A Pilot's Perspective: The Operational Quirks Of Los Angeles International Airport

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@russvan9683
@russvan9683 2 ай бұрын
As an LAX based pilot, this was a really well done video. Everything was accurate. I tell people LAX is possibly the best airport in the world for the pilots, and possibly the worst for passengers. For pilots, the weather is consistent, and the procedures very easy and predictable, and despite its size, significant ATC delays are unusual. For the passengers however it is a nightmare to drive to, parking is expensive, the terminals are not easy to walk between, the terminals are too small with not enough seating or food options, and the security areas are generally too small with very long lines
@michaelhall9138
@michaelhall9138 2 ай бұрын
I spent 24 years of my ATC career working LA TRACON. It was the most fun I had working airplanes. I got to work the busiest hour LAX had, or ever will have. Two of us (my coworker had the 24's & I had the 25's) put down 135 airplanes in that hour. As I had the bulk of the traffic (about 95 of those 135), I had both 25’s and 24L; I just had to find someone to follow who was landing on 24R. I was busier than a one-armed paper hanger, but it sure was fun! We worked more airplanes per position than any other TRACON. We were working about 2400 operations per day on 4 positions. Things changed a bit before I retired when someone in their infinite wisdom decided arrivals needed to be split from departures due to the length of time needed for certification. Arrivals took about 2 years and departures took about one. Splitting didn’t help, in fact, lengthened the time to certify on departures. 'Twas a great career and 12 years later I’m still looking for the adrenaline rush I would get working the rush!
@KuostA
@KuostA 2 ай бұрын
can you please elaborate and clarify what you're talking about here>? "arrivals needed to be split from departures due to the length of time needed for certification. Arrivals took about 2 years and departures took about one. Splitting didn’t help, in fact, lengthened the time to certify on departures." as I have no idea what you mean. please explain this in layman's terms.
@michaelhall9138
@michaelhall9138 2 ай бұрын
We had 4 radar positions; basically a north arrival position worked the arrivals from the north and west, the north departure position worked the departures going north and west, the south arrival position worked the arrivals that came straight-in from the east and the arrivals that came in from south of the airport & the south departure position worked the departures going south and northeast. One needed to be certified on all 4 radar positions and the arrival positions were the most difficult and took longer. The north arrival position we called Stadium (for Dodger Stadium) and we called the south arrival position Downey ( for the city of Downey). Stadium worked a total of 4 inbound routes & Downey had 5 routes. Due to where LAX is geographically, Downey got about 75ish percent of the traffic, same with the departure sectors; most went south & northeast. It’s just easier to separate departing traffic than arriving. Think of it as cars arriving & departing at a sporting stadium. There are multiple exits going different directions, but only a few entrances (and parking spots) to the parking area.
@KuostA
@KuostA 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelhall9138 ahhh I see, thanks for breaking it down properly! appreciate that! I thought u were being sarcastic when u said "someone in their infinite wisdom" lol. Makes sense now. very coool, what are u doing now?
@michaelhall9138
@michaelhall9138 2 ай бұрын
Enjoying retirement! No more shift work, no more working holidays and no more bidding days-off (though I was senior enough to get what I wanted). Now, we babysit our two grandkids 2 or 3 days a week. I still miss the challenge and adrenaline rush, though I paid for it with what I call Controllers Disease. Had my cardiac event and a double bypass 5 1/2 years after I was fired/retired. We’re forced to stop working airplanes at 56. I figured a little while ago that just under 10% of the controllers I worked with for at least 10 years died of heart attacks within 5-7 years of retirement. I still haven’t figured out if the work stress caused the heart attacks or the lack of the stress caused them. Personally, I loved the stress!
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like the final scene of Pushing Tin. 👍🏻
@reichenyoo597
@reichenyoo597 2 ай бұрын
As an Angelino, it always shows true love if you offer to pick up or send someone in or out of LAX. But it's an incredible airport!
