ABA Therapy: Based on the principles of learning

As part of the Hopebridge program, the autism center utilizes ABA therapy under the guidance and direction of Board Certified Behavioral Analysts (BCBA). Applied Behavior Analysis is the most broadly recognized and evidence-based method for treating individuals with autism.
Learn more about ABA and how it can benefit children with autism: hopebridge.com.

[@andrilopez5563]

Im being interviewed to be a behavioral interventionist and this is one of the links

[@gabrielle357]

ABA is honestly a beautiful field and helps individuals in it and their families. This field, like many others, did not uphold ethics very well towards the beginning. It’s been a long time coming but modern ABA upholds ethics and maintains that all individuals working in the field do the same in order to maintain their registrations. Therapy can be a hard decision for a lot of parents. I want you to know that we work everyday to clear the name of ABA and show families that we are only here to help. I’ve worked with countless kiddos for over a year as an RBT under the supervision of some amazingly kind and intelligent BCBAs. The kids have made huge progress and think of our clinic as school. They love it. As therapist we are their built in best friends. We work thought out the session but it’s often disguised as playing. My kids are wicked smart and loving. I love them back. My goal as an RBT is to work everyday with their progress in mind. At my clinic we don’t do any punishment. They may get denied access to some things for a limited amount of time ( ie. wants to play with toys but it’s art time. They may be denied toys until AFTER art but they are eventually going to get what they want). We don’t mentally, verbally, or physically abuse ANY of our kiddos. I apologize to those who experienced ABA when it wasn’t following the ethics it should have. I don’t want us to count ABA out to new parents though because they deserve to find EVERY possible way to help their child and ABA is definitely one. No person on the spectrum is the same. No data plan is the same. Not all therapy’s are the same. My tip:See what environment your child excels in and that should answer if you want to continue with the therapy or not. Ask for in home sessions if you can have them and just watch the therapist interact with your child and watch your child interact back with them. Also watch how they handle tantrums because that’s how you will see where their heart lies.

[@loikcharles607]

Hi, what are your thoughts on a blind person becoming an RBT?

[@brendan8886]

As an autistic person myself I understand why ABA therapists often say that the therapy is fine nowadays because the children are treated better than they were back in the days of Ivar Lovaas. However, the foundational problem with ABA therapy is not the improper treatment of the children through physical or verbal abuse, it is the fact that children are taught to act in a way that is fundamentally untrue to themselves, that is why ABA therapy is fundamentally unethical, even if you were to treat the children in the most friendly way possible, and even if they appear to be enjoying it and to be forming a friendly relationship with the ABA professional, these children are still extremely likely to lead a life where they will mask automatically and without choice, they are extremely likely to develop PTSD, they are much more likely to be sexually, physically, or verbally abused in relationships, and the chance of death by suicide is disgustingly high. Please, if you really want to make this world a better place for autistic people to live in you need to make a point of educating yourself by communicating with autistic people themselves and asking their opinions, such as people in autistic lead organisations rather than solely what you were taught in training, because the people who formed these therapies were not autistic and viewed autistic people as less than human. WE are what defines what autism is and how it should be thought of. These therapies really only make the lives of neurotypical people easier (such as the autistic person's family, or teachers), while increasing the burden on the backs of autistic people ten fold.

[@sjones8117]

@@brendan8886yes, I agree. Please everyone, listen to the harms as explain by autistic individuals who have been subjected to ABA.

[@CharitysClarity]

@@loikcharles607honestly you wouldn’t be safe because often you have to be prepared for random things tossed or tantrums/meltdowns, but there is much you could do that wouldn’t require working with those forms of behavior

[@CharitysClarity]

