Pilot Ignored The Warnings (Vietnam Airlines Flight 815) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN

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This Image was taken on September 3rd, 1997. Just nearby to the airport that serves the Cambodian Capital of Phnom Penh. It depicts the aftermath of the crash of a passenger plane that was operated by Vietnam Airlines. Flight 815 crashed short of the runway here in poor weather. The circumstances surrounding the plane, its pilots and the airport itself are worth examining to uncover how this crash killed so many people.

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[@Jake-Watch]

I’m eating Vietnamese noodles while watching this what a coincidence 😄

[@philvanderlaan5942]

Have you considered doing a video on BOAC flight 777?

[@koharumi1]

Please do the Air Koryo plane crash.

[@adotintheshark4848]

Jesus..half the airport's navigation equipment was stolen, the plane was looted and both dead and survivors' pockets were picked. What a frickin hellhole.

[@po1ariser]

cambodia was basically anarchy after the khmer rouge because most of the educated and skilled labour were wiped out along with the previous government; schools became non existent and the new generation grew up barely surviving.. thats what led to becoming a hellhole

[@Tivong_]

​​@@po1ariserbut now it's a little better because the new young generation are getting better education

[@icemachine79]

Just be happy you weren't born there in the 1970s/80s.

[@richardlahan7068]

This happens in other "Third World" countries, as well. Anything that looks like it can be sold for cash disappears.

[@adotintheshark4848]

thanks to perpetual impoverishment. And there are plenty of uneducated idiots who think third world living is better.@@richardlahan7068

[@johannahunderwood4596]

Yes, it did make my blood boil - the cold-blooded mindset of local police, military and others that looted the dead and dying, along with the wreckage, is unconscionable. The captain was both arrogant and reckless, and the crew resource management non-existent. He had too high opinion of his flying skills and killed all but one in the plane and several on the ground. All of it was completely avoidable.

[@Charlestonthecool41]

I kept up on the Joplin tornado news, and my jaw dropped when I read that a firefighter and four National Guard soldiers were one and the same of the pond scum looters (that, among other things, they were tasked to limit/prevent) after that horrific event.

[@t6nkaaa]

@@Charlestonthecool41 jesus, what a hellhole...

[@beenaplumber8379]

@@Charlestonthecool41 Wow. I always think of that being something only seen in poor countries with people desperate to find food for their kids once every day or two, but I guess people are people, and there will probably always be a certain percentage of us who will do such things.

[@icemachine79]

Given the poverty in Cambodia at the time, it doesn't make my blood boil. I can't really blame them for taking an opportunity when it presented itself. The ones who recognized the data recorders were especially industrious given they probably knew the government would pay to recover them, which it did.

[@prismpyre7653]

You need to understand the historical and the political context-- there is ancient enmity between southern Vietnamese and the Khmer/Cambodian people to begin with, but then what happened during the American invasion? Cambodia (and Laos) were bombed heavily and their western-aligned governments did nothing, leading to their overthrow. In the case of Cambodia, by the Khmer-Rogue who theoretically should have been allies ideologically with the Vietnamese left and independence movement, and except they ended up having a much more nationalistic and racialist bent and their leader was a raving lunatic who thought anyone with eyeglasses was plotting against him, and we know what followed... but what westerns are NEVER taught... is who STOPPED the crimes against humanity being committed by the Cambodian communists-- it was the Vietnamese communists. They are the ones who went in and deposed that government-- and then the USA and the west CONDEMNED AND SANCTIONED Vietnam for it and said "how dare you! only WE get to do that! That genocidal government should be put BACK in power!"..... and so you see a brief period of liberalization backsliding into fascism in Cambodia today...... and a lot of Cambodians now in part blame Vietnam for their ills even more than before...

[@MarcPagan]

From a former airline pilot: Instrument flying 101: On a non-precision approach/no vertical guidance, one may not go below the MDA/minimum descent altitude, unless the runway environment is in sight. Also, a timer like a stopwatch or digital timer, is used on these NDB/Non directional beacon approaches (It's similar to an AM radio station frequency) Once one crosses a certain point/fix, start the timer and maintain MDA until the runway is in site ...if one doesn't see the runway "in time"....it's time for a go-around. Additionally, on all route maps, a MSA/minimum safe altitude is published. If one gets off course, looses coms, etc, if one stays at or above the MSA, one will never hit any structure/or mountain. I don't have the approach plate for this airport, at that time ...but there is no way the MDA was set to 200 AGL/above ground level. Even in flat Florida, most MDAs are 400+ AGL, and MSAs 2000+ This video noted that the captain descended to 200 AGL without seeing the runway. RIP

[@kevinbarry71]

Whenever I picture a stopwatch I also picture B-17's flying in formation at night

[@pascalcoole2725]

Marc, being experienced you know that in an environment where the Capt is next to God and there is a total lack of CRM there is no question if an accident is going to happen, the question is just will i be on board ?

