A Timeline of the 1990s Heavyweight Boxing Division (Boxing Documentary)

[@boxingpedia]

Subscribe and hit the bell for notifications if you enjoyed (or even if you didn't). It's FREE!!! 👀 Become a Member: kzbin.info/door/1ltom5RMOKcDSXCC2DFA5Qjoin CASHAPP: cash.app/$TCJackson97 VENMO: venmo.com/u/TheCharlesJackson 90s Furious Heavyweights by @WTBOXING kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX2pdXaloLp7oJI The remaster saga is complete, thank you. 0:00 -Intro 0:15 - Background 3:18 - 1990 34:48 - 1991 1:07:09 - 1992 1:29:25 - 1993 1:52:21 - 1994 2:10:42 - 1995 2:34:12 - 1996 3:08:33 - 1997 3:32:46 - 1998 3:42:00 - 1999 3:59:54 - Loose Ends, Rankings, Conclusion kzbin.info/aero/PLI88biwgEUAnZMIBC1yKEAuPoCJUrFVx_&si=QhP3W-_EhRGv7S7d

[@shrekeatscupcakes3918]

Dude this channel is so underrated

[@boxingpedia]

Welcome home, much more to come and I appreciate you 🙏🏾

[@dutchpackdior2178]

3rd watch , this is simply amazing , 70s and 90s HW Boxing are the two best eras HANDS DOWN .

[@spreadeagle2561]

Good Sir,I can only echo the well-deserved compliments for your splendid work made by many of your viewers.

[@madebymorton]

These long form videos are great man! I’m not a big boxing fan but I find the history of these fighters to be so fascinating. Can’t wait for your next long form retrospective

[@yaelhughes409]

The 1970s is known as the most colourful decade, yet the 80s and 90s timelines are double the time as the golden age at 4hrs

[@boxingpedia]

Lot more politics and bizarre ish that dragged em along. 70s was straight to the point action with everyone fighting one another!

[@yaelhughes409]

@@boxingpedia true but the 90s added more of a story with Riddick’s splintering of the titles and the reunification in ‘99. Plus nearly everyone fought each other. It’s a hard pick for me with the golden and silver decades but… I suppose the 70s had ali Frazier and foreman which kinda beats Lewis Holyfield and Bowe. Especially as bowe never fought Lewis. Looking forward to the what if on the story. Btw, what’s next, the 60s timeline or the what if on the bowe-Lewis rivalry?

[@boxingpedia]

@yaelhughes409 there won't be another timelone for a bit, too much draining work. What Ifs, Best Career Year, shorts are the plan.

[@سَاقِيالحُبِوالأغَانِيْ]

really ? okay take this: foreman vs shavers fraizer vs norton shavers vs fraizer holmes vs fraizer homes vs foreman etc etc etc @@boxingpedia

[@lloydielloyd915]

​@@boxingpedia What if Ike Ibeabuchi never lost his marbles? Or George never retired after the Young defeat

[@ylgotbars4531]

This has been a captivating series. Started watching the 70’s timeline a week ago and now I’m here! And don’t tell me you’re bringing some wrestling content too 🥹🔥 love your format and I’m here for anything you do big homie! 🎉

[@boxingpedia]

60s is up next! I definitely wanna tackle wrestling, particularly the 80s, 90s, and 2000s when it ruled the world. Reason I'll always have love for it 🙏🏾 welcome home.

[@ScreamPhynex]

HERE IT IS!! FINALLY!! I'm so glad that you finally got this out. It's about time!! YOU KILLED THIS MFER!!! OKAY?!!!

[@boxingpedia]

It's over, it's all over 💚

[@ScreamPhynex]

@@boxingpedia FINALLY 💜💜

[@chizimwodi3099]

U did an amazing job on these the depth and dedication is unmatched I can’t wait for the 2000s and 2010s. It’s like going in Time Machine watching your vids.

[@boxingpedia]

Thank you so much and welcome home. The 60s will be the next one made down the line. I'm excited for the 2000s too b/c of how wildly out of sort it was in comparison to the other decades. Thanks again for your time and kindness.