@@brendan8886many ABA goals have nothing to do with anything other then helping the child to succeed, I feel we are treating children we should not be. High an moderate autistic children should not be thrown into these treatments in my opinion. When your targeting stims a certain sensory needs that’s a red flag to me that we are doing harm. We have children that are having to be bathed have nappy changes, hurting themselves out of frustration very serve non verbal that are on months to years of wait lists. I have seen many adults never offered any more then a baby sitter now stuck in residential homes on loads of meds literally walking vegetables it’s heartbreaking, and when you look in their eyes you see them; you know they wish they could make a connection but weren’t given the opportunity while here we are forcing kids who can talk, just want to flap their hands, maybe don’t like sand on their toes thrown into ABA an many other intense therapies causing harm and intense waits for severe individuals.. it makes me sick to my stomach when I see what I have been seeing, an hour with a therapist and automatically autistic and given all the same standard services as a severe non verbal ! It takes 6-8 hours minimum to diagnose autism properly to form what services could help the child an because severe autism is so serious and it’s proven time is of the essence we now skip over an don’t care that we’re doing harm to everyone the way it’s being done now. I do not understand it a child who falls under the autism blanket of diagnosis should not be provided the same treatments when they are only having issues with sensory and maybe have add because mom isn’t cooking an they drinks and eat marshmallows for meals but they also parrot so now they are autistic and they can’t just be autistic no they must be thrust into intensive early intervention at the risk they are severe .. it’s absurd what’s happening as we make steps to help those that truly need it we are not caring one but for all the harm we’re doing to those with the diagnosis that have had horrible outcomes from these services 😓

[@Geck_Gxng]

Now I understand what this is entirely I despise it stripping us of our humanity is sick

[@captaincosback323]

@Dr Yuching Lee stop trying to free people from Autisim, we do not wanna be free!

[@georgesumner8190]

All this does, is teach Autistics to be more Neurotypical, because by doing this it makes Neurotypical lives less stressful / inconvenient. You also teach them to be more compliant with anything and everything that a Neurotypical will ask them to do, be it early on or later on in life. Meaning, they feel that this is what they must do to be safe and understood by Neurotypicals. Also to be loved. They learn to essentially people please. Later down the line, this means that all this training that they received, to make their parents lives and teachers lives etc, easier whilst they are growing up, sets them up to be more likely to receive abuse as an adult, or even as a child. You stunt their growth making them brain dead as they are not really suppose to think for themselves, they are only suppose to do what others want them to do, and therefore must await further instructions before they can move. They grow up hating themselves, unable to stop masking and really struggle to find a sense of self. They constantly get told that everything they do is wrong, which negatively reinforces every behavior (so even out of ABA they are technically still receiving it, if that makes sense). Sadly, all this negativity and abuse takes a toll on the individual, they have multiple mental health issues, including severe depression, which leads to suicidal ideation. Then finally (lets say as it is entirely plausible) they he / she meets someone who makes them feel special. Everything seems to be going great! They have finally met someone that makes them feel good for being alive and heard, only for that person to use their vulnerability to their advantage, be it for financial or sexual gains etc. Then due to the fact they were taught to be compliant they allow this person to get away with what they are doing (possibly in part because they haven't been able to read between the lines and because we see what we want to see and who doesn't want to feel special). Then when it hits them they commit suicide. When you have set them up from an early age (presumably unconsciously) for this snowball effect to take place on your child's life, because you wanted the best for them and it would make your life easier and more ideal. when you look at this scenario that I have typed up, which trust me is sadly not unlikely and very possible, would you still send your child to ABA? Listen to the Autistic voices, such as mine. The professionals have a business to sell, but what do we have to gain by making this stuff up? Trust me support isn't the problem, a lot of us want it. This is not the first choice though. More people have had a bad experience with this than a good one. Just do your research on the history of ABA and behaviourism. Look at what Autistics have said about their experience of ABA, particularly how it has effected them in the present as adults / teenagers etc. Read between the lines to understand the psychological effects this will have in the long run.

[@filipeflower]

I agree.

[@LaceAndCorsets]

Bro you can watch my 4 year old. Have fun taking a shit as he breaks your TV 😂

[@whyisthesky]

Very good points here. We have an understanding that animal training is missing important parts for a human, specifically for vulnerable people who are statistically prone to get picked on. Any time you want them to follow lead instead of become the flourishing people who are so interested, passionate and possibly talented above their peers, you're taking away an important piece of the success as a human being and their confidence and drive which is going to protect them along the hard path of being different. We know from animal behavior that the part where we are 'simulating' behaviour in an animal is counter-productive having the opposite effect. Aba doesn't even understand this imperative detail about teaching. Forced behavior doesn't work, it's the reason why when chasing dogs they don't stop, when pulling on the leash the dog pulls harder, when tugging on a toy you can't wrestle it out of the animal's mouth. Instead the brain has to work it out and act it. but we're not even addressing human behavior. Aba is not based on psychology and correct training, and uses methods which are detrimental to the development of the person.

