@markcaesar4443]

Geez, Wolfie, are you using the fabled P900 to dispel the Flat Earth?

[@Wolfie6020]

I love the irony...

[@arctic_haze]

@@Wolfie6020 If you used a P900, you would be able to zoom up the Black Swan 🐦

[@dietermeyer9231]

@@arctic_haze: They do have black swans in Perth. It is in the category "birds" and subcategory "duck-family".

[@arctic_haze]

@@dietermeyer9231 Yep. Exactly 🔭

[@maxwellshammer5283]

@@Wolfie6020 Now show the flerfs how to focus it on a planet and a star, because they sure can’t seem to figure that out.

[@tjjones621]

I will pay any flerf $20M if they show us the Flatearth map they use to find the lighthouse and verify the distances.

[@chrisantoniou4366]

Of course they would also have to show that every other distance, shape, and measurement were also accurate.

[@tjjones621]

@@chrisantoniou4366 I think our money is safe. :)

[@OzFPVflyer]

In an ideal world this would be evidence enough of a non flat world. What do we see and understand that the flat earthers don't?

[@mrxmry3264]

Evidence that destroys their religion.

[@petergaskin1811]

What is plain to see in front of our eyes.

[@randalscott7224]

Everything.

[@Kris_M]

"What do we see and understand"? -> reality

[@Sherwoody]

3D

[@dietermeyer9231]

What would Phuket Word say about this? It is all about "the perception of perspective".

[@Wolfie6020]

Poor Nick is a shell of his former self. He used to strut over to my channel regularly back in 2016, 2017 and post numerous comments. Now he is afraid to show his face here and won't even respond when I post on his channel. He knows I'll challenge him to a debate again so he stays quiet.

[@petergaskin1811]

And, as we all know, "perception is truth".

[@dietermeyer9231]

@@Wolfie6020: And in a debate you would nail his "sitting equipment" to the wall.

[@Ozzpot]

Using their P900 against them? 😱

[@ReValveiT_01]

Yes, their P900's who's CMOS CCD sensor was invented by the flerfs biggest enemy : NASA. They cry when I tell them.

[@RayleighCriterion]

Hardly

[@Lucky-13-Thirteen]

@@RayleighCriterion it’s 2023. Grow up, your embarrassing yourself.

[@fepeerreview3150]

4:44 A very nice, smooth zoom ... What a treat it is to see what a P900 can do in the hands of someone who knows how to use it.

[@rutlandberry2588]

Flerfs don't need no stinking user manual!

[@MartinWillett]

Not bad, if you haven't got a P1000.

[@ReValveiT_01]

Flerfs already know everything there is to know about everything. They were born with all knowledge - no education required. Education is all lies. Only Sheeple believe in focus rings and tripods.

[@MartinWillett]

@FlatEarthStigma Do you know what any of those words mean?

[@MartinWillett]

@FlatEarthStigma Because I have seen it. I have also challenged the shape of the earth whilst breaking the law, not under the supervision of a NASA employee. I know the shape of the earth.

[@ufo-bro532]

Flat earthers need to take up a surveyors course to bring their minds to reality

[@mrxmry3264]

No point. They won't be able to understand what they see. And even if they did, their indoctrination would kick in hard, making them reject anything that contradicts their religion.

[@Alysm-Aviation]

I`ve been offering flatties to teach them how to fly for years... guess how many ended up taking me up on my offer

[@dietermeyer9231]

@@Alysm-Aviation: My guess would be "none". What did I win?

[@Alysm-Aviation]

@@dietermeyer9231 one claimed he was interested, but as soon as I tried to organise anything, he dropped off the radar.

[@IncredibleTOPCast]

Funny that I once said the very same thing. Any flat earther can ask surveyors about Earth's curvature in relation to cables along the sea floor.

[@maxwellshammer5283]

But….but…..compression, optical drop,…er….vanishing point, angle of attack,…um…perspective….curved eyeballs….Rayleigh Criterion…..

[@ReValveiT_01]

"Compression perspective angles", according to Gary Whybother.

[@SebiBubble]

I think you forgot refraction

[@iandobbin8068]

Wow, so easy. To quote a wise man, "Hardly an inconvenience" 👍

[@sueneilson896]

Saw you filming this video from the cyclepath. Keep up the good work! Fighting stupidity, ignorance and misinformation one blow at a time.

