A real 1980's icon! This 1985 Porsche 928 is totally wicked! CAR WIZARD is freaking out over it!

Yes, the CAR WIZARD 🧙‍♂️ has said he doesn't work on older cars anymore, BUT this longtime customer's 1985 Porsche 928 is a perfect exception. You've got to see this amazing time capsule.
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[@dgraddy1359]

I was 17 in 1986. On of these drove through my small southern town. It caught my eye so I followed to see if it would stop. It did and I asked to look at it. The owner did more than that, he offered to let me take it for a spin, ALONE. Obviously, I did. I was hooked on Porsche and the 928. I still want one of these. Maybe once the kids are done with college.

[@Thumper1968]

I was a year older in '86 (graduated HS that year). Thanks for sharing that story. I would have loved that!

[@1DEADBEEF1]

College is worthless nowadays

[@romulus_]

@@1DEADBEEF1 going to a mediocre college is worthless. if you can get into a good/great one the networking alone could be worth it.

[@travelnguy2002]

In 1984, I was a young kid. A good friend of mine's dad had a friend that had a 1978 928. He took us for a spin, and I've loved them ever since. He showed us a stack of service papers when we got back, and that has always made me nervous to ever purchase one. :-(

[@Tom-yv3zr]

Don’t wait

[@griffins750]

Everyone hates on the 928… Right up until they see a clean one 😂 Then it gets hard not to appreciate it 😅

[@talosiv4927]

RIght?! I think they're still a very cool car.

[@roberttrench465]

Favourite porsche of all time.,.2nd favourite car. Ever since it was in the film "risky business "

[@Thumper1968]

I've always LOVED the 928! It's a beautiful car. $50k in 1985 is the equivalent of a little over $139k today, for reference.

[@valuedcustomer9614]

Multiply 1985 dollars by 2.84 to get 2023 dollars.

[@joseph_the_human]

waaay too much money for an underpowered car. The corvette of this same year was way better and people still drive them on the road.

[@mikedemarchelier9090]

One of the things that helped make it into an iconic car at the time was its appearance in the movie “Risky Business”. Now, Herr Vizard! Porsche is not pronounced Porsch-AH, or PORTIA! It’s actually PORSCH-heu, but this is the US and unless you were German yourself and having a conversation with another German guy, it would sound pretty affected to say PORSCH-heu, so I will allow it in this case …. even though Dr. Ferdinand Porsch-heu must be turning in his grave! Alright, my work here is once again done! 🤣🤣🤣

[@mcplutt]

@@joseph_the_human How can you compare a pushrod engine to this? 😄And how many back seats had the Corvette?

[@mcplutt]

@@mikedemarchelier9090 I suggest you watch a german Porsche video 🙂

[@donreid6399]

When I was a young pup, I used to go to the Porsche dealer and take a walk around their showroom dreaming of someday owning one of the cars out on the floor. One day, while I was drooling over a 944, a salesman came over and asked me, "So, you like Porsches?" I then went into Porsche history babbling on and on until he stopped me and said, "Come on back...I have something I think you'll like." I followed him through the sales area and out into the garage. My head was on a swivel, looking at all the gorgeous cars being serviced. We finally went around the corner and there was a red 1985 928S, brand new ready to go out on the floor. I had never seen one before, and my eyes absolutely bugged out. He opened the door and said, "Go ahead, have a seat." The seats were covered in plastic, and I slid into the driver's side, the scent of fresh leather surrounding me. That salesman knew I couldn't afford a $50,000.00 car, but it was a slow day, and he took pity on a poor kid who just loved the brand. Fast-forward 38 years, and I now own an '85 928S in light metallic blue and still have a life-long adoration of them! 🙂

[@Bubblun1]

I'm an under-50 928 S4 owner, we're out here. I always knew the 928 was cool before I was old enough to drive them.

[@928pcar]

I’m 34 and have 3. My first car I bought an 5sp ‘85 when I was 16 in 2006. I fear I’m the absolute endling of the 928 species

[@TheTardis157]

@@928pcar I'm 26 and have 3 lol. Bought my first an 81auto when I was 15 and just bought a 42k mile 85 last year. We are definitely out there, but very few in number.

[@farginicehole513]

@928pcar @TheTardis157 Keep'em alive, guys!! It's so rare to see a 928 on the road. I have a '84 Euro in my garage, currently a work-in-progress.

[@unowen-nh9ov]

Last interesting Porsche.

[@Flies2FLL]

I drove an '85 Porsche 928S2 5 speed for 19 years and enjoyed the car immensely. As to being "slow", mine turned a 13.86 @ 105 mph at Bithlo speedway. Mine was a "Gray market" car, and the 5 speed makes all the difference in the world with these cars. The 928 was a complex car, with a hairy [for the time] electrical system, which used PVC insulation on the wires. Keeping all the accessories working 100% is a lot of work, but the basic car is bulletproof. Change your timing belt every 45,000 miles and the oil every 3000 miles and these will run 400,000+ miles before needing an overhaul. Porsche's least understood/appreciated car. Great video!

