A1990 Macbook Pro dead after update: how to repair T2 failure on 820-01041

[@AC3handle]

At the very end of this vid, Louis looks like a proud father who just watched his kid surpass himself, and is happy enough they almost cry. that's the "I have arrived' look.

[@Watchyn_Yarwood]

This guy is not one in a million, he's one in ten million!!

[@drCox12]

"I've gotten to this point of success of my company where I can hire people smarter than me to just figure things out." The mindeset of a reputable entrepreneur...

[@f16pilotjumper]

This is you you put together an A-Team

[@marttiinnanen4911]

Ask the worker what Kurwa means next time before putting it on the screen :D

[@muaries12]

Win10: breaks itself whith updates. Force user to reinstall Apple: bricks the laptop with failed update

[@Blitterbug]

Windows: Usually software fixable. Apple: Not so much... depends which way the wind's blowing that day.

[@LambertZero]

@@Blitterbug you fuck up UEFI on a PC, worst case you take off one SO-8 chip, put it into a usb-programmer, flash it and put it back. You fuck up EFI on a mac, you're well fucked.

[@zeroskill990]

@@LambertZero not really. Search NorthridgeFix MacBook EFI lock

[@imfloridano5448]

Im still runnin win8 and the updates are screwin up many programs i have purchased. I refused ta upgrade we win was given da so called free upgrade. Now they intentionally degrade win8 ta force me ta upgrade lucky i have a os disk

[@nap8187]

@@imfloridano5448 get to 8.1 at least geez

[@SOJACjac]

I've said this before, but you should have a shirt that says ppbus

[@peterfitzpatrick7032]

Pee Pee Bus ... 😌

[@sourekpetr]

Pee Pee Bus G3 HOT :D

[@DFluent]

@@sourekpetr pee pee bus underscore G3 Hot

[@samiraperi467]

Hmm, peepee bus. Bangbus? 🤔

[@sourekpetr]

@@samiraperi467 Wrong server dude :-D

[@archelonprime]

It has been speculated that the T2 chip was made to defeat Hackintoshes. Looks to me like the T2 is another point of failure in more ways than one!

[@midi-sama]

It's in no way going to kill hackintoshes since it also carries smc messages, so basically like an smc emulator hardware mode with extra stuff.

[@electricsnut]

T2 was made to provide hardware level security to storage, keyboard, microphone, camera etc

[@SGCSmith]

I see Louis used a fix I messaged on stream live chat AND e-mailed him about a few months ago :-). Louis didn't believe me Dx. I've been having to re-flash the T2 chips on many machines to revive them after failed software updates, and to make Command + Option + R actually work right and install Catalina on a machine that came with Mojave or High Sierra out of the box. What a pain. About 95% of my cases have not involved losing data on the machine. The rest rendered the machine needing an OS re-install. Louis, for the DFU restore, once the Mac begins showing the Apple logo with the loading bar, then reboots and shows a loading bar with time remaining, you can unplug the USB/Thunderbolt cable. The machine does not need to be tethered to complete the pending OS update. Apple Configuration 2 doesn't get signaled that the T2 chip has actually rebooted with the LATEST firmware, and thus times out. Also... the charging cable the Mac comes with works fine as the DFU process runs over USB 2.0. You don't need to buy another cable. If Apple were smart, they would make the T2 chip be capable of re-flashing itself through Internet Recovery. So their machines don't brick like this. Or you know... do what everyone else does and have a read-only backup boot partition for booting off of in emergencies.

[@ΝίκοςΒουγογιαννόπουλος]

Hello, i would like to ask you some more info about this problem. Is it possible to contact you and talk?

[@mitjats]

I’m too interested to understand much more on the topic.

[@SGCSmith]

@@ΝίκοςΒουγογιαννόπουλος I know very little about why it happens. Other than it being caused by OS updates. Apple doesn't seem to have built in enough redundancy into the T2 chip to keep the issue from happening. I mean. Most modern BIOS have backup boot blocks in case of a bad flash.