@marcmcreynolds2827
@marcmcreynolds2827 2 ай бұрын
Pro Tip 1: There's often a BIG difference between traffic on the upper and lower levels, especially with time-of-day. So on a recent morning when the upper level was clogged with departing business travelers -- maybe thirty minutes to get around the loop depending on how clever one is with lane selection -- I headed for the near-empty lower level (few arrivals early in the morning), dropped kiddo off at the Arrivals curb for his terminal, and in less than a minute he was up an escalator or elevator to where he needed to be. Pro Tip 2: The Sepulveda Tunnel used to be the secret passage for getting into LAX quickly from the south, but lately you can spend a half-hour on just the transition loop into the airport after you've finally made it through the tunnel. If you opted not to take Century Blvd and are now facing nothing but brake lights as you are about to enter the tunnel, move to the left lane which usually moves much faster with through traffic. But not to cut over to the right lanes at the last minute, as some discourteous/desperate drivers do. That would just put you on the uber-slow transition loop anyway. Instead, continue north on Sepulveda to the first right turn (W 98 St), and go east on it until a right turn onto Avion Dr. Right ahead of you will be a traffic signal for a right turn onto Century, just before the airport entrance and minus most of the backed up traffic on Sepulveda or Century. In heavy traffic, those three right turns can be much quicker than one "left" into the airport via the transition loop.
@IlIlIlIlIlIlIlIl-v9h
@IlIlIlIlIlIlIlIl-v9h 2 ай бұрын
The metro extension will really improve things.
@stankythecat6735
@stankythecat6735 2 ай бұрын
I have a beach house at marina del Rey. It’s the BEST plane spotting. At night you can see the Jets all in a row for landing all the way to Ontario. The lights glitter in an endless line. The departures often go out over the ocean and I get amazing views. I love the a 380 departures
@noob.168
@noob.168 2 ай бұрын
Every major airport has long line of jets landing. You spent all your money on the beach house that well be swept instead of traveling. 💀
@stankythecat6735
@stankythecat6735 2 ай бұрын
@@noob.168 oh child … LOL. That’s my beach house . I have a loft in NYC , a farm house in saint remy de Provence, a house in the Hollywood hills , and I’m building a town house in Chelsea NYC. Trust me … I travel. A lot. Also , the beach house in Marina del Rey is at the highest point on the peninsula. It’s going to be there long after I’m dead. You worry about you. I’ll pay some one to worry about me.
@Gusearth
@Gusearth 2 ай бұрын
@@stankythecat6735 oh you're in a DIFFERENT tax bracket lmao
@stankythecat6735
@stankythecat6735 2 ай бұрын
@@Gusearth you have no idea! I’m a dual citizen of USA and CANADA. I pay taxes in both counties. It’s fucking brutal.
@westhavenor9513
@westhavenor9513 2 ай бұрын
@@noob.168 The 99% being envious of the 1% :)
@JorySandusky
@JorySandusky 2 ай бұрын
Bonus points for referencing May Gray and June Gloom! Spoken like a local!
@boatlover1875
@boatlover1875 Ай бұрын
Previously lived in Torrance many years ago and San Diego ten years ago. May Gray was a new one for me.
@vivamia
@vivamia 2 ай бұрын
I love being a pilot based at LAX. The airport arrivals and departures go so smoothly and it doesn’t suffer from severe weather like other airports around the country.
@whitelobster1ify
@whitelobster1ify 2 ай бұрын
Does LAX get heavy marine layer fog like other airports up the coast? I know SBA can get pretty socked in during the summer months.
@vivamia
@vivamia 2 ай бұрын
@@whitelobster1ify yes. It does get a marine layer but it’s not an issue really. The past week it was pretty foggy in the mornings and night time. Almost had to do an auto land but Rvr’s picked up to 6000 feet.
@KuostA
@KuostA 2 ай бұрын
@@vivamia how are u liking your career and life? honestly.
@marcmcreynolds2827
@marcmcreynolds2827 2 ай бұрын
​@@whitelobster1ify "get heavy marine layer fog?" One morning the A380 I was a passenger on from Melbourne landed in decent conditions on 24L, but by when we finished braking the fog so thick that we sat for ten minutes, hogging the runway while a tug was dispatched to tow us in. The pilots couldn't see the side demarcations for the runway well enough to feel comfortable with taxiing.
@whitelobster1ify
@whitelobster1ify 2 ай бұрын
@@marcmcreynolds2827 That's crazy. Also sucks to fly all the way from Australia only to sit and wait for a tug!
@KQPianos_music
@KQPianos_music 2 ай бұрын
As an Angelina, if you offer to pickup or drop off someone at LAX. You’re either a true friend of theirs of family. But I always loved filming departures at Imperial Hill and arrivals at the In n Out. It’s an amazing airport
@erikrubino9134
@erikrubino9134 2 ай бұрын
My closet airport is Ontario but I will do everything in my power to avoid Lax like going to vegas.
