A week with Joying head unit and everything wrong with it

[@666nacirema666]

For split screen click the recent apps button, click the app icon or the split screen icon on the open app, select a 2nd app.

[@praszu]

But does the 10.1 have a split screen? I think only 12.3 model?

[@abellas70]

Joying support is pretty good send then an email with a picture of you current head unit version (somewhere in settings) and they'll email you a link for the latest firmware/update. I had one in my WRX and it was overall great. Yes i understand your annoyances and there can be work around for most. I actually preferred using the amplifier output to the digital as at the time i didn't have a conductor.

[@lowfat32]

What year WRX? Can you adjust vehicle settings?

[@TickleFingers]

I have a Joying and I have had it for over 2 years now. It has had none of the issues you're having and all internal EQ and dsp functions will affect optical or digital coax out. There is either something wrong with your unit or you need to work on the settings. Mine has a perfectly flat response via either Optical or Digital Coax. You need to contact Joying and they will help.

[@JasonWW2000]

What model do you have? Is it Android 10?

[@figgy1682]

@@TickleFingers I have, they don’t care to help, have the email chain to prove it, and they only say “don’t like, return” , that’s not customer service at all. While they are correct but to not try to fix anything and just return it after paying to install now take it out and ship back to China. They’re not a good company, in my opinion, I’ll never buy from them again and I’ll let everyone know ever chance I get, to not bother with them.

[@JasonWW2000]

My older Android 10 based Joying natively accepts resistance based steering wheel control signals. If your vehicle's steering wheel controls are analog, you should be able to wire it up without an adapter. If your steering wheel buttons are digital, then you would need an adapter. It's great being able to do things like play pause or skip to the next track from the steering wheel. I also use the up-down volume so I can pretty much operate my unit strictly from the steering wheel.

[@MrHermangv]

Thanks for the info, main reason why am going with this unit, hoping for an easy installation on my ford excursion,

[@JasonWW2000]

​@MrHermangv If you can find a radio schematic for your year model, look to see if the steering wheel control uses two wires or one. My 2004 Navigator uses analog steering wheel buttons, but it goes into a module that converts it to a single wire going into the radio (digital signal). (This might be because there are secondary radio controls in the second row area) The 2004 Expedition (sister vehicle) doesn't have the module and has two wires going into it's radio (analog). This caught me off guard, but I was able to use an adapter so no big deal. I'm not familiar with the Excursion, but it's a similar year range. It could be either one.

[@bensonporter1384]

How much ram and rom & core u have on that android stereo ????

[@bennyblanco14]

Thats crazy. The EQ doesn't affect the sound when using digital.. my Atoto S8 Pro allows me to adjust.

[@JasonWW2000]

That doesn't seem crazy to me at all. The whole point of the digital output is to feed it into a DSP. Maybe this is the reason the digital output is so clean?

[@RediMischa]

For two weeks now i have also installed a Joying radio in my BMW E91. It replaced a Zenec radio which had strong background noise/interference. I specifically choose the version with a physical volume control on my radio because i suspected that volume controlling on the display would not be practical. Splitscreen works simply for me because there is an icon in the top right of the display and the rear camera works automatically as soon as i put the car into reverse. In general, i'm happy with it so far. There are countless setting options. But one thing bothers me, i only listen to music from a usb-stick. When i start the radio there is only one song in my music folder and it takes several minutes until all the songs are loaded and displayed :/

[@RAW-CAt]

Same here, it takes a minute or two for the HU to read the USB stick. I would imagine a better option would be to have your songs in the internal memory.

[@bbfoto7248]

​@@RAW-CAt @RediMischa Just as an "FYI", using any of my Kenwood eXcelon Reference head units (even the older 2018 DDX9905S model), I have a portable 2.5" 2TB USB HDD connected to each of them via one of the two available USB inputs, and ALL of the songs on the drive are pretty much INSTANTLY available to Play or Search. It's the same when I use a 1TB USB thumbdrive. Units similar to this but one's that need to fully "index" or re-scan the connected USB memory storage device EVERY TIME they boot up or are turned on drives me crazy, LOL. From my research, for full functionality, you need to make sure to connect all of the appropriate wires in the harness to enable auto-camera switching, SWC, Display Dimmer, etceteras, and you can connect the optional ODBII module so that the head unit receives a lot more information from the vehicle's ECU and what state certain functions are in or if they are active at any given time. Maybe I missed it, but I would appreciate if you listed the exact Model # of these units in the Title or in the Video Description just so your viewers know which unit you are discussing and have a reference to compare apples-to-apples features and functionality when looking at other models. Cheers

[@bbriankb1086]

Need to connect the reverse wire on the loom, if your car had a OEM back up camera the wire may be behind the head unit, if it didn't, you should try to find a wiring diagram for your vehicle. Locate the reverse switch on the transmission and trace it back. You can usually find a spot in its route back to the ECU that's convenient enough to splice in for the head unit. Make sure to test it with test leads before you cut anything😁

[@JasonWW2000]

Yes, it needs to have that 12-volt signal to know when to switch.

