A Whole NEW WORLD? Well.. Not For Me

[@PrinceArtemis]

"FF is better" - Preach Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.

[@Bains12300]

@@shaggjones4854 I dunno, 9:18

[@billymays9296]

To be fair, being waterboarded would be better than playing New World, the game sets the bar low.

[@RealmDesigner]

Urgh. "we got him" who is this "we" you are talking about? YOU didn't do anything. This has to be up there with the most cringe comments. yuck

[@gaultrenn]

based

[@Foreverblunted]

The game looks boring af lol

[@whackronomicon]

Someone had to say it. (I agree)

[@Oxmosh]

@@whackronomicon The combat has always looked dogshit to me and it always turned me off. That pvp also look dreadful

[@LostBear.]

I'm playing it (currently Lv.40) and I agree that the quests are dogshit and the combat is clunky af The game's fun if you play with friends but I am worried about hitting 60 due to the fact that there is no real endgame content, especially for PvE. I'm playing on Tupia (EU) Syndicate and we have only First Light, Warmongers have 1 location aswell, and the rest is owned by Covenants. And these locations have been owned by the same companies since day 1. I just hope they will somehow balance this faction problem out before me and my friends get bored or frustrated from this game.

[@yurongreyjoy6163]

8:16 - "This is a game for people who really enjoy it." Solid insight.

[@josiahclarke3535]

Fucking killed me

[@DarkScreamGames]

"I'm an MMO player but I don't like grinding" - I turned off the video there and bought the game LOL

[@willkarn9750]

@@DarkScreamGames Come back in a week when you realize there is one model for every single barn, or any other building in the game. 3 quests and 5 mobs in the whole game outside of instances.

[@johnnymartinjohansen]

@@DarkScreamGames If you LOVE grinding, this IS the game for you. Almost no variations in quests, VERY few mob models, doing the same stuff over and over. And if you wanna keep all crafting professions on par with your toon, you'll probably spend 100+ hours without leaving the first area. No, I'm not kidding.

[@antvn222]

@@johnnymartinjohansen true

[@veliona8920]

I've personally never understood the hype around new world, It looks like just another generic F2P MMO with pretty graphics. Nothing about the game really stands out or sets it apart from the hundreds of other MMO's before it.

[@MuzgontarAco]

So I'm not the only one.. generic but brand new without the years of content that other MMOs have..

[@djscrewe]

I’m getting the ESO feeling out of this game. It’s fun but I can’t say I’m having a blast

[@laverathanf2073]

Yeah. It feels like open world Cyrodiil. Running around, avoiding enemies, zerging castles... Or collecting, gathering, and exploring while avoiding the other factions. Not a bad thing but certainly not something that'll keep me around for more than a few weeks.

[@needheals8906]

it's literally soulless eso

[@panamakira]

At least ESO had a story and some lore to go along with it. The voice acting wasn't the worst either. While not the best MMO out there, it had a better start than NW. I was surprised at how basic the quest system is here is. It really is just fetch quests with no story.

[@waltwhite8126]

@@panamakira I actaully enjoyed the quest board system, but I think they should have gone full OSRS here, having the board to do the leveling quests (with waaay more variety) and also having some log intricate questlines (like OSRS) with nice rewards in the end. But I feel like they needed two more years to polish the whole leveling experience and make more content not only for leveling, but for endgame too. It is just too barebones right now. I'll try to play it like I played Albion Online, but in Albion the grinding was fun because you had to risk yourself in the PvP zones (where you can die and lose everything you grinded), while here even if I die nothing will happen, it just doesn't have that underlying danger of going on a high danger zone to gather resources. The pvp risk/reward just isn't there in NW, unfortunately. To me, if an MMO wants to focus on PvP it needs to be full loot (or close to that). IMO PvP without high stakes is meaningless.

[@jamiegrayson7583]

Text him on Whats App

[@axl4394]

My issue with the game is I don’t know what to look forward to. It feels like a long road with nothing at the end of it

[@meepo4212]

This is exactly how I feel.

[@Fantasmasemcasa]

Explore, build a reputation, housing, crafting, social

[@OboYarn]

Sometimes it is nice to not have all your goals set at the endgame

[@barbourmania]

@@Fantasmasemcasa boring.

[@Lucroarna56]

@@barbourmania I find every MMOs endgame boring and repetitive, because they're all the same. This is more of an open world, PVP social game.

[@brighteyesseven1071]

"Under-cooked" was my feeling during the open beta and why I decided to hold off on buying it for now. I kinda felt that after so many delays they were under pressure to get this launched and flesh it out later. I am still fairly confident of AGS's commitment to this game and I'm planning on giving it a go after one or two content patches.

[@psytic]

I refunded after beta might check in next year once they get some actual content. Undercooked is a great way to describe it.

[@tisjester]

Yea, but there is no sub fee.. Not to mention if you were not there at launch then you will have to do the same old MMO thing of figure out a way to make a name you like.. Sure maybe they will discount it or something in the future?!?!? and rely on the Cash shop (which is not P2W at least not right now lol). but I would not count on it.. It is already so cheap that I feel like I already got my money out of it just with playing the Beta.

[@df6597]

Hell, at launch it's more than under-cooked at this point, it's under-conceived. There's some fundamental shit missing. It's a shame too because the crafting and gathering is decent, and the combat has a great foundation, it's missing depth and polish. The questing is plain terrible, but I've always hated most mmo quests. The Star Wars mmo did it the best, and the story there was awesome. It still had that annoying MMO theme park thing to it, but we don't have the technology or intellectual capacity to design and implement a truly dynamic world yet.

[@billymays9296]

@@tisjester The sub fee isn't a determining factor in if something is worth the price or not. That such a weird take. The game offers literally nothing and costs $40, just because it doesn't have a sub fee doesn't mean it's okay to charge $40 for nothing at all lol.

[@Dragon211]

same, right now I don't feel new world is worth my time in the current state but I'm sure if amazon game studies is fully committed, after a few major patches it'll be worth revisiting.

[@maximef1]

I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on GW2. Will you cover the launch of their new expansion in February (I think)?

[@Forty2de]

I hope so!

[@TNTspaz]

I've a new found curiosity for people's opinions on GW2 in general with the game having a new focus, new engine, and new direction for story and content. Not to mention they are finally getting better at marketing so people might realize they actually do quarterly content releases now lmao. GW2 has had a noticeable resurgence similar to FF14 but obviously to a lesser extent

[@BloomHD]

This. GW2 is criminally overlooked but it has SO many lessons to teach the MMORPG genre at large. Really hoping it gets some more attention, as I think people who bounce off New World / FFXIV with THOROUGHLY enjoy everything GW2 has to offer

[@BlindGuardianCz]

He is in ARR... FFXIV is better than NewWorld.... oof If I want similar combat I'll go play GW2. If I want similar feel I'll go for ESO. Why should I play New World then?

[@PowerfulSkeleton]

I never looked much into NW, because when I play an MMO, I want WoW/FF14 style combat rotations and gameplay systems. Souls-style dodge-rolling with latency? Yeah, not for me.

[@GameMageVideos]

Bingo. If you're gonna have an MMO with thousands of players surrounding me, I want to feel different from everyone else by more metrics than which of the four weapons I'm wielding.

[@Mesoz]

This is where I differ. I can't stand tab targeting anymore lol

[@billymays9296]

@@Mesoz it's not like you need to tab target though, at least not in WoW. For most purposes it's less efficient anyway.