[@suesio6432]

These videos are brilliant, thankyou so much. Ive watched the 1970's & 1980's timeline up to now. In the process of watching this one. Tyson V Tyrell Biggs 16/10/1987 was the fight that sent me into labour with my son 😅 Thankyou so much for your hard work. Brilliant 👏

[@boxingpedia]

Your son owes Tyson beating Biggs into the mat his life! This is some rich history; God bless you ma'am and I pray you and your son are thriving now 💚 and thank you so much for your kindness!

[@WTBOXING]

Appreciate the shoutout brother. Awesome content as always!

[@boxingpedia]

🙏🏾

[@vito9674]

👏👏👏👏👏👏These GREAT Docs are a God send for someone like me that can't sleep and who loves " The Sweet Science " and its Rich history ! Thank u for all ur hard work ! ❤

[@boxingpedia]

Anytime! I love sleeping to my fav docs as well. Welcome home 🙏🏾

[@holywarrior96]

Let’s go I’ve been waiting on this new one. Love that you re-recorded this one. The 90’s boxing scene is my favorite decade. You gave The Real Deal his credit, which he doesn’t get much of these days with the new crop of Tyson casuals.

[@boxingpedia]

It had to be done, the original 90s video was a burden I had to rectify. And of course! Evander is one of my favorite fighters. Sadly he isn't the only one who's been caught up in the ridiculous Tyson hype train here in KZbin. Disgusts me actually. Thanks for sticking around, I'll see you next time champ.

[@simonjames1604]

@@boxingpedia your stuff is great ! although i dont mind heavyweights now, interesting things are going on!

[@samantharay6098]

the real reason holyfield doesnt get respect are the losses to bowe and mercer and lewis, beating a washed up tyson doesnt help him that much. who did he actually beat at heavyweight? the doping doesnt help either i say all of this as someone who likes holyfield and rates him highly, but its also easy to see why he isnt respected and its not just tyson hype. holyfield had great style great chin great heart but was not a great hw.

[@simonjames1604]

@@samantharay6098 he beat bowe, he beat foreman. he kicked the crap out of tyson twice. i dont know who doesnt respect him but reading your post its like you didnt even follow him.

[@holywarrior96]

@@samantharay6098 he didn’t lose to Mercer lol, who told you that?. Anyways, thanks for letting everybody know you have no idea what you’re talking about.

[@tasadiqhussain6008]

just discovered this gem. Brilliant work.

[@777AndrewR]

Awesome video and channel! Still can't believe Bowe never fought Tyson or Lewis unbelievable!

[@boxingpedia]

The Lewis one in particular may be the biggest missing chapter in heavyweight history.

[@Pachedzhiev94]

Amazing work on all of your videos! As a person who trains boxing and enjoying the sport, your documentaries are amazing. Are you planning to do similar videos on other devisions and what about 00s heavyweights ?

[@boxingpedia]

Absolutely, the 60s will be the next timeline made (it won the polls). From there most likely the 2000s then we'll sort out the 50s, 2010s, and 2020s. More weight divisions by vote as well.

[@Pachedzhiev94]

Awesome! Can’t wait for it … keep it up !

[@CampsitePyro]

43:57 that’s our boy Steve Smoger, not Randy Newman. Newman was that nimrod from the Tyson-Carl Williams fight😎

[@dvisiontv6897]

Thank you for this wonderful masterpiece 👏🏾

[@therealDJG]

Love these videos and I had hints you were a wrestling fan but this confirmed it for me. Can’t wait to see those timelines.

[@boxingpedia]

You got good perception 👀 I've always dropped some things here and there and I've always wanted to make wrestling docs too. This'll be the spot when it all drops: youtube.com/@thewrestlingpedia

[@horneteagle2408]

Dang good job on this series! I love it. Looking forward to the 00s, and 20teens. I hope you dont spew the party line bs that it was a "weak era", or that the great Klitschkos were "boring" , and all that nonsense the media spewed throughout their careers.

[@Tavares-z1k]

RIP unification 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@morten3465]

How many views for a video this good? Had to leave a comment for the algorithm, because that won't do.

[@boxingpedia]

I appreciate you 🙏🏾

[@wtcher2060]

Bruh I been binge watching for two days 😩😂 Excellent work 💯

[@boxingpedia]

Welcome home 😎

[@waitz27]

In its entirety, a beautiful thing! Great work & many congratulations sir.

