A Pokémon Game As Gripping As Explorers of Sky?

[@Indutro]

In order to cut the video length, I've included less cut-scenes compared to my Explorers of Sky video. Which one do you prefer?

[@Yusufthe1st]

we want long vids

[@mooney4814]

@@Yusufthe1st yes

[@delaneyh7813]

I actually liked the longer version more honestly

[@Гралька]

Explorers of Sky the best!

[@thetrueinfinite3412]

I actually have this game, and I really want to play it again, but don’t feel like resetting my save file because it took me 2 weeks to beat mewtwo, which mega evolves during its fight.

[@SalcranVGC]

What I liked in PSMD was the final part. After 3 games of the player being the one to disappear, with varying endings all of which are sad in their own ways, suddenly they pull the bait and switch and make the partner disappear, and it worked just as well. Only you have to live alone now, not them. Well, until you get them back.

[@TheAbsol7448]

Dude, that made me fucking _sob_ when I first saw that scene. The partner being pretty well written(I completely disagree with people saying he's too annoying), it was just all the more shocking to me. I had come to love that little Fennekin, who I still think is the best fit for that specific partner.

[@Ikcatcher]

I will never forget just how dark this game gets during the climax. Being sent straight to hell and everything

[@justalpha9138]

Not to mention the crazy plot twist.

[@cassandraspoelhof3752]

Definitely the hardest Mystery Dungeon game. It’s very difficult to level up in the game and depending on your starter/partner the Dungeons can be very difficult. But the story in this game is so amazing and the twist at the end is so shocking and devastating. What an incredible game.

[@splaex01]

This Game is just underrated. It holds a special place in my heart now and forever. Nothing will change that. I have to play it soon again.

[@Neston64]

Me too!

[@Blnksto]

Same, this was my first ever Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game, before I even heard about what the games were about. From what I hear, it's not as coveted as other PMD games, and I could definitely tell that the story wasn't the best at times, but it was still a much better story experience than I've experienced in other games, and the ending was still a tear jerker.

[@Firerama]

Naming yourself "Fool" made the dialogues 100% funnier XD

[@Bethany_Bradley]

That “don’t give up scene” made me tear up a bit just watching it here. The message at the end is so surprisingly profound, and for all the pacing issues this game has, I think the ending more than makes up for it. I wholeheartedly love this game and Explorers of Sky, both are huge inspirations for me to be a writer and tell fictional stories like this, so I appreciate you giving them some attention. This game in particular is already a huge inspiration for a book series I’m planning on writing, I just hope I can make it be just as emotionally rich 💕

[@TheAbsol7448]

I have _never_ understood the bitter feelings a lot of people have towards the partner in this game. I think he's the most realistic, and having grown up as a kid with ADHD, I find him to be incredibly relatable, even if I'm a lot shyer than him. The reasons that people hate him are the exact reasons why I'm so attached to him and why I find him so endearing.

[@hernandezbs]

Best partner in the series IMO.

[@evilriku1336]

I also liked how independent they were in compare to the previous PMD partners, so even if they have some childishness to them earlier in the game, which the partner is self aware about, they do overcome and scale it back being like that when they openly chose to join the Exploration Society or however they were called again.

[@smiles4045]

As a person who started their Pokemon Mystery Dungeon love through this game, its really fun seeing it again. Weirdly, as soon as I saw the Beheeyem, I instantly remembered the whole story plot, for the most part. I didn't know that this game was that important to my love of PMD until this video.

[@VALDiesel01]

i definitely cried at this game, about as much as i did from the explorer games. but i was happy in the end because of the fact that i was so invested into this game that i managed to feel something from it by the end of it which not a lot of games can do for me anymore.

[@aran4241]

I cam remember a little bit playing this and it being harder than I thought it would be.. or maybe I was just bad. But one thing I won't forget is how spine chilling seeing everyone be turned to stone was. Really makes me wish spinoffs for Pokémon weren't seemingly gone as of late

[@TheAbsol7448]

I'm replaying this game for the first time since release, and immediately after finishing Sky. Trust me, it's just hard. The stuff the game drags you through before leaving Serene Village is just nuts, and it forces you to either grind or get lucky with random items.

[@frosted_glaceon5513]

@TheAbsol7448 It's especially difficult because when you're in the story it forces you to go into the next story dungeon and you can't choose to do other rescues in between unless you are in between story points. Post game was hard as heck to get through as a Fennekin.

[@EeveeTheEevee]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOO I'm so glad seeing mystery dungeon vids getting made, I absolutely adore this franchise to pieces, and it's so insanely massively underrated.

