A Viewer made my Copper Factory Obsolete

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cubicmetre

cubicmetre

Күн бұрын

Literally less than a day after my previous video went live and somebody contacted me on discord with a more advanced theory of copper oxidization along with a layout that actually made my concept obsolete. So I teamed up with them to produce a design that should be perfectly viable in survival gameplay.
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@davidsnow5811
@davidsnow5811 3 жыл бұрын
Major props for giving your platform to give full credit to another talented builder.
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
He did most of the science, but I still stressed over timings and block conveyors for several hours to make this functional. I doubt either of us could of pulled it off separately.
@azap12
@azap12 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I don't remember him giving credit to kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5Lbgphro7qprbM he also uses the powdered snow system.
@azap12
@azap12 3 жыл бұрын
@@cubicmetre So is the fully oxidized copper block also waxed on the other design? Edit: I tested it, waxed don't count as variable b so it's slower
@Angry_M.A.R.I.L.L.A.
@Angry_M.A.R.I.L.L.A. 3 жыл бұрын
This is why Cubic is my favorite TMC youtuber! Legend!
@azap12
@azap12 3 жыл бұрын
@@cubicmetre I had an idea. But I don't know if it would be possible though. *Disclaimer:* I don't know how to code; I don't know how update suppressor works nor do I know how oxidation in code really works. If you manage to somehow skip a line of code where it checks the amount of unwaxed blocks; We can surround it with oxidized copper blocks, then a = 0 and c > 1. For example, there are 128 higher state copper blocks we get b = 128 and we skip the code where it checks the number of unwaxed copper blocks we get a = 0. If we put it in the equation c = b+1/a+1 => c = 129/1 => P = mc^2 => P = m129^2 => P = 16,641 => 1,664,100% LMAO
@Erritiguei1
@Erritiguei1 3 жыл бұрын
“But I highly doubt anyone would need 18,000 oxidized copper per hour” You’re right we need to build 2 of the full-sized ones for 36k
@MrLuigge
@MrLuigge 3 жыл бұрын
well if someone wants to build the statue of liberty multiple times or one very big, it needs a lot of copper indeed :p
@Zedryx69
@Zedryx69 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrLuigge Or maybe they want to build a giant mega base using 1.18 blocks.
@bengermin3104
@bengermin3104 2 жыл бұрын
Scar from hermitcraft would have to disagree
@hakiriakaichi9955
@hakiriakaichi9955 2 жыл бұрын
hermitcraft
@theclover3
@theclover3 2 жыл бұрын
Or 4 for 72K
@SURFACEFUSION_mc
@SURFACEFUSION_mc 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like "extremely practical to use in survival" is a relative statement 😂
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
Practical relative to the previous design obviously. The fact that is easy for a tech player to build should indicate that other playstyles could also use it with only moderate difficulty.
@kkalafus
@kkalafus 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure most players can easily use the schematic to build this, whether or not they follow all of the technical details. If you are the sort of person who will need 1 shulker box of oxidized copper per hour to then I'm sure you will have the resources to build this
@justinbchen
@justinbchen 3 жыл бұрын
Even for more casual players, this knowledge still seems quite useful; if you invest some oxidized copper initially in your manual oxidization layout, then you'll get higher rates on that too. (Of course that requires having a lot of copper, but there certainly is that use case.)
@Razuri_Zeev
@Razuri_Zeev 3 жыл бұрын
But first we need a reliable source of copper.
@justinbchen
@justinbchen 3 жыл бұрын
@@Razuri_Zeev zombie reinforcement farms aren't ideal, but they do work
@Jason-sm4oc
@Jason-sm4oc 3 жыл бұрын
“But I highly doubt anyone would need 18,000 oxidized copper per hour” 'Need' has never even entered the vocabulary of your average SciCraft player...
