Former nurse speaks out after sentencing in fatal drug error | Nightline

RaDonda Vaught talks to Eva Pilgrim about her tragic mistake that left a patient dead and the unprecedented criminal charges and conviction that followed.
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[@ltilley7343]

The last time I was in the hospital every time I was given an IV medication, the label was read aloud by the nurse and checked by a second nurse. That protocol was very reassuring.

[@maxalberts2003]

Yes. That IS current standard protocol.

[@Blanche0507]

Every IV medication? There a hundreds of IV medications. Only certain medications are checked by a second nurse.

[@peaceandshine]

Not all meds are checked by a second nurse. Only specific ones

[@sometimeslifehandsyouapple1085]

@@maxalberts2003 medical person here. No its not. Should be but it is not

[@Phoenixhunter157]

@@Blanche0507 well, maybe paralytics should require a second nurse. But you’d have to read the label at least once to know it was a paralytic

[@Diaryofaqueen777]

This is why we don’t need to work 12 hour shifts!!! As a fellow nurse my heart goes out to her!!! Rip to the patient as well!

[@Schaferhund1]

12 hour shifts are the bonus of the job. What are you smoking?!?

[@Schaferhund1]

hopefully not crack!

[@Diaryofaqueen777]

@@Schaferhund1 stop trolling and go on about your day weirdo. You probably smoke crack and aren’t even a nurse 🙄😂😂

[@celestialnurse07]

12 hour shifts are not the problem here. It's not having breaks or help when needed that's bad.

[@wisdomveritas6281]

Good to know you were more worried about the ALIVE killer than the dead patient.

[@Nursegracie]

As a nurse working in one of the busiest ER’s in the country this scares all of us to death. Most nurses that I talk to about this have so much empathy for Radonda. We’re working under severe stress, multiple tasks, understaffed, high demand… NO ONE HAS YOUr BACK. This was a mistake. We’re humans! Im sorry for both families.

[@youubik]

It would only scare incompetant, dangerous nurses. Nurses need to take responsibilty for what they do, like other professions. I have seen many professionals prosectuted for mistakes, why do you think nurses should be exempt

[@youubik]

That incompetant nurse should have been jailed

[@nicolebailey4426]

@@youubik What about airline pilot error or those on a suicide mission. My grandmother was run over by the bus as she exit it I'm from Philly our mass transit system has no other competitors just Septa. This 3 ton bus on my grandmother's leg crushing it she was an independent 79 year old woman who had to have her leg amputated long story short she eventually died this was in 2003 she said on her last days on this earth "It was an accident and I forgive him " she made it to 80 years old. The bus driver was fired and of course we got some money for our grandmother but I love and miss her. I don't know if you have worked as a nurse if not volunteer at a hospital and believe me it 50% of documentation and 50% of doing the task By the way nurses are the largest employee of any hospital. You don't think nurses are exempt from punishment. I have one for you a nurse impregnate a vegetative patient. His name is Nathan Sutherland who is now an ex nurse but will be found guilty because this was an deliberate act and he will go to prison. You know who else I hold responsible is why anyone else in her care didn't recognize her not menstrual cycle and her belly. Also why wasn't the doctor assigned to her see her. You need a doctor's order to transfer a patient from long-term facility to the hospital.

[@nicolebailey4426]

Only another nurse can emphasize with you. I have been a nurse for 20 years and mistakes like this are rare. I don't know if you are new but I have told people who are in nursing school to focus on your education and passing your boards. I am disabled and people are saying that the newer nurses care more than the older ones. I tell them guess what new nurse get off the floors and they are advanced Nursing as a NP, Midwifery Educator and Nurse Anesthesiologist. SO be cautious not fearful and good luck.

[@youubik]

@@nicolebailey4426 The air industry has a completely different model for accidents. They set up an independent investigation and the various stakeholders usually cooperate with them. In the medical industry there is no investigation and the medics do not cooperate and instead hide and destroy information

[@cara5289]

I teared up when the family member of the woman who lost her life said that RaDonda was forgiven and didn’t deserve jail time. That must’ve taken an incredible amount of strength and compassion to recognize that it was a human error through all of the pain of losing a loved one.

[@anyaskirko3201]

You teared up when a woman forgave this person for killing her mil?? Weird

[@cara5289]

@@anyaskirko3201 mistakes happen. It’s easy to have your perspective and be angry, but it takes a lot of empathy to realize that anyone could’ve done that by accident. She did not intentionally kill her.

[@maxssister1985]

⁠@@anyaskirko3201uh…. Huh? The strength of forgiving is incredibly moving for some. Not weird at all… it is more so that you would find that weird.

[@mckenzieschmitt2841]

Imagine every time you try to get any kind of medication even if it’s just an aspirin or a bag of regular saline you have to hit an emergency override button. That system is clearly supposed to be for suspected medication errors or high risk drugs but instead it was flashing on everything so they had alarm fatigue regarding the system. They knew damn well they had a problem and they didn’t face it or fix it. Be loud with your complaints folks. Be persistent. write that incident report be detailed be objective. Make sure they know that you are worried about safety. It probably won’t do much in the long-haul but at least it happens you’ll have the legal means to say I told you so.

[@mckenzieschmitt2841]

⁠@@anyaskirko3201 this is an egregious error, yes, but imagine every time you go to get any kind of medication whether it’s an aspirin or a bag of fluids, you have a obnoxious warning that flashes across the screen that is definitely a mistake, and should not sound for every medication. So when something is actually wrong, you don’t notice it because that message pops up every time and I mean every single time you get anything. Not when you pull medication that has similar sounding names to high risk drugs. Not when you’re in a cart that is stocked differently than normal. Not when something that is not ordered for the patient has been pulled. No every single time. You ignore that alarm. That is just one small detail. this computerized system that dispenses medication’s was stocked with different drugs than the normal meds. And if I’m not mistaken, she was in an area of the hospital she did not normally work, which is something that nurses are constantly told they have to do even if it makes them uncomfortable because they’re scared they’re going to mess up.this hospital is sadly one of the best in Tennessee if not the nation and yet look at the things they are doing. Imagine other hospitals.

[@estelajoloya5520]

As a nurse for 32 years, I can only sympathize with her . She is accountable for her actions ( her RN license revoked) BUT at the same time, Vanderbilt has to be held accountable for its system’s failure. She was definitely made a scapegoat. I am praying for her, the deceased woman’s family and most of all for the deceased patient.

[@Brad210UIW]

5 Rs sound familiar? She didn't check them did she? All on her.

[@amyroyall1014]

She was reckless. And it’s really disgusting how nurses made some fake folk hero out of her!

[@tsteinyrn]

@@amyroyall1014 that's a pretty brutal thing to say. The stress is nurses are put under shift after shift is enormous

[@JordanWilliams-ix2td]

@@tsteinyrn o.k and? Brain/heart surgeons are under alot of stress too, they literally have people's life in their hand.. you rarely hear about them killing people because of not paying attention then using the excuse their job is stressful

[@amyroyall1014]

@@JordanWilliams-ix2td I meant ever word of it! I can’t imagine how the family of the woman who died feels, while nurses across the country defend her and blame everything and everyone but her. She’s no hero!

[@anchia7]

So many people out there committing awful crimes intentionally and get away with probation or no consequences. An overworked healthcare professional makes an unintentional mistake and gets prosecuted and sentenced with a criminal charge. Something is definitely wrong with the system. So messed up!

[@HollyTrapwood]

She’s white she won’t be in jail

[@uaeno]

Right!? Justice needs to be an actual system or we should call it what it is, a lottery. That's what u get in California. Anyone can acuse you of anything and the burden of proof falls on victims all the time despite what the "law" clearly states.

[@anchia7]

@@HollyTrapwood you completely missed the point. It doesn’t matter what color, race, gender she is. In fact, using your logic, she should have been absolved from the beginning. and criminally speaking (regardless of race), it should have never been a criminal charge. Yet, she was prosecuted for a criminal charge that was an unintentional accident/mistake.

[@HollyTrapwood]

@@anchia7 I said what I said.

[@bradentheman1373]

Disgusting right?. I hope the system gets fixed, because it’s horrible.

[@viking956]

This is disgusting. They don't charge cops when they "accidentally" kill someone.

[@DefundTheFringes]

No, they just give them 22 years for accidentally killing drugged-up robbers because woke mobs demand it.

[@viking956]

@@DefundTheFringes Oh come on Karen! There's a difference between a nurse who administers, by pure accident (and EVERYBODY agrees it was an accident), a dose of medicine to a sick patient and an animal dressed up in a nice blue uniform who presses his knee against a handcuffed man's neck for nine minutes until he is dead. If you don't understand how that math works then the critiques on your profile are absolutely correct. You ARE an idiot.

