A Woman Among Wolves | The MeatEater Podcast

[@mrrobvincent]

What an incredible podcast… I found Diane Boyd very knowledgeable, pragmatic, and mostly calm about her views and intentions of how humans and wolves can evolve. Wolves are majestic (like so many other wild animals), we need to figure out a way to allow these animals to continue to survive, while controlling them to a degree where they are not threatening on many levels. As a big game hunter, i would like to see Wolves thrive and continue to be a part of our history / country…… Can’t wait to read her book!

[@1990westfalia]

I was working in the BWCA, Boundary Water Canoe Area, in 1976 with the Youth Conservation Corp, YCC, out of Isabella, MN. We (12 of us) were camped and working out of Hatchet Lake working on the Kekekabic Trail. One day as we paddled our canoes to work, we heard what we thought were kids playing ahead of us on the trail. After walking in about 2 miles, as we rounded a corner on the trail, we found 8 Timber Wolves pups playing on the trail. Jumping into and off the trail ahead of us, having the time of their lives. Once they saw us, the yipped and ran into the timber, never to be seen again. We all just stood there for a few moments trying to comprehend what just happened. Just one of the wonderful things that happened that summer while working in the BWCA. Skillet

[@chetmcdonald]

I'm not sure if anybody with the meat eater organization reads these comments but I have an idea for somebody who should be on your podcast. Her name is Norma Cobb and she was the last woman pioneer to sign up for the homestead act of 1862. Her and her husband settled in the Minook valley of Central Alaska near a place called Eureka. She wrote a book called Arctic Homestead and once I started reading it I could not put it down. I own some property not far away in a place called manly Hot Springs and the people in the village told me about this book. I asked them if everything in the book was true and they said absolutely. There is some real frontier stuff going on there and I think she would make a great guest for your podcast. She is definitely a central Alaska celebrity but it's too old to live at her home anymore. Please comment if you're interested in having her on because I can arrange it

[@D.o.a]

This is now 1 of my favorite podcasts she was great and so knowledgeable about wolves wow she's tremendous.

[@woodsmn8047]

in the game the hunter call of the wild there is a shitter that is mounted on a board extended over a sky high cliff next to a lookout tower in Siberia ..it requires some effort to just to step inside and look down the hole ...what a view !!

[@mattdyne]

A new hand touches the cistern!

[@woodsmn8047]

@@mattdyne wait !! ...I just realized this is not in skyrim but the hunter call of the wild its the siberia map out behind that last lookout tower way up on the mountain top

[@mattdyne]

@@woodsmn8047 out of curiosity do you play CitiesSkylines too because it appears we play the same games lol, when you said Siberia I thought you were talking about something else aha Hirschfelden all the way though.

[@mikefalle7910]

Found that last month doing a mission...hilarious 😂

[@Caliber-R]

That’s fuck up.

[@traviscarrolloutdoors9580]

She’s amazing! Great one guys!

[@bmceowen2]

Fantastic episode, thank you and thanks to Dr Boyd for her years of experiencial and educated advice for one of America's great animal success stories

[@matthiler1523]

This is the type of content and guest that got me into Meateater and I still think about her earlier episode (166 I think they said). Recommend this episode and definitely buying the book!

[@MorganMckinney-if9jd]

I love her whole vibe. She is a real one, no bullshit just speaking truth. Great show!

[@IanKeever-b7z]

Wow, Dianne is awesome. Great episode!

[@jaredjackson3219]

It is so impressive how much she lets logic guide her views rather than emotion. Especially with animal she has cared for and worked with for so long. I envy and hope that I can be that wise in my own life because that is so admirable

[@tommyrq180]

She fit right into the MeatEater clan. Everyone just talking in a relaxed way. She has so much credibility, so when she speaks you really want to listen. Speaking of listening, she also listens carefully and answers the actual question. No BS. What an interesting lady!

[@tommyrq180]

Steve is 100% correct about authors reading their own book. It is so, so much better as a listener to hear the actual author.

[@TagandAvis]

I love to hear what someone like Diane has to say. Thank you Meateater for sharing ❤

[@davidbrytowski4477]

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[@rileybohannon373]

Getting me thru Monday

[@anactivemarketcrash742]

Now that’s a good episode guys

[@jamesfoss1238]

Oregon trapper. Thank you,guys! What a wealth of knowledge.

[@kalle76ify]

Diane Boyd is such a courageous and brilliant woman, buying the book for sure , i need to know how she got there ! O.O

[@Grooveset]

These are my absolute favorite podcasts. Especially with educated and seemingly rational people like Diane Boyd. More of this!

[@justinmadair]

Bought the book because of this podcast. Can't wait to read it! She's compelling.

[@MrHf4l]

One of my favorite podcasts you’ve done!

[@robertpettit2636]

Great show your guest is very level headed on the wolf subject.

[@petersmith2461]

Thankyou Diane. So refreshing to listen to a 50/50 oversite.

[@jayfranklin14]

Who’s the outro???? It’s great! And Dr. Dianne definitely needs to do her own audio. She awesome!

