A Terrifying Fight For Survival (Pulkovo Flight 612) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN

[@DisasterBreakdown]

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[@alexhoe02]

As someone who’s worked incredibly hard translating Pulkovo 612s CVR, unfortunately you’ve made a few mistakes on the subtitling. Still a good effort nevertheless. For the people interested, I have fully deciphered the CVR (no unintelligible parts) along with the photos of the crew.

[@conipilote1634]

@@alexhoe02 can you give me time codes for those mistakes? Or maybe write incorrect lines so I will be able to find them in the video

[@alexhoe02]

@@conipilote1634 I’ve uploaded the CVR on my channel. I highly doubt he’ll correct the subtitles unfortunately, most bigger KZbin’s never correct their mistakes. It’s a shame considering the First Officer really pushed at the captain to decend. (Which this KZbinr missed out in the subtitling) I don’t like to criticise other KZbinrs but I’ve done a lot of research on this accident, very graphic considering I know the backstory along with crews relationships with one another. Some of photos of the wreckage are just outright graphic.

[@beatriceyuzefpolsky4797]

Q

[@jamesstuckey2732]

youre doing great man, keep it up. and THANK YOU

[@ClefairyRox]

The pilot in training staying quiet until the very end when he said "I don't want to die" broke my heart. This whole situation is tragic, but that line in particular got to me.

[@sarahest1]

23 years old. SMH - What a tragic and unbelievably sad waste. Trying to better himself and do something with his life and this is how he’s rewarded? His family must have been beside themselves with grief. He didn’t even have a chance with this flight crew from hell 😣

[@pascalcoole2725]

To bussy saving the plane.

[@Commentator541]

@@sarahest1 These older planes are low tech, and are as safe as flying in the 1960s. The crew obviously flew for many years prior to this faithful flight.

[@tomasg6206]

@@Commentator541 The crash was the captains fault fully.

[@Happymali10]

I wonder if he thought he'd done something wrong

[@jessejohn7406]

Captain: "STAY CALM!" Also Captain: "FUCK FUCK"

[@MaxusR]

They have already passed the point of no return when he said "STAY CALM", that's what the most heart breaking to me.

[@sammygirl6910]

No kidding. Maybe it's a Russian thing?

[@adotintheshark4848]

"stay fucking calm, you fucks"

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

@@sammygirl6910 I don't think it's a russian thing... it's a general thing were you might be in denial of the situation. "STAY CALM!" in the most not-calm voice would be an indicator in probably every language that things are FUBAR.

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

what a clown

[@M1SSC0RPSE]

Don't know if this really matters to anyone but at some instances they refer to each other with nicknames so some not familiar with slavic languages might not get it. The pilot is calling the first officer Vova (derived from his first name Vladimir) and the flight engineer and navigator both call the pilot Vanya (from his name Ivan, a very very common name both in Russia and in my country). So to those who noticed this and were wondering what these random words meant, here you go.

[@sleepy4325]

Thanks for this. I was actually curious about that.

[@sarahest1]

I had to look it up the first time I ever watched it (different channel) so this is definitely helpful to many! Nice work.

[@Kiefy6886]

Thanks. I listened to the recording on another channel and didn't know what Vanya meant

[@M1SSC0RPSE]

You're all very welcome! :)

[@williamdunlapwaxnews]

Great information 👍.

[@isabeltunes7090]

I watch a lot of videos like these so usually CVR recordings don't bother me that much but there's something about this recording specifically that deeply disturbed me maybe it was for the fact that the pilot in training stayed quiet until the very end where he said "i don't wanna die!" or just the genuine panic in everyones voice when they see the ground approaching i'm so sorry for the families of everyone in that plane

[@x-planeliveriesandstuffsho1074]

I don't have problems listen to that, for me it's western airlines flight 2605 cvr that is hard to take. Maybe b.c. i can understand what they are talking.

[@sammygirl6910]

It really was brutal. The next time D.B. warns me, with timestamps, that the CVR is going to be bad, I'm going to listen. 😢

[@EngrPalits]

The Fact The Line " Don't Kill Us Don't Kill Us" while the the whole cockpit are completely disarray shows the 3 Co-pilots knew who is the person to blame & totally avoidable if the Captain is not a asshole crew management in this flight is disaster from the get go

[@AviationNut]

Here is a much worse CVR from a DC-10 crash in Mexico city: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmGnpYp6g9-Zabs Let me know which recording is worse, this one or the DC-10 crash in Mexico city. I personally think the DC-10 recording is the most gut wrenching out of all CVR's.

[@AviationNut]

@@EngrPalits It's crazy that when the first officer and the rest of the crew wanted to push the nose down while there was still time to save the aircraft before it entered deep stall the Captain called them "f-ing idiots" and said that they must pull up instead. It was the Captain that was a f-ing idiot, he is responsible for everyone dying.

[@mehashi]

Feels like if one of the flight team just knocked out the captain right at the start they might have been able to think their way out of the problem instead of follow his self destructive panic. "Don't descend you idots" as he is in a stall... encouraging the guy he is training to do the worst thing, "pull up"... just brutal. RIP all on board.

[@MrTaxiRob]

STAY CALM! DON'T PANIC!!!

[@JosieJOK]

Yeah, it seems like the worst problem for this crew was the captain. I feel most sorry for the pilot in training (and the helpless passengers, of course). When he said “I don’t want to die” at the end, that just gripped my heart.

[@adotintheshark4848]

it all started because the captain had erroneous and also incomplete information. You can't fault him entirely. I also think he lost some spatial awareness too, which is common in clouds and turbulence.