[@MarcPagan]

@@pascalcoole2725 Hmmm...in the old days sure, commands to a first officer from a Captain were ......Gear up, flaps up, and now, shut up. CRM has been excellent for decades. (crew resource management) At the airlines, it's core part of training, and then development in the field. New pilots are paired with top Captains, all of whom stress safety, and that CRM is a core component of safety. "Egos have no place in safety", etc. Sadly, it did take a few instances when a junior pilot did not confront a captain, and it led to tragedy.

[@pascalcoole2725]

@@MarcPagan Although i'm not that old, aviation for me is twenty years ago, and at the time i have seen some stuff indeed. Thanks for your response.

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

Is it history, his story or both?

[@Magtf_hikaroo]

Just some correction from a Vietnamese: the captain’s name was Pham Van Tieu (not Phnam)

[@DisasterBreakdown]

Thanks for the info. I always appreciate corrections from native speakers :)

[@sebforce1165]

Who steals Radio/Radar and Weather equipment from an Airport? What are you even going to do with it? Sell it to the wacko trying to make a spaceship out of a fridge, ute, and a couple of bins? And how can that be a thing that just, _happens?_ Ah whatever, what's happened has happened, and at least the black boxes recovered. So irritating.

[@Phiyedough]

I was thinking the same, might just be for scrap metal but you would think it would take time to remove all the stuff mentioned. Perhaps people were bribed to turn a blind eye?

[@abebuckingham8198]

Imagine a genocidal dictator seized control of the military, abolished money, forced everyone to work on farms and killed anyone who gave them problems including all of the intellectuals and teachers. Then your neighbors invade because the dictator attacked them but they just install a puppet government and the UN sanctions them. Now have that invading country's plane crash in the middle of your farm just a few years after you finally got them to leave. So irritating.

[@txb870]

You may survive the crash but you can't escape the looting in Cambodia. So sad.

[@adotintheshark4848]

the dead people were cut up and sold on the open meat markets as "dog meat".

[@TheOriginalCFA1979]

A man tries to land a plane on some people’s homes and your takeaway is “how dare they loot the crash site?!” LoL, ok, kid. I dunno, maybe he shouldn’t have attempted to murder them with his flying deathmobile. It’s a shame the survivors weren’t helped by the first responders who showed up to do nothing as usual, but to whoever got paid for the black boxes, good for them. Look, airlines, if you don’t want to me to ransom your plane back to you, don’t put unqualified incompetent murderers who are going to try landing your plane in my living room in your cockpit, and then you’ll never have to. Simple and easy. Because once your pilot attempts to murder me by crashing into my town, yeah, I’m gonna want my payoff too, just like everyone else involved. Capitalism 101. They need it and you only have it so give me $420 million, that’s only one 747, Boeing, and I’m just doing what any CEO would, including Boeing’s. “Me first and fuck you, the consumer, to death.” Ah, what a wonderful system. Unless it’s not you benefiting, of course, then *”HOW DARE THEY PROFIT OFF OF AN AIRLINE’S INCOMPETENCE?!* … like all the other local airlines did….”

[@rilmar2137]

A terrible crash, an even more terrible aftermath. Those people were either this impoverished and desperate, or this corrupt to loot the crash site

[@EssexAggiegrad2011]

Poverty is common in Cambodia

[@adotintheshark4848]

some of the looters probably ate some of the victims

[@icemachine79]

The former, given the state of the Cambodian economy at the time. There is no evidence that the looting interfered with rescue efforts. The crash was severe, so the fact that 5 people initially survived is remarkable in itself.

[@Magtf_hikaroo]

Interesting, a crash involving our national airline (and probably my future employer lol)

[@28ebdh3udnav]

Let's hope and pray the training is topnotch and also, good luck, doesn't matter what position, good luck

[@amberrodriguez851]

Yes I agree- good luck! You got this!