[@Mesoz]

@@billymays9296 I think you misunderstand lol. I use tab targeting as a term for targeting in mmo's like wow and ffxiv. Have played to many action mmo's and just can't have fun with tab target anymore.

[@nintendiaccount5002]

@@Mesoz They dont have skill. So they need auto combat systems like ffxiv and wow. They cant even dodge roll with complaining.

[@Varichan]

i dont think amazon underestimated the pve crowd. I think they just MASSIVELY overestimated the hardcore pvp crowd, because they are continously shouting so loud, how all they would need, would be this one real good hardcore pvp game and it would be insnely popular and everyone and their mother would play it... when in reality they are just a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of players.

[@Keldiur]

Oh those loud people hate the PvP scaling in this game. The thing I will add is hardcore PvP games are a blast at the beginning. Very little lost in the beginning. Lots of players and easy to join up with guilds. Yet those all dissolve over time and if you can not keep up... you will become the fodder. Unrestricted Hardcore PvP games kill their casual player base due to the actions of about 5% of the community. They simply do not understand that and scratch their heads when they run around the world and no one is there. Even WoW suffers from this.

[@amarrgalente9395]

They haven't even tried dude... They just promised us a hardcore PvP MMO, then turned around mid production and fucked us in the ass. This trash game isn't a hardcore PvP game, it's barely even a PvP game at all. You can't say that hardcore PvP MMOs don't work if no one ever actually invest the money required to make a quality one. Have you ever seen an indie studio make an "insanely popular" theme park MMO? The thing is, I can guaran-fucking-tee you, that this PvE New world is going to die much faster than EVE online, which is still seeing tens of thousands of daily logins after 20 years. And it's made by a small studio in Iceland... Imagine what a game like EVE would be like with the budget and marketing of Amazon.

[@XinfintyX]

What are you talking about? Didn't you know this game came out as a full loot pvp games? Since then they added optional pvp, added dungeons, raids, etc. They turned around and catered to pve players. To me the it seems like a lack of direction; trying to cater to as much of an audience as they can..

[@Varichan]

@@amarrgalente9395 they decided against the hardcore pvp approach in the beta, because the feedback they got was "people don't want this." And eve has a tiny playerbase. Those are very dedicated players, but it is TINY. They had a playerpeak of about 40k accross all servers in the last 24 hours. They average about 30k players over the past week. considering how time intensive the game is, you can easily assume, that throughout most ticks, these are the same people playing, but let's be really generous, then the game has about 60k active users. Even if it was 100k, thats still nothing. And at this point, we shall also ignore, that Eve is hardcore, but not hardcore pvp. It offers more than enough to do for people, who do not care about pvp, far off from where people turn their ships into scrap metal. AND it is free to play. hardcore pvp games do not have a massappeal, they speak to a very tiny crowd of people. As the guy above you said, even the high profile ones will be flooded on release, but their casual playerbase just dies off in the matter of a few weeks, as the dedicated people just pull ahead and make the lives of the less dedicated miserable.

[@Varichan]

@@XinfintyX no. the game only just NOW came out. That other stuff was beta and the takeaway they had from beta was "the majority of the feedback we got was, that the hardcore pvp approach is not appealing to them". then they delayed the game and made these changes.

[@dontfearthestinger]

Gotta be honest here, I don't get the hype. Game looks super underwhelming and uninteresting. I'm mostly a PvE gamer too, so maybe that contributes to how insanely boring it looks.

[@broken-lv7li]

“Looks.” You have to try it before you can form an opinion, super fun game

[@scoops2]

Agree 100%, played 2 days and I'm bored. I'll come back in a year and see where it's at.

[@dreadbull5039]

As with every mmo release…check back in a year

[@sr7olsniper]

Nah some games you can play them within that year FFARR was like that. Yeah it was night and day comapared to today but there was enough there for people to enjoy. This feels worse, as in it needs a few expansions worth, worse. It took GW2 a few expansions to add mounts, I hope they dont do it so late in here. They need to tune up their group content and combat, as of now everything is a zerg fest.

[@starstreamheartlocke652]

@@sr7olsniper FF14 just reinforces the point though. ARR might have been okay on release, but original 1.0 sure as hell wasn't. ARR was not the initial release of FF14.

[@sr7olsniper]

@@starstreamheartlocke652 I am talking about ARR though. 1.0 was an abomination it, it wasnt even the same game. It would be like calling New Worlds ALpha the game. It was that night and day. I am strictly talking about ARR forwards.

[@sirundying]

@@sr7olsniper so you contradict yourself here. AAR is the exemple of a fail launch and redemption with a year or two.

[@sr7olsniper]

@@sirundying How am I contradicting myself? I am talking about what the OP said (as with any mmo release, come back in a year). 1.0 was a different game, they literally had to nuke it and make another one. There was no "come back in a year" for that one. Claiming that I was referring to 1.0 in any form is asinine.

[@VulpineDemon]

Minor complaints still have value. A lot of minor complaints add up and can end up killing an entire game. I loved Destiny 2 but little complaints quickly added up. Things like the way you navigate the menu with that console-like cursor. It gets old fast.

[@cas6382]

As someone that still plays Destiny 2 (even after its year 1 which was horrific) it took years for it to do a full 180 and even though its actually great now I only kept playing since it was one of my side games and that it's the only kind of mmo fps game with full pve/pvp. New World is an uninspired mess in market of countless competitors that do everything better so I just returned mine on steam since it felt like a waste of my time tbh

[@F0XRunner]

@@cas6382 Destiny 2 players unite. Its in the best shape its ever been imo.

[@thenaaru]

I was on the fence about getting this game but after watching this I'll definitely be leaving it for a while. Thanks for the honest review!

[@skytripa]

Same here. Glad I didn't jump on it right away.

[@Jonathandhess91]

This review seems like the typical FF fanboy response, games super fun with friends and there’s plenty to do. The story is good if you Actually follow it and don’t fly through it. Love how all the negative reviews are people that don’t play

[@theream9454]

@@Jonathandhess91 exactly, no one that is playing with friends and played it for more than a day is complaining that the game is bad. Preach’s review is very slanted because he is burned out from this genre of games. It’s so obvious, with quitting wow and ff grind…. New world isn’t perfect, but it is an amazing game for what it is and it’s only going to get better with the juggernaut of Amazon behind it.

[@wolfafe]

You are doing a mistake. Don't let others decide what you would enjoy. Preach is good guy and gave great opinion but that's how he feels, you might actually enjoy the game. I personally enjoy the game more than ff14.

[@GamingDualities]

@@Jonathandhess91 Asmongold, final fantasy and wow community preaching about New World when their game is totally outdated, lack any innovations, PVP or social updates

[@druidathanaric7582]

Seems like a beautiful game that requires a lot of polish elsewhere. Few more years it could be a contender.

[@garpten7772]

I think it’s more a different mmorpg for different folks. Tab targeters are set in their ways and new world goes back to a more old school style of mmorpg. Mashing skills just isn’t how this game works. PvP is alive and well that or I’m just lucky on my server idk.

[@sr7olsniper]

@@garpten7772 This game is giving me the OG GW2 feels. Not a lot of shit to do but still needs a few expansions under their belt to be playable. MOunts need to be a thing, the combat needs to fixed and they need to add additional things to do at end game. If not the game is going to die off in 2 months and who knows if people will come back after.

