Royal Navy as viewed from HMS Nelson circa 1931

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@Joe0161
@Joe0161 10 жыл бұрын
My grandad served aboard this ship during WWII in one of the forward guns
@cheesesteak2795
@cheesesteak2795 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Shorrocks amazing!!! :)
@deriter64
@deriter64 11 жыл бұрын
Actually the Rodney and the Nelson were the most powerful warships in the world when they went to sea. Unfortunately, Great Britain's adherence to the Washington Naval Treaty tinkered with their design so badly they were unwieldy monsters and too slow, But even so old Rodney's 16 inch broadside blew away Bismarck;s main armament in 15 minutes,
@russg1801
@russg1801 6 жыл бұрын
These were comparable to the USN's Colorado class in speed and firepower. IOW, they pre-dated "fast battleships."
@TheTraveller20081
@TheTraveller20081 5 жыл бұрын
@@russg1801 yes, but had the Washington Treaty not thrown a spanner in the works, Nelson and Rodney would have been part of the G3 and N3 class of battleships and battlecruisers. 18-inch guns, four screws, bigger engines and a more conventional layout. They would have been the original fast battleships if only the British weren't such sticklers for following the rules...
@ThePaulv12
@ThePaulv12 5 жыл бұрын
They weren't very unwieldy at all (but it was thought they might be but it turned out they were fine) and Rodol exceeded hull speed by 1.5kts with worn out turbines. Seems the captain thought since they're rooted lets give'm jolly what ho!
@ljd8520
@ljd8520 5 жыл бұрын
Get them all rebuilt, and let's have back Egypt and the Middle East while we are at it !
@theREDdevilz22
@theREDdevilz22 7 жыл бұрын
Being British back then must have been the best feeling in the world!
@ThePaulv12
@ThePaulv12 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah get a prime minister to make Britain great again - oh hang on, it already is Great Britain but not for much longer so it seems.
@lawrencelinehan4602
@lawrencelinehan4602 4 жыл бұрын
It's still a good feeling - don't moan.
@robruss62
@robruss62 4 ай бұрын
Not much that can't be fixed. CANZUK would be the worlds third largest economy, largest nation, and third most powerful military if the combined federation matched even peacetime US defence spending levels of about 3.5% GDP. The Navy alone could be around 300 ships
@BlueonGoldZ
@BlueonGoldZ 13 жыл бұрын
@HelmutVillam I believe Rodney/Nelson were built the way they were due to a treaty agreement limiting tonnage. They put the turrets all in one section so that more of the ship would have armor covering rather than spreading the turrets out with massive soft spots in the middel fo the ship. They designed it for consolidation. She had firepower and thick skin going for her.
@ConfusedAdmiral
@ConfusedAdmiral 3 жыл бұрын
The Nelson-Class was so lucky that no U-Boat was following *behind* them...
@chrisbell5920
@chrisbell5920 5 жыл бұрын
This footage is definitively from 1929. At 04:11 we see a blackboard and written upon it in chalk is the final result of the 1929 Schneider Trophy held at Leigh-on-Solent, won by Henry Waghorn, 2nd Tomasso dal Molin, 3rd D'Arcy Creig. It also names their aircraft, the engines used and the times. Seems pretty definitive to me.
@A60stock
@A60stock 5 жыл бұрын
Many thanks
@ToonandBBfan
@ToonandBBfan 14 жыл бұрын
Amazing footage - Thanks for posting
@drcurv
@drcurv 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video; thanks for uploading it. Having great fun trying to identify the various ship classes shown here :)
@gameon5210
@gameon5210 3 жыл бұрын
0:48 what is it???
@karlcolt
@karlcolt 5 жыл бұрын
My great uncle was Chef Stocker onboard this ship.
@trent8002003
@trent8002003 15 жыл бұрын
The Iron Duke was still around by 1931. Thought it had been reduced to a training ship.
@robruss62
@robruss62 4 ай бұрын
Benbow, Marlborough and Emperor of India plus Tiger were all still serving with Iron Duke into 1931.
@transonicbuoy1
@transonicbuoy1 15 жыл бұрын
Great, great post. Great for the rarity, great for the ship. Thanks.
@richardgrant5105
@richardgrant5105 5 жыл бұрын
Very well done, that teacher - a lot better than some "pro" footage !!
