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[@LastNightDestiny]

Destiny And Aba Argue About The Fresh N Fit Babymama Confrontation ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpeVdX6goZySbqc

[@Yonnireed0101]

This fresh shows the Lack of relationship experience your fans have they didn’t know about ovulation cycles

[@Tugboat_Teddy]

Question: when I was in the Germany and Korea I had heard at my briefings before the weekend that escorts have "handlers" So my question is would a handler let a female take 4 to 6 months to get pregnant? Why not move on to a different mark?

[@Cannon952]

Wrong link

[@brownbettyviews]

Come through, Destiny! 🤣

[@blablabla7796]

"Call me emotional I'll knock you out" spoken like a true non-emotional person.

[@harrytruman215]

The problem is that we live in this soft-ass era where people think they can say whatever because they're online. You have to be of a certain age to understand if you got something to say, you better say it in person as well.

[@alexharris2495]

Damn right ​@@harrytruman215

[@NipNem69]

@@harrytruman215imagine being so soft you let letters online make you want to commit a crime haha just close your eyes

[@Woolwoven]

@@harrytruman215u really think fit doesnt know that?

[@thepowerofmyth]

😂

[@xTheLindix]

"go and meet me in person and call me an emotional person one more time and get knocked out" - unemotional person

[@z0mbiej0e34]

My first though emotionally yelling that he would respond emotionally if called emotional lmao.

[@sivannatalie]

Had the same reaction. He can’t even stop being emotional for long enough to lie about being emotional

[@PicaPauDiablo1]

He's not knocking anyone out

[@limitbreak2966]

Lmao exactly. My reaction too was like “wow bro sooo manly, you attack people who disagree with you or slightly “insult” you. so tough”. And also like “go ahead and they will call the cops on you for assault” 🤣 like Myron is such a fucking clown

[@franklingoodwin]

Nobody is scared of Myron like that lol. They'd probably laugh at how emotional he is, and he'd cry.

[@mikeb.7845]

Jesus Christ, Destiny can NEVER admit he's wrong. Such Hasanism. Little Aba will be a beautiful baby.

[@jcnot9712]

Aba Preach Daisy 😂

[@rdg7250]

Even Hasan does it before Destiny

[@lumayne8829]

You clearly haven't watched the entire video lmao you commented this 10 minutes after it's release

[@kristianbasile7141]

Bruh how is Destiny wrong on this? Like he is usually wrong on fp but his drama takes are on point.

[@deepakkc555]

Nope he's definitely wrong. Please watch aba interview of her(btw i thought from the start she was in the right cause I am asain and I know how moody they are)​@@kristianbasile7141

[@rorisang8602]

Destiny is the same person who said Lav is smart, Melina is mature and that he would trust Brittany Simon's with his bank details.

[@narutofan4545]

Tbh bdp doesn't make you steal

[@ontheright2482]

So you think his political takes are more stable than his vibes about girls?

[@bokajon]

He is a horrible judge of character.

[@anubis7457]

@@ontheright2482 Presumably, his politics aren't influenced by being horny for Trump or Biden (could be wrong though).

[@regor2081]

He will also die on the sneako being a smart confused boy.

[@fyngolnoldor4891]

10:15 Destiny isn't biased because he's friends with Myron, he's biased because he's a fuckboy himself and being baby trapped is also something he fears and cautiously avoids.

[@anap1680]

>yeah I contacted a lawyer 3 days after I found out I was pregnant >Yeah I recorded voice calls in secret before anything >Oh when did I find out I was pregnant? I kept taking pregnancy tests after having fresh nut in me >If he ever changed would.i let him into my tick- I mean sons life? Lol no >Did I fall on love with fresh in just 3 months, pfft yeah I did, totally >Also I can't legally work so give me my child support 😊

[@dxshawn532]

​Lets just ignore that he was telling her he loved her, introduced her to his family lets just ignore everything else.

[@anap1680]

@@dxshawn532 and let's ignore the obvious gold digging

[@narutofan4545]

Really genuinely don't care. Her body her choice but if the man is literally telling you NO I DON'T WANT THE BABYthen it's literally your fault if you decide to have it and end up with an absent father,

[@taylormade9748]

@@anap1680where’s the obvious gold digging

[@SmilingAzaleaFlower-kw3eh]

Fresh is the name of an absent baby father

[@NicholasW943]

Debbie dad

[@spencerrichmond5845]

Bro just proving the stereotypes correct

[@kc_h7h]

I don't think he's gonna be absent. Especially because he's super rich and is famous. He's gonna despise the mom but is gonna provide for the kid

[@zekulir6419]

@@kc_h7h So tired of people thinking that throwing money at others is in any way a replacement for being physically present and putting in direct effort.

[@AltairTheLegend]

@@kc_h7h Being a present father and being financially responsible for a child are completely different things.

[@perfectiondreamusa]

20:20 this part is bizarrely uncharitable, it’s obvious that when she said “what are you gonna do to me” that was language barrier and she meant what are you gonna do for/about me because she immediately clarified right after and asked “what are you gonna do about this situation”

[@JK-sz1xy]

Exactly I don’t know how people don’t see that

[@Bro-dot-]

@@JK-sz1xy they just don’t put in context her English is fairly broken.

[@SeyidAr]

Just as a reminder, he called her a "disgusting subhuman piece of shit" with the little information he had. My man still hasn't recovered from getting shit on for his divorce. He is just letting off steam.

[@arcanearcher13]

I thought the same thing

[@dalminehoff8985]

I was shocked he acted so unhinged towards someone hasn't personally wronged him. Dude needs to get riled up for half an hour before he gives that kind of energy to lav

[@JohnStockton7459]

She is still that by the way, this changes nothing, Desiny and Fresh are in the right here.

[@alexd4566]

It’s so obvious that he has deep-seated frustrations originating from his past relationships. Guy needs to seek therapy.

[@SeyidAr]

@@JohnStockton7459 She's a subhuman piece of shit? My man, i don't think he's even called Max that. The only other person he talks about like this is Hasan.

[@GemmaHutchison-ld9sh]

Why have the evidence that he knew she wanted a baby and you're still calling it baby trapping? I can't take this seriously anymore I'm clocking out.

[@michaelh878]

Him knowing about the trap doesn't make it a trap?

[@perfectiondreamusa]

@@michaelh878 yes? do you know what a trap is?

[@0redfr0g0]

​@@michaelh878Aba and Preach said it best "If I swing at you and miss, but I tell you 'next time I'm going to hit you.' And you say 'whatever makes you happy' it's not a sucker punch."

[@FlightX101]

@@michaelh878 Yes. So he knew there was a "trap" and he still chose to walk into it willingly? If that's the case then he is simply a dumbass then

[@michaelh878]

@@0redfr0g0 If I think you are joking and there is a good reason for that then of course it is still a sucker punch.

[@rozzaziobrown6515]

"I don't know a lot of Chinese people like that" was such a hilarious thing to say. It's a country of over a billion people.

[@TheZimbeatz]

Tells you how much you know. Chinese families are conservative especially if she comes from a rich family as she claims. No wonder you goofs always get finessed by these thots

[@jcnot9712]

It reminds me of whenever he sees a black immigrant (specially west African) he immediately assumes they’re wealthy because the few he’s met in Florida are rich. One of the most diverse group of immigrants in terms of socioeconomic status and he reduces it to his already lower than average real life experience.