[@Fly_Cruising-Altitude]

As Korean, this accident had a huge impact on Koreans. Because 21 victims were Korean and almost a month before this crash Korean Air flight 801 crashed in to Guam and more than 200 people were died....

[@IntrovertedOreo]

My condolences to you and your fellow countrymen. Tragic all the way around 😥

[@wyomingadventures]

I would like to see a video about this crash. I've seen one on Mayday. Very tragic! Think this is when Korean Airlines started being more safe. They hired a guy to help make their Airlines better. My condolences!

[@farhanatashiga3721]

The majority of those 21 were medical student on their way to donate medical equipments to Cambodia

[@amberkat8147]

​@@farhanatashiga3721 That's so tragic. I hope they RIP and that their loved ones have been able to find whatever peace they can.

[@TomGD]

I know I’m late, but as a Vietnamese person this accident really change the fleet management for Vietnam Airlines. After the accident of flight 804, the airline shifted a lot to more Airbus and Boeing jets, aka taking the delivery of A320 in late 1990 Now the airline is one of the safest safety standards with modern Airbus A350, A321, A321neo and 787 Dreamliner, it’s a massive change and I’m glad the airline improved so well from the mistakes from the past. Awesome video by the way!

[@jiankang813]

This accident was caused by the pilots and the airport equipments, not by the airplane. So changing to new airplanes has nothing to do with such accidents.

[@underwaterdick]

@@jiankang813 newer = safer standards Age of the aircraft may not have been a factor in this crash, but retiring old aircraft for new is certainly a step up in terms of safety.

[@rachmunshine9474]

@@underwaterdick yeah and they probably updated other stuff too at the airport etc. Every country is going to have their ups and downs and as it’s still somewhat a relatively new thing for lack of a better adjective. Means of conveyance. 😂 unfortunately so many of the safety protocols we have now were put in after terrible accident showed us or actually the engineers etc. And the maintenance crews and whomever, depending on what accident were talking about, that this, or that was a problem that could become a huge problem. And then it gets fixed so it becomes a non issue.

[@TUPELO_HUNNY]

​@@rachmunshine9474unless it's a Boeing problem.....then, the FAA just pushes it under the rug

[@frenchguitarguy1091]

​@@jiankang813this is true, however what is also true is that Vietnam airlines hasn't had a fatal accident since. So clearly the airplanes aren't the only thing that changed.

[@averycursedboi273]

Fun fact: Vietnam Airlines are now very safe, with very little accidents on its book since 2010

[@DisasterBreakdown]

It is yes! Very impressive turnaround from Vietnam Airlines!

[@cockatoo010]

Modern planes and good training Soviet planes are not bad, but they are work intensive

[@shitbird9429]

Ok Vietnam Airlines, nice try

[@geoffedmonds6507]

And I still won't fly on it.

[@averycursedboi273]

@Bảo Châu Yeah, but it was more like a threat made by a guy on crack or something than a actual shoot down/terrorist attack

[@kringe700]

A running theme of a plane crash in South East Asia that involves the locals valued scrap metal over people's lives is also occured with a previous video covering Lada Air crash in Thailand (that were not mentioned in your video).

[@DevilSurvivor69]

So a running theme is two crashes in your mind? I think you need to reevaluate that line of thinking as there probably hundreds of thousands of crashes in this area of the world 🌎.

[@princeofcupspoc9073]

Wasn't there one in Central America also?

[@SMGJohn]

@@DevilSurvivor69 Maybe you need to stop doing drugs, hundreds of thousands of crashes? What in the holy fuck planet are you living on???

[@Faded-Tales-PreviouslyHarley]

It isn't a running theme. What IS a running theme is that when people are in wartorn countries with little to no food, they do anything they can to survive. And that part of Asia was screwed from the war, and more. Operation Babylift: The plane crashed in a rice paddy right where North Vietnamese had been fighting the night before, right in Saigon. 100 South Vietnamese had to protect the survivors but no one could protect the site at night once the survivors were gone. The US had to buy back as much as it could before finding out the issue was a design issue. This crash: Cambodia led a genocide in the 70s until there was a war with Vietnam. After that, Vietnam became their defacto ruler until the SAME year as this crash when a coup was held and governments changed. I can't imagine how desperate these people were. If there was looting by cops as people died, that's beyond wrong. But in that case I'd just say they should've made a perimeter with guns, saved as many as they could, then looted. I doubt government jobs ran by the country you lost to (who also was in shambles due to the amount of bombs we left everywhere among manyyyy other things) paid much. These people were starving. Edit: Lauda 004 apparently dealt with people looting jewelry and electronics. It doesn't appear like it was many airplane wreckage parts, especially as Niki Lauda flew to Thailand to see for himself what happened.