@spudmatix8770
@spudmatix8770 2 жыл бұрын
Hermitcraft too XD lol
@Freelix2000
@Freelix2000 2 жыл бұрын
"Yes, this machine here will give you three hundred gazillion long grass per dicktick" "But why would I need that much long grass?" "¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
@heartlessalice5801
@heartlessalice5801 3 жыл бұрын
"He then followed up with simulation result from a program he coded himself using python" Minecraft technical player are on par with science researcher now smh smh
@ictogon
@ictogon 3 жыл бұрын
always have been
@frostyusername5011
@frostyusername5011 3 жыл бұрын
what if i told you they are one in the same
@squdioodellover2589
@squdioodellover2589 2 жыл бұрын
They are the same people. If you have fun with technical Minecraft, you probably also like science.
@mikefromco
@mikefromco 2 жыл бұрын
@@frostyusername5011 actually lol
@Freelix2000
@Freelix2000 2 жыл бұрын
bruh as a software engineer employed by a fortune 500 company, I guarantee you I do nothing nearly as impressive as this shit
@t_hodge_
@t_hodge_ 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that you were able to take their suggestion like a true scientist. We don't always get it right, and it's important to entertain alternate solutions which might lead to a new, better solution. With that in mind, a nice QoL feature for this farm might also be to have a "purge" system to get all of the copper in the farm out. Having a storage with an easy to get block like cobblestone which you can place instead of copper for 5 minutes of running the farm would clear out any copper inside, then the output of the blast chamber could filter this item into a separate shulker loader for storage. That way if you only need a portion of what the farm can hold, you can easily fill with copper and purge when it's oxidized. This would add a few extra pieces to the build, but might make it nicer to use for people who don't need the entire farm's worth of copper blocks at once
@CrapZackGames
@CrapZackGames 3 жыл бұрын
_You know what, after all that, I think I'm just gonna place my copper down where I want it to go and wait for it to oxidize there._ Thank you tho!
@robmorris87
@robmorris87 3 жыл бұрын
I bet that's quicker than feckin about gathering all the crap to build one of these.
@VIady
@VIady 2 жыл бұрын
@@robmorris87 it doesn't.
@robmorris87
@robmorris87 2 жыл бұрын
@@VIady what doesn't what?
@VIady
@VIady 2 жыл бұрын
@@robmorris87 it's faster to make one of these than to oxidize copper in large amount.
@ouravantgarde
@ouravantgarde 8 ай бұрын
issue is when you want it to oxidize a specific way
@Monkeylordz88
@Monkeylordz88 3 жыл бұрын
This is so cool! Ever since copper was introduced, everyone just settled for using 4-block spacing, but I always wondered if copper oxidation could be made more efficient in terms of yield per required space. I'm glad to see that this is being looked into.
@diggoran
@diggoran 3 жыл бұрын
I think the 4 block spacing was the natural choice when copper was new, because it was the fastest way to turn your small amount of blocks oxidized as fast as possible, so you could start building with them right away. Now that more people are getting massive stockpiles of copper, being able to oxidize them all with minimal effort and minimal space is becoming the new priority :)
@aliciacordero8399
@aliciacordero8399 2 жыл бұрын
@@diggoran Makes sense. I feel like you would still do the 4-block spacing to oxidise your seed blocks, now you can just turn around and use those to set up something more space-efficient like this factory.
@sjh199
@sjh199 3 жыл бұрын
15:46 Therapist: ilmago&mumbo hybrid can’t hurt you. It doesn’t exist. *ilmumbo:
@MichaelPohoreski
@MichaelPohoreski 3 жыл бұрын
Also @11:44 :-)
@Wyrnikh
@Wyrnikh 3 жыл бұрын
*mumbango?
@DialecticRed
@DialecticRed 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wyrnikh Google translate seems to think this means "In the race" . . . I guess mumbango is in the race to become the best Mumbo-Mango hybrid! . . . Mungo Jungo? . . . this is too fun lmao
@nikolasscholz7983
@nikolasscholz7983 3 жыл бұрын
Some maths: The star shape around one copper block (=4 block taxicab distance) has a=128 blocks without the center block. In this example setup we have b=39 fully oxidised copper blocks around each not fully oxidised copper block. This gives c²=9.61%. Multiply this with m=0.75 for pure copper or m=1 for any other stage and then with 64/1125 (acc to mc wiki) to get the probability to oxidise the center block when random ticked. In our example this would be 0.41% for pure copper and 0.547% for the other stages. As each block is random ticked on average each 68.27 seconds, the mean time to get a pure copper block to oxidise to exposed in the shown arrangement is 4.62 hours (16641 seconds), for the other stages 3.47 hours (12480.75 seconds). Compare this with c²=100% and either 1600seconds (26.7mins) or 1200seconds (20mins) mean oxidation time per copper block in the original setup. But even though we lost a factor of 10.4 in oxidation speed, we can now pack 83.3 blocks to oxidise into the space where only one copper block fit in the original design (cell of 5x5x5=125 blocks). So the new design is (about) 10.4 times slower, but 83.3 times smaller for the same output.