[@sarahest1]

Poor kid never had a chance with this flight crew from hell.

[@sarahest1]

@@adotintheshark4848 Not completely, no. But a very substantial chunk of it fully was. Dude was a madman.

[@AviationNut]

It's crazy that when the first officer and the rest of the crew wanted to push the nose down while there was still time to save the aircraft before it entered deep stall the Captain called them "f-ing idiots" and said that they must pull up instead. It was the Captain that was a f-ing idiot, he is responsible for everyone dying.

[@robertmcghintheorca49]

To say that the passengers and crew suffered an absolutely horrifying final few moments of their lives would be a masterpiece of an understatement. It's just like that scene from the film "Top Gun". Not only would you be falling to the ground like a rock, but you'd be spinning around like a merry-go-round. Let's hope and pray that we never have to go through the nightmare that they did.

[@shanna3148]

I hope the g forces knocked some passengers out... it would have been a small mercy, especially for the children

[@SaraU_U]

“i don’t want to die.. don’t kill us don’t kill us” heartbreaking and horrific

[@badgerden7080]

It's a testament of how fragile and precious life is. God bless you and keep you safe, Sara.

[@SaraU_U]

@@badgerden7080 You too~

[@ClefairyRox]

That line broke my heart Andrei was only 23 years old, and it sank in for him right there that he was going to die A young man taken well before his time by a series of tragic mistakes. I sincerely hope he is resting in peace.

[@SaraU_U]

@@ClefairyRox so true ☹️ he just started his life with a new career .. you can tell how scared he was.. may they rest in peace

[@alexhoe02]

Unfortunately that line is wrong. Andrew said: “Don’t kill us, please don’t kill us”.

[@zeez88]

"Dont kill us" , " I don't want to die" really gave me goosebumps. He literally saw death before his eyes.

[@sarahest1]

Truly horrific

[@Ama-hi5kn]

He was a young man with most of his whole life ahead of him. Horrible sad loss.

[@leechjim8023]

Poor kid!

[@FELIMORPH]

I’m Russian and that CVR was just… Absolutely brutal to listen to. I’m already afraid of flying despite the fact that it’s statistically the safest way to travel and I can’t even begin to imagine what the crew and passengers felt like before it was all over. Holy shit.

[@renata8979]

Also Russian, and I'm surprised I've had (mercifully?) absolutely no memory of this happening, no news coverage, nothing, which I find very strange because there's usually a lot of coverage, not least because such events are, luckily, quite rare.

[@PsychoKat90]

@@renata8979 I'm Russian three and I had a hard time understanding due to the audio quality (also I think I just don't know some of the airplane jargon), but it was terrifying all the same.

[@LeUtubeAcc]

Russian four checking in. Same experiences.

[@ekesa07632]

Russian five and word for word Got a flight in a few days and I’m like 🗿

[@renata8979]

@@PsychoKat90 I agree, actually, if there were no subtitles I would not be able to make out anything. Although, to be honest, I skipped some parts and mostly read the subtitles for the rest without sound because CVRs (same as ambulance/911 calls) are a bit too much for me.

[@greenpony2817]

To all the critics who write: "They should have done this and that..." It is IMPOSSIBLE to get the Tu-154 out of a flat spin. Due to the aerodinamycs of its wings, when you surpass angle-of-attack limit at the maximum allowed hight, tail just stops working. (wings completely block the flow). Moreover, due to the fact that its engines are located in the tail, the back half of the plane is much heavier. It was proven in all the simulations and tests, you cannot lower the nose of tu154 during the flat spin. The only chance for salvation for the pilote was when they just started to go into a stall. But when the surge happened and the plane began to fall, it was already too late.

[@cjohn5453]

That CVR was absolutely brutal. Great work as always.

[@NateDates]

Theres just something about the panic in any cockpit right before death that's so chilling and terrifying, yet I can't stop listening till the end. Heartbreaking.

[@adotintheshark4848]

this really wasn't so bad. There are recordings of a doomed crew screaming as the ground loomed ahead.

[@NateDates]

@@adotintheshark4848 oh believe me I've heard worse too but that doesnt mean this was any less horrifying. Watching death come straight at you is terrifying for anyone, I'd even be horrified If their was complete silence, accepting ones death is much more scary imo cause you're okay with what's about to unfold knowing there isn't a thing you can do about it.

[@shariys1]

@@adotintheshark4848 Comair 3272

[@LoowheezeBreeze]

8:46 First Officer: "Let's descend, angle, angle of attack!" Captain: "Don't descend, you fucking idiots!" 1. In instances where the safety of all onboard is at stake, a FO must be willing to take control of the situation when a captain is using poor judgment 2. Had I been in that cockpit on that fateful flight, my final seconds of life would've been spent repeatedly throwing my fist into the captain's face

[@bigjohn8916]

#BigFacts

[@zackviccaji6342]

The First Officer was in jump seat, the trainee was beside the captain

[@ta666ak666]

The FO wasn't at the controls, instead it was the trainee with less than 200hrs under his belt. In my amateur opinion, that was also a bad idea given the circumstances. Maybe if it was the far more experienced FO, he'd pushed the yoke to start a descent, gaining speed.

[@billkerman4314]

That CVR has got to be one of the most disturbing ones I’ve heard. Tragic

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

The crash wasn't good either

[@LoLMasterManiac]

I laughed my ass off listening to their screams, lmao

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

@@LoLMasterManiac seriously?

[@PsycheTrance65]

@@LoLMasterManiac who's a tough boy? who's a tough boy? yes you aaare! here's a cookie for being such a tough boyyyyyy

[@PixelTrain1]

@@peepa47 really?