[@pimpnamedslickback7780]

Destiny would rather be raked over hot coal than admit when he was wrong

[@Ilovecheesecakebaby]

right lmfaoooo

[@JohnStockton7459]

He wasnt wrong? Aba and Preach are known for hating FNF, theyre jumping on this situation and spreading lies. That woman is cancer, fresh is just dumb.

[@DadsCigaretteRun]

At least it can be fun to watch 😂

[@HARwinsOUTagain]

What is he wrong about? We have halfassed text messages that we don’t know where they actually came from and an iffy at best “interview” with Aba and Tree where she didn’t seem genuine one bit in either conversation.

[@rinkohorowitz]

@@HARwinsOUTagainSo your rebuttal to this is that she “didn’t seem genuine” which I’m sure is based on your feelings and not a logical assessment. She is most likely telling the truth. Fresh is a habitual liar so it’s funny that he is being taken seriously but that is literally what male privilege is.

[@frankjiang1857]

Destiny f*ed up here. He gave no charitability to the woman and made a TON of disparaging comments straight to her when he had no information except for "feels." He didn't even say things like "I could be wrong" when he made comments about her when she was there. Considering his behavior before with previous drama (Pokimane, Andrew Tate, etc.), I don't think we can say anything other than Destiny got a big L on this. To be fair to him, I think he was triggered when she said she wouldn't let Fresh in the baby's life even if he wanted to be. But everything since he heard that, he's been trying to shoehorn her into the gold-digger category and ignoring evidence that she actually might have been super naive and emotional at the time.

[@frankjiang1857]

Also, he keeps saying "I don't have the context." Yeah, no sh!t, that's why you shouldn't go hard on someone when you DON'T have that context.

[@KingstonHawke]

He always does this. Remember when Mr Girl was his friend Mr Girl wasn’t a rapist at all even though he admitted to rape. It was all a big metaphorical statement. And then when the friendship ended, Destiny immediately started calling Mr. Girl a rapist with no new information. He likes Fresh and hates bimbos, that’s all this comes down to.

[@sillysillysillybilly]

Nah. He got triggered when she said “who are you” “I don’t know who you are” lil bro let his ego get to him

[@TheMatchingTree]

@@sillysillysillybilly this stood out to me too

[@perfectiondreamusa]

@@sillysillysillybilly imagine someone who you actually have never interacted with joins a reasonable polite call and starts attacking and screaming that you are a vile disgusting monster and God(whom he does not believe in) will judge you. no wonder she hit him with the who tf are you get out if my face

[@pjharper2643]

... Small man being a projecting hypocrite for an hour and 12 minutes straight. "You guys keep making assumptions about pretty serious things because you're all virgins! Now excuse me while I make baseless speculation based on 'vibes' while demeaning my audience for doing the same!"

[@NewMojo71]

Destiny is so clueless when he's being biased. Plus he has all these simps always telling him he's right

[@narutofan4545]

But he's had a bunch of superficial relationships he definitely knows what he's talking bout

[@nathanmitchell7961]

I think its fair to say Destiny has more interpersonal experience in relationships than the average Dgger, i think its that experience that allows the critism.

[@thegamingkitchen8429]

You mean the two time divorced absent father?​@@nathanmitchell7961

[@novinnovations4026]

​@@nathanmitchell7961 nah dawg. Experience doesn't excuse hypocrisy, especially when he's doing the literal thing he's belittling his chat for.

[@jaym.7620]

Bro he literally said “I didn’t wanna pull out anyways”. How can you say he wasn’t down for a baby…… stop being a weasel tiny. It’s ok to get more information and change ur opinion.

[@wisemage0]

Ah yes, every man's favourite part of sex: pulling out.

[@blackhat4206]

The very next line “it’s good that you got your period” implies the exact opposite, though. If not for that bit, I would wholeheartedly agree with your point.

[@Doggo954]

hes literally saying he doesnt want a baby and even says in one text something about how they had talked about this and agreed that a child right now wouldnt be good for them and that they both thought she couldn't get pregnant... I love the blinders you guys put on just because you don't like this red piller.

[@jadenj.4753]

Yeah I can imagine his reply being something else, not agreeing makw her being pregnant. Mf was gonna ask for her to take a pill 9.9/10 times lol

[@dalminehoff8985]

He literally kept busting inside her bro. What did he expect to happen

[@Jay_490]

He’s moving the goal post he literally said to aba he would need to see text messages saying I love you etc. for him to believe this isn’t a trap.

[@kenzistar1569]

That part. He totally said the just the other day 😂

[@gpcarnage4881]

How does this change anything? Destiny never said she was a baby trapper and also called Fresh an idiot for doing what he did. It still doesn't change what she said in the discord call. It was all about her, "her" baby, and money. Sure, these leaks put her in a better light, but both of them are still terrible people.

[@killakam5993]

@@gpcarnage4881he literally called her a gold digging baby trapper. That was his whole debate with aba, defining what a baby trapper is

[@snusnu39]

@@gpcarnage4881 He did say it was a trap, did you listen to the stream where he called her subhuman? He was saying it's about money. Destiny at some point, I believe, is going to admit he is wrong.

[@Suckko]

@@gpcarnage4881 What are you on about? Destiny has called her a babytrapper this entire time. What fucking video are you watching? lmaooo

[@franklingoodwin]

Copestiny would rather call his fans all a bunch of virgins with no relationship experience than admit he might have been wrong on this one. And it's even worse that you let him get away with it.

[@kentjohnson2243]

He's not wrong . But also He is being a contrarion against his clearly bias audience.

[@nsbdbsbsbdbzbz8555]

When are theese people going to understand ”destiny” is dumb

[@wisemage0]

Aba simps would rather run defense for an escort weaponizing her unplanned pregnancy, instead of admit that Walter was wronged.

[@snoopyco07]

Bruh...it's not that serious

[@dxshawn532]

​@@kentjohnson2243And he isn't biased? He is giving Walter an INSANE amount of charitability.

[@ShadowKosmos]

This is the most biased, ridiculous take ive heard from Destiny like... in years. Clearly his friendship with F&F is SUPER clouding his judgement... because with the evidence that has now been revealed and socumented by Daisy and shown by Aba, i dont think theres anyone who can look at said evidence in good faith and NOT see Fresh as the one in thw wrong and not Daisy. To keep calling this girl a babytrapper is so ridiculous. I mean the girl LITERALLY straight up says in the texts, "hey if you keep busting in me raw, ima get pregnant..." and not only does Fresh acknowledge that, but he replies he knows that and is OK with her having his babies. In what world is that babytrapping?! Destiny... bro. Youre TRIPPING. This girl didnt have ill intent. Thats not what i/we get from her... but even if i play devils advocate and say that she did... how does that matter when she TOLD HIM what would happen if continued doing what he was doing? Thats on him. Shed be a HORRIBLE finesser lol. Telling her plans? What? 😂

[@michaelh878]

Why did she want a child with him? You really think she loved him that much and suddenly hates him?

[@Jm-dx9tl]

@@michaelh878yep

[@DaFifaKid]

what why do you think any of that disproves that she tried to trap him??

[@Suckko]

@@DaFifaKid for something to be a babytrap. It needs to be without the other persons consent and it needs to happen under deceitful conditions. Its literally that simple. Bro was TOLD it was going to happen, so it wasn't deceitful, and he gave his full consent by busting inside and telling her he was fine with it. You are genuinely ill, people like you refuse to hold men accountable for their own fucking actions, instead choosing to blame the woman.

[@follding948]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@stbsole]

The bigger issue is the fact Walter engaged in unprotected sex with multiple girls and didn’t expect this to happen at all. Why is that not being talked about how a man like this is helping in creating these women that they attack on their podcast.