[@atikulhussain7614]

@@DevilSurvivor69 hundreds of thousands plane crashes..Surely not

[@GicaForta]

Holy crap, police and firemen arrived at the scene and the first thing to do was: loot everything! This sounds almost unreal

[@IvorGrumble]

I hope that little boy was looked after properly and his life so far has been good.

[@ExperimentIV]

ahh chloe, love that you’re going to test the waters with branching out! i would love for you to cover the M/S Estonia incident, which is one of the most horrifying things i happen to know about

[@DisasterBreakdown]

I'll look into it

[@abidmohammad9093]

Yes he should start doing some maritime disasters too

[@EvanBear]

Chloe? Disaster breakdown is female?

[@ExperimentIV]

@@EvanBear yeah she is

[@seriouscat2231]

It was an insurance fraud. They swapped ships.

[@kamuginkhan]

Attempting a visual approach below the required minimums, that captain was a daredevil or a suicide.

[@pauldavis9387]

Arrogance that got others killed

[@mariebcfhs9491]

As a Vietnamese, this accident does boil my blood. Especially the ignorance of the captain, he has been in the Air Force before and knew better, but still brought the plane down due to rookie errors.

[@rapman5363]

Imagine surviving the initial crash and seeing rescue workers arriving at the scene, then watching in horror as they rescue workers go about stealing wallets and taking luggage and valuables. Help...help...screw that hand over your watch.🤷‍♂️

[@icemachine79]

Almost everyone was dead except for the 5 who were rescued. It's not surprising when you look at the photos of the crash site. Cambodia was very poor at the time, so I can't really blame them for taking an opportunity to feed themselves and their families when they saw it.

[@criticalfxck13]

As a 3rd worlder, all the looting in this video is uhh... such a big 'wait this doesnt happen in other places?' moment ... but at the same time also such a 'ofcourse that happened' moment

[@wyomingadventures]

Yes it's happened in our incidents

[@PatriotCody]

It happened even recently in Russia and Russia is a first world country or at least professes to be.

[@thejournalwriter811]

Thank you for making a video of our national carrier!! Love from Vietnam! Edit: We haven't had an accident since the 2000s

[@RedOctober_]

Plane: *Crashes* Police: *Procceds to Loot n' Rev*

[@spinalcrackerbox]

As someone that has lived in Thailand and now lives in Cambodia, I can tell you that the rainy season can last into November in this region. Of course, rain can occur pretty much in any month here, so pilots need to be prepared for bad weather year round.

[@mtmadigan82]

Well we're not to sure how many survived the crash. Hows that? Because instead of helping the injured, these aholes started looting passengers. Then to top it off looting the plane. So there were surely some that were still alive and expectant. But these guys were to busy pulling copper wire out of the plane outstanding.

[@foxdavani4091]

Between the evil captain and the people steel Ing from literally the dead, humanity can sometimes be just horrible.

[@kevinbarry71]

I suppose if people are going to loot an operating airport; it's no big deal to loot a crash site

[@MarkusAudio]

Looting at an airport and after an aircrash?? No comments.

[@BengalsBillsFan2015]

Gday mate thank for making these informative and educational videos:)

[@DisasterBreakdown]

No problem 👍

[@paulabrown6840]

Captains EGO caused all these lost lives. 😡

[@rrknl5187]

Of all the instrument approaches, I like the NDB best. It makes you think, and if you can visualize the plane and runway from above, they’re actually pretty easy.

[@erhardspies8779]

I have been to Cambodia twice, in 2005 and in 2012. We all know about the unlucky recent history of that country, and during my first visit the lack of infrastructure was still evident. So I am not surprised about the unsufficient equipment of Phnom Penh Airport and the looting of the crashsite. About Vietnam Airlines, I know when they wanted to modernize their fleet in the 1990s, they wanted to purchase Boeings, but the administration of then US-president George Bush sen. forbade Boeing to deliver planes to the Vietnamese.👎So they purchased airbuses. Shortly after Bill Clinton ended that stupid embargo.