[@Beyond-Mysteries]

Hopefully one day we'll either get an MD sky remake and or MD5. I feel that'll be set on the sand continent. :)

[@wikiuser92]

Explorers is great, but in my honest opinion, it's also a tiny bit overrated. Or maybe this game is just really underrated. Or both.

[@carissaw5217]

I agree I do think Explorers is a bit overrated and Super is underrated I do like the Explorers games it’s my favorite along with Super but I still think it’s overrated but hey that’s just my opinion

[@sonicslayer2165]

So what I can about the game, it's great and definitely made me cry. I remember getting to a certain point, was stuck and simply just restarted. Personally partner's theme at the ending is a tear jerker, because it just seems to hit harder then the titanic. Now, I am trying to find someone who makes harmony scarfs so I can buy one and either hang it up on my wall or wear it around publicly

[@mintythedemon1785]

In my opinion, Supers cast of characters is slightly stronger than Explorers. The main characters have a closer connection to the town and Expedition Society have more notable personalities compared to some of the guild (Archen, Jirachi and Buizel for example). Of course my favorite characters would have to be the Partner and Espurr. Despite me making comparisons between Explorers and Super, I wish that more people didn’t look down on games that aren’t Explorers just because they’re not exactly like it. Of course, it’s great to have your own opinions on the games.

[@davidbeer5015]

It’s a thing I’ve noticed with Assassin’s Creed as well, everything gets compared to the Ezio trilogy. Explorers has a good story (I think Sky has taken over the other two due to the Special Episodes), but they all have good stories. Some portions of Super, Gates might have even done really well (Dark Matter vs Bittercold, but the latter is unknown the origin of the cycle) both with some great characters. But I have enjoyed and teared up at all the stories and music. They’ve all been great with their own strengths

[@awesomeocelot7475]

Plus the expedition society feel more like a whole group of friends as opposed to explorers’s guild feeling like employees.

[@evilriku1336]

I also like the symbolism and build up for events and twists in this game compared to EoS. Peoplw criticize those build ups for feeling/being forced and I'm like.. did we play the same game? o.O

[@Mimikkyudayo]

Super was the first mystery dungeon game ive played... and made me realize pokemon games need multiple save files, because if you want to replay it say goodbye to your current file

[@wikiuser92]

Or buy another copy.

[@Mimikkyudayo]

@@wikiuser92 Why do that when piracy works just as well, or modding your ds for custom software that allows multiple save files

[@wikiuser92]

@@Mimikkyudayo Because those are not legitimate or even legal things to do. And more trouble than they're worth. I don't want to mess with my games.

[@Mimikkyudayo]

@@wikiuser92 Nothings wrong with the custom software that allows for multiple save files outside of hacking your ds

[@wikiuser92]

@@Mimikkyudayo You used the word "piracy". That is illegal. And hacking is honestly dirty and cheap.

[@j.corbygaming]

Great as always Indutro! Also… A game where our partner is the one that goes… i was not expecting that

[@exceptionallyriso]

Aaaand I immediately get spoiled by opening the comments, the jokes on me

[@j.corbygaming]

@@exceptionallyriso oh no im sorry! I should of put a spoiler warning!

[@exceptionallyriso]

@@j.corbygaming You could do something like This, people do that usually :]

[@j.corbygaming]

@@exceptionallyriso fixed it!

[@exceptionallyriso]

@@j.corbygaming Thanks :D

[@awesomeocelot7475]

Super Mystery Dungeon is my favorite Pokémon game PERIOD! I love its world and its characters so much (even if you do spend too much time in school I would’ve loved the whole game with the expedition society) and the story is really great too! And I love the expedition society so much as they are all great characters and feel like just a group of close friends!

[@cassandraspoelhof3752]

This game definitely contains the best plot twist in all of Pokémon. Now we know how our partner always feels having to watch us leave at the end. I decided to play this game again. My Pokémon is a Froakie that I named Ash and my partner is a female Snivy I named Rachel. I know Rachel will probably struggle quite a bit because honestly this game is pretty brutal for Grass Pokémon but with me as a Froakie I should be able to help cover for her.

[@bradywoods6293]

Played super when i was 13-14ish. Balled like a baby at the end. Probrably my favorite dungeon game

[@rayseeklo]

Ah, Super Mystery Dungeon… My very first PMD game. It wrecked me emotionally several times. I cry like a big baby every single time I watch the ending.

[@klabelia9454]

Honestly I had no issue with leveling difficulty (I used the same 3 Pokémon most of the time; vulpix, turtwig and Mudkip, AI difficulty (for the most part), and I think the pacing was fine. I’m not a huge game analyzer and honestly I feel this game is way too underrated and deserves more attention for it’s story. If you’re struggling with leveling difficulty, use Joy looplets Underrated game. Thanks for the video.