[@kovacsbenjamin7960]

@@garpten7772 pvp is alive but it's pretty broken. You put yourself in a disadvantage if you're playing a ranged build and it's just bad.

[@TheSilverwing999]

It can't be a contender because the goal of the game is completely different from final fantasy and wow. It's not even the same game. New world is completely pvp focused and no amount of "tacked on dungeons" will change that. It will never have raids or anything like that. There are no real rotations, no classes and no races. No story, no interesting quests and no rpg elements. All you will ever have is 6 buttons to press that don't really interact with each other.

[@sr7olsniper]

@@TheSilverwing999 I get you there, but I am talking about if they want to hold any longevity and traction they will have to adapt. Lets face it, the PVP is a zerg fest and that will get boring RQ for the general population. They WILL need to improve on their PVE if they want to have some staying power.

[@mauricioviggianoneto6308]

NW looks good but look like any MMO from 2000... PVE looks so basic and trashy, with 3-4 melee attacking the same mob is just horrible. dungeons are trash, and mob diversity is low, super low

[@Dragon211]

yep, will probably check back in about 2 years.

[@mauricioviggianoneto6308]

@@Dragon211 will be dead by that time, and Ashes will have come and gone as well. Companies don't know how to create a good MMOrpg anymore.

[@malta071]

WoW killer, FF killer. Please... Anyone who make MMORPG needs years to reach WoW level, just to be in the same group. It's a hype thing and it will die out in a month at most.

[@Shinnouryu]

Like most release. One month of hype "THIS IS THE BEST GAME AND I'M READY TO PUT MY LIFE IN IT". Then the hype dies down. The next month another hype that repeats the circle of "hype".

[@malta071]

@@Shinnouryu I personally said this is a Valheim killer, if that. Woodcutting in VH was fun, so was mining. There is a fuckton of levels you have to achieve to be WoW or FF killer, and I don't even play WoW!

[@Crobian]

@@malta071 hold on did you just try and say New World is a Valheim killer? Are you insane?

[@DawnAfternoon]

The only way for any MMOs to kill a big MMO is for it to release stable first, then build 10 years wroth of content, then launch a big advertising campaign. Killers never worked. Even WoW took 15 years to kill itself.

[@Crobian]

@@DawnAfternoon well New World proved that money solves everything. Biggest game of 2021 for the worst gameplay of any game in the past year. Welcome to the new meta of marketing > gameplay

[@kaffka4753]

I actually started playing FF14 because I was waiting for New World to be released, I even pre ordered it. Ngl, playing FF14 as my first MMO is such an eye opener cause I just realised what my preferance is. I hate grinding. I genuinely hate grinding. I played new world for 4 hours on launch and I almost fall asleep 4 times during the entire thing cause it just so damn repetitive. Just like Preach said, no quest variation at all. Kill, collect, go talk and repeat. And the story is just boring. Eventhough it was voice acted and have so little dialogue, I skipped everything!! like this is the same guy who read the entire ARR dialogue and thought it was amazing. (Technically it is amazing but the dialogue is so damn long winded) Maybe I was spoiled by FF14 cause I only do the MSQ for the entire 5 month of playing that game and it was not grindy at all. I mean obv it have the grindy stuff you can do, but atleast you are not forced top do it. Plus the story is just amazing and the music is out of this world. So basically I m saying that I m just a filthy casual. The aesthetic is amazing and the combat is great eventhough it is kinda buggy, but till they add more quest that actually makes me do something, I ma just gonna wait

[@TheGerrok]

Just so you know you are spoiled by FF14, it's probably the best game right now for overall quality.

[@porcu12345]

Everything except the crafting and the look of the zones in New World feels half baked.

[@tesla3695]

I legit laughed at the character creation in this game. I knew right then that this game was rushed and unfinished.

[@Haze_E1]

@@tesla3695 Bro the character models are fucking puke

[@lolwarriordps]

600 million dollars well spent

[@mooglp2373]

okay everyone always says the crafting in New World is great. What on earth does it do differently than any other MMO ever? I for the life of me do not understand and I played for like 20 hours in the beta. You open up the crafting tab and you select what to craft and you hit the big button that says: "Craft"

[@vernus6617]

Too bad you can get better or on par gear than crafted doing literally any other activity in the game in 1/10 of the time

[@DerortLightBringer]

I get tired of New World just from hearing about New World

[@highlyevolved4977]

Exacly how I felt. Feels like in this game, the grind IS the fun and it got old very quickly.. Not for me, thanks. Back to FF and endwalker hype!

[@stu.chainz]

FF is actual trash tho

[@Foreverblunted]

@@masterpain7742 lol wtf ?? I play pvp in 14 and it’s fun , and prize money ? I just work and get paid no need to play a game to make chump change

[@Prime_Logos]

Bruh I can't wait to try out that sage class.

[@MrSandvich03]

@@masterpain7742 MMOPVP players wont play real pvp games, smh

[@Beraka114]

@@masterpain7742 sorry fortnite player opinion doesn't count

[@KRonSimis]

Hairs lookin mighty crispy there Mike

[@OrbitalDeathRay]

It looks better and better every video.

[@David-yz3if]

I come to preach when I think about getting a hair transplant lol

[@Savvyslavie]

It actually looks like a cheap tupee but the important thing is he is happy

[@antvn222]

Lmao why you lying to this man? It looks bad

[@David-yz3if]

@@antvn222 well he had no hair in places where he does now How is that bad

[@tomasjonsson7141]

The only reason anyone cares about this game at all is becaus its made by amazon and its been insanly (over)hyped up by everyone. So far i seen nothing intresting with it, i stick with ff14 thank you =)

[@DumpsterBug]

i shall just keep enjoying my oldschool runescape for now.

[@Forty2de]

Runescape is a game you play because your peers played it and it was the only browser game available to you at the time. Not because it was good. It's 100% nostalgia lol, don't expect others to jump in.

[@pedropereira6888]

@@Forty2de you know you can still delete this so you can leave people enjoy things in peace and have their own opinion

[@quintonmaldonado8368]

@@Forty2de Nah, I was thinking about re subbing to rs even after playing NW.

[@vogue43]

Is NW's action combat really, really simplistic compared to BDO for example, or am I missing something?

[@kovacsbenjamin7960]

nw's "action" combat is utterly dogshit compared to BDO's combat system. Even ESO had better combat system than nw. At least in ESO you can use animation cancel. In nw you're pretty much dead in an instant as a mage against a melee character (1 escape ability in 2 ranged magic weapons meanwhile almost every melee weapon comes with a gap closer and cc)

[@PaperJedi]

No New World is leagues behind other action games that released years ago. The game is very very lack luster by all means. It doesn't do anything even close to what other games already do.

[@omegaxtrigun]

You're not missing anything. NW combat is like action combat games where you only have a few abilities, but has none of the nuance of action combat games like combos or other things that make those games' combat feel satisfying despite having few abilities. It's basically basic action combat but with the static nature of tab target abilities.

[@wideboi5179]

Yes it is simple. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to cater to more action game based players. I use the musket and it's basically like using bolt action sniper rifle in a CoD game with a couple of abilities thrown in like an Overwatch game. NW definitely doesn't have the complexity that's usually expected with MMOs.