[@dennis_johnson]

I'm in a similar situation with a bricked a1989. Tried to re-flash with Configurator2, but the dead MacBook is not recognised on the tool. The host MacBook (mid-2012) is running Catalina 10.15.7, so I'm not sure if there is a compatibility issue with that.

[@SGCSmith]

@@dennis_johnson In theory the DFU mode should work regardless of what is on the SSD, as the code for that lives in the ROM inside the T2. In some cases I've had Macs go brain dead and fail to turn on even after performing an SMC reset. Just like this even. If you have the tools to open the Mac and disconnect the battery for a few minutes, do that and then see if you can enter DFU mode. Or if the machine turns on normally afterwards. But yeah, new year, newly released OS, once again the bricked T2 chips show up.

[@2S2F1]

Louis was about to cry at the end. Wow.

[@philhunt9297]

He's a proud man. Truly understands he isn't built to perfection and is honourable enough as a business owner but more importantly as a human being to recognise others for their knowledge and expertise I got a lot of respect for people like Louis

[@raymond289]

Recognize top Computer tech comes with is skill. All his employee special skills well deserved.

[@mensaswede4028]

Let's not forget that Apple charges a premium for this level of quality.

[@xpyr]

@Marcin Berman They do, but it needs to be shipped far away.

[@pillettadoinswartsh4974]

"quality" should be in scare quotes.

[@pl4t0n64]

The backround looks a little bit naked please ad a green screen and put a pic of the old shop as the backround

[@MrLocomusica1]

NY skyline would do too ;)

[@Microang]

I miss the old store backdrop too. I want to see Paul behind Louis again... 😔

[@adalmartinez2340]

Or a view out of a camera looking out into the shop

[@blu3kitten384]

Just put a camera directly behind Paul's head to put on the green screen

[@peterhindes56]

I think it looks much more clean. Maybe a plant would help

[@gordonrichardson2972]

I watched the live stream, and it was hilarious how this saga developed!

[@RPBCACUEAIIBH]

T2 stands for Terror chip with 2 functions: Die and Fail to be Unbricked (DFU) :P

[@ToPanPawel]

"Dont kurwa touch" label just killed me :D

[@gordonrichardson2972]

I had to google Polish swear words...

[@ToPanPawel]

@@gordonrichardson2972 haha :D Poles are spread all over the World

[@Vortagon84]

@@ToPanPawel Yes, we "kurwa" are :D

[@TheSuperobak]

Nasi tu byli kurwa :) lol pzdr for Kriss aka Krzysiek :)

[@galbraith69]

I've figure out that this guy is Polish on 3:30 hearing the accent :D Pozdrawiam! ;-) Then I saw the label and was sure. Thanks Louis for doing Great Job man! ;-) I do not solder electronics but I enjoy fixed equipment so much. Thanks!

[@acalthu]

This is why I watch your channel Louis. You share fixes like this with us, potentially losing a customer. No other business does this.

[@memanproductions]

Someone finally spilled liquid in their operating system 🤣

[@rars0n]

Apple juice.

[@imfloridano5448]

Whoa for a sec was like huh then i was like🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂👍👍 wen my brain finally caught the comment.

[@archiethedog4515]

LOL liquid damaged OS

[@cooker5000]

I was really waiting for this comment. Real Louis Rossmann Fan ;)

[@Vinizuca]

This is probably one of your best videos just because of the ending. You're a lucky guy to have good people working with you.

[@cj123123]

I’m so happy for your success Lewis. Your appreciation for your employees is touching, well done to each of you!

[@MyGSunny]

looks like Chris found an Apple T2 easter egg!

[@blockbertus]

And what would that be?

[@AC3handle]

@@blockbertus The creme filling inside an a macbook center?

