A Wrestling PPV So Bad It Killed A 75 Yr Old Company?

The NWA has proud wrestling traditions founded in grappling and athletics but what happens when the style is changed? This PPV NWA Samhain was reportedly so bad that the company has lost its TV network deal with CW and now they are facing budget cuts. If this PPV had gone differently the story could be totally different. Due to one ill advised spot with James Mitchell everyone was very offended. We need to watch this show and see if it was actually all his fault or if other stuff came into play. NWA is a hardcore show which is completely different to any modern wrestling style in North America!

[@SwannyTheMike]

I once ran my own wrestling show. It was a total disaster from start to finish. The guys who were supposed to help set up the ring and the stage never showed, so me and my dad had to do all of it. We only had it about halfway up when the wrestlers I'd booked showed up later and were nice enough to help out instead of cutting and running like any sane person would seeing this mess. Then the show started and next to nobody came to watch. THEN the band I'd gotten to do a few songs during intermission decided to do their sound test in the middle of Warhorse (back when he was Jake Parnell) and Gary Jay's (still have no clue how I got those two) match. It was an all-around awful experience that wakes me up in the middle of the night to this day. 100% proof that I had NO BUSINESS in promoting pro wrestling. The best thing I can say is that I made sure everyone got their money. That shouldn't be a high bar to cross, but y'know, low-rent indie wrestling. All this is to say: I sure hope everyone got paid for this shit.

[@arvurebantra7639]

Honestly, from what I've heard, indie wrestlers get it. They'll help set up the ring, they'll help where they can, and many are just there to have a good time. It takes a lot to get into such a business. I wouldn't be so hard on yourself. That sounds more like a little bad luck, and not all your fault.

[@joxidearmageddonator882]

it might not have worked out but good on you for giving it a shot

[@wheatgrinder83]

I respect you for trying. You’re a true fan and did the right thing by making sure all the boys and girls got paid. Unfortunately, not all promotions can say the same (even very big promotions).

[@joshhale9355]

Nothing but respect for trying. And those guys probably didn’t mind helping seeing as you were doing all you could shorthanded. If anything, it’s extra working experience. But you never know if you don’t try. Don’t sweat stuff that happened that was out of your hands.

[@daisusaikoro]

Just trying is a win. Takes guts. Real guts. Respect.

[@TheChrisHype]

It’s so weird how NWA was brought back in an effort to be a good, clean product without any of the nonsense gimmicks or garbage bag wrestling only to become a company purely about nonsense gimmicks and garbage bag wresting.

[@animamaster]

It's cause Billy Corgan books the show. That's what Nick Aldis basically said

[@TheCaptainSlappy]

@@animamaster Since all wrestling has always been two carny guys fake fighting with gimmicks and using garbage bags to collect money from fish & rubes like you guys...

[@angrytheclown801]

​@@TheCaptainSlappyI hope you don't enjoy any kind of fiction, you'll find it's as fake as the wrestling you smugly deride.

[@djdarq6311]

Who said that was why it was “brought back” 😂

[@TheCaptainSlappy]

@@angrytheclown801 So you are saying I don't enjoy your fake sockpuppet account?

[@bobbybrandon584]

It's pretty clear that Jim Mitchell having booze and drugs on the show gave CW the excuse they needed to pull the plug but that the show itself was the real reason.

[@tempestteacup]

Exactly. There is not a TV executive in the world who watches that PPV and thinks 'this is what I need on my channel'. Goodness knows what Corgan, who claims to love old-school wrestling, was thinking. I get that he doesn't have access to the same level of talent as WWE (or even AEW) but...what possessed him to book this???

[@TheCaptainSlappy]

Fake. Cafe De Rene (Rene Dupree's show) had on Natalia "The Moscow Mauler" Markova of the NWA, and this was brought up during discussion because Mr. Billy wanted it known that was just a dirt sheet outright lie and fraud for publicity. NWA still has their contracts with CW, including tv.

[@nyghtmareinmi]

Jack and Coke ain't bad

[@nielgregory108]

Uhm, the deal went through. They are on CW's streaming platform. THAT was the deal all along, NOT to be on "TV".

[@FIXTREME]

​@@nielgregory108 I take it back. Everything you described sounds like the same crap that happened to CYN, leading to their demise

[@Dragonwolfworm]

To think that the NWA went from being the most prestigious wrestling companies in the world to now this.

[@hansjuker8296]

That "prestigious company" was a bunch of fat bagels who smoked cheap cigars, exploited people, and were involved in every disgusting petty crime you could think of.

[@fpshooterful]

Makes CZW look like the old NWA.

[@danmount9462]

​@@fpshooterfulJeezus. What were they blind?

[@dangerousdays2052]

Losing Dave "Pet the Sleeping Kitty" Lagana was the nail in the coffin for NWA.