@Suhhhhhhhhhhhhduuuuuuude
@Suhhhhhhhhhhhhduuuuuuude 2 ай бұрын
As an LAX based pilot at one of the 'big 3' airlines, I specifically avoid building my schedule out of LAX and prefer our 'satellite' bases such as SNA, ONT, etc. As previously mentioned, the airport weather is consistent, and procedures very predictable, however I sometimes have to show up 30 minutes to an hour before my sign in time due to the location of employee parking and traffic getting from the lot to the terminal. Besides my personal issues with commute times to and from LAX, it is an easy airport to operate in and out of, and ATC in the socal area as a whole are world class.
@ymcairedellbball
@ymcairedellbball 2 ай бұрын
When I lived in SoCal, I avoided flying in and out of LAX whenever possible, opting for SNA instead when I could, which was often because I was flying domestic.
@erikrubino9134
@erikrubino9134 2 ай бұрын
I do ontario, vegas or burbank. I avoid LAX at all cost also
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 2 ай бұрын
Nice video. I have two more things to add to this. For about a year now, when the weather is good, they will clear you for “the approach” for a certain runway (yes at 50 miles out). But they don’t say which kind of approach. This way, the pilot can pick if he or she wants to do an ILS or RNAV or even a visual approach. However, when the weather gets worse, they will assign the ILS specifically. Also, after the departure end of 25L/R and 24L/R, between the airport and the ocean, is a piece of grassland with roads, but no houses. This used to be a neighborhood. However, when these old jets started to fly out of LAX back in the 1950s and came over this neighborhood very low, they decided this was unsafe and the government bought all the houses and demolished the neighborhood. The streets were left behind. I believe this is now a nature reservation.
@alicehendricks
@alicehendricks 2 ай бұрын
Interesting - is this an area where one can go planespotting?
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 2 ай бұрын
@@alicehendricks I don’t think it’s a good spot. Now a days, with better performing aircraft, the majority of airplanes would be pretty high in altitude by the time they cross over this.
@KuostA
@KuostA 2 ай бұрын
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 soo that's what that is! surprised LAX hasn't built anymore facilities on that land yet. but they are able to one day then right?
@KuostA
@KuostA 2 ай бұрын
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 and not necessarily true, from dockweiler beach, even further west of it, aircraft are still fantastic to spot from there, and yet they are still even higher by then. the question is, can the public access those old residential roads? ofcourse not,r ight?
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 2 ай бұрын
@@KuostA you have some good questions, which I don’t have the answers to. I fly in and out of LAX all the time, but never went to that area on the ground. Tell you what, now I’m curious. Next time I’m there on an overnight, I’ll get out there and take a look. I thought this has become some kind of nature sanctuary, so it’s probably protected.
@Michael_K_Woods
@Michael_K_Woods 2 ай бұрын
LAX gets a bad rep because most passenger’s experience with it are during the literal most busy times of the year, the holidays. I’ve picked up three different family members on 3 different days in the last week at LAX and it was fine. Traffic was normal.
@ecoRfan
@ecoRfan 2 ай бұрын
The freeway traffic getting in and out, the challenge of getting between terminals, and numerous antiquated facilities certainly are issues. But some terminals (such as United’s terminal 7&8) have been updated more recently and are a pleasant experience to travel to and from. Usually it’s not as prone to heavy delays or weather-related ground stoppages as much as other major airports. It’s getting in and out of there on roads that’s the worst.
@marklnz
@marklnz 2 ай бұрын
@@ecoRfan How recently have you been there? All terminals are now linked both air-side and land-side, meaning you can walk from any terminal to any other without needing to process through security in any direction. *All* the terminals have been updated also, with terminal 3 the most recent to open. Agree that getting in and out by road continues to be the most challenging thing about LAX, but with the introduction of the remote LAXit lot for taxi and rideshare pickups a couple of years ago it got a lot better than it was.
@ecoRfan
@ecoRfan 2 ай бұрын
@@marklnz I’ve heard it’s difficult getting between terminals but it can be done. I was there in October 2022 and only remained in Terminal 7. Some terminals such as 5 are dated while others such as 7 are more up to date.
@marklnz
@marklnz 2 ай бұрын
@@ecoRfan the American Airlines terminals (4 and 5) are probably the most dated but they're not "out of date" as such, just not as newly refurbished as some of the others
@TravellingTechie
@TravellingTechie 2 ай бұрын
I'm operating to LAX on Sunday from LHR, we mostly use the ANJLL4 arrival, with waypoints, such as HAKMN, BCALL, SHTNR, OTOOL, DNERO, CGNEY, SLLRS, GLESN, SALYY, LEMMN, CAANN, amongst others. I was last there about 10 days ago, really foggy, not great trying to get in.