[@JB-mb6lm]

The "I don't want to die" and the "I love" killed me.

[@squillz8310]

Same here. The training pilot was quiet until the very end. Him saying "Don't kill us" just shows how inexperienced he was and that the captain was giving him the commands that put them in that situation. Jeez it's rough to hear.

[@sarahest1]

Poor kid never had a chance with this flight crew from hell.

[@ekesa07632]

I was somewhat unaffected by many CVR recordings cause I’ve heard them so much, but somehow when I hear them in Russian, since it’s my first language, It makes me much more panicked. Maybe it’s the phrasing or the intonation. Also some other CVR recordings you don’t hear the pilots talk desperately like they’re helpless. They’re not screaming for help or like they don’t know what to do. Their voices are more tactical sounding. Unfortunately, no CVR recording is ever pretty :(

[@squillz8310]

Right, most of the CVR's I've heard were the pilots being of course troubled, but professional and calmer. I have heard others that were more panicked but this one was especially chilling. Knowing all of the context built up around it, makes you really understand more of what they were experiencing. The fact they got more panicked once they knew it was unrecoverable, that just shook me to the core.

[@JustinLHopkins]

@@squillz8310I suppose none of us really know if we will be capable of maintaining a calm state in a situation like that.

[@lordz19]

It’s insane how much effort you put into these. Thank you for the content! I come watch these every week.

[@DisasterBreakdown]

I appreciate that, Thanks!

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

@@DisasterBreakdown great work mate

[@hectorpalmatellez]

Thanks for this kind of content and the warnings to jump ahead in case one doesn't want to hear the audios. Keep up the good work!

[@JJsOriginals]

It's the famous Hector Palma Tellez! 🤯

[@hectorpalmatellez]

@@JJsOriginals lmao yea

[@Yosetime]

That poor kid who was under training went down without saying barely a word except "I don't want to die. Please don't kill us". Aside from his tragic fate, I think his choice of words was very telling. I think he was referring to the arrogant and rather useless captain who refused to allow them to recover from the initial stall before it was too late. They would have done better to remove that captain from his seat and fly the plane themselves. That captain was out of control before the plane was.

[@Carlito_Brigante93]

Exactly

[@Benamon9]

Bureaucracy over life

[@JohnnyADi]

This guy has my favorite narrating voice, style of editing, and visuals out of all of the major air investigation/disaster channels. Well done

[@bepowerification]

Including mentour?

[@JunisaurousRex]

@@bepowerification that’s what I was gonna say as well. I love this channel a lot and he does amazing work, but mentour is on a different level, being a pilot himself.

[@mercuryzam]

just fyi that Chloe, the one making these vids is a girl

[@sfakianos7]

>guy Oh boy

[@JohnnyADi]

@@sfakianos7 nearly a year old

[@Richaag]

All those calm pilots having to deal with a ranting, unprofessional captain is the cause here. How someone like that is allowed to captain an aircraft is mind numbing. RIP to that flight crew and passengers who died at the hands of incompetence.

[@princeofcupspoc9073]

He stopped swearing once they got into real trouble.

[@geraldh.8047]

It’s not named the “Crazy Ivan maneuver” in the Hunt for red October for nothing.

[@dsandoval9396]

It's kind of interesting, I know someone who does what he did in the audio recording. Mainly he yell "hold still!/hold it!", "don't drop it!" (doing remodel work), and the like when he's the one who's losing his grip or something related. This captain seemed to be losing his marbles before anyone else and he's yelling at everyone else to calm down. Okay.

[@B3Band]

I think the cause was the severe weather followed by the ground impact, but you do you bro

[@geraldh.8047]

@@B3Band yeah without ground impact, nothing would have happened. NTSB needs to solve this „ground“ thing.

[@davidoltra6077]

Appreciate the effort to write all the subtitles. Thanks for the video!

[@DisasterBreakdown]

No problem. Thanks for watching!

[@ThatAviationGamer]

@@DisasterBreakdown i know this is real late, and im not sure if you answer questions or not, but I'm wondering how you reacted when you listened to the final moments of pulkovo 612.

[@Maymin_Animations00]

@@DisasterBreakdown At the end of the CVR, I think he either said "I LOVE YOU, MAMA!" or "I LOVE GOD!" followed by the scream

[@ireneangelucci3733]

Omg that recording was something else😭 I did start crying when the trainee said I don't want to die, heart wrenching stuff. You are sooo good btw, your videos are next level. Thank you for your work xx

[@SidGolan]

Why didn’t the Captain take control of the aircraft much early on when they realised they were in trouble? He just kept shouting out instructions to everyone including the pilot in training who retained control of the aircraft until impact, and asking the FO to help Andrei (pilot in training). This seems really odd and against conventional procedure?

[@wolfgangwust5883]

Yeah, very bad CRM.

[@squillz8310]

I mean, even if the captain took the controls, HE instructed the pilot in training to pull up while they were stalling. It's clear he wasn't trained much in stall recovery. So if he took the controls, he would've done the same thing he told the other pilot to do. Same scenario would've played out

[@DarkFilmDirector]

The captain was the problem. His panic induced commands destroyed this flight. The pilot in training and co-pilot knew what to do, to stop climbing and actually descend to gain speed. Because of the captain, he pushed the plane upwards so much in unstable air that it caused the plane to fall into a stall. They still could have pulled out of it if the captain had not continued to insist on climbing, the co pilot should have just descended and ignored the captain's panic. But once they fell into the tail spin, it caused the engines to flame out, making it impossible to restart the engines and regain control. The crash was inevitable at that point.

