Every Stage's Origin in Super Smash Bros. (64 & Melee)

[@UltimaShadowX]

You talking about all the updates that happened between the original appearance and Ultimate makes me appreciate them so much more. They didn't just simply bring old stages back, they worked hard to make them visually in line with the latest entries of the respective series.

[@mariajimenafigueroa233]

Except for the N64 stages, which were design to be HD quality versions of their apperance

[@mysteriouscolours1532]

I wish they had bothered remodelling the N64 stages they look really out of place compared to the other stages that aren’t specifically pixel art

[@gameyfirebro9645]

@mysteriouscolours1532 they fixed the inaccuracies in both Mushroom Kingdom (64) and Mushroom Kingdom II.

[@TheAwesomeDarkNinja]

@@mysteriouscolours1532 I wish that so bad too. Shame nostalgia was favored over a remaster.

[@mariajimenafigueroa233]

@@mysteriouscolours1532 I agree

[@Dairunt1]

Something worth adding for Poke Floats, it was originally going to be Sprout Tower from Pokemon Gold and Silver, but because of time constraints, they just put together models from Pokemon Stadium and made a weird stage out of it.

[@Liggliluff]

Kinda explains why it wasn't included in Ultimate, since it wasn't intended to be a proper stage in the first place.

[@maddestmike5791]

Aww, that would've been so much better than just a Pokemon acid trip!

[@bobafett4265]

Man another victim of Melee's tight schedule, would've taken that over the fever dream we got in Melee, I wonder if Poke Floats could return at some point since there is the odd Smash player that likes the Stage.

[@johnnoreau3570]

@@bobafett4265 I am that odd smash player who enjoys that stage 🤣🤣🤣 didn’t know it existed and randomly unlocked it a week or two ago on my GameCube. My friend and I play that map a lot.

[@rabbidguarddog]

I thought the poke floats was based on actual pokemon parades that were held in Japan that have pokemon balloons...

[@shamwow2000]

few details you missed: - in saffron city, the pokemon voices are completely different in ultimate than they were in 64 - in great bay, ultimate adds a piece of heart that is reminiscient of where it is in majora's mask - in corneria, you can find a building featuring general pepper - corneria and venom feature secret taunts for fox and falco involving the rest of the starfox cast talking on radio - flat zone has the falling tools from helmet which can damage other players

[@PaulApollo]

Here's some other details missed on Ultimate's version of Fourside: -If you zoom in on the Monotoli Building, there is a full render of Monotoli's office. Though the furniture inside are a copy-and-paste of the rooms seen on the right-side building, the gold aesthetic matches the source material. -On the right-side building there is an orange Hawaiian shirt and a pair of red sunglasses hanging on a clothesline, resembling the clothes worn by Everdred in Earthbound. -Also on the right-side building is a water tower that resembles a house from Saturn Valley, from the shape of the tower and the bow on the tip of the roof.

[@Superemie401]

@@samanthasaint1235 Who are you?

[@CinnaSwirls]

Adding a Fourside detail. In Melee, the UFO blinks between visible and invisible and then disappears, while in Ultimate it instead makes a noise to signal its departure and then flies away.

[@borisklock1813]

he also forgot to mention the giant ball creature thing in Brinstar

[@CinnaSwirls]

@@borisklock1813 I'm extremely sure that's smash original.

[@kaihedgie1747]

Small correction regarding the sound effect on Mute City. It's actually from the original F-Zero on the SNES and plays whenever you finish a lap Also small tidbit: Sector Z's first appearance was in the original Star Fox

[@murraymurphy85]

The thing everyone misses about the Mario stage in 64 is that it's based on the layout of a Pinball table.

[@craiglanyon7752]

It looks like a part of the stage, Whomp’s fortress

[@aeroblu2002]

A fun piece of trivia about Pokefloats is that all the models of those Pokemon are straight up from the Stadium games. In fact, every single model of every Pokemon apart from the fighters are from Stadium as well.