@KuostA
@KuostA 2 ай бұрын
how are you enjoying your life and career, on a serious level?
@TravellingTechie
@TravellingTechie 2 ай бұрын
@@KuostA I love my job. I get to fly all over the world and spend time there doing things. I went to the Singapore Grand Prix a few weeks ago, today I was on a bike ride in LA and had a lunch on the beach. Next month I am playing golf with some friends in Johannesburg. It can be tiring, so you have to manage your rest carefully and some aspects of the job by being away during social events is frustrating, but the rewards can be excellent.
@N1njaSnake
@N1njaSnake 2 ай бұрын
Always a pleasure to travel through there. I only had good experiences throughout dozens of international flights.
@hanj31
@hanj31 2 ай бұрын
LAX is one of my home airports along with Burbank. I fly out of there once a year minimum to Korea to see my parents. 2 runways for take off on the Dockweiler Beach side and 2 runways for landing on the In-n-out side.
@sequoyayosemite2771
@sequoyayosemite2771 2 ай бұрын
What a bliss! Four parallel runways! Chicago is a nightmare...
@descent815
@descent815 2 ай бұрын
Will Chicago wouldn’t be a mess if they actually finish the damn construction
@boatlover1875
@boatlover1875 Ай бұрын
Come on, ORD now has six parallel runways if the winds are cooperating. Plus two crosswinds!
@ralphmtsu
@ralphmtsu 2 ай бұрын
I've flown into and out of LAX a handful of times. I never had a bad experience. I love the departure when flying out over the Pacific and seeing Catalina Island.
@svenmorgenstern9506
@svenmorgenstern9506 2 ай бұрын
I've always found the traffic lights on the taxiways to be, um, interesting. 😊 Other than that, have no issues flying into or out of LAX; typically if I'm flying I start out at ONT or PSP so I don't deal with the ground transit issues. 👋
@ej_tech
@ej_tech 2 ай бұрын
The lack of a train connection is annoying. But then again it is car dependent LA where transit is very disappointing.
@uhhhwhat918
@uhhhwhat918 2 ай бұрын
Trains will start running from the new LAX Transit Center by end of this year or 2025. The APM doesn’t run till 2026 (i think)
@vineetbhagwat4256
@vineetbhagwat4256 2 ай бұрын
I get a chuckle every time you say Los AngeLEEEES
@TheWolfHowling
@TheWolfHowling 2 ай бұрын
Unsurprised the LAX is the largest Origin/Destination airport. As a New Zealander, it seems like the vast majority of flights from Australasia into the US enter through Los Angeles.
@IgnacioMeza-j3x
@IgnacioMeza-j3x 2 ай бұрын
Informative. Great video as always!
@adirisbud1237
@adirisbud1237 2 ай бұрын
would love to see more vids detailing specific airport ops!
@annabethwivell327
@annabethwivell327 2 ай бұрын
I haven’t flown through LAX for many years, but I previously used to have layovers there after long-haul overseas flights. I mostly remember what a hassle it always was getting around the airport, as you had to go outside and take a bus between terminals, while dragging luggage and feeling jet lagged. Hopefully they’ve improved transportation around terminals since then.
@roachtoasties
@roachtoasties Ай бұрын
All the terminals are now connected post security. It's a very long walk from Terminal 1 to Terminal 8 without going outside, but if you want some exercise, it's possible.
@stonebear
@stonebear 2 ай бұрын
LAX right now is a hot mess on the ground, because of Southern California's legendarily infamous traffic. What I'm wondering is just how useful the new transit line will be, and just how much of a pain dragging more than carry-on luggage through everything will be... and what's more if it'll go anywhere useful. At least Atlanta, for all its faults, did transit right; they grafted MARTA right onto the west end of the terminal, where most airports stick the train station on the back of beyond... and then there's Schiphol, which didn't bother putting Metro underneath the airport when they could put a major main-line NS terminal there... that would be like running Amtrak through Dulles, only way better... but then, Americans and their cars... But as for airspace? LAX has an amazing setup. I mean, not only are you cleared for the approach 50 miles out, you *intercept the final approach course* up to THREE HUNDRED miles out... (ANJLL4 from outside DNERO)
@ecoRfan
@ecoRfan 2 ай бұрын
The ground game at and around LAX is certainly not good, with no easy solution to the old sprawl. Even the long range transit plans call for a several seat ride to downtown or Hollywood, and the transit system has a lot to improve with rider safety. Major transit projects cost so much more in the US than anywhere else, especially in expensive coastal regions. But indeed I did notice on approach it felt like the flight descended really fast and the approach route was much faster than other major airports I’ve flown to.
