A PowerPoint about Porygon2

Porygon2

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

The recording process for this one had to be rushed because I'm at my family's house for the holidays, if you struggle to hear exactly what I'm saying, feel free to follow along with the script: docs.google.com/document/d/1pO_vrEd1PhMI2-9uSR62F41_M-KnoGLjezOptB9koHc/edit?usp=sharing

[@pmahcgop6693]

It was great, enjoy the holidays EWGF

[@reychampi7440]

this channel is awesome, is the first video I find hard to follow the voice and you have posted the script. Absolute goat. Hope you grow bigger, I love the videos

[@jakeblancaster8498]

I also have a Porygon2 for nearly the same reasons, but more or less waiting for an alternate Porygon evolution thats more legit. Porygon, both 1 and 2 are based on Poly-render, something that was a thing back on the PS1 and N64 (the concole that conjured so many Pokemon Fan Dreams that now lay broken and lifeless today) while PorygonZ is more equivalent to a ROMHack.

[@gamingwithblueboy4563]

I just found your channel and if this is rushed I need to see you at your full potential this video amazing lol

[@Huggbees]

Counterpoint: Look at Porygon-Z and tell me that isn't the coolest thing ever.

[@sithlordbinks]

What is bro doin here

[@HawkBreland]

its pretty cool

[@villagemarauder]

If porygon z just had 10 more base speed I'd fully agree with you. It is cool though.

[@playlover9680]

Blud like zekrom exists

[@Blowter]

Counter-Counterpoint: Porygon2 is sillier, therefore better.

[@charliewyffels9473]

The guy who showed up when you serched "Trace Pokemon" is your rival in the "Let's Go" games, and I guess his cannon name is Trace.

[@lordgrub12345]

If he had a Porygon2 named trace we could say Trace's trace activated trace.

[@springtrap1156]

@@lordgrub12345unfortunately porygon 2 does not exist in the let’s go games

[@Defaultnoobisme]

Oh thats where i know him from. He is very forgettable

[@A.R_69]

Abilities also dont exist​@@springtrap1156

[@bengoodwin2141]

I would hardly even call him a rival. He's just some guy with no personality that follows you around

[@astropult9377]

The Porygon line has my heart. I love how 2 and Z play different roles.

[@tempestgreen1125]

Small correction to the video: *Tera Normal choice specs adaptability Hyper Beam is one of the only Special attacks that can actually scare Blissey sometimes (with chip, it’s not chi yu or anything)

[@pr1nc3y25]

I ran the calcs and if Blissey had all the bulk possible (Max HP, Max SpD, Assault Vest, SpD boosting nature) then Porygon-Z can guarantee 3HKO Blissey and using a set without Assualt Vest and Max HP can guarantee 2HKO it. If affected by Helping Hand, Porygon-Z can even 2HKO the max bulk Blissey. This makes me actually tempted to build a Porygon-Z team.

[@nightdazernoneya7993]

You don't *wall* Porygon-Z lol

[@amberhernandez]

​@@pr1nc3y25AV Blissey 💀

[@OneZappyBoi]

​@@nightdazernoneya7993Tried once, ate one hyper beam and just said "Okay so I have to kill you right away."

[@hessiankyojin]

@@pr1nc3y25Who tf would ever run an AV Blissey in a serious competitive team?

[@thisrandomdude2880]

Aw hell nah, we do not tolerate Porygon-Z slander in this house! Edit: okay the last part redeeming Porygon-Z means you're forgiven but please refrain from being too harsh as Porygon-Z is sensitive and its feelings are easily hurt.

[@OnlyNeedJuan]

Also if you shake him too hard he'll crash and take out your harddrives.

