A2K/VCHA Honest Thoughts & Opinions (Some Unpopular)

[@kpopxdistributions]

I did not want to address the Kg hair situation since it is not my place to speak on that subject. Thank you.

[@KGs_real_wife]

May I ask what it is so I can have a look on my own? No worries if not

[@KGs_real_wife]

@luvvrosiez thank you

[@Kryogenesw]

I really REALLY don't like people saying Kendall was chosen OVER Gina. Anyone that says this forgets that JYP said at the very beginning of the show that EVERYONE COULD DEBUT!! Kendall didn't take ANYONE'S SPOT. It's most likely that the character evaluations for Gina and Christina ended up being bottom 3 while he felt their final's performances were middle/low ranking. They LOST their own spots, their spots were not TAKEN by Kendall. Since Kaylee was also bottom two, just add in that she took their spots too and double down if that's your viewpoint.

[@LEXHARD17]

are you gonna speak out cultural appropriation too? then maybe you shouldn't. she's a minor and she wasn't disrespecting the culture.

[@LEXHARD17]

@@Kryogenesw thats very true, all 8 of them could debut. the spot position assigning could have happened during the audition. its just wasn't told to the contestant what position they have so they would not focus on only working for that position but grow other skills.

[@imstuckwiththephobia]

I'm so upset that Gina didn't make it, especially because she was one of the top constestants for me.

[@kittyplays417]

Frr her and Kaylee were my ults

[@imkathysantos850]

I always felt Gina like a robbot during her performances, her vocals and dance skills were amazing but, i always felt like she was to focus being perfect at those areas, and forgot to enjoy the performance and make the audience feel her energy and power. The only performance that I felt her being amazing and enjoying was the perfomance with Camila and Cristina. So, I kind understand why JYP didn't choose her, he told her all the time that she need to enjoy and take care of her expressions and at the first perfomance at Korea he said "I'm worried with Gina". About her solo carrer, I still felt like she was singing and dancing like a perfect robbot, and didn't felt anything about the music and her expressions. I hope that in the future she understand more about expressions and feel more "confortable" too dance and sing with more emotions, cause she already have talent.

[@MunkQoo]

I think JYP chose also based of their image. Their debut song was really cutesy and youthful but Cristina and Gina have a more mature aura. Also as a Yuna stan; she had great charisma but it was sad to see her nerves take over and ranked lower and lower. Her confidence was beat by the time she left. If she had received the praise Kendall got then I'm pretty sure she would have done better.

[@kpopxdistributions]

I definitely agree

[@maykathor24]

Yes. One thing about kpop industry is..... the most important thing for an artist to have is looks and dance skills. Vocally they can be trained. I mean listen to Twice... none of them can sing their ass off except for Jihyo. The rest are just... eh.

[@derekmorinaga1594]

"6 is such an UNEVEN number." Um....6 is an EVEN Number.

[@2KPOSSEUP]

calm down your everywhere

[@luvayuri]

I definitely agree with everything, abot Yuna, I like her a lot as a person, I see that she is not very good in skills but she has potential and I think the fans like her because she already looks like an idol and her personality is nice and comforting in some way and on social media you just feel like a friend with her and she fits into the category for kpop fans. Gina was definitely robbed. She's so talented and her personality is amazing, I'm glad she's working on a solo career now and we can watch her grow.

[@gorillaofjohn15]

Gina was my bias during A2k. But now actually i feel this is really a good team, and a good decision. Their personalities and character is a good match. Savanna is so low key but her personality is slowly coming out, and she is such a good member to have in the team. And her vocals is soooooo much better now. JYP mentioned before trajectory, and not location - it means he is more concerned about what he envision they will become in the future, and not their skills even now. I do agree that, in terms of the future development, these 6 will continue to evolve. Gina is really good but she seems to be stuck in her place since a long time ago - she has been doing this for a long time even before JYP, and she has always been doing things that are very matured for her age, since a very young age. So she is no a blank sheet of paper, or somebody with the versatility to be shaped to suit the direction of the group. She also had almost no improvement during the whole A2k. Now looking back, she is definitely good for her solo, but in this group, she likely will deviate further and further as the whole group grows, matures and evolves in concepts, while she continues to be stuck in her own mould. Unfortunately this was the signal she gave to JYP throughout A2k. As for Christina, since halfway, I have a certain hunch that her character evaluation will not come back well. And i strongly believe that she was dropped at the end when JYP heard the strong sentiments from the trainers who felt that she had issues in that area. Thus he repeatedly said, that he couldn't force the decision, as the evaluations came from everwhere. The trainers raised enough red flags about her attitude during training and thats sufficient for JYP not to take the risk, for the good of the group. I have my own observations about her behaviour during the entire show but it is not necessary to mention it further here. It is not to attack her. Eventually this group may not be the most exciting as it could be, but it is stable and reliable, and prob can be shaped much more closely as a uniform identity along the direction of the company. this is very in line with JYP's philosophy of long term growth. Its a marathon, not a sprint, as JYP said himself again.

