A Witness to the Wreckage and Rage, Talking to Alien 3 Screenwriter Rex Pickett

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Alien vs. Predator Galaxy

Alien vs. Predator Galaxy

2 жыл бұрын

We have just uploaded the 146th episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast! In this episode Aaron and Adam are joined by Rex Pickett, one of the many screenwriters subjected to the Hell of Alien 3's development.
Better known now as the author of Sideways, a novel that Alexander Payne adapted into film, and Rex himself adapted for stage, Rex Pickett’s involvement in Alien 3’s development is often boiled down to two simple comments - doing a sneaky last-minute rewrite that pissed off Walter Hill and David Giler, and a critique of their script that pissed them off.
Rex kindly joined us on the podcast to lay bare his experiences working alongside David Fincher, and in opposition to Walter Hill and David Giler, to provide us with a frank and honest first-hand account of that infamous nightmarish production.
Rex discusses how his wife, who was assistant to both Vincent Ward and David Fincher, leaked him scripts which allowed Rex to do a stealth rewrite, how David Fincher snuck Rex to the United Kingdom without the studio or producer's knowledge, the infamous memo that contributed towards his departure from the production, the fickly nature of Hollywood productions, and plenty more!
Rex's draft of Alien 3 is available to read in our Downloads section, alongside many other previous drafts of Alien 3 and the other Alien and Predator films.
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@DeanH92
@DeanH92 Жыл бұрын
I met Paul McGann (Golic) at a con yesterday, and I said I’m sorry FOX messed up Alien 3, and he said “Oh yeah they messed Fincher around, but he had the last laugh though - he’s David Fincher!” He also went onto to say he’s never seen the film, but heard about the Assembly Cut, and the chances of Fincher reclaiming it and doing his own cut were probably zero.
@nigelcarren
@nigelcarren 8 ай бұрын
If I met Paul McGann I would be the 99th person quoting Withnail and I to him that day. I love both films for their bravery, and their raised single-finger. Best wishes to you from a French forest. 😉👍🇬🇧
@steviegbcool
@steviegbcool 21 күн бұрын
He never saw the film he was in ?
@josefjakubec8935
@josefjakubec8935 2 жыл бұрын
This episode should be re - named " Hey Rex, tell us how you really feel "... An awesome work as always guys, it's fascinating to see we are still finding out a new things about this movie even 30 years after.
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
And he'll actually tell you, unlike every other "diplomat." James Cameron is not going to tell you Prometheus sucks. He's friends with Ridley. "It's not the movie I would have made." No sh*t.
@minimum2000
@minimum2000 2 жыл бұрын
I was absolutely gobsmacked by this. A holy grail of sorts. Thank you guys so much for everything. You have now peaked. There is nowhere to go unless you get Fincher, which is impossible.
@AlienvsPredatorGalaxy
@AlienvsPredatorGalaxy 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! I hope we haven't peaked! I've still got plenty more I'd love to do! Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for the kind words! (Hicks)
@ryangettig274
@ryangettig274 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlienvsPredatorGalaxy This is your best catch,boys,but like someone said in the thread you may be the guys to get Fincher,Maybe watch Manck(the movie)&begin & end your requests with really clever eloquent compliments:)That's my suggestion☄🌲☄🌲
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
Even if they got Fincher to talk about it, what could he possibly add at this point? Short of saying "Everything Rex told you is a lie, let me tell you what really happened..." And that's not going to happen, either. This is the ultimate interview. Case closed.
@WhiteBirchLeaf
@WhiteBirchLeaf 10 ай бұрын
They should get Walter Hill instead. Finally.
@devilhs_vid
@devilhs_vid 2 жыл бұрын
When he said, it was 30 years so I don't care anymore, I'll tell you everything - I knew it will be a good one.