@valeriomastroeni8454
@valeriomastroeni8454 3 жыл бұрын
you have the m wrong its 1 if pure 0,75 everything else
@harrypotter5460
@harrypotter5460 3 жыл бұрын
@@valeriomastroeni8454 Not according to the minecraft wiki.
@valeriomastroeni8454
@valeriomastroeni8454 3 жыл бұрын
@@harrypotter5460 in the video it says as I said, then it can be wrong I didn’t check
@harrypotter5460
@harrypotter5460 3 жыл бұрын
@@valeriomastroeni8454 It is wrong, as Nikolas said in his comment
@Mauricio_Rey
@Mauricio_Rey 3 жыл бұрын
God damn, I’ve so much more interest on knowing how to optimize oxidation of a copper pixel block than on my final Calculus project lmao POG
@Gamer-nc8qp
@Gamer-nc8qp 2 жыл бұрын
i did how vision score pre 2 minutes effects the winrates and kills in leauge for my uni, and got an A
@cyberlemon9840
@cyberlemon9840 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gamer-nc8qp What
@grayire
@grayire 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh darn dude, you're quickly becoming my favorite, which is hard for me because you're an Aussie and I'm a kiwi but I can get over our generational banter because of the genius and well done videos. Thanks so much Cubic, I learn so much from you
@DatHypnoboi
@DatHypnoboi 3 жыл бұрын
I find it so funny whenever he says cubic metre. My sense of humor is awful
@kaffii
@kaffii 3 жыл бұрын
this is it, we've reached the edge of humor
@ictogon
@ictogon 3 жыл бұрын
as an american, i prefer cubicyard
@istoOi
@istoOi 3 жыл бұрын
@@ictogon not a cubiccable? Wheres the cable is of course one tenth of a nautical mile or equal to 100 fathoms under the strict definition or most commonly known as 21,600 barleycorn.
@hannah.
@hannah. 3 жыл бұрын
@@istoOi yep
@adrycough
@adrycough 3 жыл бұрын
@@ictogon as someone with dual citizenship, I prefer the cubiccentiyard
@b0ark1ng21
@b0ark1ng21 2 жыл бұрын
THIS FACTORY IS GENIUS!, you my fine sir have taught me more about redstone then 1000 mumbo jumbo videos AND I LOVE MUMBO VIDS
@charlesbwilliams
@charlesbwilliams 3 жыл бұрын
I clicked on this video just to say that I really liked the title. I think that you could make a low-effort popular series of showing off how other people improved your farms. Anyways, Awesome video :D
@justluke0001
@justluke0001 3 жыл бұрын
its extremely easy to improve anything cubic makes since he spends no time at all making anything
@charlesbwilliams
@charlesbwilliams 3 жыл бұрын
@@justluke0001 I don't know how you meant to come off but you sound like a rude person.
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
Luke is generally just a rude kind of person, people are just like that sometimes.
@gauribadukale2397
@gauribadukale2397 3 жыл бұрын
@@cubicmetre man don't listen to them they do nothing in our lives except than demoltivating us
@gauribadukale2397
@gauribadukale2397 3 жыл бұрын
@@justluke0001 and what did you do in specific that makes you say this bs
@bobdagranny7431
@bobdagranny7431 3 жыл бұрын
Ooooooh this is the new design that you were talking about- This is honestly a revelation as all the other copper farms (that I know of) place copper blocks 4 blocks apart. Props to WorstPacifist!