[@TheOriginalCFA1979]

To be fair, had they immediately corrected the error, they possibly could have avoided the stall. However, the first officer was the pilot flying during the climb and had already put the plane into a dangerously nose high position at extreme elevation and held it there. That was the error that needed to be fixed immediately. Based on the information in this video, they went immediately into a deep stall which is regularly unrecoverable. The turbulence from the wings washes out the horizontal stabilizer (T-tailed planes like this one) and the elevators stop working, so even if they had of started doing everything right once the stall initiated there’s a good chance the plane wouldn’t have responded. The pilot in training had the nose up past 40° at the start of the stall if I heard this video correctly, so not all the blame should lie with the captain. The captain’s orders might have stalled the plane, but the co-pilot’s interpretations of those orders made a bad situation worse, and made sure the stall was unrecoverable. Final note I’d add, while not an argument I normally give credit to, take the flight from Brazil to France where the copilot held the stick back all the way to the water because the PITO tubes froze up and he didn’t know what he was doing. A LOT of people give him A LOT of slack because “he got two simultaneous contradictory warnings, an over speed warning and a stall warning! It wasn’t his fault!” Now again, I don’t give this argument much credit, but pilots are trained *not* to fly into thunder storms because of the danger the turbulence poses to the plane, they are also taught to push the nose down in the event of a stall. So the correct choice, as we know, was to push the nose down and fly into a thunder storm, which means he’d be choosing to do something he’s trained to simultaneously always do and never do. If the pilot who couldn’t interpret the over speed and the under speed warnings going off at the same time deserves complete exoneration, I feel this guy deserves at least a little slack. When the co-pilot let the plane stall with the nose so extremely high, the crash was inevitable at *that* point. If all the engines were running it wouldn’t have been able to push its self out of a deep stall, because it required elevator authority the plane no longer had due to the wake turbulence the elevators were in from the wings. And again, I didn’t scour the original Russian report using the fluent Russian skills that I don’t have, I’m just basing these conclusions of the information that was presented here. If I misunderstood and the plane stalled, it progressed into a deep stall, which then progressed into a deep stall with a flat spin (a stall, a deep stall, and a flat spin being three different phenomena and not the same thing), please correct me. But my understanding from this video is it was a deep stall that progressed into a deep stall with flat spin, which is a very different sequence of events where the amount the pilot in command is inputting on the controls drastically changes their responsibility for the crash. Kind of like if I was the passenger in your car and you drove into a crowd of people, it would probably be hard to blame me legally unless I had reached over and jerked the wheel. Depending on who made the choice or if it was an non-negligent accident to turn into the people would decide who, if anyone, in the car should be condemned for the action. And I’d say in this car, the whole flight crew share some blame. Because “keep climbing” doesn’t mean “point the nose of this plane higher than it should be pointed for any reason at cruise altitude.” The captain gave bad orders, the pilot in training put the plane into a dangerous position following those orders in a way his training should have stopped, and nobody else on the flight deck stood by their objection to the captain’s plan. They spoke up at least, but they didn’t try to explain why they think he might be mistaken.

[@vertigo2894]

@@TheOriginalCFA1979 How did he climb so high at 49 degrees? Man, isn;t that like a basic no no? How did he fly like someone who never flown a plane before? Isn't climb angle and descent angle like the most basic of stuff?

[@milanmocik3591]

This CVR is haunting but one gets used to it after that one where the pilot is straight up screaming for good few seconds before the impact cuts the radio - i think it was in USA and the pilots mistakenly landed at the wrong runway which was under heavy maintenace. Followed by the Polish president TU154 right after it started hitting the trees in heavy fog. It first took the wings but the fuselage was still largely intact, but the forces that cut the wings also catapulted the pilots into the dashboard propably braking bones but not knocking you unconscious so you just hear the painfull screams. Yep, thas life. "This is it baby" is my favorite tho.

[@billzi7001]

where can i find videos about what you are referencing?

[@milanmocik3591]

@@billzi7001 not on youtube. for a reason i can assure you. beware that once you find the audio files it may haunt you.

[@AviationNut]

Here is the cockpit voice recording of Western Airlines 2605 a DC-10 that landed on the wrong runway in Mexico city. WARNING it's gut wrenching: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmGnpYp6g9-Zabs

[@AviationNut]

@@milanmocik3591 There is no real CVR recording of the Polish presidents plane crash, all the CVR recordings are recreated. The Polish government never released the real CVR and the reason I know is because I am Polish and i remember the journalists asking for the CVR but the government said no. The government instead had an actor recreate the CVR from a paper transcript. The other crash that you're talking about that landed on the wrong runway was Western Airlines flight 2605 it was a DC-10 that landed on a runway under construction in Mexico city and here is the cockpit voice recording: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmGnpYp6g9-Zabs

[@apathyzen9730]

It's pretty common in Russian culture to swear too much, especially in case of distress. Nobody would take this personally in such circumstances.

[@peepa47]

who doesent swear during distress?? nobody takes it personally, only you soviets take everything personally

[@vertigo2894]

@@peepa47 They are so unprofessional. Swearing at everything even during a serious job. Makes them look immature even in their senior years.

[@vertigo2894]

@BB49 No, that is an ignorant statement. Relatively speaking we have nothing on the Russians and some Eastern European countries.

[@conipilote1634]

Hello. Thank you for making this video. The crash site of this flight is situated in less than 200km from where I live Also on 7:12 that is not a "questionable language" it is 100% normal. I would say even way too normal for people in such a horrible situation. I am surprised that they didn't use any heavy swearing words only a few lite everyday swearings. Nice video as always!