[@robertlawson9716]

Will you be doing this for other weight classes like middle or welter?

[@boxingpedia]

Down the line and by request.

[@fozzmanmick]

Brilliant work, thank you. 👏

[@Dardev123]

They finally found who did it 2:52:56

[@lakersfan1988ee]

This is so good great work

[@aleksthegreat4130]

1970s probably the strongest era in the history of the HW category,considering the fact that 40+,slowed and overweighted Larry Holmes and George Forman were easily among the top-10 fighters even in the 1990s.

[@BryonyDarrow]

Love your channel, big fan of your timelines great work! I have a question....u mention how Ruddock was thought to be the favorite if he faced either holyfield or Bowe after Lewis fight in 92. Since Lewis decimated Ruddock, would you say he would therefore likely have beaten either Bowe or Holyfield at that point?

[@boxingpedia]

@BryonyDarrow nah not in my mind b/c rock-paper-scissors doesn't tend to work in boxing. To the public at the time though, maybe so. Imo, Lewis loses to either Holyfield or Bowe in the early 90s. He needed to be the finely tuned master he became under Manny Steward. Just my opinion. Thanks for the love, glad you enjoy and I'm glad to have you.

[@llestat4982]

Dig these videos...but I really dig your music!

[@JBowman-ps2ri]

Dude, U do some good videos! U put alot into making them, thank U! U should have Many more likes on these videos !! Best of luck to you, keep up the good work!

[@boxingpedia]

Thank you 🙏🏾

[@BooBearNZ]

Love you videos! I know it's no where near as exciting, but do you have a timeline of the 2000s?

[@boxingpedia]

It's coming. The next timeline will be the 60s and I'll get to the 2000s after that 😎

[@slidecounter5813]

The best Heavyweight Boxing Era by far imo 🥊 90's

[@anthonyriordan2391]

I was like 6-7 years old when that whole Tyson vs Hollyfield debacle took place. I vividly remember everyone talking about it and it being the butt of jokes on every TV show and late night show. I don't remember much from the mid 90's, but I remember Mike Tyson.

[@maikeruxo9569]

Awesome video. Do 2000s next

[@masterred8958]

Let me rewatch this masterpiece.

[@Vandalio_Saez]

The 90's had so many killers

[@chocolatetownforever7537]

Still say Riddick Bowe was the best of this bunch. He could brawl or box, had a great jab, the total package as a heavyweight. Bowe had an awesome career, I just think there could have been more.

[@Ken_Frazer-619]

Dude Ali and Foreman 1 In 1974 was a meeting between Olympic gold medalists

[@boxingpedia]

I should've clarified in the video: *heavyweight* gold medalists (Super and Regular crossover withstanding).

[@Ken_Frazer-619]

​@@boxingpedia Also Page died in 2009 not 2001

[@IAMHIPHOP974]

I know this is off topic but can you make a video on the Mexico vs Puerto Rico rivalry?

[@vince11harris]

Man it’s crazy how People don’t have Lennox Lewis as an ATG heavyweight

[@boxingpedia]

Bruh...the disrespect is crazy in this comment section alone.

[@violetschannel6109]

Great work....

[@staraptorflock3661]

A strange but Objective list of the top 50 90s boxers 1. Holyfield 2. Lewis 3. Bowe 4. Moore 5. Foreman 6. Buster Douglas 7. Herbie Hide 8. Tyson 9. Vitali Klitchko 10. Akinwande 11. Mcall 12. Morrison 13. Mercer 14. Seldon 15. Briggs 16. Bruno 17. Bennet 18. Botha 19. Daimiami 20. Lou Saveresse 21. Orilin Norris 22. Axle Schulz 23. Tony Tucker 24. Cohen 25. Ross Puritty 26. Larry Holmes = 27. Jesse Feurguson 28. Marion Wilson 29. Tony Tubbs 30. Daroll Wilson 31. Michael Grant 32. David Izon 33. John Ruiz 34. 44 Cohen Pact 11 45. Ross Puritty pact 45 Chris Byrd 46Hasim Rahman 47 Corrie Sanders 48 Brian Nelsion 49 Larry Donald 50 Kirk Johnson

[@gordonmorris6359]

Mercer's only flaw was his refusal to move defensively, he always stood still absorbing blows unnecessarily. He could've been undisputed champ easily.