[@metricAsc02]

a point worth noting, the colours and the sprites in background elements and overall layout from the 64 version of Mushroom Kingdom comes from the all stars version of super mario bros and super mario bros: the lost levels (JP mario bros 2) from the SNES.

[@thecosplaycrafter8017]

As much of a fever dream as Poké Floats was, I wish it were back in Ultimate because it was always my favourite stage in Melee.

[@japaneseextremme3811]

Agreed, such a fun stage ought to be in Ultimate

[@peluquin98]

Maybe it was hard for the designers to make it playable for 8 players I have the though that they also could't come with a "propper" desing for the omega and battlefield forms. I had lots of fun in that stage with my friends spending time to unlock mewtwo

[@thevenom2731]

​@@peluquin98they could have some generic platforms in the sky with the balloons in the background.

[@georgspielberger9780]

25:12 Best example being Pit. His model from Brawl was a perfect inspiration for Kid Icarus Uprising as the last time we saw our angel boy was on the gameboy where he looked cartoony.

[@jasminejohnston6393]

Fun fact: If you use the Pokémon Trainer on Rainbow Cruise in Super Smash Bros Brawl, the trainer will appear on his own magic carpet, but the carpet is in the background so it isn’t a platform

[@kirbyofthestarsfan]

The reason Mushroom Kingdom II is called that actually stems from the fact the japanese name of it is Ancient Kingdom II, matching Ancient Kingdom which is how the Mushroom Kingdom stage is called, just for being retro So it's a mistranslation

[@michelangelo7532]

Duel Zone is so edgy and I love it! It's so fitting for the dark aesthetic of the first two games' battlefield.

[@markgarrison7722]

It's worth noting that the Poke Floats stage almost certainly directly inspired the final battle sequence in Detective Pikachu the movie which featured a fight on very similar massive Pokemon parade floats, and even clouds of brightly colored gas down below.

[@dialaforawesome]

And the stage itself was likely inspired by the island of giant pokemon from the anine

[@davidvkimball]

No. The stage is Pokémon Subspace, Floats was just a weird English translation choice.

[@smartboy201]

@@davidvkimball Not weird at all; it was chosen due to the Pokemon-platforms in it resembling parade floats with not only their size, but how they "float" into and around the stage.

[@davidvkimball]

@@smartboy201 I still think that's a strange choice. The localisation team basically ignored the direct translation of the Japanese stage name and came up with their own despite Sakurai's intention for it haha

[@smartboy201]

@@davidvkimball To be fair, what 14-yo is gonna look up what a "Subspace" is? Hell, they'd just assume it's somehow related to Brawl once they saw the name of Brawl's campaign of "The Subspace Emissary"... "So where're the giant Pokemon at? I saw a Rayquaza, where's the rest of them?"

[@Terra_Volted]

Something worth mentioning The Bridges shown in peach’s castle are broken, which is refrencing the broken bridges in cool cool mountain that teleport you

[@el_zinga]

I really miss Mute City and Poke Floats, they were just my favorite stages.

[@miguelgarces8946]

You don't need to miss Mute City. It is much more common in the F-Zero series.

[@smashmaster521]

@@miguelgarces8946 Yeah, but Nintendo isn't bringing F-Zero back any time soon, unfortunately.

[@miguelgarces8946]

@@smashmaster521 What if you fan-made your own F-Zero game? I'm planning to do that to for the Wii.

[@smashmaster521]

@@miguelgarces8946 I don't know how to make an F-Zero game! With that said, I wish you luck on your F-Zero fangame.

[@wussup12345]

@@miguelgarces8946 yeah hold on bro let me just make a game real quick

[@Chernobog2]

I like how most of the stages in 64 and Melee (and a few from Brawl like Castle Siege and Lylat Cruise) have a more abstract feel to them and represent the idea of the series they represent rather than a specific or iconic location

[@Moon-nk3co]

Very clever, I liked the idea behind learning more of the home series stages of the fighters.