[@elmalifico3708]

So what I’m gathering here is ABA basically teaches the What, but not the Why. Is that somewhat accurate?

[@whyisthesky]

@@elmalifico3708 since ABA has gotten the basic animal science and psychology wrong, it needs to change it's whole basis to begin addressing the behavior correctly and in a sustainable way, respect of the uniqueness\individual and future needs for the downsides of the condition of the individual to help them through in life.

[@natalieeuley1734]

From the very beginning, this video is misleading. The person who founded ABA was Ivar Lovaas; here are some quotes from him: "You see, you start pretty much from scratch when you have an autistic child. You have a person in the physical sense- they have hair, a nose, and a mouth- but they are not people in the psychological sense." "After you hit a child, you can't just get up and leave him; you are hooked to that kid" Also, notice throughout this video what is mentioned. The children are rewarded for good behavior, and it's a battle to get them to do it. And it's only focused on changing the child's behavior. Not on that child's emotions. Even worse, notice what they are saying the child can do. It's all about the caregivers. They aren't talking about how children can better pursue their interests, only how they can make it so the kid isn't so frustrating for the caregiver. This is what is wrong with ABA

[@natashadavis1621]

then what is a better strategy or type of therapy to use??? we were doing early start Denver's model for my 3.5 yr old. with covid19 all therapy has stopped. I want to start doing the therapy myself at home in the mean time ... suggestions?

[@natalieeuley1734]

There are lots of other kinds of therapies. Personally, I recommend CBT. CBT takes into account the emotional state of the child and teaches them alternative coping mechanisms instead of trying to erase them.

[@iraheilveil1025]

Natalie, you are just factually incorrect. I knew Ivar personally, and your facts are off-base. Ivar was in fact originally quite psychoanalytic, and he learned ABA from his dissertation advisors and professors in graduate school at the University of Washington. Those professors for the most part migrated from the University of Kansas-- people like Montrose Wolf, Todd Risley and Don Baer. These are the folks who are said to have "founded" ABA, which just means that they used Skinnerian lab principles and applied them to the clinical or practical setting. (There were scores of others practicing ABA, but it had previously been labeled behavior modification or behavior therapy.) Ivar was pivotal in adapting ABA principles to interventions for kids on the autism spectrum, and his research was groundbreaking because he did the first actual data-based research that provided credible evidence for its effectiveness. Ivar was quite a wonderful man-- albeit controversial mostly due to his use (and then abandonment) of aversive procedures-- but he was by no means the founder of ABA.

[@natalieeuley1734]

ABA is abuse, and the original practices were beyond abuse into torture, like electric shocks. It teaches children to do exactly what they are told no matter how much they hate it or how much it hurts them. This is why autistic people have such high numbers of individuals who have experienced grooming and sexual abuse. Bodily autonomy is taught out of us from a very young age in the form of ABA. I was lucky enough that my mother's insurance didn't cover ABA and only a psychologist, so I got to see a professional who actually talked with me and worked me through my problems in a humane way. I learned how to make eye contact by being told to remember someone's eye color after talking to them, not by being forced to stare at someone for a certain amount of time over and over until I could get a piece of candy. I frankly don't gaf if Lovaas actually started ABA or not; he was a horrible person and ABA is a horrible practice that needs to be banned.

[@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks]

Ethics change over time. ABA does not follow the unethical issues with Lovaas, which at that time was more accepted than it is today.

[@seriouslystop1]

Wait this isnt roblox aba lancer combos

[@cptkirk86]

A couple things from someone who knows nothing. Purely speculative. This appears to be a different way of teaching/learning for someone who thinks/learns differently. Isn’t that what we’re striving for? To assist in living their best life. If Autism specific Speech/occupational therapy isn’t working or appears to be traumatizing to my child, what do you suggest? Maybe this is ideal for her.. I understand concerns/points people have made. I don’t like the sense that it’s teaching someone to mask… Personally I see it as good IF you’re going to teach your child to be themselves outside of the progress/learning of aba. Stim when you need to. Be yourself.