@higfny
@higfny 12 жыл бұрын
Very good point tamenga, I hadn't thought about docks. Though weight isn't everything and Vanguard was 51k tons full load, and I would assert that the brits had the knowhow to build ships like her 5 years earlier if the political will had been there. I would also assert that both Vanguard and the Lions were better ships than the Bismarcks - what do you think? Still, your point stands, thanks.
@elswick1542
@elswick1542 14 жыл бұрын
Its defiantly Iron Duke,fantastic video.
@studentjohn35
@studentjohn35 11 жыл бұрын
In one of the "at sea' shots you can see 2 Iron Duke class ships underway. So the film has to be pre-1930, anyway.
@Peorhum
@Peorhum 6 жыл бұрын
They were removed from service in 31-32 I think so this was likely their last major exercise before being disposed or turned into a training ship.
@Peorhum
@Peorhum 6 жыл бұрын
A few of the old Iron Dukes still in service at this point. Likely the last major exercise with the Irons dukes.
@db605
@db605 5 жыл бұрын
Imho the most beautiful battleships of all time - the right blend agressive sleekness and purposeful steampunk...
@crabcrab1155
@crabcrab1155 5 жыл бұрын
What's that white smoke for?
@mycroft1905
@mycroft1905 3 жыл бұрын
Smokescreen.
@pramboy09
@pramboy09 14 жыл бұрын
@trent8002003 I thought it was by mid-late 30's that iron duke was converted to a training ship
@hujjesb
@hujjesb 15 жыл бұрын
hey love this my grandfather was on hms rodney
@apieceofdirt4681
@apieceofdirt4681 9 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for posting. I know this is off topic but I still don't understand why HMS Rodney wasn't used in the first engagement with Bismarck instead of Hood. Britain always seemed to use the Battlecruiser for something it wasn't designed for.
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 8 жыл бұрын
The ocean is a big place to cover, and you can't have all your ships in one place. Even so, Hood was accompanied by Prince of Wales and she did hit the Bismark twice before retiring after Hood sunk. Those two hits caused enough damage to make Bismark try to head back to base...a fateful decision for the Bismark...
@Makeyourselfbig
@Makeyourselfbig 8 жыл бұрын
+apiece ofdirt Because the Rodney could only manage 23 knots top speed. She was incapable of keeping up with the new King Geroge class battleships of which the Prince of Wales was one. If the Bismark couldn't have sunk her she would have out run her. The Rodney and Nelson look intimidating with those big 16'' guns but they were already obsolete when the war started.
@Dunwell99
@Dunwell99 8 жыл бұрын
Another reason would be the fact Rodney and four other destroyers were on convoy protection duty heading to Canada and Rodney was due to go in for repairs in America due to a damaged boiler (don't quote me) As well as the fact hood was faster and capable of keeping pace with Prince of Wales.
@marvuika
@marvuika 8 жыл бұрын
The HMS Rodney is too slow top speed is 23.8 knots . Bismarkck top speed is 30.8 knots I think 。
@cirvine11
@cirvine11 14 жыл бұрын
Hood is visible at 3:24.
@VGTerm
@VGTerm 10 жыл бұрын
Which March it is and the name please I like it a lot
@higfny
@higfny 12 жыл бұрын
also, if you should compare bismarck to british battleships it should be KGV, Lion or Vanguard. Lion is probably the most appropriate, and also reflects best on the british; they could have built ships much more powerful and better protected than bismarck, and had the know-how (several features on Bismarck is quite anachronistic), but realised that small ships and carriers was the way to go.
@sailingtech334
@sailingtech334 8 жыл бұрын
My father was on this ship
@cheesesteak2795
@cheesesteak2795 6 жыл бұрын
sailingtech wow!!! What did he do on the ship?
@sydlemon5285
@sydlemon5285 5 жыл бұрын
Mine was on Rodney in B turret during the Bismarck episode.
@corneliusvanDB
@corneliusvanDB 14 жыл бұрын
@salvatorearcilesi umm, i'm pretty sure the nelson SUNK the bismarck? the bismarck sunk the hood, but was ultimately sunk by the nelson (and another ship whose name i forget)
@TheTraveller20081
@TheTraveller20081 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, Rodney was there, not Nelson. The other battleship in at the kill was HMS KG5
@corneliusvanDB
@corneliusvanDB 14 жыл бұрын
@salvatorearcilesi kein problem, ich kann auch deutsch. ich hatte gesacht dass die rodney hat die bismarck gesunken
@higfny
@higfny 12 жыл бұрын
Rodney in 1931? Interesting, that may mean that Cunningham was the captain when this was shot
@abes.4040
@abes.4040 6 жыл бұрын
I read that at some point the Royal Navy had 70 warships. I wonder where did they find so many people to men those ships. England is not a particular big country.