[@mikecabral1579]

Good for you Louis. That was way over my head technically but that’s not why I watch your videos. I’m an old retired buzzard. I like your work ethic and your willingness to share knowledge. Today you really touched me because I saw a grateful and humble young man who seemed genuinely touched by what you have accomplished in business hiring people with skills you don’t have time to figure out or haven’t learned yet. Keeping pace with industry issues which means more happy customers. I think you learned something today.

[@pallu83]

Subscribed for the electronics, stayed for the great principles and leadership. All the best!

[@stevenjohns1322]

WoW what a team you have behind you, and like you say it makes you feel humble and proud at the same time

[@patricksmith117]

Congrats Louis and your people.

[@danielkozio859]

"kurwa" - You must be born Polish to understand all aspects, all meanings of this beautiful word! Greetings for Rossman Group from Great Poland! :)

[@richardpaulhall]

Your guys taught you, just as you taught other people.

[@archibaldgeorge8916]

i never owned or used a mac but love to watch you do the thing to make every one happy

[@neilskiw]

Thanks for sharing the appreciation of your brilliant employees with the world!

[@zx8401ztv]

The mark of an excellent employer: Appreciate your people :-).

[@firemansam2222]

I use Apple in the UK and thank you for opening my eyes to their expensive fixes. You amaze me and I enjoy how you fix this stuff thank you

[@TonyToneFixMyPhone]

I just went through with this today! All day changing USBCs and crying my brains out !

[@JosephWiess]

Rossman: I hope that you learned something today. Me: Not to buy apple.

[@Drazil100]

Wait you literally just learned that today?

[@JosephWiess]

@@Drazil100 Not really. I've never bought apple...hate apple, and will never buy anything apple.

[@heavystalin2419]

*crunch*

[@stuartbuffery2553]

@Austin Allman agreed. I had an apple in 2006 and it was great but can't believe the issues they are having with modern hardware. So if I did ever decide to have one I just need to have another one standing by to run diagnostics on should an update screw up 😠

[@sept.ober_5067]

@@JosephWiess Apple is bad and you never used anything made by apple. Wow, that speaks for itself lol

[@TonyToneFixMyPhone]

Haven't watched you in awhile. Looks nice in the background man. Tight! Got the good ish.

[@skfalpink123]

This is why I'm reluctant to upgrade from my 1987 Apple IIe which is still working perfectly!

[@bonbonpony]

04:27 LOL Polish was here :D 05:26 Is this a shorthand from "Device Fucked Up"? :) 11:43 One Rossman a day keeps Apple away :)

[@vodkawhisperer3923]

thank you for existing

[@highvoltage12v]

Maybe add "software/security" update to the title for better searchability.

[@denismilic1878]

I repaired hundreds of failed bios-es on PC and almost always I was able to do it with simple dual bios/USB/floppy/cd methods. Just in handful occasions I need to use external flashing with donor board and hot-swapping. This Apple method isn't so bad in comparison to older pc ways but on modern PC MBs dedicated USB port with a flash button is a king.

[@BuzZ.]

Hello sir, I would like to ask you who is that capacitor that you mention in most of your videos, and why is he killing all macbooks and why no one stops him

[@highvoltage12v]

His name is Sir Tantalum, if he doesn't get what he demands he will violently explode all over the board causing death to MacBook.

[@BuzZ.]

@@highvoltage12v someone need to make a wall around america to stop him !

[@davidguillory4311]

Hello Louis Rossmann.😊 Thanks for this new how to fix Apple MacBook problem... Oops!! Not only you, but Chris also to be thankful.👍😊

[@AchakBrooks]

I like what you said 11:53 on at the end there!

[@intimosiem]

Hi Louis, say hello to Krzysztof. it's nice to know that you hired a specialist from us 😁 And the inscription on the laptop, revelation.

[@pebsham]

I genuinely saw Louis choke up, sign of a boss that's learning to be a real leader.