[@Klonoahedgehog]

Kind of a silly idea, most stages are either a tutorial stage or an endgame stage. Unless its Saffron city which kinda sticks out.

[@mattwo7]

@@Klonoahedgehog Well it is in line with most fighting games where every character has their own stage and leitmotif that plays on said stage. Like the US Air Force Base in SF2 where the infamous Guile's theme debuted and where Guile is fought in arcade mode. Course more recent fighting games don't always have characters sticking to to their home stages in singple-player modes, especially with the advent of story modes in fighting games where the opposing characters often move around through the course of the story and sometimes the heroes going together have to fight each other.

[@mattwo7]

We've gone from bots putting comments into a blender to bots using the wrong language, who are these meant to fool?

[@jameswallace3439]

It's a shame that PokéFloats didn't return from Super Smash Bros. Melee. Making the stage exclusive to Melee. I really enjoyed that stage.

[@thescaletblur07]

it’s legit the best casual stage lmao

[@RyutheWeredragon]

THe stage's collisons were a mess, apparently.

[@albertthepeacock8020]

It's even worse when they couldn't bring back the stage and update the stage to include 3-7 gen Pokémon

[@jameswallace3439]

@@albertthepeacock8020 No wonder I saw Pokémon from generations 1 and 2 when I played PokéFloats in Melee.

[@albertthepeacock8020]

@@jameswallace3439 had to update comment because original had a typo

[@Valnanailo]

Something not mentioned is that the Klaptraps in the DK levels, if you're hit by a red one in at least later games (Ultimate being my go to), you will get spiked

[@aurafox1]

The "lego blocks" are more accurately a reference to the iron blocks that fall from the walls inside the volcano in Lethal Lava Land. Additionally, the tower is a reference to Whomp's Fortress, the trees are snowless versions of the ones from Cool Cool Mountain (I don't remember if they appear anywhere without snow), and I wanna say the moving block is based on a platform from Lethal Lava Land's texture with behavior from a yellow platform used in Bowser in the Dark World.

[@strikingjam9521]

What’s next? Every Item’s Origin in Super Smash Bros?

[@s-wo8781]

Yes please

[@waypastcoolkid]

In Mushroom Kingdom 64, the Piranha Plant being red means that it’s from The Lost Levels/SMB2JP, as the only ones in SMB1 were all green

[@Viichan777]

Really wish ultimate had a stage dlc pack with all missing levels, especially planet zebes, sector z and poke floats

[@novaspacewitch9963]

3DS Rainbow Road would have been so good in Ultimate

[@QUOTING_NOTHING]

This will be the series ever

[@sammy.lul1492]

I wish he would finish the other series before staring new ones

[@bondwiththebroccoli1291]

What?

[@rru12.]

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[@BitchChill]

Can this meme die alredy?

[@octanproductions6492]

@@BitchChill No,

[@christopheredwards788]

Another great series 😁. Can't wait

[@YMangaka]

25:10 "the design of fountain of dreams from smash was later used in Kirby games. its always neat when smash influences games" Well, DUH ! the guy who made smash is the same who created Kirby.

[@PhoeniksStorm]

Interestingly, though is that in the original Mushroom Kingdom (64) stage in Smash 64 the koopas in the back a green koopas but in the Ultimate remake they are changed to red koopas. Since they're supposed to walk back and forth which green koopas don't, they fall off, just like lemmings

[@CrusifoxMedia]

Always love the Fighting Polygon Team's theme song. It's my phone's ringtone :P

[@MattFrost224]

The Green Greens stage in Melee also has stacking stars blocks, which is a reference to Kirby's Star Stacker, a game from the Game Boy era.

[@TheTrueMasterOfTomfoolery]

Those actually come from a section in the Great Cave Offensive.