@TimAyro
@TimAyro Ай бұрын
Another LAX pilot here checking in. I agree, well done video. I didn't know about GIGII but it makes sense!
@RayHarrisOfficial
@RayHarrisOfficial 2 ай бұрын
RIP Kobe and Gigi 🙏🏾🤍
@josephcarrasco3673
@josephcarrasco3673 2 ай бұрын
I’m the training representative air traffic controller for “socal approach, LA arrivals area”. OUTSTANDING! I’m recommending that all new controllers to “LA Arrivals” (only 1 part of the the outstanding service “socal approach” provides) watch this as part of their training!
@Mightymax101
@Mightymax101 2 ай бұрын
I love simple flying
@andrewyoung3299
@andrewyoung3299 2 ай бұрын
Flown out of LAX many times, it's so easy. Last time I was there, I was through Customs and Immigration in about 20mins at about 7am after an international flight. It makes my nearest airport look like crap, which it is!
@angelorobel12
@angelorobel12 2 ай бұрын
My parents and I have been to LAX a dozen times. We went there for connection flights from Phoenix to Manila and back using LAX as a stop-over.
@harshmarwah4508
@harshmarwah4508 2 ай бұрын
3:45 simple flying for your kind information few airports have 5 parralel runways like Istanbul,Dallas,Shanghai, Atlanta and Chicago. Many airports feature 4 parallel runways like CDG,ICN,MCO and many more though DEL can be added but it’s one runway is not aligned with other 3 so it cannot fully support operations.
@ericfielding2540
@ericfielding2540 2 ай бұрын
The airside operations of LAX work very smoothly. The hassles of getting to your terminal or getting out of LAX are legendary. The traffic inside the terminal loop is better since they moved the Uber, Lyft, and taxi pickup area to the new "LAXit" site some distance away, but carrying your bags into a shuttle bus is a big hassle until they complete the people-mover. Some years ago, I missed several flights due to it taking almost an hour to travel the last mile or two into the LAX terminal loop, even at times when the rest of the Los Angeles traffic was light. Personally, I will fly from BUR instead of LAX if there is a reasonable way to get to my destination from there.
@DanBowers-yz9ek
@DanBowers-yz9ek 2 ай бұрын
I have flown in and out of LAX for 40 years and I have never had a bad experience Yes there is lots of construction but the results have been more efficient and effective experience.
@omi._.jalalo
@omi._.jalalo 2 ай бұрын
Love LAX
@tavodesaulo9155
@tavodesaulo9155 2 ай бұрын
I ❤ the airport, but the nightmare is to drive in and out of the airport on peak hours 🚗🚙🚕🚓🚕🚙🚗🚓🚕🚙🚗
@sakethvarma5079
@sakethvarma5079 Ай бұрын
Can we get more videos on other airports as well
@LongHaulbySimpleFlying
@LongHaulbySimpleFlying Ай бұрын
Yes! We have ATL and SFO coming in the next few weeks :D
@sakethvarma5079
@sakethvarma5079 Ай бұрын
@LongHaulbySimpleFlying 🤩
@KuostA
@KuostA 2 ай бұрын
..............you were getting east and west directions for the runways mixed up through the video and reversing them (saying east when it was supposed to be west and vice versa)
@boatlover1875
@boatlover1875 Ай бұрын
I always found the employee parking lot used by pilots to park their RVs interesting. I think this has typically been regional and newer pilots.
@johnmaster3748
@johnmaster3748 2 ай бұрын
Are the personnell assigned to these nine crew bases specifically detailed to LAX? Or, more generally, to southern California, so that they also support SNA, ONT, LGB, and BUR?
@aerialbugsmasher
@aerialbugsmasher 2 ай бұрын
As a pilot for one of the "big 3" mentioned, but not based in LAX, I find LAX kinda, meh? Don't hate it, don't love it. I will say I much rather deal with LAX than ORD or JFK/LGA/DCA. It's not terribly hard to get into, or out. Though SOCAL approach can really make things difficult with the speeds at times. Trying to descend on a heavier plane while they're trying to have us slow down significantly at the same time is really hard to pull off at times.