[@mitchhedberg4415]

That is Camry speed these days

[@928pcar]

Mitch what’s the point of your comment? New cars are faster than old cars, we get it. Your same Camry would beat old Ferrari’s and Aston’s…doesn’t make them less cool ya dork

[@TheStefanskoglund1]

@@mitchhedberg4415 A 928 is far faster than 105 mph..... but driving it on a speedway like Bithlo will limit its speed - take it through the Green Hell instead (Nürburgring Nordschleife instead)

[@farginicehole513]

@Flies2FLL. Ahhh, a twin dizzy 16V!! 👍 👍

[@Flies2FLL]

@@farginicehole513 Bastard was fast and surprised many Corvettes and Mustangs. I worked on it all the time, but it was generally fun stuff, accessories, things like that. I traded it for a '14 Cayman S in 2018; I miss the car....

[@oneeleven9832]

928 shape still looks modern today 👍🇬🇧

[@nicoarntz3889]

I was owner of 928

[@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261]

It needs to be parked next to some mundane cars sold that very same year so people can realize how dorky other things were then, and how radical this was. (OK, maybe early 928's looked like eggymobiles, but I liked 'em.)

[@gsczr1]

I purchased a 1979 Porsche 928 from a friend of mind back in 2014. The 928 only had 32K on the odometer. it had never been in the rain or snow. The chassis was spotless. Anyway, back in 1977 when I was a teenager I attended the 1977 Toronto Auto Show. They had a 928 on display. I stood their just staring at it. I wasn't sure if I liked it because it was so different than anything before it. As time when on I came to appreciate the 928. It was arguably the most advance car on the road at that time. I kept the 79 for 7 years and really enjoyed it. It was reliable and it drove like a modern car. I was blown away on how good it was. But, I was approached by a 928 enthusiast and he made me an offer I couldn't refuse. The only issue I had with my 928 was trying to find a service department that was willing to work on it. That was very frustrating, hence another reason why I let it go. Personally I think ;the 928 is one of the best Porches ever made. Cheers!!!

[@tempest411]

Half the fun of owning these cars is working on them yourself.

[@pederfallbom]

Agree, I have a 79 and it is a timemachine. Drives so modern and effortless. Sublime car indeed

[@resipsaloquitur1857]

I see you mention Toronto...I also owned a 79 928-a black 5 speed, for 16 years in Toronto and found a great small repair shop called Eurocars and they fixed mine until I sold it in 2016 and they were always good and with fair repair costs. The owner is Arthur Drodz and he has been in business over 30 years. A very small busy garage located on a small street on the south side of the Queensway just west of the Ikea store west of Kipling. Of course it is rare to see a 928 these days (June 2024) although there is one in my condo parking garage...a late 80's 928 S4 I think. I now really like the 1993 to 95 GTS models which are now quite expensive if in good condition.

[@philipscougale2075]

I totally get the reasoning on not wanting to work on old cars anymore, but the old car videos are my favorites. I grew up in the late 80s and 90s so cars like Porsche 944, 928, and C4 Corvettes were the cool cars back then.

[@terrylessmann2274]

Sharks are SO cool. Owner of an '89 S4 5-spd w/ 56K mi.

[@michaelpate4774]

You found and fixed that hatch receiver problem in a heart beat. You should get a medal. Most of us 928 owners do weeks of head scratching before we get working hatch latches.

[@johnhinston958]

Mid 80s at my one cousin‘s bachelor party my other cousin had a 928 as a company car he worked for a lease company. On the way back from the bar I got in the back it was only a two seater. One of the other cousins Tried to race him. At that point my cousin dropped from third down into second. And I got to hear that engine at full throttle. It was like a symphony. I’ve been in faster cars, but I’ve never heard of sound quite like that engine double overhead cam V8, yes

[@resipsaloquitur1857]

I owned one and actually they are 4 seaters although the back seats are not very big if you are tall and/or "large". 😊

[@stonepa]

I bought a new red 928S 5 speed in 1986. I ordered it every single leather option - dash, headliner, trim, etc. fantastic car that I drove maybe 10k miles a year as my summer work car. A couple of cool interior details you missed. The gauge pod was the first that floated above the steering wheel when you tilted it so the gauges were always visible. The center console was really designed for a mounted car phone, which is why it was so small. I bought the Porsche phone and it was my first mobile phone. Service was through US West. The door locks were engaged by twisting the round knob on the door card. The car was mechanically extremely reliable over the 20 years I owned it. Wish I could say the same electrically. The fuse panel, in classic 1970’s fashion, was made up of surface mount circuits and fuses mounted to a piece of plywood under the floor of the passenger side. Eventually, as a daily driver will do, the wiring connectors and insulation caused problems and occasional hard starts. Sold it after 210k relatively trouble free miles. I still miss that car.