[@Ihavenoidea12342]

We need that what if Mike Tyson won against Douglas cause the fights that would have happened is crazy😭😭😭

[@boxingpedia]

It's coming down the line 👀

[@stephenh9483]

i fucking love this

[@beast6423]

Lennox Lewis man that man is my greatest after Muhammad Ali had he been born earlier he wld have been the greatest of all time but the Shadow of Ali linkers the greatness can't be ignored

[@boxingpedia]

@@beast6423 he's in my holy trinity of heavyweights with Ali and Holmes. Great fighter.

[@dukestandard4743]

How even considers Rocky 5, an actual Rocky movie?

[@batman-telephoneman5479]

You know what's crazy as hell? Buster Douglas, if he liked training, could have been one of the most exciting fighters of the 90s. The Buster Douglas that faced Tyson in Japan would have beat anyone that night.

[@poindextertunes]

Naw, He almost didn’t beat Tyson, who didn’t train like usual and had been up for days on cocaine

[@wobblertv8083]

Tyson v Douglas....Night of the long count ...

[@ZBOXINGTALK]

Golota was a mad man.

[@staraptorflock3661]

Objective List of the Double 00 2000s 1. Wlad Klitchko 2. Lennox Lewis 3. Chris Byrd 4. Nikolai Valuev 5. John Ruiz 6. Vitty Klitchko 7. Hasim Rahman 8. Lamon Brewster 9. Ruslan Chagaev 10. Oleg Maskev 11. Sultan Ibragamov 12. Corrie Sanders 13. David Haye 14. Evander Holyfeild 15. Roy Jones Jr 16. Serhei Liakovich 17. Shannon Briggs 18. Alexander Polviekin 19. Shaun George 20. Andrew Golata 21. James Toney 22. David Tua 23. Clifford Entientee 24. Charles Shufford 25. Gbenga Oloukun 26. Kirk Johnson 27. Corey Sanders 28. Lance Whitaker 29. Nagy Aquilera 30. Ray Austin 31. Osborn Machimana 32. Larry Donald 33. Maurice Harris 34. Jameel Mcline 35. Sedreck Fields 36. Chris Henry 37. Tomsz Adamek 38. Mike Tyson 39. Fres Oquendo 40. Calvin Brock 41. Gilbert Martinez 42. Francois Botha 43. Robert Davis 44. Lawrence Clay Bey 45. Malik Scott 46. Jason Estrada 47. Kelvin Davis 48. Manuel Charr 49. Kubrat Pulev 50. Rene Dettweiler

[@thebestnoobyt1270]

Number 1 is wrong lol 😂 quit glazing

[@wtcher2060]

Damn Ruddock should’ve been DQ’ed for dropping dude after the bell

[@llestat4982]

Didn't Ali win a Gold medal? Then that means that the Lewis vs Briggs was the 1st match since Ali vs Foreman that 2 gold metal winners got down in the ring! Not Foreman vs Frazier

[@davidsegal9453]

As an fyi Greg Page lived for another eight years after the ill fated Dale Crowe fight of 2001. However, it does seem fair to say from my understanding that the injuries from the Crowe fight led to his passing and for those intervening eight years his quality of life was terrible.

[@boxingpedia]

Sad how he went out too. I'd rather not imagine being unable to get myself out of a position where I can't breathe.

[@XenoChron2]

Yeah, but could Sylvester beat Foreman? I think not. 24:40

[@Ihavenoidea12342]

George Foreman is my favorite one

[@gordonmorris6359]

I always liked and rooted for Ray Mercer, Tommy Morrison, Donovan Razor Ruddock, and Michael Moorer, so it was hell watching Ray repeatedly punch Tommy while Tommy was out on the ropes, that ref ruined Tommy, then seeing Razor waved out on his feet PREMATIRELY, with no standing 8-count even, was torture, and Ray & Tommy never getting to fight Tyson & Moorer, and Razor never fighting Mercer, Bowe, Moorer & Forman were sorely missed for never happening! Razor never got another title shot even though, after the second loss to Tyson, Razor beat Page, Jackson, lost to Lewis by TKO in 2nd.rd., decisioned Wade, lost by TKO in the 6th to Tommy, then went on a TEN fight winning streak to win and retain the Canadian title til he retired in 2001, came back in 2015 with ywo wins, then lost ny KO and retired for good, at 40-6-1 (draw). Incidentally, I was glad Ray won the WBO, but it always looked to me like Mercer's ELBOW broke Damiani's nose, he missed the punch, I saw it that way then and still do, maybe it was an accidental miss, but it was also possibly even a purposeful forearm elbow foul under the guise of a missed uppercut, an act of desparation perhaps.