[@Poyomini]

"Look! You made Porygon-Z cry!" Porygon-Z: E̶̡̮̼͙̰͖̻̘̣̗̩̝̬͔̪̖̥̙̺͒̔̆͂̐͋̐̂̀̄̍̿̈̍̈́̾̈́̇̈́̈͒̆́̔̐͒̉̔̿̑̚̕̕͘͠͠͝ͅͅǸ̶̢̛̳͎͇͈̑̅̏͐̓̿̈́͗̋͛̀̂̓̐̊͗̏̈͋̈́̀̑̈̅͘̕̚̕D̵̢̛̛̙͇͇͎̲͈̯͓̟̫̗̲̺̰͍̹̣̤̺̩̟̲͍̙̲̤͔͈̮͍̘̪̀̈͒͗́̐̋̀͆̉͆̀͗̓̿͊̅͂̈̍̽̓̈́͋͆̽̚̕͠͠ͅͅ ̶̛̟͈̫̳̳̻̗̣͖̥̯̩͚̠̯̺͐͐͛̊́̏̈́̈́̐̍̍̅̍̈̋M̵̧̢̧̢̧̨̢̖̱͙̘̝̝͚̥̟̱̳̟̣̺͎͚̥͉̫̩͓̝͔͉̰̦͖͉̙͓̯̗̙͗̆͒́͋͛́̽͐̽̔̏̉̍̒̀̉̌͑̉̿͛͊͆̇̀͐̋̚͜͠͝ͅE̴̺͓̤̻͚͉͚̜̣͚̣̮̤̮̩̝͗̎̉̃̓̈́͛̃̈́̅̈́͝͠ ̷̧̻̞̮͖͇͎̗̲̤̞͓̯̥͔́̿̾̋̾̋͋̍̄̓̔̽̈́̆͆̎̎́͋̔́͒̀̓̓̇̓̕̚̕͠P̶̨̛̭̹̬͔͇͍̲͕̥̫̞̻͒̔̊̾̏͌̏̾̑̂̓͝͠L̷̡̨̧̧̢̛̫͓̱̭̫̺͉͎̲̫͕̭̗͇̯̙̹͙͔͍̰̻̟̈̌̓̿̋͗̑́̇̋̐̉̊̀̕͜͝͠ͅÈ̶̡̡̛̛̙̱͚̹̮̗̰̠̦̭̠͇̘̙̝̓̀̆͒̾̐̍͐̿̍͑̊̉̒̃̌͌̉́̿́̾̈̊̂͆͊͌̇̎̊͆̽̎̋̉̈́̈́̏͛̿͌̚͜͠͝͝Ã̷̡̲̥̩̯̬͈͉͈̏̓̑̎̒̚͝͝S̸̨͔̰̻̝̗͚̩̜͓̮̘̰͍͈̣̮̝̤̱͚̲̝͍͔̩͍͇͖̣͇͖̀̋̽̓͒̾͗̒̈́̆͗̾̌͑̐̏̈͛̎̽͊̈́͂͋͛̒̓̍̚̚̚͜͜͝͠͝ͅĘ̴̧̛̖͚̝͍̲̥̗̫̣̪̰͔̭̰̲̯̠̙̣̺̜̦̤̹̲̲͕̥̻͎͇̦̿͗̎̆̀̓͛́̆̉̓̍̉̆͛͊͗̈́͘

[@eggshellfan406]

Saying Porygon-Z is worse than Porygon2 doesn’t mean much considering Porygon2 is the best Pokémon and every other Pokémon (besides Goomy) is worse than it. (Naturally, my 2 favorites are the best and any other opinions are wrong.)

[@Headspr0uter]

it's really poetic that it turned out this way, seeing as Porygon-Z is an illegally altered Porygon being made to perform actions its was never designed to such as "sweeping" and "2x power normal moves". stick with stable releases for the best results.

[@Iris_Descent]

it's much cuter too seriously how is an artificial digital pokemon this cute it's unironically my favorite normal type

[@MajinBuddha]

In Gen 7, I loved using Z-conversion on Porygon-Z. Conversion, with thunderbolt in the first slot it changes it to the electric type and the Z effect gives it an omni boost. With adaptability this is a nasty sweeper. Tbolt, ice beam, recover, and conversion were my moves 💪

[@twotamatos]

I miss Z moves honestly gen 7 is the last game I play I hope going forward we can get better metas n stuff but yah maybe I’ll dip into gen 8-9 with some hack mons with friends to try n balance at the awful nerfs Pokémon got n dex cut but yah 7 is kinda the last game me n any of my friends play