[@Artista_Frustrado]

- not gonna lie i like the smaller details from Planet Zebes more than Brinstar - not mini Boss, Kraid is one of the main 3 bosses of Metroid 1 - yeah Smash takes HEAVY Inspiration from the Pokemon anime rather than the games, which is why Golden uses Splash instead of Magikarp and why Jigglypuff is playable to begin with

[@NataliaNeeSama]

Maybe you could shown how the stages look like in Ultimate? Even if the difference is just better graphics, it's still fun to see a comparation.

[@mariajimenafigueroa233]

Fountain of Dreams looks prettier

[@anibalhyrulesantihero7021]

Agreed! Fountain of Dreams looks so beautiful. 🌈🌠🌌

[@QrazyQuarian]

I would like to add that the Poke Floats actually did make an appearance in Detective Pikachu, and were no-doubt inspired by this stage in Melee.

[@bowserknight]

Aww I was hoping you'd mention the big brain thing in the background of Brinstar in Melee. I never understood what that thing is. It looks like it's supposed to be Mother Brain, but if it was, it looks very off. Mother Brain usually has a big glaring eye at the front, spikes and resides in a glass container. It also doesn't have that big vein thing at the bottom like the one in Melee, or the yellow bubbles when it's shaking around. I can't remember anything in the Metroid games that looks like that brain in Melee. It literally just looks like a generic brain, but not Mother Brain.

[@somethingsomething7903]

bit late but in both kongo jungle and jungle japes you can see vultures in the background at times, these are called neckies and you can see them in various stages in the trilogy kongo jungle 64 also recieved an updated skybox in melee that's slightly notable as what appears to be donkey kong's treehouse can be seen towards the left

[@midi5467]

21:09 there is a Chozo statue in Super Metroid that carries Samus if she Morph Balls in its hand. This is what I thought is referenced here

[@hiddenscorpiusXI]

17:50 Additionally, the actual DK64 stage doesn't resemble the Smash stage at all 21:44 What is the big, round thing in the background? It' wiggles and shakes when the acid touches it, so it is alive, but what is it? 30:21 The models look like they were shifted straight from Pokemon Stadium 1/2, specially with Onyx's spinning middle section, just one of the many weird liberties the animation team for the series had. Additionally, the stage could be a reference to the 2001 Macy's thanksgiving day parade where they had floats representing the franchise with a giant Pikachu Balloon.

[@rainbowrunner1550]

Something else worth mentioning about Saffron City: Obviously, the stage is set atop Silph Co., indicating an obvious reference to the games. There are of course plenty of skyscrapers in the background. While there really aren't any skyscrapers besides Silph Co. in the games, there are several skyscrapers which make up Saffron City's skyline in the anime. Therefore, it's likely that the Saffron City stage took some inspiration from the anime as well as the games.

[@adrian_hook]

Genuinely never realized that Yoshi’s Island from Melee was based on SMW despite SMW being the first video game I ever played and Melee being my first smash 😅

[@Hayatehiroyuki25]

The way you said "That's Kraid" at 22:00 sounds like you're introducing your significant other to your room mates

[@marshmellowyellow482]

Very cool. Keep up the good work

[@luigifaniac1312]

5:52 actually there is a slight change in function for N64 Mushroom Kingdom, the pipes aren't as spammable in Ultimate, when you use them once ya got to wait abit before using them again.

[@Xgp_15A2]

Im glad someone is actually talking about references in the stages rather then the characters

[@MirrorRiker]

He forgot to mention that the Onett stage takes its inspiration largely from the game Rain Shower from the Game and Watch series of games

[@FamouslyRandom]

Aarontimar your the only person I know that will make smash bros entrance reference

[@blu3g]

I heard "Zebes is the planet that Metroid..." at 3:36 and was terrified for a split second that he accidentally messed up Samus' name

[@oofley8346]

25:07 the fountain of dreams and the inclusion of marth and roy in this game, iirc, were put there as a kind of ad(?) for the upcoming releases of kirby nightmare in dreamland and fire emblem the binding blade

[@squibbb5480]

im surprised you didnt mention the detail added later on to Dream Land where if you play as or fight against Dedede he wont show up in the background

[@mikeberg6407]

Down to the smallest detail! Zooms in on giant grundy face and not the barely visible object in waterfall.