@joshuacaranci5967
@joshuacaranci5967 2 ай бұрын
I was a CFI in SoCal and I always got a kick out of pilots trying to plead with SoCal approach to get a speed reduction after getting told descend via except maintain 300 knots😂
@aerialbugsmasher
@aerialbugsmasher 2 ай бұрын
@@joshuacaranci5967 I mean that's the best case scenario. What I'm talking about is when you're doing nearly 300 in the lower flight levels then they give you a sudden "slow to 210" and an even lower altitude and then they have the gall to say expedite on top of that. Good luck pulling that off in a full A321
@KuostA
@KuostA 2 ай бұрын
@@aerialbugsmasher idle thrust and spoilers wouldn't be sufficient for getting the speed down while in the descent?
@aerialbugsmasher
@aerialbugsmasher 2 ай бұрын
@@KuostA in a fully loaded 321? Lol no. Either you descend or slow down. Off the top of my head it usually takes us about 10 nautical miles to slow down from 300 to 200. 15 or more while in a descent, even with the spoilers out. Or it would have to be a super shallow descent at 500fpm at which point atc may get pissed. You might pull it off at 1000fpm if you're light. 319\320 are not nearly as bad in this regard. Good ATCers will tell us speed first then altitude or vice versa which helps a lot. But many seem to assume we can do both. Which then puts us in the awkward position of having to tell ATC "unable".
@TallerLeanerYoungerwithDrSimon
@TallerLeanerYoungerwithDrSimon 2 ай бұрын
Love this
@bi5048
@bi5048 2 ай бұрын
Had transit here way back in 1997. Plane delayed and had some chaos in the terminal. Didn’t understand what was about though. Luckily flew business class, got prioritized to board the plane and all went smooth. Didn’t get an idea how vast the airport is because only there for transit. If I remember correctly, it was transit from Washington DC before continuing to catch for another flight to Narita. And also if I remember correctly, i flew an airline called Northwest. I think this airline no longer exist.
@georgewyatt2924
@georgewyatt2924 2 ай бұрын
Tough to change terminals. I try to avoid LAX and prefer SFO for west coast connections.
@JoRo-u8u
@JoRo-u8u 2 ай бұрын
At least they're all connected behind security now, but there are some pretty long hikes and few moving walkways.
@TheWidebody747
@TheWidebody747 Ай бұрын
I flew a Piper Cherokee six then a Piper Navajo Chieftan between LAX and Lindberg in San Diego for 3 years. Mixing it up with the big jets in the early eighties was a challenging and satisfying job. Not long after that I was myself flying big jets. It was much easier and less frightening in the jets. LOL
@markswayn2628
@markswayn2628 2 ай бұрын
Flying from across the Pacific, I much prefer to fly into SFO, or increasingly DFW, ORD or JFK than LAX. The LAX passenger experience is poor, immigration is glacial, terminal transfers are slow, much of the infrastructure is dated, public transport options to and from the airport are laughable and there's virtually no decent restaurants or retail outlets. Many Americans are surprised when I rate their airports so poorly, but few of them have used Doha, Singapore or Incheon to undertand that using airports can not only serve a need, they can also be a pleasurable experience.
@marklnz
@marklnz 2 ай бұрын
I suspect it's been a while since you arrived at LAX internationally. I've done it 3 times in the past year, and compared to SFO (which I also passed through immigration at last year), there is really no difference in my experience. LAX has improved out of sight in the past few years from that point of view. I suppose it would also depend on your immigration status - it'll be different if you're a visitor vs if you're a citizen or permanent resident.
@ACxii
@ACxii 2 ай бұрын
Question: What is Los Angeleez?
@jimandmandy
@jimandmandy 2 ай бұрын
SoCal Approach could be the busiest ATC facility in the world. It is the busiest in the US, with on the order of 1000 aircraft at a time in its airspace. In addition to LAX, SAN is also Class Bravo, and not counting many other air carrier airports and almost too many smaller GA airports to count.
@LewisTL95
@LewisTL95 2 ай бұрын
Painful, but mainly because US CPB at this airport is always frustratingly slow. Taxi times are also very long and the airport isn’t very efficiently designed compared to DXB / SIN or even CDG / LHR.
@cecilma3140
@cecilma3140 2 ай бұрын
We’ll, avoid arriving during the afternoon European rush hours then. It’s not like USCBP can get enough workload for one whole shift for the right amount of people while long-haul flights from east, west and south can arrive early or late by up to an hour due to global winds. This ain’t slot-controlled HKG or LHR where flights are evenly spaced out and all or nearly all flights need to be processed by immigration.
@battlefield3112011
@battlefield3112011 2 ай бұрын
All the airport your listed doesn't have the same amount of domestic flight like LAX.