[@PaperJedi]

@@wideboi5179 not even complexity it's just... Bare bones something that a new game designer can do it a day. It's lacking animation cancel, the jump feels like something that was added as an after thought. Grown targeting and casting is clunky.... Like it's not an aweful game but it's just not what you would expect from a game of the type... When free games can do better just makes you wonder what exactly they were going for. ESO and GW2 and Vindictus and BDO and Elyon just have better more fluid combat.

[@AdamIsUrqed]

I think they have done a decent job for a small, independent studio. I imagine people would be pretty disappointed were it a billion dollar company pulling talent from all over the globe while not having to focus on a bunch of other games. Sarcasm aside, it looks decent but there's no innovation. Once levels are capped and people still aren't PvPing, players will just go back to what they were playing before and return for periodic content updates.

[@roscobosco500]

You jest but Amazon games has their next gen airport game to contend with Microsoft flight simulator that they are focused on. Admittedly their first published try looks a lil cartoons but I already pre ordered the sequel

[@itsodysuss5305]

@@roscobosco500 what the fuck did you just type on the internet bro

[@roscobosco500]

@@itsodysuss5305 I typed what I typed

[@axl4394]

@@roscobosco500 you typed gibberish

[@billymays9296]

@@roscobosco500 "We may be a billion dollar company whose CEO is also a billionaire, but we have another project in the works so we couldn't find the time or resources to work on this other game". You do realise that Amazon is a billion dollar company right? Why are you acting as if they can't literally hire all game developers in the world to work on this without even taking a financial hit.

[@mobius4247]

Thank you for the quick release of these takes. Just started FFXIV and this confirms not to give up on ARR story for Jeff Bezos's Pirate Skyrim lol

[@Prizzadar]

ARR is not that bad and it gets better farther in the story. Start is very generic for sure. To be honest i think that compared to other mmos it is in a lot of cases still better.

[@crusaderadhh486]

the reason not to play ff14 is cuz it's weeb trash ofcourse

[@TheCooderix]

@@crusaderadhh486 FFXIV living in your head rent free again?

[@RoninOCE]

@@TheCooderix Apparently everything to come out of Japan is weeb trash these days?

[@TheCooderix]

@@RoninOCE Apparently so.

[@BergerFett]

this game has big late early 2000s MMO vibes but without the charm. It looks like an amalgamation of Star Wars Galaxies and Dark Age of Camelot with a combat system from Tera or something.

[@samclark7714]

Its nothing like DAoC, that's my biggest disappointment.

[@Crobian]

Gothic 1, released 20 years ago had a funner and more engaging action combat system than this game and that is saying something.

[@GodOfWar187]

The content updates that were leaked for the game should have been part of the release. In other words, this game wasn't ready and should have been delayed longer.

[@Rogue20XX]

Still confused why a game in 2021 with 3 active abilities on your bar is on anyone's radar?

[@Jpowers_wrx]

I like new world but to me it’s more of an mmo I can play super casually without caring too much about progression like I do in FFXIV. New world feels like a very pretty version of RuneScape

[@ember-evergarden]

MMOs aren't casual games by definition so your perspective is skewed

[@Jpowers_wrx]

@@ember-evergarden you’ve never played RuneScape if you think that lol. And FFXIV can be played pretty casually, there’s nothing super grindy about it minus the relic quest line which generally isn’t even BiS until the end of the expansion.

[@lotrcdefender]

@@Jpowers_wrx Runescape was purely casual for me. FFXIV is a mix of both tbh the dimensions the game has is fucking insane.

[@DawnAfternoon]

@@ember-evergarden GW2 is as casual MMO as it gets so...

[@nintendiaccount5002]

@@Jpowers_wrx Ffxiv is extremely grindy. The combat is repetitive.

[@cronos1521]

Summary : I just want to play ff14 rn

[@qaztim11]

New World has potential, and could be great, in 6 months to a year. Game has a cool base concept but there are so many janky and half baked ideas in the game and the lack of "true" innovation is also kind of underwhelming. There is little to no PVE variety, quests are almost always the same template, no story or lore unless you read dozens and dozens of lorebooks. The game currently feels like a mix of Albion, Runescape with a more action combat like Tera or GW2. The PvP and Region control systems are cool, but nothing innovative.

[@Keldiur]

I have yet to find an answer since most people are not at end game, but are there mechanics in place to try to stop faction stacking? End game PvP is cool, yet if the mechanics give sway to the numbers game it could kill a lot of servers.

[@qaztim11]

@@Keldiur I have no idea. I have some friends that are no-lifing the game but they are still in their mid 30s to lower 40s.

[@Crobian]

Play Naraka: Bladepoint to witness what true innovation and 10/10 action combat feels/looks like. New World would be an embrassment even by year 2000 standards lol.

[@iendedyoui]

>The game currently feels like a mix of Albion, Runescape with a more action combat like Tera or GW2. Honestly, that's what makes me like it. I just want them to do a better fucking job.

[@qaztim11]

@@iendedyoui as fan of all of those games, I agree. This game still has massive potential, but in its current state I find it lackluster, but hopefully they can keep growing and improving the game over the years.

[@larshansen8701]

Just shows that people are hungry for a new MMO that is not WoW

[@veritasabsoluta4285]

Not just that, people are hungry for a new IMMERSIVE and good MMO. WoW was the king in this aspect when it first came out which is why it grew so fucking massive quickly, people want IMMERSION but also a good game.

[@fredwin]

I can not figure out the hype behind this game for the life of me. Every single gameplay video has bored me to the point of needing to turn it off. The faction vs faction reminded me of old school DAoC, but unfortunately the combat did too. It looked like 40 people standing in a 30 foot radius casting ground effects.

[@veritasabsoluta4285]

@@fredwin What game do you like?

[@milengenov2388]

One of the reason this game is rushed and not finished. They try to grab WoW refugees as much as possible.

[@veritasabsoluta4285]

@@milengenov2388 So far the game has been the most fun MMO I've ever played in my life, and I've played pretty much every top MMO today and have been playing WoW for 15 years. That might change when I reach endgame though

[@thronimos]

I was so hype for this game during Beta but they delayed the launch and forced me to play FF and survive ARR, the boring part of FF. And i have to agree w/ most streamers...FF is a more complete and fun game.

[@gonoki888]

I still think NW can be fun, but only for the first week if not for few days.

[@MixMeister5000]

FF has been out for long time and Final fantasy games have been around forever you would hope so....

[@marinefighter]

Yeah. Thats the main reason I didn't want to play. Watching stoops, asmon, Annie, and other streamers saying that all you do is gather and craft. It doesn't have any other content yet...turned me off. Also the long que looks bad.

[@Azmodian]

He's being very polite when he says that the pve is undercooked heh

[@MrReallogs]

new world isnt a pve game, its like playing eve and expecting the pve to be anything than what it is.

[@lhenn4721]

@@MrReallogs New world isn't a PvP game either... there's only 2 PvP activities in the game, War: 50v50 that happen few times every few hours/days (and you need to be hand-picked by the war leader to enter, it's not like a queued BG) and outpost rush a 20v20 BG. That's it. That the whole PvP content of this game outside world PvP. New World is definitely not a PvP MMO anymore. It used to be. It's not. It's less a PvP MMO than WoW.