[@figgy1682]

I bought one of their 9" headunits for my car and its a damn bad experience. to fix anything with this unit you have to do da reset on the front panel just for it to work with anything you add. They do a lot of false advertising and their customer service si the worst. they take no accountability for the false advertisements, they say camera or steering wheel controls work and they don't! the work on certain models even though the advertise as it works. You email them about the steering wheel controls and rear camera doesn't work , just like their advertisement says these things will work wit h the plug and play kit, and it only works with certain models and don't say this in the ad, even though they sell you a plug and play kit with these features. their answer to things not working is " you're not happy? return!' but what about all the money spent to install and run and hide antennas, and a secondary fee to uninstall the unit and shipping to return the unit to china. I would think twice about this company just because of the customer service and the quality of the unit is not the greatest. WiFi works when it wants to, its just not worth the money in my opinion.

[@cosettapessa6417]

Chinese crap

[@tomfoss82]

Had a joying unit in my jeep and loved it, but it was putting out some kind of emf that wouldn't let my key fob open the door so had to let it go.

[@matthewrivera7564]

Btw don’t max out the volume it clips badly

[@RAW-CAt]

That is digital volume, I did test it out in my previous distortion video, you might want to check that out😉

[@justkiddin1980]

@@RAW-CAt hey man can i ask you something? What is your opinion for the B2 audio riot 15v2 for infinite baffle?? Or an replacement for my Fi ib315v2 on the continental Europe? I’m stuck in datasheets and don’t want to spend a fortune on new woofers..

[@RAW-CAt]

@@justkiddin1980 B2 makes spl subs for ported enclosures, not IB. People use Dayton drivers in IB as they are mostly designed for sealed home theatre applications.

[@justkiddin1980]

@@RAW-CAtYeah i was eying that new mx15 maxx from dayton…Thanks man it makes it a lot easier..

[@justkiddin1980]

@@RAW-CAt Yeah i think i’m going to order a recone and save up for One audio 15’s

[@zhodge0]

I thought it was great when I 1st got it; however, after a 9 months I am not that thrilled with it. It takes my eyes off the road a lot due to having to adjust this or that. Also, I have to reboot it a lot due to the volume going soft and the rear speakers fading - why - I don't know, but a reboot corrects the fading of the rear speakers. Lastly, Joying support is available but every issue I have fixed on my own by hunting through the factory menu and playing with the controls.

[@sinfronterascommunications6506]

Wonderful video, have you checked the RAM utilization when the unit stutters? My Android unit would hiccup as the memory utilization would be high. I eventually decided to have my unit reboot on startup, freeing memory. Granted boot time was a few seconds longer but performance has been steady.

[@nickp.4915]

@Raw-Cat hmmm I have similar Joying unit 2024 flagship model. My screen looks bigger than yours, otherwise the same. I have the single DIN model. I am using the Toslink optical output into my JL Audio VX-1000/5i and I can use the Joying software EQ with no issue to tune... if I heard correctly you said you re using the coaxial if you have an optical option on your DSP you might want to give that a test. I LOVE my Joying HU so much I have one in each ov my cars and JL Audio VX-1000/5i amp in each vehicle... it's a match made in heaven!

[@kewlbug]

This is gonna sound weird. But I saw you flip the conductor knob w your thumb. Just a heads up, conductor (and director) wear out super quick if you’re not careful. My first only lasted a year. So now I use a finger and thumb to be careful turning as much as I can remember too. And they charge like $200 for these crappy knobs. 😂

[@RAW-CAt]

Yeah, heard that, we will see how much mine will last.

[@_aPaladin]

Android units have a sleep time setting. You can set it to sleep off so it completely is turned off when the car is off, usually there is a 1 day sleep, 2,3, etc... If you set it to 1,2,3 day sleep, ofcourse bootup time will be instant. If you set it off, where it actually is turned off, when you start your car again it will have to boot up the android logo etc, will take longer....

[@thefunkybassist9916]

For the stuttering, if it's CPU related, there is a system setting for CPU performance which might be worth trying. Default it's on "low" performance. Could the DTS be using a compression algorithm for virtual spatial positioning? Edit: I see in the end you used the CPU setting already. I only have very minor stutters on smooth, so it could still be smoother, I might try monitoring CPU processes to see what's hogging it.

[@vipercrazy-9]

I have a new android 12 unit with the 9 inch screen, I have no stutters but I only use wireless android auto and the internal amp. After working good for 2 months, now a couple times it has skipped to the next track by itself, may be the unit, or may be an issue with a worn out steering wheel button. My main problem is the screen is too dim during the day even after going into locked options and setting to 100%, and no one else seems to have the same issue.