@MunifTheGreat
@MunifTheGreat 2 жыл бұрын
I can't comment again on the level of process engineering you have gone through in this video. This video alone made me think on how to prep for some of my projects in the workplace. I've even taken notes :D
@rdunlap7186
@rdunlap7186 3 жыл бұрын
The way this farm is explained makes it feel like a TAS for oxidized copper
@professorvatcraft
@professorvatcraft 3 жыл бұрын
The logic and math of the 2 videos are so cool.
@TimTubeTam
@TimTubeTam 3 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the design I had already given up on understanding it. But the way you carefully explained it made me understand it bit by bit a lot better. Major props for that! Excellent video
@puresh9072
@puresh9072 3 жыл бұрын
Me watching this video the entire time: I like your funny words magic man
@usedcolouringbook8798
@usedcolouringbook8798 3 жыл бұрын
The 3rd Industrial Revolution will be inside Minecraft.
@lucaborn9688
@lucaborn9688 3 жыл бұрын
So there are people making difficult graphics and analytics about a imaginary block in an PC game.....how much of a nerd can you be? And that is an compliment! Love the dedication ❤
@manu_faktur
@manu_faktur 3 жыл бұрын
Aww yeah, two m3 copper oxidization videos for the price of one! 😁 Very nice improvement, even though the powdered-snow-blockstream concept still is such a cool idea to me.
@WarChallenger
@WarChallenger 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I took physics courses and got hella confused when you showed the P = mc^2 equation on screen. I was like "What is P that it's equal to a product of the mass-energy conversion equation?"
@__lasevix_
@__lasevix_ Жыл бұрын
Technically, P would then be as P=E
@47GC
@47GC 3 жыл бұрын
I was about to build this in my world when you pull the video just in time. Thank you!
@haddow777
@haddow777 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought. I was playing a game early on when copper came out and I wanted to make a copper roof. I noticed that it took forever to start the process, but once my roof blocks had changed, the new ones I added over time, because it was a slow build, they change much more quickly. To the point when the roof was mostly finished, it seem like any new block added changed in the blink of an eye. Yet, amongst the community there was this idea that spread that keeping blocks together slowed things down. I tried telling lots of people that putting fully changed blocks around new ones speed up the process. I seem to even remember hearing early on that the dev's said this was they way they worked, as the oxidization would spread from more oxidized blocks to less oxidized blocks more quickly. Everyone just ignored me and kept leaving all their blocks spaced way out. Thanks for proving I wasn't crazy. I guess I could have done work to prove it too, but, I don't have the patience for all the work you obviously had to put into this. Great job.
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 2 жыл бұрын
The important thing to note here is that copper blocks spaced apart 4 blocks in the xyz will oxidize and the fastest rate possible regardless of whether they're surrounded by fully oxidised copper. The fully oxidised copper mainly counteracts the effect of other copper blocks of the same oxidation state from slowing down a particular block from oxidizing. Which is useful for when you want to oxidize a lot of copper in a compact space.
@haddow777
@haddow777 2 жыл бұрын
@@cubicmetre true. Still, the way everyone was doing it was by leaving huge spaces where no other copper blocks at all were near each other. In my system with the roof, it didn't matter too much because most of the roof was already fully oxidized, so they accelerated the new ones I put up. In that system, the slowdown due to the new blocks being clumped together wasn't a factor. Obviously, as your awesome graphs and tonnes of work showed, in an optimized system you want the blocks your oxidizing to be separated from each other while still being surrounded by fully oxidized blocks.
@defaultnano
@defaultnano 2 жыл бұрын
3:10 if the copper blocks at a higher oxidization state are waxed, won’t this mean that the coefficient b could be higher than a?
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 2 жыл бұрын
Waxed copped is ignored completely as if it was any other block.
@hutao7917
@hutao7917 2 жыл бұрын
Love how mans isn’t even salty he just did the math and accepted it.