[@user-dq3xw9cv3e]

Also he's a man which means he has zero reproductive rights. He's behaving like he has the female privilege of just killing the inconvenient result of his irresponsible actions. Consequences are a mans burden.

[@Bora_TalksTV]

Men are allergic to being accountable. If they can blame a woman for their bad behaviour, they will.

[@Oldhandlewasabitcringe]

Im beginning to think he might actually have a mental disability

[@FaLLeN3421]

Because Destiny wants the invite to their podcast whenever…. clearly.

[@stbsole]

@@FaLLeN3421 lol I don’t see the point with how the manosphere is clearly imploding on itself

[@josayo8919]

The double standards from Mr Destiny on what cannot and should not be inferred is slapping me on my face

[@jcnot9712]

He plays fast and loose with it. What’s funny is his whole motto is supposed to be to question everything and articulate your own worldview, but he’s built this fanbase of sheep who’re in lockstep with whatever he says no matter how absurd. They’re even bigger bots than the redpill followers somehow.

[@kenzistar1569]

Fit did a podcast saying she has a rich family . So fit is lying because they didn’t ship her to America? You are saying so many things to fit your narrative bro

[@beewest5704]

Yeah she proved to Aba she is from a wealthy family.

[@follding948]

🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@Plebus3]

all those debates against the redpill rubbed off on him, bro is on that redpill rage

[@shareefkillings5343]

He's been getting his ass kicked all year

[@simeonnewman7639]

@@shareefkillings5343all year?

[@Classikh]

@@simeonnewman7639 He thinks he's wrong here so he must have been wrong all year

[@porter9494]

@@shareefkillings5343 Huh? Destiny won every single debate this year.

[@winning3329]

Red pill rage? That sounds emotional

[@kenzistar1569]

Its ok to be wrong about things. There are so many topics Destiny is twisting himself into a pretzel to be right. To say you dont even get fuck boy vibes. L

[@michaelh878]

I think he really liked her and then Myron and them convinced him that she was not long term relationship material.

[@natediaz1863]

But fresh is a virgin. How can he be a f boy?

[@jayro792]

Exactly, how can he have such a staunch take on what he believes to be the case but when others say the adverse take he’s like you need more context/ more information / more evidence etc ??? Why doesn’t he apply the same to his take then.

[@Doggo954]

If this is fuck boy vibes you are a virgin and will never know a fuck boy lmaoo

[@xMorbidArtx]

Nothing wrong with being a fuckboy.

[@coloneljlol]

destiny proving the autism accusations accurate

[@jcnot9712]

-He said he didn’t mind having a baby. -Is that how you read this?!?!? I had to stop watching here. This isn’t even stubbornness at this point he’s just straight being dishonest and bad faith.

[@goddessrick8734]

​@@jcnot9712 This woman admitted to being warned about Fresh constantly, said her minimum for a man is 1 millions and said even if Fresh apologized and wanted to be a father she only wants financial support. She also knew he was sleeping with other women. She's either way into the spectrum or she's gold digger. There's no way she didn't know he wasn't looking to be a father.

[@simbabwe2907]

@@goddessrick8734 not realy watch thevinterview between her and aba. I dont take everything seriously when a woman hates a man. They become inconstistent. She obviously still likes fresh.

[@jcnot9712]

@@goddessrick8734 you’re going around copy-pasting that at everyone even if it has nothing to do with what they said. Take a break, hop off destiny’s meat and go outside. You might learn to think for yourself then.

[@MrWolfy08]

@@simbabwe2907 I don't understand why people want to pick sides; both things can be true. Fresh is an idiot and we all know it, and in my opinion, the girl seems to be smarter than him.

[@kennybowens4983]

This is by far the weirdest destiny arc I get that he knows him and he not a huge fan of the insta girls but his die hard defense like she hunted him down and forced him to have a baby lol

[@wisemage0]

...and nobody pinned her down and forced her to not use contraceptives. Yet all of the comments are pretending it's the 1940s and birth control pills haven't been invented yet.

[@KingstonHawke]

Yeah, it’s super weird that Destiny added out of nowhere that he thinks she knew who Fresh was in advance. And that because she travels she’s not culturally Chinese.

[@user-dq3xw9cv3e]

Well destiny is just defending mens reproductive rights. He doesn't want the baby..

[@kennybowens4983]

@@KingstonHawke lol he’s just being a good friend and I can respect that but he has a crazy bias I didn’t know he had it’s kind of refreshing to see his human side

[@Freya1412]

Why do I feel like Destiny got fleeced by his ex wife and doesn't want to admit it but instead has an awful attitude now toward all women. He desperately wants to prove that this woman baby trapped fresh. Like it will prove something to him about females. Fresh was not baby trapped. The woman may have reacted on impulse after he told her he doesn't want to take responsibility for the kid after leading her on but it's understandable from a human perspective. Didn't destiny also have a similar knee jerk reaction when he realised his marriage was over? And didn't destiny also save text messages, record phone calls and see an attorney when Mel hurt him? So why is it malicious when this lady does it? She is pregnant. The father played her. She absolutely should get an attorney and start documenting all conversations. She shouldn't have exposed him online because it can harm her case but I understand why she did it.

[@ImpulsiveLimbo]

Honestly the online shit was a dumb knee jerk reaction. She was upset clearly. Contacting a lawyer 100% makes sense if you are a foreigner and literally don't understand the laws when it comes to getting pregnant in America with someone who is avoiding responsibility. She doesn't know if she can stay, or if they have to go back to China, how child support would work as a non citizen etc. Speaking to a lawyer to understand what is going on able to happen makes sense.

[@---ny4ys]

Because destiny is also an f boy like Walter and he's terrified he will be the next screw up on a KZbin expose

[@Captaiesqueleto]

See Destiny has always been black pill sub -3 he always hated on women that is why he is bisexual

[@KingstonHawke]

Exactly! Destiny has been awful towards women, especially those that remind him of his ex, since she left him.

[@mr-h6x]

I think it's a few things: 1. He went in hard on this lady and it's hard to back down from that without a mea culpa 2. This lady did come off in her texts to Fresh like she was using a goddamn baby like a bargaining chip and something to get back at Fresh over. Destiny has a son and most people would find using a baby like that to be one of the worst things you can do. 3. I do think he has a bias for Fresh and Fit. Idk why but he's glazed them in the past. Especially Myron.

[@MikaelBengtsson-qc7xo]

The way Destiny talked to that woman during the show, calling her ”subhuman filth” and shouting ”god will judge you”. It’s not what you do when you ”feel” you’re maybe 80% certain she was playing games. If Destiny is proven wrong I feel an apology isn’t enough.

[@Macheako]

Remember, he said with absolute certainty “we’re all going off of vibes, nobody has 100% of the info” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 #littleman

[@pentagramrises]

Destiny is smart but he cannot read his own emotions and it's very funny to watch him act like a child because he can't understand that he is very emotional.

[@STOPTHECLOWNS581]

I don't care it entertaining asf None of these people deserve any sympathy.

[@brandonsimpson1617]

Agreed

[@brandonsimpson1617]

He’s still carrying some animosity from the whole Melina thing

[@YesLads-tt6ue]

I think this is the only topic I’ve seen destiny fully delusional on

[@dylaroo24]

What is he wrong about?