[@trangichigo2001]

Hi! I think you or someone else commented about Cristina's alleged attitude issues. I was wondering in which episode was ghat mentioned. Because as far as I remember she was praised for putting a lot of effort and thought into understanding the lyrics and translating that into her performance

[@nono-p7e]

the main thing that makes me sad about Gina not debuting was seeing how close she used to be with the girls, and now seeing them all have fun without her

[@CutiePie-hh3gg]

Vcha is actually doing pretty good

[@Parfait-Vyu3856]

I agreed JYP have favoritism for Kendall and KG. But then KG has a strong voice and do deserve it. Overall, all the girls did well.

[@goddessjihyopark]

Yes KG won me over towards the end of the show, but Kendall though.. I still think Gina should have been the last one chosen but whatever it's JYPEEEEEE we know he has done it in several other talent shows so idk why people act surprised. He is the most biased person ever lol

[@Parfait-Vyu3856]

@@goddessjihyopark I agreed

[@canella411]

I agree with your commentary. I dislike survival shows tbh, fans get attached to a contestant and when the contestant does not debut they start bullying the ones that got in.We have seen that with Wonhee and Kendall. Which is like get a life pls, like is really not that serious. Regarding the music I hope they don't fully go for the sound they have showed us with their pre debut music it sound very disney ish which is not necessarily bad but I don't think that kind of sound/music appeals to the masses. I hope they go for like rnb/pop 2000s music like the song "Love me like this" by Nmixx just to give an idea,

[@kpopxdistributions]

Yesss I’d love that contest and I totally agree with your previous statement. I feel like people forget that these are kids and there’s no point in hating them. That’s why I’d prefer adding more rather than replacing them

[@purplemonkeysss]

I do want to say that Gina is 13 as well and I think some people say they like kaylee but she is to young and then say they wish it was Gina when they are the same age

[@moon..fairyys]

It’s sad because everyone’s talking about how Gina didn’t make it when Christina showed full effort. It’s like nobody cares about her and uses her name in Absolutely NOTHING. In my disgrace Christina was my one and I think JYP didn’t accept her because she was black but christina is a full on artist and she shows true commitment, passion, plus she is kind to everyone. So can we just give Christina some praise? Ik Gina was a trainee at Jyp and she was so good but I hate how nobody even cares for Christina like it’s so rude now.

[@WokOverEasy]

People are talking about Gina because she was so skilled and trained it seemed like she could debut even from the start. I see why she wasn’t chosen and I think it’s the same reasons as Cristina. It’s not a talent issue but that they didn’t fit the cute concept.

[@HaikyuuHavoc]

Well I think a lot of things that your missing is that, christina was very lacking in vocals she usually made up for it with her amazing dance skills, but a huge part of K-pop his vocals. As a black person I don’t want people turning this into a race thing because so Savannah the thing is is that Savannah had amazing dance skills and she had a vocal ability. Christina was laughing and vocal ability. They never really talked about it, but in all of the stages she had a lot of charisma but her singing wasn’t very good.

[@relaxcalmly1742]

I agree with all you said about yhe girls tbh. Their predebut songs took me a bit and it grew in me. But i do prefer YOUniverse most and it’s probably because i connected through with the journey of their way there through watching the entire show. I also hope JYP will give them a better concept and style that is attractive, unique, but can be trendy.

[@kpopxdistributions]

Yes I agree, I felt like they just wanted a meaningful pre debut. I hope they change the style too because it feels like a mix of niziu and itzy and I kinda want VCHA to have their own style and concept

[@DoctorStrange01]