[@ATOTO-Zoe]

We watched the video you posted about Carplay and your explanation and installation of the product was really great and very easy for customers to listen to and understand, and we're excited because we want to give you a free Atoto car radio to review!

[@RAW-CAt]

Please email me at [e-mail]

[@ATOTO-Zoe]

Thanks for the quick reply, we'll send you an email right away, have a great day!

[@hypeac]

Thank you for the review! Is the SPDIF Coax bit perfect or does it go through the Android 48 kHz resampling?

[@RAW-CAt]

Everything in this HU is limited to 48kHz.

[@hypeac]

@@RAW-CAt Thanks for the prompt answer

[@TickleFingers]

You can bypass the android limitations with USB Audio Player Pro. Same thing you would use with an android phone.

[@ginodavis]

I think you need to keep the DTS "ON" inorder to get any of the other sound settings.

[@rangelguitarhero]

Comprei um Helix dsp 3s e estou procurando uma HU saida digital pra usar com DSP. Me corriga se eu entendi a tradução direito, não dar pra equalizar a saída digital pelo DSP???? Justamente o que eu procurava não vou conseguir fazer ? Outra coisa, o som no resultado final, ficou satisfatório ? Abraço, ganhou um inscrito 😉

[@nathanjames4242]

It seems insane that the EQ doesnt affect the digital out.

[@Smokeey409]

Weird because my atoto does affect the optical out from EQ menu

[@dono9955]

This audible stutter happens to mine too. I have the unit with volume knob on a rav4 and the stutter time is very minuscule but very noticeable and breaks immersion with whatever you’re listening too. I found that it only happpens through Bluetooth and there are times when it stutters so much that the BT disconnects and it’s forced to basically reset the connection. It doesn’t happen when I’m connected through a wired connection though, so I think it’s a Bluetooth firmware issue? It’s super annoying

[@RAW-CAt]

After a month or so the stutter disappeared for me. Now everything is perfect!

[@TheGlobe81sax]

if I connect this unit with a toslink cable to a dsp the volume can be adjusted from the unit?

[@RAW-CAt]

Yes.

[@Elberoth]

Is there an email to contact you re remote tuning session?

[@RAW-CAt]

[e-mail]

[@lowfat32]

If you are using the optical out, does the volume on the HU still adjust volume?

[@RAW-CAt]

Yes, it does👍

[@zikomaestro]

thx for the video a question about sleep mode when you turn engine on the screen is so fast to appear do you know if this mode consume battery while car is off ? thx

[@RAW-CAt]

Yes it does, but extremely small amount. My battery does not drop even 1% over a few days.

[@zikomaestro]

@@RAW-CAt thx a lot

[@matthewrivera7564]

There is an update on the joying website

[@666nacirema666]

I wouldnt update it since people have gotten partial root on the older roms

[@666nacirema666]

at least the roms before the january update.

[@Bobbyyuux]

Just got the head unit last week, my only huge complaint is the Bluetooth audio stutters occasionally as well. Noticed it doesn’t have when I am on a wired connection. Drives me nuts. Please let me know if u find a solution

[@bonholio0o]

How in the world did you figured out to get this thing to boot up so quickly? I have 10 year old unit made specifically for Toyota Camry and it takes a good 8 to 10 mins to start up. Backup camera is always in CVBS mode, I could not get it to work with any AHD camera. Video quality is always terrible

[@RAW-CAt]

Android head units improved massively over the last couple of years. Maybe time for an upgrade?

[@Redpower_Official]

Let's make head unit for you with pure optical signal

[@pkol07]

Hi, please tell me what is better. I had Sony XAV9550ES. I want a radio with full Android and I will connect it with optical. I'm afraid that the cheap Chinese processor won't give the full stage and depth of sound even after optical. Do you have any ideas?

[@RAW-CAt]

Head unit has absolutely nothing to do with the stage or depth of sound. Head unit (android or other) just passes the signal, if it's digital, it is the best quality that it can possibly be. Processor has nothing to do with that as well, as it just defies the speed of the device. Stage is defied by speaker locations and install. Depth is in the recording itself.

[@pkol07]

​@@RAW-CAt Thank you 😊 So the worse sound is the fault of the built-in DAC in the helix m six dsp. The DAC in the Sony provided better sound.

[@RAW-CAt]

@@pkol07 not sure how you cameto this conclusion. You cannot bypass a dac in the DSP. But for best sound you would not want to use head unit dac, and go digital into the dsp.

[@pkol07]

@@RAW-CAt hmm so what is the best way? I have now some chinese android radio with RCA and optical out. I have connected by optical to helix m six dsp, but I feel that is playing worst than my old Sony XAV 9550ES. (I need make new measurement anyway) but first feelings is, Less clean, less scene, worse instrument separation.