@PhantomInfinity
@PhantomInfinity Жыл бұрын
hearing cubicmetre say cubic metre is so funny for me for no reason
@OmegaDoesThings
@OmegaDoesThings 3 жыл бұрын
I came for the farm, but that push limit extender has my attention
@timgal5868
@timgal5868 2 жыл бұрын
I find oxidizing farms and leaving copper to oxidize in a grid just really funny. The whole point is you just put the copper in place on your build and simply forget about it and let it oxidize itself haha. Then if you want it less oxidized, simply scrape it away until correct and wax it. Yeah it will take longer but why does it matter? The process looks really cool especially since the colors of copper are complementary and will usually go nice with your build in all states of oxidization.
@RotatingBuffalo
@RotatingBuffalo Жыл бұрын
yeah i entirely dont understand the point of this build, like the copper will oxidize on its own? what is the reason for it to be "pre-oxidized" in an elaborate farm
@arbel8160
@arbel8160 3 ай бұрын
Cubicmetre is a technical player so if he can make a farm to "improve" something, he will, even if the practical use is minimal. He likes the challenge, and the viewers like watching him solve it.
@aliinuikalaluhi9694
@aliinuikalaluhi9694 2 жыл бұрын
The excitement you have building these mega machines makes me excited! Cheers to both of you and your intelligence 🍻
@alanwasfound
@alanwasfound 3 жыл бұрын
too underated dude. Keep up the good stuff!
@sc0rch3d
@sc0rch3d 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just totally speechless about the work that went into this analysis...and I'm a math major. So well done. Bravo.
@Nerosofmars
@Nerosofmars 2 жыл бұрын
I loved seeing the graphs and data you provided, this was super well written, thank you!
@RustinPlays
@RustinPlays 3 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video! As always!
@spudmatix8770
@spudmatix8770 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, ive been saying this for the past year in Hermitcrafts comments section, lay out ur copper blocks, spaced out like normal, once it oxidizes completely just add copper blocks directly on top of the oxidized copper blocks instead of replacing them and boom, quicker oxidized copper blocks 🙂so yeah, this made immediate sense to me since iv'e been using this method for the past year in my MC world 😀
@Zuchii
@Zuchii 2 жыл бұрын
Speechless. Your content is VERY inspiring. Great work !
@TitanTubs
@TitanTubs 3 жыл бұрын
Click on the title, stayed for the maths, and build but confused on why or how I would ever build this in either creative or survival. First video of yours I've ever seen.
@advd02
@advd02 3 жыл бұрын
Very inspiring! Some thoughts that came to me about the original design: If you want to oxidize a "small" amount of blocks faster, the old design would be faster than the new one. My understanding is that the new one is faster if you fill above a % of the farm with new copper. Although I'm not trying to say that you would get higher rates, just that you could get your results faster, with less waiting. Unless I missed something? Then, if the copper checks around a diamond(octahedron) shaped area, it should be possible to get a denser layout by separating the blocks diagonaly from each other. Although the increased complexity might not be worth it.
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
I guess this is technically true, with the snow blocks to space blocks apart you also get the functionality of being able to drain the silos without any input of copper blocks, but the mechanisms are insanely complicated.
@red1monster_
@red1monster_ 4 ай бұрын
Oh my god ! I was wondering why my copper build seemed to all oxidise at the same time !!! Thank you !
@milandesrosiers3397
@milandesrosiers3397 3 жыл бұрын
rip the guy who built the old one in survival
@benbuzz790
@benbuzz790 3 жыл бұрын
Damn dude. +1 sub. Thank you so much for the amazing simulation results and technical explanation.
@ThylineTheGay
@ThylineTheGay 3 жыл бұрын
I suppose you could also set up a system to “recycle” the copper and eventually it would all become oxidised
@TheeSlickShady_Dave_K
@TheeSlickShady_Dave_K 2 жыл бұрын
3:57 The look on Albert's face in the second pic, after being let down gently by cubicmetre
@rogercruz1547
@rogercruz1547 2 жыл бұрын
your bot being called Ilmumbo and being half ilmango and half mumbo is just awesome
@lala-xj9hx
@lala-xj9hx 2 жыл бұрын
This man throws the word "extremely practical to build in survival" way too casually I love this type of videos but i can barely make a piston door, i wish one day I'm able to recreate this survival
@monsieurgfx4487
@monsieurgfx4487 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, this blows my mind. I didn't expect people to make scientific and mathematics researches for optimizing minecraft factories. But now that I write this comment and now that I see this video, this absolutely makes sense xD But wow tho, really impressive work and great explainations ! I'm math teacher at math college in france and I would love to teach my pupils probabilties with minecraft applications. That would be awesome. Thank you for this video !