[@nekomasteryoutube3232]

It really is sad when accidents like these happen where regardless of what caused it, and no matter how hard the pilots and crew try, the result is the same and its quite tragic. What makes it even worse is when you know enough about airplanes to know when theres pretty much no hope of saving the aircraft and disaster is imminent

[@OopsOlliePopp]

These videos always give me chills, but something about this specific flight recording just shakes right through me. Your videos are always incredible

[@charlesclager6808]

Scary video. Don't like hearing the last words of doomed people. The saddest words to me were the pilot yelling to the trainee "Help me Andrei." or words to that effect. Lastly I do not understand why a trainee with a very few hours experience is still the pilot flying.

[@starpupstudio]

The content warning before the audio recording is VERY much appreciated. Thank you for considering those of us who would find that a bit too much to handle.

[@JanKunzmann]

I'm usually not an emotional type when it comes to VCR recordings of crashes. But this is so heartbreaking it brought tears in the eyes.

[@badgerden7080]

I usually don't cry during your videos, but this time, I couldn't hold back my tears. May God rest the souls of everyone on board. R.I.P.

[@squillz8310]

Definitely rough to watch and listen to, but put together with such respect and professionalism.

[@equin_xx]

@@davehagen2540 it's the cockpit voice recorder, likely.

[@SociallyDistantnow]

You’ve captured my nightmares and deepest fears about flying in a KZbin video. Haunting. Great video as always. Thank you so much.

[@kat.w.RBF444]

Very detailed (and appreciated) work on the translation of the cockpit voice recorder. Your videos are so well done.

[@sarahalbers5555]

You did a wonderful job on this. It truly is bone chilling that with all that experience, they made so many horrible decisions. May they all RIP, and their families heal from this tragedies. Thank you.

[@unintentionaleffectiveness4393]

I will say that a lot of these recordings are mostly interesting. Somewhat of morbid curiosity, if I’m completely honest. BUT every once in a while, when pilots break down and start panicking or say that they “don’t want to die” it’s almost like you feel you shouldn’t be hearing this… like watching a narco video of their killings. You think you have the guts and toughness until you experience it and realize that those were real people. Idk, it might sound weird but today (although a great video) I didn’t enjoy myself in the end. I feel like that’s enough of this content for a week or two. Nothing wrong with it, just personally I feel I need to step back a bit. Rip to all of those that lost their lives in the most awful way possible

[@willemgijs3803]

Well that's good for you. I've become completly decentized from anything like that. Including gore or the narco video's as you call them. Not something to be proud off tho. But it's still just curiousty. It's just that I can (until now) literally watching anything. But for me it's also somewhat of a reminder of how cruel things can be. Or how cruel people can be.

[@peepa47]

all russians are like this, being macho and threatening, but when it comes down, they will cry and beg. I wouldnt want to do that. sad thing, most of the people didnt have to lose their lives over a 50year old dead ideology

[@cogitoergospud1]

They have cartoons on other channels. Roadrunner always gets up after he hits the ground.

[@AB-xd8ft]

Oh my god that recording broke my heart , I’ve always wanted to become a pilot but your channel made me change my mind 😢

[@Alicia-BG]

The pilot was the most hysterical one since the beginning.

[@mikem.3308]

Right, he reminds me of Michael Scott in the Office during the office fire. STAY CALM, STAY F***ING CALM!!

[@Alicia-BG]

@@mikem.3308 lol, yup! 😂

[@WilliamnWendySue]

FIVE pilots watching the aircraft fly off the charts and not a one of them knew how to recover.

[@onundosvifsson6735]

Once it entered tailspin, it was over. Tu-154 is impossible to recover from tailspin

[@1am2strong4you]

Captain and F/O exactly knew that they're in flat spin since the beginning, but sadly TU-154 is unrecoverable from spin due to his T-form tail

[@greymark420]

I have heard a few CVR's , this really was a terrifying recording. Thank you for the subtitles that helped a great deal in understanding this incident.

[@robertdeberardine3637]

that was the toughest video to watch, the panic in their voices is real. thank you Disaster Breakdown

[@kentoyawazaki2625]

Captain: Don't Panic! Also Captain: *Panics*

[@エーテル的な]

can you blame them

[@adamaudette3325]

I dunno, it seems to me this captain was thoroughly unfit in temperament and guidance to be serving as an instructor to this kid.

[@tio9428]

I remember that crash very well. What upset me most is the fact that there were so many children on board, full of excitement of coming home after the holiday. They were killed by the crew, so avoidable.

[@craigusselman546]

Killed because of Ivan Jackass

[@FreedomAirways]

yeah, the pilot in trainig was kid too, he just listened to the fucking unprofessional captain

[@blinkie1114]

I pray for everyone who did not get a peaceful death. Our awareness gives us the wonderful tools to make our lives our own but also makes humans unique in our capacity in experiencing such enormous fear and grief. I wish no one ever experienced such a burden. This was so tough to listen to. Thank you for bringing the memory of these people alive, for all of us to witness and sympathize and grieve with.

[@tdestroyer1882]

Amazing Video! Judging by your Patreon I thought it would be flight 571 that crashed into the Andes mountains.