[@RAW-CAt]

@@pkol07 not sure what to as as your experience is the opposite of anyone that I know and myself 🤷

[@renegalindo9537]

I have the Alpine 705 and it also had the random glitch.

[@shawnosbourne9439]

My camera turns on every time I put my car inreversed . I don't have to go through any app

[@mdhoan]

How's the mic response on this unit?

[@RAW-CAt]

Can't complain, people can hear me clear.

[@fretflyer1]

On my iDoing stuttering happened on coax (I used it as alternative input for measures), but it never happens on optical SPDIF. Maybe try that?

[@RAW-CAt]

Yes, worth a try, just need a long enough optical cable..

[@travisbarrow3408]

​@RAW-CAt mine stutters on KZbin music using optical output. I can see the screen stutter too. I've tried updating the app and reinstalling both to no avail.

[@MrDannys376]

For me the radio sucks, Keeps losing signal, Have put an amplifier in too

[@RAW-CAt]

Yeah, you don't buy a HU with digital aut to listen to radio...

[@sultankurmankojoev4569]

Nice to see a Russian song on playlist. 😁Do you speak russian by the way?

[@RAW-CAt]

I did. Not used the language for over 10 years,so I'm rusty with it🙂

[@jondonnelly3]

Just use an ipad mini cellular and usb to spdif hacked to also charge ipad. Very responsive.

[@CosminCraiova]

bro, just get a Sony 9500/9550ES ...

[@RAW-CAt]

A £1000 for a head unit? Yeah, no.

[@CosminCraiova]

@@RAW-CAt quality is not cheap bro !

[@RAW-CAt]

@@CosminCraiova not really mate. There is quality that can be cheap. And there are overpriced stuff that people buy just because of the name.

[@CosminCraiova]

​@@RAW-CAta lot of times that's true, but in this case tell me a single head unit as good as the Sony and a lot cheapper ! Needs to have the same features: hi res player, ldac, really good signal etc. I looked and didn't find anything close. Maybe the Alpine Halo 11, but some guys told me that the Sony is alot better.

[@jake8661]

Sony doesn't have digital output, does it?

[@praszu]

OK so in general, not so much wrong with it really. Some annoying UI things mainly.

[@RAW-CAt]

That is correct. All in all a very good UH.

[@praszu]

@@RAW-CAt Ok, I'm aping in.

[@praszu]

@@RAW-CAt Can you confirm that the 10 inch has a split screen? The seller I am getting this from messaged me saying it does, but it was not advertised. Only the flagship 12 inch is advertised as having split screen.

[@RAW-CAt]

@@praszu yes, you can use split screen on the 10in 👍

[@praszu]

@@RAW-CAt cool, if I got 12.3 the screen would get cooked with hot air from the vents on each side.

[@Race.Engineer]

why are you messing with the unit when you don't need any of its functions???

[@RAW-CAt]

I got the unit mainly to measure it's distortion and to break the stigma about android head units that is floating online. That all android head units are trash and sound bad. All I need is a clean source and if other people can get it for a fraction of the price compared to top of the line big brand head units, that's great.

[@Race.Engineer]

Maybe I misunderstood your video, but if your running a setup with external DSP and hopefully an optical out then does any of this matter? It's just easier to have a hard wired install than it is to have to mess about with usb cables to phones or BT etc. I have ordered a joying purely as they do a model specific unit and i can use it as the source unit, using a separate data sim or hot-spot from my phone. I run Tidal app for music, I just want a clean install rather than cables everywhere or distractions 😊

[@G3R1PHONE]

most annoying thing... dude... for you must be not being a lefty ! how the heck do you drive and control the unit ?

[@13BTRX3]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKbMfJqXnLRqZ7ssi=4k6jEiKKOXKm6pOf Easier to just share a video, than try to explain it in text. Split screen is a game changer!

[@RAW-CAt]

Oh, nice, will have to try this, thanks 👍

[@thefunkybassist9916]

I've been using it since the Android 10 units with Apple Music + Maps. Quite happy with the Android 12 implementation of it, it works quite intuitive usually.

[@CDOGG181]

You’re driving on the wrong side of the car!

[@RAW-CAt]

I know😂😂😂

[@rts100x5]

ya at least clean the damn screen

[@RAW-CAt]

I do, twice a day, still gets dirty😬

[@sumitmalhotra7412]

​@@RAW-CAt Maybe a screen guard would help

[@BorCane-no9ji]

You want to meet up and talk about your problem w me. You dont have to be so shy. Why be this way to me. What s the problem why u hating on me u just be better than me

[@JasonWW2000]

It might be because you have a passive aggressive stalker vibe. The way you're talking is not the proper way to speak to someone.