@ryangettig274
@ryangettig274 2 жыл бұрын
In David Giler's defense,he did write one of the seminal 70's conspiracy films,The Parallax View.He encouraged me with my own script at Equinoxe-AFrench screenwriting workshop,in my Los Angeles days:)I'm sure he wasn't just about wine n' skirts.:)
@volodymyrbilyk555
@volodymyrbilyk555 4 ай бұрын
Imagine being really over something but being contractually obligated to do something with it and just not having a fuck. Can't blame folks for messing up - the game was rigged from the start
@THEremiXFACTOR
@THEremiXFACTOR Ай бұрын
Also the rewrites that were done of the original Alien (starting from O'Bannon's first script) were really good and they added some vital stuff, like the Ash character.
@42ndStreetMatthew
@42ndStreetMatthew 2 жыл бұрын
This was out-fucking-standing.
@fullgreys0n738
@fullgreys0n738 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, great insight behind the stage. Thank you for this Interview.
@OfficialAndies
@OfficialAndies 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I can imagine some coke was involved when it came to the wooden planet
@user-fs5rm7kf6y
@user-fs5rm7kf6y 2 жыл бұрын
It’s gonna be hard to top this interview
@ryangettig274
@ryangettig274 2 жыл бұрын
Way Cool Interview:)
@richardadesmond
@richardadesmond 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an eye opening interview. Thank you so much for putting this together. Much appreciated.
@artist271
@artist271 8 ай бұрын
This was one fantastic interview. Especially for all of us Alien Quadrilogy/Anthology fans.
@videovagrancy8526
@videovagrancy8526 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, the documentaries they have on those sets are amazing. Really deep and detailed. This is like an extra addition to those great documentaries. Another great in depth documentary is on the Blade Runner release. It's like 4 hours long like many of the documentaries on the Alien collections.
@THEremiXFACTOR
@THEremiXFACTOR Ай бұрын
I liked this guy as soon as he said ALIEN is by far his favourite.
@nickcarter9855
@nickcarter9855 2 жыл бұрын
Great interview and insight, really enjoyed listening to the whole discussion, another feather in the cap for the channel - great work! I would have loved to see the characters ... ala Rex! Hill and Giler clearly added significantly to the wreckage and the rage... Hollywood Hacks... Love it! Perhaps worse than ... 'Dumb assed colonists.'
@sjcprojects
@sjcprojects 8 ай бұрын
It's interesting to hear from someone who was involved in the infamous mess that was the lead up to the actual shooting - but having read his script, and the Hill/Giler draft he did a rewrite from, his is actually worse. To say that the Hill/Giler script was the worst script he's ever read is a ridiculous thing to say and really calls into question the credibility of what he says in general (the Hill/Giler draft he did rewrite of is not at all far off from the Assembly Cut version of the film). Also, it was 3 years between Alien 3 and Seven, not 5 - this guy is quite prone to exaggerating, I feel...
@rustincohlebla2194
@rustincohlebla2194 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance for timestamps in the future episodes ? Great content as always guys ;)
@ridgetop21
@ridgetop21 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Timestamps are something we've been asked about and are looking into now.
@rapha2667
@rapha2667 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic interview.
@musicman2047
@musicman2047 2 жыл бұрын
Have to admit I'm intrigued with the Wooden planet take on Alien 3, very unique, and would have been great if shot correctly - The original Jurassic Park sequel pretty much took the part where the Alien was hunting the monks in the corn fields in the original Alien 3 script, where you see the trail of the alien running through the field hunting the monks (Think top-down view shot) - Jurassic Park had the velociraptors instead running in the field where you see the trail. Shots like this would have been amazing back then, especially on a wooden planet.
@frankthecat1660
@frankthecat1660 2 жыл бұрын
I never needed to know more about the prisoners made up religion; those details were never important, nor would they have had any real impact on the story. Some things are better left ambiguous.
@jez49647
@jez49647 2 жыл бұрын
I have to admit I don't think I'd even heard of Rex before (at least not by name) but I found his forthright point of view of the drama very interesting.
@oddedges
@oddedges 7 ай бұрын
This is fantastic. I can't believe its been out for a year and I haven't seen it yet. Amazing.