[@evolancer211]

Wow, Cambodian people were looting before offering help, just wow

[@jstevinik3261]

@Danny Lam Columbians at a crash site: hold our beers.

[@an.opossum]

Could the captain's name be PHAM Van Tieu? There's no such surname as Phnam in Vietnamese.

[@wyomingadventures]

He made a mistake. And said he appreciated someone telling him that. Comment above

[@MrEsMysteriesMagicks]

Does anyone know why there were three black boxes? What was the function of the third one?

[@farhanatashiga3721]

Quick access recorder, as I understand it, it is there so that some specific datas can be extracted from the plane for certain scenarios without having to cut through the whole tail for the two main boxes.

[@MrEsMysteriesMagicks]

@@farhanatashiga3721 Thank you!

[@G.A.C_Preserve]

Just incase someone loots the other two

[@kiki1573]

The looting did it for me. Taking advantage of an opportunity to loot the possessions of the dead. Very tacky. Sigh.

[@Dad_Brad]

As a Vietnamese interpreter I would have liked to hear the cockpit audio of the black box.

[@wyomingadventures]

You do realize English is the language of all airlines. Yeah the pilots might talk to each other in their native language but not with Air control.

[@itsharibonph]

@@wyomingadventures Yeah English is the Lingua Franca of Air; and Sea

[@itsharibonph]

It would be probably in English wouldn't waste your breath on it.

[@farhanatashiga3721]

I won't be so sure as you all above me, when the route and airline is regional it's entirely possible for the language of communication to not be English, just look at aeroperu 603, the communication of that flight both in the cockpit and with ATC was entirely in Spanish.

[@Dad_Brad]

@@farhanatashiga3721 yep. VN Airlines 815 in this case, all three pilots were VN’ese. They would not have spoken a word of English. If Anything, they would have been occasionally using the Russian names of the various cockpit/aeronautical systems terms, since there might not be a word in VN’ese . It would be interesting to hear how they spoke and handled the flight in the last 15 minutes. Often times on this channel we get to hear cockpit voice recordings. Apparently not available for this crash. Note to those with poor reading comprehension (Wyoming Adventures)- yes we are all aware that when no other common language is shared between the two parties then E is the default. Cockpit to ATC obviously is in E both ways and obviously not what I, a Vietnamese interpreter said I was interested in listening to.

[@soksereyvatana5036]

Police and Civilian loot....classic khmer people.

[@ImperialDiecast]

happened in thailand too, involving an austrian lauda air boeing 767

[@hansu2809]

True. It was in Cambodia, so all the people were Khmer.

[@XLeon_S_KennedyX]

May the looters rot in hell!

[@akarig4875]

I have never heard of this type of accident and that is what makes it even more intriguing!! rip the souls on bored 💔 Great video as always!❤️

[@Dovietail]

I think you missed an important aspect by NOT providing context of the political situation in Cambodia at this time. It is the only thing that makes the looting of an airport and the behavior on the ground fathomable.

[@JTA1961]

G00k point

[@RonPiggott]

4:32 It is amazing how the GPS system has been used creatively in aviation with airports of low revenue creating virtual glide slopes for landing.

[@casparcoaster1936]

As I got out of college in '84, got into importing furniture from e. Asia. Flew to Narita, Seoul, Bangkok, Taipai and HK often, HCM once in a while, even PP. It was HK that scared the heck out of me. And SFO. But note many were starving in PP in the nineties.

[@floxy20]

Of course, looting! Dang.

[@doubleucat]

Excited for the rail disaster video! Really appreciate the effort you put into these videos! Keep up the great work!

[@ANTONSV5]

Have you checked out the KZbin channel , Daniel Krol ( lists deadliest air crash per model ) , your work is great I like learning about these obscure crashes

[@wyomingadventures]

Thank you!

[@jekanyika]

I don't want to be too judgmental but looting seemed to be rife in Phnom Penh. What is any one going to do with a stolen VOR beacon?

[@beautifulblackbeauty8641]

I enjoyed the video transcript that ran alongside a video of yours I watched recently. I have ADD & ADHD. The combo of viewing and reading the real-time transcript is a true BLESSING to me!