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

Wondering myself. Didn't see the name in the description

[@pickhowl5137]

It's us, Pick & Howl, and thanks for the kind words!

[@charlesdagreat8590]

My first time listening to this podcast and wow. Just great.

[@peonerw]

The wolf problem on our rez (Colville) we have multiple packs on our lands and have since been allowed to hunt them year round and still can't keep up with there numbers!

[@charityhorst7002]

Teach the wolves to eat the wild horses. Solve two problems at once

[@davew2167]

Great episode.

[@zanejohnson6732]

Would love to hear this conversation on grizzly bear management

[@jessemarquez8787]

Same here, love everything you do steve and you have inspired me a lot.

[@lesdunbar6019]

Very well done and I really learned alot.

[@youngtripper4371]

There’s an outhouse off the road by a river in the uintas Utah, while my uncle was hunting he dropped his wallet in the shitter and had to use his 7-8 yr old son to hoist him down and in holding him by his ankles to retrieve the wallet 😂😂

[@The_Fowl_Line]

Wolves also killed a lady named Patricia Wyman in Haliburton, Ontario at the Haliburton Forest Wolf Centre in 2003. They suspect she tripped and fell when she had entered the centre when she wasn’t supposed to be in there. Since they supplemented the wolves food, they suspect the pack thought she was food and mauled her to death. I used to spend my childhood summers there and it was a sad time. The centre still functions today and memorialized Patricia.

[@forbiddenroot35]

Whats the song at the end of the video????

[@pickhowl5137]

It's one of our new originals "Fever", thanks for listening!

[@chrismackay8314]

great interview. she's so knowledgeable

[@lorettascheffer1785]

Raised in the 9 Mile valley. I remember when the wolves were 1st seen. I knew the Thisted Brothers who were the 1st to film them.

[@ZackaryDavid801]

If you want a real Sonoran Dog in Tucson, El Sinaloense Hot Dog Cart is the place. When I moved here from WI everyone I met said that’s the spot. Still haven’t tasted one better.. And the episode was awesome! As always.

[@ahamgham]

What’s the outro song?

[@mgb1974]

It's Phil and Clay

[@pickhowl5137]

It's one of our new original tunes "Fever". Check out our other stuff, and our new album releasing in the next couple of weeks!

[@pickhowl5137]

@@mgb1974 We'd love to pick some Ol Slew Foot with Clay sometime, but that's actually our original tune "Fever"!

[@Troy-i4l]

I live 75 miles south of Chicago in cornfield country. September 2012 predawn, a friend and I saw a wolf napping in the middle of a country road. People called us crazy, saying it was a dog or a big coyote. It was a wolf. The thing got up and sauntered off into the drying corn like we were bothering it.

[@johnflynn7754]

Fantastic content! I bought Diane’s book as soon as it was over. Middle finger analogy is perfect! She is an educated centrist who has been able to navigate the wide spectrum of opinions on how to manage wolves in the lower 48. Love the passion she has on the subject. I-40 in AZ and NM is the magical dividing line that Mexican Grey wolves shouldn’t be north of. Last thing is Micky’s Hot Dogs in Mesa AZ is as good as or better than those Tucson Sonoran Dog joints.

[@HowToGuns]

Tucsonian here!

[@HomemadeC4]

1:07:16 It’s because the tribes here in Colorado and Utah aren’t taking too kindly to having these reintroductions forced on them, so the donating tribe is listening to them not the state of Colorado.

[@zachlunow2914]

If you guys come to Arizona in January please do a meet and greet in Flagstaff

[@eugeneliller183]

Another awesome podcast

[@bent8024]

Awesome podcast

[@SB-eu3gc]

Hell yea boys.

[@JohnBQuinn-mk2vf]

This was a good one.

[@michaelgardner5981]

Ive heard that theres a pack in utah on mt. Neebo, also a couple years ago there was a facebook post about a wolf spotted by yhe coal power plant in huntington. Ive also seen articles on the state government setting up a wolf management plan.

[@SB-eu3gc]

Hearing them say “kohl-vil “ Is funny. I always thought it was “call-vil”. (Colville, Wa)

[@peonerw]

It is pronounced (call-ville) and its the Colville reservation not the town!

[@SB-eu3gc]

@@peonerw yup! I have family there!

[@peonerw]

@@SB-eu3gc on the rez or town? Im from keller

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

Huh, I think I've always said kohl-vill, referencing the town.

[@peonerw]

@@chickenfishhybrid44 been doing it wrong lol

[@TheRednose3269]

Man she really dodged Yannis' question about ballot box wildlife management.

[@grml2245]

You could tell they all thought the same. Long pause

[@natemiller448]

Maybe she knows a bit about Janis' political leanings 🤨

[@TheRednose3269]

@@natemiller448 Maybe but still an honest question that she could have answered regardless.

[@Jjsteen]

From the Netherlands here, we don’t have enough space, the wolfpack is now 35 big…

[@billwotruba9432]

We have plenty of wolves in the U.P. now and occasional sightings of cougars. Based on your guest's hypothesis of the migrating population eventually reestablishing itself in viable locations, it seems inevitable that the big cats will be here to stay in the not-so-distant future.