@toffee20
@toffee20 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work boys
@jorgereyna1796
@jorgereyna1796 Жыл бұрын
This was fantastic
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
18:00 Dude, you're killing me here. Cameron was intentionally making a commentary about the arrogance of a superior military power being wiped out by something or someone much less sophisticated. i.e., Vietnam. And that's not even what the story is about. It's about Ripley, going from having nightmares about her previous experience and losing her daughter, to fighting the f'ing alien queen hand to hand to save her new daughter. She even learns to trust the artificial person. It's an incredible character arc, very well crafted and executed. It's not about the "violence" or the "action." There are thousands of "action" movies, there's only one Aliens. And btw, trying to replicate what Ridley Scott had done would have been a miserable failure. Taking it in a different direction, and doing it so well, without insulting the original, was genius. We'll probably never see that again. Not even from Cameron.
@jlee2383
@jlee2383 Жыл бұрын
The dude doesn't like action or violence. He admitted that. What do you expect? Different people have different likes. And I'm a huge Aliens fan! But I understand why some people love the first one more than the second.
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
@@jlee2383 You don't have to personally "like" something to recognize its artistic merits. People keep confusing personal taste and personal opinions with whether something is actually good or bad. They are two completely different things. Maybe horror is not your favorite thing, but you have to recognize Alien is objectively a masterpiece. And maybe horror/action is not your thing, but you have to recognize Aliens is a masterpiece. You can objectively discuss the quality of the writing, the acting, etc.
@jlee2383
@jlee2383 Жыл бұрын
​@@ifly-fsx Fair. However he said he only saw it back in the day and maybe he should rewatch it. I'm willing to bet he would feel differently about it if he rewatched, but I also understand why he has no interest in the franchise period after his experience on A3. We as fans love this world, but we have never personally worked on it. For him and Fincher, of course they want to vomit in their mouth whenever they see a xenomorph because the experience probably traumatized them. And honestly that might be the reason he is so blunt when he discusses his opinion on Aliens (also I really wouldn't be surprised if all the people he discusses with such disgust in this interview also told him his script wasn't as good as Aliens, etc. If that's the case maybe he is jaded on it, but that's just speculation).
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
@@jlee2383 I already praised him for finally giving us the definitive story behind "3." Or as definitive as we are ever going to get. Fincher will never talk about it, and he would definitely not talk about it like this.
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
I'm only 1/2hr in and I already want to see the "special edition" of this interview! So far, this guy is awesome, except for the part where he didn't like Aliens.
@HumanHamCube
@HumanHamCube Ай бұрын
1:01:26 "Hollywood is the only place where the CEOs don't know how their products are made" Bob Iger comes to mind immediately
@helpman42k
@helpman42k Жыл бұрын
Fascinating
@ULTRAWIDE.
@ULTRAWIDE. 2 жыл бұрын
Is Rex’s version available to read anywhere?
@joaomoth6903
@joaomoth6903 2 жыл бұрын
the available version of his script is the draft he wrote in a week. It's available on avpg in the downloads section. Look for the scripts. His completed draft never leaked.
@AlienvsPredatorGalaxy
@AlienvsPredatorGalaxy 2 жыл бұрын
www.avpgalaxy.net/files/scripts/alien-3-rex-pickett-1991-01-05.pdf here you go.
@NealeTurner
@NealeTurner 5 ай бұрын
This guy really does love himself. I've read some the dialogue of his script and its not particularly very good.
@Emulous79
@Emulous79 2 жыл бұрын
Very revealing! An intelligent guy.
@Wstarlights
@Wstarlights 11 ай бұрын
Brings a ton of light to things I don't even need to know. I, like, Alien 3. Resurrection is where I 'draw a line' but have no choice as a fan but to submit and absorb it. The 'reception' to 3 after 2 is no dif, and prob less harsh than to 2 after 1. My dad still 'only likes the first one' and to LOTS of people none of the rest are a movie at all. I like 3 for what it DID to 2, which is what 2 did to 1. They 'traumatized' the story, which creates a HUGE sense of momentum in the films and makes everything simultaneously terrorized and having to be decisive without considering themselves as characters, or their place and locale within an environment. There's norhing but death, survival, and decisivity in 'whatever the fuck this situation is..' and the promordial motion/energy of the story exhibits itself. I don't think 'a better' movie could be made without that. I'm GLAD Hicks and Newt died RIGHT AWAY. It was trauma, painful, and terrorizing. THATS ALIEN(S).