Gina was a trainee at JYPE for 1 year and still couldn't improve on what JYP told her throughout the show, which is a very bad prognosis for the future. Look at the other contestants and their improvements in the areas they were pretty bad at, in a few months of training, as a comparison. Obviously, she didn't make it. Cristina didn't excel at anything. She was kinda... neutral. That's probably what JYP has seen as well, compared to other contestants who made it. Mischa was just too shy and quiet, and like someone commented under one of the first episodes of A2K - she's giving theatre kid vibes. Just not a kpop idol material, unfortunately. I feel like she would fall behind the other members too when i look at the final lineup. Melissa dipped cause she found out mid-show that she's not really into teamwork i guess. Her interview made it a bit obvious. I personally think it was a very weird move to even audition for a kpop group if you knew it's not for you. It makes me think that she went there simply for clout, to showcase her vocals for her planned solo career. That's the only logical explanation i have for this kind of behavior. She didn't prepare in dance AT ALL for this show. Like, didn't even try, probably. Which only cements my impressions. Kendall, the most hated on contestant, made it into the group because of her ability to express herself on stage, also her attitude and work ethics (evaluation from the staff), and of course she fits perfectly when it comes to visuals in a kpop group. Obvious choice. She can remain a sub vocalist like it happens in many groups and no one has an issue with that. With Kendall though, it is a problem of course 😂😂 And yes, JYP was probably set on her after the Sunmi performance. I would too, it was just amazing. I think the show editing did her dirty though, cause it showed her getting praised for everything even when she wasn't good enough to get praised. Kendall is on the receiving end and gets hate she doesn't deserve, it should be towards A2K producers, not Kendall. People following kpop and watching these shows are usually so fucking biased that they can't see past that and never look at the groups or members chosen from a business perspective. All the members that were chosen for VCHA make sense and the choices are totally justified : 1. Camila - very good voice, chill and caring, "mom" vibes 2. Lexus - strong dancer, taking initiative, helpful for the members, keeping them focused 3. Kendall - see above 4. Savanna - another strong dancer, deeper voice, cheerful personality 5. KG - best singer and multitalented when it comes to playing instruments, also songwriter which could help later 6. Kaylee - adorable youngest with already decent vocal skills It doesn't matter if some people don't agree with that or not, cause JYPE staff knows better who fits their group and who doesn't, we literally saw tiny snippets from the whole months long training period during the show and people are acting like they know shit about behind the scenes 😂You don't. There's always a reason for something happening. Your comment on Gina > Kendall just proves what i said. You picked Gina over Kendall purely because of her dancing and singing skills, but not the "it" factor that kpop idols need to succeed. And Kendall has multiple times more of it and fits kpop more. As for how it is now after the debut : people hating on Kendall during the show ? She's 2nd most popular in Korea now and they praise her a lot, a lot of progress on her dancing, very solid stage presence. KG ? Best vocals, plays instruments, huge improvement in dancing. Kaylee ? Great vocals at such a young age, people love her. Did i miss any "controversial" in some people's eyes picks for this group ? I think not. Try being a bit more objective in judgement sometimes, it's really important in life to not always perceive everything based on your emotions.

[@WokOverEasy]

I think people are also mad because Kendall is beautiful especially by Asian beauty standards like she didn’t do anything to earn it. Sorry but.. sometimes that’s just how life is.

[@dokessezeaka5159]

I don’t condone hating and bashing in Kendall at all. I think the fault completely lies with jyp and his blatant favourism for her. He was quick to point out the mistakes or things he didn’t like with Gina’s and Cristina’s performances that the audience couldn’t see, almost like he was setting them up for failure. But would straight up lie about Kendall’s singing and call her performance “ perfect “, which was what did it for me. You could tell how much he really wanted to push the idea of Kendall already making it to the audience, by saying that and that she got the list votes from trainers, but omitted get votes from the other girls, which makes me think that she was low it didn’t rank at all, cause he said both the trainer and team rankings for the other girls. If she hadn’t done all of that and actually provided her with constructive criticism in the parts that she was lacking im pretty sure wouldn’t see this gate train on her. For example KG is objectively the least trained dancer but her hard work she effort payed off, which warmed the viewers hearts, and he had previously always called her out on her dancing

[@michaeltruly3260]

Kendall was the strongest performer right in the beginning with her solo. Hence, all the girls ranked her the lowest because it was obvious they were jealous of her.

[@Kaybye555]

​@@michaeltruly3260😂 nobody was jealous. Can you consider maybe they didn't like her for a reason?

[@lylacampbell4922]

I agree about gina she was totally robbed!!! But I won’t hate on Kendall

[@CutiePie-hh3gg]

No doubt they should at least be one more girl can't decide between Gina and Christina

[@lexy888]

I’m so mad about Gina not making it

[@gracebear]

Christina has very beautiful dance shining more than her vocal

[@derekmorinaga1594]

The thing people don't understand...you push your most talented artist knowing they will be the leaders. In the end LEXUS really improved on her singing and improved on her dancing. Gina seemed to just stay the same.

[@cebg1]

That’s what I was thinking too. Gina is good and I love her since the beginning. However, there wasn’t an improvement overall she just stayed the same.