[@satiricalzero]

NWA hasn't been prestigious since like 1988.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

In hindsight Anthem getting TNA instead of Billy was the right call

[@LBOneOfKindElite]

I thought the same thing, TNA Dodged a bullet

[@JoeChillton]

TNA probably would be in the same place it is now given how bad the pandemic era hurt them too as well as most.

[@cjones3710]

Thank goodness. Nwa got.ruined. demons and no tradition

[@lukewarmstanhouston9957]

​@@JoeChilltonAnthem buying TNA was the best possible outcome for TNA. TNA's name has been terribly tainted over the last 14 years. Anthem owning their own TV network is probably the only reason TNA has been on a TV network for the last 4 years now.

[@night6724]

@@lukewarmstanhouston9957yeah but nobody watches TNA on their garbage channel

[@PinkishToon]

One single show destroyed a chance for a TV deal, that's crazy 😂

[@jamespaul6315]

I doubt it was tbh, they already signed wwe so it was probably decided not to go with nwa

[@wweminehead5458]

Yep all because the sinister minister

[@roggie839]

​@@jamespaul6315They hadn't signed with WWE yet

[@SaudiGod]

Billy Corgan, he insisted that segment went ahead. Mitchell just acted it out

[@cmpunk44901]

​@@SaudiGodlol

[@TophDaGreat]

People always joke about how coked out TK is but Billy makes TK look like Ronald McDonald in comparison. Shame to because NWA Powerrr was really good in the beginning. A lot of folks in WWE and AEW were killing it over there pre covid. It has not been the same since.

[@EmperorMAR]

You're suggesting Ronald isn't coked out?

[@TophDaGreat]

@TheGOAT-hj6sl kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXzNqXmAm8ilmaM

[@VLE-Grimace]

@TheGOAT-hj6slsounds like someone needs their diaper changed and a nap

[@VLE-Grimace]

@TheGOAT-hj6sl I’m not the one with a nappy full of dump

[@fjccommish]

Never mind what Mitchell did. Everything else in this show would have made any sane network exec kill having NWA on the network. This was awful - every move, every minute.

[@JoeChillton]

This was by far the worst PPV all year i've seen. Holy fuck

[@donniemorton162]

It's horrible promotion I don't know why cw would have ever concerted them

[@hughjanus1945]

What did James Mitchell do?

[@tempestteacup]

@CapraObscura That's the thing. Wrestling exists in this weird realm where even though ppl know it's not real they react as if it is. So - outrage over Mitchell 'doing coke', where nobody thought to cancel Breaking Bad because Walter 'cooked' meth. But watching this recap, I doubt that's why TV execs passed on working with NWA; a controversial spot in an otherwise good show and it would've been fine. Problem was the rest of the show being terrible - it's what ppl who hate wrestling think wrestling is like all of the time. Also, watching this highlights the HUGE gulf in quality between talented wrestlers and...everyone else. The moves look terrible, botchy...that catastrophic combo of being both unsafe and unconvincing. They can't sell or take good bumps. And between this and current AEW, you can see how difficult booking is. No DQs, mad gimmick matches, no emotional investment...I don't know if booking is actually hard or just made to look hard when it's done badly. Or both. Either way, I can't imagine a TV station or exec in the world who would watch this PPV and think 'this. This is what we need to add to our programming'. Which is a bit of a shame - wrestling's great, but stuff like this is why anything not marked WWE gets treated like shit.

[@fjccommish]

@@hughjanus1945 Snorted coke.

[@johnny718bravo]

Billy previewed all of this and said "This is a good idea". He could have stopped or change this mess. This is all on him.

[@othertalk3313]

Instead of Smashing Pumpkins, he was Smiling Politely. 🙂

[@brandonstark1062]

​@@othertalk3313 he should have booked Cypress Hill to play during the show and had them accompanied by the London Symphony Orchestra.

[@KRose13x_x]

I’ve literally been to local Indy shows who’ve had more cohesive storytelling then NWA has had in recent years. It’s incredible how this company is still in business in 2023

[@markula_4040]

Just 200 buys? Is this the first PPV to have more people in the crowd than people watching at home?

[@thequixoticangler3364]

Probably in the post WCW era, yea. In the early ppv era, you'd see "super shows" at big arenas like Soldier Field or MSG. Those would draw huge gates of 30+k fans but would only get 20k ppv buys. This was the worst ppv I've ever seen. It looked like a big budget mud show. I was one of the 200 buyers. Was hoping this would be a turn to a TV friendly product.

[@JimJones-784]

​@@thequixoticangler3364 Wow a true fan, one of 200! How much did this PPV set you back? 😮

[@thequixoticangler3364]

@@JimJones-784 if I remember correctly it was $20. It seemed worth it at the time. It wasn't. LoL. They should've paid me to watch.

[@JimJones-784]

@@thequixoticangler3364 LOL!!! Hey, I can't blame you though, $20 is just about in the sweetspot for price. Just low enough to be worth trying it out, but also it's enough for you to feel invested and needing to watch it all haha. Did this video say it ended around 5am or something? Hahahaha. Thanks for the reply and the laugh haha, you're getting some value out of that $20!!