@ancientdebris2996
@ancientdebris2996 2 ай бұрын
All this for oxidized copper. You really put some good work there. That would be everything I need for my 100x100 lightning rod cube i would try to build at my SMP because I'm bored.
@ethanael_yovan
@ethanael_yovan 3 жыл бұрын
Man is too underatted wtf cmon at least give him a hundred k
@alonelykouda
@alonelykouda 6 ай бұрын
I built this in my survival world and finally got it to work. The problem I had was building it using litematica. I placed the copper that was in the machine schematic into my build. Make sure you build this empty and that all the feeds are working in unison and loading in synch. Some other things to anyone else willing and stupid enough to build this make sure that every timer using blocks to count are all counting in unison. If they are off something is wrong. Make sure all the top copper lines are feeding equally into each silo. The system also has a auto shut off if the timing gets off just follow the slime tower made for the note block. If someone ever reads this and wants to know what they are getting into let me say seriously "a comparator is taking a signal from a cake that is the redstone knowledge necessary to figure this all out" ;D
@bottlewisp
@bottlewisp Жыл бұрын
5:34 reminds me of the electro-chemical potential in sacrificial anodes used on large ships to prevent their shit from rusting.
@moncef2733
@moncef2733 3 жыл бұрын
The conveyors of copper slowing down from 4GT to 4224GT and then speed up to 16GT is the most satisfying thing I ever saw in minecraft
@chubokuay590
@chubokuay590 3 жыл бұрын
new cubicmetre in under a week? Hell yeah
@solidmoon8266
@solidmoon8266 2 жыл бұрын
The big difference is that your build can be built and be at full efficiency right from the start. The more efficient one needs exposed copper to already work
@nikolasscholz7983
@nikolasscholz7983 3 жыл бұрын
According to minecraft wiki you swapped the definitions of m. It should be 0.75 for pure copper, 1 for weathered and exposed.
@FrostyFeet27
@FrostyFeet27 2 жыл бұрын
according to the code as well
@oreoicecream1829
@oreoicecream1829 2 жыл бұрын
Dude literally make a skyscraper
@014Darkness
@014Darkness 2 жыл бұрын
This is so precise high level engineering, I can't even imagine how long it took from 1st prototype all the way down to the last model
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 2 жыл бұрын
Actually because I tried to visualize what the final solution would looking like the design was very straightforward. I just needed to connect the dots.
@sh4dow_hunt3r
@sh4dow_hunt3r 3 жыл бұрын
For the copper oxidation issue on the smaller farm, it could be possible to set so that if filters out oxidized copper into the shulker while the other variants just get sent back to the start
@muneebmuhamed43
@muneebmuhamed43 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the only reason why my class mates learn math. To become the next cubicmetre and Mumbo Jumbo. I love Minecraft science. You just earned a new subscriber.
@zandoodle2414
@zandoodle2414 3 жыл бұрын
Can I suggest that in the shulker box unloader, the hopper feeding into the bottom dropper is replaced by a dropper so that the hopper isn't locked by the observer, effectively extending the dropper line one block
@oakleehauschild6083
@oakleehauschild6083 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I cared this much about my classes
@iggen
@iggen 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing work you two 👍 Good video!
@mr.mustache4743
@mr.mustache4743 3 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating, thank you for sharing this.
@dansmith6662
@dansmith6662 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand a word you’re saying but the background music is nice. Good job man thumbs up👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@fishhero2000
@fishhero2000 3 жыл бұрын
“Yeah that seems about right” - Sniper, Tf2
@TheeSlickShady_Dave_K
@TheeSlickShady_Dave_K 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best Minecraft videosi have ever seen 🏆 Instant sub
@spectruma16a44
@spectruma16a44 3 жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely stumped , that someone outsmart in your field of Redstone ! Lol
@justaguycalledjosh
@justaguycalledjosh 3 жыл бұрын
I have never seen your videos before. But I'd recognise that chest hair anywhere. Nice.