[@DarkAngel-cj6sx]

I agree mama. Get your baby learn and soar. I am learning about this technique for myself to teach my son

[@freckles4603]

@@DarkAngel-cj6sx please consider this. There was a study done by Henny Kupferstein titled “Evidence of increased PTSD symptoms in autistics exposed to applied behavior analysis” it found that “Nearly half (46 percent) of the ABA-exposed respondents met the diagnostic threshold for PTSD, and extreme levels of severity were recorded in 47 percent of the affected subgroup. Respondents of all ages who were exposed to ABA were 86 percent more likely to meet the PTSD criteria than respondents who were not exposed to ABA. Adults and children both had increased chances (41 and 130 percent, respectively) of meeting the PTSD criteria if they were exposed to ABA. Both adults and children without ABA exposure had a 72 percent chance of reporting no PTSS (see Figure 1). At the time of the study, 41 percent of the caregivers reported using ABA-based interventions.” I’m not trying to stop you from using aba just please listen to autistics perspective on it.

[@theabaguru9894]

Great response!!! I think the issue in the field of ABA is the lack of cultural diversity training. I think this is reflective of the older model of American culture and is being addressed currently through teaching practitioners to provide unbiased treatment. ABA is meant to consider our clients needs over everything else, but some practitioners have not historically done that.

[@loikcharles607]

Do you think a blind person can be an ABA therapist?

[@CharitysClarity]

Many times stim isn’t what they want I had no idea until my son said he hated having the flap he wanted to not need to. Broke my heart because I was very misguided by others opinions never looking at the reality that every child and every professional is different

[@marcusgreer2879]

Wow, so many pessimistic comments on here. It’s frightening😅

[@LaceAndCorsets]

Bro the internet messed up this generation 😢 I want the internet turned off so bad for at least a a couple months so they can go outside and breathe fresh air. The irritation of the quick videos and instantaneous revelations everywhere is not how we are meant to live. It's too much info at once and it's overwhelming.

[@filipeflower]

​@@LaceAndCorsetsActually, no. Even without internet, ableism still happens. That's why there's multiple activists standing up against this. Sara Rocha, the president of APVA, is one example among many.

[@Naughtydahmer]

I’m so angry that this is still a Therapy option I will never ever put my son in ABA it should be banned and stopped . Give and take rewards are what they do at frickin sea world to make the animals behave how the trainer wants . This is sickening , you speak as if you have any clue what autism is really like . You don’t know my son or any other child with autism, you just assume cuz they are acting differently in a so called professional setting . This is the most fucked up therapy I’ve ever herd of and I’d never traumatize my beautiful son like this . Do you even listen to adults that have gone through ABA ??? Probably not you are all based on assumption .

[@PuppetPiper1990]

ABA therapy has changed so much. I work in an ABA clinic and I have autism. I have seen the progress many kids have made. If someone you know has experienced trauma from ABA I am very sorry, but they did not experience what ABA therapy really is now. ABA is the best therapy option for those who have autism. It teaches communication, coping, and basic skills in a one-on-one setting.

[@ualt4007]

I work at ABA clinic and can say this, they give more than rewards, a professional gives his life for his patient just to see him growing and getting better at his skills

[@williamroy9909]

I am a new RBT therapist. And while I might agree with some of your statements. I think it works great for kids that have ADHD like myself. Most of these kids are abused and even feel like they don't exist due to neglect. Rewarding them helps them form as an individual instead of playing follow the leader.

[@filipeflower]

@@ualt4007 Then how is it possible so many people complainned about ABA through personal experience?

[@haannguyen4402]

May I put my two cents in? I’m autistic (mild/high functioning) and attend a regular high school class. I will take 3 AP classes next year. I never had ABA but had OT and speech as a child

[@doodlebugugg]

I’m autistic and 15 and I can proudly say aba fucked up my life. I can’t unmask in front of anyone without getting anxious as hell and I’m going to therapy to cope with another kind of therapy. Thanks I guess :/

[@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks]

Interesting. Where did you get your services? Also, was the individual credentialled by the BACB?