[@Wolfie6020]

Thanks. Next time yell out "Hi Wolfie" and I'll put in the video. :-)

[@whereswa11y]

@@Wolfie6020 Oh you so should have. Wolfie would have LOVED it to bits. As would I.

[@whereswa11y]

Next time say "HI WOLFIE" .

[@queuenickpuemmel]

Your stupidity, ignorance and misinformation keeping you away from feeling embarrassed like waking up naked in school and get lauded at. Typical globetard trolling

[@queuenickpuemmel]

@@oldmusician5236 no not really. I meant what I stated

[@StraightOuttaPaddock]

probably nothing will convince them anyway but great job!

[@chrisantoniou4366]

True, but it might convince some who were thinking of taking the plunge into the rabbit hole...

[@diverdannavyvet9672]

I actually entered the FED chat this morning and asked if anyone could explain the purpose and function of 'schuler tuning' in a submarine's inertial navigation system. There were no takers on my question. Have I found another proof of a globe earth that they have no explanation for?

[@cardinalRG]

dbldvr navyvet --Yes, you have. FlatEarthers are deathly afraid of having their claims challenged. As a (retired) flight instructor, I’ve offered a brief, three-question quiz to every flatEarther pretend-pilot I’ve come across and-you guessed it-there’ve been no takers. They've always run away.

[@Alysm-Aviation]

@@cardinalRG please share the questions, always looking to add to my collection of things to ask flat earth "Pilots"

[@cardinalRG]

@@Alysm-Aviation --Well, I’ve never had to actually select the three questions, but had planned to make them about basic aircraft control. Here are a few examples I'd select from: _During recovery from a nose-high unusual attitude, the correct control sequence is pitch then roll. Why is this sequence reversed-roll then pitch--when recovering from a nose-low unusual attitude?_ _In what region of flight will raising the nose cause the aircraft to descend, and lowering the nose cause it to climb? And why does this occur?_ _You’ve parked your Cessna 172 aircraft, and you wish to signal the fuel truck by placing the propeller in the vertical position. Standing in front of the aircraft and facing rearward, why should you turn the propeller only clockwise?_ _In the Northern Hemisphere, when flying into an area of higher pressure, what shift in wind direction are you likely to encounter? What causes this wind shift?_

[@qtruth3217]

@@cardinalRG I’ll do it. Let’s start with sonar you globetard

[@queuenickpuemmel]

Ah ok. So there's a man-made tool in a submarine and therefore the earth is a globe..? What a 1A proof for a globe..NOT!! I can't believe how degenerate globetards are. They really believe every shit blind without research.. typical loser life

[@eleycki]

Excellent. What a shame we have to go to these lengths to ‘prove’ this though!

[@Wolfie6020]

Thanks. It was a nice drive to the beach to watch the Sun set anyway. The Boatshed (A gourmet deli) is down that way so I picked up dinner on the way home.

[@randalscott7224]

@@Wolfie6020 there's always an up side to flattening flerfs.

[@eleycki]

@@Wolfie6020 it looks like a sweet place.

[@shaneeslick]

G'day eleycki, In the Southern Hemisphere we don't have to "go to these lengths to ‘prove’ this though!" as you just wake up, go outside & enjoy Reality🌞🌏🌘🥰, instead of sitting in a dark room hiding while searching for Lies to make you feel good about your lack of intellect 🖥😭.

[@eleycki]

@@shaneeslick not just in the Southern Hemisphere, in the north too by the way.

[@Martial-Mat]

I think that we can all agree that you have demonstrated the government's lighthouse bouncing plot perfectly. ;-)

[@c.augustin]

No, all the people visible are scuba divers so that they don't drown when the lighthouse sinks for the second shot. Or maybe they are just statues nailed to the ground so that they become visible again. Or something along this line … 😜

[@Martial-Mat]

@@c.augustin Ha ha ha!

[@stefanfrankel8157]

The sad thing is, the Classical Greeks figured this all out in Egypt a couple of millennia ago. Talk about not getting the memo.... ;o)

[@throwawayavclubber7269]

If that's a lighthouse, why can't I see the light? Checkmate, globbers!

[@Bnslamb]

Because it's daytime. 😉

[@tjjones621]

The light part is cgi.