[@thequixoticangler3364]

@@JimJones-784 It started at midnight. Samhain is pagan Halloween. It was long and boring. The live audience got screwed. Everything happened around the 2 set cameras and away from the 709 people there.

[@FaizalKuntz]

This looks like early TNA without the good wrestlers

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

Spot on 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@animamaster]

Billy Corgan needs to stop booking his shows. He's basically doing what Vince did during WWE's wordt years. I don't know who they bring, but anyone has to be better than Corgan

[@Spermwhales93]

I love how Billy Corgan's NWA was supposed to be an old-school antidote to modern wrestling, yet gave us the most Russoriffic modern wrestling show of all time.

[@matthewpulama106]

I think this PPV, as well as Tyrus' run as NWA Champion pretty much wrecked the NWA's reputation. And it's gonna take a miracle for something to restore the NWA's reputation.

[@Ironman1o1]

Its gonna need a new owner to start. Even if Corgan completely 180s all his booking, no one likes him.

[@bigoredneck1993]

No tyrus was a awesome champion

[@henrick_the_lover]

I wonder if some of the old guys still around could bring it back, Cornette, Jarrett, Lawler the Memphis territory guys had excellent work and booking in the 70’s-80’s some of the 90’s. Make it serious and violent, personal problems make money, make it seem that the people involved truly hate each other and are going to settle it on the ring. Forget the new style go back to more mat wrestling and less flying and top rope stuff which most people can’t do well. Second rope stuff and brawling not crazy techniques which has to be co-op and it’s obvious they are working together.

[@brandenharris622]

​@@Ironman1o1Agreed The NWA needs new ownership

[@brandenharris622]

​@@henrick_the_lover That would work but Lawler is with WWE still and Jarrett is with AEW

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

Imagine losing a TV deal over a $150/night talent who's on a handshake deal.

[@elgoat3038]

A sandwich and a handshake

[@jaimeperez8486]

"Somebody say somethin' bout sandwiches" -Tommy Rich

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

@jaimeperez8486 Calm Down, Tommy! You're getting *_ALL FARRED UP!_*

[@dangerousdays2052]

Wrong. Billy is the one who came up with that spot and forced it to happen. James just did what he was paid to do.

[@Will_kid_cortez]

200 people really bought this? Those numbers seemed inflated 😂

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

Fax😂😂😂

[@mitchobrien8431]

And all of those buys were youtubers who just wanted to shit on the product

[@LilDiabloRob]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@OliviaCLTFC]

it seems marginally impressive until you know that about 150 of those were papered

[@badladyami]

Man, those first few weeks of NWA were a refreshing throwback to the territory days. This is outlaw horseshit.

[@lorgin2003]

"They decide to lightsabre a clown in the nutsack" are words I never expected to hear in that order, but..... here we are.

[@Boudica234]

I used to wonder what an "outlaw mud show" was. I think I know now.

[@skyatollah2skyharder276]

It's literally a promotion running illegally in someone else's territory. It doesn't mean "shit wrestling."

[@Boudica234]

@@skyatollah2skyharder276 I guess somebody didn't get the joke.

[@badladyami]

@@skyatollah2skyharder276 Didn't watch many of them, huh?

[@GoldenChed]

Pre-pandemic NWA Powerrr was really enjoyable. Since it’s return, dreadful

[@Delusionalpostcards]

Agree100% I watched every episode of power when it first premiered. Then the pandemic hit, the show stopped and it’s been all downhill since. Thunder Rosa was great and Nic Aldis was a great champion

[@JoeChillton]

It died a slow death and was complete when Drake and Aldis left.

[@ronfroehlich4697]

Agreed. I was actually watching wrestling again for a minute.

[@rayedmonds6108]

I was a huge NWA fan beginning with the reboot in late 2019 up until the pandemic. So much so that I actually purchased the first two ppv's after the reboot. I started watching again in early 2022 when they started posting episodes on KZbin again. Primarily for the Briscoes honestly. I enjoyed the show for the few months that I watched. This is completely unrecognizable to the NWA that I was enjoying just a year and a half ago.

[@Delusionalpostcards]

@@ronfroehlich4697 Same. Pre pandemic Power was the reason I started watching wrestling again. Now that NWA is hit garbage I’m just back to watching old territory reruns

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

Thanks for watching this PPV so we don't have to

[@JoeChillton]

This was a really pathetic show

[@StarOcean2255]

I could be wrong, but I feel like once Nick Aldis left the NWA, the fans left as well and the glue that held the promotion together.

[@tempestteacup]

Looking back a couple of years, it's actually amazing how much talent NWA had on its roster. Though that still doesn't explain this PPV. Maybe they had too much Woo! Energy?