[@MG64OdysseyProductions]

You're videos are pretty good and I have some ideas for some spirit battles and Classic modes that you might like

[@randomnerdontheinternet967]

9:25 Soo true! This is one of my pet peeves with Smash

[@psiforce8342]

you missed out certain other new elements that's been done to Fourside in Ultimate - the overall design of Fourside in Ultimate now resembles a lot more closely to New York City than in Melee - the redesign of the Monotoli Building now has a translucent window where you can see a gold room, which is actually the office of Monotoli, you can have a clearer look of the office when you zoom in. - the right side building now has a shack on top with a clothesline with an orange Hawaiian shirt and sunglasses, the same clothes worn by Everdred. You can say that it's Everdred's shack, though his shack is in Twoson in EarthBound. However, Everdred did go to Fourside in order to attempt to steal the Mani Mani Statue. - the UFO used to simply just blink and disappear after a certain time in Melee. Now in Ultimate, instead of just blinking and disappearing afterwards, the same UFO sounds from the EarthBound intro plays out in intervals with the green light on the bottom of the UFO blinking with the sound, indicating a countdown for the UFO where when it finishes its countdown, it'll zoom back into the background & then fly away into space (flying up into the moon) Worth to point out that of the Melee stages that returned in Ultimate, Fourside had the biggest design overhaul

[@anibalhyrulesantihero7021]

Ultimate Fourside looks really cool.

[@erickzuniga8571]

Big blue has elements from f-zero x, just do the adventure mode, and look at the background

[@MathematicalVoid]

The blocks in the Princess Peach's Castle stage do have exclamation marks on them before you hit them. There are yellow houses with red roofs in Onett in EarthBound.

[@OstianOwl]

"It's always kind of neat when Smash influences future games based on its representation of their series." Wario Land-era Wario fans: "Is it though?"

[@desantos288]

I've been hoping for this series!!!

[@mimizuworm]

AARON'S GETTING TOO STRONG, NEXT HE'LL PREDICT THE FUTURE OF SMASH

[@alysshart7522]

What a blast from the past! I completely forgot that trippy PokeFloat stage.

[@DrMadd]

Not sure if this was ever confirmed but it’s rumoured that the ending of the film Detective Pikachu was inspired by Pokéfloats with Pikachu and Mewtwo battling on top of a variety of Pokémon balloons.

[@craiglanyon7752]

There is a picture of Death mountain in the background for Hyrule Castle, along with Hyrule Field’s map reference.

[@ken-kenperez1465]

I hope you can make videos about all victory poses on SSB4, and SSBU in your next videos.

[@6scar911]

Idk if it is, but isn't Mother Brain in the background of the Brinstar Melee stage?

[@AnderreBelmont]

That Buzzy Beetle is living their best life.

[@kailiahmoon]

I like these kinds of videos. Also maybe you could do Daisy's third eye Easter egg. And the DK Rap from Melee is better

[@andreworders7305]

4:41 the Pirahna plants are actually taken from the Lost Levels

[@stormRed]

As a fan who's never played melee it's kind of surreal to see it in a casual context.

[@spongeintheshoe]

What's really crazy is that any indication that those giant Pokémon are parade balloons was added in localization. In the original Japanese version, that stage was called "Pokémon Subspace."

[@andreworders7305]

24:44 it’s the same devs so, word of god, this is just an official redesign

[@arcticdragon3565]

13:43 They do kinda remind me of the buildings in the Sunken Town in Wet-Dry world. Or the beta Zelda 64 Hyrule Castle Town buildings.

[@BASEDSAKRI]

I had 64 as a kid in 99 and have never heard about the unlockable mushroom kingdom stage. mind blown!