[@smokethesefools2519]

@@lhenn4721 PvP adjective GAMING short for player versus player. "when you die in a PvP battle you lose a level"

[@BigTerra92]

@@MrReallogs Then why is the PvP combat so janky. If you make a PVP-based MMO then people are going to expect clean hitboxes and hurtboxes and balanced, competitive mechanics that require skill-honing

[@waking00one]

@@MrReallogs But... eve has significant pve...

[@cas6382]

I bought New World on steam, tried the beta, returned it, then I bought it again when they added more servers since I had some old WoW friends playing it but then returned it again. I'm just so sick of wasting money on half baked online games and waiting for them to maybe be good someday. I went through this with Destiny 2 and while they did do a complete 180 I'd rather play that and FFXIV which is amazing. FFXIV's crafting and gathering also does an amazing job of being there for "the guy" that doesn't want to raid etc. but support the team with food, pots, and early gearing for a patch. They also started a thing with Shadowbringers where we help rebuild cities that were devastated in the MSQ so its server wide effort to rebuild it together by contributing. I feel like as someone that's played a lot of different mmo type games New World lacks the innovation and depth to really grab me sadly.

[@hannasaynwittgenstein-berl6931]

Every Hardcore raider have their crafter and Gatherer as their backbone or they can't start the race. 14 is the only game when i don't have raid, i either doing side quest/content or just crafting. im glad they make them more accesible from patch to patch

[@Skyblade12]

I recently got my first Shadowbringers relic. A Skybuilder’s Raising Hammer. A relic crafting tool. And how do you get it? By crafting. Ending with what is basically a boss fight version of the crafting mini game. They made a crafting boss system. It was so satisfying and felt so good once I got the hang of it.

[@cas6382]

@@hannasaynwittgenstein-berl6931 I honestly play FFXIV a lot more than anyone probably should so I do a lot of everything since i really enjoy progressing my character in so many different ways. Crafting and gathering is by miles more accessible now which is great for people starting the game that enjoy supporting the team in a non combat role (or that like making money). It was so cool seeing your server stockpile a bunch of resources before doing a simple fate that required hundreds of people working together to reach the next stage and watching the city change bit by bit. The Ishgard Restoration effort was an incredible idea to help the community work together and I'm glad it was specifically stated in a live letter than the Island Sanctuary will a more casual relaxed game mode like Harrvest Moon and not be a restoration effort so that can be kept separate. FFXIV rocks in so many different ways for so many different people and I'm glad its getting the attention it deserves!

[@cas6382]

@@Skyblade12 Yeah I love crafting and gathering in FFXIV it feels great to have all these different ways of progressing your character!

[@OboRahl]

Thanks preach, glad to hear actually objective opinion on this game

[@Stackondat]

this is the definition of subjective lol, its just his opinion.

[@Stackondat]

@Tyler Brown what

[@carbonstar9091]

I see no real core gameplay innovation here. Feels like a super grindy mediocre riff on GW2 and some others. Kind of disappointing from a trillion dollar company.

[@matsu1140]

I see Amazon treats their players just like they treat their employees.

[@xxman713]

Lmao

[@sevnsinnz6468]

Excellent video! Minor complaints do have value because they add up. What bugs me mainly is the loud criticism proponents of NW have of other games with minor issues themselves, but completely ignore every single issue that plagues NW. All I hear is how great the crafting system is and how gorgeous it looks. Zero mention of the EXTREMELY limited character creator or zero mounts or limited fast travel, in a 2021 MMO? Don't tell me it's fine when players are intentionally killing themselves just to avoid traversing the world. Combat is super basic, locked in place because limited AC. No swimming. Just basic gameplay. In 2021. Don't get me started on the dungeons and questing. They defend it all. KiraTV is amongst the worst offenders.

[@tbone8644]

People out here really huffing that copium hard

[@Replay308kw]

its meant to feel that way so they can sell you the boosts in the shop soon. Create the problem to sell the fix.

[@Xbob42]

I legit fell asleep while doing New World questing. Everything about the game seems designed to just be repetitive and time-wasting. That's never been my jam. Even if I'm in the mood to cut down trees and plant stuff and craft, I'd rather just play the Story of Seasons games on Steam rather than a slow ass MMO. I'm really not sure where the longevity for New World is supposed to come from. The PvP doesn't seem a single iota better than any other PvP game, and in fact seems worse because the combat is so basic and lopsided. I can see now that the $40 price tag and no sub wasn't an accident. They're hoping to sell you on the low price and then with no sub they can try to lure you back in 8 months when there's finally a big content update or something. Unfortunately unless they revamp the entire way you interact with the game world, I don't think I'll be coming back. Everything about it just feels like an early access survival game with a light MMO veneer thrown on top.

[@LobsterFusion]

Story of Seasons is great! I play that a lot when I’m in the mood for this type of thing with no combat.

[@francoisturgeon1176]

yeah sure buddy LOL

[@Xbob42]

@@francoisturgeon1176 Yeah sure buddy... what? That I fell asleep doing something incredible tedious, repetitive and boring? It's more likely than you think.

[@whywhy8324]

@@Xbob42 There's a lot of NW stans going around huffing copeium. If you don't say it's the best thing you've ever played, they'll hit you with shit like that.

[@ember-evergarden]

Lmao this game is trying to compete against FFXIV. Not gonna succeed. NW is doomed

[@Skyblade12]

It was doomed from the beginning. Built as. PvP focus game because then Amazon wouldn’t have to pay people to make content, but no one liked that so they shifted to PvE, leaving cobbled together systems and still not enough content.

[@matthiashornke9969]

I gotta say I was kinda worried when I didn't have a good time with the game while my friends ( at least 2 of them) really seemed to like it. It then kind of good to hear that other people feel the same way: Grinding if there is the promise of something really cool at the end? I'll do it ALL DAY LONG, but grinding for the sake of more grinding? Nahhh, I'm gonna sit this one out.

[@astrealove2247]

I've watched streams, and videos about this game. But I haven't been impressed of what I've seen of it, I can't see the appeal here.

[@Frost_Saber]

It's exactly what I expected, bland soulless half baked garbage.

[@mapache2185]

Lol this is kind of a grind…. My dude you’ve been playing WoW for years and this “grind” gets to you? ROFL

[@riibs2036]

I hope in a years time this game starts to pick up. So far I'm enjoying it. Massive potential. Considering this was supposed to be strictly PvP, it's a good game! I want to be patient with newbie Amazon Gaming.

[@lfendleygib]

I would have preferred to then have bought it in a years time once it's ready.

[@maxfischer8977]

Combat system is just awful while the combat not being smooth at all. It's like three decades away from BDO.

[@Shnazz999]

New World is definitely giving me something to do before the next expansion for FF14 comes out. I will probably end up playing both as only one requires a monthly sub.

[@ralstlin939]

Lets be honest, graphically is pretty good and gathering feels amazing.. but the rest? Questing is one of the worst I ever seen, combat is meh some games do better some do worse, bosses are a joke, no mechanics just tank and spank and little more, faction balance is a another joke, several servers with only 2 factions or even 1 faction holding all areas, the number of skills at max level is ridiculous low.

[@lolonoob8]

no mechanics? have you even done the first dungeon?

[@Keldiur]

Faction balance was always going to be a problem. They should remove the time cap to transfer to a low pop faction if that does not already exist.

[@Skyblade12]

@@Keldiur No one wants to be on a low pop faction, that’s the problem.

