A Scale With Two Faces

[@12tone]

I forgot to link to Sideways in the description! It's here: kzbin.info/door/i7l9chXMljpUft67vw78qw

[@romajimamulo]

Would you mind adding the notes to the description, for ease of access?

[@fitzdraco]

The final song sounds a lot like something out of the 8 bit video game era. I approve.

[@danielf3623]

I agree, it sounds like Mario bopping through a haunted Egyptian pyramid.

[@excitinguniverseofmusictheory]

Hey! Thanks for the mention! So glad you enjoy my work. Cheers ~ Ian Ring

[@thealientree3821]

If I would name this scale, it’ll probably be Dimygian, after Diminished and Phrygian, because it’s the Diminished scale that wants to be Phrygian, but has to keep the 8 notes and tritone.

[@JBergmansson]

I love that name!

[@excitinguniverseofmusictheory]

hey. please DM me - I'm going to add this name to my list, and would like to annotate it & give attribution with your real name.

[@themathhatter5290]

Congratulations! You got your name on it!

[@AMTunLimited]

"Sideways... everyone's identifier of leitmotifs" Too on point, that's funny

[@Rain593]

I immediatly thought of hungarian gypsy minor when you wrote out this scale (1 2 b3 #4 5 b6 7)! This scale seems pretty wicked honestly

[@LordDragon1965]

Love how you put this together. I have ZERO talent writing music so I'm not gonna try your challenges but I am learning. And that is all I can ask of a channel.

[@happypiano4810]

Please PLEASE make more of these scale challenge videos.

[@mertatakan7591]

3:18 **happy phantom of the opera noises**

[@Viviantoga]

I have no idea what Foundtion to Decrease Worldsuck does but they have my full support based on the name alone

[@doggy7210]

What a brilliant name for a charity.

[@IsYitzach]

They are a project of the brothers Green on The Vlogbrothers. They are a collector of funds that hands out money to other charities that actually do work. If you ask Google, I'm sure you can find their website. Or you can look for their big yearly event "Project for Awesome", you might get further with "Project 4 Awesome" or "P4A."

[@thejontao]

Would you be willing to do a scale not based on 12-TET? I’d like to hear what you can come up with. Nothing too crazy, just a 9-note 17-TET scale or something.

[@Lesyeuxouverts]

they 17-EDO scales are interesting indeed : en.xen.wiki/w/17edo#Scales

[@jaschabull2365]

You and Sideways are friends, eh? Should've suspected that. You two are my go-to music channels, cool you're pals.

[@mikejones-vd3fg]

Cool tune, it sounded like something you'd hear in a King's Quest game when you'd approach a nefarious character.

[@oravlaful]

that short song you composed sounds SOOOOO zelda-y!! i really really loved it!

[@sebastianzaczek]

I've recently been playing around with scales and chords a little bit and i stumbled across this "chord": C Db E Gb. What i find interesting is that when you don't care about enharmonics you will find every possible interval between two notes of the chord (if it's repeated for some octaves so larger intervals can also be found): m2: C-Db M2: E-F# m3: C#-E M3: C-E 4: C#-F# 4+: C-F# All larger intervals are just inversions or some octaves plus the interval. Do you think there might be something interesting to discuss about this small set of notes? For example, i believe that this is the smallest amount of notes out of which any interval can be built, but do other such sets exist?

[@12tone]

Good find! That's a device from musical set theory called the All-Interval Tetrachord. There's actually two of them: The one you described, and then C-Db-Eb-G. Another similar concept is the All-Trichord Hexachord, which is a collection of six notes that contains every possible collection of three notes inside it.

[@DTux5249]

Love this scales sound

[@batteringram6123]

I was expecting tab for a cause to be for guitar tab

[@woomy8971]

haha I love the “mind the gap” drawing

[@coryman125]

It was the London Underground symbol, right? I've had to hear "mind the gap" a painful number of times during my trip here, so I was gonna leave a comment about that until I saw yours :P

[@woomy8971]

@@coryman125 I think so! I visited London last year and I remember that they even sold "Mind the Gap" shirts at some stations.

[@MisterAppleEsq]

I live in London, so “please mind the gap between the train and the platform” is permanently emblazoned into my brain.

[@EdSharpe]

Cloned Emotions kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6SXpXduidCHjtU A piece written response to 12Tone’s [kzbin.info/door/TUtqcDkzw7bisadh6AOx5w ] challenge to write a piece based on his Sideways Scale: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnSZqX-eiN5qq9k What I ended up with is short three minute atmospheric “tone haiku” for solo piano. I eschewed using triads from the scale, preferring to use open fifths, fourths, tritones, and minor second clusters from the scale.