@cecilma3140
@cecilma3140 2 ай бұрын
@@battlefield3112011 And LAX or any US airport except JFK can’t direct international airlines to even out their arrivals. They can borrow ground staff but immigration can’t deal with peak hours.
@MDLC424
@MDLC424 2 ай бұрын
Global Entry or Mobile Passport Control make things easier by a lot.
@counterfit5
@counterfit5 2 ай бұрын
​@@MDLC424there's a new Global Entry app, too.
@paulngan4750
@paulngan4750 2 ай бұрын
Flying out of LAX is no issue at all, but trying to leave LAX on public trans is an absolute nightmare. Between getting off the plane, getting bags, getting to the Uber/Lyft lot, then waiting until you're picked up, that could easily be 1.5 hours.
@marklnz
@marklnz 2 ай бұрын
I actually quite enjoy walking to the LAXit lot, especially after being cramped up in a long flight. I haven't done the full "horseshoe" in one of the shuttles but I suspect that if you know your way, you can easily beat the shuttle by walking, from just about every terminal.
@KuostA
@KuostA 2 ай бұрын
@@marklnz not if you have big luggage with you... how long did that take u?
@marklnz
@marklnz 2 ай бұрын
@@KuostA I use luggage with wheels lol. Also, there *are* luggage carts. As far as how long, from Tom Bradley terminal, which I'd say is the longest walk for any of the terminals, it takes me about 20 minutes to get to LAXit.
@JungleJetAviation06
@JungleJetAviation06 2 ай бұрын
Terminal 9 is coming!👀 Also, if you fly on SWA high chances are when you depart you will go right out, another one of the positives of LAX.
@huwlewis9059
@huwlewis9059 2 ай бұрын
Never understood why whenever I’ve flown into LAX, the aircraft needs to be towed onto stand. Only reason I can think is the shape of the terminal (round).
@cecilma3140
@cecilma3140 2 ай бұрын
You must be flying a certain type of aircraft into a certain terminal.
@huwlewis9059
@huwlewis9059 2 ай бұрын
@@cecilma3140 yep, long haul , so 777 or 787 principally, usually into Tom Bradbury
@JoRo-u8u
@JoRo-u8u 2 ай бұрын
I can't find the story, but IIRC, a plane in the 1990's crashed into a terminal while pulling up to a gate (it may have not even been at LAX), so in classic reactionary creation of needless rules, they passed one that planes had to be towed the last several feet to their spot.
@shrimpflea
@shrimpflea 2 ай бұрын
Very few aircaft get towed into the terminal at LAX
@mikebarnes2294
@mikebarnes2294 Ай бұрын
I know where I live near Chicago at ORD very commonly US carrier (AA, United, Delta. etc.) flights that arrive from abroad (and need Customs processing at Terminal 5) are usually subsequently towed to terminals 1-3 for their departures. Could this be the case for those flights as well - arrival from Asia at TBIT and then towing for an subsequent domestic flight?
@Garry-pd8gw
@Garry-pd8gw 2 ай бұрын
Well, that ex-planes everything
@ivangeo3319
@ivangeo3319 2 ай бұрын
Is Hollywood in LA 😊
@johnmaster3748
@johnmaster3748 2 ай бұрын
Although it has its own ZIP code, Hollywood is not an incorporated city. So, quite literally, that neighborhood is contained in LA.
@supervelocejota63
@supervelocejota63 2 ай бұрын
I must say the taxiing layout is far from efficient compared to airports with half as many runways
@JingJao
@JingJao 2 ай бұрын
It's not that hard to get to LAX. You just call and uber and they drop you right in front of the departures area.
@noob.168
@noob.168 2 ай бұрын
They're not allowed to do that anymore.
@swingline-tb9xv
@swingline-tb9xv 2 ай бұрын
@@noob.168Not true. They can drop off, but pickups are off site at LAXit.
@pontmercy8
@pontmercy8 2 ай бұрын
@@noob.168you can still do that, but you have to go to a certain area to leave the airport
@JingJao
@JingJao 2 ай бұрын
@@pontmercy8 Just take LAXit to the uber stand and you can leave the airport. The bus comes RIGHT OUTSIDE the arrivals area, so it is actually very easy. Those busses have racks so you can put all your luggage on there and then head to uber lyft area.
@JingJao
@JingJao 2 ай бұрын
@@noob.168 I think that's for arrivals. But it is still very easy. Just take the bus to LAXit and there is an area for UBER and LYFT. Walk on down over there and take your taxi.