[@Plebus3]

@@dylaroo24 I would say when he actually confronted the girl on that 1 guys stream, she said that he will never see his baby because the way he treated her after she got pregnant and how fresh does not want the kid. destiny then argues that fresh is emotional at the moment and things can change. but he does not give the same courtesy to the women who is pregnant and getting messages where the baby daddy wont talk to her and wont even try to be in the babies life. i would argue this is bias and just a dumb argument. lol

[@snoopyco07]

​@Plebus3 probably because she decided to make it public, so he has less sympathy.

[@dion5804]

​@@Plebus3Usually, when women get pregnant, they are dehumanized and treated like fetuses incubators. It's like you're invisibile and your feelings and problems suddenly become not important. You're just a machine.

[@dion5804]

@@snoopyco07 Lol She's suffering the pregnancy and the hormonal nightmare. This is not an excuse.

[@musicalgraffiti4256]

Copestiny is wild.

[@thesovgc]

I love that to Destiny, 28 is considered "a little bit older" 😂

[@Oberhaupt-cr8fn]

I mean he got a fresh 19 year old in his apartment. Why are we even surprised 😂😂

[@thesovgc]

@@Oberhaupt-cr8fn oh brother. Is that the thick girl I saw in the background?

[@merrytunes8697]

@@Oberhaupt-cr8fn DISGUSTING. Ruining young women' lives.

[@ItsMe-cp8xc]

Brother, it is. You’re being a weirdo about it. He means she should be a whole ass adult by now and the “I’m so naive 😢” defense isn’t as believable as if she was 19 or 20

[@Ohioluigi1]

“I didn’t reject you because I don’t mind being pregnant with you.” How can this be interpreted in any way besides her wanting his baby?

[@Lanesgummy33]

The fact that he was still hitting it raw, when she clearly had every intention of having his baby is what’s crazy… what’s even crazier is not wanting any kids and still hitting ANYBODY raw.

[@kuroichan101]

Yeah this line made it CLEAR shes baby hungry by him

[@at5203]

Forget about her wanting a baby, how on earth is you nutting raw on girls that aren't on the pill getting trapped? That's like a guy playing russian roulette every week saying he got trapped when he finally shots himself. Insane levels of no accountability.

[@beepbopboop7727]

Exactly. A childfree person would freak to high heavens if their partner said that to them. Hell, MY boyfriend would freak if I said that to him.

[@brandonsimpson1617]

She acknowledged that she was willing to have his child but she also gave him fair warning that if he kept it up he was going to be a father. This is not how trapping a man works. This is a woman who really likes a man confirming that he knows what he’s getting himself into

[@yurp2652]

I think the interview aba did was alot more conclusive on the relationship between both parties, its hard to trust anything fresh says as hes a known compulsive liar.

[@lampad4549]

This is true, but it seems very apparent that daisy is just in it for the money.

[@lampad4549]

And none of text leaked indicate that he wanted a kid or made it known he wanted one.

[@nsbdbsbsbdbzbz8555]

She is also a liar. Fresh sucks bit Aba is being dishonest. Its kinda pathetic

[@nathanfowler2835]

@@lampad4549no but they do show that she wanted a baby and that he was saying and making her feel like they were in love and would have a future and that he didn’t care if a baby happened because he didn’t want to pull out. I think after he switched up on her she became in it for the money, but I don’t think she was trying to baby trap him as she was pretty open about what she wanted. Just bad choices and irresponsibility on both sides. I feel bad for little aba preach fit

[@Aliyaaaa]

My main worry is that its word against word. Both could be lying. But you know what I believe? Aba and destiny both decided to milk the shit outta this issue and I'm all here for it😂

[@kumbi8368]

Nah, you got to hold this L bro. I'd imagine Destiny is super upset because of the idea that she has not taken the child's future into consideration, over screwing over Fresh (Destiny being a father and all that, so it probably bothers him on another level than the rest of us), and that has painted every actions she does negatively in his eyes. Despite the fact that its only been a week, and she is understandably emotional right now. Its always super awkward when you could be wrong on something after you went SUPER HARD on it initially. Bro called her "sub human trash" 😂.

[@remylebeau_]

lol at destiny defending absent fathers

[@EdertheJust]

He is one

[@perfectiondreamusa]

Destiny: i will change my mind on this if logs come out that show Walter and her talked about having kids *logs come out* Destiny: well now i’m not doing it >:(

[@lordn3m3sis]

they didn't discuss about having kids at all in these posts tho

[@Dismuth]

You mean when she said "let's hope our kids look like that" and he said "yeah" or something like that? That isn't him agreeing to have kids. Informed consent is lost on you people.

[@perfectiondreamusa]

@@Dismuth “informed consent” doesn’t apply in this situation wtf are you talking about. fresh “consented” to getting her pregnant when he chose to nut inside her raw. if he was expecting her to get an abortion the responsibility would be on him to get that “””informed consent””” from her. Abortion is NOT the default. especially from someone like fresh who is OPENLY religious and OPENLY anti abortion

[@Substantial-hf1rm]

​@@Dismuth That's bullshit, he kept raw dogging a woman he's love bombing and when she pointed out the fact that creampies lead to children, he responded by saying he's gonna keep doing it anyways.

[@cjpack]

THATS GOOD YOU HAD YOUR PERIOD. idk if you know but when people are really trying to have kids and have bad luck for example, a PERIOD is HORRIBLE NEWS.

[@tji7046]

This Destiny guy...just walk it back, you judged her and basically went Red Pill on her for no good no reason.

[@michaelh878]

He gave all the reasons,

[@Constantinch]

Nah this is an objective L from Destiny. I'm not saying this girl is a great person but she definitely isn't to be blamed for this situation and Destiny acted like a sociopath towards her. In previous controversies like stealthing discourse I would defend him because he was correct even tho he was overly aggressive. In this case he is both aggressive and wrong.

[@WhopperCheeseDota]

Wild you think there's an objectively correct take from a few cherry picked screenshots from 1 side of 4+ months of messaging 😂

[@nathanmitchell7961]

@@WhopperCheeseDota ^

[@wisemage0]

_"She isn't to be blamed for not using birth control or getting an abortion, then making public disparaging remarks about her future child's father while leaking his DMs like a twitter troll."_ Good lord, the infantilization is off the charts. What was the point of giving women the right to choose if we're just going to blame men for everything anyways?

[@theanimerapper6351]

​@@wisemage0 he literally chose to bust inside of her. It's his fault for not paying attention in biology class

[@user-dq3xw9cv3e]

​@wisemage0 Well that would mean women suffer consequences for their actions which is sexist.

[@DaddyLongshaft]

The gaslighting telling us to not read into things while Destiny reads into things is crazy for something "he doesn't care" about

[@TheBadmatter]

Hes always gotta take a side with his debate bro ego mindset.

[@berrymckockiner5883]

Myron's unbreakable loyalty is starting to rub off on Destiny now 😬

[@lurifaks92]

wtf is this interpretation of gaslighting

[@goddessrick8734]

​@@TheBadmatter She said her minimum for a man is 1 million and that she doesn't want Fresh in her babies life even if he apologized and just wants financial support. Let's not forget the part where she knew he was sleeping with others but she thought he wanted to start a family after a couple of weeks of living together?

[@TheBadmatter]

@@goddessrick8734 I didn't say she was innocent.

[@RayTheomo]

3:35 was literally all you need to know. She told him straight up and he continued to drop loads. Destiny cant keep claiming shes baby trapping now. 😂

[@magicmantra4456]

It doesn't matter. He told her he doesn't want a child.