[@rodmandealerman3297]

Louis, give yourself at least some credit. I think you could have figured it out using just a bit of logical deduction. If it's not a hardware problem/user-caused liquid damage, then it must be software. T2 failure it is! Either way, you have a business that you can be 100% proud of. Now, have a great weekend, and get yourself a cookie!

[@jiquin]

Thank you Louis!!! This is exactly what happened to my Macbook Pro. It's unacceptable that this could happen with a software update. The T2 chip is cursed.

[@OtherTheDave]

Good to know! Normally I keep at least one generation of old computer as a backup in case the new computer gets damaged/stolen/whatever, and I guess this is just another reason to do that. Does anyone know if this tool will run on a hackintosh? And does it specifically require the working computer to have USB-C, or will a USB-A to USB-C adapter work?

[@saad5690]

Thanks man, trick worked for Macbook Pro 2019 and yes, machine was totally bricked, no fan, no light, no sound, black screen, and DFU reset, wake it up. Also DFU work for me, when I connected dead machine with the left 2nd (from the screen) thunderbolt port. Reason for the condition: I tried to update to macOS Monterey , and when it stuck i forecefully restarted it. (maybe it was working, but the update bar is not moving much for around 30 minutes)

[@nicojoelitoreyes2219]

Could you tell me how you managed to put it in dfu mode without being able to see anything on the screen?

[@saad5690]

@@nicojoelitoreyes2219 you need another macbook with apple configurator 2 installed as shown in this video.

[@nicojoelitoreyes2219]

if I have another macbook and I have the thunderbolt 3 cable but I don't know how to put the macbook that doesn't turn on in dfu mode

[@saad5690]

Connect both macbook using the thunderbolt3 cable and run the apple configurator 2 app on working macbook. Follow the instructions in this video, you dont need to start the brick macbook, it will wake up itself, once it will be recovered successfully.

[@nywaterny]

Good seeing more repair videos! Glad the move worked out, and with some more good fortune, hoping the global situation benefits more repairs, which it should! So long if parts are needed, you can get them.

[@nobluesky]

Love that kind of content. Simple and super useful when you never saw it done.

[@Amraks]

successfully done this on a windows 10 pc with VMware with macOS 14 installed, it worked like a charm.

[@VCanisMajorisY]

Open market of ideas. Well done.

[@danielueblacker9118]

Louis been listening all is good, then looked up your eyes, dark around them like no sleep..... Are you alright. Please get some rest and take care of yourself. Unless it is bad lighting......

[@ENJOYWATCHING407]

Apple would just replace your motherboard and charge you $1000 lol

[@gordonrichardson2972]

And wipe all your data...

[@176cgna]

Out of warrenty or apple care yes absolutely

[@AC3handle]

I have to wonder if those boards cost as much as they say they do, or are they like a 38 buck wholesale item.

[@176cgna]

@@AC3handle for iphone I know they are about 40 to 60 percent of the phones total cost so I can only assume it would be just about the same

[@gordonrichardson2972]

AC3 If its a single board with the CPU soldered in place, its going to cost a lot of money!

[@MaggieLeeow]

I watched the 4mins add to support your channel haha small thing but hope your channel grows bigger!

[@vwestTube]

That’s very helpful video, thank you

[@gurmon]

I had the same issue and documented this on your forum.

[@RonSeymour1]

One day you will get to the point when you make all your workers shareholders. You already have a great workforce but that added incentive works wonders.

[@aremedyproject9569]

It’s exciting yes to be where you are. Congrats.

[@tangerinq]

Had one of these a couple of weeks ago. Wasted so much time on it, figured out it's a T2 issue, found a tip about DFU restore but didn't have another USB-C MacBook handy and it didn't work with an adapter to USB3. So sadly had to let it go.

[@Spartacusse]

Thanks for closing the gaps between the acoustic panels, my OCD is pleased. :D

[@panman1545]

This re-inforced my own belief never to buy Apple. If I want a pc I build it myself so if it breaks I will fix it myself - worst thing so far has been an intermittent PSU. Keep up the good work Louis.