[@geoffreygrant6833]

As a Utah native and hunter i am suprised they have not gotten a foothold here. I would assume this is due to the large amount of cattle we have

[@devincoates9051]

My ex and I were attacked by wolves in Idaho when we were sleeping in my tent so it does happen but I've had a lot of encounters with wolves and that was the only time they've ever done anything like that

[@markdegroot1228]

Who was the outro song by???

[@pickhowl5137]

That's our tune, "Fever", thanks for listening, and check out our new album in the next couple of weeks!

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

While that's obviously a fun point to use, that there's a lot of wolves AND a lot of animals to hunt in Alaska, what else is important about that area compared to a lot of the US? Theres very few people in Alaska and a ton of habitat.

[@poboy6704]

Outro song?

[@pickhowl5137]

That's our tune, "Fever", thanks for listening, and check out our new album in the next couple of weeks!

[@mrspencerls]

I lost my Buck 110 knife in that very cedar stump outhouse about 25 years ago when it fell off my belt. I was not about to climb in after it.

[@tonylipa7413]

please clip it at 1:52 so we can share

[@portastsic]

ADHD makes reading books challenging for me. I will read her book damnit

[@tommyrq180]

It’s interesting that humans can effectively “extirpate” (kill off) wolves fairly easily, but we’ve been trying REALLY hard to “extirpate” coyotes and they have spread like wildfire. I don’t think she’s right that humans hate wolves more. She is right that coyotes reproduce like bunnies. But I think the spread of coyotes in the face of human pressure is more complicated. I think coyotes are dramatically more resilient for a whole range of reasons. She talked about poison being how we eliminated wolves in the west “because it gets everything.” But coyote poisoning, massively government supported, has simply failed to hold them down for decades if not over a century. Basically, humans and wolves; wolves lose big. Humans and coyotes, coyotes survive and thrive no matter how hard humans try. Just a thought…

[@cameronschmitter9325]

Is there a southern Michigan accent I’m unaware of?

[@woodsmn8047]

I myself heard wolves howl in Yellowstone well before the re introduction of wolves there

[@seanbennett7916]

I know in Wisconsin, especially when no hunting season, many are shot by farmers and hunters that want more deer or bear. Hunter's farmers will kos weather they are killing livestock or not.

[@seanbennett7916]

We have had wolves in WI forever

[@smeurett]

Not really-pretty much an absence from the mid 1950s to mid 1970s in WI.

[@seanbennett7916]

@@smeurett there were always some, from what I was told, I always saw them from a child. Don't see them as much anymore DNR go too hell you need to be controlled

[@Wyatt1314.]

Whoop-whooop!!! Lol

[@rubenvasquez021]

La carreta del rorro is good and BK hot dogs are better than Guero canelo I recommend both 👌🏽👌🏽

[@fromtexasbygod]

I found it annoying that Rinella kept suggesting Dr Boyd was obfuscating when she didn’t give the answer he wanted to hear. You don’t have to be very smart to figure out why wolves were wiped out in the lower 48 and why they’ll be wiped out again and again if reintroduced.

[@justincornelius743]

I believe that there is a breeding population of wolves that ranges as far south as NE Iowa along the Mississippi river. How do I know… I don’t know.

[@LRod003]

Would most national forests not work for wolves?

[@dougwalton4831]

My gramma squirrel brain connoisseur live 87 years old squirrel brains ain't going to kill you

[@portastsic]

Female Jordan Peterson. Same accent and inflections. Neat

[@Fuglsanggg]

Facts and politics are not the same. 1:08:46

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

Politics are a fact of life

[@robertpettit2636]

Don’t need or want wolves in southern wi because we aren’t allowed to keep a balance

[@tjp-re4du]

love most things MeatEater. But, I am surprised some of your guests don't walk off the show, sometimes. You headline the guest as in this lady, yet you take forever to let them speak. wooooops, my bad. You did get back to your guest pretty fast. I am old, cut me some slack, you young pup:):):)

[@mattdyne]

The guests are usually somewhat interested in the subject matter of the rest of the show though so they either don't mind or will join in the conversation anyway

[@isickdude7933]

First!!

[@Charbarrrrr]

why are there 20 people in the room... cut the fat and this would be listenable

[@davevandu2144]

REAL MEN DON'T USE FOUR LETTER WORDS, WE USE FIVE LETTER WORDS LIKE JESUS, SAVE'S, CAUSE HE LOVES YOU,

[@bensullivan2750]

To anyone who sees this following Jesus is the only way to achieve eternal life with him in heaven.

[@tlove9125]

It hurts my ears listening to you Northerners butchering the Spanish language. Guero is pronounced “Where - oh.” Do not pronounce the g. This is giving me flashbacks to your Birria episode. 🙄

[@natemiller448]

What is the closing song?

[@RP65-uk3yb]

I would buy the audio book if she would read it. The little bit she read had me wanting more. Too bad Diane is too busy.

[@pickhowl5137]

That's our tune, "Fever", thanks for listening, and check out our new album in the next couple of weeks!