[@brettbrewer6091]

That remote desktop is a really cool setup, an interesting thing you could try would be to have you and another individual with a remote desktop setup monitoring the moon simultaneously from a northern hemisphere location and a southern hemisphere location so we could see the differences in orientation of the moon from those differing location.

[@bobsurface908]

Or even just looking at Orion. You could do THAT observation with a decent $30 webcam with a fairly wide angle view.

[@FrenchCrow]

Australian "black swan"! Regular swans are black there, so that's what we expect to observe on our planet. Nicely done again: great observation in perfect conditions (clear weather, low refraction).

[@Sableagle]

" ... and there's a nice Moon." Left side lit? How old is this f- Oh, yeah. Hemisphere. Waxes from the left, there, doesn't it?

[@Wolfie6020]

It was interesting during my recent month in the Northern hemisphere to see how different the orientation was.

[@vimalramachandran]

You could have applied standard refraction just to be a bit more meticulous. Regardless, it is striking how simple observations prove the globe. You gotta give it to the flerfs for making a complete mess out of this.

[@aaronrus]

It doesn’t prove a globe at all. It proves the surface has a curve, that’s it.

[@vimalramachandran]

@@aaronrus Looks like you are a concave earther. Everywhere we look the surface has convexity, not concavity. The only shape where this makes sense geometrically is a sphere. Note that we routinely take photos of the Earth from space and we know it's a globe for certain.

[@misterocain]

This is the demonstrable reality that the likes of YEO has been claiming to seek. Expect him to change sides any time soon assuming he has a modicum of integrity left. Oh wait. The sobering point is that, even without comparing observations to the curve calculator or without any measurements, such footage as this clearly demonstrates that the Earth cannot possibly be flat.

[@my3dviews]

Ya, but why is that lighthouse upside down? 🙃

[@Sherwoody]

You solved the problem. The water was flowin up around the lighthouse because it’s upside down. Amazing observation.

[@shegocrazy]

5:30 Hey Wolfie mate. I reckon if you used the more powerful P1000 it would show the land under the lighthouse thus proving flat earth. ;) ....or maybe not lol

[@daveh9521]

Good, solid and simple work. You covered all the essentials, and you picked the perfect location on a beautiful day. Well done!

[@sweenytwain7095]

🤣🤣🤣

[@LeatherMadeSkateboarder]

Anybody think to check whether or not ole' wolfie here peeked at an elevation map? Think he could've found the one spot on the beach where he could lie, yet again, and be 2 meters below sea level? Hmmm anyone? Tell 'em Wolfie, tell them you deceived them again. Reply

[@daveh9521]

@@LeatherMadeSkateboarder Photograph from two meters below sea level....now that's an interesting concept. Clearly, he's standing at the water's edge, which is sea level, with a straight shot to the lighthouse. So, how would you take a photo from two meters lower without digging a hole on the beach? I just noticed something I didn't see before. I believe Wolfie6020 is in Australia or New Zealand? At the end of the video, he takes a shot of the first quarter moon facing left, toward the setting sun. For me, the same time (different zone), on the same evening, the same moon is facing right - toward the setting sun. How is that? Simple, I'm in New Jersey, USA.

[@LeatherMadeSkateboarder]

@@sweenytwain7095 what do you mean?

[@correctvoltage1655]

Fake P900 footage - it's not out of focus and jumping all over the place!

[@peppermintgal4302]

Please say /s please say /s please say /s

[@MrU4theChillWind]

First??? Hope all's going great, Wolfie!

[@Wolfie6020]

Hi and thanks. Yes all going well here. Nice to be back in Perth for a while.

[@awatt]

Congratulations 🥇

[@shangoddard1289]

Love your work Wolfy!! So jealous of your job & lifestyle hahaha keep ripping the flat earthers nonsense apart mate! Your video's are the best due to the practical nature of them, not many debunkers are as good doing this.

[@Adrobiel]

Love your work, especially debunking them with their own "God of all cameras".