[@talosiv4927]

Yes. I remember being slightly horrified on mine, after having a look at that plywood-mount setup for the fuse compartment. Beyond that though, my '89 S4 was pretty solid, and was quite reliable for me.

[@mfkliegenschaften5420]

Thank you Wizard for correctly pronouncing Ferry's (ie Ferdinand) name. Porsh ... really sounds like an insult. It honestly makes a big difference. By the way, back in 1985 when I studied in Paris, there was this red 928 right in front of my university and I knew that one day I would get a Porsche from Werk 1 in Zuffenhausen/Stuttgart. Br from Frankfurt Germany.

[@donswier]

I recall seeing one in 1978 in Bellevue Wa, at age 12. Picture a 928 amongst the chromed Cordoba & Cutlass Supreme pimpmobiles of that disco era. Stunningly Avant Garde👍

[@ToniKainulainen75]

Greetings from Finland 🇫🇮 Wikipedia says like: The body is mostly galvanized steel, but the doors, front fenders and hood are aluminum to lighten the weight. The bumpers are elastic polyurethane.

[@lawrencelieberman2278]

In 1982-85 during my Highschool years, I was driven to school each day by one of my best friends in his Red 1982 928S Automatic. Yes he was 15/16 yo. It was purchased new for 43k at the Porsche Dealer in Tx. Im 55yo and yes now looking for a good 928 (88-90). Very hard to find one with a good interior .

[@josephhertzberg2734]

I used to have a 79 manual. Really great car. If you can get a sorted one, it's nothing but a win

[@stephengreen3566]

To this day, I still think this is the most beautiful car ever made. Yes, I am over fifty. LOL

[@talosiv4927]

RIght there with you, on both counts ;-)

[@Steverz32]

People said they would disown the brand if they built an SUV😂And the suvs are their best sellers! I have love these since my boss took me for a ride in his 928 S4👍 still one of the best memories of my life!👍

[@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261]

Back in the days of the 928, people said they would disown the brand if they built a four-door sedan. Now they Porsche builds those and SUV's.

[@resipsaloquitur1857]

​@@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261 Yes...the Panamera for example.

[@d.o.a.garage]

When I was 22, I got to drive a friends '82 back from a trip to the lake - about 100 miles. Road smooth and had more power than I had ever experienced. I'm in my 50s now and yes, I'm vulnerable to the bug of buying one. Oh, and those back seats can only be used by pre-teens and Asian girlfriends.

[@johnstoneberg5532]

I had a 87. Silver and blue interior. Great road car, fast and comfy. Currently I have a 21 Turbo S coupe.

[@darylkik6204]

Wizard is 100% about 50 and older. I am 55 now and still in love with the 928 especially the 928S-4 thanks to a little known actor "Tom Cruise in a movie called "Risky Business". Not sure if he or the car was the true star of the movie. Beautiful car you have on today. (Just think of no 911 and driving a Probe instead of a Mustang GT.)

[@TheTardis157]

I am one of the few young enthusiasts. Bought my first when I was 15 and I'm 26 now. There are very few of us though, probably like 1% of all 928 owners lol. It is definitely a car popular with the 50+ crowd as they now have the money to buy one when they couldn't back when they were new.

[@ocker2000]

928 was a dream I once had, and yes I'm over 50. Very nice to see one in good condition. Having you taking care of it is a big benefit to the owner. I drove a red 944S2 for almost 10 years as a daily driver. I love these cars and the driving experience they gave me. But I would not invest in one today. A new time has come. But sweet memories for sure.

[@cubiczirconiabeard5366]

Miss christina drives a 944, satisfaction oozes from her pores, cocaine on the dresser, marble on the floor.......from Boomtown, by David and David in 1986

[@chrislagerquist591]

The 944 was half a 928 motor the problem with 944s they don’t have the access panel to replace clutch you need to pull the whole torque tube but they fixed it with the 968 refresh. 928 guys were buying up all the 3.0 pistons available for the 968 and making a larger displacement v8 out of the 928 I forgot the shop name near 928 international in anehime I remember going down one year and someone had sent a gts from Europe for the upgrade they also upgraded the original computer with new parts and there is a tune program for them. I think I remember there was an issue with gts’s going thru catylitic converters so you would want to do updates to the computer so it wasn’t so converters would last all these cars were built before obd2 so there is a lot of specialty stuff you needed to diagnose them with fords you needed a pin out box you would put in between computer it was a lot of work dodge was cool you would just turn the key like 3 times and count blinking lights Chevy you would use a little 2 prong key or paper clip and count the blinking check engine light boy how far we have come.

[@griffins750]

Speak for yourself old man! I’m a dumbass 19yo and I’m currently set to look at an 81 928 this week! Pray for my poor mother 😂

[@davidjacobs8558]

Perhaps Porsche should develop brand new 928 using Panamera platform. remove back doors, and Voila !!! can't be that costly. or use Taycan platform? if they prefer electric version.

[@machtschnell7452]

@@davidjacobs8558 Porsche considered it and decided the business case was too weak.