[@caseybennett6516]

@epic style: if you really believe that cops get charged for “accidentally” killing someone you are a very stupid person

[@quartersacker97]

Ummmmm yeah they do. Look up the kim potter case.

[@viking956]

@@epicstyle160 Apples and oranges my son. You would never get away with charging an overworked teacher with a crime because one of her little carpet lizards wondered off the playground and got bit by a rattle snake. I mean, seriously, good luck with that nonsense.

[@eza6940]

I'm a nurse too and a doctor ordered me to give an insulin to patient. I read over the prescribed meds and I realized that the unit to be given was above the normal dose....the patient was a very small woman and the prescribed insulin was too high for her. Called the doctor and informed him and he changed it. In medical field, especially nurses always check the meds beforehand.

[@marcianomcmahon9484]

is that all, coming from a Nurse like you. WTF

[@mdro434]

We’ll said I think your 100 💯 percent right , something weird about it

[@cartergomez5390]

Yeah, I have been reading these comments all night to understand the nurse perspective. My aunt was a nurse and now a doctor. Some of them are nice but my aunt was always talking bad about clients and breaking HIPAA. There are so many protocols to follow, it seems, and there must also be an ethics code, I'm sure. Preventative protocols should be implemented.

[@lornaparsons]

With diabetics check their blood sugar readings before giving insulin more than size of patient I do it four xs a day for over5oyrs and I'm short and average weight with mody and been in hospitals on drip and administer my own jabs but if unable too my blood sugar needs checking before any one should jab me and I'm most grateful to nursing staff that have looked after me over many hospital stays AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL

[@mydogky]

I think every nurse has come across this sort of thing I remember a doc writing up a prescription for high blood pressure when in fact the patient suffered from low blood pressure what was interesting was the drugs from both high and low blood pressure only differed by a couple of letters in the spelling, they sounded very similar, this could have potentially killed the patient, it was the nursing staff who got the flack as the drug prescribed had been given by two previous shifts, the doc was never pulled up on it, says it all really.

[@dinamiller9744]

As a former nurse who also has lost my license, for a med error, my heart goes out to her. I'll never get over it I'm with you my friend

[@JR-mi8ry]

Absolutely

[@junecoulthard8942]

Forgiveness, because you are only human just like the rest of us ❤ we all make mistakes and some we can't take back, only learn from them and to do better and go forward. 😊

[@NS-ur5ss]

She killed that poor woman by her incompetence where's she paints herself as the victim of a broken system. If you can't acknowledge the life & death seriousness of the medical profession go work elsewhere no one will miss you.

[@katelynpeltier4993]

@@NS-ur5ss She obviously admitted instantly to what she did wrong. She was a scape goat. The hospital covered it up. Learn the facts. Go work in the hospital. Get your RN degree. You'll understand. She made a mistake that costed someone's life.

[@wel2do705]

Recently retired Respiratory Care Practitioner of 33 years here. You have my heart ❤️ Dina. Not myself or you or anyone else that you know, who grinds it out in the hospital or recently retired from it, had any idea that we’d be running into a burning 🔥 house because any time we enter the hospital, we run into a burning house. We may all be standing side by side at the nurses station but we are only one person when it comes to repping our department or hospital intervention team which means we are essentially ALONE ! ! There’s no one there to help bail all that water out of a rapidly sinking dingy so yeah… things happen ok? I get that. But a little bit of supportive reassurance from HR never hurt anybody. If the everyday layperson was a fly on the wall in my ICU..? They’d be SHOCKED by the expectations that are so very often placed upon each and everyone of our shoulders every single time we punch in

[@ChasingRainbows67]

To the family of the deceased. What a courageous action to forgive the nurse and let it be known that the family didn't want her to serve any jail time.

[@Ken-fh4jc]

I hope if ever faced with a situation like that I have that level of integrity. I’m assuming that was her daughter. She raised a class act for a daughter.

[@metalrooves3651]

i HOPE you realize that the opinion of the deceased's family shouldnt be allowed to dictate a sentence.

[@lindsaysale8511]

It's so easy for someone who doesn't work in the medical field to say. We are all human. Do you really think she doesn't think about that daily? There are so many doctors in this world who are willing to put so many people at risk or even kill them for money. Medical reps giving doctors faulty items and practicing techniques that are unsafe and do not work. Not one damn doctor has served time in jail. They still have a license and are still practicing. As this nurse took responsibility for her mistake. It was not 100 her fault. There were so many mistakes in the hospital that led to this tragedy.

[@jazzyj6640]

I just wonder if the nurse looked a little different, if they’d still forgive her.

[@jimmorrison4ever529]

Sure. Real courageous. I'm sure the family hired a lawyer, sued the hospital, and benefited financially from the nurse's negligence on top of life insurance policies from a 75 year old woman. So courageous and brave to forgive.

[@TrentEngineFan]

It's always sad when a caring decent human being makes a huge mistake that costs someone else their life. I cannot even fathom the guilt that nurse must feel.

[@pigeonboy7696]

@@ketchum6455 how much money do you think nurse’s make?

[@ketchum6455]

@@pigeonboy7696 64K - 130K in Nashville where this nurse is from, even higher in larger, major metro areas

[@yhu4455]

@@ketchum6455 common hey she was not for the money...hey without nurses during the pandemic do you really think that your doctor will save you or your family!!! You know who's at the bedside at all times when you sick in the hospital--- the nurses... Ket Chum.... Being a nurse is not easy!!! Working 12 to 16 hours a day ...can you freaking do that???

[@ketchum6455]

You’re probably a nurse yourself, that’s why you’re triggered?

[@yhu4455]

@@ketchum6455 Yup and proud of it... without nurses you will not survive in the hospital, urgent care, clinic.... You need to see a shrink!!! Without nurses you will DIE!!

[@jeweliedee4299]

The kindness of the family in the midst of their grief is heartening. And Radonda deserves that kindness.

[@arleensantos3397]

There were so many things wrong with this scenario. From all the overriding to the type of medication ordered. I know she has to be held accountable for administering this medication, but the hospital has to be held accountable as well. I hope hospital administrators realize nurses need a safer environment in order to provide safer care and safer practices to their patients.

[@lydiamerritt1174]

Exactly. As a nurse myself I can tell you if this hospital doesn't fix this issue it will happen again. You should never be able to override that frequently.

[@DanceLife2012]

You are exactly right! I have several nurses and others working in the medical field in my family, and this is terrifying because humans are imperfect. We make mistakes. I don’t feel as though she should have been charged with homicide at all. Held accountable in some other way, yes. Convicted, no.

[@tinasewell1604]

If you want to help, ask about the bills we're trying to get passed through Congress for safe staffing ratios and criminal charges for violence against healthcare workers. Don't expect an industry that makes money off of people's care to care enough to change things. They will use as few nurses as they can get away with. If you think I'm lying, check any nursing home.

[@xoangelicaf0523]

@@DanceLife2012 so if that was your family you’d be ok with that? She kept overriding it & not paying attention to what she was getting, that’s literally her fault

[@SDGreg]

@Seekthetruth5664 There is a reason it is called practicing medicine.

[@jennifernader2914]

I hope she finds peace. 😞 The family had more empathy for her than her employer.

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Drugs Guns AOZ PORN

[@alphaomega9198]

No peace will ever come to her brain

[@josephduplaga1881]

I don't think you can have that in the same category a cop with somebody possibly have a gun on them and a split second to make a reaction to a nurse who has to move fast but has to read a bottle and double check what they're doing

[@alison2222-p2g]

She needs to sue Vanderbilt

[@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep]

@@alison2222-p2g For what? Making 18 mistakes in a row and murdering someone? How is she not in jail...

[@lisasunshine773]

My condolences to the family who lost their loved one. How devastating. This nurse clearly shows remorse and my prayers that she finds peace.

[@kathybrodie1191]

My family that are nurses give their all. This is a disgrace! Not only should she be allowed to be a nurse. The hospital should pay for the inappropriate management of their systems. Blaming the person and not the system is a typical quick response. But we need to go deeper to understand why and how to prevent another tragedy.

[@Pallidyne1]

But is it sincere? Sounds like a lot of I screwed up., but... and but... and but.....

[@lisasunshine773]

@@Pallidyne1 she takes responsibility for what she did. Clearly you can see the utter pain in her eyes.

[@aceburgers8801]

@@Pallidyne1 where do you get that? Weirdo

[@caroltomlin8822]

@@Pallidyne1 At this moment you are a pain in my heart.