@generationselfie
@generationselfie Жыл бұрын
This guy was bitter. But wow. I believe avpg is great. The amount of great content is great. I really enjoy the in depth round table discussions around the films, more of those please.
@Surgicaldamage
@Surgicaldamage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight. Politics in businesses and fields can be ruthless, but also , a very hard learning experience. Fight Club and Se7en, will always be on my list of top movies of all time. I will be checking out "Sideways" aswell. Alien 3 is a very interesting movie. It has atmosphere , and can grow on movie viewers like it has on me. Alien, will always be the best movie ever made (IMO).
@thermonuclearcollider4418
@thermonuclearcollider4418 9 ай бұрын
Very insightful interview, although a tad too long and repetitive. That said, I've read Pickett's script (the one that is available over AVP Galaxy) and I honestly don't think it is that great. It feels like an earlier version of the "Assembly Cut" but with worse dialogue. I still have to read the Giler\Hill script it stemmed from, but the Pickett Draft has a lot of weak moments. The relationships between the various characters are better in the "Assembly Cut" and I reckon that has to do with Walter Hill taking over the writing: I have no problems in believing he is a jerk (he and his buddies treated Dan O'Bannon like shit), but if it was him who punched up the dialogue, he did a pretty good job. "Alien 3" has very interesting characters: we don't get to know all the inmates, but the ones we do get to know are pretty good. EDIT (ABOUT A MONTH LATER): I've read the Giler\Hill scripts (both the before-and-after-Pickett drafts): they are better than the one this guy wrote. When he says the script was "so bad" he's very likely concentrating on the actual writing style (his script even comes with a disclaimer saying that the style is a left-over from the previous draft), not the content, which is what really matters. His dialogues suck, some of them seem like bad fan-fiction. His ideas about improving the story\structure are risible. He can say whatever he wants about Hill and Giler, but those two were better screenwriters than he ever was. Also, his contributions were minimal: for someone who has done so little, he certainly talks A LOT.
@crazyrabbits
@crazyrabbits 5 ай бұрын
The only way we'll truly know for sure is for the full script Pickett wrote after he was officially hired to leak. I don't expect a rush rewrite, done in the span of a week, to be particularly good, regardless of the intent or well-meaning behind it. As it stands, the dialogue is way too on the nose (Ripley saying, "I'm never going to be your mother," after the chestburster comes out of her is ridiculous) While I'm sure he's a lovely man to meet in real life, Pickett comes across in this interview as someone who was screwed out of (what he believed) was a plum gig continuing to work on/be credited on a script for a name franchise -- the kind of opportunity many writers would kill for -- and decided that this was his best chance to "get his pound of flesh" while surrounded by like-minded interviewers who would also give him opportunities to plug his newest project. If there's one thing you can really point to for Pickett's handling of the situation, it was him writing a physical letter badmouthing the producers of the project (even if they were no longer involved). This is on the same project where Michael Biehn opted to give FOX/the writers flak for allegedly planning to kill him off and had his agent lobby for them to pay for his likeness on a photograph. Two rookie mistakes on a project where everyone involved should have known better, particularly given the sordid production history up to that point.
@thermonuclearcollider4418
@thermonuclearcollider4418 5 ай бұрын
@@crazyrabbits was there another draft? It seems to me that they were working on it when this guy was canned, so chances are there’s no real script. Anyhow, yes, he comes across as still sorry for how the deal went, but that’s how the film industry is and he didn’t really handle the whole thing well: again, writing on the actual script that the previous draft’s writing wasn’t good when it was written by the actual producers was a HUGE mistake. I also don’t like how he defines Fincher as a “visual stylist”: the guy is a filmmaker, for Christ’s sake, and movies are a visual medium. Of course he’s concerned with how things look: that’s the whole point. But it’s a big mistake to consider Fincher like your average shooter that only knows how to film flashy shots. Pickett comes across as the kind of guy who thinks movies should be like theater: all about the writing - which means dialog, since that’s the only thing the writer can (mostly) control. If you write “a man walks into a bar”, there’s a million way it can be filmed - even lines can be delivered in many ways, but that’s not as noticeable as something you see on the screen. Anyhow, sorry for the rant. I hate the Christmas break.