[@boxingpedia]

Thanks for the insight and time. Enjoyed your read. I'll have to watch back for that elbow shot in Mercer/Damiani

[@staraptorflock3661]

Some what Objective list of the Top 50 2010s boxers 1. Wladimir Klitchko 2. Anthony Joshua 3. Deontay Wilder 4. Tyson Fury 5. Vitali Klitchko 6. Andy Ruiz 7. Joseph Parker 8. David Haye 9. Charles Martin 10. Bermane Stevern 11. Dillian Whyte 12. Tony Bellew 13. Adam Kowacki 14. Joe Joyce 15. Olekdandr Usyk not heavyweight but he beat bellew beginSubjective 16. Alexander Polviekin 17. Michael Hunter 18. John Mcdermott 19. David Price 20. Derek Chisora 21. Christan Hammer 22. Tony Thompson 23. Sergey Kuzmin 24. Erkan Teper 25. Kubret Pulev 26. Robert Helenis 27. Agit Kabayel 28. Luis Ortiz 29. Mariuz Wach 30. Taras Bidenko 31. Carlos Takam 32. Malik Scott 33. Armir Mansour 34. Gerald Washinton 35. Johann Duhaupas 36. Lateef Kayode 37. Joseph Rabotte 38. Jarell Miller 39. Artur Szpillka 40. Martin Bakole 41. Manuel Charr 42. Mike Perez 43. Vyacheslav Glazkov 44. Filip Hrgović 45. Dominic Breazeale 46. Efe Ajagba 47. Steve Cunningham 48. Eric Molina 49. Jason Gavern 50. Kelvin Price

[@geirjohansen7375]

Haha. Mike even afraid of Buster after the fight. He got schooled.

[@staraptorflock3661]

In it's full glory

[@danieldelavera9212]

Video needs a better narrator.

[@boxingpedia]

Make something of note yourself and I'll consider hiring a new guy, deal? (There will be no response, none of your type ever do I've noticed 😂)

[@danieldelavera9212]

@@boxingpedia sorry if my honest opinion hurt your feelings. You should have thicker skin when you post something publicly. Peace ✌️

[@boxingpedia]

@danieldelavera9212 bait taken. Bout time one of you actually replied. You should be ready for a creator to respond instead of thinking you're clear and safe from any pushback. Like I said, make something of note then get back to me. Stop hiding behind that old ass profile pic too, wishing you still looked like that 😂

[@boxingpedia]

@danieldelavera9212 had to come back one more time for this: you have comments turned OFF on everything you've posted b/c you can't take any heat...but you have np dishing it out...you cant make this shit up 🤣 aite now you can go.

[@matedicmo4512]

I feel like Lenox can not be the goat as many people think. He didnt fight any of these best guys in their prime. He should be in top 3 for sure, but Ali is the goat for me

[@vince11harris]

That’s fair. But he did beat every top guy in the division and even beat a Wladimir who was way younger than him at the time

[@johnjamele]

love your commentary, but you got to get off this confusion of "titles" and "belts." Titles are everything. Belts are used to hold up your pants. WBO, IBF, WBC, WBF, whatever having a belt means NOTHING.

[@boxingpedia]

I'm by the book in this case. Based off your past comments, you seem to think who *you* think is the champ is all that matters. I can't afford that in what is supposed to be an account of history. Having a belt absolutely means something, whether we like it or not.

[@anthonyriordan2391]

I could watch anything to do with Mike Tyson all day. No other boxer really comes close. Maybe Roy Jones Jr but he's a distant second.

[@XenoChron2]

Foreman fought journeymen for most of his comeback. It was a fluke.