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

This isn't the NWA by any stretch of the imagination. I went to 4 NWA cards in my youth in the 1980s. I saw The Varsity Club, The Road Warriors, Dusty Rhodes, Lex Luger, Cornette, Bigelow, DOOM, all the stars in a real arena. This NWA is NO Wrestling Allowed. Pure dumpster juice, with a hint of ass.

[@StarOcean2255]

@@MyNameIsUnavailable This ppv was not the NWA at all. I agree with that. I was talking about when it first came back when it started with Tim Storm as champion to Nick Aldis’s reign.

[@ИльяДмитриев-ц4ч]

@@tempestteacup They lost their Wooo! Wings

[@thevoid99]

when they gave the championship belt to tyrus... i was like "fuck this" and i left and will never return. i was excited for the NWA to return as i was enjoying what they were doing with nick aldis and tim storm being the top 2 guys as it had this old school feel but also did something that also felt like they were making strives for a future. then they brought in that immobile fat fuck into the company and once he became the world champ. they were done and then this.... that is now the bottom of all wrestling promotions.

[@devinhines1318]

EC3 looks like MJF in 15 years, and now I cannot unsee it xD

[@MJfp6lx]

😂 Billy Corgan accidentally booked the circus rather than the wrestlers

[@werewolfofsicily]

I would have LOVED to have seen the CW executives reactions to seeing this

[@nielgregory108]

It did nothing. They got the deal. They ARE on CW's streaming platform. THAT was the deal all along.

[@petesmart1983]

Yep and noone watches it, it's not even top 200 in cw programming​@@nielgregory108

[@mariomm9080]

they want to get WWE thats the real reason

[@ralphduke8157]

Must have went well, because they landed a deal on the CW right after this. And I'm well aware it's on the streaming app, but I'm sure it will end up on actual TV. Their Sarasota taping was a big hit.

[@thequixoticangler3364]

Front row. He left around 27 minutes in. Only guy in a suit.

[@jack7nine]

EC3's tatts look like a kid got into the electrical tape

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

I was dumbfounded when someone said those were tats. I thought they were that muscle tape stuff.

[@theluckiesteh9058]

It's BS like this that makes me truly see that the NWA genuinely hates its fans. That to me is one of the biggest cardinal sins that any wrestling product could ever commit. Billy Corgan may claim to be a wrestling fan but when I see the decisions he's made with this company, I keep thinking he's just pretending to be one.

[@Slop_Dogg]

Billy clearly always thinks he’s right, even when he’s shown to be wrong. Wrestlers seem to know it’s purely HIS show, either you accept his ideas or you leave.

[@theluckiesteh9058]

@@Slop_Dogg Honestly, I would just leave.

[@jmaxx7410]

​@@Slop_DoggHe was like that during his early success with the Smashing Pumpkins too.

[@jcags]

It's almost like Rob Zombie booked this show.

[@jamesb1988]

Except Rob Zombie proved with his movies that he understands basic story structure. But this? In spite of his rage he can't book in this day and age.

[@davidjsaul]

At least if he had we'd have gotten Sherri Moon Zombie instead of this mess 😂

[@CitroChannel]

1. I always forget how tall Billy Corgan is. 2. He should really stick to music because he is terrible at running a wrestling promotion. It's sad what NWA has become.

[@djdarq6311]

He had one good album. Gish.

[@thevoid99]

@@djdarq6311 the pumpkins had a good run of albums in their prime while i did like the zwan album. everything else has been mixed and the last album is dull. plus, billy seems to become this embarrassment while his contemporaries are doing fine. pearl jam is still around and can still sell out shows around the world. foo fighters are doing great with dave grohl being one of the coolest dudes ever. trent reznor has made a great career in doing film scores and scored a pixar film. they're doing great while corgan is just latching onto nostalgia for his band.

[@DennisMHenderson]

@@thevoid99’o cesspool, you never fail to embarrass yourself by contradicting reality

[@chadkirk150]

Something tells me the coke spot isn't why NWA lost its CW Contract. More like the entire PPV's the reason.

[@L_Train]

Aside from the coke it wasn't much different to some of the aew shows they've put on

[@chadkirk150]

@@L_Train Eh.... Not really. I doubt TK would allow Mox to do a shot glass match.

[@d.ink3d]

This wasn't even close to any AEW or TNA show, this is bottom of the barrel trash dont know what youre smoking but give me some 🤣 @@L_Train

[@L_Train]

@@chadkirk150 umm...did you see the chainsaw masscre match or the yukuza video game bicycle match?

[@ripman21]

​@@L_Trainthose were "sponsored" matches. They aren't made to be taken seriously.then again wrestling as a whole isn't supposed to be. Aside from being ridiculous, they weren't bad matches.

[@MisterB86]

Merry Christmas Mark. Yeah, this was....BAD. Sad because there's a bunch of talented wrestlers on the roster.