[@DisasterBreakdown]

I will be making a video on that at some point though

[@katleigh4513]

The difference in meters vs feet is due to flights being equipped to measure air pressure in mmHg in Europe/Asia (I believe, not sure on the specific countries that use it) vs the standard in North America using kPa instead. The term “flight level” refers specifically to any aircraft operating in the Altimeter Setting Region (starting at FL180/18000 ft). The altimeter setting region ensures uniform vertical separation of aircraft by forcing all aircraft to set their altimeters to the same setting, in NA this is 2992 kPa. If air pressure readings at ground level indicate that the pressure has fallen below 2992, FL180 becomes an unassignable altitude, as any plane operating at that altitude with the altimeter setting of 2992 would actually be closer to the ground than 18000 feet, where every 10 kPa is equivalent to 10 feet of alitude, if I recall correctly. So, the switching between using meters vs feet is probably more innocent than it seems. If you’re used to switching between the measurements a lot, such as with regular flights over the ocean, it’s probably a case of the colloquialism “6 of one, half dozen of another.” I hope this helped a little bit, if you have any questions about it I’m a Canadian Air Traffic Controller and I can answer or find answers about a lot of obscure aviaiton things.

[@armpitification]

Thank you!

[@gamerd9271]

upload videos

[@brianrouillard3279]

I'm not particularly knowledgeable about aviation but I can tell you with complete certainty that the atmospheric pressure at 18000 feet is not 2992 kPa. In fact, 2992 kPa is roughly 30 times atmospheric pressure at sea level (about 100 kPa). You might be thinking of INCHES of mercury, inHg, in which case 29.92 inHg is, roughly equal to atmospheric pressure at sea level (29.92 inHg = 760 mmHg = 101.325 kPa = 1 atm)

[@khomjak8533]

You're confusing a lot of stuff and giving wrong info. This is just russians respecting the rules of the independent country Ukraine. The altitude, flightlevels and heights in western Europe, have been measured in feet for decades already. In Ukraine (and Belarus too i believe) at this period they used feet (in hundreds) for the flightlevels; like almost everywhere on the planet. And i think they also used feet for altitudes and heights, but this might have been weird numbers derived from metric heights. Given they were in Ukrainian airspace, they would use flightlevels in feet for this segment. Central Asia and russia used at that time still heights, altitudes and flightlevels measured in meters. So most likely the flightplan was filed with a metric flightlevel, a stepclimb to F360 at the boundary and another level change going back into russia. In their flightplan would probably have looked something like this (but I do not know actual values they used) ... K0830S1070 waypoint airway firboundaryWAYPOINT/K0830F370 airways firboundaryWAYPOINT/K0830S1170 airways till home. S1070 is flightlevel 10700m. A couple years later, i think around 2011, (for sure before 2014 when i lost interest in almost everything russian) this was changed as russia + Central Asia implemented RVSM in feet for the flightlevels. Pressure setting units for altimeters vary to this day around the globe. Most common is hpa (or mbar, but it's the same thing, as 1bar =10^5 Pa). Also used in former USSR, but not common anymore was mmhg (millimeters of mercury). Usually these settings are called QNH, when using reference pressures corrected to sea level, thus measuring altitude above sealevel; less common (but once very common in the east) was QFE, setting local reference pressure, measuring height over the reference point. Hence, at Almaty airport a QNH setting would yield a reading of about 2000ft/600m on the runway, setting the QFE would read 0. In North America offcourse a different system must be used. They use inches of mercury (but call it "altimeter" which imho is a dumb term given it does not specify that it's in fact QNH, not QFE). For reference: Standard pressure, also called QNE: 29.92inHG = 760mmhg = 1013hpa

[@J_vb]

It’s beyond me how one can understand what they were saying… mad respect Listening to the cvr normally is not a problem for me, but this one gave me the chills

[@alesso02]

In 13:49, the trainee, Andrei, said "I love you, mom!" before the recording ended.

[@CYMotorsport]

Mate my favorite sound track yet- great work!

[@rationalbacon5872]

That was rough. To hear. The vid superb as always though.

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

Yes bad crash . But when people make mistakes they die

[@Panda-cute]

@@kirilmihaylov1934 why are you going through half the comments victim blaming? Yeah mistakes were made but you don’t need to be so harsh about people who died

[@squillz8310]

@@Panda-cute agreed.

[@amazingazblo0239]

Out of all the recordings and CVR's I have listened This is really the most brutal CVR Recording I have ever heard in my life....all the crew as specially the moment where the FO said "WE ARE REALLY GOING DOWN" send CHILLS IN MY SPINE and specially Flat Stalling Blind until that moment has been not a really plesent moment for passengers onboard that doomed flight....What a great video. I pray for the Families who lost their loved ones in that day in 2006, RIP to all who died 🙏🙏🙏

[@Paellain]

A similar accident happened days ago in Brazil. The T-shaped ATR entered a deep stall.

[@LighthouseCape]

Most of the CVRs ends in either crews not fully understanding what was happening until the abrupt cutoff by impact, or trying to keep calm till the end. In this case, despite the chaos erupting within the whole cockpit crew, except for the young PIT not saying a single word until he sees the ground rapidly approaching and begs for mercy in fearful voice is one of the most chilling stuff... (even if I don't understand Russian, the tone of fear in his voice is already dreadful enough)

[@aimilios439]

Well, after that, I think we are in need of a long overdue disaster averted video... Great work.

[@097jupiter]

the “I don’t want to die” 😭😭😭

[@Sacto1654]

This crash reminded me of the early flight issues with the 727-100 in commercial service--a couple of planes crashed because pilots didn't know about the dangers of the _deep stall_ caused by the T-tail design.

[@derekgrayjr]

The captain was more worried about the storm than stalling the aircraft. It sounds like he was hyper focused on the storm and ignored all other warnings from the aircraft or crew. Interesting to note that the young pilot in training kept quiet until he saw death coming.