[@bowserknight]

I always found it weird how Melee Corneria has the music of the original Venom level on SNES, while Melee Venom has the normal Starfox theme and sounds much calmer. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Venom is normally the more chaotic of the levels. Not that I complain, I've just always found it funny.

[@theonlybilge]

14:31 IT BEGINS

[@toonstarfreak]

You forgot to mention the Necky vultures that’s in the background of Kongo Jungle

[@patte5306]

Awesome video, i thought i'd know most of these and yet there was so much cool stuff i missed, btw i was minging some of your content and i wanted to let you know that the classic mode origin playlist is missing the compilation.

[@Minija456]

33:32 that Magenta car definitely has to be a reimagined version of Wario's car from Wario Land 4.

[@brittanyykitty]

I swear i just found this video and I’ve already watched it a million times

[@mrdasjo]

This might be a HUGE stretch, but I believe that the Poke Floats stage is a light reference to the ending of the Mewtwo Strikes Back movie, where there pokemon are all floating through the skies of Kanto.

[@XshXD]

You missed the fact that the platform in Final Destination from SSB64 is an aztec calendar. And Dreamland stage's style in SSB64 is based entirely in Kirby's Dreamland 3 Whispy Woods stage

[@sonicmario64]

The floating barrels in Donkey Kong's stages are called Barrel Cannons, BTW.

[@cboss5665]

24:40 the reflection in the water makes me cry

[@alexandru18]

33:26 they can also jump up chick back whip around and spin!

[@marplatense31]

This is what I've been waiting for!

[@A_Different_Name]

I've honestly saw the background of Poke Floats as being loosely based off of Rainbow Cloud, an area in Pokemon Snap where Mew is found.

[@Thndrstrike]

There's also blue tornados in the Satellaview Zelda 1 game, which don't throw you upward, but do drag you off the screen

[@christianparrish3292]

Stage origins? That's an idea!

[@nicholaslogan6840]

Pretty sure the creative direction behind Smash and Kirby is connected, and it might be more reasonable to suggest that the Kirby guy(s) reimagined the fountain in smash first, but weren't 'inspired' by it or whatever. They just took an opportunity to make what they wanted, then kept doing that when working on the primary IP as well.

[@riftshredder5438]

Nice video, I've always wondered the origins of those stages, however, you left out the stages that were only featured in the single player Adventure mode in Melee

[@StarryScribbles]

I have the temple theme from melee as my ringtone so I thought I was getting a call lolol I love the song so much ahhh

[@_h1ghl4nd3r]

Yes! thanks for finally doing this!

[@GamerFunOriginallyAarush]

Oh my goodness!

[@Soma_Shotgun]

Mushroom Kingdom 64 pretty much did the whole retro throwback nostalgia thing before it was cool.

[@BHH71700]

Finally......been waiting for this one

[@The4thSnake]

What would a Pokefloats Omega version look like?

[@Klonoahedgehog]

I always figured they would stick an Avalug model there and be done with it lol

[@mariajimenafigueroa233]

Or a Battlefield version

[@unisangalaxystudio]

Fourside Melee looks like New York Fourside Ultimate looks like Shinjuku

[@revtengu178]

i can't wait for the next part

[@smashmaster521]

One detail about Dream Land 64 post-Melee; If King Dedede is one of the fighters involved, he won't show up in the background.

[@catriamflockentanz]

9:44 Wait, what Devil rode them? A single-player exclusive Stage and they had the audacity to call it _Duel_ Zone? 14:56 Nobody knew that Subcon was Subcon back then? So people couldn't read Instruction Booklets in the 80ties & 90ties? That's a wild claim.

[@jooleus_is_here]

I love getting tears of the kingdom ad as my ad

[@Sleeepy.]

25:10 that's because Sakurai is also the creator of Kirby

[@vgbcp3rs0na41]

I wish you could slide underneath the cars in Ultimate like in melee

[@MRpekk]

this is what I've been waiting for