LOST: Eloise Widmore and Desmond [6x11-Happily ever after]

[@dolism]

@garfilms Eloise is just trying to quiet Desmond down here because she knows if he "wakes up," there's a good possibility that he'll try to wake up people he knew in his Island life, like Daniel Faraday. And that's exactly what Eloise doesn't want to happen because in this purgatory-limbo type existence, she can have the peaceful relationship with her son that she never got to have in her previous life.

[@CreativeUsernameEh]

That’s remarkably insightful, thank you for sharing your thoughts.

[@evedotcom]

ahhhh that makes sense!

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

@@CreativeUsernameEh That's not ''remarkably insightful'', it's literally just a recap lol.

[@jonathancooper4914]

And because Desmond will find himself on an aged space station 97 years after nuclear fallout in his next life.

[@jonathancooper4914]

Well spotted btw. Gonna have to watch Lost again all the way through.

[@kona2860]

I love the constant

[@mohammedmelouk8923]

who doesn't love the constant

[@alexandar4943]

You sounded like Sawyer and Michael: Sawyer: You like Bob Marley? Michael: Who doesn't like Bob Marley? :D

[@Garp397]

I think Eloise being ok with driveshaft not coming was ok with her as it would mean charlie wouldn't interact with the other islanders and wouldn't wake more people up.

[@DEREKinNYC]

Eloise Widmore was the one not ready.

[@robinmendelson5512]

DEREKinNYC but why is she awake?

[@007Fusiion]

@@robinmendelson5512 She knew the past due to the flashes in the 70s

[@Rudy_Play]

​@@robinmendelson5512She, like Ben, remembered her life, but decided to stay longer to be with the people she loved

[@3rdman1]

I think Eloïse is like Desmond. I don’t remember well the serie but I remembered Daniel was convinced that « people » were the « variable » where in fact, Eloïse and desmond truly were. « Rules don’t apply on them ». Their destiny is to help people closest to them to remember and reunite them in the afterlife so they can go to paradise or something like that. That would explain why desmond was fully aware of the afterlife even when he was still alive in the last season, just probably like eloise during the serie. But unlike Desmond she decided to ignore that by not helping her closest relatives to remember in Order to spend more time with her son that she killed. So in fact, it is her who is not ready to « move on »

[@kbanghart]

Why did she get mad at Desmond in this scene? It's been too long since I saw the show lol

[@seancarletonzero]

@@kbanghart She didn't want Desmond to take Daniel with him.

[@kbanghart]

@@seancarletonzero why

[@TheodoreBotman]

@@kbanghart Probably because he's her son and in the real world they had a miserable life together, her knowing his entire life she was gonna kill him.

[@J-Obaltyboy]

See you in another life, brotha.

[@Norolym]

This and The Constant are the best episodes ever ;)

[@LDMythos]

Remember back in Season Three's "Flashes Before Your Eyes", Ms. Hawking's (here Eloise Widmore) debut episode, how she ranted about course-correction and pointed out a man in red shoes that she just knew would inevitably die? And then described how, hypothetically, he would die if she had helped him? I think it was a hint to this. Eloise Hawking/Widmore, somehow, is connected to both realities.

[@Damon242]

Universal freak-out when she says 'it is, in fact, a violation".

[@Akeboun]

Damon242 I still don’t get that part

[@kbanghart]

@@Akeboun I think it just means he was trying to jump ahead instead of letting events play out. Just guessing

[@firstname4337]

yeah, violation of what -- there's so much they never explained

[@Damon242]

first name I’ve rewatched the series, most of it falls into place with really only ‘why the others needed walt’ affecting the narrative As for the ‘violation’, that was against Eloise personally and her perception that Desmond’s sudden inexplicable curiosity was threatening the security of her sideways’ world, only he (and the audience) didn’t quite grasp that at the time. It’s touched on again in the finale when she expresses concern at whether Desmond will be taking Faraday with him.