[@wulwul5067]

What the fuck was Golota's problem lol

[@boxingpedia]

I'm not sure entirely. He got his mental better together in the 2000s however.

[@wallacejohnson6846]

The real deal

[@geirjohansen7375]

80s bad time. Only drug addicted in the ring. They used from the 60s too. But not at home. Ali and Frazier knew how to use it in the game.

[@Ehrle6969]

Mike tyson is the best ever kidos GIA

[@anthonyriordan2391]

I agree, if you ask me greatest fighter ever IN THEIR PRIME, it's Tyson. Crazy thing is he was like 21 years old. Also what does GIA mean? Thanks

[@Ehrle6969]

@@anthonyriordan2391 gia is a word dat was common used in hip hop in early 2000s. When finished a rhyme u said gia sometimes

[@anthonyriordan2391]

@@Ehrle6969 oh yeah I think I know what you mean it sounds like "jeeah!" Thanks 👍

[@jimkon5767]

Very well done. Too bad you hit your knees for tomato can Lewis. Holyfield won 4 championships- more than any other. Good day ...

[@betzalelhughes4546]

whats up with all you lewis haters?!! Ya'll are driving me crazy....

[@CampsitePyro]

Ruddock sucked. Weak chin, and only beat up journeymen. How was he even considered the favorite in the final four of ‘92? I remember taping this off of HBO as well

[@boxingpedia]

His stock came from two LOSSES to Tyson b/c ppl still believed he was the best. George Foreman said it best how that was a foolish way to rate a fighter and he was right.

[@doublea1620]

Really nice video series, but Lennox Lewis even listed as top 5 GOAT list is laughable. KTFO losses in his "prime" to McCall and Rahman. Nope. Such a good series until the gushing, unwarranted Lewis fanboy commentary took over. First eight or so hours were really enjoyable, though.

[@boxingpedia]

Lennox Lewis beat everyone in this era and avenged both his losses. Holyfield, Mercer, Golota, Tyson, Tucker, Briggs, Morrison, McCall are all on his resume. Bowe is more so responsible for them not fighting, hence no chance to beat him. Him being "chinny" is a myth debunked long ago, get with the times. With his attributes he could compete in and reign over any era. The facts don't care about your feelings. Seems like your unfounded bias and hate for Lewis ruined it for you. Thats your problem. Painfully casual take; good luck arguing Lennox is NOT a top 5 heavyweight.

[@spreadeagle2561]

@@boxingpedia Well said good Sir. The garbage these haters post about the great Lennox Lewis is beyond belief ! ☹!!

[@doublea1620]

Forman, Ali, Holmes, Louis, Johnson, Frazier and Marciano... all eclipse Lewis. And that's just off the top of my head. Don't need luck, just calling a fanboy when I see it. That's ok, I would do the same for Hagler in a Middleweight or Roy Jones in a super middleweight rundown. Furthermore, opinion - even yours - isn't fact. I don't dislike Lennox at all, just think it silly that anyone would have him in a top 5 of all time. His fights with Holyfield and Tyson were far past their primes, Morrison had AIDS when he fought him. And I don't think you will really contend that Mercer, Golata, McCall, or Tucker are really considered a legacy making group. Again, not major shade thrown at Lewis, just not a top 5 all time.

[@boxingpedia]