[@swissmrkc]

My favorite car as a little kid, I remember being about 4 or 5 years old and seeing the shape of this car and thinking it was the coolest thing ever..... That was back in 1987..... If I had a money tree this would be my first car to get.

[@LMacNeill]

A 928 *can* be had for less than $30K -- but then you'll spend whatever you "saved" on repairs and deferred maintenance, bringing your cost up to $30K or more. And the "facelifted" models, 1987 and later, go for even more money. I've seen a low-mileage early-90s 928 S4 5-speed go for over $100K. My wife *REALLY* wants one of these. Hence my reason to pay attention to their prices on BaT. As soon as I have a spare $30K, I'm definitely going to get her one. Gonna be a few years, tho. ;-)

[@TheTardis157]

I bought one recently with 41k miles for $27k. It's a red on red all leather 85, basically a higher optioned car than this one. You can find them if you wait ;) Although I did by my other 928, an 89 S4 for $4500 and it now has 218k mostly trouble free miles on it so don't let high miles scare you so long as it was always taken care of!

[@davedovala2700]

This beautiful 928 is just crying out for a complete detail and a period correct head unit.

[@troyammons9994]

I have owned four of them over the years, and when running right they are a dream and the most comfortable car and my favorite of all time. However, they are real money pits. And they eat rear tires in about a year. And nobody knows how to align them properly. The electrical system can be a nightmare. The last 928 I owned, I calc'd the $ I was spending, including tires, and that was if nothing major went wrong, and it worked out to about $250-300 a month just in maintenance and small stuff. And that was almost 20 years ago with me doing all the work. My third was a custom twin turbo setup on a 78 engine making around 500 hp with a GTS body kit.

[@bicyclist2]

The 928 has always been my dream car since I first saw one. So glad to see the owner got a 5 speed manual. I still hope to own one some day. Thank you.

[@slickfrictionless]

I remember the video when you bashed the 928! I don’t think you know the car well enough! I’ve owned my 86.5 five speed, that looks identical to that one, for 25 years and it has 200,000 miles on it! It has been maintained properly and because of that it’s been the most reliable vehicle I’ve ever owned. It’s never failed to start and it’s never stranded me. It’s an over engineered marvel that when taken care of like it should be, can easily get over 300,000 miles on an engine block coated with silicone.

[@TheTardis157]

My 89 S4 has 218k miles and only left me stranded once because of a partially loose battery terminal (the small one that provides power to the computers) Not bad for a $4500 928. PS The top half of the block is made from Reynolds 390, otherwise known as AluSil. The silicon is part of the alloy! No coatings needed unlike the Vega...

[@pocher69]

One of my favourite Porsche's and they still look great today!!

[@chrislagerquist591]

Hey love your episode I started buying them in 2000 my first was a 5speed manual euro without a sunroof I bought it for $1500 and drove it home from la 200 miles that sold me on the 928. I would go to anheim to 928 international every October they had a meet it was neat seeing almost 100 of them all in one place. The clutch is so easy to change you don’t have to pull the transmission just like Saabs you can looosen the shaft and pull it back and unbolt the clutch pressure plate the 79 had a 2 friction plates and a metal intermediate plate. I rebuilt the rear calipers the rubber kit was like $20 I found some good parking break shoes in the wrecking yard but I don’t think they were expensive new 928 international has everything for the 928 even some new improvement parts rollers for the window lift brackets and other parts. The American 928s got a 32 valve 4 cam V8 while the rest of the world got the better dual distributor 5 litter dual cam. In 1997 all markets got s4 dual overhead cam motor the engine had a different intake than the American 85&86 if you get an American 1986 with a serial # over 1000 you have a 1986 1/2 it has the larger s4 brake calipers. The early cars 77,78&79 had mechanical fuel injection in 1980 the American cars got electronic fuel injectors and Europe stuck with mechanical. Manual cars are rare but the 5 speed is not an overdrive. Just a few things to get you started I have had 10 but I am down to just 3 s4s now. Talk to mark Andersen if you can’t find anything he’s got it he probably won’t be the one answering the phone he owns 928 international good luck check out his racing videos it’s pretty awesome seeing the 928 tearing up the competition on the race track

[@chrislagerquist591]

Sorry 87 was when the s4 came out in 89 they got an led odometer in 90 they got airbags in 93 they got a larger displacement 5.4 gts with larger rear fender flares the production was very low with them winding down production I think they only made 500 the last year 1994 ending with a green car with purple interior I couldn’t make that up but people with money can get anything they wanted man I am getting old

[@gonzotiki1]

A fellow refined cult member I see! 😉

[@rmp5s]

One of my very earliest memories is riding around in the backseat of one of these that my dad was test driving...there were air conditioning vents between the back seats and my little kid mind was BLOWN...lol

[@toms7280]

My dad had a white 928 when I was a high school senior in 1983. He let me drive it once, with him in the car. There is no substitute for what he didn't know, didn't hurt him.😜

[@hertzair1186]

Sounds like your business was risky at home

[@lukespector5550]

Just don't shower with Bronson Pinchot watching.........