[@TheMC1102]

I couldn't ask for a better Christmas gift than Markyd reacting to this absolute fever dream of a PPV.

[@DonaldMeyers-v8c]

Fever dream....... perfectly said

[@Rocket_Skates]

I will say that the Head Bangers look to be in pretty good shape for guys I presume are at least 50.

[@petesmart1983]

Yep there scheduled for WWE match next year

[@MrSawyers]

Mosh is Thrasher is fatter than Eddie Kingston

[@leoborganelli]

Yeah and they're wrestling for couple of six packs and gram of blow nowadays

[@Z3PHYR11]

​@@leoborganelli🤣🤣🤣

[@richarddesilets4947]

It's hilarious that despite everything else he's done -good or bad- if anyone mentions a wizard in wrestling, Kevin Nash immediately comes to mind

[@josephD32]

Being a part of the, um, 'previous' iteration of the NWA... is this any better than what we were doing? Like, I know some of our stuff could be pretty bad, but damn. When Powerrr first started, I loved what they were doing. It was SO much better than what we could afford to do and it was different in that it had that old school feel with new school talent. This felt like a compilation of some of our era's worst stuff, but the only defense I have is that, we were freeking BROKE, lol.

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

The "previous" iteration of the NWA was called the ... NWA. You know... DOOM, The Steiners, The Horsemen, BabyDoll, Magnum TA, Manny Fernandez, Jimmy Garvin and Precious, LazerTron, The Barbarian... the guys I saw when I was an adolescent. Anything AFTER 1991 was WCW and the NWA name was bastardized (even as NWA TNA) But "NWA" 2023 and forward isnt the NWA. Sorry, it just isn't. It never will be again.

[@josephD32]

@@MyNameIsUnavailable I get your viewpoint.

[@dangerousdays2052]

@@MyNameIsUnavailable Pre Hogan WCW was gold.

[@Jahy-Chan]

Guranteed the network didn't care about the cocaine spot. They saw what Billy thought wrestling looked like. Billy pays these wrestlers in alcohol and drugs. WTF happened.

[@ripman21]

Yet the CW still has Women of Wrestling

[@dangerousdays2052]

I wish my boss paid me in drugs and alcohol. 😏😏

[@WalkBesideMe]

Barely over 200 PPV buys. With a PPV price tag in America of $24.99 and I would wager.... over 200 people in attendance, that's roughly $5600+. Which doesn't even cover the Matt Cardona appearance 😭

[@BrianBarrettWilson]

If one positive thing can be said about this show, it's that Tony Khan can rest assured he is not the worst booker in wrestling.

[@Slop_Dogg]

Khan has a lot of flaws, but he’s willing to at least listen to the workers. Corgan is just using NWA like his own personal playset, where only his opinion matters.

[@aarnethn]

Bro even Scott D'Amore is wayyyyy better booker than Corgan😂

[@eastsidereviews727]

Salute for checking this shit out. Somebody get Camille out of that company and into NXT or TNA!!

[@TheMaskedheel]

They will never have her. She is so wooden and a poor wrestler.

[@CallMeCrazyCallMePoor]

Yeah, she gave her notice.

[@alin81-82]

Kenzie, too.

[@henrygvidonas9573]

Man, that HGH/insulin gut on EC3... Boyo is saying his prayers and eating his vitamins. He looks as if his swollen intestines are going to explode all over the entire venue if somebody bodyslams him. Willie Corgi makes Tiny Khan't look like a half-decent booker. That was bloody awful! Nick Aldis got out at just the right time. Good for him.

[@staind956]

HGH gut badddd bro

[@jeffkotuby]

Dude, everyone on this show over the age of 30 had a 'roid gut. It was flat-out gross. At least give us someone with a natural gut built on beer and hot dogs for once.

[@TheForeverRanger]

@@jeffkotuby That's what Murdoch was on the card for.

[@GregPYatesJr]

You know this show was SO bad, MarkyD can't even bring himself to re-watch his own video before the final render to cut out any audio retakes in his script. I heard a few lines repeated lol 😂

[@gabaghoul6759]

This makes CZW look like high culture art.

[@TheCamSays]

Bit of local lore for this one. Marky likes the venue, it’s one of the older venues in the city “TempleLive” as it’s called. Cleveland has a local indie promotion that’s been running there in the past few months. Cardona’s on this show and he and Steph De Lander did appearances for them this year. “Burning Lake Brawl”, the lore of Cleveland is that its river (the Cuyahoga River) ended up catching fire on several occasions.

[@tylerwhaley992]

The passion of the guy reviewing this awful shit is pure amazement, never misses a beat and is always on point. Good stuff

[@patrickduke226]

And I thought Vince McMahon only gave us the shittiest creative. This is right up there 😮

[@djdarq6311]

Best

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

EC3 HAS THE WORST *"LITTLE MAN WANNA BE COOL"* TATTOOS I'VE EVER SEEN.