[@gheart8278]

He debunked the globe fool!😉😄

[@Adrobiel]

@@gheart8278 You keep telling yourself that buddy :)

[@gheart8278]

@@Adrobiel go watch his video with your eyes open this time, then go watch the Blu HORIZON video and get back to me clown!😉

[@kennylex]

Hia Wolfie6020, here is a photo and Photoshop small tips that can be useful in a debate with flat-earthers. 1: Mount the camera on a tripod and weight it down with some rocks or bags with sand, then zoom in on a fixed object at the horizon. 2: Now with a remote or a timelapse function you take 25 to 100 photos of the same object. 3: In Photoshop you go to script and find the "Stack Photos", it will put them all in a smart layer, you can also select to align the photos, but it may not be necessary of you have a good tripod. 4: Now select "Mean" as blending and you will get an average of all the photos and you will see the perfect horizon that is not covered be any waves. 5: Flat-Earthers may claim this to be CGI or magick, now you have something you can laugh at for a week. 6: ???? 7: Profit.

[@Wolfie6020]

Thanks I will try that.

[@hiutuber8838]

Great Wolfie6020, but the flat-earthers will never understand these videos. He has too much confusion in his head.

[@jiversteve]

33m good choice of height!

[@Wolfie6020]

33.3... almost.

[@Sherwoody]

One of my favourite wrecks to dive on is sitting in the bottom of Lake Ontario at a depth of 33.3 metres. No one knows when it went down or it’s name. Coincidence…I think not.

[@franciscodesouzaa]

Brazilian flat earthers now say that the atmospheric density is inverted (less dense below, more dense above "because the air below is hotter, and the hotter air is less dense). They want to make an eventual thermal inversion the rule for the entire atmosphere.

[@airscare205]

I love it how you use the magical P900 to kill the flat earth. Dripping with irony. Next time you go out of radar coverage on a flight, it would be interesting to note your distance from the radar head and altitude. I'm sure it would match exactly what we'd expect on a globe.

[@queuenickpuemmel]

Yes an impossible test would exact match on a globe theory. It's common knowledge that globetards don't do exact tests and just talking the same shit they get served by so called experts and scientists XD

[@tonydagostino6158]

And for an added bonus you included clouds illuminated from below. Good job

[@thesunexpress]

@7:00 Not only are you higher in elevation, but also further away from the lighthouse, albeit a small amount further away. The flerfs have yet to come up with an explanation for this actual fact.

[@Sherwoody]

The lighthouse sank in an ocean of flerf tears.

[@tjjones621]

Those weren't tears.... gross. :)

[@Sherwoody]

@@tjjones621 did someone spring a leak? Where’s Dave when you need him.

[@serafinos7119]

Outstanding, educational & awesome debunking of flat earth cult Kudos & thank you 😊

[@philmenzies2477]

Those people are clearly distorted! "Black Swan, Black Swan!"

[@tjjones621]

So, you saw Arjwin's comment... lol

[@Sherwoody]

It can’t be a Black Swan….the lighthouse wasn’t bending.

[@jeanbonnefoy1377]

Not only a lesson on easily debunking flatearth but on how to use a P900 too. Like MrMole in Poland with his amazing astrophotography pics and clips. If I were a Nikon PR guy, I would sue all those flatards for giving a very bad image of their Collpix P range!

[@Alysm-Aviation]

your weather is so much better than the weather at my place.

[@Wolfie6020]

It is beautiful again today. Heading up to Hillarys soon for a coffee and to watch the Sunset.

[@Alysm-Aviation]

@@Wolfie6020 I am getting bugger all flight time in. It doesn't help that CASA messed up my medical, so now I'm grounded till that is sorted out.

[@Wolfie6020]

​@@Alysm-Aviation CASA are ridiculous. They wanted me to do a blood sugar level test two years ago. I went to a specialist and he was scratching his head why they had even asked for it. He said it was not even close to the minimum level for concern. Hope you get it sorted soon. I really only fly on the FAA licence these days but keep the CASA medical current just in case I need to fill in for an Aussie operator.

[@Alysm-Aviation]

@@Wolfie6020 CASA has made my flights painful. And it's always so much money dropped when they ask you to go and do another test and as always the specialist asking what on gods green earth those idiots were thinking. My optamologist is having the worst time with them this time around. None of what he entered is what CASA claims my issues are. All I'm asking for is a class 1 medical.

[@osci08]

its been cold as here in Victoria.

[@apex107lrp]

Defeating flattys' argument is like shooting fish in a barrel...but the fish don't know they're dead.