@michaelfielding6666
@michaelfielding6666 4 ай бұрын
This interview should be on the aliens 3 4k bluray if that ever happens
@91lifetime23
@91lifetime23 10 күн бұрын
Who wrote the newt and hicks funeral scene? Dillon speech etc
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
2:08:30 If you think Sigourney cared about making a good movie, watch Resurrection.
@anthonydileonardo8156
@anthonydileonardo8156 4 ай бұрын
I read Pickett's version.....the filmed version we got was like his script was paraphased with a lot less character development.....Golic was a homicidial maniac and Aaron wasn't the low IQ stooge
@uchidaoginome
@uchidaoginome 3 ай бұрын
I didn't think I'd listen to the whole thing but I did. Rex is an amazing storyteller with some amazing stories to tell! By the midway point, you know what I thought? I thought I'd like to see him create a movie about the production of Alien³! Hell, if he feels bad about dragging real people's names through the mud, he could just write a fictionalized version. Put the sensibilities of David Mamet, Adam McKay and Oliver Stone into a cauldron and stew up a smashing parody of the early nineties Hollywood production machine.
@flea1972
@flea1972 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@NeoLudditevisons
@NeoLudditevisons 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck. Theres zero chance Fincher wants anything to with A3 remaster or reedit is there!? Sigh…
@NeoLudditevisons
@NeoLudditevisons 2 жыл бұрын
Rex’s script sounds boss too!! Ugh. What could have been
@BlueMarsalis
@BlueMarsalis 2 жыл бұрын
It's a real shame.
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
He was not allowed to make the movie he wanted to make, so there's nothing to re-edit. They would have to start with a new script.
@thermonuclearcollider4418
@thermonuclearcollider4418 7 ай бұрын
@@NeoLudditevisons No, it wasn't. You can read it online. It was a poor rewrite of the Giler\Hill script. This guy is very much in love with himself.
@brycesuderow3576
@brycesuderow3576 22 күн бұрын
Is there a copy of the script that Rex created?
@BoarderEthan
@BoarderEthan 6 ай бұрын
Some of this story doesn’t add up. Especially after reading the first 30 pages of the Pickett draft from your site. Would love to see a script comparison video. Also, Pickett’s issues with the script are not the issues most fans have with Alien 3. Fans are pissed about the Hicks and Newt deaths and the magic ovomorph on the Sulaco and some wonky effects. Pickett was concerned about dialog, motivation, character depth. Etc. He’s probably spot on about the level of professionalism involved in the production process but “an unreadable script”? Brandywine said the same thing about Dan O Bannon and Ronald Shusett Alien script they made a lot of good changes. Again. Something doesn’t add up. I will say this. I agree with Rex that ALIENS is the outlier here. As time goes on, Alien 3 (Assembly) feels more and more inline with the spirit of ALIEN. And dare I say is now my number two behind the original with Aliens (Theatrical Cut) being my number 3. Where Alien 3 is flawed in its production, Aliens (special edition in particular) is flawed in its gender essentialism and oversimplified theme. Keep up the good conversations!
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
58:00 I've been saying this for 30 years. It should be obvious to everyone, but somehow it isn't. People still want to "fix" things in post.
@anthonydileonardo8156
@anthonydileonardo8156 4 ай бұрын
THE STING was also found in a slush pile
@anthonydileonardo8156
@anthonydileonardo8156 4 ай бұрын
Neil Blomkamp's take on ALIEN 5 should've been ALIEN 3
@VenusHeadTrap2
@VenusHeadTrap2 14 күн бұрын
Adam. you're Michael Keaton
@frankbizzoco1954
@frankbizzoco1954 Ай бұрын
Out of everything in Alien 3, I thought the characters were the strongest part of it. But one thing that I still can't get over is writing off Hicks and Newt. But I thoroughly enjoyed all of the English banter in the film. I enjoyed the characters otherwise. Two things I didn't like in the extended cut was the Alien was born from a dead ox, not Spike. Also the queen chestburster not making an appearance felt very anticlimactic. It's not the best Alien film, but not the worst either.