[@JoeChillton]

Thank you, it's appealing how bad they are.

[@allanshawa7489]

I thought I was the only one who thought they look horrible.

[@anthonyteague1067]

More like appalling. ​@Joecbg100

[@tempestteacup]

This video makes me think the Mitchell Spot of Infamy was just the most obvious justification for killing any TV rights deal that may have been under consideration. If the rest of the show were different, it would've been ignored, but watching this recap...this PPV is what everyone who hates, mocks and belittles wrestling thinks wrestling is. And I'm confused - isn't Billy C's entire gimmick that he loves old-school rasslin - that he fell in love watching Superstar Billy Graham, Dusty, Steamboat and Flair? If so, wtf is he doing booking...whatever this is?

[@badladyami]

It's like he sampled the worst elements of Impact, ECW, CZW, and Memphis and threw it all into a blender, chopped it into lines, and handed it to JAmes Mitchell.

[@tempestteacup]

@@badladyami I'd like to think even Mitchell knows better, though he probably doesn't give a shit. Also - why the fuck didn't they put some padding down on the floor if they were going to do so much shit outside the ring? If you're 'big' spot consists of suplexing someone onto the bare floor of a PPV watched by 200 people while "Father" "James" "Mitchell" snorts baby formula...Oh Billy.

[@HARAMBEAKAGEORGEFLOYD]

MOCKS

[@Hellaluyeah]

Watching this my already high respect for Magnus has risen even higher. How did he carry this promotion?

[@dangerousdays2052]

They had a lot of other good talent at the time too like Eli Drake, Thunder Rosa, Ricky Starks and Zicky Dice.

[@YouTubeViolates1A]

God man, this is awful. Thanks for covering this atrocity.

[@ravendarklawgaming197]

Corgan must have been tripping balls when he came up with this mental diarrhea. On a side note, props to the AEW cameramen, they understand their assignment every single time. Real men of culture. 😉

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

Nick Aldis *_WISHES_* he were back in the NWA. THEY SHOWED HIM, HUH? 🤪

[@fusionkamehameha4616]

One of the security guards thinks he's Solo Sikoa. 🤣🤣 I love those random references.

[@shawnconway6009]

The thing that keeps coming into my mind is... who is this for? Like, did he get involved with TNA and Jeff Jarrett and then just somehow couldn't get out of it? Who is this product for? What kinds of people are they trying to aim for? Because I cannot tell who their target audience is. Is it just a vanity project for Corgan? I mean, he made Tyrus champion. But it's clear that the only people participating in this show have nowhere else to go. And that sucks with some of them. But I do not know what they're all doing here. Like, if it's trying to be old NWA, it's too gimmicked, if it's trying to be ECW-lite, it's not trashy enough, if it wants to be generic indie, there are other promotions. Forget trying to be a 3rd promotion, this couldn't compete with Chikara or PWG or Dragon Gate, and even if you hate those, you know what they want to do! I have no idea what Corgan was hoping to achieve here.

[@killergrooves2438]

ECW was filled with actual talent. Taz, Sabu, Dreamer, Raven, I guess Sandman, RVD, the Dudleys, Jerry Lynn, Justin Credible, Lance Storm, Shane Douglas, Mike Awesome. Even the later era ECW before it shut down was full of guys that could put on an entertaining match and knew how to wrestle. I think that Billy Corgan is bad at booking and bad at spotting talent. And I also think that Tony Kahn snatching up a ton of talent and not using them is hurting other promotions. I’m sure it’s good for the wrestlers who get to collect a fat paycheck sitting at home, though. If only we could all be so lucky.

[@poorlydrawnstickfigure.6916]

This show is the most Russo thing I've seen in a while and he's not even involved

[@chriskarabatsos]

I wouldn’t be surprised if he was secretly

[@silentbob3208]

My interest for the NWA completely died over the last year. I used to be a weekly viewer at the beginning.

[@syko304]

Sadly, I must admit to the same. 😫

[@rayedmonds6108]

What happened?! As I mentioned in a previous comment here, I began watching every week starting in early 2022 when they started posting on KZbin again. I enjoyed it but lost track of it that summer. This is completely unrecognizable to the show I was enjoying 18 months ago.

[@889654]

If it was actual liquor they were drinking the tag match, what was Pumpkinhead Corgan thinking?

[@amason8479]

probley wondering if he bought enough for everybody

[@Smokey1419]

Truly the Jack Perry of NWA

[@LonerWithBoner03]

REAL COKE, GO CRY ME A RIVA

[@dangerousdays2052]

Jack Perry is a legend for trolling CM Karen into getting himself fired with just one sentence and making all the CM Simps cry. 😭😭

[@colin6603]

EC3 is such a weird looking dude

[@DennisWesley-sw6bp]

the coke segment was the least offensive thing about that show

[@DonaldMeyers-v8c]

I only heard of the james Mitchell spot. After watching this im speachless. Was everyone on drugs when booking this? Holy shit this was terrible.