[@liftingtheveil8361]

How do you explain the Michael Collins photo of the Lunar Module ascending from the moon that has earth in the background? How could earth be visible? You can see the earth is flat at high altitude. High Altitude Video With No fish eye Lens - Hack TV

[@TimeForDunston]

It doesn’t matter, flerfers gonna flerf regardless.

[@azstargazer912]

Well done. Thank you for doing the research and posting.

[@tjwiets6691]

Don't forget there's a lunar eclipse this month (15/16 May, 2022) for those of you in eastern North America, all of South America, the Caribbean or most of Antarctica.

[@JCO2002]

If the Earth were flat lighthouses would only have to be a few metres high and they'd cover the planet.

[@Alysm-Aviation]

Not to mention that they wouldn't be needed since it would always be Day.

[@tjjones621]

@@Alysm-Aviation LOL!

[@IvanSensei88]

The only limitation would be the haziness caused by the atmosphere.... seeing a crisp-clear horizon would be downright impossible, let alone HALF a ship cruising across it.

[@tjjones621]

@@IvanSensei88 I love it when they say, "it only looks curved because light bends". Ok... since it's so unreliable, just look at your map of Earth. It's unaffected by the atmosphere. :)

[@IvanSensei88]

@@tjjones621 refraction and mirages *only* exist when they can use them to justify some FE nonsense, but the moment someone shows ultra-obvious effects of them and how it debunks FE, it suddenly doesn't exist anymore.

[@mikefochtman7164]

Hmmm.... from the lower position, no matter how much you zoom in, the bottom of the lighthouse doesn't come back into view. Gee.... can you imagine that? Great video Wolfie, you take some great IN FOCUS pictures! Better photography than any flerfer!

[@throwawayavclubber7269]

Oh, well, he's using a P900. You can't magically bring the bottom of a lighthouse back into view with the zoom on a P900. You need to use a P1000. That's a lighthouse-grade camera.

[@aarone34]

@CellularEarthReality I agree he's a fraud this very same thing happens on a non-curving flat surface. He's just helping keep people asleep like himself.

[@fepeerreview3150]

Hi Wolfie! I'm just 2:09 into this but I can already see that it is going to be very useful and timely. If you don't mind I'll be using a few screenshots and providing a link to your video. I'm currently working on a peer review of some material from Heath Carmody and Taboo Conspiracy and your video fits in perfectly with that.

[@Wolfie6020]

Hi and please feel free to use anything on my channel.

[@fepeerreview3150]

@@Wolfie6020 😃

[@whereswa11y]

@@fepeerreview3150 Or mine. The keys are yours.

[@fepeerreview3150]

@@whereswa11y Thanks!

[@earthervsearther5978]

I'm afraid it's not going to be useful because the horizon does not move in and out as you move lower and higher , it would only move in and out on a sphere with gravity if gravity was real that is

[@mymumbakescakes]

Well I have not said this for a while... but I know you liked it last time I said it.... Bad Flerfs, bad flerfs, what ya gonna do? what ya gonna do when wolfie comes for you.

[@tjjones621]

QueueNick - 7 minutes ago [June 4, 2022] @TJ Jones "I use Google earth" Another one bites the dust...

[@WillRennar]

"You dare use my own tools against me, Glober!?" - The FE community paraphrasing Snape right now

[@TriggeredLimey]

Some very nice work, with some extremely beautiful scenery. Nice one, mate.

[@user-uu7nt9to5e]

Greetings from Russia dear Wolfie6020. You have great videos that always cause a violent reaction from obscurantists))

[@Wolfie6020]

Спасибо, мой друг. Они расстраиваются из-за такого наблюдения.

[@user-uu7nt9to5e]

@FlatEarthStigma With a zoom, this is how it should happen. And if you tilt the camera down, the water level will rise even more! Think about it!

[@yellowlynx]

I actually done the derivation of the equation to calcuate hidden portion of distance target based on Earth's radius, line of sight distance and observer's elevation. The derivation is not straightforward, but with knowledge of trigonometry and geometry, and some patience it can be done and coded in Excel. You can ask me for the Excel file.

[@meeborggp9055]

So the combined height is 33 meters? Coincidence?

[@sweenytwain7095]

Exactly! Free Mason garbage

[@wallyman292]

I'm still waiting for FE'rs to explain just how "perspective" manages to make things disappear from the bottom up, and/or how increasing your viewing height while keeping the distance the same somehow makes things that have disappeared suddenly come back into view!