[@RayTheomo]

@@magicmantra4456 that might be the lowest iq defense ive ever heard. It doesnt matter what you tell a girl. If you keep BUSSIN PHAT NUTZ WITH NO PROTECTION YOU'RE GOING TO GET A KID. Philip Defranco says it best. D.B.S.S.

[@kirkpatrick5219]

Why would it matter if he said it before? Is he not allowed to change his mind? If I told my wife I want kids and changed my mind a year later that should be respected. This country has awful parental rights. If a woman is allowed to abort the baby and forgo raising it a man should also be allowed to forgo raising the child. If your state doesn’t allow abortion that’s different but if you’re going to preach my body my choice then men should have my wallet my choice. Otherwise women are going to keep abusing the law. You get what you incentivize.

[@LuckiestManAlive]

​@@kirkpatrick5219If you have a change of heart on kids, then typically that would coincide with stopping the action that would create kids. The point is, he knew she wasn't on birth control because she alluded to her period being the signal that she didn't get pregnant 'that time", and that it may happen next time. And he said he didn't want to pull out. Pretty cut and dry.

[@joshuajosh77]

​@kirkpatrick5219 but if your wife says she wants kids, and you continue to drop loads in her, it's your fault when she gets pregnant. You know she wants a baby, and you're not wearing protection.

[@kaws3076]

The mental gymnastics from Destiny is insane. Hold the L

[@natediaz1863]

But he's right. Aba is a snake and D needs to realize that. FnF ignored Aba for years, but why does Aba keep coming for them? Aba cant let go.

[@kaws3076]

@@natediaz1863who cares Aba his intention. It’s pretty clear she didn’t baby trap him… on one hand Fresh claimed she was rich and comes from money, then now the claim is she trapped him for money. Makes no sense. He lied to her and fell in love.

[@sudamatsuda3477]

@@natediaz1863 It's kinda fucked because the more they cover F&F the more attention they give them, they are smart enough to know this.

[@xMorbidArtx]

You fell for his kyle ritten house and israel mental gymnastic, why does this one affect you? Does Fresh and Fit make you feel emasculated?

[@johnpark7612]

Most L comment on here

[@mary1412]

Honestly watching Aba and Preach’s video last night I feel a little different. Fresh was for sure leading this chick on. On stream he said she wasn’t even his girl.. then you see him Saying “I love you:” saying “I’m gonna come in you anyways. I just want you to be happy” when she LITERALLY says “if you come in me again I’m gonna get pregnant” wtf… that is NOT what F&F were saying… they’re both in the wrong IMO. Fresh needs to step up and take responsibility and at least pay child support. Daisy shouldn’t have blasted him all over social media in 2 seconds like that. He just found out she was pregnant too. Give him like 2 weeks to process… and if he is still ignoring you and all that THEN you can blast him all over everywhere. She definitely called him out bc she was mad about how he handled the situation. He definitely handled the situation horribly. They both need to grow up for the sake of this baby. She needs to go on and find her a rich guy who doesn’t mind she’s pregnant. She’s gorgeous and definitely could. She’s got options. And they’re way better than Fresh.

[@bartoszkrawczyk5921]

Worst thing is that Walter will still probably deny leading her on anyways, going "man i was lying to her, i didn't love her, we all do that to chicks as high-value men lmao eks dee"

[@mary1412]

@@bartoszkrawczyk5921 yeah him lying about that just makes it seem like he’ll lie about everything. He’s like “she was on camera… so you know I always say MY girl will never be on camera so you know she was never my girl” meanwhile he’s calling her baby, taking her out of the country, introducing her to his whole family, saying “I love you”, coming inside her every time, telling her she’s his girlfriend… etc… that is STRIGHT UP lying… and now I won’t trust anything he says about this if he can’t even admit she was his gf. Just admit it. Why does it matter?!? It’s so ridiculous if his redpill audience can’t even handle that he has a gf.

[@92BelluS]

100% I just watched the video. Fresh 100% Played her. Tho she is immature ngl.

[@shawnparadox9299]

This sums it up perfectly Nothing else needs to be said

[@narutofan4545]

She's not gorgeous she's just pretty. She's missing a personality and it's not esl

[@juliancalendar328]

Weird display of loyalty to fresh and fit here.

[@ontheright2482]

I don't see that. I see him calling out a girl for being a baby trapper AND Calling fresh desperate and falling for her trap too easily and fast.

[@jcnot9712]

He’s loyal to himself. He wants the narrative on his side for when a girl inevitably “baby traps” him as he calls it 😂

[@ontheright2482]

@jcnot9712 agree. But I think he is right too. Even if this time it's for his own interests.

[@tmchannel8483]

The world isn't that black and white.

[@jcnot9712]

@@ontheright2482 the things he’s right about I don’t see anyone arguing. Like her being irresponsible and not necessarily the best person. It’s the baby trapping stuff that goes into delusional territory, specially with all the evidence she’s presented. He’s gotten so lost in the sauce he’s out here saying stuff like “baby trapping doesn’t have to be ahead of time” to justify his opinion, instead of adjusting his opinions to reflect reality. He’s lost the plot.

[@Giavva1311]

You would think after being scared shitless by Preach, Myron would stop asking people to come box him.

[@yeahdontknow57]

Wait what happened? Did they actually confront each other??

[@RayTheomo]

Gotta keep up that alpha facade. And his simp fans have short term memory loss so theyll keep letting him embarrass himself.

[@Plebus3]

@@yeahdontknow57 when they were talking shit to each other, preach said he will box both of them, and they never responded

[@saiyanxz6972]

@@yeahdontknow57no but preach wanted all the smoke and wanted the fight but Myron backed down and never responded.

[@karljonson3287]

​@@yeahdontknow57 preach accepted the fight the first time and Myron didnt answer back

[@JustChayse]

Sorry but Destiny is just dead ass wrong on these takes, I feel like he is either getting too influenced by red pill dudes or he is projecting some crazy feelings he has never verbalized on stream. The absolutely insane amount of presumptions he will do against the woman while giving Fresh every single bit of the benefit of the doubt is gross and I am disappointed to be a Destiny fan on this one tbh

[@wisemage0]

No one's asking you to stay.

[@jorgeyportly]

​@@wisemage0yea cause thats what Destiny wants, people to leave in mass over a disagreement like Hasan. You're quite the fan.

[@meowser1905]

@@wisemage0 Where did they mention leaving? People who think you have to agree every single take someone has to be a fan or part of a community are why these spaces turn into hugboxes. Destiny had a bad take here, and thinking that isn't a problem.

[@JustChayse]

@@meowser1905 Very well put man, That is exactly it being disappointed in one take one time isn't the end of the world and I never mentioned being done with destiny. Fans that attack other fans for disagreeing with the content creator are usually a problem and help nothing

[@cjpack]

oh so the woman who want date men who make under a million dollars is just what....? cmon you guys are delusional

[@kroshotnickneosun1421]

"Call me emotional and I'll hit you" LMAO

[@nithyanair8987]

Destiny two things:1. If two peopel hv decided that they dont want kids and are having sex in a safe way that wouldnt bring kids into the world then talking lovey dovey shit is fine.Thatvis not the case here... he is hvng sex without a condom and talking lovey dovey stuff... 2. U r reading too much into the what are u going to do to me comment... U hv to remember she has a language barrier ... English is not her first language...she translates chinese to English in her mind before speaking... i believe all she was trying to say is what are ur intentions with me now thay I am pregnant...

[@beewest5704]

True their actions substantiate these msges. They talked about a baby, they did the action to make a baby they made a baby. Destiny: You reading too much into the texts. No we are taking it into context.