[@MajinBuddha]

@twotamatos pretty much same. Dynamax was lame and Tera feels unpredictable/ unrewarding. Gen 7 with both z moves and megas felt fast paced and fun to me. Of course it's all opinion but it's my favorite and my most played to this day. Alola, friend 🍻

[@twotamatos]

@@MajinBuddha yah man I still make teams to this day honestly I have made 1000s of teams for gen 7 it had such a high ceiling for everything you could learn sooooo many different team building strats they started kinda dumbing down the games although the strategies of using guard split power split & simple beam still work in gen 8-9 it still feels like instead of adding more Pokémon to the roster that can use those things they just dumbed it down especially in 9 but yah Pokémon’s kinda like cod where if u don’t like the new games they make every year u can always go back to that 1 game u loved if only they weren’t gonna cut internet or already did woulda loved to play some games with yah but yah enjoying now going back n building some cool n creative hack Mon teams so u literally can just play that game forever n have nearly endless combinations with color coordinating teams making new synergies n focusing on adding fun new unique moves to mons some of em work great like if u give hitmontop darkest Lariat he actually spins like a top it’s crazy how well the animation works so yah that has really helped breath more life into it got street legal and illegal teams but I still try n find a good balance and yah cutting megas was a garbage idea I really think if they focused on giving unique Z move animations to more Pokémon it could add some more flare to fights like in the anime but yah it had depth they tried to squeeze Z moves & megas into 1 with dynamax but it was weak really seemed like they just had a weird fetish for giant Pokémon or something XD but yah idk what they where smoking crystal me+h with terrastralizing honestly u could change ur Pokémon’s typing with moves like trick or treat soak mystic powder to make every Pokémon get a choice band 1.5 & letting em change to any typing was just a absolute mess gen 9 was such a mess but yah I think they said they r gonna take their time next game so I hope one day we can get a game with as much depth as 7 and a full National dex somehow again :( but yah like I said making some hack mons can add a lot of life to even a old game and keep u playing more it has helped with me I hope u can find some homies who still can enjoy gen 7

[@MajinBuddha]

@@twotamatos fr. We didn't need to boot megas, just to add like a dozen more each Gen to make more pokemon viable (and stop giving megas to already potent threats (the pseudo legendaries for example, even though I love mega mence)) But it'll all come back around. Sun/moon servers get taken down in April 2024, so take it all in while you can. I'll definitely try out some hackmons, sounds fun

[@twotamatos]

@@MajinBuddha oh yah my fave thing about it is u can give Pokémon abilities like huge power and fur coat, mons with high BST guard split and power split so u can evenly distribute stats in doubles ontop of assault vest u really can use any Pokémon n then be able to rock metronome mons on like togetic just give it huge power and it’ll have perfectly rounded stats to fire moves off with metronome just being able to give more Pokémon simple or simple beam is a blessing too giving more mons the pledge moves fire water grass pledge besides starters it is so much fun to just have freedom work on ur teams aesthetics purely and synergy without having to scroll through hundreds of Pokémon n have em go EHHHH error u can’t use this that’s a transfer move and that’s a breeding move try again only 6 Pokémon can learn that move it really allows ur imagination to run wild n create endless possibilities

[@jamesw2831]

You keep proving that your channel is the best use of powerpoints ever. The original sprite looks almost like an early sketch of Kon from Bleach.

[@dkmow706]

Trace was the rival from Let’s Go

[@The_Pikaboi]

As per the Porygon-Z theorum, Porygon-Z is the most balanced pokemon ever created as one single theorycrafted buff is capable of turning it into something unstoppable

[@Zerohi123]

Got to quite a high rank with PgonZ in gen 8 1v1 metagame. Always going to love him because of that

[@alexanderchoi8427]

I think that it’s harder to compare these two mons compared to other eviolite mons such as dusclops and dusknoir. The porygons are so different and their competition within the tier is so different. While I do think that 2 can be fit better within a lot more teams, I also think that z can function as a really strong nuke if it has a team that is built around it. Both these mons are rly cool

[@tonyg9775]