[@kuruption1983]

Louis! You’re an awesome man... a rare kind.

[@KeithMoon1980]

You have just saved me from a £470 out of warrantee Apple repair. Thank you!!!!

[@dkosmari]

Kudos to the engineer that built a way to unbrick it with a lifeline to another Macbook.

[@frederiko1982]

Hello Louis, Congrats for another great video. It is possible to use an old a1278 with this app installed to run this type of DFU modes on newer macs? Or just the type-C ones can do that kind of update? On that machine im running patched catalina

[@CTCTraining1]

Teamwork... great to watch.

[@mikoldeon]

Many thanks, Louis, for the warning, I owe A1990 (2018 Pro) bought for 50$ as half-dead with question mark folder (it was minimal amount of work to fix it, luckily, some shit on the way to SSD to clean up) and I know now to stay with OSX Mojave for the time being. I got this laptop to test some FX software that exists only on Macs.

[@AdrianUsual]

“And the fan is spinning” hell yeah bois, another satisfied customer

[@nuthatch_gaming]

hello from a Polish fan!

[@Digital-Dan]

You're messing with my OCD with that one acoustic panel that has plastic wrap on it or something.

[@danb7631]

Wait.....did I just witness a boss showing true, heart felt appreciation toward his employees and not taking credit for their work!? THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL!! 😭😭😭😭 ( I'M NOT CRYING YOU ARE!)

[@gordonrichardson2972]

It was live streamed, so that was impossible to edit out...

[@rossmanngroup]

I forgot to edit it out.

[@adiposerex5150]

Good wishes to all of you. I love your attitude.

[@krzysztofmazurkiewicz5270]

4:27 :D That sticker! I need one! :D

[@jamessharier7529]

Never to old to learn something new

[@rsmaster5637]

Nice .. so after buying an 3 to 5 k mac you have to buy a second 3 to 5 k mac to fix it 👨‍💻. 😂

[@lyricsone3065]

Imagine both got updates at the same time :3

[@OtherTheDave]

RS Master The Mac mini starts at $800, and the iMac and MacBook Air both start at $1100. While I think we would both agree that Apple should have less expensive options (or at least higher base specs), that’s hardly $3k.

[@vwestTube]

Yeah 🤣😅

[@Goatcats]

Is this a new model? Would it be under warranty

[@chrisfoliaki6603]

to put into DFU model? press and hold control+option (left) +shit(right)+power? 10secs then release other button but still hold power until DFU appears on apple configurator?

[@dorin9322]

Quick trick question: what stops it happening again at the next software update?

[@googleplusisdead]

Which port is the master port? And does the configurator 2 program have to be on identical Macbook Pro, or any Macbook Pro, or can it be an iMac or plain Macbook, or mini? Thanks for filling in details on this. RichE San Diego, CA

[@SergeySenigov]

@Mr Guru No!

[@fendushi]

Thank you for doing these videos.

[@talpraitor]

hmm if i remember we tried to tell you this a couple of months ago in chat , 2 or 3 of us tried to tell you to use the apple config for it.

[@Tom_Losh]

I remember a number of folks pushing to use the DFU app from Apple, but it did seem to hit a brick wall somehow. Glad it seems sorted now.

[@arielusgrey1855]

Louis: we need someone attractive to be the face Me: You got a good enough face your fine

[@realMrVent]

I like the new background! It looks like a futuristic repair shop.

[@ConstanceJill]

I misread the title and thought you were going to work on a machine from 1990. It was obviously not the case, but it was still interesting :)

[@rjunk12349]

Louis getting choked up because he realized that the people he hired are executing his vision when he's not around. It's a great feeling.

[@nani5987]

My t2 just got screwed up....i am from India and the service cost exact 800 dollars and they say they might have to replace the lcd or the battery each costing 800 dollars....battery replacement in India costs 800 dollars

[@DamianDembek-i1k]

Zajebista robota Krzycha!