[@KingstonHawke]

Destiny is just desperate to validate his assumption that she’s evil and out to get Fresh. Anyone with a brain could tell all she was asking was what are Fresh’s intentions moving forward.

[@ng4logic]

@@KingstonHawke If she truly cared for Fresh and baby, she would abort. Why would you keep a baby if father tells you he is not gonna take care of it? Did not she say something like "I am gonna make you responsible" (correct me if I am wrong). That sound to me like she is trying to get Fresh

[@nithyanair8987]

​@@ng4logicwhy is this on her only? Why can't fresh be caring enough to listen to what she is saying? She clearly communicated her intentions were to get pregnant... Instead of clearing that up with her like an adult he doubled down and made her feel that's what he wanted too...

[@KingstonHawke]

@@ng4logic Are you 14? Half this country believes in keeping the baby even if the dad doesn't want to be in it's life. That's the entire point of child support.

[@nahhhn3098]

It's so exhausting watching destiny have to be contrarian on every gd drama topic that comes up. This fuckboy defense arc is the worst yet.

[@ontheright2482]

But to be fair incels have a vendetta against guys who fuck all the pretty girls. I see that in this comment section a lot.

[@wisemage0]

I'd rather defend a fuckboy over an escort weaponizing her pregnancy to the detriment of the child. Kid's not even born yet and they're already being used as a pawn against their dad. But I guess you're 100% ok with that if it means dunking on the redpill.

[@bigdadybojangls9219]

Destiny needs to understand that you can be really traveled and experienced in certain things and STILL be a fucking idiot. I think Fresh is a perfect example of this

[@pentagramrises]

'she went to Dubai' literally just conspiracy brain rot.

[@halfbloodprincess989]

It's weird to protect Fresh for allegedly being 'very emotional in his reaction' and therefore somehow not liable for making her a single mom before the baby is even born - and then blame her for not wanting him in the kids life. She's probably also emotional?

[@jayro792]

Now I see what Candace means when she said he’s being contrarian for contrarians sake. No getting through to him

[@jahenkorah7593]

Myrone out of his own mouth said she’s from a extremely wealthy family …. Why does she need to trap him or create a “money plot”

[@kristianbasile7141]

Extremely wealthy with broken English? Nah as someone who grew up in private schools filled with rich kids, their English is better than that of most Americans.

[@kenzistar1569]

⁠@@kristianbasile7141she didnt grow up in America 😂 America is not the only place in the world, people live in other places and some of them have money. Not everyone is trying to move to America, in fact im leaving in 4 months. So there Fit is lying or her family has money, both options mean they are wrong

[@kevinvanharen1740]

​@@kristianbasile7141 Surely you arent this stupid? Almost like shes from a country where people dont speak english😱. Shes from China and 99% of Chinese people including the rich ones speak barely any english.

[@kristianbasile7141]

@@kenzistar1569 Yeah neither did I moron. That is my point. The rich, go to private schools and get taught English as well as other languages. You don't grow up rich and end up with broken English

[@im_jerry]

​@@kristianbasile7141are you slow?😭 Since when did being rich corelate to speaking good English. Do them rich sultans and stuff speak good English?

[@akyra231]

"CALL ME EMOTIONAL TO MY FACE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS" Yeah no emotional response there!

[@kirkpatrick5219]

Why does everyone have an issue with Myron showing emotion? I don’t get this . Everyone has emotions I believe he said women are more erratic emotionally meaning it changes quicker and has a wider range. Men still get emotional it usually expresses itself in anger though.

[@PicaPauDiablo1]

​@@kirkpatrick5219well the term is Hypocrisy, you should ask Myron bc he's the one that shits on people being emotional. Judging him by the same standards he used to shit on other people is totally fair play

[@PicaPauDiablo1]

And he'd do nothing.

[@NicholasW943]

@@kirkpatrick5219 The red pill types think that peak masculinity is a perfectly stoic man except when they're screeching threats at people, which doesn't count as being emotional, because it's alpha or in their nature or whatever.

[@kirkpatrick5219]

@@PicaPauDiablo1 He doesn’t judge people for being emotional. You haven’t actually heard what he said lol he says women tend to be more emotionally erratic. He’s also said there are some emotional men out there. Also he’s said he’s had to work on his anger so idk what you’re talking about specifically but it’s not what he’s said.

[@BSchoetker]

Destiny, I’m older than you I had stronger relationships than you, and my take of this is that you are coping so hard

[@michaelh878]

As someone who has lived in Asia for 5 years and been around all classes and er job types there, she is extremely suspicious.

[@jayciel8498]

Yall sure destiny doesn't have a crush on fresh or something? This man is defending them like he's their girl or something. It's wild how he defends people that constantly drag him

[@beautifulstrange7057]

It’s wild how everybody’s saying how bad her English is. It’s actually really good. There’s just a language barrier

[@kenzistar1569]

I was thinking that too, i think its good, English is hard lol im sure most of the people saying that are American

[@nickgardner1408]

Plus she seems to have no issue understanding anything that is asked of her in English, which is the most important part. Having some broken verbiage is the easiest dog and pony show for a foreigner to put on if necessary.

[@dillonblair6491]

​@@kenzistar1569 English is one of the easiest languages to learn, stop

[@Macheako]

She was a wery good wistener! ❤

[@brandonwhite562]

Walter: "She's tryna baby trap me bro." *Refuses to pull out even after a previous pregnancy scare* Walter: "She's lying. She's probably not even pregnant." *Screenshots of pregnancy test and audio of him begging her for an abortion*

[@Lanesgummy33]

Exactly, I don’t know how people defend this after they already had a pregnancy scare AND she messaged saying next time you won’t be so lucky. How dumb could you possibly be, to be still hitting it raw if you didn’t want kids 💀💀 she gave every indication that she wanted kids lol Steve wonder could have read between the lines of those text messages

[@Oberhaupt-cr8fn]

Lmao I am not going to bother watching this reaction after reading the comments. Copestiny got PTSD with his last relationships. Calling fans virgins while his relationships with anyone has been toxic af.

[@FlightX101]

Why is destiny so damn lost on this topic lol. There are no tricks.....its super obvious that she wanted kids and not once did fresh express not wanting kids until it happened. Fuck around and find out......HOW do you not see something so obvious

[@jaym.7620]

He’s just too stubborn

[@EdertheJust]

He can't say he's wrong.

[@FlightX101]

@@jaym.7620 ughhh lol. He needs to learn that its ok to be wrong on something. When you double down you look silly xD

[@michaelh878]

Why did she want kids with a guy she'd known for 1 month?

[@FlightX101]

@@michaelh878 Thats the thing. There is no need for a reason why. If a woman is constantly have sex with you every night without protection..............she wants a child from you. Idk how a red piller like him falls for this easy shit

[@dartagnanbrown4804]

14 min in and all i hear is hard cope from Destiny. Sorry dawg, you sperged out and now you kinda have to walk it back and redo your opinion Jstick (whatever his name is)style. He actually had the same opinion but said it in a way where there was better optics. Now, your "it's growing" when referring to you assuredness that she's baby trapping "climbed" to 80% but wasn't is 95% before? Bad calcs here dawg. Could have had some reservation when stating your opinion like you always used to and dodge a bullet. Even your regulars are confused so far about your reaction much less randoms or new viewers. Not only that, but people can easily clip your reaction and be like "SeE! DeStInY iS a MiSoGyNiSt! OmG!!!" Poor approach to your suspicions and not giving Daisy the same leeway you gave Fresh is goofy. Fresh brushes her off and nonchalantly tells her to go get a pill = Fresh is emotional but a newly pregnant woman who is adamant about the guy who just hurt her and is saying crazy shit somehow can't be emotional. Shoulda treated this like how you treated the Tate situation. Cordially state your suspicions and emphasize you're waiting for the evidence.