[@billkiessel6682]

Joel?

[@cswann8]

Man....the 928 is the ultimate 80's nestalgia. Also, for not starting the car and letting us hear the exhaust notes, I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[@gonzotiki1]

Honestly once sorted and regularly driven 928s are super reliable. My ‘81 doesn’t have a ton of power (a Toyota mini van could probably out run me) but it does have a ton of panache and it’s comfy AF burbling down the back roads! Cool vid Mr Wizard!!

[@TheTardis157]

My 89 S4 has 218k miles. Currently sidelined though as it needs a timing belt and I haven't had time to do it. Keep them serviced properly and take care of all the deferred maintenance and they are extremely reliable cars.

[@resipsaloquitur1857]

The 1993 to 95 GTS models were pretty fast for a heavy car back then.

[@BaltimoreAndOhioRR]

Ioved this car back in the day! I drove a used on for a test drive back then, but someone convinced me to walk away due to the astronomical repair bills in the future. I still love this car, though.

[@davidcooks5265]

The 928 is more of a grand touring car, it's a great car to pop over to Italy or south of France it would be effortless 🤠✌️

[@laurat1129]

I like this "Por-shuh... there is no substitute", and it's largely b/c of Risky Business. ("Who's the U-boat commander?") This 928s is esp. nice, 5spd and modern HP. Yes, I can see why the owner enjoys this car.😎

[@mitchhedberg4415]

How come it could not outrun that malaise era Caddy though?

[@johnmcdermott9559]

Was traveling on rt.80, three lane highway. Middle of nowhere, cruising 70 mph. Out of Nowhere a 928 flashes by, easily going over 100 mph. Scared me to badly cuz I didn't see it Coming. Never forgot that moment.

[@lesflynn4455]

Such a sweet car. I've always loved the 928. The story of the car is amazing, how Porsche thought the 928 would replace the 911. The tables turn.

[@cmartin_ok]

In 1985, this was my dream car but I was only in my 20's and I could only afford a Honda Civic (when the average age of a Honda buyer in the UK was 60-something) . I had the Honda for 18 years and it was probably the best car I've owned, but I still dream of owning a 928

[@SAMMYJR00777]

keep dreaming no action smh lol

[@timcarpenter2441]

I have always loved the 928. It is a true GT that allows the driver and passenger to travel vast distances effortlessly at speed. I have always been a true GT kind of person, and today I despair that so many vehicles are all "Sport" models, with harsh ride and industrial/carbon fibre interiors.

[@rallywagon261]

Honestly though. The older GTs are better anyway. Things these days have to follow to safety and emmisions mold set out for them by the various DOT/DMVA/TUV/whatever the UK has, organizations. So while the badges are different, so much of the looks and performance are beginning to get muddled.

[@MrJerry1902]

For me the only Porsche worth considering is the 911 this might be a nice car but styling of this car did not stand the test of time like the 911.having said this because of its condition like any old car should be cherished and looked after and a joy to have.

[@Loafinbaker]

I've had a soft spot for 928 and 944. Just loved the body styles.

[@SAMMYJR00777]

u need to get one

[@JosephFlemming]

As a kid, I had a generic 928 “matchbox” car and it was my favorite. To this day I still think it’s one of the most beautiful cars ever.

[@donmacquarrie9161]

head turning - first time I saw one - my jaw dropped. I thought it was a space ship from the future

[@rogerpritchard]

I owned a manual 1979 928 for ten years. Great car, complicated electrics and parts expensive. Wonderful design. Very strong and effortless to drive across Europe.

[@rellmonger7935]

I wanted one of these. My neighbor across the street had one. The car was ahead of it's time. Ran good

[@overthehilldill3626]

I was 16 yo when these first came out and i was in love. When i turned 17 i wanted to buy one but of course i couldn't afford it so i ended up buying a '79 Mustang pace car. A friend of mine worked at a mechanic shop that had Porsches there and had a '80 928 come in and the owner let us drive it around the lot. Man what a dream car back then.

[@2packs4sure]

Like the Car Wizard I'm big into interiors,,, the design, layout look, all that,, and when I was a kid the 1st time I got a look inside a 928 I couldn't get over it.. I was so in love with those things.... The Thunderbird Super Coupes had a similar effect on me.

[@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261]

I came of age during peak Pasha interiors! Still have nothing against Pasha.

[@farginicehole513]

​@@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261That's because pasha is the coolest!

[@keithcurtis6671]

I LOVE the 928. I worked on weekends in the early 80s driving cars around for a used car dealer that only dealt with high end Euro cars with the occasional Toyota Supra and Corvette. There were 3 of us in our early 20s and the dealer would trade cars or buy trade ins all around NY and New England. One day the 3 of us took a Volvo wagon to a Dealer in NY and picked up a Toyota Supra, a 1980 Jag XJ12 Vanden Plas and a 928. Drawing straws I got to drive the 928 back to the dealer we worked for. OMG want an amazing car to drive, so planted at high speed. Instant love, though I could never justify buying one.