[@supermilkguy]

@@Akeboun the way she says it, viewers are meant to think she was talking about a violation of the ”rules.” But in hindsight, it’s clear it’s more like when someone says “I feel violated.”

[@smallvillefan72]

I LOVED the character of Desmond on Lost.

[@power2084]

He's the most important character of all. All the story revolves around him, people just need to realize it.

[@santachorry]

Desmond was cool as shit

[@petertonofficial]

@3:18 LOL I think at this point; Eloise was just exhausted from all the previous encounters with David Desmond Humes, you can tell that Eloise had carried Desmond's burden through her voice.

[@FastFordClub]

Best Show Ever , Love Desmond WOW

[@OscarMemo333]

0:43 why the eloise scary sfx??

[@ZuluRomeo]

I love how Daniel is seen playing the same piece he plays in his childhood flashback in The Variable.

[@jedi4049]

The actor remind me of Dustin Hoffman

[@JesseHollandMMA]

Great episode and you got this up fast!

[@VCYT]

A whore said the same thing to me.

[@alexandar4943]

0:00 Faraday's playing Chopin's Fantaisie Impromptu

[@ZuluRomeo]

The same piece he plays in The Variable

[@55tranquility]

He's not ready because he needs to be a monk, join the army, go to prison etc etc so he gains the strength of character, skill and experience to live on his own pushing the button and survive the massive exposure to magnetic energy when he turns the failsafe key and saves the world. Most of all be needs to have faith he is doing it for good. What happens, happens - it's all meant to happen and is going to happen and there is nothing anyone can do to change it. Brother.

[@mamuka815]

just perfect!!!!!

[@Meanace208]

Is Eloise some kind of god ? Is she a multi-versal manager?

[@sandal_thong8631]

I think it more likely that she and Desmond can become "unstuck in time," as the line goes in _Slaughterhouse Five._

[@fabioalvesshow]

Desmond is the best

[@ranz0u]

Ready to boogie.

[@lastpme]

She is not ready to lose her son which is understandable

[@occono3543]

It makes you wonder what they're going into at the end, though, that she didn't want to just go straight there with Daniel.

[@emsleywyatt3400]

So if Eloise was Hawking and Charles was Widmore how did Daniel end up Faraday?

[@kitty_s23456]

Maybe Faraday was a name that she made up, a fictional surname for her son's father? She kept secret her son's existence from the father (Widmore). Also, Faraday was the surname of a physicist (Michael Faraday) - maybe she wanted to use another scientist's name. Her surname is also that of a scientist/ physicist (Stephen Hawking). The name "John Locke" is that of a philosopher - the one who wrote of the concept of "tabula rasa" (blank slate). The character of John Locke made a blank slate/ new life in the island.

[@deldimaboubou3052]

Is Eloise dead too?

[@j.gwells5252]

Everyone dies sometime, the limbo is timeless.

[@deldimaboubou3052]

Thanks!

[@outside7]

Everyone is dead in this "reality". It's the afterworld. But some are still in denial as Eloise seems to be.

[@pnut3844able]

outside7 no she knows exactly what's going on. She just doesn't want to leave this place

[@outside7]

pnut3844able You think? At that point I doubt it. Maybe she suspects something, but she probably doesn't really know like most others at that time. Later when she asks him not to take her son with him, seh knows.

[@thelazyslowmotionlayover1414]

I am lost again 😲😂🐄🤒😳😱🤡👹🤭

[@meelisarukask361]

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[@toxicoparasyte8802]

Shiiiiiiiit I'm lost 😉😂

[@raulbetancourt5795]

So basically nothing of that “life” is real?

[@JabamiLain]

Exactly.