@thomashaggis8601
@thomashaggis8601 5 жыл бұрын
Abe S. The Royal Navy is British not English, and it had a lot more than 70 warships, crewed by personnel from all over the Commonwealth.
@Thorny5718
@Thorny5718 5 жыл бұрын
The Royal Navy is British mate, NOT English. Manned by Brits and commonwealth troops. England, Wales, Scotland, N.Ireland, dominions & commonwealth etc. By the way 65mil + live on the British isles....hence why we can’t fit anymore in!!!
@TheTraveller20081
@TheTraveller20081 5 жыл бұрын
70? We had hundreds!
@ygums1221nt
@ygums1221nt 13 жыл бұрын
@slightlyfloored The best comment on that battle.
@Cool2BCeltic
@Cool2BCeltic 9 жыл бұрын
In 1931, the World's most powerful navy, tailored to the requirements of maintaining the security of an Empire that was showing signs of strain.
@xiaohu318
@xiaohu318 7 жыл бұрын
Cool2BCeltic world's most powerful navy in 1931 is US or Japan ,not Britain,as RN's aircraft carriers ,carrier-based aircrafts were lagging behind too much
@ULTRA_2112
@ULTRA_2112 7 жыл бұрын
+XIAO HU: We talk about 1931, not 1941. In 1931 the Royal Navy was the most powerful navy in the world. Japan had three aircaft carriers, Akagi, Kaga and Hosho. In 1931 japanese carrier-based aircraft were british design with british engines build under british license. The US Navy had CV-1 Langley, CV-2 Lexington and CV-3 Saratoga as aircraft carriers. The Royal Navy had HMS Argus, HMS Courageous, HMS Glorious, HMS Furious, HMS Eagle and HMS Hermes as aircraft carriers. In 1931 British Fairey, Hawker, Blackburn and Vickers carrier-based aircraft were second to none.
@gerogyzurkov2259
@gerogyzurkov2259 6 жыл бұрын
1931 was when the world was in the great depression also every nation was showing strains one or another not just Britain. USA and Japan somewhat had major economic issues. And Germany also.
@Thorny5718
@Thorny5718 5 жыл бұрын
XIAO HU The RN was still the most powerful and largest Navy up until 42/43. Do some research before you talk utter nonsense
@corneliusvanDB
@corneliusvanDB 14 жыл бұрын
@salvatorearcilesi sorry, the nelson's sister ship, rodney, sunk the bismarck. nelson had nothing to do with it.
@salvatorearcilesi
@salvatorearcilesi 14 жыл бұрын
@corneliusvanDB ich versteh kein englisch aber ich denke das die Nelson ein schönes Schlachtschiff war genau so wie die Rodney aber sie hatten damals gegen die Bismarck null Chance selbst die yamato hätte keine Chance gegen die Bismarck.......the end
@Kohl423
@Kohl423 8 жыл бұрын
Clearly Hood was faster and a lot nearer to the Bismark than Rodney. Hood was but by this stage over rated. Not that she was not an impressive warship and you would not have wished to be on the receiving end of her guns, but Hood was a Battle Cruiser. Which meant sacrificing armour for speed. Her deck armour was weaker compared to other more modern Battleships of this period. Alas that proved fatal when facing the Bismark.
@DaveFrags
@DaveFrags 8 жыл бұрын
Kohl423 indeed :( she did try to get close to Bismarck as to negate plunging fire but it wasn't meant to be! I love military history but it always saddens me when you think of all the lives lost on both sides when a ship goes down !! Crazy numbers
@salvatorearcilesi
@salvatorearcilesi 14 жыл бұрын
@corneliusvanDB .....hurra................
@salvatorearcilesi
@salvatorearcilesi 14 жыл бұрын
keine Chance gegen die Bismarck....absolut keine....
@ULTRA_2112
@ULTRA_2112 7 жыл бұрын
+Salvatore Arcilesi: Die HMS Rodney hat die Bismarck effektiv zerstört. Bismarck konnte im Gefecht gegen HMS Rodney und HMS King George V nicht einen Treffer erzielen.
@oldigger7060
@oldigger7060 9 жыл бұрын
Boring march music!
@mycroft1905
@mycroft1905 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, appropriate music.
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