[@toolzshed]

I had a toy 928 growing up, it was silver and had those telephone dial wheels. It could go forward and reverse turn with a single button remote lol

[@kar4tube]

I'm one of those 80's kids that dreamed of owning one of these. Man, this one is just as beautiful as when it was new. Loved this video Wizard!

[@patrickopitz3209]

I want to move from SoCal to Newton, KS just to be closer to the Car Wizard!!! David, I love your philosophy of doing right by the customer and their cars. You help car owners and classics like this remain where they belong... on the road being enjoyed. Well done! By the way... now I know why mine won't close properly... the plastic aligner piece... lol. Thank you!

[@TheTardis157]

Join Rennlist. All the questions you will have on these cars has probably already been answered, but if not. There are literally hundreds of us active in the 928 forum ready to answer and help as needed.

[@eva5601]

He is so very right about the age. My x gave me a 1987 porsche 928, back in mid 1993, when I was 28 years old. The reason I don't have the vehicle anymore was because my x asked me if he could borrow the vehicle, in which I did. 😰😰😰 He totaled it drunk driving.

[@davidt3563]

I just realized I've never seen under the hood on one of these! My first car was an 89 Firebird, for a horsepower reference it had 175. So nearly 300hp back then was amazing!

[@BMan100]

Always preferred the 928's, but sadly each time I went to look and actually purchase one I'd get out bid, or it would require far too much to fix up... so in a Challenger Scat Pack (manual) it was, same vein a GT car.

[@MustangsTrainsMowers]

I remember going down a 2 lane road on a pizza delivery 30 years ago and a 928 accelerated and passed me like I was sitting still.

[@fredmahar5431]

A friend had one a 928.....fantastic car and fast as hell !!!

[@F1Oversteer]

First car I ever drove! Ran over a nail in a car park and caused a puncture obviously as a kid I couldn't be responsible 🤣 What a great example of an underated cruiser.

[@mitchf1508]

Risky Business and Scarface are the notable movies I remember seeing the 928 back when I was in my early 20's and those movies first came out. Wasn't a fan of them by any means, but those movies were cool... "Who's the U-Boat Commander?"... :)

[@farginicehole513]

What about Weird Science?!

[@TheTardis157]

For those wondering, used parts on 928s are very easy to get and usually not that expensive. A used caliper for this gen is the same in the back as a 944. They're like $50 and a rebuild kit from ATE is $7 last time I used one.

[@slickfrictionless]

Absolutely! I get all my parts from Mark Anderson at 928 International as he has a plethora of great used and rebuilt parts! His refurbished A/C control units are about $350 versus buying a new one at well over a grand! When you own these cars for a long time you learn how to service them quite affordably!

[@TheTardis157]

@@slickfrictionless Yep! If you want to make that head unit last, add an inline relay and fuse to the AC compressor clutch. The factory setup used the relay in the head unit as the fuse! They really aren't that bad to fix parts wise if you use OEM numbers instead of the Porsche ones. They always rip you off at the dealer for service parts.

[@slickfrictionless]

@@TheTardis157 totally agree!

[@eva5601]

I owned one. Read my past post. Now I am debating if I should buy another one from someone who is selling a 1982 Porsche 928 right now.🤔

[@eva5601]

​@@slickfrictionless Please give me more information on where to buy the parts. Thank you.

[@captelvis106]

I love my 1981 928. Thanks for giving this Shark some Wizard love!

[@bretspangler8717]

Blaupunkt would have been a more correct aftermarket upgrade for a Porche, they were an OEM radio maker in Germany. A very cool car. I would love to have one.

[@cswann8]

Yeah....I definitely wouldn't have chosen Kenwood for a Porsche restore. Blau or Alpine. Obviously you can't get an 80's vintage stereo easily...but a Bremen SQR 46 DAB wouldn't look too out of place in this car.

[@Onewheelordeal]

​@@mikeyt6456 That Continental unit for Porsche is honestly a great choice for any 80s/90s car. They really nailed the look it's just a shame how expensive it is for what you get so nobody will ever pick it

[@richardwhiting3216]

Or a Becker

[@GuyChapman]

Or Alpine (more BMW but often seen in dealer supplied upgrades)

[@xellium5445]

Interestingly, Blaupunkt is the base radio in the Pontiac G8 and the GTO as far as I know

[@komradkolonel]

I love the 928 especially the 928 S4. The downside to them is that they are complex so working on them isn't for the faint of heart. That and getting parts for them isn't always easy but they were built at a time when Porsches were more mechanical and far less computerized and electronic than today.

[@jamesheverin1293]

DOOR PANEL....!!

[@resipsaloquitur1857]

928 International in California is good for parts.

[@farginicehole513]

928SRUS in Texas also has almost any parts you will ever need. Ask for Roger!