[@kaylemain2006]

I've seen people emulating gimmicks before but the macho man/elizabeth copycats must be some sort of joke, or outright theft wth.

[@worm5559]

"Troop is a scary looking guy." While Troop lunges at guy in audience who did flinch at all 🤣

[@AwkwardLoser]

5 minutes in & something about this feels like what I imagined Control Your Narrative was like but even sadder.

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

That's the feeling I couldn't describe but DAMMIT THAT'S IT

[@jamestakacs]

Somewhere Jim Crockett, Gordon Solie, The American Dream Dusty Rhodes, The Road Warriors and Harley Race are crying about this mess

[@jamesb1988]

Hell, Jim Herd, George Scott, Vince Russo & Ed Ferrara wouldn't have been able to do something this bad.

[@InwardSeaward]

I’ve never heard of this PPV or the “incident” around this so I’m pretty excited. NWA is so grim I only know of modern NWA because Tyrus was always promoting it on FoxNews which is always on in county jail.

[@L_Train]

Ugh, jail isn't enough punishment, they have to show fox news too? That's torture.

[@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090]

@@L_TrainNews in general is Torture buddy. It either tells me something that makes me sad, pissed, or something I don’t care about, But don’t worry they’ll always tell ya somethin’ good like a fuckin Celebrities birthday or some shit…

[@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090]

I neither knew Tyrus was still around or that NWA did PPV’s

[@InwardSeaward]

@@L_Trainwell this was like 2 years ago the last time I was in county they switched to NewsMax

[@retrokoh]

Nonstop Fox News and Tyrus? Yeah... that's enough motivation to keep me out of jail

[@SteveElOtaku]

You know, for most wrestlers this would be a low point in their careers, but for the Headbangers, this is more dignified than most things they were doing nearly 30 years ago.

[@FIXTREME]

Calling that charter school gymnasium an arena is being wayyyyy too generous 😂

[@HJDSimon]

"He's a luchador, slash gimp" 😂😂😂 never thought I'd hear that sentence, amazing

[@l0STstylebender]

Give that man the world title This gimmick is box office

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

ICP arent the only middle aged clowns on this show.

[@landismithCOJ]

I'd watch it just for Father James Mitchell. Merry Christmas, everyone 🎅

[@Slop_Dogg]

the lighting is completely baffling, it’s like the entire show was recorded in shadows. they really thought this was going to be on broadcast television? seriously?

[@heisensperg9264]

Imagine the likes of Ric Flair, Harley Race, Jack Brisco or Dory Funk jr watching this bs

[@Ohionortheast]

This is embarrassing the ppl made no sense NWA is supposed to be old school wrestling not a circus

[@night6724]

TBF wrestling was a circus attraction except you know actually fun

[@immersion726]

That's an insult to circuses

[@smoothpoon86]

I thought music was the only thing Billy Corgan could ruin

[@kevin2400]

Homer simpson..... smiling politely

[@EliotBarrass]

Wow! This makes me sad. I use to watch NWA when it first came back and Aldis was champ. It was a fun 45 minutes. Now there’s just nothing there

[@therealPayne]

"They decide to lightsaber a clown in the nutsack." It's classic lines like this that make everything what actually happens on this PPV a thousand times funnier.

[@L_Train]

Corgan is starting to look like Terry Bradshaw lol. I haven't seen Billy in a while and was cracking up at him.

[@scottfitzgerald5309]

EC3 looking like a pot noodle 😂

[@Chalk0073]

and people say AEW is unfocused...

[@hiimawasteoftime8678]

Wasn't this the same company where Ric Flair made his career. So fucking sad

[@lurchorum]

This promotion is straight GARBAGE. Just gets worse and worse.

[@pureo_nikku]

Gotta love how the chair says "CTE" on it 🤦🏻‍♂

[@badladyami]

The sheer tone deafness of these outlaw buffoons is staggering.

[@roninwaveman]

NWA deserved to lose that tv deal. This was a complete dumpster fire. NWA hasn't been good for a while and all Billy Corgan is doing is hammering nails into the coffin.

[@manfredvonrichthofen4167]

It feels so Indy. The only thing that could have made it worse, was if they booked Joey Ryan

[@frankE91210]

EC3 and CARDONA banging growth hormone and insulin together or whaaaat wut the huge torso gut and string arms and legs.. STEINER would be PISSED.

[@KelseysLane]

The only thing sadder than a NWA show in Cleveland, Ohio is an NWA show in Dayton.

[@kennygwalk5328]

Akron would be depressing. Imagine seeing Cyraxx in the crowd enjoying himself

[@badladyami]

What fucking building would host it, though? Hara's gone, they'd never land Nutter, and the only other building that holds more than 4,000 is at a high school that would NEVER let this crap in their building (Fairmont's Trent Arena). I mean, Hobart in Troy might just be happy for a rent check, but is this worth it?