[@captaincosback323]

Went to ABA as a child, sad how abusive it can be.

[@Data-Expungeded]

@Dr Yuching Lee shut up bot

[@filipeflower]

@@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks That's an awfully personal question.

[@mariomihai5845]

Hi.is here anyone who can give me some tips as CBT.whatever i can try at home..I'm a parent of twins probably autistic kids 4y.o.they know a lot of words (to name things)but we have no dialog no conversation for example how are you what you ate today in the school.what have you learned today we have zero response from them .i feel they do not understand what i spoke to them..we have very poor eye contact with them.every time i try to teach how to do a sentence for example.i want water.i like flowers etc.they just copy and nothing more.they are not able to respond a question.we try so hard they even go to speech terapy and no results.one is geting angry very easy especialy if he not get what he want shout rub the face or nails.but only wich we are happy with one know to read in english easy basic english and the other is that he can write.please anyone who can help me with tips that work i'l be happy as a parent of autistic kids

[@onettaviator5396]

Well, I'll tell you this. Do NOT use ABA. There have been studies of ABA having negative psychological consequences on autistic people who went through it as children. The results look amazing on paper, but I can cite many resources-- both primary and recorded studies-- where you can see the truth. ABA seeks to suppress autism and reconstruct the entire way an autistic brain works through a lens of compliance, but this isn't fully doable: one doesn't just stop being autistic, it's a literal difference in your brain's wiring! You're born like that. And plus, living a childhood where your caretakers are constantly trying to change so many things that make you... you, it isn't good for a developing brain's self-esteem. No matter how unusual the particular brain in question is. And there is such a thing as too compliant as well. ABA does not allow your child to say no to things they are uncomfortable with, and that's a skill they need. For example, God Forbid somebody abuses them? ABA will have taught your child that they cannot stand up and say no against the abuse or unwanted touch. I'm not saying it's hopeless, of course it isn't, but there's always a chance that maybe your twins just will never be fully verbal. And that's okay. And eye contact isn't as important as you think it is, there are lots of ways to communicate and they're just as valid as each other! Best of luck to you.

[@mariomihai5845]

@@onettaviator5396 thank you for the reply.to be onest .as i see in may videos with ABA. Terapy i see the kids get tricked to do things or whatever.my kids for sure are extremely hard to get tricked.theyr behaviour make me worry also.when they want to get something a toy or in the kindergarten something which is not aloud .they will scream very loud and nobody can calm them down .they get so nervous they will throw with chairs or even hit teachers or other babies.the other kids are afraid of them only momy or daddy can calm down them.they have strange hobbies for example jump in the bed for hours without pants and underwear throw toys clothes under the bed for hours and they enjoy a lot this of course.i do not see the time will come and they will get bored of their hobbies.they are very inventive about games different then any other games played by kids at their age but these game involve me(daddy).and of course the need a lot of hours to play.the problem is i no have so much time.i'm the only one working in the family.+we are really alone.very far away from my and my wife families .these things worry me also

[@krystalrussell81wof]

CBT therapy is helpful depending on how you use it not just introduce it preferably I use DBT which is more emotion based not just cognitive focused but it blends in.

[@Naughtydahmer]

Why do you think my son is an animal wtf are you doing !!!!???? They aren’t dogs

[@derekmeza2882]

This feels like a red dragon treatment "do you see"

[@robertlust6234]

Her tone appears to be like condescending but it might be part of the approach or maybe people with different cancers of speech I guess Canter's Canter's like a horse does

[@oki158]

Why is making a child be what you want to be so important? It's really weird

[@beschel68]

Some children self harm or refuse to eat food to the point of severe malnourishment. ABA can be used to help curb behaviors that harm a child’s quality of life and physical safety/health. Some children will enjoy pressing on their eyes and injure themselves because they have a high pain tolerance. I’m not saying ABA hasn’t or can’t be harmful, just that it can be helpful to change behaviors that negatively impact a kids life. Hope this makes sense just wanted to give a couple examples where it’s good

[@007GoldenLion]

Because we want our children to grow up and be independient, we dont want them to be 'human pets' that will become homeless when we die

[@saeedbiamani2513]

Are you a parent?? I want my child to be able to take care of themselves after I die I want my child to be able to tell me if someone hits them or something worse. The best answer to a fool is silent but I rather explain to you

[@christinafitz]

So, you would prefer we let children self harm? Maybe we should let them bang their heads against the wall until they have traumatic brain injury or seizure disorders?