[@Keldiur]

@@Skyblade12 yea you are right, you would have to incentivise the crap out of it to the point where it would be stupid not to. Well, we will see what happens. I might check the game in say 3 months. Should give a good indication of what is happening by then.

[@Tijuanabill]

FFXIV Players: ...."We got him, boys!"

[@wing024]

What happens when you play an actual good mmo, even with the faults ff14 has

[@Shiny49GER]

@@wing024 The one thing which you can only "feel" indirectly in FF14 is how much polishing, optimizing and testing has been done from SE's Q&A behind the scenes. It's often underrated.

[@jet44444]

He just has to make it to Heavensward and he’ll be full on in.

[@baseballfan4877]

This game turned me off so quick. I would tune into a stream and they would be picking herbs or mining the whole time. Looked like a survival game, but mmo. Not much depth gameplay wise.. definitely not for me.

[@quixadhal]

The fact that the core systems were probably written for PvP and rapidly converted for the much larger PvE audience is important. There haven't been many PvP focused games that also featured a heavy storyline, so I'm sure the original plan was just to have quests to help slower players catch up so they could compete. That whole notion of rushing to endgame is why so many MMO's have lackluster leveling. The devs buy into the idea that nobody will care, and because so many games DO have bad leveling experiences, it become self-fulfilling. Players ASSUME it has to be bad, so they don't even try... they automatically rush to endgame.

[@ihavecrabs56]

i never understood the need for such long, arduous, painstaking leveling in mmos... do players really need more than just a few hours to test a class/weapon out and see if its their fancy?

[@evanthibodeaux7834]

@@ihavecrabs56 it doesn’t have to be painful, the leveling experience is quite long in FF14 for instance but since the story is quite interesting and the endgame content is evergreen I feel no compulsion to skip to endgame. I think people thinking leveling to endgame as a negative or unnecessary experience is mostly due to how bad it’s been in games lately. It can just as easily be really enjoyable content

[@ihavecrabs56]

@@evanthibodeaux7834 i agree that the story for ffxiv is great, but i dont believe it should be tied to leveling outside of a few hours each expansion to allow players to grow accustom to new actions and changes. xiv also has ilevel, which requires monotonous grinding as well, only to become overshadowed with each patch...

[@grampaseri]

@@ihavecrabs56 Keep in mind the last part is mmoRPG, and I feel many players of the genre appreciate being invested into their character through the gradual acquisition of power typical of RPG systems, MMO or otherwise. The speed and tolerance of this of course varies among individuals, but it would not be the same experience just generating a character and getting right into it, like say a battle royale or arena fighter. These other types of games exist to satisfy that player niche.

[@ihavecrabs56]

@@grampaseri personally, im not a fan of grinding in any game, rpg or otherwise. i always preferred horizontal progression, allowing me to flesh out my characters in any way i desire. as an mmo, i do think a middle ground can be met. an introduction that allows us to familiarize us with weapons/class/skills, then branches out so we can horizontally flesh our character out. im not saying zero vertical progression is the answer or resetting progression each instance, but i do think it should be shortened. players can then experience endgame much quicker without having to deal with "kill x amount, fetch x things". imagine how much more enjoyable story/lore content could be made if there wasnt the pressure of tying it to "kill x things, fetch x amount" quests for leveling experience.

[@inquisitorlev8456]

I had just the opposite experience, meaning that I prefer the leveling and gameplay experience in NW to FF14. I am not a fan of MMORPGs that are on rails, and FF14 is objectively that and plays like a solo player game with periodic instanced group content. A lot of people like that type of game, and that's fine. I suppose I appreciate games that lean more toward sandbox than theme park.

[@pmc1727]

Good take there is a reason why ffxiv and eve and new world can all exist in a play space. They tick different boxes for different kinds of players. Personally I prefer eve because I am an admitted bad human being. Other people like story or grinding. To each their own.

[@free29ct]

Agree with this, I could not make it past 2 hours in FF14. Invisible walls, 2 hours of dialogue before I hit a npc with an ability... that's not an MMO to me. I watch TV/Movies for cinematography and story, not MMOs. But everyone has their own options.

[@Maria_Erias]

I'm interested in NW because I love sandbox games. Conan Exiles, Mount & Blade: Warband (especially with the breadth of mods), Bannerlord, Kenshi, Rimworld, the OG Star War: Galaxies before SOE ruined it. It's also why I loved WoW Classic above and beyond BfA and Shadowlands. I love a game where you set your own goals. But I'm holding off on NW for the moment because I want to see if Amazon's going to step on it in a month or two by introducing the microtransactions they'd hinted at during beta. If that's the case, I don't want to get invested in a game that the developer is just going to ruin.

[@bbhawks9060]

I gave FF14 a chance as well and just was bored out of my gourd about 24 hours in. And this comes from someone who started with FFXI as my first MMO so the nostalgia was there... just not the rest of it. WoW will always be my fondest memories of gaming but NW has been refreshing!

[@solusgamer164]

I'm a versatile gamer, but based on this guy's review as well as the footage of the game shown, I'll have to stick to ffxiv. I like a good story mixed in with enjoyable content. This game seems like something I can do on the side just for a change.

[@shirox11]

New world to me is just pretty bland. I really just don’t see it having any staying power. It could change as the game evolves though.

[@Dyskresiac]

Wasn't New World marketed as "An MMO for people who don't like MMOs"? This sounds like the most EverQuest of an MMO since EverQuest. Some people like that but holy hell was that marketing off.

[@mikegamerguy4776]

EQ was way better than this shit. EQ, you either pay attention or you get gibbed by some big bad.

[@DarkScreamGames]

​@@mikegamerguy4776 That's what happens in New World once you get to higher levels. Lots of comments here look like people not playing the game, Just like with FF14 a couple months ago.. :)

[@Mooinator3000]

This just sorta looks like a worse GW2 or ESO

[@Crobian]

This is hands down the worst MMO I have ever played. If it wasn't for the Amazon name and marketing funding it would've maybe peaked at 10,000 sales, if that. I hope they don't recoup their costs and shut down the studio. Props to the team that made the environment, UI and audio, everybody else should never work on a game again.

[@crazyshrum]

I can see some major problems for many player in this type of game...but I personally am extremely interested in the economics and politics that "can" develop in this game.

[@Keldiur]

Usually you have to give the faction feel to the players. Unless something is implemented, I think Faction stacking is going to ruin most end game in this game.

[@crazyshrum]

@@Keldiur I didn't mention that, but I agree. There are always players that want to be the underdog. With the ability to change ever 120 days I am still hopeful.

[@Keldiur]

@@crazyshrum oh you can change? That will even it somewhat. It will force those who want a challenge... or simply someone to PvP to change. Whole guilds on some servers will change. Yet some will just sit there and dominate. Not wanting the challenge, only the rewards.

[@TheSilverwing999]

Problem with this type of game is that it's entirely player driven. As people stop playing the world will die. And what happens when one faction takes over all zones on a server eventually? People will stop playing because everything will feel pointless.

[@majones117]

Funny how before the game came out they were talking about adding boost to the game and now they just slowed down weapon XP. odd how that works.

[@VRLoft]

So they can sell boosts down the line

[@Foretelling]

They did this with several things. Nerfed experience and so on so they can sell a fix in their store.