[@tomfromamerica8042]

Ask Gary Wybenga in particular for that explanation. He's the flerfer community's lead expert on "perspective", since he can see things disappear from the bottom up even when they don't. He also sees unicorns, has milk and cookies with Santa Claus every Thursday and on a clear day he can see forever! 👀 🤣🤣🤣

[@gowdsake7103]

Fleurspective is their biggest lie

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

@@tomfromamerica8042 Gary just posted too. _"Gowbeez reinterpreted/hijacked FOV compression perspective into their imaginary curve"_

[@RayleighCriterion]

Well that was explained back in 1896, didn't you get the memo?

[@williamgallop9425]

The man in the canoe is a paid actor. 😉

[@tomfromamerica8042]

Thank you for the excellent imagery and the spot on analysis. I'm planning on releasing a new video that features a clip from your earlier video which Gary Wybenga used to "show" something he calls, the "Vanishing Zone". With your permission, I'd like to use clips from this video for a follow-up video. I think it will leave Gary with pellets of poop in his pants! 😁

[@Wolfie6020]

Hi Tom, yes please feel free to use anything from my channel.

[@fepeerreview3150]

Hi Tom. How's it going? I look forward to your upcoming videos. I gave your recent one a boost on my small channel. Hopefully it sent some views your way.

[@tomfromamerica8042]

@@fepeerreview3150 , I did finish that video and posted it a few months ago. I forgot to announce it at the time. Sorry for the delay. (I was going through a lot personal stuff at the time.) If you're still interested, here's the link, Gary Wybenga Teaches the "Vanishing Zone" kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHvOhZupr9Gii7s

[@Ozzpot]

I always wonder what is in their minds, if anything, when they look at something like the scene at 4:10. The terrain is clearly beyond the horizon. How can they claim the horizon is the "perspective vanishing point" when that which is beyond it has obstinately failed to vanish?

[@antondovydaitis2261]

The entire purpose of Flat Earth is to test how resistant someone can be made to evidence and reason. The ultimate goal is a population that cannot be swayed from their beliefs by any means.

[@Martial-Mat]

The amount of effort they put into being so wrong and trying to retard the whole planet is truly dismaying.

[@Ozzpot]

@@antondovydaitis2261 I agree. In that way, they are guilty of creating what they claim to destroy.

[@robguyatt9602]

They can claim anything. There's no rationale to their claims but it works for them.

[@alt1579]

"I always wonder what is in their minds" A light breeze. Some tumbleweeds.

[@crowxe]

The clarity of the waterline obscuring the light house really shows the spherical nature of our earth. PS: I loved WW but kinda hated the ending

[@Wolfie6020]

Two more episodes to go... Maybe tomorrow.

[@crowxe]

@@Wolfie6020 I hope you're enjoying it. Let me know what you think about it when it finishes

[@mittelwelle_531_khz]