[@VyceryonNet]

WHY DOES EVERYONE MISPRONOUNCE SAMHAIN? Jesus, it’s not pronounced as spelled, it’s pronounced SOH-WIN, or Sow-Win.

[@DisastrousIntentionally]

I can assure you without a shadow of a doubt, not a single person on the planet cares.

[@VyceryonNet]

@@DisastrousIntentionally I can assume you without a shadow of doubt, at least 5 people in this videos comment section care, and having watched several reviews for Halloween 2, 3 & 6, MANY care, at least care enough to like in this comment & the reviews comment, say in those reviews, make this comment & oh yeah, LEAVE A STUPID @SS reply to a comment I made, like the one I'm replying to rn. 🙄😂 #BiteMeBitch

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

Ah. It's "not pronounced as spelled" but it's _the people_ who are the problem and not the word being misspelled.

[@GleeChan]

You'd think for your first show that's meant to introduce your roster/company to a wider audience, they'd keep it simple so we can get to know how things work here. Instead this is just backyard chaos.

[@thatguyfromak5190]

I mean this wasn't their first show but being their first PPV after the CW news broke it pretty much was for a lot of people. What's weird is that this isn't like any other new NWA show I can recall. They usually aim for old school feeling studio wrestling, not... whatever you want to call this.

[@planetschlock]

Was EC3 always a massive bell-end or did something happen during his last ill-fated run in the WWE that destroyed him mentally?

[@DonaldMeyers-v8c]

He had a few concussions. I know that much

[@planetschlock]

​@@DonaldMeyers-v8c According to wikipedia he had a concussion in NXT and another when he was on the main roster. That...explains a lot.

[@DonaldMeyers-v8c]

@@planetschlock I remember he was on the shelf for a long long while when he was on the main roster after that one......I'm sure he had a few in impact as well. They did some pretty crazy stuff there

[@petesmart1983]

He always been a bit of a prick, despite being good wrestler and promos was hugely popular in nxt alongside Daniel Bryan. But concussion and a huge of Roids probably changed him

[@night6724]

@@petesmart1983didn’t he get accused of sexual harassment?

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

I respect lady wrestlers, and try not to focus on their looks. That said, the ladies in that tag team match were absolutely gorgeous. They took it serious for what they could do. But they were gorgeous.

[@sird2333]

I respect hot lady wrestlers for being hot

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

@@sird2333 TRU DATT

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

It's a lot easier to forgive a bad wrestler on a small show if you can tell they still take what they're doing seriously. Being sloppy due to a lack of experience is much more forgivable than being sloppy because you don't give a shit. I agree they were all good looking too. Given that they've got the looks if they stick with wrestling and get better they could probably become stars.

[@Crash88]

No wonder why Velvet Sky left, why is Tim Storm sticking around and when did they make Camilla into a valet? She was the best female wrestler they had, even better than many of the guys.

[@petesmart1983]

Tim storm been there forever even before the reboot doubt he leave

[@tux789]

God, it really is like early tna, some of these matches look great but they're surrounded by bs that kills their momentum

[@petesmart1983]

Early TNA was far ahead

[@TheNotoriousJP]

If I knew no better, I’d swear this was some bullshit Vince Russo put together. Then again, that’s been NWA since returning from the pandemic. Shame because prior, they were kicking ass.

[@tonyjones1560]

I started watching wrestling around the time Terry Funk (RIP) was NWA champion. It’s sad to see this storied wrestling brand so thoroughly trashed.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

Thank you for saying "brand" instead of "company". People don't seem to understand that the territorial promotions were the companies and the NWA was only the name of their cartel (for lack of a better word).

[@CallMeCrazyCallMePoor]

For whatever reason, I thought Colby Corino signed a developmental deal with the Fed and I was really happy for him, since he's turned into a diamond in the rough prospect. Check out the match he had with his dad. Now it looks like Colby, a few other promising workers, and some veterans are trying to shine through some dead on arrival ideas. I shouldn't be happy about WWE cutting off another promotion, but I'd rather have NXT on the CW then see this comedy stipulation, boss is the real main character booking make a comeback.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

That's a fair point about the CW but NXT has been really good lately and probably has been WWE's most consistently enjoyable product for the past decade. I know it's WWE show but as long as they try to make NXT feel different from the main roster shows I'm okay with it.

[@happyChappy96621]

Corgan is a fucking mark. All he cared about was getting his wedding on TV.

[@mcgannahanskyjellyfetti6854]

Please cover the entire existence of the WCW Light Heavyweight Title from 1991-1992 in the future...

[@WingsofHistory]

Ec3s tattoos look like muscle tape lol

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

They are BEYOND GOD AWFUL

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

Wait. That's not muscle tape? WTF is wrong with him?

[@seantaft3853]

15:43 I think a lot of the people there should have been mad that they wasted good powder gimmick that could have been saved for the after-show party.