[@stfuyoutube423]

@@saeedbiamani2513 i hate how you pretend to be true even though you’re extremely wrong

[@samanthamartin9712]

Ty for sharing

[@chellys.catbox]

you are mysinformed

[@stfuyoutube423]

misinformed

[@Naughtydahmer]

What in the holy shit my son has autism and I refuse to use ABA my son doesn’t need fixing

[@onettaviator5396]

Yeah, DON'T. It's not worth it.

[@JessicaNiles]

The candy as a reward was shocking to see. 😳

[@Koisuu]

May I ask how so?

[@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks]

Oh my...rewarding good behavior of a kid with candy???

[@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks]

@Dr Yuching Lee I used the herbs from oyalo channel and I can't stop throwing up. I need to go to the ER

[@TheAutisticEducator]

Rewards do NOT work.

[@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks]

@@TheAutisticEducator Rewards don't work.........................ok. Then maybe you need to check to make sure the "reward" is actually a reinforcer. If the reward does not work, then you need to pick another "reward". Everyone works for some kind of "reward". .......how are you an "educator" again?

[@Reticulan1]

Did they come up with this method by sticking articles about dog training, conversion therapy and how to cause a meltdown into a wood chipper. What gives you the right to grab their hands or force eye contact, make loud noises as praise or hug them. All of those things can be physically painful to to anyone with ASD. I highly doubt any adult with ASD has overseen these "treatments".

[@urdin2242]

I have autism and I am a registered behavior technician who practices ABA therapy. I wish I had been placed in ABA therapy as a child. My life would be much easier now. Instead I had to go to public schools that was not meant to work around my needs.

[@filipeflower]

​@@urdin2242That's why adaptations for autistic people are required. And no, ABA isn't the only way.

[@TheAutisticEducator]

Absolute abuse,

[@robertlust6234]

Moriarty said that Lynn looks like he's probably on the Spectrum

[@shardachannelbhagalpuri8582]

New friend 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷

[@caseyhelmbright7136]

thought this was uh anime battle arena

[@robertlust6234]

Jesus Christ let's just let the creators of South Park run the government

[@jmjm3]

❤

[@HopebridgeAutismTherapyCenters]

We're glad you liked it. Thank you for your support!

[@captaincosback323]

@@HopebridgeAutismTherapyCenters well the rest of us don't, your therapy is abusive, we deserve better as Autistic individuals, END ABA!!!!!

[@stfuyoutube423]

@@HopebridgeAutismTherapyCenters you should be ashamed of yourself

[@filipeflower]

​@@stfuyoutube423Why?

[@e.squires7011]

those are children not fucking dogs, treat them like people.

[@Monkeh516]

I can stand autism jokes but these treatments are not therapy but torture

[@captaincosback323]

Fr

[@jennosyde709]

@Dr Yuching Lee I cannot tell if you are trolling, or if this is satire.

[@mrmiteva]

:((((

[@Camazotzer]

Lmao I thought this was a shitpost on roblox ABA and it's toxic playerbase

[@sir_fungus8343]

Lol same

[@stfuyoutube423]

@Dr Yuching Lee STFU ALREADY!!! WE DON’T WANT TO HEAR YOUR STORIES ON HOW YOU RUINED YOUR CHILD!!

[@spectrumnewstoday6571]

Dislikes are filtered out to cover up the abuse that ABA is. This forces children to act neurotypical which is torture for us. Autism is neurological ot behavioral.

[@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks]

incorrect. Do your research

[@theautisticpage]

@@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks It is very easy for any ignorant person to say "do your research" It is much harder to face the facts.

[@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks]

@@theautisticpage you are correct, however, you shouldn't use KZbin and blogs as a source for reliable information. If you want, I can point you in the direction of 1000's of empirical, peer reviewed, evidence based procedures of ABA scientifically shown to improve the lives of others. Please don't tell me to go look at some unknown blogger who thought they were getting ABA, but either had an uncredentialled provider saying they were doing ABA, or an unethical provider. That is inaccurate.