At 2.10 Wolfie uses Walter Bislin's wonderful "Advanced Earth Curvature Calculator" (AECC) to calculated the "hidden amount" of some target objects. (Actually he calculates the visible amount but if you know the total target height one is as good as the other.) To all of you who want to keep their brain trained in mental arithmetic, here is a way how you can do this in metric units and with operations relatively easy to do without using a pocket calculator: Start with the observer height in centimeter (cm) (1) Divide by 2 (2) Take square root (3) Again divide by 2 (4) (see below - nothing to do for a rough estimate not considering refraction) (5) Subtract intermediate result from target distance in kilometer (km) (6) (see below - nothing to do for a rough estimate not considering refraction) (7) Multiply by 2 (8) Square (9) Multiply by 2 again Result is amount hidden in centimeter (cm). Now what about step (4) and (6)? The major use - if I do it that way - is to include refraction in the following way (4) Increase value by 10% (6) Decrease value by 10% Here a practical example for 2 meter (= 200 cm) observer height and 20 km target distance: (1) -> (2) .... (9) as rough estimate not considering refraction: 200 -> 100 -> 10 -> 5 -> 15 -> 30 -> 900 -> 1800 (results 18 meter hidden, AECC = 17.5 m) ... (4) -> (5) -> (6) ... considering refraction: ... 5 -> *5.5 -> 14.5 -> 13.05* -> ... (results in 13.6 meter hidden, same as AECC) Three more notes: 1. It is obvious the above formula is derived from the "infamous 8 inches per mile squared" which is accurate within a few percent up to more than 100 miles, i.e. "good for most practical target distances" . 2. The metric variant "8 cm per km squared" is a little bit less accurate at close distances but holds a bit longer for far distances (if you set an acceptable error margin within a few percent, which is usually much better than the error bars you get anyway as you can only estimate refraction). 3. You can improve the metric variant by adding/subtracting 1% in steps (4) and (6), i.e. ... (4) -> (5) -> (6) ... .. -> *5.05 -> 14.95 -> 14.80* -> ... (results in 17.5, same as AECC) Here is a spreadsheet which calculates the accuracy of the above compared to AECC for combinations of observer height and target distance:: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fsF-jT5JwQzZyeYtowDPqYcNpLiXEGtS7dY_lR3L52w/edit?usp=sharing You can add more tests but be sure to understand you always need to copy&paste TWO lines which you then modify. in the yellow and orange cells. Furthermore here I have a presentation explaining the background in a bit more detail, including my way to approximate square roots and squares. docs.google.com/presentation/d/12YXkVp_0ggrDUC9L1plsI57b1Wb6lAOa5x270-12q7c/edit?usp=sharing I hope the above links pass through Wolfie's comment filter or I am still in the white list. (Sadly I have lost Wolfie's PM so I can't ask.) -- Martin PS: If someone is interested to explain some of his or her personal tricks and techniques for doing mental arithmetic (and especially taking square roots and square) in our ALoOB live stream, contact me via PM. I want to make these things the topic of a future show, as we don't want that knowledge to become forgotten as everybody uses electronic calculators meanwhile. Note that - along the lines of the name chosen for the show - we have an "entry age" of 65 years (or more) to accepted you as our guest :-( ... but occasionally we make exceptions :-) Use the contact address is in my KZbin home page.

[@Bnslamb]

I'm surprised this comment is approved by KZbin.

[@mikep9604]

@@Bnslamb A few days ago I tried to post a comment about flight data that includes a lot of numeric data, and the comment disappeared soon.

[@Bnslamb]

@@mikep9604 Especially replies are difficult now. A month ago, I could post a KZbin link in a reply, but not anymore. Even innocent reply with no bad words can be hidden by KZbin. I have to rephrase my reply to get it through. Very often I have to open the video in a private window (without logging in) to be sure my reply is approved.

[@Bnslamb]

@@mikep9604 And sometimes, when a person replies to you, you can see his reply in your notification, and you can reply to him there, but his reply is hidden in the comment section under the video. It's a mess.

[@mikep9604]

@@Bnslamb Yes, I noticed this same thing and I can't put any links to my comments. If I try the comment will never appear.

[@graysmith9496]

Superb demonstration that we live on a globe Wolfe.

[@Timbo6669]

They’ll just say that because you’re in Perth, being close to the ice wall, refracts light upwards (or downwards?). Hence the effect of a curve.

[@dietermeyer9231]

I have been to Perth, Rotnest Island and Freemantle many years ago (2005 and 2006). Walking around in the bush, spectating some crazy car-drivers going fast on gravel-roads. I think they called it WRC...

[@John.0z]

Nah... that's just normal Aussie drivers on the (plentiful) dirt roads in the outback. ;-)

[@michaeldunlavey6015]

Nice work, Wolfie. Small point: What was the water temperature, and what was the air temperature at various heights? That drives the refraction. You showed no refraction, but FEers are in the habit of maximizing refraction and then denying it. Again, nice work.

[@volcanoimage]

Flat Earthers keep running away because they know they are just trolling FE. At 3 min 48 sec mark destroys the flat Earth. A clear and distinct crisp horizon at 5 min 26 sec is clear globe proof. Excellent footage! In fact I will be in a perfect position to do the same thing here soon on Lake Erie. The temps of the water and air would be the same thus reducing refraction perfect for watching boats go over the horizon (We all know that flerfs like to photograph distant objects when refraction is the greatest)

[@queuenickpuemmel]

Blablabla XDXD You dont believe the shit yourself you are talking about, do you? XDXD You must be really lomely

[@jaimevivesp]

"they know they are just trolling" Some are trolls, but others seem like "legitimate" flat earthers: they have such crazy backgrounds, that no troll would go to such extremes of posturing just for trolling purposes.