[@Looskss]

This is why I went to home health. I see about 3-4 patients a day and give great one on one care. I refused to be overworked by these hospitals owned by corporations. They don’t care about the staff or the patients! My ex-coworker told me that now in medsurg at her hospital she’s taking 6 patients!! SIX! Insane!

[@kimking5928]

I’m in nursing school. I’m taking dosage calculation right now. I’m telling you this is my BIGGEST fear. I can’t imagine what she’s going through.

[@nicolebailey4426]

Well I have been a nurse for 20 years. 1998-2019 I had to stop due to my disability. Listen I worked at several places and a situation like this is rare. Right now you are in nursing school I think right now you need to focus on your education and passing your boards. Once you finish these tasks you will be so happy you will forget this incident.Medication errors are the most common mistakes that nurses make.I will tell you that being a new nurse you would be oriented for a long time every hospital is different. I will tell you if you are ready to give out your medication. Do not be distracted. Sometimes a relative may do this. Unless it's not an emergency be polite and say I will be with you in a moment.Focus on your medication remember the 5 rights that they teach you in nursing school. Make sure your patient has the correct ID bracelet and medication. I know they have scanning system to prevent medication errors. While some people like it but an old head like me hated because I thought it was time consuming but you have to follow protocol. I tell any brand new nurse don't be in a rush to get a job in nursing as a nurse intern. Get your license 1st that job isn't going no where. Follow your policy and don't be afraid to ask questions. Also if you are asked a question and don't know the answer it's OK to say I'm not sure but I will find out for you. Sometimes stating outloud not screaming what you are about to do so you are aware of what you are doing. Even labs draws have been a mistake. Usually the technicians are responsible for this depending. where you work. I know at my former job I never had my blood type and screen before. The lab will process my level however because I never had type and screen the lab department will require a different person to draw my blood for a proper comparison. Be cautious not fearful good luck

[@kimking5928]

@@nicolebailey4426 Thank you. This means so much.

[@nicolebailey4426]

@@kimking5928 you are welcome my niece is a new nurse also so I try to give her advice.

[@nicolebailey4426]

@e.t.ethics1771 I am reviewing the video over again and you are asking a different question not your fault. The medication scan did tell her the medication was wrong, however it has done this to correct medication example a laxative and we have to scan it 3 X or some nurse will seek another nurse to check if it is OK. I don't know what nursing schools are doing now and some nursing positions will mandated that you pass a medication test. I will try to answer your question the computer does nursing calculations for the nurse for example a heparin drip based on your Ptt lab level it will correct the rate and before scanning and changing the rate another nurse has to check your changes as it's written. My issue here is she is a new nurse herself why is she orientating an new nurse.She is working on a very critical floor. She graduated school 2017 then she gets her license she has to prepare to take this test. Most nurse graduates it takes 2 months for the passing a license. Ok this new nurse is planning to go to ICU neuro well in alot of cases you have to work a step down unit before ICU. Then once you get on ICU unit a new nurse will be able to work by themselves 3-6 months. Ok she is still new nurse and she has to orient,another nurse and she allows her self to be distracted by another nurse determine if the medication is correct and it's not. No matter what steps nurses take you will always be blamed. Why? Because you are the one who is actually administering the medication and in this case outcome was tragic. I think what will happen is the pharmacy will have to remove the medication out of the nurse's reach.( the medication that is considered dangerous). Unfortunately if you kill someone you will get fired and probably lose your license to practice. I hope I was able to answer your question.

[@kimking5928]

@e.t.ethics1771 You know, it’s quite a coincidence, I wrote a paper on this same suggestion just two days ago.

[@princessangerloo5905]

The fact that it was “normal” to override medications like that is extremely concerning

[@josephcumberbatch4248]

And unexceptible by Al means I'm so sorry but sorry just don't cut it for me 🙂

[@josephcumberbatch4248]

A whole life was taken

[@jennakhivkapratt8751]

I've been following this case for years And I read the entire 56 page cms investigation. it's my it's my understanding that every nurse at Vanderbilt was having to override medications all day long during that time period. So if every nurse followed the rules exactly and didn't override any medications, then nobody would've gotten their medications and lots of people would have probably died. Even if their system was functioning properly, there are legitimate reasons to override. Remember, the override function exists for a reason. It's used fairly frequently. I'm just saying it's a very complex situation and override in itself isn't the problem.

[@princessangerloo5905]

@@jennakhivkapratt8751 Thank you for the information😊 I’m just curious though, if that’s the case then what is the point of the override function? Was it meant for the nurses to wait for a doctor’s approval? I don’t understand that

[@jennakhivkapratt8751]

@@princessangerloo5905 good question. The normal process is provider (MD, DO, NP, PA etc) order, pharmacist checks it out and clears it then it will show up in the medication machine under the patient's profile.... If everything works properly and pharmacy is adequately staffed. You need an order to give the medication but not necessarily to obtain it. Imagine you're a patient in the hospital and the antibiotic you were just given made your blood pressure drop and break out in hives (a reaction). You call the nurse who contacts the doctor. The doctor orders IV benadryl. It's urgent and you can't wait until the pharmacist gets around it. You can't wait for the Nurse to troubleshoot a problem in the system. The nurse would have obtained that benadryl while still on the phone with the provider most likely. She gives you the benadryl and monitors your blood pressure. The list of what's available on override is reviewed by committees regularly and it is limited. Unfortunately sedatives and paralytics both need to be on the override list in an ICU. Vanderbilt had just changed their whole computer system and apparently it wasn't talking to the medication machine properly. It's a terrible situation and Radonda is accountable but Vanderbilt is also and they tried to cover it up.

[@StillBecca92]

The mercy and forgiveness that the victims family showed on Radonda is really admirable. Wish there was more of that in today’s society.

[@shantaykeys7548]

Right !

[@JordanWilliams-ix2td]

Couldn't be me, My loved one would have still been Alive if the nurse was paying attention To a bottle with a blatant red cap that said the medication name & what its used for CLEARLY right on the bottle. She's had SEVERAL mistakes giving meds before this one as well, it's on sight forever for me

[@erinsebestyen8152]

Exactly

[@120-e5h]

Dadonda should be locked up for manslaughter.

[@ceeceedior21]

Because it was an accident?

[@JoseReyes-jy8nj]

As a nurse i strongly sympathize with her. Working 12 hours shifts is the norm in most hospitals and it causes brain drain in most cases. My condolences to the family of the patient 😢

[@kimmyymmik]

She saw a huge red warning on the bottle and still gave it to the patient,

[@glassycreek1991]

@@kimmyymmik you don't know how tired you can be as a nurse, you really don't. I 100% believe that she was just that mentally exhausted to not even register the color.

[@bigphatemergy]

@@glassycreek1991….eh, thats alarming as a potential patient lmao

[@glassycreek1991]

@@bigphatemergy yes, i agree. Everyone should be alarmed at the conditions nurses are suppose to work in because ultimately the patient suffers. Advocate for fair patient to nurse ratios to help.

[@yunosdoll]

@@bigphatemergythen don’t be a patient? You don’t work as a nurse nor have done 12 hour shifts so shut up.

[@abrown4125]

I don’t think people understand that this also a problem with the medical system, under staffed, long exhausting hours, and you don’t expect a mistake to occur? These errors occur all the time in the hospital and it’s absolutely horrible, but she is not the only one making mistakes in the hospital setting.

[@youubik]

Medics make mistakes everyday of the week, but the scumbags usually cover their tracks

[@Biscuit9891]

they made a CHOICE to have that job. i have no sympathy for them

[@cassiejackson5822]

Her unit was not understaffed.

[@kadenhiggins9338]

@@Biscuit9891 but no one chose to work under the conditions they work in! I’m a retired RN and the load of patients, their level of care, lack of breaks, no meals or bathroom breaks, the stress of being overworked, yelled at by patients family and/or doctors WILL take a toll on you! Something a nurse does during his/her shift that isn’t intentional should NOT be criminalized! That’s just insane! It’s never happened before. There’s been nurses in the past that have administered the wrong medication and caused harm or death to the patient but no criminal charges were ever filed! Why now??

[@ewjiml]

@@Biscuit9891 Why do people like you always victim blame and say dumb statements like that. It probably means you work a meaningless job with no stress.

[@kendallseigworth8683]

The Murphy family standing up and advocating for keeping the nurse out of prison is beautiful to me. Class acts.

[@Rozie32]

She deserves prison

[@nicolebailey4426]

They are hurt but realize this wasn't intentional. My grandmother lost her leg to a transit bus driver. While I was angry my grandmother said on her final days on this earth, it was an accident and I forgive the driver. So I felt if she could forgive then so shall. I believe that the family in this case knew their loved one ❤️. I used to be a Registered Nurse for 20 years and I am disabled now so you have to provide safe care. Alot of changes are going to happen in Healthcare because a result of understaffed has been an issue with nursing for years. I feel bad for everyone involved.