Once saw a video about how if Porygon-Z gets only one buff to anything it has (ex: give it Flamethrower or boost its Speed) it instantly becomes broken

[@marcalcantara1174]

Conversion Z porygon-Z was so stupidly good on my normal monotype team in gen 7 (omniboost and change to ghost type)

[@TheMaplestSyrup]

The Porygon-z theorem

[@ogeid772]

The Porygon-Z theorem has been proven true last gen when the top 10 mons in usage got banned and Porygon-Z become very oppressive

[@Castersvarog]

Yeah that sounds right, Porygon-Z is so uniquely balanced that anything that could make it strong will throw it over the edge. Buff its speed and its launching nukes everywhere, give it boomburst and it's the strongest wallbreaker around, improve Hyper beam in any way and Porygon-z will destory. It's impressive really just how well balanced it remains

[@ShinyHydrapplTheSyrpent]

The only thing keeping porygon 2 and z related are their biology. Their playstyle is completely different with one being bulky and the other being a nuke. I hope they give z some crazy form which patches all its problems and give it the same high standarts as porygon 2.

[@dary3]

I feel like Porygon-Z is on the brink of being op

[@Maszt14]

Also Porygon2 in gen 3 OU has a funny interaction with claydol being able to trace levitate being able to switch in eqs from it and then threatening it with ice beam It can also copy natural cure from some pokemon so it can freely get statused Porygon2 is a very versetile pokemon in gen 3 ou and is one of my favorite UUBL pokemons of gen 3

[@Mikman360]

Porygon-Z's Hyper Beam (with Tera+Specs, or Normal Gem, or Normalium Z or whatever the generational gimmick is) is the most fun button to click in Pokemon history.

[@michielwitteveen6676]

yep whatever you use it on just dissapears

[@Verminator4]

A suboptimal but very fun set I liked using on Porygon-Z in some older gens was Choice Band. People used to switch their special wall only to watch it get erased by CB adaptability Return or Double Edge. The thing is you could still use special moves as coverage for when your opponent caught on, as its special attack is so high even without any investment.

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Porygon2 was meant to travel outer space, and PorygonZ was meant to travel to other dimensions. Porygon2 was born just in time to explore the final frontier of metadom, while porygonZ was born too late to explore rby and gen2.

[@connerrose6116]

Itd be awesome if the Porygon line got a new split evolution

[@Squid_Salad]

without the malware?

[@michaelbowman6684]

Split evolution that makes it look like the Beta design.

[@cornonjacob]

Tbh if they gave us Porygon 3, based on lore and differentiating it from Porygon z it'd probably be a bulky mon, so you'd just be better off using Porygon 2 anyway. I think the only way a Porygon 3 would see solid usage in VGC was if it had a busted signature ability and/or move, or if it was more of a physical counterpart to Z instead (which I doubt would happen)

[@quaksbongos658]

HELLO ZORPY!! Thank u for giving love to both of these awesome mons

[@NecroGarfunk]

I've always loved the weird contrast between 2 and Z since DPP, and I tried to use them both together even then. When BW added the Eviolite, you bet your ass I knew what I wanted to equip it to immediately. This is def my fav evo line in terms of how much love I have for each entry. also thank you for tipping your hat to Z i was afraid this vid would just be dunking on it

[@PapagaioParaguaio]

Virtual Ducks That would be a great anime! Also make a Power Point about how Hitmontop is Incineroar neglected older brother.

[@connerrose6116]

Always made me sad. Wish Porygon-Z got more love

[@christiancinnabars1402]

As we've seen with some of Smogon's other metagame formats, Porygon-Z is simultaneously underpowered yet also only one buff away from being immediately banworthy. 135 base Sp. Atk plus an Adaptability/Download boost is right on the verge of unstoppable. We've seen with Chi-Yu exactly how nasty that exact amount of Sp. Atk plus a 1.33x boost can be. Now all PZ needs to break the meta is a STAB special move stronger than Tri Attack. Imagine if the Porygon line got access to Techno Blast, for example.