[@volcanoimage]

@@jaimevivesp I consider about 98% of flat Earthers as trolling. If some really believe earth is flat I put the burden of proof on them.

[@queuenickpuemmel]

@@volcanoimage as if someone cares what you're considering.. you can't even proof the earth is a globe XDD

[@queuenickpuemmel]

@@jaimevivesp It must be great to life in a fantasy world full of colorful candies, unicorns and soap bubbles. Not using brain, no conciousness nor logical thinking. Candyworld at its best. You can tell its real because it looks so fake ;)

[@Petey194]

Let the silence begin

[@tjjones621]

I wish...

[@Bunny99s]

It should be noted that the lower position is actually CLOSER to the lighthouse. Since FEs always claim "Ohh you can only see so far and that's why something is not visible anymore". Here we actually move a bit closer to the object but just go down in elevation and we see less. By the same logic: Moving further away and up in elevation makes us see MORE. Increasing distance will not prevent you from seeing something, it just gets smaller with distance and with a strong enough zoom you can always bring it back into view. However when something is obstructed by something, like the round earth, you can not "zoom it back" because there would be no direct line of sight. Yes, there are those cases where refraction allows light to sort of "bend" but those images are usually highly distorted (black *cough* swan). They never even gave any sensible explanation for why things disappear bottom-up if they claim things disappear due to distance. And no, all those laughable attemts using fresnel lenses and cherry pick an angle that somewhat gives you your desired result doesn't cut it. If they would even take the time to figure out how a fresnel lens works and how light moves, but I guess that's way beyond their comprehension. Anyways, it's another beautiful and strong piece of evidence. Thanks for your efford.

[@sweenytwain7095]

It's closer to the water too.🥴

[@mad_gamer6576]

Well done. Unfortunately, reality does not compute with flerfs, so they will ignore this.

[@diverdannavyvet9672]

Hi Wolfie. New subscriber here. Bob the science guy mentioned your expertise in aviation and debunking of flat earth silliness. I'm already enjoying your videos.

[@Wolfie6020]

Thanks and welcome. As you saw in FED when you ask them genuine questions they have no answers. I am blocked on many Flat Earth channels for asking them to show me a flight plan based on an alternative to the globe. The Equinox is another good one they can never explain.

[@61066clocks]

When The science predicts what You will observe and that is what You observe there is no argument..Great work.....But As You know You are dealing with flerfoholics and they are drunk on flatness..lol

[@Hartmannspielt]

One thing I understood immediately after reading this thread: If your brain is, say, "curved," you will think the earth is flat.

[@Dan_C604]

Great video as always, Wolfie. I still remember the old salt who taught me to sail. The aids for navigation like the lighthouses were built to be seen from sea level while navigating. They knew how earth worked and even the tiny top of light was the only thing necessary to work as a guide. That’s why the navigation charts tell you at what distance you will be able to see the light.

[@swinde]

I am pretty sure that light from lighthouse is visible for quite a distance from the light itself can be observed. You would need a very dry, still atmosphere (over water!) to block the rays of light from extending over the curve.

[@LeatherMadeSkateboarder]

Anybody think to check whether or not ole' wolfie here peeked at an elevation map? Think he could've found the one spot on the beach where he could lie, yet again, and be 2 meters below sea level? Hmmm anyone? Tell 'em Wolfie, tell them you deceived them again. Reply

[@Earthislife1031]

I have made similar observations here in Hawaii look from Nimitz Beach to Waikiki. Flat earthers seem to hate when there is no mirage or distortion because they can't argue about the atmosphere creating the obstruction.

[@primonomeultimonome]

But then they come up with some perspective nonsense for things disappearing bottom-up, basically implying that perspective behaves like upward refraction.

[@theplanetruth]

What a fucking lie. Proximate looming, or sinking is a refraction phenomenon producing obstruction without mirage. I’ve been saying this to you for over two years.

[@everybodylovesballs]

Mauna Kea on the big island would be such a great place to record/measure the sun and the horizon below horizontal.

[@guyfournier]

Thanks so much for another great video. The P1000s are completely out of stock now😩

[@bunnykiller]

the only hard part about this was getting there, otherwise it was simple, precise, and accurate. And most importantly, it matched the model.