[@guysumpthin2974]

Hospice???????

[@vinlennox7658]

I'm glad the nurse did not get prison. But can't really expect to do this with NO consequences.

[@laurenmacneill1617]

100%, some families would not have been so understanding.

[@catcrazed]

I left nursing a few years ago. Too much abuse. My peace of mind now is so much better.

[@keegangold9765]

I teach nurses for a living. They consist of some of the best people I have ever met. And because of that, I agree, people abuse them. It is absolutely heartbreaking the amount of shift work, drama, and more they have to take from everyone (outside of patients who can make it rough).

[@_GandalfTheGrey_]

What do you do now ? You worked so hard to go to nursing school

[@DhonaTimm]

me too

[@1saamor897]

it wasnt for you then. go do something else

[@seroquelchamber]

as a sick person whose been around a lot of nurses i both have a lot of respect for them and im terrified of them. because i have been on the other side of a nurses mistake a few times, and they arent always gracious like this woman. that being said i know that nurses are worked into the ground and the entire medical field operates horribly within capitalism. i would never dream of blaming a nurse for a systemic issue. all i ever hear in every hospital i am in is how they dont have enough staff, they have been working for 10-15-20 hours.... for everyones sake from nurses to patients, that needs to stop

[@stonewall5792]

I'm a pilot. We HAVE to have rest. Fatigue can kill us at anytime when we fly. This is the same for nurses and should be recognized!

[@pdxpj]

AND professional commercial pilots also have checklists!!

[@stonewall5792]

@@pdxpj IMSAFE checklist - Illness - Medical - Stress - Alcohol - FATIGUE - External Pressures/Factors

[@Annie-ec4po]

If you cnt fulfill your duties, get a office job. No excuse

[@j0s3phXO]

​@@rachelzwicker8731a fact is a fact no matter who says it

[@rachelzwicker8731]

@@j0s3phXO also , you did you didn’t answer my question? What career position do hold that even simple mistake could have catastrophic consequences ?

[@MissTaesTalesForToddlers]

I quit nursing because of this. Scares me to death. I personally can’t work a job where I could potentially make such a tragic mistake.

[@nauticdixons]

Me too.

[@kind2423]

Me three

[@eugeniasalmon8182]

I retired because of the toxic environment

[@dreamwishergirl]

Going through the same thing, but with teaching. I accidentally left a child alone in the bathroom today . I had 20+ kids to watch and teachers are also in charge of childrens lives except we don’t get paid at all. I get $16 an hour. That is poverty wages. And this is at a private school.

[@dreamwishergirl]

The child didn’t die thank GOD just shaken up

[@somewhrntm]

EVERY medical person has made at least one mistake in their career. I’m glad that the family forgave her.

[@triciagrant2315]

True. However, most of us haven't had a critical error that killed someone.

[@somewhrntm]

@@triciagrant2315 agreed

[@sixtogallardojr560]

Yes they made one with my wife they killed her baby

[@guysumpthin2974]

And everyday someone is overdosed in a hospice “palliative care” (not every facility, but most facilities) : my insurance mans brother-in- law , friends father , bank tellers mom , my customer … weak in the legs, everything else works great and a day later they’re in a “chemical coma” joints locked, cant poop , occasionally slightly come out of it just to hallucinate, and they give them more morphine on a sponge without hydration , black fingernails, pronounced dead

[@bswogger4656]

But mistakes that do not kill are not reviewed for criminal negligence. I was a nurse & needed my gallbladder out. These nurses mocked me. Anaphylaxis ER heart hospital saved my life but office staff, nurses & some weirdo “case managers” none medical refused follow up. Those nurses and office staff retaliated. 12-3-2011 to date that anaphylaxis not followed up 8-31-2022 is proof how disgustingly neglected and maliciously terrorized! Sorry she feels justices in her error.

[@kylecurryyt]

The hospital should have shared accountability.

[@kimlong-sf9ke]

Yes. Because too many times nurses are expected take on too many patients.

[@Materialgirl_3]

What? 🤔 why do you think that the hospital should be held accountable for one of their employees mistake? I’m trying to understand your logic but I just can’t

[@polly6795]

For now on all nurses will stop reporting their errors with fear of been criminally charge

[@tee8248]

Absolutely.....the more patients you are assigned....the higher the possibility of medical errors.

[@tee8248]

@@Materialgirl_3 Pharmacy should have received an alert as soon as the drug was removed and contacted the nurse and the doctor to verify and to provide respiratory support to the patient. BIG system FAILURE.

[@emrej2527]

Save one life you’re a hero, save hundreds and you’re a nurse. I hope that she can remember all of those that she helped along the way as well.

[@5826patt]

Lose one and now you’re a murderer 🥺🤯 I just don’t understand this .

[@lucasfiggy467]

​@5826patt because she didnt loose her she killed her accidentally but she killed her

[@ConorGlennon-o5d]

Nurses don't save lives Doctors do get over yourself

[@Katherine-mf9wz]

@@ConorGlennon-o5dwhat do you know about nursing or even about healthcare!

[@Ktreneice]

@@ConorGlennon-o5da nurse can actually save lives by checking an error. Sometimes doctors move fast or are distracted and order things that a patient actually doesn’t need. Doctors make mistakes too, that’s why nurses check orders, verify with the doctor and assess the patient to make sure it’s actually what they need. I’m not saying you’re wrong but nurses do save lives. There have been plenty of times nurses caught things that the doctor doesn’t see and it literally saves their life

[@cececooke7684]

In college, my school made sure every graduating RN read the state’s Nurse Practice Act. I left the bedside after 1 year due to unsafe work practices and knowing there was no way I could provide SAFE patient care with the patient caseload and amount of responsibilities. The US should pass a federal law to limit patient caseloads in the hospitals!

[@lotusgrl444]

I believe certain states have done that, I think one that I read about was CA but the hospital lobbyists have so much more $ and power

[@heather6910]

I’m a lab tech. I’ve worked under extreme conditions at a hospital to the point where it would be impossible to not make a mistake. You can only push a human so far. Negligence is one thing, but hospitals are notorious for putting workers in overwhelming situations to where taking half a minute to check your work is not possible. That’s why I quit.

[@t.k.3895]

Amen!

[@moni5409]

I’m a new lab tech and definitely felt this today 😓

[@guyarrol582]

Each individual is responsible for making sure they are not overwhelmed and not exhausted.

[@moni5409]

@@guyarrol582 that’s true. Everyone tells me you gotta take care of yourself first always!

[@vasculardisease02]

Exactly the same for me. Good for you! ☺️

[@JohnsonKayla12]

I waited at the doctors office for 6 hours a few days ago when I tested positive for COVID-19 and the doctor who came in - immediately I could see how exhausted she was. She told me she was on a 12 hr+ shift and still wasn’t going to be able to go home after me. The receptionist was eating lunch at her desk at 7pm because she was there for so long too. This is what these nurses and doctors have to go through and it’s ridiculous.

[@BellaR.]

I forgot to pee for 6 hours one day, my first and last UTI. Never again…take care of yourselves nurses

[@vell2994]

This is kind of the situation in every country in the world. This makes me sick

[@Candy-sy6eo]

I used to work ICU and after a long shift, they would beg us to stay and work another shift - all because of so-called "Managed Care (neglect)" cutting down on nursing staff.

[@jessicasilverman4920]

Mental heath therapist have the same work schedule

[@MTknitter22]

@@Candy-sy6eoyes and nurses must start standing up in UNITY and say no. For 40 years, I have seen there is NO real state or national leadership for registered nurses. Teachers have unions that fight like lions publicly for teachers. Some nurse unions fight but mostly just for pay but more they should be doing. When will the nurses decide to stand up in unity and speak out? We seem fine just going with the flow.

[@Cpl_Clegg]

I wish cops were held accountable half as much as this

[@sonshinetres4541]

This is one reason why I never finished nursing school and went into another healthcare related field. The main reason was the toxic environment that seems inherent in nursing. I've witnessed nurses whose behavior made me believe they would eat their young they were so cold and evil to fellow nurses. Its a real thing whether nurses want to admit it. I'm glad to see this nurse got a lot of support from the nursing community.

[@kennykool100]

Absolutely! I worked in long-term care for 15 years and I will say that 75% of all staff had absolutely NO business being around the elderly, the sick or the vulnerable. I pity anyone in a health crisis who doesn’t have an advocate to keep tabs on them and their care.

[@christinedillingham]

This is so true beyond belief

[@angelikalaser7778]

I think all nurses are overworked. When depressed and burned out, there is no energy to have empathy.