[@rabiithous3]

give porygon z boomburst 😋😋

[@terratius]

0:18 Adaptability isnt a 1.5x boost on top of the normal STAB multiplier. It increases the STAB multiplier from 1.5x to 2x. This results in an effective 1.33x boost to its damage, and not a 1.5x one.

[@terratius]

Additionally, if you Tera Normal, the total STAB boost is 2.5x, which is a 1.25x boost compared to the 2x boost you get from non-tera Adaptability-boosted STAB moves. The damage boost here is fairly negligible and you're usually better off terastalizing into some other type for additional coverage or defensive utility. TLDR: Dont Tera into the same type with Adaptability mons, as it provides very diminishing returns.

[@whatthewhatthe9117]

I love porygon 2 and porygon z them along side the scyther line are great examples of evolutions acting as side grades

[@hydrochlorination]

Porygon2 is my favorite pokemon of all time so im glad its viable in many competitive metas. I used it myself a lot in gen 8 1v1s as a gimmick stall set

[@connerrose6116]

Hi Zorpy!

[@fen_u9401]

jimothy cool would be proud of you for mentioning gen 3 OU Pory2

[@juliancalero8012]

Porygon 2 is a solid support pokemon that will endure the fight long enough to do something, porygon z is a nuke that its mere existence empowers 2

[@tomaskaila]

The thing about Porygon Z is that it kind of does exactly what it looks like : a fucked up little thing that gonna break something or die trying.

[@ktvx.94]

This is the real paradox pokemon

[@TheMcK777]

First Boingus, now Zorpy - the PowerPoint Presenter Pokémon Platoon increases in numbers!

[@Fisticutz]

That kid from the first slide is the "Gary" of the Let's go games

[@duncathan_salt]

Worth noting that P2 sees success in ADV OU, thanks of course to it being a rare smogon metagame where Dugtrio can still do its thing.

[@canaldecasta]

I would go to school if these were the powerpoint presentations.

[@trikecycle4730]

Thanks for the powerpoint about my favourite Pokémon ❤🙏🙏🙏

[@Rarest26]

Both are still good. Sadly we can say much about Dusknoir who’s probably getting roasted when (if) you cover that line

[@razrv3lc]

Porygon2 and Z do different things. It’s like saying a pickup truck is better than a sports car. Porygon2 exists to be an annoying wall. Porygon-Z exists to nuke.

[@et34t34fdf]

Porygon 2 in gen 3, when facing Dugtrio : I'm not locked in here with you, you are locked in here with me.

[@tomasiarity]

Specs Overheat Chiyu: "Finally a worthy opponent!"

[@Greyshadow511]

Kieran's hyper beam porygon z was the only mon to take out any of my level 100s. I was impressed.

[@msgameandcake628]

Oh hey, its my BOI! I'm kind of surprised you didn't elaborate a little more on some of the details in Gens IV and V. Gen IV is where Porygon-Z was introduced, and in that gen I'm pretty sure it has the highest Special Attack of all pokemon in the game. Eviolite didn't exist yet, and this is also the generation that introduced the physical/special split so now Normal type attacks could be Special moves. Porygon2 still has better defenses, but without eviolite, Porygon-Z more thoroughly acts as an upgrade as most evolutions tend to do. Then Gen V happens. Chandelure gets introduced and becomes the NEW Pokemon with the highest Special Attack stat. Eviolite gets introduced, allowing Porygon2 to more thoroughly specialize in its bulk to compete with its evolution. With these two changes, Porygon-Z is getting outshined from two directions at once. This is where everything changed for Porygon-Z, the generation immediately after its introduction, and things haven't really gotten better since.

[@cafalx]

I'll give this project an A+

[@Birdsflight44]

That Stadium 2 Novelty drinking bird animation ❤

[@EDoyl]

Z-conversion porygonZ to ghost type as a fighting move comes in then sweeping with adaptability shadow bawls my goodness. No amount of nerd math on a numerically supreme trick room setter can overwhelm thwt feeling.