[@raulbetancourt5795]

Bruno Al How? I’m a little slow, explain me

[@JabamiLain]

@@raulbetancourt5795 the purgatory was made to exist out of time, so no matter when you died, for it, it's like you're already there, and it was made to simulate the real world, based on the memories of all those who were allowed to enter there, but in a way that would allow people to either do something they didn't in life, that way erasing any kind of regret they might carry, or kill them there, that way erasing them from existance, or make them stay there forever, not allowing them to go to the after life and find eternal peace. Oh! And I think for

[@raulbetancourt5795]

Bruno Al Basically, they never leave the island

[@JabamiLain]

@@raulbetancourt5795 Kate, Claire, Desmond, Sawyer and Miles did get off the island, while Ben and Hurley stayed back to take care of it. But eventualy, they all died by natural causes, except for Ben and Hurley, since someone has got to replace them so they might die, and went there.

[@pysankar]

I liked her a lot better in The Others.

[@Nflguy4949]

Eloise and Daniel were just nonsense thrown in to add more mystery without any substance. Her appearance and dialogue here makes no sense. This is supposedly the afterlife.

[@snarkmark2806]

She’s AWARE that it’s the afterlife. Most of the time, when that happens, you,set your group, and you move on. She wants to STAY at this way stationof sorts, because Daniel is UNAWARE, and they have a good relationship for the first time EVER. Eloise isn’t spouting nonsense, she’s terrified that Desmond will “wake up” Daniel, who will remember that he pretty much hates her.

[@Haloid855]

imo since all of everyting here being talked about are POV's. This confirmed "Sideways" dimension is NOT the afterlife but rather a simultaneously ran timeline happening at the same PACE of the of island timeline because of this everyone is "not already dead" but rather living completely different lives as different people and due to Desmond and people like Eloise and Jacob (Omniscient being) (Except we see their beginnings) due to them affecting the "normal" way of how things are supposed to happen (like Desmond being only satisficed about Widmore's approval), the island protectors are chosen and forever across timelines being involved in the island bs. -Yea I watched Lost fml

[@BlackWind-rx5il]

This was an alternative dimension they created. In a time where there's a lot of talks about "multiverses" (thanks Marvel), Lost back then enstablished several times that there's not supposed to be alternative realities in Lost's world, because the Universe has "a plan" and it simply will correct itself to stay on course when someone tries to change it. Like Charlie having to die, and trying to stop it simply changes the way he will die. But Faraday in the past understood there was a way to change everything, that people could be the "variables" but they had to do something on a massive scale to actually mess the universe and the flow of time in a way where it couldn't just correct itself...like detonating a hydrogen bomb near a gigantic source of electromagnetic energy. Which alternative Daniel realize it's something he already did. That's why Jack and the gang where moved back in their time, because they were messing with the normal flow of time and the universe found no other way to correct that. At the same time, this new dimension, that's not really anywhere, was created. The Universe had to "split". As Christian says "there's no now here". In this reality, things don't work normally, because it shouldn't exist in the first place. And people here are capable of realizing they're somewhere they shouldn't be and move on from it. But it can represent a second chance for many to do things differently. So in a way, it's a place of redemption, of forgiveness, of moving on.

[@galactic85]

No. It's the afterlife. They make that very clear in the final episode of the show.

[@snarkmark2806]

It is that afterlife. Everyone in the flash sideways is dead. Eloise is terrified that Desmondwill wake-up Daniel, who will then move on just like the main cast in the last episode. She wants Daniel to remain blissfully unaware that he’s dead, because it’s the first time ever that they’ve had a good relationship.

[@samflynn97]

Whoever wrote this scene must be an abusive partner.

[@Jerrycourtney]

🤣

[@nathanknight848]

Good scene although I hate season 6 and never watch it lol

[@kbanghart]

Why do you hate it?

[@asherlevin1762]

@@kbanghart Because he doesn't understand it.

[@abrahamlincoln2741]

@@kbanghart because he is dumb

[@antideus9389]

How can you dislike something you havent watched???

[@maximus-6788]

time, what happend happend... there you go