[@Paul-qp7mq]

She remained good. Which is hard when you are constantly unfairly criticised and underranked. Just have a look at The Feels and Back Door

[@To_The_Moon96]

I agree, I also always liked Lexus because she kept improving

[@PoussinNoNeko]

Gina is not that good of a performer, she is a skilled dancer and singer, but her performances don't have much feelings, this has been her main problem since the start and this part didn't improve much during the span of the whole program. K-Pop is not only about technical skills, you need to be able to convey emotions, it's more important than anything else for JYP.

[@tuesdayjanae3676]

Gina just never for me caught my attention and is not enjoyable to watch. Kendall on the other hand is so entertaining and engaging onstage. The final girls who were picked deserve it. All of your faves can be chosen. Also Gina is only 13 one yr older than kaylee, and kaylee blows Gina out the water.

[@tuesdayjanae3676]

@atheistme9842 not saying she isn’t great, just not for this group in particular

[@tuesdayjanae3676]

@atheistme9842 she’s not the one to decide though lol jyp has been doing this for decades before you and I were born, im sure he knows who and what works well for a group. Vcha is doing very well, and looks great with the current members chosen. Not to mention jyp staff who has multiple years experience also helped with decision making.

[@imkathysantos850]

Yes, i totally agree with you. I never felt emotion when i saw her perfomances, and it was exactly what JYP said to Gina all the time.

[@tuesdayjanae3676]

@@imkathysantos850 and the fact that she was a jyp trainee and for a year prior to the show, but kaylee who never had formal training still imo (based on how close they are in age only I’ve year apart) still out acted and performed her is crazy.

[@To_The_Moon96]

I think everyone who debut was perfect. Lexus deserved to get first, she was the best

[@marangelysgonzalez8203]

I think the line up shouldve been Rank 1: Camila Rank 2: Gina Rank 3: Savanna Rank 4: Lexus Rank 5: Kaylee Rank 6: Cristina

[@marangelysgonzalez8203]

I wish they all would've debuted, but I think these people were the most ready out of them all.

[@marangelysgonzalez8203]

If it was 7, then Rank 7 would've been Kendall

[@accuratekpopnews]

Kendall should be there

[@marangelysgonzalez8203]

@@accuratekpopnews If JYP had done 7 then she would've made it

[@marangelysgonzalez8203]

@@accuratekpopnews But her and Cristina can be interchangeable

[@rion2964]

Melissa wasn't eliminated, she decided not to go to korea

[@LEXHARD17]

specifically, she did not want to miss her graduation this past may.

[@rion2964]

@@LEXHARD17 she made her choice then

[@LEXHARD17]

@@rion2964 most likely

[@rion2964]

@@LEXHARD17 Melissa would make a good solo artist, hope we see more of her in the future

[@Cupidador]

i would agree with everything but the gina argument. she wasn't really exceptionally good at anything. she never stood out and came in with being a trainee/ having prior training under her belt while still not showing any exceptionally good talents. kendall ranked first in the solo performance and also sang the theme song which was basically an automatic debut (which is fair) I'm happy they went the vocal route and other than the order I agree with ranking and think they chose everyone who DESERVED to debut.

[@OnasisRichards]

Gina, Kristina, Camilla, Kendall, Lexi, Savanah, & KG These seven should of been the final line up honestly 😭 I feel like an American Girl type of concept could of work. Like cowgirl type of vibe similar to unforgiven by lesserafim. Idk that line up would of ate so baddd

[@ShototodirokiMHA]

I'm so glad someone finally has the same opinions/views as i do!

[@maykathor24]

Fr I'm so glad I wasn't the only one thinking all that shit to myself!

[@HaleyChu-n4v]

They did end up releasing a song called "Ready for the world" which is the intro and outro song we hear throughout A2K

[@derekmorinaga1594]

Everyone forgets that the TRAINERS gave Kendall the highest ranking in a tie with Lexus.

[@TheKatiebugsTTV]

I feel like there was a lot we didn't see that led to the Trainers giving certain people high rankings in the final character evaluations and others, not so-high ranks. For the Trainers to give such high ranks to Lexus and Kendall there had to be something. And considering JYP said the character evaluations had a lot to do with why Christina and Gina weren't chosen... again there had to have been something. These Trainers dealt with the girls alone. One by one. They saw a whole different side to them versus when they were in a group with each other. Also, character evaluations aren't just about how respectful you act. It could be your work ethic, how motivated you are, how well you take criticism, and how well you apply that criticism. And considering Gina was already a trainee IF she didn't meet the Trainers' expectations in comparison to some of the other girls that's going to affect her placement. I personally feel like her already being a trainee might have hindered her. If she came in as a fresh face like the others I don't feel like she would have had such a hard time. Her being a trainee made it hard for her to let go of that pressure and it very well could have placed her on an unfair pedestal in the minds of the trainers. If they felt she didn't exceed their expectations that's going to affect their decision and opinions.