[@rttrttyan]

11,000 flight hours and doesn’t know to keep a safe altitude until the runway is in sight‽

[@dougschwieder3627]

Just to compare looting, Texans looted the Columbia crash site in 2003, maybe Louisianans too. The French looted Charles Lindbergh's plan after his famous solo across the Atlantic. They had to guard it after that. They looted the plane that the son in law planted a bomb on that was brought down with his mom on it in Longmont Colorado in 1956 or so.

[@TheOriginalCFA1979]

“Captain, we can’t see the runway, should we go around?” “Nah, I’d rather murder innocent people.”

[@PatriotCody]

Why would someone steal the flight recorders? Thats just so sick and cold.

[@FrostySumo]

Are there personal mini fans in the cockpit of this plane? Those black fan looking things above each seat. What a weird cockpit in general.

[@Hugh1966]

It’s Russian , there’s your answer .

[@Boyso5407]

What kind of a scumbag loots an airplane crash. There are people fighting for their lives and you have these selfish, disgusting people taking things from the plane. Doesn’t get much worse than that

[@txb870]

The type of "scumbags" that have lost their humanity due to prolonged starvation. Hunger makes you do things... Of course we will never fully understand because here we are with our bellies filled shooting off what we please on the world wide web. Pity.

[@somedudethatripsplanetinha4221]

The people who are given not enough resources to live normally eh?

[@Charlestonthecool41]

@@txb870 I was born two (ish) weeks after the fall of Saigon, and with the help of the internet, I've been able to do a deep dive on something barely touched on in my schooling, and that which none of my adult family (particularly the vets) were ever keen to discuss. The hell that Southeast Asia and its people endured (it was all horrific, but especially Cambodians...holy sh*t) was one of the most difficult things I've ever learned about in my 47 years on this planet.

[@txb870]

@@Charlestonthecool41 War is hell. My family lived through the fall of Saigon and told me horrific stories of what the commies did to our family and other South Vietnamese.

[@Charlestonthecool41]

@@txb870 I imagine that the term 'traumatic' doesn't even begin to describe what they went through. It's depressing as hell that in the nearly five decades since (not to mention the entirety of everything that came before) we still haven't worked out how to share this rock of ours, given that there's ZERO choice in the matter. Nor will there be for the foreseeable future. I hope you and everyone in your family are happy and thriving.

[@snix7613]

The looting part was kind of sad but that's just one of the sad facts of this world. In the same timeline; - random peeps in random country threw away their baby just because she's a girl - random woman think it's a good idea to hit the bus driver in the head with her mobile phone because she missed her stop - random family think it's a good idea to get out of the car in a drive-through safari park, especially in the zone with deadly carnivores. - random peeps think it's a good idea to loot gasoline from crashed fuel tanker - rape victims will get burned to death if she goes to police in some random country etc etc. You just can't underestimate the human being behavior.

[@alvin8737]

I Love your content!

[@DisasterBreakdown]

Thanks for watching!

[@wyomingadventures]

I'm not going to lie yeah I'm pissed when people loot a crash. They just don't care about others. Looking forward to the rail crash. That will be awesome! Many of them. Hoping people will like them as well.

[@koharumi1]

0:53 air koryo is a such a unique airline. They have only had one plane crash (while south Korea Korean air has had so many many crashes etc), and fly all these museum type aircraft. A aviation fan would love them!

[@FN_FAL_4_ever]

Speaking of pilots ignoring warnings, I hope you can do a video regarding Eastern Airlines flight 66, which crashed due to wind shear on 24 June, 1975. Despite several warnings and close calls by other pilots landing at JFK, the pilot of Eastern flight 66 ignored those warnings and attempted to land anyway, resulting in the crash that killed 113 out of 124 people.

[@kevanhubbard9673]

Considering the state of the airport I'm surprised that any airline would willingly fly into it.

[@moonprincess500]

Looting so much! During a burning crash????🤯

[@juliustran1628]

3:00 There's really a misspelling here, captain name is Pham Van Tieu

[@wyomingadventures]

Yeah he's heard that a couple hundred times now.

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

@@wyomingadventures she but it would be nice if a comment was pinned making small corrections

[@VHKDK]

I used to see these planes take off from Bangkok Don Meuang back in the early 1990s and was always fascinated by their rate of climb compared to western jets. Maybe I should say lack of rate of climb! A very interesting series of videos, keep them coming.