[@spectrumnewstoday6571]

@@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks No that is not correct. When they force autistic people to act neurotically causing great psychological harm it is called evidence based success. The reason is the person is not ACTING autistic. Did you know that most autistic facegroups will ban you for even mentions ABA talk? No the real source of accurate information on it's affects are best determined by assessing the experiences of those they have been through it. And brainwashing is NOT a desired outcome. Enough with the bull.

[@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks]

@@spectrumnewstoday6571 ABA does not force autistics to act normal. Your point is invalid

[@robertlust6234]

Buy a coffee

[@cosmicxfungi2939]

ABA therapy causes ptsd in autistic kids

[@Lunavii_Cellest]

Well not with alot of autistic people, becouse you can't have ptsd when you have killed yourself

[@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks]

there are no scientific articles directly linking ABA to PTSD. Read up

[@filipeflower]

​@@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanksYou didn't look everywhere, did you?

[@filipeflower]

​@@Lunavii_Cellest How can you be sure of that?

[@yas-per]

ABA therapy is extremely traumatising for autistic children and can leave them with lifelong psychological issues.

[@Juggernaut0]

Well said!

[@ellagracexx322]

👏👏

[@rarity-bo8pk]

Speak for yourself

[@1978picho]

Absolutely not …

[@tayrey9434]

How…. How is rewarding your child for good behavior a traumatic event?

[@fortross4182]

That's disgusting.

[@chellys.catbox]

@@rc9749 aba therapy. its abusyve and dumb.

[@viathejar]

#whatwouldpepperpottsdo? Eat goo

[@robertlust6234]

I used to think intents and purposes was intensive purposes or intents purposes does our covid-19 jokes

[@chellys.catbox]

thys sucks

[@robertlust6234]

I really have to pee right now I've been drinking a lot of tea though and I think I can probably hold it to this Learning lesson

[@Naughtydahmer]

@Dr Yuching Lee I send my son to therapy for speech and occupational therapy . This therapy is screwed up they are doing exactly what they do at sea world to their animals to make them behave how they want . My second son isn’t a mistake and he doesn’t need to be fixed , this therapy strips them of who they are . I love my son just how he is autism and all , he’s loving and kind and smart . I will never put my son through this crap . Also I used melatonin at night so he can rest his mind . He loves his older brother and his sister , he’s funny and I adore every bit of him I don’t ever want to change him and this is what ABA tries to do . I trained my dog like this too , give and take doesn’t work just teaches them to feel like they have done something wrong .

[@Naughtydahmer]

Lesson here , never put your child in ABA unless you want them traumatized for life . I would never put my son in ABA like I said my son doesn’t need to be fixed he isn’t broken , non of these children are broken , they just think differently then most nerotypical people . I know for a fact my son will be successful because he has me as a mother and he already has been successful in many things . He’s smart . My friends son has autism too and he opens up to me he gives me eye contact and speaks to me , he has more severe autism than my son but when I talk with him he’s a different kid . These babies aren’t broken ❤️

[@robertlust6234]

@@Naughtydahmer seems like standard if this then that, it would seem patronizing to an adult but pretty standard for a child (because of the level of leaaon) where is your problem exactly?

[@robertlust6234]

@@danielmoore4024 this was quite a long post and I've tried to reply to it several times now but Behavioral is actually out of date? Most behaviors are learned, there are however instincts which I am sure no-one discredits. As far as a biological solution, do you mean a drug that fixes it or a gene technique that stops you from having an autistic child? Gene's impact do have impact on Behavior. I feel like many autistic children are misdiagnosed and that's why they call it a spectrum now, so they don't have to figure out what's wrong with the child. Leave a child alone for a year-and-a-half without touching them in a dark room with the TV on. During their developmental stage and I bet you get an autistic child when you take it to the doctor.