[@Tt-ji8pm]

​@@TheKatiebugsTTV just a correction Jyp never said why Christina and Gina weren't selected. He just mentioned that Lexus and Kendall ranked high in the character evaluations for trainers.

[@Paul-qp7mq]

In Korea an employee doesn’t go against their boss’ opinion.

[@michaeltruly3260]

Hands down Kendall has the greatest star potential. She has the "look" foremost and the talent can be developed. Her first performance was exceptionally good which JYP gave her the high rating. As a result, all the other contestants were jealous of her and their popularity ranking put her last.

[@KDAx05]

@@michaeltruly3260 idk why Kpop stans keep saying Kendall has the “look”…she is just a regular girl by US standards. A lot of people look like her here. The only one with real potential star power is Camila.

[@anngrace7778]

Gina & crintsna (I have no idea how to spell at name) was def robbed, and i did see favoritism but hating on Kendall won’t help change the fact, that Gina & crintsna wasn’t in the line up, if you wanna be upset be upset at jyp it’s not Kendall’s fault she was favorited

[@Jjangbunbun]

Right..

[@moonlight_antonio]

I really enjoyed this video. Great analysis and I agree with everything you said about each contestants and members. For this to be content that you don't normally do, you did really well.

[@kpopxdistributions]

Thank you I really appreciate that 🥰🥰

[@Jjangbunbun]

At the end of the day jyp and jype knows how to make a successful girl group so i put my trust in him

[@appleblooms259]

I believe both of them were not robbed. Check out their character evaluations and the feedback that Gina got that she didn’t improve on. Christina’s fate was probably sealed during the character evaluation and her last performance(she said that she had a back injury so that made it harder for her to dance). Gina was constantly being told that she didn’t have the emotions behind her dancing(and singing) except for the Back Door performance. When she tried to show emotion, it looked unnatural and/or planned. At first I was trying to find out why I would drift off while watching her until JYP pointed out that she was emotionless. Obviously, she’s talented but talent can only take you so far. I feel like many of y’all saying that Gina was robbed forget how important improvised emotion is in KPop. Many KPop stars have fan cams that people edit especially based on the emotions they show. Obviously it’s not just about edits and whatnot but I hope you understand what I mean.

[@marinapermatasari609]

What wrong with kendall and Kg they are amazing and talented. i trust JYP team they knew what they're doing to be honest i want all 8 will be debut 🥲

[@brooklynlitteral4678]

6 is literally an even number...how is it the most uneven between 5 and 7 members 💀

[@kpopxdistributions]

I mean like formation wise not literally the number 6 😭

[@brooklynlitteral4678]

@@kpopxdistributions oh 😂😂 the way you worded it sounded weird I guess. But yeah i can see that. But there are a bunch of 6 member groups...I just hope that this 6 member group doesnt get the 6 member group curse where a group lose a member and go from 7 to 6 or 6 to 5...

[@kpopxdistributions]

@@brooklynlitteral4678 yeah Ik I feel you 😭, also yeah I noticed a lot of people are confusing what I mean by 6.

[@christinadominiko8708]

You are spot on ❤

[@GongjuSY]

Nope. The original OT6 is perfect!

[@mehidayat-bl6cx]

I want to clarify something but is this the K-pop we knew:( I love the band and I like it but but!!! this is not K-pop band (Point of view) Without hatred 💗😭

[@imstuckwiththephobia]

Fact

[@joyjackson9092]

what?

[@cebg1]

It’s not supposed to be kpop

[@imstuckwiththephobia]

@@cebg1 Yeah we know, but I personally feel like they shouldn't be performing on k-pop stages...because then it gives a kpop group impression yk?

[@PoussinNoNeko]

What is a K-Pop group suppose to be?

[@RaqueldaconceicaofaustoF-kt3mi]

💯💪 Gina , yuna , Cristina , melissa e misha .

[@wedonotcarefreedompeople-5ye]

I wanna be 8-9group member:( same runext show six members..... this result for a2k small marketing.

[@posted6232]

Muy interesante! Love from Seoul

[@michaeltruly3260]

Kendall has the greatest star potential. Talent and overall looks is hard to beat. She can go solo. You can tell the girls were jealous of her in the beginning when she was ranked the lowest from all the other contestants.

[@RORA_AHYEON_RAMI_BABYMONSTER]

What ?