[@unknowntsukuyomi5692]

Dang man you should totally do one about Ampharos or Electivire

[@caphere9985]

Tri attack porygon 2 has to be one of my favourite Pokémon to use

[@alexemp6201]

I am so glad p2 is back Just this ppt (p2t) got me in the mood for some damage calcs for the boi

[@shrill_pkm]

I love these videos 💯😂

[@vintagestealth8802]

Min Speed Analytic is surprisingly fun, at least back in generations 6 and 7.

[@Ms_Ari13]

YEAAAAAHHHH PORYGON VIDEO THANK YOU

[@Amalvipls]

I have to admit that I don't give a shit about competitive pokemon but these videos are just a lot of fun thanks bro

[@ryanleatigaga7596]

Beta Porygon looks like an NPC Toby Fox would put in Undertale where it pesters you to subscribe to its niche KZbin channel.

[@AI-DreigonGPT]

Trace is the rivals of the Let's Go Pikachu or Eevee games

[@FinalShieldnobi]

My Porygon2's name is Sgt. Quack. I like to think that he's the leader of my pokemon team and is the brains of the operation :3

[@WarningStrangerDanger]

You can run both on the same team. Partnered with a good Ghost Type, both can be set up for sucess. A fast Fighting Type can get blocked by the Ghost switch-in. This also allows the recovery turn of Hyper Beam to be skipped.

[@kintsuki99]

That guy is Trace, one of the rivals in the Pokemon Go games.

[@jevsjeavous]

As a Porygon-Z fan, i am offended and agree to what is mentioned. Porygon line is super cool

[@Pablositoish]

I've never been this fast to a video before 🤯

[@deadlydingus1138]

Hello, Zorpy.

[@tik6030]

i remember z-conversion into a ghost type to dodge fighting moves and start sweeping with an omniboost in gen 7

[@ogeid772]

I dont think its fair to say Porygon2 is better than its evolution, because they're trying to do very different things, one is a bulky support mon and the other is an offensive sweeper. It almost feels like they should be a split evolution of Porygon, instead of being a single evolutionary line

[@SpritePony]

Two major issues I have with this. 1. Not being ranked under NU is NOT a point of contention. OU and UU are very strong points of contention, though. 2. Just because Palkia, Lunala, and Caly-Ice had lower usage stats that P2 doesn't speak anything of P2. It just means that in that format, Palk, Luna, and C-I were either just unviable or dogshit compared to the threats running around. (Especially since Zacian-Crowned beats the shit out of Palk and Luna.) It'd better to compare P2 to other, similarly ranked, popular Pokemon for the format.

[@Nathan-gs5tw]

I just hope they both have fun 🙂

[@oneshotyuri]

I use Porygon2 on my usual team when fighting on showdown and it's so fun to use. Put in enough defense and HP evs and it can survive a close combat, which says a lot about its bulk

[@Revoltine]

Mind you that NatDex Gen 8 VGC ran Dmax Porygon-Z + Friend Guard Follow Me Clefairy as a famous pre-cursor to the infamous Neutralizing Gas Weezing + Regigigas. Max Strike is a direct upgrade to its preferred base of Hyper Beam and would easily wipe anything without substantial bulk. Anything that survived ate a speed stat drop to the point where nothing but Choice Scarfers, Speed Boosters, or Swift Swim analogues could outspeed it. Clefairy pretty much ensured that Porygon-Z is burying one victim six feet under and at least putting another one in KO range. You could only comfortably deal with it using Ghost immunity or by neutering Clefairy as early as possible. Even if this setup's only true drawback is its predictable turn 1 (non-dmax Porygon-Z on turn 1 is extremely rare), it didn't matter much because of how overwhelming it is.

[@appliedatoms7066]

I still have fond memories of Z-conversion back in gen7. It wasn't... good, but it was so unexpected that it could cheese a lot of wins.

[@drbrains1415]

I love the porygon line

[@pokefriend123]

Porygon-Z one-shots Blissey after a single boost, you don't even need specs when you're blowing up Lando-Ts with Nuclear Blizzards!

[@kalarse]

Hi Zorpy

[@doomsdoor]

Z Conversion PorygonZ in 7th gen was brutal, Omni boost and the original terra, I also liked running z conversion into a ghost type and spamming round with Mega pidgeot

[@logainwolfe1988]

I started playing in generation 4 and I wanted to use every Pokemon that had the ability Trace so I used Porygon2. It did not take me long to be sold on Porygon 2 as a pivot.