@doublea1620 If opinion isnt fact, stop spewing yours like it is. Practice what you preach. "...Lewis even listed as top 5 GOAT material is laughable" sounds pretty definitive and like a direct jab. Your list is debatable, goes back to your own opinion hypocrisy. By YOUR own logic, who did Holmes beat that was better than Holyfield? Norton would be your best choice and we can pick that a part all day. You said how Evander was past his best, so was Norton when he fought Larry. Then he got bested by a blown up light heavyweight TWICE. How bout Johnson? The same one that held up the color bar and didn’t fight McVey, Langford, and the type? Marciano? The one who conviently retired right when the division evolved and he didnt have to face Patterson, Liston, and the likes? Frazier who only beat an Ali that was post exile and never managed to beat him again, controversy or not? I'd like to clarify that I'm only using YOUR hypocrisy here and don't agree with any of these narratives, but you should since you're willing to agree as such against Lennox Lewis. The same could be done for Ali, Louis, and any fighter ever but you get the point by now. If you'd said what you said in your last comment, we wouldnt be talking about hypocrisy. "...just think its silly that anyone would have him in a top 5 of all time" is actually an ok statement b/c everyone has their opinion. Regarding the rest: Holyfield was not far past his prime? He'd just whiffed Tyson twice and avenged the Moorer loss emphatically. It's not Lennox's fault they didnt fight sooner, Lennox openly said how he was ready in 1998 but Evander wouldn't fight him yet. Evander was threatened to be stripped if he fought him in 1994 for unification too. Holyfield was formidable still and became champ again after in the 2000s (yes, even if it was against Ruiz). There is also zero grounds of legitimacy to use Tyson being past his best as an excuse when it was Tyson's fault they didnt fight as early as 1996. Tyson cherrypicked Holyfield and paid the price. No version of Morrison would've beaten Lewis and this is another indicator of your bias against Lennox. Mercer, Golota, McCall, and Tucker are very solid names. Lewis beat the VERY BEST version of Mercer and showed along the way that he was NOT chinny at that. Golota had just embarrassed and banished Riddick Bowe (who was coming off a brilliant 1995). McCall was never dropped in his career and it was revenge when Lewis secured that win. It's not Lewis's fault McCall was mentally damaged, he did his job and avenged his lone loss. Tucker was still very formidable and gave Mike Tyson all he could eat 6 years earlier. He didn't fall off until he was in the WBO hunt against the likes of Herbie Hide. Lewis dropped him and decisioned after b/c the man was that tough. How bout Razor Ruddock? Had just went to hell with Tyson and Lewis eviscerated him rather shockingly amidst belief Ruddock would win the 4 man tourney (Bowe, Holy, Lewis). Lennox has the who's who of the division on his resume, everyone except Bowe who he was NOT at fault for not fighting. So yes, it is objectively laughable to argue he is NOT top 5 (especially when you have Frazier and Foreman on that list when they were NOT the best of their era), much less in the talks. You don't become the best of your era to be left out of the GOAT talk and in the manner he did it. He beat every man he faced. And i don't need to address the casual argument of him being "chinny" before that even comes up too, long debunked. Everything you have can be thrown back at you and shows, in fact, how it is YOU who has the bias in effect here. I'm not a fanboy, YOU are just a hater who isnt willing to admit as much. And stop liking your own comments too.

[@doublea1620]

Skin as thin as Lewis's chin. Get off your high horse. I disagree with your opinion and voiced a very legitimate opinion of my own. Never claimed it was fact. Simply responded to your comment about " good luck arguing Lennox is NOT a top 5 heavyweight." I did it with ease. Whether you agree with my assessment truly is of no import to me. Your undying fanboy stance, and unwillingness to realize not everyone shares your opinion, or that your opinion could be anything less than gospel speaks volumes. The fact that you respond with anger to people not sharing your opinion costs you a great deal of enjoyment of the sport and its history and reflects insecurity in your own belief. The debate over the GOAT or the Top 5 will continue regardless of your opinion. Also, McCall wasn't Lewis' lone loss. Rahman knocked him out, too. Yes, Lewis won the rematch. I stand by my assessment and disagree with your opinion. I don't think Lewis is as good as you do. I don't think he's top five of all time. I think he would lose to any of those I listed. If this hurts your feelings, that isn't my problem... but that is also the beauty of the argument and the history of the sport. I am not sure who you think you are to try to dictate to me which comments I like or don't. Much like your opinion, it will have little influence on my actions. Frankly though, I agree that I should reconsider my stance on Holmes, especially given his questionable decisions against several including Norton and getting beaten by Spinx... twice. ... and you DO realize I sat through the ENTIRETY of your series, right? ... all 10 hours of it... clearly it was unbearable. Why do you give a crap if I agree with you? Quit taking disagreement with your opinion as if you got smacked in the mouth. Go make the 00's or do the 60s and I'll hurt your feelings again after I have watched another 3 hours.

[@Topgqrst]

Women always ruin fun

[@vince11harris]

*Toxic women

[@XenoChron2]

24:35-ish 400?!!

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@@XenoChron2 mhm. Depression, lack of care, bad eating habits, etc. will do that.