@Prime_Rabbit
@Prime_Rabbit 3 жыл бұрын
I just build, I don't do redstone, but dang, can I ever respect the effort, skills and knowledge needed to make these kinds of things
@nosidenoside2458
@nosidenoside2458 2 жыл бұрын
cool! also, this is an actual use for math. wish school had problems like this video
@willdrunkenstein5367
@willdrunkenstein5367 3 жыл бұрын
11:43 Ilmango + Mumbo Jumbo == Ilmumbo???
@willdrunkenstein5367
@willdrunkenstein5367 3 жыл бұрын
15:41 Wow that really is Ilmango + Mumbo
@mrmaxmondays
@mrmaxmondays 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that last video too lol
@nikolasscholz7983
@nikolasscholz7983 3 жыл бұрын
Ilmumbo is a real person, look up their yt channel kzbin.info/door/f9SYal_h3WSoksvxLYruuQ
@ethanael_yovan
@ethanael_yovan 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikolasscholz7983 lul but the name on the video probably referenced what this comment said
@nikolasscholz7983
@nikolasscholz7983 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanael_yovan I'm pretty sure cubic is also an ilmumbo enjoyer as many other scicrafters are
@kunu0285
@kunu0285 3 жыл бұрын
Mom: are you studying for your Math exam tomorrow? Me: wellllllllll
@Predated2
@Predated2 3 жыл бұрын
I personally knew about the oxidized copper helped oxidize pure copper faster and the spacing helped out too, so I had been having copper oxidize on top of oxidized copper to have quite nice rates. I wasnt aware that more oxidized copper would mean an even quicker conversion.
@volbla
@volbla 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, that is a very useful insight. More oxidized blocks nearby doesn't speed up the oxidization per se, but they offset the massive slowdown from blocks of the same level. If you only have a lot of blocks of the same level nearby, the chance to oxidize will be a very small number. If about half of the nearby blocks are more oxidized, the chance to oxidize will be about a half. Doing alternating sheets like this will about halve the oxidization rate compared to completely spread out blocks, but the density of copper blocks will go from 1/125 to 1/2. Sounds extremely worth it 👍 edit: Well, the fact that it doesn't oxidize at all if there are any less oxidized blocks nearby slows the process down further. Now almost all blocks must progress to the second stage before they can start heading to the third stage. Completely spread out blocks can keep going instantly. Still worth it though. edit2: Half the nearby copper being more oxidized doesn't halve the rate. It of course quarters it, because c^2 :]
@AndrewBrownK
@AndrewBrownK 3 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of investing, you have to have oxidized copper sitting in place to get oxidized copper coming out
@Tilespawn
@Tilespawn 3 жыл бұрын
This feels like something that belongs on the SciCraft server. very technical and optimized, very cool.
@survivor.iogamer10923
@survivor.iogamer10923 3 жыл бұрын
im so glad that i can actually understand what he is saying
@httoyson6293
@httoyson6293 2 жыл бұрын
Meters? Seconds? Feet? Mile? NOPE! Everything shall be measured in G A M E T I C K
@dreamingwanderer1124
@dreamingwanderer1124 2 жыл бұрын
At about 5:25, you state that adding oxidized copper would increase both the a and b values. But wouldn't they cancel each other out and ave the same net outcome?
@masi416
@masi416 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same and you are right if there is only the one block in the middle you try to oxidize. But if you pack the blocks to be oxidized closer than the extra blocks will help to speed up the proces.
@matty4z
@matty4z 2 жыл бұрын
if nothing else the "Block Conveyor Extender" design will be really handy for some builds
@devilmok
@devilmok 2 жыл бұрын
meanwhile a sneaky minecraft update made copper waxing factory obsolete
@luipy
@luipy 2 жыл бұрын
6:00 If the pure copper block is waxed, will the exposed copper block also not oxidize more?
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 2 жыл бұрын
With regards to the chances of a copper block oxidising, waxed copper is treated like any other non-copper block in that it contributes nothing to the oxidisation rate.