[@soksereyvatana5036]

Didn't know this happen in my country ( maybe because I was born in 2000 )

[@AlonAltman]

Pilot video! I see what you did there! Ha ha!

[@Titot182]

Clapham junction? or Harrow Wealdstone?

[@tomperkins5657]

Excellent!! Very informative and articulate.

[@prismpyre7653]

You would have benefited here from grappling with the political context-- there is ancient enmity between southern Vietnamese and the Khmer/Cambodian people to begin with, but then what happened during the American invasion? Cambodia (and Laos) were bombed heavily and their western-aligned governments did nothing, leading to their overthrow. In the case of Cambodia, by the Khmer-Rogue who theoretically should have been allies ideologically with the Vietnamese left and independence movement, and except they ended up having a much more nationalistic and racialist bent and their leader was a raving lunatic who thought anyone with eyeglasses was plotting against him, and we know what followed... but what westerns are NEVER taught... is who STOPPED the crimes against humanity being committed by the Cambodian communists-- it was the Vietnamese communists. They are the ones who went in and deposed that government-- and then the USA and the west CONDEMNED AND SANCTIONED Vietnam for it and said "how dare you! only WE get to do that! That genocidal government should be put BACK in power!"..... and so you see a brief period of liberalization backsliding into fascism in Cambodia today...... and a lot of Cambodians now in part blame Vietnam for their ills even more than before...

[@232K7]

With the NDB located 3.1 miles away, descending in fog, all the captain could know for certain was that he was within 3.1 miles of the runway, at 100ft & zero visibility. That is criminally idiotic. Wish the FO could override the captain to go around when the captain is doing something blatantly dangerous

[@rachmunshine9474]

I don’t understand how anyone survived…. but I guess they were thrown from it before it exploded? Meanwhile as shocking as the looting etc. Was especially, considering it was officers of the law and military… the really shocking part is this was done, even though there were survivors to be tended to?!? Thank God they were some humane people there!

[@zamardii12]

Do the looters not have a conscious? How can you step by and over bodies to loot stuff you would have no use for in the case of the flight recorder and who knows what else?

[@abebuckingham8198]

Imagine a genocidal dictator abolished money, private property of any kind, literally forces everyone to wear the same clothes, killed all the intellectuals including a lot of people in healthcare then sent everyone to work on farms, or to death camps. Then he attacks your neighbor who retaliate, and forcibly occupy your country. After you finally oust their puppet government and one if their planes crashes into your farm. Stuff like that can change your perspective as to what is and isn't reasonable.

[@springmadetheworld369]

I knew a Vietnam Airlines A320 pilot around 2005-2010 (American fellow, one of their foreign hires) who told me that within the airline, it was known the accident flight was also dealing with a rapidly dwindling fuel supply. The story goes that the accident flight was put into a holding pattern for quite some time before attempting to land, during which time its fuel was nearly depleted. The Soviet-era pilots at Vietnam Airlines say that it was standard practice in those days to only give pilots a little bit of reserve fuel for fear that if they had a lot of reserves, they might defect to a non-communist country in the region like Thailand or the Philippines. While I don't approve of the captain trying to land with no runway in sight, I suspect his determination to get the plane on the ground was at least partly due to his fuel situation.

[@rachmunshine9474]

OMG, why in the heck would anybody take the flight recorders? 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Lex5576]

Its a good thing Vietnam Airlines got rid of all those old Soviet aircraft types for more reliable (safer) Airbuses and Boeings. As for what happened after the crash, you have to consider the political and economic conditions of Cambodia during those times. It was dog eat dog just to scrape up a means to survive. I don't approve of the looting, but Cambodia was a rough place.

[@MovieMakingMan]

Your great videos make me look forward to the next, latest disasters. Thanks!

[@maltheartistme]

10:11 i looked at the exact image, i expected gore, huge amounts of gore, i was wrong. it was still horrible, lifeless bodies just sitting there.

[@jayrandolph9328]

A FOURTEEN METER PALM TREE????? Thats a FOURTY SIX FOOT palm tree. 🌴

[@user-ol7yc2lz9n]

captain's ego caused the crash. just like a doctor insisting they are correct even in misdiagnosis, the captain refused to listen to his junior co-pilot and flight engineers to abort landing until they get clear visual of runway for safer landing. just because you have a higher ranking work position doesn't mean you're always correct

[@catn_p]

Hi! Great video! Can you cover the recent China 737 plane crash? China Eastern Flight 5735? Thanks!