[@roberthoffhines5419]

Glad you can remember 1985! i was technically old enough to bu one then, but definitely not wealthy enough! Good 80s movies with 928s are "the Hidden" (good Porsche vs Ferrari chase scenes) and of course..."Risky business"

[@2bunphettered788]

"The Hidden" is a good movie!👍 Another 928s movie is "Weird Science". 😉👌

[@resipsaloquitur1857]

...plus Scarface with Al Pacino.

[@andyjohnson6548]

I have an 1985 928 myself and I love driving it and working on it. You are doing a great job taking care of that guys Porsche. Great video 👍👍

[@bigkev10101]

Beautiful 928. Tom Cruise would still want to drive it.

[@rgerard5083]

I used to see Coach Bill Walsh of the SF 49ers tooling around the bay area in one of those. He'd drive 60 in a 65 zone.

[@talosiv4927]

I zeroed in on this episode with gusto. I've always loved the 928, and owned an '89 S4 years back. It was an amazing car and I often wish I still had it. A distinctive design, and althoug it was a heavy car, for the time at least, the 32V V8 provided plenty of power.

[@RicoCantrell]

Porsche there is no substitute. Love these cars.

[@gsmith207]

nailed it Wiz! Im 55 and would trade one of my Millenial children for this! Just kiddin kiddos! ha Seriously though I graduated in 1985 and this was my dream car on my wall. Thanks Mr. and Mrs. Wizard!

[@doughamm5590]

Good looking Porsche. Year I graduated. My neighbor has one in his garage looks almost identical

[@Broadshore]

Sadly... I got a friend who actually did an LS Swap on one of those 928. The poor 928 had a Blown engine. SO! He decided to swap her old engine out for the LS. He lost the value of the Car doing the conversion over. But! He still drives her around. Glad to see a nice 928 that is still. MINT!

[@nukedathlonman]

I'm glad that didn't happen (discontinuation of the 911), but I'm sad they discontinued the 928. I know people say the Panamera is the spiritual successor - but it just isn't the 928.

[@Firestorm637]

People must remember with expensive cars maintenance is important. These expensive cars are cheap now but if you do not keep up with the maintenance people say that are unreliable and expensive to repair. No aftermarket parts for expensive vehicles. Old motorcycles and old vehicles need more maintenance vs newer cars. If you wait a red light to appear or put things off it will cost even more to repair.

[@Ron-uq2hg]

I’m the late 1980s I had a friend who had a had a New 911 metallic bronze painted with if my memory is correct had quite a few coats of clear coat on the paint. Itlooked beautiful the shinning bronze flakes. One week of ownership and someone keyed both sides of the car. It is the only time I have ever seen a grown man with tears streaming down his face. He had the car repainted but he was never able to feel relaxed in it after that and he sold it about six months later. It was a beautiful car.

[@absolutelynonameslef]

People suck. Badly. I've never owned a high end car but there are times where I feel awkward driving my GS 350, especially in less affluent areas.

[@chrislagerquist591]

My first 79 had a bullet hole in the aluminum hood and a dent in the steel driver quarter panel that car was my first experience with the 928 those cars are so solid I bought it because I thought paying $5000 for a 1966 fastback 6cyl mustang was too much money. I like the turn signal placement on the euro and getting a speedometer that went past 85 mph is definitely a plus with a gray market car the mechanical injection is the way to go the electronic injection was horrible on the pre s4s (1987) you get car of the year and every one steals your ideas having the heater hole in the door panel that sends heat out the door panel what’s the first time I saw it in old 79 928. I also figured out where the idea for the rear sun visors came from in my 1985 Chrysler lazer yes I said that correct there was a Chrysler lazer it was a twin to the dodge Daytona (1984-1986) before the eclipse,TSI eagle and Plymouth lazer. Cheap front wheel drive fun in the snow country k platform at its best.

[@johannjohann6523]

Beautiful Porsche. Proof that if you take the time and give it the love it needs your car can last a long time, look great, and be your friend. It's all about the TLC - she's a lady, regular maintenance, and regretfully - parts availability. Thanks for the video.

[@joantanner8426]

928 is a real sleeper. Much more fun and handling than 450 sl! The car with an automatic is as nice or better. He has a very nice example! It feels like you are in the cockpit of a 747. It is a very fun road car.

[@OB928]

They are different “animals”. I have a 928 and a 560SL; different cars for different moods.

[@quicksilver462]

And on this episode, the WIZARD dives into some "RISKY BUSINESS!"

[@billd66]

These cars will always remind me of the movie _Risky Business_ . It's an iconic movie car.

[@farginicehole513]

Weird Science

[@fredvandevelde4576]

Had the same model for 13 years, great car bullet proof motor, my 2 kids grew up in it going to and from school every day , they oved it too. Only sold it when they out grew it and could not fit in with their musical instruments surf boards etc. When I sold it was in immaculate condition.