[@Bora_TalksTV]

49:02 if she did have recordings of those real conversations, you’d say it’s suspicious she recorded those conversations and still accuse her of playing him. Just admit you’ve already made up your mind to defend funky in this and stfu…

[@TheZealo]

This L take seems personnal. Like Mr. Borelli is setting the stage for his own baby mamma reveal

[@ontheright2482]

Rich people don't want to pay money to girls who resent them. This is the common factor.

[@jcnot9712]

Mr Bon Jovi living the bachelor life, he has to be busting inside some of these broads. He wants to be able to call it “baby trapping” when it happens, but if it does he’s gonna look like the boy who cried wolf if these are his standards for what baby trapping is 😂

[@ravercorum20]

"If you do weird fcking sh!t then I will not cover for you." You literally downplayed and covered for Vaush and his SH'ing of a discord user back when he was Irish Laddy and talking to you. You even admitted to as much in one of your videos. You also steel manned tf out of Mr Girl and his situation with his gf. Even when you were being critical with him about it you couched your language hardcore until after he flipped on you. You have a track record of loyalty towards your friend group, weird or otherwise. Don't get it twisted, the only one believing you there is yourself.

[@Loophole23742]

Destiny’s moving like Batman with the google translate 😂😂😂

[@thegamingkitchen8429]

Destiny makes sense to people who havent turned 18 yet.

[@themossad]

This is what happens when you mess with Israel

[@themossad]

Myron next

[@TealeafRogers]

Wtf lol

[@cringeandpunishment3140]

Glass israel

[@themossad]

@@cringeandpunishment3140 Samson says hi

[@themossad]

@@TealeafRogers Karma is a wonderful thing

[@Jobe-13]

I think Destiny very much did get triggered by all this. Especially being a divorced dad himself who does stay in his kid’s life. Hearing Daisy say she didn’t want Walter in the kid’s life made him real mad.

[@raiford5082]

nah destiny is fuckboy as well that is why he wanted to defend walter because the same shit walter does with women he does it too, like with that ana girl that was sperging the fuck out on zherka's stream. Destiny was 100 percent texting her some I love you shit.

[@user-dq3xw9cv3e]

The last time destiny saw his kid was weeks ago lol he is not in his childs life in any meaningful way. Lets be real

[@nahhhn3098]

lol, stays in his kid's life from halfway across the country. Yeah, he sent Nathan a headset once so he's such a great single dad. Fuck outta here.

[@wisemage0]

Maybe Destiny just doesn't like the idea of children being used as metaphorical bludgeons against their fathers.

[@Macheako]

@@wisemage0wow….what a …. Good Guy ®️

[@joeltnt908]

This is the first time that a topic is simple enough for me to understand that I disagree with Destiny😂😂😂

[@thegamingkitchen8429]

He's 90 percent wrong most of the time.

[@SteveSunny]

Why are you here? Just to hate watch?​@@thegamingkitchen8429

[@burnbird16]

If I were Myron, I'd be angry, too. Seeing my future go up in smoke because Fresh got me preggers. 🤰

[@Bro-dot-]

Nah it’s a W. They can do livestream updates on the child. Expand their audience from how to be a “alpha male” to how to be an alpha high-value father.

[@kennethhardy836]

We need round 2 of Destiny vs Aba after Destiny watches the video they posted last night

[@BlackBriar0204]

Destiny is matching Hasan levels of weaselness during this.

[@pimpmasterkirbo4383]

Im halfway through the video and Destiny is saying theres a posibilty she's not pregnant did he not look at the ultra sounds she showed on aba n preaches recent video???

[@EdertheJust]

He probably thinks it's photoshopped.

[@rdg7250]

Destiny being contrarian again what a surprise just like with Dune 2

[@victorpoirier7256]

Dune 2 is at best a 5/10

[@PigPissBeUponThem]

I love how Myron immediately goes to threats of violence how typical.

[@risboel17]

clearly this shows that destiny is indeed a girls name

[@Stratocaster42]

🫡

[@BimmerBros]

When it come to relationships, Destiny has very autistic takes 😅

[@jcnot9712]

Both romantic and interpersonal. Let’s not forget the mrgirl stuff 😂

[@mikyas392]

Destiny sounds like he is not even talking about fresh but himself being (possibly have been) in this scenario.

[@alexb8878]

Destiny has never gone off vibes more here

[@LiberatedNotes]

Destinys ex-wife also has a sussy insta account, travels around the world, was she a 304 too?

[@SleepyNoodle140]

According to Destiny's reasoning in this video I guess she is!

[@IEarlGrey]

Destinys takes on this are so fucking cringe and are pure cope. Really weird

[@RageinriotTJ]

ive been in multiple long term( 7yrs, 2yrs, 1yr, and 3.5 yrs. im 30 and in between participated in a handful of hook ups) this is 100% Fboy. you are biased if you see it as a baby trap, this is a situation where a woman really liked the dude, dude liked her enough to smash with out protection, dropping loads without care, but didnt wanna baby but wasn't man enough say so because, he knew that she wanted kids, and if he said no i dont want kids he would lose her, so lie. its simple fboy tactics. this girl also doesnt wanna go back to china because of multiple reasons simple reasons if you think about it. china is a totally different culture then ours. they literally had a one child policy, up until a few years ago. i believe they are allowed 2 kids now. racism in china is a thing, with her having a black child in china, you options to find someone to accept your child and help raise them is slim, because who is gunna risk not being able to continue their bloodline if they have a girl and the other child in the home isnt theirs. now they cant even try for another. go back to china with no support because you think her family is gunna approve, people still do get disowned by their family you know. if you were in this postistion what sounds better, leave the country, and run the possibility of your support system not being there for you, the father wants zero to do and he gets off scot-free zero responsibility, or do you stay get the support that you know is 100% and the father has to take some accountability

[@jeanclaudenord3456]

Thank you these people are idiots they judging her by their own experience. She has been smarter than anyone involved in this.

[@JK-sz1xy]

Very well put

[@michaelh878]

I don't agree with the first part. I think he did like her but Myron and co. gave him stick about her being the kind of girl they warn their viewers about.

[@Lilbroadwayrosariohd]

Lmaooooooooo this came up right after i just watched the video of dude raging and then also shouting out your channel

[@cpussandfudgy]

Destiny is a smart guy and I find my self agreeing with him >90% of the time…but this simping for Fresh is a really bad look.

[@fantasyskeep]

Fresh and Fit being emotional while yelling at their chat about how they would fight anyone calling them emotional.

[@hetheron]

For the record for destiny and everyone coping in these comments a baby trap by definition is when one party is deceitful about using measures to prevent pregnancy with the intention of getting pregnant or getting someone pregnant without the other persons consent or knowledge. The texts more than proved that he knew that she wasnt on birth control and unless you are proposing that he didnt know how babies are made, he knew and was obviously fine with it. It is my speculation that he was so chill with it when they had only known each other for a few months is because he believed that if he did knock her up that he'd convince her to get an abortion and be done with it but hey thats my game theory. I think destiny is super triggered between his lifestyle with casual, unprotected sex where an unplanned pregnancy is a intense fear, and having had an unplanned pregnancy in his life that I am sure while he loves his son, if he had to choose I imagine he would have chosen differently

[@themossad]

Myron is very emotional

[@im_jerry]

Very🤣

[@Jknxe]

Calling this a trap is like saying jumping into a hole is a kidnapping. From her point of view, Fresh is trying as hard as humanly possible to impregnate her. He’s busting inside, no attempt to pull out, not once, but EVERY DAY for like a month, and when they have a pregnancy scare and she says she wouldn’t mind having a baby, instead of saying he doesn’t want a kid right now he says “lol whatever makes you happy” and KEEPS BUSTING INSIDE. It sounds like she didn’t hide her intentions at all and he has literally negative pullout game.