[@nicolebailey4426]

I am sorry for your experience and I used to be a nurse for 20 years. I will,agree that we eat our young hell we even admit amongst ourselves. I have worked with some great nurses meaning teamwork. For example if your tasks are done and you see someone drowning you ask that person do you help. I have been a victim of when you have to go to another floor sometimes you might get the patients that are the worst. It's OK you did what was best for you. Leadership is from management to the more senior nurses. Nursing can be toxic at times but rest assured if a patient is in serious trouble all hands are on board. Sometimes we have birthday parties baby showers Pollyanna last day of work or retirement parties. Most places are not union like Temple University Hospital they are the highest paid and they have a kick ass union. Good luck in your profession

[@nicolebailey4426]

@@helicopterguy1 As a former Registered Nurse; that was unprofessional. You are a visitor, patient and staff we have boundaries and mutually are to be respectful. You have a good spirit and thank you for visiting your family it helps patients feel more comfortable 😊

[@thestillroombotanicals2932]

I know that feeling of the heart drop. I worked in an immunohematology lab in a trauma 1 hospital in 2016 and made a similar mistake when assigning a bag of blood to a premature baby in NICU. Luckily, my mistake was caught by a coworker, but had it not been caught it could have killed the baby. I was horrified and I’m still traumatized by it. At the time I felt alone and like I was the only person who had ever done something like this.

[@TheJakecakes]

I worked in NICU, it's probably the most stressful modality in nursing. You certainly are not the only one. Every transfusion was terrifying.

[@jasonkushner8577]

in FL at least, blood transfusions need more than 1 nurse to approve this to ensure this doesn't happen! maybe we do the same with pharmaceutical medications in addition to the 3 checks

[@MelanieBarrozo-u7s]

That's exactly why we do need policies in place to ensure two or three people are signing off on a decision and it never all falls on just one person. It's not just to protect the nurses but to protect patient lives.

[@ginainfantino411]

💜

[@ginainfantino411]

@@jasonkushner8577Exactly

[@BrittanyShea90]

You have nurses that are passionate and make honest mistakes, then you have ones that are just there, I’ve worked with both. Two months ago while admitted, a nurse gave my mom the wrong medication that she was actually allergic to, then gave her a Benadryl and said oh you’ll be ok. Nursing is not for everyone.

[@Buzz0Killington]

Agreed

[@catsberry4858]

That's what my father says: "they're just there. They have no real passion or care for people. It's all over their demeanor consistently, that they're only there, but not in it in their hearts" I totally believe you. A CNA changed my mother's gown, and left her naked in the cold, waiting for minutes, without even finding a sheet for her, all because she "thought the replacement gown" was there with them. She didn't think to just put the old gown back on her. When I asked her to not handle it this way in the future, even tho she really thought the new gown was there, SHE YELLED AT ME. TWICE. for not being OK that my mother was left naked and in the cold and Uncovered!! She made it a bigger issue by feeling the need to YELL at me over her own mistake!!! Ive seen the sh****** ppl not be fired from hospitals.

[@privatelifejust_4me]

@@catsberry4858 Yes. They keep the toxic ones and I’m sure she was one of them who needed to be humbled!!!

[@MTknitter22]

yes Brittany Shea and those were once weeded out, they are not anymore

[@jeremiahtray5621]

Can't be that passionate if you're making that mistake.

[@gmcconcord]

This and so many many more reason is why I will NEVER EVER go back to working in the hospital again. You could not pay me enough. I know we need people to work in the hospital and I am grateful for them. It just won’t be me. Nurses are set up to fail from the moment they clock in. Nurses are set up to be the scapegoat for every occurrence. We are told his nurses that we are responsible for everything because it is our hands that are the last ones that touch the patient. Yes, we make mistakes. No we do not mean to make those mistakes. But we are the only ones ever held accountable. I will never work at the hospital again. I would rather work at Walmart than to go back to the hospital. May this poor nurse and the poor family affected find peace. I think this family is wonderful for being able to forgive her in spite of the tragedy. This is the example of true human compassion.

[@sc4112]

I’m a healthcare professional and have continuously carried high-intensity case loads, so I understand the concerns around the charges brought against her. However, she selected the wrong medication, ignored multiple label warnings, and admitted that she was distracted with a side conversation and also that she was confused by the med requiring reconstitution with water. Her actions weren’t malicious, but she employed extremely poor clinical judgment skills in this case at the very least. I’m pleased that she isn’t serving time in prison but feel better that she won’t be responsible for making any more life and death decisions on behalf of patients.

[@jenngibbs4559]

Love your reply.

[@AquarianStar3]

Exactly. This is why drs have insurance to practice. Nurses should too. Accident happen but just like a cop grabbing taser or gun. She's paid good cause responsibility. It's part of the job.

[@joannbowden6220]

Any nurse who doesn't carry their own liability insurance is playing with 🔥 IMO!

[@rickyspanish4951]

you haven't said what type of "healthcare professional" you are - assuming your "high-intensity case loads" are equivalent to hers is very disingenuous. She made mistakes working within the context of a very broken system - a system that resulted in mistakes every day - and if staff were less diligent, many more would have reached patients. Many of the mistakes listed weren't even mistakes - they were adaptations the workers had to make in order to meet a basic standard of care. For example, overriding the computer system was necessary daily. Her mistake of leaving the patient was also necessary in the context to continue care for other patients. Did you read the report on the medical centre, or is it irrelevant to look at the overall system (as the prosecution claimed)? And even if you make the giant leap that these actions were grossly negligent, what does that do for safety? Staff will do their best to hide mistakes in the future. Issues of training, rostering and the malfunctioning computer system will be suppressed because they can simply blame a person. The system will simply keep producing inadequate results (which staff have to work extra hard to avoid) and firing the person in the unfortunate position of making the last mistake, to the detriment of patients and the wider community. Next time you make a medication error, or ignore an alarm, or whatever, let me know. I'll be ready to send you to court.

[@oliverwhite7465]

I pray the family takes civil action.

[@CharlotteAndWhiskey]

I'm a veterinary nurse and it is SO easy to make mistakes when you're overwhelmed with patients and you're burnt out, exhausted, emotionally drained. It shouldn't have to be that way. Terrible situation for all involved.

[@darkmode867]

How many animals have you killed that belonged someone? Don't make excuses for someone not doing their job properly. Also a vets office has so much less protocol. This was someone not reading and just doing. Not to mention she was training someone. If your training someone you should be more attentative to what your doing so you can show them the proper way. There is no excuse for this at all sorry I used to work 20 hour days 5 days a week and the other two were 16 hour days and I didn't screw up. Never once got hurt or anything. This is just pure lack of caring.

[@CharlotteAndWhiskey]

@@darkmode867 I haven’t killed any animals you douche bag. You clearly have no experience of nursing. So bye bye

[@whyaddnamehere]

@@darkmode867 20 hour days for 5 days...ya, going to call bs on that.

[@rixyz7013]

@@darkmode867 you ain’t even hit puberty yet 🤣

[@angelwings7930]

Don’t make excuses.

[@rob8392]

what a story, so hard on both sides, and the final act of forgiveness, that's just amazing.

[@mysweetnessc6784]

Yes, she seems genuinely sorry & distraught over her very human mistake. The family being warm & forgiving of her fatal error is honorable. These are examples of our good hearted people on earth.

[@beverleymitchell4400]

@@mysweetnessc6784 Agree

[@littlemaelights8995]

I would never forgive her if it was her who murdered my mom. Yes murdered because there was a clear label that this little bimbo didn't read. I'd wish for a very very harsh punishment for that. Life without parole maybe in solitary

[@greeneyedbaldy]

I recently graduated from nursing school, and I'll never forget what one of our lab instructors said to us. "As a nurse the best way to keep patients safe is to never get too complacent and always remain a bit on edge, because once you start to get too complacent that's when you'll begin overlooking things and mistakes will happen."

[@nurseraynemoorern674]

She missed a simple task. Nursing school drills the 7 rights of medication. Had she checked all at the beside again before giving she wouldn't have made this mistake. Be cautious and don't forget the basics.

[@clarke6814]

she seems like a genuinely good person. Even the family of the victim forgives for for her mistake (mistake, not crime!). RaDonda, I only wish you the best, I hope you will get through this. To all the nurses out there, I hope the system changes 🧡. I used to be in hospital a lot as a kid and it was the nurses that got me through 💜

[@waldorocha604]

This is called white privilege. If that nurse was black, her fate would be much different and that's a fact.

[@waldorocha604]

@Maria Isabel It is and it's punishable for everyone, but my point is that if the nurse was black, the court would have given her a rougher sentence.