[@maybeitsyou1317]

I mean it's amazon. Does anyone expect them to be consumer friendly? IMO they will end up worse then Blizzard with a similar attitude. Hope they prove me wrong. But they will have to prove themselves to me before I pay them money for a game. From what I can tell NW is a big waste of time. Almost every aspect of the game is designed to waste as much time as it can. Especially the way inventory management works and banks and the like. Also it's my understanding the game is meant to be a primarily pvp game at end game. From what Iv seen of the dungeons there is no real mechanics, just a bunch of buggy leashed mobs and zerg fest. That this game is as popular as it is speaks to the value of marketing and social influencers. It's certainly not popular because it's innovative or polished.

[@jakil441]

100% agree with you Preach! New World feels like a incomplete game, I hope they finish it so we can have another big name on market along with FF, ESO and WoW

[@twitchmania7614]

Sorry to break it too you but new world is already a big name regardless of what uour opinion of the game is lol. It prolly has more players the eso and wow right now

[@user-mx4np2pd3j]

I have been having a blast, most fun I have had in a while. The faction wars on my server are the most fun I have had since old alterac Valley. Its alterac on a global scale. My server is pvp central.

[@GamingDualities]

eu central?

[@user-mx4np2pd3j]

@@GamingDualities no just some random NA server that I picked cause it didn't have a que

[@Netsuko]

The farming is fun.. I've spent a lot of time just cutting trees... but you hit the nail on the head. The PvE content feels as shallow as a puddle. And no hate for the devs, but it's just not possible to add an in depth PvE system to such a massive game so shortly. Maybe with an expansion I can see this coming. But as it stands now, there's not much to do besides doing "kill 15" and "click 5" types of quests, and that gets boring quickly.

[@fycfyc1]

This game reminded me BDO is actually a pretty decent game and I went back to that 😂

[@laydbak2191]

Bdo is far better than new world imo

[@Lightdark1992]

imagine smashing 3 buttons over and over and call it interesting combat hahahahah what a trash game

[@AledMify]

Yeah Ive been really enjoying NW. I feel like ive gone past my need for raiding in MMOs as a primary endgame activity. FF14 just feels boring unless you are a raider. Each to one's own I guess.

[@nintendiaccount5002]

Ffxiv is boring. People are just mad because they invested their lives and souls into Wow and ff

[@gabrielcuratolo7162]

@@gapho5198 FF14 leveling was never exciting to me. I hate the general design of the game and the story. Bleh. While with New World, Jeeeeeeeeeez it makes me so excited ! New piece of gear ! Pvp event ! Dungeon ! It just.. Feels good honestly.

[@jet44444]

The environments look really nice and that’s where they probably put all their development time on. It feels like a game that won’t last, so it’s not worth putting time into imo.

[@Crobian]

Yeh it's the classic smoke and mirrors, graphics before gameplay to rope people in.

[@ASIRA89]

this still looks to me like a tech demo. I played a tiny indie MMO called Tale of Toast this year and what I see here really reminds me of that game. All I did was run around, grind resources, and craft items to gain XP and better gear. That's all I did. And from what i've seen so far, New World kinda gives of the same vibe to me. Tale of Toast with more realistic graphics, but in essence, I'd end up doing the same thing in both games.

[@dusk1947]

I'm enjoying it quite a bit, when I can clear the queues. But I appreciate your perspective. Saying a game "isn't for me", is often frowned upon or attacked. But usually, if such comments are constructive; it's a good way for the community to understand different types of players. For me, FF14 "isn't for me", and WoW was taken to a place where that is now true as well. I've often enjoyed ESO & GW2 considerably, and New World is so far on my list with them. What I am still waiting for is end game, I can't truly judge it until we're several months into end game and we've gotten the first content patch or two.

[@Delmania01]

Think about what you just said, and how maybe 3 years ago you'd pretty much have only WoW. It's great, we're at a point were there's actually room in the market for games like New World and FFXIV to coexist.

[@TheSilverwing999]

End game won't really change much

[@dusk1947]

@@Delmania01 Completely agree. And they both target separate priorities, with only a small amount of overlap in content type

[@codymarcom6975]

This is such a weird take. It's hard to hear someone say "ah the leveling process was pretty dull, kinda boring." then watch them go play WoW for 500 hours.

[@Mr.Sequiro]

This is a problem with new MMO's in general. There just isn't enough content diversity and length to keep players attention. MMOs now days with just how seasoned their player base is, they need years to build and diversify content. Thats why and how WoW was able to stay king for so long and its only now that others like FF14 are competing and even beating in some ways. FF is not a new game its been out for years, but its just now that people are like hey this is a good game with a lot of content. I think the same could be said about other MMOs too. Lord of the Rings online is still out there and its got a lot of content and a new expansion coming as well. Its insane how much is there to experience and its a really good nice MMO to. I'm currently subbed to FF14 and LotRO (though atm FF14 has my full attention) Elder Scrolls Online has also supposedly gotten really fleshed out and is really good. These games were laughed at when they first released cause they just couldn't compete. But now they have the content and polish behind them to shine. I'm still hoping LotRO will start getting some attention because the developers really care about making a true to Tolkien world and its really lovely to experience.

[@Hausdieb]

Another point is that the game is already figured out because of all the testing they did openly. So it's not even really a new game anymore.

[@michaelbeleut6480]

This is why I never played the game. Looks very bland.

[@sc2335]

Dude if what to play the game where people are sexually assaulted because you don’t care about their traumas only your money then just play it.

[@rumbleshakes]

I've been having a lot of fun. Reason is I'm always at 100% attention. It's not like most games where it's sometimes at 100% attention. When questing I'm always scanning the horizon for iron or hemp. Combat has a high ceiling and I'm doing so much better with dodging. The weapon skill leveling does suck. The queue times were terrible and so much so I moved from El Dorado to Camelot. It's over half the queue times and they're both "HIGH" population. The only reason why they would have mounts is if the world gets so big. Leveling is best if you pick up all Town and Faction quests and aim for only the Main quest and do quests along the way while picking up ALL iron, hemp, and leather. I also made the huge mistake of putting materials on the trading post. You need so much for crafting (especially iron, hemp, and leather). Final thoughts from me about this game is the potential is HUGE for this game. They just need to make the Main quest like SWTOR style where you speak directly and learn about the characters. Housing is decent but definitely they need to do some kind of instanced housing rather than you just having a house in a town--I want a house with a farm. Grant it I love Valheim.

[@AtomicOverdrive]

IMHO the game looks graphicly amazing.. However the combat and general gameplay sucks.. It feels like a PUBG version of an MMORPG.. Great for a first person shooter, not for a RPG game. That and the questing is boring at best.. I had preordered the game, but ended up turning around and getting a refund because I disliked it so bad.. Such as shame..

[@Ditronus.]

This is a very barebones mmo. It's multiplayer, and online, but little else.

[@UnderGroundMerlin]

Going to see how it develops over the next two years before I decide to invest time into it. I'm fine with FFXIV and ESO for now. Still have not played an MMO that made say "WOW! Now this is new a refreshing.". Most feel like WoW just some new mechanics and new skin.

[@chopper7891]

Basically, they sank every resource they could into graphics, and bare minimum into storytelling or gameplay?

[@lothar3073]

And it still looks like shit.

[@Tijuanabill]

Nearly every MMO does this, and I will never get it. They all spend big on the environment, and then throw together player skills at the last minute. Show me an MMO that released with zero content, and I will show you a beautiful game with nothing in it.