[@shiftfocus1]

The 928 was launched about the same time I was really noticing “nice” cars. I’ve always loved the styling, especially the interior: the way the dash flows into the console and doors is brilliant, simple and functional. The front engine/rear transaxle layout was unusual, but hardly unique, having been used in everything from Ferraris, Alfas (including the Milano you just had in your shop), to the original Pontiac Tempest.

[@SharpblueCreative]

My favourite Porsche of them all. Remembering Tom Cruise in ‘Risky Business’ in his fathers 928 being chased by Guido the killer pimp. Cruise loses Guido and utters “Porsche, there is no substitute”

[@mikesage9544]

I love 'em. Always remindes me of the escape pod Roger Moore and Barbera Bach used to exit Strombergs under water contraption......... It is a shame though that the engine never was their own. That horrible Kenwood needs the be rehomed in the crap scrap container. The car would benifit from a Blaupunkt SQR46 DAB which I believe is configurable for every world market. The speakers may need to have the diaphrams renewed.. Best wishes from Mike in the Black Forest.

[@TheTardis157]

What do you mean? The engine was designed in house at Porsche.

[@mikesage9544]

@@TheTardis157 I read years ago that the basis was a Mercedes V8 which P modified. Maybe the artical was in error?

[@TheTardis157]

@@mikesage9544 Most likely. The automatic transmission however was Mercedes derived and actually built by Mercedes with a Porsche specific housing and tuning. The internals are all Benz.

[@tedstriker754]

One of the challenges for cars in that era and older is the molded padded dash. For many classics getting old those are just not available. Upholstery shops can restore side panels, headliners, carpet and seats. But the molded dash is not easy to bring back and none are available. The older 70's Z cars are in the same boat.

[@scootypuffjr.]

Mine had a leather dash if I remember correctly

[@macstone9719]

I once owned a 1984 944 2.5, which had the 928s engine cut in half to make it a straight 4. Very nice handling Porsche too.

[@sundown798]

As far as hydraulic brake parts, calipers, wheel cylinders, clutch master cylinders or whatever. We have been using Apple Hydraulics for years to rebuild all makes and models. They re-sleeve with brass inserts. Been really happy with them and affordable.

[@TheTardis157]

Whitepost is who most in the 928 community use now. They offer the same service resleeving masters, slaves, etc. Really a valuable service when new parts are NLA.

[@sl5946]

What a beauty. My first car was a 1984 928 so I'll always have a place in my heart for the 928.

[@jroemling]

Thank you! It irks me as well when people say Porsch, like: why do you think leaving out letters is something you should do? Especially established car KZbinrs, haven’t they gotten enough comments over the years? Well, at least we can trust the Car Wizard to know his European cars and their names.

[@sopwithsnoopy8779]

I had a book of supercars in the late 80s that had pics of a couple of 928s as station wagons. If I am remembering correctly, they built a couple as station wagons to be used at Le Mans as emergency vehicles, and found out the longer roof line actually added a few mph top speed. Maybe I am mis-remembering and it was a different car 🤷‍♂️ but I am 'pretty sure' they were 928s.

[@TheStefanskoglund1]

I believe Ferdinand Piëch had one of those as his personal car.

[@paulb1034]

Car Wizard, you make a good point about problem diagnosis, many garages for modern cars employ fitters and not mechanics who will fit parts until the problem is solved rather than identify the fault first.

[@cellpat2686]

I love the 928 but sadly I don't have the pocket to maintain it. Love the later more aerodynamic models though that one you are going to fix is not bad at all. Also at one time the 928 was the fastest production car in the world. Porsche had made a TV ad touting that fact.

[@gordonno11]

Restoring a 78 euro right now..... absolutely love this car!!

[@Daemonarch2k6]

Nice porsche. I like the facelift models like the s4 more. When i learned semi-truck mechanic in my youth a customer of our shop who had a truck-company came privately with his s4 to check it. I had tears in my eyes, that poor thing was about 2 years old, and inside it was destroyed with tons of cigar ashes including branding holes in the beautiful leather seats, the completely interieur was basically shot. If i had the money, i would own one of these, they still are not very popular here in germany and pretty affordable

[@canman4058]

50/50 weight distribution, V8 sound (not vw sound), and looked OK. Best Porsche ever!

[@jamesmancuso3666]

I am surprised you didn't point out the under panels directing air over the front disks. The opening in the backing plate allowing air to pass through the wheel was cutting edge tech back in the 80s.

[@Johnboyjws]

I have a uk 928 s4 owned it for 17 years 5.0 V8 32V silver/blue. What a car !

[@rosschamberlain1823]

Beautiful car. Back in the day I had the honor of driving a production prototype S4 and what an experience that was! Now regarding that brake issue, check the wheel bearing & CV joint to make sure the grease didn't get cooked, considering how hot it became, if you haven't already. Been there

[@bravobravo9783]

1985 to 1986.5 928s engine was a transition engine from the 4.7L 16 valve (non interference engine) to the 5.0L 32 valve (interference engine). In 1987 Porsche introduced new improved 5.0L design in the 928S4.