[@robertlust6234]

@@danielmoore4024 I know of behavior is. I know what an ism is, those two together some pretty good to me. Sound science

[@robertlust6234]

I tried to send Mickey's coldest 40s in Minneapolis and invite to my cocaine party in the Espionage game however I do not believe they have deciphered the morse code

[@robertlust6234]

Little Dicky I may have made you a target of a hate crime I apologize to the birds Y says #justice department helps

[@HelloGoodbye2085]

This is conversation therapy, absolutely disgusting. I am an autistic girl and I own my own business and attend the 3rd best college in my country

[@pariacanyon]

It's not "conversation therapy" (aka speech therapy). Did you watch the video, or just commented because you want to show everyone that you're a big shot?

[@sineadflynn1470]

Well I agree with that girl I think autistic kids should be who they want to be and not do what ABA wants them too 👍

[@sineadflynn1470]

Don't listen to paria you sound like a lovely girl 😊🥰👍

[@HelloGoodbye2085]

@@sineadflynn1470 that’s very sweet I appreciate your understanding 🥰

[@ilovejaden090810]

Did you do aba growing up? I’m still beside myself if I should start with my toddler or not

[@cat8308]

Woah there, why are there no minority employees?

[@SpiderkillersInc]

That’s your biggest concern? Children are being abused and this is your concern?

[@robertlust6234]

2 trillion dollars doesn't mean s*** cuz once the economy collapses let's like 80% of 2 trillion dollars going away booyah

[@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks]

what the actual fuck are you smoking?

[@robertlust6234]

@@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks everything but Coke heroin and your D

[@filipeflower]

​@@robertlust6234Ignore that troll. He's been harrassing a lot of people already.

[@robertlust6234]

@@filipeflower it's fine I don't mind trolls. although I can no longer see his comment. Looks like I'm the troll in that context

[@robertlust6234]

I bet the justice department could beat it out of someone

[@piecesofme2488]

I hope that I can get my daughters insurance to cover those. I know people say it’s controversial. The main argument but you taking a child and trying your best to turn them into a Nuro typical child and if you modify they behavior until it is more norm. I don’t see anything wrong with that as in speech therapy I try to get my daughter to talk like like a neurotypical child and and in in Physical Therapy we are modifying her movements to be more neurotypical (trying to take a child and “train” them too have results (that are in most IEPs). In my mind and I’ll therapies I am trying to get her up to speed. Including behavior. When I first found out that this was controversial I couldn’t understand why. I read some of your comments but I still feel like an all my children’s therapy the goal is to have more mainline milestone behavior.

[@captaincosback323]

you are honestly disgusting and I feel sorry for your child, I went to ABA as a child and I was verbally abused, you can put your child through occupational therapy which will not try and turn her neurotypical but still give her the tools to succeed.

[@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks]

It's only controversial because people are misinformed. ABA is the most empirically backed, evidence based procedure clinically shown to help improve the lives of those on the autism spectrum. Ethics have changed, these people are living in the past. If you need resources to make your own informed decision, please reach out

[@Jinkroll]

Please please please do not attempt to suppress stimming behavior. Autistic people only need maladaptive or harmful behavior fixed (self-injury, injury to others, ocd, etc)

[@lionmuesli4321]

Please, don't make your daughter go through this. You're autistic daughter doesn't need to be fixed. She needs to be accepted. ABA is abuse and traumatising.

[@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks]

@@lionmuesli4321 wrong. ABA is helpful to reduce SEVERE and HARMFUL behaviors exhibited by autistic individuals. You fail to address the severely autistic community. So, kids who gouge their eyes out, smear feces on the walls, bite other people, and run out into busy streets... just let them continue doing that? Is that what you're saying? That is the severe side of autism

[@princessdollyllama]

Very good to help children learn to function in the world rather than only within themselves. Discouraging "Stimming" is essential in order to get them outside themselves and get stimulated by the outside world. It works.

[@BagelBagelB1]

No, let your kid stim

[@nazlakkus2933]

You shouldn't have children. Stimming is healthy and necessary for us.

[@princessdollyllama]

@@nazlakkus2933 It is like scratching, nose picking and cutting. Not productive and distracting to self and others. I do have an autistic child who no longer does this, and is much more productive.

[@cosmicxfungi2939]

I stim in public. As long as I'm not loud or disruptive no one has a problem

[@cosmicxfungi2939]

@@princessdollyllama Stimming helps us focus and can make us more productive