[@zakbauman9319]

This nurse would have killed you. She was negligent. You don’t know the facts. It got political. That’s why she got off. I lived there.

[@zakbauman9319]

@@waldorocha604 surely you are kidding! Do you only watch CNN? Anyway…In this time she would never have been prosecuted …for political reasons

[@waldorocha604]

@@zakbauman9319 who the hell turns the tv on these days to watch "news"? Clearly you because you brought it up.

[@NolaPie]

In nursing school they teach you that medication errors happen sometimes and they can be fatal. They teach you to hold yourself accountable and you have to report it. She did everything she was supposed to do.

[@darkmode867]

Or or you can just read the labels and what the doctor says to give. I mean tbh I read and make sure any medication I take is what I am intending to take I also administer my grandparents meds for them and my wife's and as long as you have a list of what and when and can read and you care you won't make that mistake. But at the end of the day if someone was driving a forklift at work and let's say mistakes the gas pedal for the brake what do you think is gonna happen when he hits and kills someone. He's going to jail for manslaughter. Negligence just shows uncaring behavior and honestly I'm fed up with the way nurses have been treating patients. Treat everyone like such trash it's horrible

[@kirak584]

@@darkmode867 you clearly do not work in healthcare. if you have worked a day in the hospital, you would understand the amount of stress, nurses are put through. I'm not condoning what RaDonda did was right but mistakes do happen and sometimes these mistakes are unfortunately irreversible and fatal. Mediciation errors happen, we are human and nurses are no different.

[@allieponce8229]

Come be a nurse

[@katrinarivett5428]

@@darkmode867 lmao. Tell me you don’t work in healthcare without telling me don’t. Your comments are so foolish and just stupid

[@darkmode867]

@@kirak584 it doesn't matter where you work any error can be fatal at any job. Also there are plenty of jobs that are way more stressful that a nurses job. Maybe we shouldn't let just anyone become a nurse and screen better cause obviously you guys can't handle alittle stress or read a freaking chart. You legit have the easier version of this job with today's advantages in medicine and technology and your saying you still manage to mess up and cost people their lives? Yet we see nurses standing at the nurses station and other places making tik toks but your job is so stressful and you are so busy lol apparently not busy enough to put down a phone.

[@nikemuko.164]

Am a nursing student and this makes me think so much about my decision.

[@glassycreek1991]

Don't do it

[@albertmatunda5387]

Prayers everyday.

[@frostyshower2031]

Me too

[@shanekaervin6733]

Pray about it. There are still some rewards in nursing but learn from this story and allow it to motivate you to be a great nurse

[@Moriningland]

I’ve been a nurse for 12 years. First off, I hate this crap about “I can’t use the bathroom”. Yes you can! Go use the bathroom and ask your coworkers to cover you. No one is expecting you to not eat or use the bathroom. Second, I’ve worked on a lot of floors and the main problem with nursing is nurses. So many of them are toxic, bullies who do not have any patience for new, growing nurses. We have a saying “nurses eat there young”. If you don’t hit the ground running, you’re likely to get bullied by your staff members who don’t accept you’re learning. Then they turn around and complain about staffing shortages. Just shut up. I was almost forced out of the career earlier on because it took me extra time to grow. I was told how awful I was and how I was a bad nurse and I resigned before they could fire me. Then, lo and behold, I moved to a larger, more prestigious hospital and I not only succeeded but won awards at my next job. Me being awful was just their opinion. The key in nursing is to find a good floor with good people to work with. If you end up on an average floor with average, toxic nurses you’re going to hate this field. But if you can find a good floor with good people who work together and help each other, there’s no better field to work in.

[@Voicenreason247]

This happens in all the trades. Not a coincidence it's happening in policing fire fighting military they have become clubs.

[@randyhickman6491]

This is well said! I am finishing Nursing school and have experienced this first hand in clinicals. The nurses scoff and roll their eyes when asked if they will take a student. Nurse can be some of the most toxic people. I am glad you found where you fit in @morninggland

[@SeminarioMAE]

@@Voicenreason247 no it especially happens with nurses

[@tammiescoyne9047]

I was going to be a nurse except for the fact that I hated other nurses

[@KathNoble]

My granddaughter was training to be a nurse and was bullied by the nurses in her work placements. My niece had the same problem.

[@apkr72]

Prayers for this nurse and the family of the patient. My husband had a stroke 3 years ago and spent 3 1/2 days in ICU. All his nurses were awesome. The entire stay I only saw 2 doctors. The first one went over the MRI explained some things the first full day at the nurses station. The 2nd one came in with a bunch of others another day to see where my husband was add medically. Never saw either again. It was his nurses and even the cleaning lady that filled me hope.

[@jennifermarie1230]

My husband has been in ICU for 2 weeks , I’ve seen a Dr Twice!! 2 times in 2 weeks!!

[@saquesas]

I'm not a nurse but worked with them on the floor for 10 years. The first week working I lost 5lbs without even trying. A nurse clocked her steps once and walked 10 miles on her 12 hour shift. They are badly overworked and forced to watch extra patients all the time. I know that nurse certainly did not mean to make that fatal mistake. I'm so sorry for the family. I saw nurses and doctors make mistakes. I even saw one mistake cause myocardial infarction but thank God she survived.

[@youtubingbabs]

@Mike Perone criminal. Absolutely criminal. And soulless. So sad.

[@geezycity7558]

But the black dude that killed 2 white Boys trying to rob him got 10 years but she get off scoot free

[@ashleyacosta2152]

So because she was fuking tired, it’s okay that she ignore multiple warnings call someone to lose their life.?! You don’t mean to kill someone but you accidentally do and you get charged with manslaughter but you’re not a “nurse” so you should go to jail right? But not her ??

[@bodixon2999]

All nurses work 12 hrs if u tired call in facts

[@Eckh4rt]

I'm a nurse, we knew what we were signing up for when we started clinicals. If you can't handle it, then QUIT! If you think being tired is an excuse for being negligent and killing someone? You're off your rocker.

[@bexyrexy]

I am so relieved to hear that she didn’t have to serve any actual prison time. This case disturbs me on a deep level. I hope she is doing okay right now

[@aldum14]

a lot of therapy and medication. When she spoke about the revelation of killing someone, you can see the devastation and complete hole she is in.

[@bettyvillegas9367]

A nurse administered a over dose of medication that killed a person 🤔 that's just devastating. Im sure this women who she killed wanted to live . And the pain that's left behind this mistake never goes away. It's life altering . This is pain to another level. It's takes you more then a step behind in life. this memory of what happened to this poor victim who died will haunt the victims forever. I'm sure the victim was a mother a grandmother a wife a sister a cousin so all were hurt over this and still hurting. It's one thing to die of naturel causes but to die from a over dose from a mistake a nurse made is devastating .. I know cuz it happened to me and my family we lost our mother due to a over dose. And you can't even begin to imagine the severe pain it left us all in..it never ends..

[@awright119021]

​@@bettyvillegas9367 the family of the victim has forgiven her and didn't want her to be punished. I'm sorry you're still hurting, but I think they made their feelings pretty clear. This was a mistake and being the wonderful people they are, they weren't looking for vengeance.

[@bettyvillegas9367]

@@awright119021 they didn't ask for forgiveness on my story although I do forgive the doctor and nurse but my fault blame me and hasn't talk to me in years this has separated a huge family that were very close and now because of their mistake I'm a outcast from my family and this 8s killing me slowly..I was talking about 5he damage it leaves behind . Not the forgiveness it's the pain . That never ends ..

[@bettyvillegas9367]

Let me correct my comment their is forgiveness I'm just suffering from the unforgiveness my family has towards me they blame me my mother was in my care and 8 had no idea they were hurting her at that facility. But it's a slow painful death of sadness and regret regret on my part that I wasn't there when they hurt my mother. On top of all that my family hates me we haven't talked in 16 yrs

[@tracycarvalho3269]

She was reckless and she doesn’t seem remorseful, blaming everyone else except herself. Medical professionals have the highest standard of responsibility yet she and her colleagues were protesting that “mistakes” that kill should be overlooked. Oops. She didn’t even READ the vial! What am I missing here? How is the family not outraged?

[@giakolou2876]

Exactly. When she said at the beginning that whole world feels she was a scapegoat… wow crimson flag. She’s a narcissist. Grandiose sense of self. At no point did she say “I made a mistake I’m vey sorry and regretful of it. I’m sorry for the hurt I caused and pain to the family.” At no point did she say that. Just shifting blame on her team on the medical profession. Good riddance to her. I can accept that mistakes happen even in medical industry but to have such cheek to say this after and not even take responsibility. Damnnn hope she never works in healthcare again

[@chastitygilmore-williams1454]

@@giakolou2876 She shouldn’t have been able to access a medication in the first place, that’s not on the patients prescribed med list.. so yeah it’s not completely her fault

[@carrielee6652]

I know how I've felt after making minor med errors, I can't imagine how she felt when she realized what she had done. We're all human, she is not a murderer or a bad person. I'm glad she didn't get any jail time, I hope she finds peace.