@lowneykids7888
@lowneykids7888 Жыл бұрын
Rex: "I read all 20 volumes of Carl Jung" ...... Aaron: "That sucks"
@dmen0563
@dmen0563 2 ай бұрын
This interview made me feel guilty for actually kind of liking Alien 3 😅
@IvanMtl
@IvanMtl 9 ай бұрын
This guy sounds so full of himself. He is very critical of others and it just sounds like he is still very bitter about what happened to him. Of course, we are only getting his side of the story. The fact that he disliked Aliens just shows you that he shouldn't be taken seriously when it comes to critiquing the works of others. Also, how many times does he say "You know?" If you turn it into a drinking game, you would be plastered within the first ten minutes of this interview.
@thermonuclearcollider4418
@thermonuclearcollider4418 7 ай бұрын
True. He insists that the original script "was so bad": I've read it along with his draft, and the latter was the really bad one. A hasty, partial rewrite of the Giler\Hill script with very stupid lines. He even added a disclaimer on the first page to clarify that the writing style (which is indeed uber-concise even for a screenplay) is inherited from the previous draft, essentially implying that it was badly written. Too bad that the people who hired him and were going to read his "genius rewrite" were the original script's writers. Smart move, Rex.
@isimongardner
@isimongardner Жыл бұрын
Don’t hold back Rex.
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
You're not going to find this "behind the scenes" take on any dvd!
@gckbowers411
@gckbowers411 7 ай бұрын
Read a bit of his script, and it seems like the other commenters are right. The exposition is so unnatural and blunt ("I'm Dillon and I believe in this and this and this. This is Clemens and he believes in this and this.").
@anthonydileonardo8156
@anthonydileonardo8156 4 ай бұрын
When I first I saw Alien 3, I thought the movie was depressing .....and kind of pointless
@andreymagnuss
@andreymagnuss 9 ай бұрын
The man's not very enlightened when it comes to cinema, it's language and how the narrative is built in films outside of the story and the characters as they are written in the script, so listening to him describing Fincher's contribution to the film as just being "a great visual stylist" makes me think he didn't come that far from the studio executives who hired Fincher for more or less the same reasons. He likes writing but obviously likes talking about himself more. He likes watching movies but he doesn't care for how they actually operate even though he directed two feature films. Either way, still insightful when it comes to the production of Alien 3.
@thermonuclearcollider4418
@thermonuclearcollider4418 8 ай бұрын
I agree 100%. A lot of screenwriters are like this: they don’t get that movies are primarily visual and so they dismiss someone like Fincher as a “visual stylist”. By the same reasoning, even Spielberg is nothing more than that. Also, this chap’s draft truly sucked. Seriously. It was bad. He badmouths Hill and Giler (you know, the guys who wrote “The Warriors” and “Southern Comfort”, among the other things) probably because of the super-concise style they used when writing “Alien 3”, and then his script is mostly their draft with a couple of fan fiction-level lines like Ripley holding up the chestburster’s shedded skin and shouting “This belongs to THE XENOMORPH!”. Unsurprisingly, he almost doesn’t exist in the movie industry. EDIT: I said “a lot of screenwriters”, but that’s unfair - “a lot of wannabe/small time screenwriters are like that” is better. Real screenwriters are pros.
@michaelnantell
@michaelnantell Жыл бұрын
Rex says that Aliens is a hardware movie. It is a hardware movie but it has a lot of imagination and a lot of authenticity in the design. The film also has some clunky dialog and plenty of war cliche's but the climax builds up a lot of anxiety.