@rogue_ruggie
@rogue_ruggie 3 жыл бұрын
What is nice is we can run a sb of copper blocks through the system, then just go afk at your copper farm for a bit, and repeat the process
@grimsage5809
@grimsage5809 3 жыл бұрын
granted you need to be in random tick range of the oxidization factory, but you could just build close to the copper farm for that.
@Alt-Key_Here
@Alt-Key_Here 2 жыл бұрын
Copper really should oxidize faster when raining or near water. It could use the same system as crops on farmland.
@MichaelPohoreski
@MichaelPohoreski 3 жыл бұрын
@11:44 Ilmumbo? This episode is like a cross over between ilmango and Mumbo Jumbo! :-)
@MrKahrum
@MrKahrum 3 жыл бұрын
i KNEW it!!! the single block modules with observer to auto farm would actually be better, if the area around that block is seeded with oxidized, now that ive heard the actual mechanics. BUT I CALLED IT, on a hermits video, i think Grains, where he had a sheet. i said he should seed it.
@Elyzeon.
@Elyzeon. 2 жыл бұрын
No
@sunbr0547
@sunbr0547 3 жыл бұрын
Turns out the real oxidized copper was the friends we made along the way!
@KiwiRedstone
@KiwiRedstone 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's practical and makes sense. But imagine having to collect all those oxidized copper before building an oxidizer... Also, does P=mc^2 and c=a/b come from reading game code or observation?
@wefhy
@wefhy 3 жыл бұрын
You can just build it with regular copper and wait for your farm to oxidize
@madman2572
@madman2572 3 жыл бұрын
@@wefhy and wait around 120 hours for it all to oxidize. Luckily, in 1.18 you can oxidize copper blocks manually and cut them into 4 cut copper blocks each.
@Monkeylordz88
@Monkeylordz88 3 жыл бұрын
The equations most likely come from looking at the code.
@TheRealWormbo
@TheRealWormbo 3 жыл бұрын
Also reminder that you can get 4 cut copper blocks out of a regular copper block. In other words, you only need to collect copper blocks for a quarter of the machine and then cut it up with the stone cutter.
@TheGlitchRoom
@TheGlitchRoom 3 жыл бұрын
@@madman2572 >manually wdym?
@JohnJohnson-jr6hp
@JohnJohnson-jr6hp 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason the copper oxidization being sort of uniform reminds me of how ice melts. It won't get any warmer until all the ice is melted, in the same way steam won't get hotter until all water is transformed to steam. Unrelated, but interesting.
@thomasfplm
@thomasfplm Жыл бұрын
Considering that the progress of oxidisation is random, I was thinking if it would be more efficient to make a farm that has a lower proportion of fully oxidised copper leaving and just recycling the blocks that fail to oxidise completely.
@deanb6489
@deanb6489 3 жыл бұрын
Talk about taking Minecraft to a whole new level.
@adonai4493
@adonai4493 3 жыл бұрын
You know I thought I was good with red stone for making a giant auto sorter and a few other machines.. then I saw this video…
@paulw4848
@paulw4848 3 жыл бұрын
cliff notes for this vid: "you need oxidized copper to oxidize copper faster" XD
@god-we1bb
@god-we1bb 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who is waiting to docm77 to make this design on hermitcraft?
@nikitashkredov8901
@nikitashkredov8901 2 жыл бұрын
Am i building something with copper? No. Will i ever build this farm? No. Am i actually playing Minecraft? No. Have i watched every second of this video? Yes.
@hextecneko14
@hextecneko14 3 жыл бұрын
i think a super dense pre buffer could solve the problem if you combine it with a long timer that locks out the imput while the buffer is full could make the small farm more practical takeing it from come back every hour to every 5 or so hours
@rev9436
@rev9436 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting video!
@IamTheHolypumpkin
@IamTheHolypumpkin 2 жыл бұрын
While I didn't care about the copper farm. I like the infinite extension of the piston feed tape. I tried to come up with it my self (for a vertical tape) for a long time. But I never really got into a lot of complicated red stone in the last 5 years so, So my design was slow and clunky. I really want to build an infinite long paternoster elevator for a very long time and now I can
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