[@MrLocomusica1]

Louis, you can be very proud of your hard earned success. Who does the obviously solid hiring/recruiting ?

[@jovannyd3471]

Hey! Thank you for the video! When I try to do that it appears a message saying “connect accessory to a thunderbolt port on this mac”, and I’m using an Apple cable. Do you know what can I do? Thank you in advance

[@malgorzatatylek1409]

Is it possible to buy a macbook with good/normal cooldown system? What would you recommend?

[@JS_i4u_support]

After force quitting Apple Configurator see if it has its save state in libraries. Delete the file and start AC again. Should work without a reboot. Tell me if it worked. (Also say hi to Kris!)

[@evghenim1955]

Good news, T2 jailbreak incoming: checkm8 confirmed Also you can restore T2 from linux with idevicerestore

Thank you very much for your video! Works for me.

[@flysky6248]

Thank you Sir and Good Luck.

[@wolf2351]

So when your repairing a mac with corrosion, is that because the user is drinking stuff right over that mac and spill onto it.?!!!! Also, what is the usb charger that your using to measure voltage?

[@SlviBoySwag]

im so happy I got the 2019 iMac with no T2 chip

[@esadmuric7839]

Great info. Thank you for sharing. What if T2 chip dies. Is it possible to replace it and reconfigure it with that software? Is it possible to make a dump file of t2 chip?

[@SolFun]

Nope... T2 is even worst than SMC chip. And the new mac are one time used piece of junk.

[@edgarlora5242]

hello, I need to know where I can get a Touch Bar for MacBook Pro A1990, the Touch Bar is working , but, it doesn't light up at all. I need to change it. Where I can find the part to fix it, thanks.

[@redwings1974]

If a 13inc macbook pro fan trotting noisily. What could be the cause? Even when only surfing on web, it throttles after a while. Any advise? Did a check and all looks normal.

[@yetanothermichael3702]

It took me a minute to realize the title wasn’t “a 1990 MacBook Pro dead after update” like some kinda throwback episode lol

[@SCBiscuit13]

Glad to hear Kamil in the background :D

[@George030ful]

Apple logic: failed bios update equals 12 dollar cable plus a 1000+ dollar MAC to fix it PC logic: failed bios update equals 8 dollar 16GB USB plus a cheap-ass keyboard for control Can please someone explain to me WHY PEOPLE STILL DEFEND THIS?!!!! Fixing the corrupt bios on any motherboard was simplified over 8 years ago, Apple essentially is going backwards on simplicity by 8year margin, over pricing for repair for a problem that even a toddler can fix and people still decent this practice.

[@WizardNumberNext]

Maybe because it is so professional to repair MacBook using another MacBook. I can repair all BIOS/UEFI issues using £35 computer with £8 cable, which turns out into fully glorified programmer.

[@Scratchci]

No this is a lot easier than fixing bios in PCs. Most of them dont have safety measures like that and if bios update fails it fails and you get a brick which can be reprogrammed using a programmer. This requires teardown but this is very easy fix also I know there are easier methods in PC side. I use only PCs but i get the point they have.

[@vampirwrr]

@@Scratchci pc's often have dual bios, if first fail you can boot from second and restore first bios

[@felixgamingvlog6702]

@@Scratchci most modern pc have that feature lol

[@m4ki9h76]

@@felixgamingvlog6702 / Most enthuasist-grade mobos have that feature. But then, ASUS also check-sums their BIOS before post, and automatically recovers with compatible bios file if the firmware was corrupted somehow.

[@ahdamahdavila3781]

So I’ve done this before but this time on a A1932 MacBook Air it stays stuck on the Apple logo & full line!!! On the source MacBook Pro I’m running Big Sur! I get the can’t restore with explanation! So I’ve restarted source and dfu the target T2 and still the same thing! Have any suggestions

[@DeejayAfro]

Thanks for the Tips Louis !!!