[@Lapusso650]

She ignored TEN safety protocols dipshit. She didn't even READ the name of the drug she used.

[@carrielee6652]

@studyhardplayhard they forgave her and didn't even want jail time for her. I'm sure I would be devastated but I hope I would be able to be as forgiving as they are, and realize it was a an accident with no ill intent.

[@carrielee6652]

@studyhardplayhard there was justice. She'll never be a nurse again. She's not a threat to anyone. She paid a ton of fines, she's on probation and she has to live with this for the rest of her life. She's been punished enough. I'm assuming you're not a nurse or in the medical field so I don't expect you to understand, but what if your spouse or mother or daughter was a nurse? Would you want them being thrown in jail and labeled a murderer because they made an human error when you know they are a good person who loves people and when never intentionally hurt anyone?

[@samanthathony1793]

She looked remorseful but at the same time she didnt take full responsibility. She mentioned the hospital needed to take blame and she even blamed it on the person she was training saying she was distracted? Poor family.

[@judgykaeru]

@studyhardplayhard Do you even understand what the word “murder” is? Murder denotes premeditation. Your argument and reasoning are invalid.

[@TheVeggiekat]

I used to work as a nurse’s aide. I left after routinely being assigned over 20 patients. One day I was assigned 43 patients. Imagine 43 patients who need help being fed, 43 patients who need adult brief changes, patients who need bathed, help getting dressed, help moving between their bed and wheelchair. I truly cared for my patients but I couldn’t stay. The workload was impossible (and well above the legal limit of 15 patients per nurse’s aide) The nursing home never got in trouble for understaffing. Any problems got blamed on the nurses or nurse’s aides and to add insult to injury, I was getting paid less than the McDonald’s down the street was offering.

[@AllAboutPurple]

I feel you as a former CNA. The lack of staffing is so horrible, not fair to the patients or the nurse aides.

[@ccrbonline1752]

I too worked at a nursing home while in college. It's the only job I've ever walked out on - for the exact same reasons you've listed. The day before I quit I reported seeing another aid slap a patient multiple times because the patient wasn't cooperating with being dressed. The next day that aid was still working there. It infuriated me. The Director of Nursing had the audacity to ask me, "Don't you care about the patients?" as I walked out when I quit. I told her I did, then asked her if she did. I reported the facility to the state and within 6 months they were shut down. The experience deeply affected the way my parents were taken care of as seniors, my brother or I visited daily and kept a close eye on everything that happened to our parents. I'm sure the staff was put out with us, but the one time we caused a problem for them our mother was going into congestive heart failure after open heart surgery as the staff tried to tell us she was just "tired". I have great sympathy for seniors who have no one looking out for them. I am sure many deaths happen in nursing homes due to plain old negligence.

[@julienorfolk3880]

As a former Army Nurse, I stand with this former nurse. Safe staffing does save lives! I, as a civilian nurse, had to work 12 hour shifts and not enough staff to cover for my breaks. In the military we deal with even more stressors. Nurses are usually the first to be found on the chopping block! It’s time to stop and face the facts so that things can change!

[@marivipalomino6975]

I bet you do. What about patients who pay huge amounts of money to receive a decent medical service and put their lives literally in the doctors' and nurses' hands. It is a sad situation but we are talking about responsibility and accountability. A person is dead because she was given the wrong drug. Who is responsible? Who is accountable? That's the fact. The overwork, the long hours, the lack of personnel are mitigating factors for a less severe sentence but they cannot be used to absolve the person responsible for this death.

[@sherrymdsrn]

The hospital should have been charged with murder

[@rebekah1362]

@@marivipalomino6975 I get what you're saying and respect your opinion. But ultimately, Mrs. Murphy's family didn't think it fair to have RaDonda imprisoned. She did not deny her culpability at all. That wasn't what was in question. It was clear from the beginning she is the one who made the mistake. The question behind the case was was she the only one culpable. The trial's conclusion revealed the truth - no, she wasn't. As for RaDonda "paying", anyone can clearly see, she's a sensitive individual and will "pay" for the rest of her life. Just because she's not in a physical prison doesn't mean she is not "paying". And in the end, the Murphy family forgave the nurse. They are the only one's whose opinions truly matter. They knew she was not malicious, unrepentant or even trying to deny responsibility. She's a human-being. Unfortunately, we as humans can make one life-changing and tragic mistake. I pray we can all find compassion and mercy when we need it. Thankfully the Murphy family was able to look beyond their pain and find forgiveness and compassion.

[@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep]

Uhhh mistake? Did you see all the "mistakes" she had to make ALL TOGETHER to make the BIG one? The number is 18. Count to 18. I can't fathom how she isn't in jail right now.

[@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep]

@@deedeebel1 So you are telling me legally here bad company policy here supersedes liability for personal negligence within that policy? I'm shocked the law works like that, just think of any common sense scenario and the worker saying "just following policy."

[@michellevanburen9972]

!!This made me cry!!! I had considered a career in the medical field and this is EXACTLY what prevented me. Too much on the line if you're not 'perfect' . Takes a special kind of bravery and Thank GOD there are ones out there to take the risk.

[@Michael-gs8og]

That's why EMT/Paramedic is the way to go.

[@certifiedlover2748]

@@Michael-gs8ogbut there is no money in those fields.

[@Michael-gs8og]

@@certifiedlover2748 There are, if one moves up to management!!!

[@michellevanburen9972]

Who's making it about money? Don't do that it'll never be enough

[@Michael-gs8og]

@@certifiedlover2748 It's called money management.

[@Wideawake4]

That’s why I left nursing years ago. As the nurse, everything falls on YOU. It’s not fair. The system is so screwed up. You are set up to fail. Not worth it…

[@eliadavis3881]

this is why i never made it as a nurse. Way too much of a responsibility.

[@Wideawake4]

@@eliadavis3881 you are right, waaay to much responsibility. I was terrified at the start of every shift 😭

[@AnaLucia-wy2ii]

We carry this responsibility every time we get behind the wheel. I am surprised at how vindictive people are when it was clearly an error that anyone could make. It’s actually pretty disturbing.

[@Wideawake4]

@@AnaLucia-wy2ii Thats true, but when we get behind the wheel, we are set up for success. You just have to worry about yourself and what you’re doing. We have vehicles with so much automation they can help us stay in the lane, break before we rear end someone, blind spot monitoring, etc. It could be the same way for nursing, but it’s not. There is so much responsibility on the nurse. Too much. Nurse to patient ratio is insane. Admits, discharges, codes, charting, giving meds, treatments. Talking to patients and families. ITS TOO MUCH. Filthy rich people at the top, not willing to take a pay cut and hire more workers. It shouldn’t feel like going into battle every shift. We need nurses and other medical staff. People will continue to quit. Then what will happen?

[@wbl5649]

this is why I would never take any job that has any kind of liability...I would not even babysit..an accident happens, child got hurt etc you could be sued to oblivion or even arrested

[@michaelgryciuk2719]

“you don’t point your finger in health care, you hold yourself accountable and ask what could I have done better, what could “the team” have done better” - best attempt at accountability from a nurse ever

[@obviousness8113]

Any system that routinely requires an override for things like IV fluids is broken. She did make mistakes but the system they had in place to prevent this from happening, actually enabled it to happen.

[@corinnekae1736]

Systemic error

[@ytr3488]

@@corinnekae1736

[@corinnekae1736]

@@ytr3488 🍵

[@youmadhuh6375]

Oh, I would've sued the hospital for sure for sure.. everyone would have to be punished.. the nurse who killed her have lost her license. The hospital would be next....

[@obviousness8113]

@@dm7uy I'm talking about what happened BEFORE that. They provided a system which requires an override very often. After a while, an override becomes routine, when it really should be a rare exception. And I'm not saying she was not at fault, but the hospital had a broken system which was just waiting for someone to come along and make a careless mistake. Good systems PREVENT you from making the mistake.

[@karennagel-smith6648]

To the family of Ms. Murphy, as a nurse, I am deeply sorry for your loss. Your forgiveness of Radonda brought me to tears but reminds me of what we are supposed to do. There was only One Perfect Person & He Forgave Us.