[@bebzunbebzun]

Great video porygon2 always better great stall mon

[@PinkaholicOfficial]

The trace guy is from Let’s Go Pikachu and Eevee btw

[@BubbyBoy]

I can't be the only one who settles on Analytic to give Pory 2 an extra bit of oomph Download doesn't always give

[@laceflower_]

Honestly if Porygon got Plushygon as an evolution in modern day they'd probably give it an exclusive ability that lets it have a free substitute the first time it switches in

[@tedscheett9420]

Porygon2 and Porygon-Z. 2 acts like a tank to end all tanks while Z splits U like 2 and 3 from 5.

[@Skullfiend]

I would die for Zorpy.

[@Porygon-2]

My unbiased opinion is that you are absolutely right.

[@thesparrow1116]

Guy in the top right is your lets go rival, had no idea his name was trace thought it was like, albert or lawrence

[@ajmoment8091]

Something I always thought about Porygon Z is that it should have its own exclusive move. Usually I'm not one to promote signatures like that, because I think way too often tools that would help weaker pokemon just get funneled into ones that would already be strong without them, but if it's something that's proven to be too strong to be on most pokemon I think it's fair. Which is why I propose we give Porygon Z and only Porygon Z a clone of hyper beam that functions on its gen 1 rules, where if you knock out the opponent using it you skip the recharge turn.

[@lonelyxatu8146]

The answer to a question everyone already knows

[@unofficialmeme5972]

Trace is the rival I wish I could erase from history.

[@cecil_cav1810]

As someone who plays Gen 4 OU, Choice Scarf Porygon Z with download is going to be the hottest new tech and no one can tell me otherwise.

[@novastar6112]

6 months later, and ngl EWGF sounds a little dead. I'm glad that they have come such a long way :D

[@tonberry2670]

The Let's Go Rival His name is literally Trace

[@sadcasm6320]

I love Porygon 2 he is so cute and his blue shiny is even better

[@mgllIIIlIIllIIllIIIll]

First video i have to put in .75x to understand

[@fortello7219]

Imagine if they gave Porygon Z an agility that did what Conversion does: Changing it's type (on switch in) to the move in it's 1st slot. (Or more likely last so you can use both.) You couldn't have adaptability, but you *could* run many different types of the same Pokemon like a low tier Arceus

[@tiramisuellie]

i love porygon 2 it's just soo cute

[@twotamatos]

Honestly it’s one of those pokes like gengar and mega gengar where I just use normal gengar over mega and porygon Z over porygon 2 cuz the design is cooler honestly most anything with evolite will be better then the final evo especially when u start getting into stat manipulation with power split and guard split u really can use any Pokémon u want

[@luckylucas8596]

In current gen, I don’t know if P2 is necessarily better than PZ in singles. P2 was extremely solid with Toxic. Now that it doesn’t get it, P2 struggles against bulky set up mons like all of the Bulk Up Fighting types and Calm Mind Psychic infesting NU right now. PZ isn’t great, but Tera has helped it out offensively since it can change to Ghost for stronger Shadow Balls. It can even use Stellar somewhat well because it tends to run 1 million coverage moves on its sets. This might be the first gen since maybe Gen 4 that PZ is better than P2.

[@Literal.Cricket]

Subbed cause why not.

[@evanauer6575]

PorygonZ is the best and no one can convince me otherwise

[@GoodlyData86596]

Was anyone surprised when installing a malicious virus on your Pokemon made it worse than it not having a malicious virus and staying as is.

[@hibbs1712]

TIME TO TALK ABOUT STORM DRAIN CRADILY

[@TheDeathmail]

So basically, Porygon 2 is better in doubles, but Porygon Z is better in Singles.... And originally, Pokemon was planned around Singles overall... with doubles being the tournament type... so I'm guessing that Porygon Z really was originally an upgrade (plus eviolite was needed to make 2 so great).

[@cronical246]

I think Porygon 2 deserves a Sequel that isn't a bugged mod