[@_-KR-_]

That recorder is a hard listen. Im still haunted by three recordings in particular, and this one mostly reminds me of how the japanese aviation accident was, the whole crew was on full gear to fix it but it wasnt enough and final words of love are heard. It is terrifying to think about these things playing out in such a relatively long period of time. Nothing like the near instant when the one plane hit the ATC terminalor when the private jet couldnt get air and dropped into trees in front of the runway. I guess all of this is to say it is heartening to hear this captain fight the whole way down remaining focused on the singular needs to get the craft stable and right.

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

Bad flying yes

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

which accident

[@richardshiggins704]

Excellent reproduction ! Deep stalls are highly unrecoverable especially with T configured tail planes . A similar event occurred with the Trident Staines crash in the UK when it entered a 'super stall' due to inappropriate flap retraction after TO . In this case it must have been terrifying for all concerned judging by the CVR .

[@fanatic26]

It blows my mind that the captain didnt take over controls as soon as something started going wrong, instead letting a kid with training wheels on stay in control

[@amirulhaziq4679]

ummm it was the pilot who caused this chaos,the trainee and the co pilot supervising him knew what to do but the captain alpha male status and arrogant plus the bad CRM caused them to held their intentions to overcome the stall

[@MeeMeep41]

You didn't pay attention to the Captain's mistakes, did you? HE caused the crashed, and if he had not provided stupid instructions TO the trainee, it would have been prevented. Tell me, what difference would it make if the Captain decided to take control, whilst also having the same directive, and intentions of keeping the nose up instead of down?

[@PsycheTrance65]

This is the third time I've been warned in a DB video about the CVR being depressing. (Other ones were the Gol 1907 and JAL 123 videos) And this is also the third time I ignored that and regretted it. That was absolutely sad :(

[@birdbrain4445]

One of the most horrifying CVRs ever, really. I have a morbid curiosity for aviation disasters and CVRs, and that fixation genuinely did a number on my mental health over the years. I have to say, for me, having it put into a video with your calming narration and tasteful music to precede and follow it makes it a lot easier to handle for me. I find your videos extremely useful for learning about this subject as a result; as it's a lot less uncomfortable than reading about it by myself in silence... or listening to CVRs only for it to end in silence, once tragedy struck. Thank you.

[@JasonPullara]

The CVR's in these videos usually don't get me, but this one was utterly gut wrenching to listen to.

[@asteverino8569]

The captain was unprofessional AF. Making a bad situation worse. Rest in Peace you all.

[@tonisiret5557]

These blokes couldn't even run a kitchen, much less a plane. Sorry for the passengers. Amazing video as always! 👌

[@ahronrichards9611]

The last moments of the CVR was unnerving. The PUT saying "Don't kill us" and "I don't want to die" was just sad. Just finished watching the Western Airlines 2605 video that went out and these two CVRs were just frightening. RIP to those who died.

[@jjaus]

I have zero experience with T-tail aircraft, but during my PPL training, I did stalls and spins. One thing I know about them is that you do not bank, but rather centralise controls and push the nose down and use rudder to stop the spin. Obviously this doesn't work if your speed is zero.

[@lossprevails]

That CVR was… wow. Rest In Peace to everyone onboard. Great video as always

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

That was too bad .... great video mate

[@orionwesley]

I love how the captain is screaming and cursing, then orders everyone to stay calm.

[@Mr.Pallanza]

Another amazing piece! Though I like videos with CVR's, it's also heartbreaking to watch. It is indeed a doomed flight you're describing to us, stating the facts, defining the circumstances, and giving conjecture what could have gone right if the pilots corrected this or that, but to also have the audio from the actual flight attached to it just weighs down the intensity and shows the state of mind everyone on board was. Your video on Aeroperu 603 was my first watch with a CVR, and it left me speechless after watching it as you could definitely hear how the plane went down combined with the desparation of the pilots. But this video? This video's CVR was haunting. There was absolute panic and desparation between the pilots, you could hear the deafening grumble and roar of the winds from inside the plane, you could imagine being the pilot or a passenger, feeling your weight shifting unsteadily because the plane was literally 'falling from the sky', while helplessly doing nothing about it. It left me just speechless and shocked. It's the abrupt 'cut' of the audio from these crashes just shoots up chills up my spine, like you were listening into their final moments, screaming and in panic, and then, 'click!' It is done. Amazing work as always. I'll be joining your pateron one day. I am in no means an expert in planes or aerodynamics, but these videos are laid out in a way you could understand with a calming aesthetic, and that is what I can get behind. Keep these up!

[@squillz8310]

Watching the cell phone video of the crash afterwards kinda hurts too. My mind was syncing up the final seconds of that CVR with the beginning of that clip. And once you see that initial fireball, that's when that "click" is heard. It's a very hard recording to listen to.

[@donbasscomrade200]

It is worth mentioning that the reason the captain tried to jump over the storm was that they had severe rules regarding fuel consumption. Pilots were literally getting paid less in case of higher consumption. It was happening in Russia during its boom in oil production when there was a super huge income of petrodollars. Kind of tells a lot about russian government, their management and cost of life in that country. This simple fact explains a lot of their actions lately.

[@АндрейЧвертко-ж2у]

Меньше не платили. Могли не выплатить именно премию. Но эта авиакомпания "Пулково", давно прекратила своё существование. А правительство дерьмо, не спорю)

[@TheYottaTube]

The Tupolev used in the video animation is RA-85753, which I've seen and filmed on August 18th of 2006. Although later I learned that the Actual registration of the affected Tupolev was RA-85185.