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
2:07:40 Sigourney and Ripley were not in Prometheus or Covenant, but what did we get? A Ripley wannabe. A cheaper replacement. Alien and Aliens are the product of insane amounts of talent coming together. No one person can do this by themselves. Not Ridley Scott, not James Cameron, and not Sigourney Weaver. The tragedy is that the some of the people who made all of this possible in the first place, are also the people who destroyed it.
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
1:46:00 It's not just having to re-live a horrible experience, but also being limited to re-arranging the chairs on a sinking ship. It would be impossible for Fincher or any other director to take this mess and make something good out of it, just by re-editing it. A "better" version? What does that even mean? A more polished turd? It's never going to be a diamond. This already came up in this very same interview: It starts with the script. This was un-fixable from the beginning, it's un-fixable 30 years later, and it will always be un-fixable. The only way to "fix" it would be to invent a time machine and write a good script to begin with, and that will never happen, because it would have happened already. That's the first thing any time traveler would do.
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
1:33:00 NOW we're talking. Why the hell does it have to be monks or prisoners? That's just some insane idea from a coke-head. It's been 30 years. Let go, people. Cameron made a leap forward pretty much on his own (writer/director), without insulting the original. How about trying something like that? Continuing the story, taking it in different directions without repeating itself AND without disrespecting what came before? It's obviously not impossible. It just takes a bit of effort and talent.
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
1:33:30 How can you get to the end with credibility if you destroy credibility in the opening credits? Easy. You can't.
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 7 ай бұрын
It's a good thing that Alien 3 didn't destroy it's credibility in the opening credits, then? If you still upset about Hicks and Newt dying after 30 years, you need to grow up.
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx 7 ай бұрын
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 It did destroy it. But it's also still around. After every copy is tracked down and destroyed, we can talk. Fincher still hates 3 with a passion and won't talk about it. How come he didn't get over it, troll?
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 7 ай бұрын
@@ifly-fsx He hates how he was treated by the studio and that he did not get to make the movie that he wanted to make, he doesn't hate the movie itself.
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx 7 ай бұрын
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 Wrong.
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 7 ай бұрын
@@ifly-fsx I'm pretty sure Fincher has never even watched it.
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
1:34:36 There's two/three sides to that question. How can we relate to a bunch of murderers and rapists, and why should be care about them when they are so poorly written and the story make no sense. And the studio/writers don't even care about continuity. Again, if you don't have continuity, NOTHING matters, because anything and anyone can be changed and undone at any moment without any explanation whatsoever. And we already had a huge investment in Ripley, Hicks, Newt, and Bishop. And don't give me crap for caring about that. People who DON'T care about that are the problem. If a character has to die, give him/her a proper death. Plenty of characters did die in Alien and Aliens, and no one felt cheated. Are there angry mobs bitching about how Dallas died in Alien? I don't think so.
@steviegbcool
@steviegbcool 21 күн бұрын
Wish he spent less time talking about himself snd More about Alien 3
@jataviouswilliamson976
@jataviouswilliamson976 Жыл бұрын
i would I've loved to see Director Renny Harlin Version of Alien 3 About Going To The Xenomorps prime aka The Xenomorps homeworld / Homeland/Hiveworld/ The Alien planet with The King Alien Xenomorph On Xenomorps prime in Alien 3 but 20th century fox I've ruined Alien 3 and 20th century Fox I've Ruined That idea about The Xenomorps homeworld Aka The Xenomorps prime in Alien 3 with The King Alien Xenomorph On Xenomorps prime in Alien 3 😢🤦🏾‍♂️🌌
@5wheels178
@5wheels178 5 ай бұрын
This guy has MAGA energy
@frankthecat1660
@frankthecat1660 2 жыл бұрын
The characters in Alien³ were WAY MORE fleshed out than the soldiers in Aliens.
@ifly-fsx
@ifly-fsx Жыл бұрын
Put the crack pipe down, man. Do you know a lot of people who even remember their names or quote them all the time? They don't exist.
@5wheels178
@5wheels178 5 ай бұрын
yes I especially liked Bald Rapist #4
@bigwhopper6501
@bigwhopper6501 Ай бұрын
The only character that was fleshed out was Clements, he died too early
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