@rogergregston6491
@rogergregston6491 2 ай бұрын
LAX is a passenger nightmare. Passengers should avoid LAX whenever possible. So many better and more convenient airports all across SoCal (BUR, LGB, SNA, ONT, SBA and more).
@shrimpflea
@shrimpflea 2 ай бұрын
I love LAX, never has an issue there
@IlIlIlIlIlIlIlIl-v9h
@IlIlIlIlIlIlIlIl-v9h 2 ай бұрын
ATL is like the fake #1 airport because less than 15% of passengers actually begin or arrive at ATL as their final destination.
@KO-xe8vj
@KO-xe8vj 2 ай бұрын
JFK next
@laustinspace5838
@laustinspace5838 2 ай бұрын
Immigration lines remain brutal... an area yet to be improved. Last arrival there in July saw a 2:30 wait in line ( after a 13 hour flight).. SFO is more wecoming
@joellopezpr
@joellopezpr 2 ай бұрын
Spirit doesn’t have a crew base in LAX
@whatweather
@whatweather 13 күн бұрын
Los Angeleees hahaha
@HanyeXue-nh7kk
@HanyeXue-nh7kk 2 ай бұрын
yeet
@jeffkloy
@jeffkloy 2 ай бұрын
After finishing the video, I’m now super bothered by the pronunciation of Los Angeles that the narrator, most every Briton, and (some) non-American English speakers use.
@LongHaulbySimpleFlying
@LongHaulbySimpleFlying 2 ай бұрын
Thankfully the French aren’t so bothered with how the English-speaking world pronounces Paris 😅
@rjackson5191
@rjackson5191 2 ай бұрын
I hate LAX and will avoid it at all costs. Would much rather fly into the four other regional airports in the LA area.
@LWVH81
@LWVH81 2 ай бұрын
You mispronounced Los Angeles
@shrimpflea
@shrimpflea 2 ай бұрын
Almost all Brits do
@rkevic
@rkevic 2 ай бұрын
Los Angeleas
@planespottingwithabdullah
@planespottingwithabdullah 2 ай бұрын
ah,the famous airport in which the 737 proved it is stronger than a320 when it slammed into a metroliner.oh yeah,im 4th!
@cecilma3140
@cecilma3140 2 ай бұрын
Let’s say a lot has changed in the last 33 years.
@KuostA
@KuostA 2 ай бұрын
what a dumb imbecile comment on all facets lmao what a little prepubescent child you are!
@AtomicPunk51
@AtomicPunk51 2 ай бұрын
I avoid LAX like the plague. I would rather drive to next state over for my flying needs, then to ever get within mile of that hell hole.
@PakaBubi
@PakaBubi 2 ай бұрын
Horrible airport
@shrimpflea
@shrimpflea 2 ай бұрын
Why? I have never had an issue there.
@navajojohn9448
@navajojohn9448 2 ай бұрын
Too bad it is in LA and California. Being based there can be a punishment.
@shrimpflea
@shrimpflea 2 ай бұрын
Why do you say that? You hate great weather and sunshine?
@descent815
@descent815 2 ай бұрын
Doing numerous flights in and out of LAX as a passenger for as big as it is, it’s fairly easy to get in and out for the most part. It’s the inner parts the TSA that are a joke that slow everything down. It’s the long lines it’s all the inner workings of LAX that make LAX terrible.But as in flying in and out of that airport, I love the view. I love flying in over LA because you get such a view of how spread out the city is.
@smegmamerkin9471
@smegmamerkin9471 Ай бұрын
How could you possibly pronounce "Los Angeles" that way? Totally annoying and wrong.
@iseeblood209
@iseeblood209 2 ай бұрын
Did they forget to mention all the homless people sleeping inside the terminal entrance on the chairs and floors?
@cecilma3140
@cecilma3140 2 ай бұрын
When was that? Since 2020 LA legislated that (now playing this announcement incessantly in all terminal’s airside and landside): “LAX is closed to the general public 24/7”, only passengers, workers and drivers are allowed.
@maxwellwellmax878
@maxwellwellmax878 2 ай бұрын
Which Terminal?, I Just flew out of Terminal 7 a couple of weeks ago, I did not see any homeless.
@noob.168
@noob.168 2 ай бұрын
You probably think God exists too.
@LAXgav529
@LAXgav529 2 ай бұрын
I’ve worked at lax for years… that’s not true at all
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 2 ай бұрын
That’s not the case at all. Where do you get this from?
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