[@cincinnattydaddy4105]

Never flown, but I love your videos. Keep up the great work man.

[@adotintheshark4848]

in honor of the captain, an aircraft aerodynamic lesson: when you lose all forward motion, you're "fucked". I might add, t-tail airplanes are more prone to tail stalling because of their tail-weight bias. Once they get into the stall, it's harder to get out of it.

[@ta666ak666]

On the Tu-154 it's plain impossible. Only known case was during test flights, with anti-stall parachute.

[@adamw.8579]

It was enough to watch speed during climb. They fall into so called "coffin corner", additional fact - engines have less power on high altitude and climb must be very careful, because with lower speed engines have a much less power and at some point are unable even keep level flight. Next problem is T-tail configuration, when turbulence cone after wings affects vertical stabilizer authority - literally tail drowns down. Above some attitude angle stall is practically not recoverable.

[@vibecheck663]

That audio, and I mean everyone, not just the trainee, is absolutely heartbreaking, Jesus Christ

[@scoobydo446]

@disaster breakdown, nice to see your videos getting more professional I note you called the pilot in right seat first officer and not co pilot, great work champion, best wishes Sydney Australia

[@rien6841]

Out of all the plane voice recordings I have heard, this one gave me goosebumps.

[@MichaelD8393]

Just when I thought Western Airlines 2605's CVR was haunting. Reading & hearing Andrei Khondnevich's final words, "I don't want to die... DON'T KILL US.!" is just chilling.

[@EdenElectorate]

"WHAT FUCKING COURSE?" I couldn't hold the laugh im sorry.

[@localmenace3043]

CVRs are simultaneously nightmare fuel and horrifyingly cathartic to listen to. I can’t stop listening despite the terror it instills.

[@Al-ih1en]

Great video as always. Pls dont change anything in your videos, expect the lenght - make them longer bcs your videos are too good to be short!

[@steve3291]

5 on the flight deck and no one monitored the angle of attack and the speed bleeding off. I think the captain's fixation on the weather seemed to set the tone. It always amazes me how easy it is to get fixated on one thing and fail to notice conditions that they would normally notice and then recover from. I am not a pilot, but used to work at BA and have been on the simulators a number of times as an observer and I've paid for a couple of sessions myself. As far as I am aware, commercial pilots don't train for tail-spin stalls. The simulator stall training gets to the stall warning moment and then the pilot flying begins recovery. I can't think of actually stalling an aircraft in a simulator and then attempting recovery.

[@Awest101784]

He’s busy telling everyone to “stay calm” yet during the ENTIRE recording he’s the only one yelling and cursing….

[@jpass7784]

Thank you for this video

[@rodolfoayalajr.8589]

Sad. Rip Amen 🙏. Great video friend.

[@Meowface.]

Takeoff power! Pull up ! Climb ! Well you have no engines and no airspeed so what magical force do you expect the aircraft to use to regain altitude

[@tugatomskanimation6370]

Why do I have the feeling the captain was inebriated in some way? That's simply not the expected behavior of a seasoned and experienced professional aircraft captain.

[@АндрейЧвертко-ж2у]

Просто "альфа-самец".

[@smakfu1375]

There’s no nice way to put it: this Captain may have had a lot of flight hours, but on that day, when a lot was required of him, he was incompetent. When transitioning to a higher FL, one that is approaching the service ceiling of the aircraft, you pay careful attention to pitch, IAS and VSI, because everything from engine performance to air density impacts “real” AOA. If you are flying a rear engined, T-tail aircraft, due to their propensity for deep-stalls that impact not just elevator authority, but also engine intake, under such conditions you must be doubly careful. This Captain handled everything badly: his demeanor was unprofessional to start; he didn’t take control when he should have (starting with the climb to FL390); he countermanded the correct initial recovery instructions from the FO; once he became aware of the potential deep-stall condition, he became fixated on weird facets of the aircrafts behavior, commenting on watching “bank” which I assume, in this case, was bank angle, instead of trying to solve the problem (with one such potential, though not officially prescribed, solution being the use aileron input to rotate or “rock” the aircraft on its longitudinal axis, to “break” the wake of disrupted airflow over the elevator). Overall, CRM was a disaster on that flight deck. The correct initial action was countermanded, the captain tells his crew to “stay calm”, while he’s clearly the one panicking. The most critical failure was the captain not following piloting 101: fly the airplane. Don’t worry about mayday calls, turbulence reports, don’t critique - take control, work the problem. It’s not enough to say it was “pilot error” as that much is obvious; the captain displayed very poor airmanship and CRM, and that is the leading cause of the crash.

[@WaveMurray]

It's just a shame to hear about all these people dying, but at least you're sharing their stories in a respectful, well informed and interesting way.

[@Mullet345]

Is this Tupolev plane the same type as the one involved in the Uberlingen midair collision from 2002?

[@АндрейЧвертко-ж2у]

Да. И с их участием, много катастроф было. С самолётами ИЛ, куда меньше, почему-то.

[@minxythemerciless]

Having a T-tail is associated with a tendency to flat spin. One way out of a flat spin is to get all the passengers to run to the front of the plane. This causes the nose to dip and normal flight control is enabled.

[@ImperialDiecast]

how to you get people to run up toward the flight deck at a 50 degree attack angle?

[@zclmt03]

Thank you for your work

[@andressuarezp]

Amazing videos. Great content. Congrats !

[@darrellshoub7527]

Another brilliant episode ... said while choked up !!!!!