[@QuasarBuasarEeveeTheUziFan]

Or in the post-game, consume aurum potassium.

[@JadeTheProtogen1]

18:21 I like how they acted like pricks just to make us not miss them when we leave.

[@nathan714]

lets face it... there is no way that dark matter could have ever managed to petrify kekleon if he did... the world would be doomed

[@alkv7604]

I cried so hard... I love this game, so happy someone finally is giving attention to it

[@chaos-x7082]

Although I like the idea behind the connection orb and the main story, I hated how they treated the post-game story.

[@Yusufthe1st]

When Iplayed this game, I loved eveery bit of it

[@JeremyB381]

Finally someone simping for this game as much as me

[@Mat383]

I agree with basically every point made. The whole game was good and the visual presentation was excellent (I had low expectations for 3d versions of previously 2d games ever since I played pokemon X), but it wasn't as emotionally gripping as explorers. Also I didn't have to intentionally grind at all to finish the game. I only died a few times but never twice on the same mission.

[@Nuggs-and-Fries]

Also its so cool to see it really is the writing of explorers of sky thats SO GOOD anyone playong it no matter what age can cry

[@AstronoMETV]

I loved super mystery dungeon so much. Ive played through it three or four times with different teams. Its so much fun with the emera system and mega evolving included.

[@yellowcaballero]

Finally some love for PSMD

[@timegame8026]

It's good and all. But as time passes by gates still is my favorite

[@kip258]

Thanks for the video! Loved listening while at work. :)

[@akayway6464]

This was the first game I ever owned when I was little, I got it with my 3DS, and I have no many fond memories of it - Even if there are better games, nothing will come close to the first time I finished the main story and bawled my eyes out for.. Longer than I'd like to admit, it's just such an important memory, and it's what's kept me with the franchise all these years!

[@RealNitetales]

It is amusing to see many people just yelling “Fool!” throughout the rapid dialogue here lol

[@KozaraShinosuke]

i just want an exact same game as Explorers of Sky and DS but inclusive of all the generations up till now :x

[@kaedeakamatsudr]

Yeah it's a great game so underrated

[@DryCombee]

27:08 persona 4 moments

[@AlbertoCiarrocca]

12:38 there's a murkow > i like the video

[@malokey7]

I personally thought the story was a little too goofy to say the least when I played it. I enjoy the gameplay a lot and I think it was much much better than gates to infinity which when I play the demo in 2013 hated so much I never bought the game until fall 2020 and played it. I think this is the only PMD worth 100% because they make it very streamlined and fun. I have not 100% the game but I finished a good chunk.

[@JJSSBU]

Yep. I cried. I remember I was holding my pee. After the credits, I didnt need to anymore bcs of how much I cried

[@qwopp]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING THIS GAME IS SO GOOD

[@solindefault]

Indutro is my religion

[@ericwijaya2119]

You forgot the most important part of the game's story, being owned by the same fucking Salamence from Gates To Infinity few hours into the game

[@edwinbuana555]

i am a Hoenn baby but i decide to use Froakie & Fennekin instead

[@samr4281]

You should do a nuzlocke in Pokemmo! Love the vids, been binging them for the past week

[@JunaidWolf3]

I loved this game however the game made leveling so hard xp was very bad

[@mr.curtis6730]

It was brutal trying to beat it at lv 19 and lv 18

[@gghabes4643]

when I was younger and played this game I definitely thought it was the weakest of the 4. Truth be told I felt like it was a lot more childish than the previous installments, all 3 of which I REALLY liked and felt were a bit more mature(mind you not much more since it IS a mystery dungeon game, but the aspects of dying/being labeled criminals were big concepts for me at the time), while this one felt a bit more lacking. I definitely teared a bit playing through it as every MD has that power, but It never hit me as hard as Kyurem stomping on you in Gates or You vanishing at temporal tower. I'm commenting on this before I watch the video, I'm honestly willing to give the game another try now that I'm older and I'll see if your video will make me want to.

[@theyammi437]

Ehhhhhhhhhh it’s alright

[@ty_le5728]

It’s not letting me watch the video...

[@elijah07t50]

Great vid

[@OFantasmazul]

my only issue with this game, was that we start as a "child" going to poke school, but we never "grow" during the main story, and when we finally unlock the "evolutions" we are still "kids" evolved, nobody threats us diferently, wouldn't be way much cooler, if during the main story, we grow/evolve at least to the second form, and the scarves made us mega evolve instead?(or get the third evolution buffed if don't have mega)

[@saifuusuri]

Soup Mist Done

[@sheff4719]

Ehh, this games story gets really weird and silly about half way, the game play isn't bad at all but the story doesn't really compare to Explorers. Nice video though and I do think this game is underrated.