[@wyomingadventures]

Sure added to the list. There's only a couple hundred now. I'm joking. Someone has done one on it. But I can't remember the channel name. Type it in and you will find it.

[@abebuckingham8198]

Until the investigation report is complete there isn't anything to cover. That typically takes a few years.

[@fredrit323]

What kind of animals can go looting among the dead and dying and even steal the flight recorders with the hope of getting some financial rewards ? Even the police were involved apparently...

[@N00N01]

I dont wanna be _THAT_ guy , but typical having essential things be looted in southeast asia/ south asian peninsula

[@bigsherk42069]

Space flight disasters would be great! I have some good simulators to recommend, and good disasters too!

[@SP-sy5nq]

I love how I'm getting travel insurance ads before this video

[@kuriyamatidusflossy]

how low you can get to loot after a horrible plane crash while people screaming for help in a burning wreckage

[@Kurosaka]

I love these case studies they help my national geographic crash investigation addiction with half the drama🤣🤣

[@thuycaokhac9282]

i am from viet nam but i don'ty know about vietnam airline 815 thank for the knowledge

[@8bitorgy]

Was McNamara exaggerating when he said the locals don't value life as much as westerners?

[@Handlename31]

6k hours and 4k hours on the aircraft is experienced.

[@proplanecrazytutorials3745]

my father friend was the guy who found the only survivor on that crash

[@mack.attack]

If it's a train video, isn't it an engineer video, not a pilot video? 😁

[@uzmaahmed.catmoon]

I c wot u did there, nice 1.

[@Andrew-bs1mi]

11:34 it was interesting all right another deal of pilots stupidity maybe the guy had to take a leak

[@senabecool7232]

Do more Southeast asian accidents like GA200 or MH653

[@DisasterBreakdown]

I've got a couple on my to do list

[@senabecool7232]

@@DisasterBreakdown cool, but will you make a non plane accident about MV dona pz

[@wyomingadventures]

@@senabecool7232 not asking for much huh😄

[@randylahey1232]

My blood did not boil

[@blessedmwsmom]

How low could you stoop, as to steal at the scene of a horrific plane crash??🤦🏼‍♀️

[@abebuckingham8198]

Imagine the government abolished money and forced everyone to work on farms and if you didn't do as they said they either executed you on the spot or sent you a death camp. Now that dictator who ruined everything attacks your neighbor so they invade and install a puppet government under their control. Now, after decades of oppression by this foreign power, just a few years after you finally force them out, one of their planes crashes into your farm. That's just a level of desperation I hope neither of us ever have to experience.

[@Charlestonthecool41]

The folks responsible had been decidedly non-blessed in every conceivable way for two (plus) decades up to and including the time of this crash. Ways that are every bit as gut-wrenching and dehumanizing, which came full circle with this event. Read up on it. No doubt, the looting was horrific, but perhaps a bit of context might help with some understanding (not condoning) of the situation and mindset of those responsible.

[@MothaLuva]

10:24 I wonder if the censoring is of any help.

[@rickgesell9468]

VORs are not being phased out. They are reducing the number due to the availability of SATNAV/GNSS/GPS guidance. But GNSS signals are very weak by comparison to ground-based NAVAIDS so some VOR/DME capability will remain indefinably to assure navigation i the event of GMSS outages, interference, jamming, etc. NDB's are in fact being phased out in most places.

[@the-trustees]

I hope that families sued the airport, and the pilot's ghost (Vietnam Airlines), into oblivion. And I am NOT litigious.

[@stephanieparker1250]

I hate thieves. Why would you steal equipment that is to save lives? Why would you loot and not help?! Disgusting! 😡😡😡

[@clivethereddevil3178]

Oceanic Flight 815 was the name of the flight that crashed in the TV series Lost.

[@tarnejehovahson2148]

Of course it was a soviet built aircraft

[@martingannon132]

What a tragic story. That needed to have his head examined. Very wrechless flying and having the lives of all those passengers in his hands meant nothing to him. Very scary stuff!!!

[@Dovietail]

Precarity=not a word. PRECARIOUSNESS=a word.

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

it is a word.