[@larshansen8701]

"New World" started out as a pure PvP MMO and PvM was a late reflection

[@ralfrudi3963]

The sound design is awesome too and crafting is pretty decent for an MMO if youlike grindy stuff but everything else is horrible yeah.

[@jcs6167]

Combat looks horrible. Why anyone would support a game from skumbag monopoly Amazon is beyond me...

[@Alvadar65]

You are absolutly right, it is a massive grind. Thing is though that is why myself and a lot of other people want to play it. Personally I think this kind of MMO is far more niche than your average MMO but expecting it to be less grindy and not having to take a lot of time to grind all the aspects of the game is probably gonna leave you disappointed, since that is the main draw for a lot of people. I play FFXIV for my cool raid experience and awesome story quests, I play New World for the heavy satisfying grind. I totally totally understand that a lot of people wouldnt be into that, and thats okay. Does not make it a bad game even though some might think that or die hard fans might think someone is saying that when its just not their kind of game. Games dont have to be for everyone, they dont have to appeal to the same target audience over and over even if they are in the same game genre, having the variety of this game and FFXIV as a fan of MMOs makes me so so happy. Again, totally get it that its not some peoples type of game, but that does not make it a bad game, just not a game for you. Also does not mean the game is perfect but for the kind of game I was wanting to get out of it it has done far more things right than I had hoped. Hope those of you who are playing are enjoying your time if you can get past the ques and those of you who didnt feel it was for you find something cool to occupy your time, just please for the love of god if it isnt for you dont start bashing it or the people who play it just because it wasnt what YOU wanted. On the same token people who are die hard fans and who love the game, if someone doesnt like it then thats OKAY, leave them be, it isnt a personal thing, they arent invalidating your experience, we dont all have to agree on everything all the time.

[@TheUnderJaker]

The game is meh. There is no real innovation here. The game is uploaded to be this PVP phenomenon and it’s not. It has a worse version of the ESO weapon system. The combat is very similar to ESO. Crafting arrows is the most useless and mundane thing in all of mmorpgs for now users, it’s an instant disadvantage. The game is nothing special at all. And is basically a slightly cleaner rip off of ESO.

[@chinaman1]

This game reminds me of those Korean MMOs from the 2000s. Very grindy and rather pointless.

[@thewal1ofsleep]

Everything about New World looks bland to me. There is no character or "charm"; at least to me. It also looks last gen; about as good as a PS4 launch title or something. Graphics aren't really the biggest deal to me, but they are for a lot of people and I really don't understand why there was any hype for this one. All the gameplay looks bog standard. Nothing new. Maybe it will have a long life and get some really nice post-release development (it is an MMORPG, after all), but I certainly won't be bothering with it.

[@jet44444]

Dead game in two months or so.

[@DualB0yZ]

Atrocious queues aside, I feel like what really put me off the game after an entire day was the levelling experience. The endless repeatable side quests was just a slog for me not to mention the underwhelming PvE. I enjoyed the skilling systems a fair bit though I must say. Edit : This comment section lmao, so much salt towards FF14 just because it clicks with preach more than New World does.

[@jong.7944]

It’s not usually my biggest concern, but wow… those graphics look dated. Like not even up to 2010 standards - they’re certainly worse than FF14’s were in 2012 and they’re even worse to my eyes than the more recent WoW expansions.

[@dualmouseman]

Uhm...

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[@Vaampe]

Why would you play for efficency? Especially in a group, you are going to run out of content in no time.

[@thebigg3416]

If im a bit younger i would love this type of game. Now that i have family, ff 14 gives me more for the little time i put in the game. The grind is no longer for me

[@waydaminute4900]

Pppopp

[@mrsolid2293]

I played 22h00 in 3 days and i found out there isn't much new happening. Same mobs, same biome, no dungeons, no pvp other than the unrewarding world pvp. Wars are impossible to join and its literally the only interesting content...

[@mrsolid2293]

OMG YES the quests are just...ew

[@ninjaman0003]

i'm surprised so many people are even buying this game. amazon (the owners) have openly said that they are going to introduce microtransactions like xp potions and flightpaths in the future. i'm not going to buy a game that will be ruined soon enough.

[@TheYuxiaodi]

There is no lack of mounts. It has been a breath of fresh air to not have all manner of mounts everywhere...

[@DarkRav3n]

New World seems like it's just Runescape if it were made in the modern day. I can definitely see the appeal for some players, but it's just not something I really care for nowadays.

[@PUPGRLPDX]

I wouldn't agree with that, since Runescape actually has content.

[@kjellannn]

I said that even in preview. And i begged them to take a look on how OSRS does quests because the once ingame were trash. Played beta still trash quests so now i have the game but no feeling of playing it :/

[@matthewpartridge8784]

@@PUPGRLPDX believe or not runescape has been out for many years and once did not have content

[@matthewpartridge8784]

@@kjellannn Please don't even say rubescapes quests are remotely good...just don't

[@GamingDualities]

then go back to outdated game like final fantasy or wow i guess. if u want good action combat game try Smite arena

[@Forty2de]

Meanwhile I'm having so much fun with D2R. One of the first and maybe last good games to come out of Blizzard. You can farm Mulgore as much as you want now. Moo.

[@SpookyFaceGaming]

This is the type of game I can go into and just chill for a few hours every now and then but it is in no way a main game for me in its current state. The pve needs work and the combat feels very old fashioned.

[@SpookyFaceGaming]

@@NickMK Oh the combat is fine considering what they're going for but to me it feels quite old and dated. It's not the saving grace for the game in my opinion at least. the crafting though, mint.

[@Varichan]

@@NickMK Valheims combat is arse tho. And the souls combat i would not particularly describe as anything new or fresh.

[@fiffer13]

How does the combat feel old fashioned? Most MMOs use tab targeting, or crude lock on mechanics, only 3 to my knowledge try this more action oriented approach and none of them are more than 10yrs old but the other styles are much older...

[@jorgetinoco3574]

What are you saying the combat feels old fashioned lmao, if anything the combat is the most modern there is

[@ralfrudi3963]

@@fiffer13 I think what he meant is that the combat feels clunky and slow, you can not do 2 things at the same time. Once you pressed a button you are animation locked until said animation is finished, just like back in the old days. You can not run and do a normal hit at the same time. Everytime you press attack your character pretty much stands still and does his attack animation. You can not jump and attack at the same time. Your character will finish his jump before attacking. All casts lock you in a 1-2 second animation. You can not use your dodge roll while doing anything (not even canceling said ability). This makes the combat feel very rough and unresponsive. Some melee weapons do a fine job at hiding this by using some decent animations and moving your character in the direction of the attack but the base problem is the same and VERY apparent when using a ranged weapon. This is something most MMOs have fixed. Their combat feels very responsive and just "new and fresh" while New Worlds combat feels like from the early 2000s when technical limitations didn`t allow for smoth, fast and responsive gameplay. It doesn`t matter that you can/have to freely point towards your enemy when the combat system as a whole doesn't allow for nearly the same amount of freedom.

[@SirDigbyChickenCaesar]

For me, New World is a place I can relax and gather. Not a care in the world, and no one is relying on me. Love this game, but it's not the same as wow.

[@D_eii]

Never was on the hype train for this game, either. Or I’m addicted to FF14

[@Skyblade12]

Or both.

[@X_Mayce]

You really should take a look at Mortal Online 2, which releases in January 2022