[@antoinewilliams290]

That game is awesome

[@henrymars6626]

Eh. This game is okay. I prefer OG PMD Red/DX tho personally.

[@mrcx6142]

Super Mystery Dungeon was such a letdown compared to Explorers Of Sky. The modern graphics didn't help it's cause either. Like don't get me wrong, it's still a decent game, it just couldn't quite keep up with what may well be one of the best Pokemon Games period.

[@TheConstellationofOnewhostares]

DOPE

[@crobatgaming5661]

hello Indonesia

[@alejandrobobadilla7934]

I can’t watch it

[@fighterphoenix5789]

Spoiler alert: Your partner disappearing is the biggest plot twist ever

[@Nuggs-and-Fries]

Naw bra

[@blissfulstatic2563]

the gameplay of super is infuriating honestly. fighting annoying AI with a bad level curve leaves you over-reliant on item spam to make any progress the story isn't AS bad but while it's good at times its more often somewhere between "fine" and "absolutely cringeworthy" i don't see how this game is anywhere near as good as sky. i don't even see how it's better than rescue team.

[@FirstLast-mn4re]

"Item spam" is not a bad thing in the Mystery Dungeon series. Every non-Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game has a much larger emphasis on inventory management and strategic item use, because its a rougelike. The items exist to be used, not hoarded in your storage box never to see the light of day again. Also not really sure what you're on about with the "bad AI" the partner's AI is significantly better in this game than any of the previous PMD games, actually avoiding revealed traps, actually using type effective moves and actually being able to attack through you. Like the partner AI actually contributes quite a bit in Super.

[@blissfulstatic2563]

@@FirstLast-mn4re well it's great that i'm not talking about the partner AI then. I'm referring to the enemies that will walk around inside one room forever, waiting for you to enter so they can instantly pop an earthquake or other room damaging move. I'm talking about how basically every enemy has a move that hits from a space away and will never approach you, so every single interaction will start with you taking damage somehow. I said over-reliant for a reason. If you attempt to use any strategy besides spamming items, you're going to be punished in some way. do i need to be clearer?

[@Buglin_Burger7878]

A tip for Mystery Dungeon games, don't waste time trying to grind or solve things using damage items/tools just use reviver seeds. In almost every Mystery Dungeon game this is the best way to play as no item is an HP restore at 0 HP. Even an Oran Berry wastes 1 turn and you need to be above 0. This is a common issue in this genre of game though. It has all these fancy tools but none of them beat just the power of not die.

[@FirstLast-mn4re]

Or you could just use items that prevent you from needing revives in the first place. A good emera setup/crushing useless emeras for stat boosts can also help a lot. But packing emergency orbs and making good use of thorns/rocks/wands helps a lot with survivability since all of these items are stackable and help you to deal with threats from a distance. A revive or 2 is obviously quite helpful as insurance, but items help a lot to compensate for the slow level curve.

[@ZoofyZoof]

Absolutely not. I hated this game's story. It was poorly told with annoying and bad characters, too long in the beginning town in too short in the next town with no time to get used to your new friends (not that they had anything likeable about them to begin with), it was super predictable Nuzleaf was a bad guy, the villain was incredibly generic and felt uninspired, and it rehashed the same ending they've been doing over and over again and it gets so old. It wasn't even good this time. Certain events felt forced simply to make the game last longer rather than serving any purpose to the story at all.

[@lunaalencar7913]

I finished this game a while ago and at first I was really disappointed. The fact that they made the main character children, having to go to school and all annoys me a little, but the biggest issue is the almost everything is tied to "being children". The exploration thing in lively town, the dungeons, traveling in Lapras… Besides that, the story was great. Arceus speaking to you and legendary Pokemon helping gave everything that sense of danger and urgency. Also, your partner disappearing was such a huge plot twist. I thing we have never seen such an amazing climax If it was just the story, I would've been completely fine with the child thing, but gosh the AI was horrible. Your partner only use moves that hit from afar even if the enemy is right in front of them, even if it's a not effective move. That annoyed me the most. But all in all, it's a great game! I'd say same level as explorers of sky because of the AI. (Sorry for the broken English)

[@candyneige6609]

And then, there's also a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game that is more gripping than Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky, and it's called Pokémon Legends Arceus.

[@Buglin_Burger7878]

...you know that doesn't play like a Mystery Dungeon genre game and doesn't count right?

[@candyneige6609]

@@Buglin_Burger7878 It's quite the opposite actually, Pokémon Legends Arceus does play as a Mystery Dungeon genre game, and by a lot, therefore, Pokémon Legends Arceus does count as a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game.

[@barrymckokiner3758]

People need to talk about the pokemon ranger games more

[@marionbenson6094]

😭 thank you