[@Benji2N]

Diglett makes an appearance for the 2nd straight week. Let's keep this going

[@MisterManDuck]

Oh oh! What about the next scale challenge is one that's not bounded to one octave? Like maybe it spans between the root and the (approximate) 3/1 or 4/1, and the 2/1 octave note is just a possibility and not a necessity?

[@teucer915]

When you say not octaves my first thought is truly non-octave scales, like bohlen pierce, but having scale that spans something other than the octave with standard notes is fun - old Japanese tetrachords are the only thing I happen to know about with that and they're cool.

[@MisterManDuck]

@@teucer915 Might be a feature of tetrachordal music as a whole. Even though it's often that you'll land on the octave in Maqamat, it's not necessarily a given.

[@jawsh1971]

It took me a while to spot the gummy bear. I was beginning to get anxious, like hearing only the first part of Shave and a Haircut.

[@therealandrew185]

This was super cool! I've been trying to create a new scale myself (I hope it will be a useful tool in making my music sound more unique and original). It becomes very difficult to find something that hasn't been used, and to make it not sound awful though 🤣

[@Algo1]

lol'd at Diglett being a fairly frequent pokemon, it is but in one cave. Zubats and Pidgeys are the plague.

[@eugene1317]

As a person that doesn’t know much about Pokemon I feel like I just read some form of German 😂

[@johnathanwilson1363]

I miss these

[@eugene1317]

That sounds like that old paranormal show I think it was like celebrity ghost stories or paranormal witness or something that is crazy.

[@pantheon777]

I had an idea to try to make Locrian more usable by adding a major tonic cord. And that's how I found Styptygic on ianring . com. So basically you have the i-dim, i-minor, I-Major, and I-Aug, and a whole lot more. I tried using it with the Enigmatic scale challenge, and it works pretty well. There's a lot of overlap.

[@DrZombieDeadpool]

analysis of BUS RIDER from the napoleon dynamite soundtrack WHEN?

[@SuperMegaPeanut]

would love to see one of these with a scale that doesn't repeat at the octave!

[@veiledAutonym]

I do hope Ian Ring has been updating his database with the new scales you keep analyzing!

[@Lesyeuxouverts]

the song was sppoky, I liked it

[@DavidC-dg3nl]

Accept this prayer almighty algorithm This is a really interesting video, too bad the algorithm does not see it that way

[@enricopersia4290]

I wann hear this little piece of music of yours in the next Jojo season :D

[@Marunius]

I would really appreciate any recommendations of music using that scale :). Especially happy about your original compositions!

[@ZipplyZane]

It might be nice to feature a composition (even if only a link) here on KZbin. Twitter is semi-ephemeral, and hard to go back and find things. But if you link the Tweet elsewhere it could be found.

[@QueenB_Music]

I love your song analysis. I was wondering if you would like to analyse Imagine dragons. Any song. I’m quite fascinated by the power their songs use musically. Powerful drums help, what else do you think adds to it?

[@gustafrindestal]

A scale with "Taserface" 😂

[@ericperry1861]

Would love to see what you do with multi octave scales. I.E. a two octave scale that does not repeat the tonic within that span of two octaves save for the start and finish. The interval pattern changes as you go up the scale, so while some notes can be the same in the second octave as the first, not all of them are. Found this idea while in China and playing a very out of tune toy xylophone that had an amazing sounding two octave scale.

[@Lesyeuxouverts]

you may want to try Bohlen-Pierce scale : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohlen%E2%80%93Pierce_scale

[@jackthesmoltangerine]

*hears diminished scale* RADIOHEAD?!

[@woekin]

A B C# D E F G# Any mode. Also could you list ones you’ve done, in any format.

[@woekin]

Well I found it in Ian Rings book. #2777 I also found how I could name my 11 note scale (in 19EDO). I was just calling them first Ionian and second Ionian.

[@bighugejake]

I can't see "sideways" in the description.

[@BrettHollett]

Elephants? I just thought they were dudes with big chins

[@jeanbonnefoy1377]

oops, you ate all the gummy bearz?

[@jasonhacker7270]

That sounds like 80s Nintendo rpg music

[@Ghost-rb5tg]

I was reminded of the Deku Palace theme from Majoras Mask

[@oenwilson2486]

I just realized he sounds like PhoenixSC if he had a higher voice.

[@Covesthur]

*Symphony X reference for no reason*

[@10mimu]

will 12tone do a face reveal?

[@marsmusicman7612]

Hi there. I was wondering about Neapolitan minor and major progressions.

[@darkiee69]

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[@johnathanwilson1363]

Guys no one cares if ur first just appreciate the vid

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