[@foossy9]

Just to be clear destiny is one of my fav content creators but this is one of those rare times where his bias is so blatantly obvious and it looks even worse when he claims he's towing the neutral line.. it's teetering towards Hasan levels of lack of awareness... This is fkn fresh we are talking about here...

[@awkwardturtle2842]

I just wish someone would compile and compare destiny reading and responding to Andrew Tate text messages vs this one … I know he has the throw away “I could be biased” line that makes seem reasonable but then undermines that by going really hard on anyone (in his audience) that differs or accuses him of bias This is the Israel Palestine issue all over again in which destiny forms an immediate opinion and everything he reads “magically” confirms his opinion and how everyone else is too uninformed to correctly interpret what otherwise seems pretty clear with minimal inductive reasoning

[@kenzistar1569]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@nathanmitchell7961]

Nah, the Israel example falls flat. He's hypothesis in the beginning was obviously leaning towards Israel but the faults you have to point out are within his resaerch and potential confirmation bias, just becasue he ended up being correct does not mean it was accidental.

[@merrytunes8697]

Yea, it's called confirmation bias. He's looking for information that supports his stance, and ignoring anything contrary. This is critical thinking skills of a 3 year old explaining why they deserve another cookie.

[@nathanmitchell7961]

@@merrytunes8697 Can you provide evidence for his participating in confirmation bias?

[@TainteddReaper]

If it was as destiny said, that maybe fresh wasnt worried for daisy getting pregnant, due to her taking contraceptive before intercourse or "some other" justifiable reason, to defend himself, fresh would have said it on the most recent podcast. If there was something legit, with or without physical evidence like text. But the fact that he didnt say anything concrete in his defense means that there's likely nothing. And he's either not or is, and is afraid to make up just cause, because daisy might have something in a response to call out his bs. This is circumstantial but its the same deductive/inductive reasoning destiny employs often for other cases. Why destiny is saying fresh might have a good reason is wild. As he's willing to use the above mention inferencing to condemn daisy but not to counter condemn fresh lack of response. Also he used this same infrencing to condemned the recent sexual assault allegations on tom. so What the heck destiny

[@halfbloodprincess989]

A lot of guys don't like using condoms and a lot of girls don't like taking the pill, because of side effects. I'd bet he failed to pull out as that method of contraception has been mentioned over and over by both of them.

[@TainteddReaper]

@@halfbloodprincess989 If I'm reading this correct you think he failed to pull out? And that's the reason? Didn't this guy unload without care in her for the entire month before pregnancy?

[@mikec2845]

I've been watching destiny for years and hes always had his biases, but lately they're coming out his ears. bro literally cannot ever be wrong

[@0redfr0g0]

Every time a reasonable chatter says, "Fresh knowingly was busting in her even after a pregnancy scare." Destiny: "70% of my audience are virgin idiots and don't know anything. Unless Fresh signed a notorized contract in blood to have a baby then there isn't any proof he wanted one."

[@josephmichael6557]

Idk what planet you joke about marriage and a baby.

[@beewest5704]

Redpill community? Who the fck knows how their brains even work. Destiny refuses to admit Fresh played himself.

[@deepakkc555]

Man i talk to alot Filipinos and the interaction is like that. They get attracted really really quickly. As an Asian i would have done the same things that she has done

[@lio5090]

Destiny is having a rough year man … the limelight has done him no favours

[@jessiejoy1703]

The lead attorney reading the deleted part 😂😂

[@Dillanger]

Destiny you gotta stop giving in to the whole "going off of vibes" framing. You arent going off of vibes, you asked her questions firsthand, and made your judgement based on that, along with her statements + the leaked DMs.

[@stetsoncrobison]

Remember when he said 'it feels like you guys are reading into things'....and then proceeds to do exactly that lol

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

Didnt myron and walter get punked and puss out of a boxing match with Aba and preach? Man they sure try to act real hard behind a keyboard😆

[@PicaPauDiablo1]

Yep

[@slipshot3948]

No they did not. Myron has said he will fight Preach but Aba has to fight first.

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

@@slipshot3948 I thought what happened was fnf said something about preaches wife, and he(preach) challenged them directly to a boxing match. Which they refused to show up for

[@redfox1278]

@@Ataraxia_Atom preaches wife? The wife that he LIED about and DOESNT exist? He used that to galvanize sympathy from his audience, it was ALL fake outrage, And even so, Fresh and fit said they want to fight BOTH of them, but aba backed out and so did fnf

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

@@redfox1278 I still don't see what aba has to do with anything, and even if everything you said was true. From fnf, they have preach claiming that hes ready to fight them and will be in Miami and they back down? Come on man you can't tell me that's not some b!txhmadeSh!t

[@sayahgold312]

The whole bit of Destiny saying "if fresh presents himself this way on his pod cast, I can't see her seeing him as she does" I get it but its pretty common for girls (and sometimes guys but ive seen more of it on the girls end) to date guys who are shitty to everyone else but its ok because "they're different to me because I'm special" sort of thing or "everyone else just doesn't know them like I do" it could be that she has an absent father in her life and someone like fresh resembled her previous parental figure. what felt safe and good just felt familiar. They also might have toxic beliefs with relationships too, like they want people to have the same level of understanding towards them so they excuse a lot. for all we know, based on what was said on Aba's video. Her allowing the open relationship could be her way of hoping that shes chosen at the end of the day (also adding onto the absent father speculation) I've known many of instances of "daddy issues" where very hyper vigilant woman seek emotionally absent guys, play off the "cool girl" image of not caring about the multiple partners and junk Fresh gives off this "go strong on the love bombing" in the beginning then drop them when they've won them. sorta vibes (typical absent father mentality ) not to say this is the case, its just to counter his argument of the two things not working in his head. similarly to how destiny attracts girls who are super unhinged on him. Because that dynamic feels familiar and he might chase more challenging woman because its simulating mentally to toy around with the mind games that go into those relationships (makes sense for someone who has adhd, people who kinda thrive with that sorta stuff because that dynamic can be very addicting menially) if that is the case, more than likely he finds healthy relationships to be "boring" this is all speculatory, but a girl/guy can be intelligent in one area (body intelligence, social intelligence, etc) while having toxic relationships. to me they're separate. So for him to point out her being intelligent doesnt entirely fit for me

[@jeffchiqui2642]

lol, I worked at an international school in China, you’d be surprised how bad some of the students were at English, and tuition was about 35k usd a year, so they were pretty wealthy. TBH, I think there’s sorta a cultural difference that Destiny isn’t accounting for, which is why it doesn’t make sense to him.

[@beewest5704]

Yeah he us talking like Daisy is some Miami girl.

[@kenzistar1569]

I completely agree

[@michaelh878]

That is true but she would have been speaking English to all the guys in Dubai etc, not Arabic.

[@juliancalendar328]

So many leaps in logic and assumptions he's making here.