[@dessaml18]

I'm a nurse and I have made med errors, though none that ever hurt anyone (all nurses have at least once, and if you say you haven't then you're even more scary because it means you have made one and didn't know). It's an awful feeling even if no one is hurt. A medication like that should take 2 people to sign it out.

[@lightingthedarkremoteviewi8086]

True, dangerous medications should take more precautions to administer. Tho all of them can be dangerous but still.

[@Krislt9]

Can you give a harmless example of medication error? I have a job interview and they asked me but I’m a new grad and didn’t know how to answer.

[@dessaml18]

@@Krislt9 they can all be harmful depending on the person, but for instance we don't use a Pyxsis where I work, the meds are in drawers that code lock, the loratidine was next to the cetirizine, both all antihistamine drugs. I grabbed the wrong one. So was the patient hurt? No. But it's still a med error.

[@palee8928]

@@Krislt9 maybe a vitamin? Or a saline flush for example.

[@diplomat2623]

I’ve made small ones. Primarily forgetting to cut one of the pills in half, for example if the order called for 1.5 tablets.

[@lifeofvivi]

The same thing happened to my dad. Was given the wrong medication which he had a reaction and slipped into a coma. Brain was swelling and caused him to be paralyzed and he eventually died. They said it was a stroke and but it was later revealed what that nurse did. I just have mixed emotions about this. When I watched this it brought back memories of my dad

[@Letherrrcook]

Very very mixed

[@sjt5346]

Exactly. How often does this happen and it gets passed off as a stroke or heart attack?

[@shayla8713]

@@sjt5346 I'm worried that the criminal charges will just lead to more covering up. I would rather my nurses feel free to tell the truth

[@datdude89]

So sorry what happened to your dad. But he wasnt murdered.

[@lomaxlomax6152]

Awww, I’m so sorry this happened to you. And I think that’s a big thing in this case, lots of people are forgetting the family. Stuff like this should never happen. I understand your mixed feeling and they are valid and ok.

[@sakitoby1581]

My loved one has had numerous brain procedures in the neuro ICU in the past 5 yrs. All the neuro ICU nurses that have cared for my loved one have been fabulous. Not a bad one in the bunch. All caring, conscientious, hardworking. They have a big workload and they're human. Tiny mistakes have been made. Nothing dangerous. I feel so bad for this nurse. We all make mistakes but this one was a very tragic one, unfortunately. I appreciate the wonderful care from all the nurses who have helped my family, as well as the doctors, even the housekeeping and orderly staff. All so appreciated. THANK YOU.

[@THEMIDNIGHTCHOPPER]

Been a nurse 10 years. Worked as an anesthesia tech for 8 years. Point is, I’ve been around these medications for 18 years. The biggest red flag I see is vecuronium comes prepared as a powder and midazolam (versed) comes prepared as a liquid. If she accidentally pulled out vecuronium she would of then had to take an additional step to reconstitute that medicine into liquid form. That right there should have triggered her brain…when have you ever had to reconstitute versed? Every Hospital I’ve worked at vecuronium comes in a vial in powder form. So what does that mean? If she was busy and had to quickly give some anxiety meds for a patient going through a scanner (which is very common) she would of grabbed her vial of versed. But she didn’t, she grabbed vecuronium, which was most likely a vial filled with powder. THATS THE CRUCIAL POINT. A seasoned icu nurse would know you never have to reconstitute versed. But what could of prevented this? She obviously didn’t look at the vial when drawing up med.

[@cindyds10]

That’s what i thought too. Like did she even read the bottle ? I’m in the medical and give injections all the time and i make sure I read that vial more than once and check the chart to make sure after I’ve drawn the meds just to check one last time.

[@ilovecanines]

Agree. She skipped every safeguard, and besides skipping the 3 checks and 7 patient rights of medication administration, she apparently didn't even recognize the drug form! Inexcusable!

[@lisamiles8957]

I agree, I worked ICU for 10 years. Versed comes in a tiny brown bottle. Vercuronium is in a medium size bottle that has to be made into a liquid. One never ever gives Vercuonium without giving versed or MS as you don't want the patient to be paralyzed and conscious. So as you are mixing Vercuronium you are also getting versed or MS ready to give. Vercuronium is only ever given to someone on a vent. When I was with a nurse on orientation I was always walking and talking my thoughts to the nurse in training. But this was a mistake and the hospital needs to be held accountable for not having a better system.

[@jenifad9959]

Go take several seats. It bully know it all so called critical care nurses like you that make the profession horrible. Shut up!!!

[@jenifad9959]

Systemic errors is what the findings was.

[@pearlgracestillpearl7441]

As a chronically ill person who spends half of my life in the hospital; I can unbiasedly attest to nurse’s being over extended, constantly having to make due with too many patients per nurse, shortage of supportive staff such as MA’s. Having to fix errors the previous shifts staff made etc. This is all while having to document every breath a patient takes AND being there to hold the patients hand and calm their fears. There was nothing malicious or intentional about this incident. Should it be looked into and have some new training procedures installed, sure. A woman to go to PRISON, loose everything she worked for and have a label that will follow her forever is not equal to the situation. I feel compassion for the family but, I also recognize that mistakes happen. I’ve had many medical mistakes happen to myself. I would never expect the professional at fault to be criminally charged. This is a very slippery slope and setting a precedent for healthcare workers to now work in fear or not work at all. The hospital and union should have protected her rather than throwing her under the bus.

[@suppertimesims]

Bad bait

[@brianredban9393]

Dude you can say that about any profession that involves customer care or services. Go try and live in any other country and see how good the medical care is.. most nurses love working longer hours because they are making 70 bucks a hour

[@honestfriend767]

@@brianredban9393 not really because in the U.S there is a nursing shortage causing the remaining nurses to take more workload.

[@mambeux]

@@brianredban9393 where is this “$75.00 an hr?

[@classicdufferin8739]

@@mambeux thats not true

[@sarahj6995]

I've been a nurse for 13 years and made my first ever med error recently. It was terrifying and I immediately told my charge. I was scanning meds too fast so one was missed. No harm came to the patient, I cannot imagine if it had how horrible I would feel. I'm so glad she didn't get jail time and I hope she finds peace.

[@mikemaiocco2538]

I think your comment brings light to this whole situation. I was trying to think of what to say but I think you covered it. Thanks

[@AB-by8xu]

You cant even write a proper sentence , how can i trust you ?

[@dhpitcher]

God bless you and thank you for everything that you do!

[@youmadhuh6375]

You caught your mistake though. She was so distracted she didn't even bother to read the medication and it's warning label.. that is crazy scary.

[@ANonyMouse627]

@@youmadhuh6375 She didn't catch her mistake. She said she gave the wrong med, but the patient was not harmed

[@MosesMatsepane]

My mom was a nurse, she passed away in 2020 in the frontline. She used to tell me about the types of conditions they worked under. This is so unfair, especially if there wasn't a history of gross negligence.

[@Ruma_Kaalis_Camoran]

what frontline ??

[@aynchurch]

right. she deserves our support in her time of need♥️

[@Yousayimcrazee]

@@Ruma_Kaalis_Camoran covid

[@angelwings7930]

🙄

[@yhu4455]

@@Ruma_Kaalis_Camoran another stupid...you do know about covid in 2020 right?

[@staceya.775]

As an autoimmune patient I’ve experienced WAAAAAAY more negligent incompetent doctors than i have nurses yet doctors are nevvvvvver held accountable

[@jondoh599]

You don't want to held accountable to the person (doctor) brining in the $$$$.

[@thelema3278]

Oh reeeeeeeaaaaaaallllllllyyyyyyyyy

[@menjiii01]

She was only an RN for 2 years! She was practically still a grad and already with a student. My goodness. What do they expect. They just discard her and wait for the next batch of eager, well meaning although ill informed new graduate nurses. The shelf life of a nurse is becoming shorter and shorter.

[@TheDarkness1]

Yup, and you don't even need a HS diploma to be a politician who only claim to serve the people. When was the last time a politician was prosecuted? This whole world is upside down.

[@stickerscat]

We have almost new grads as charge nurses on my floor, very scary!

[@menjiii01]

@@stickerscat this is so scary. I would be terrified as a patient as well. Your life is literally in the hands of someone that is still learning.

[@odar9729]

I also know too many d u m b nurses who partied in college and still drink today and I would never trust them, even as my friends, with A n e e d le. I haven’t met a nurse who didn’t d r I n k more than the average. Let me guess w I n e ? Yea, and you get paid enough but go vent to your g I r l s. That’s why I deep dive study my doctors and nurses. Yes I do. Last thing I need to know is she in vacation mood.

[@hawihawi9260]

Nurses are promoted too quickly with little experience. The job is too dangerous to be promoting people just like that.

[@kimzapanta91ify]

For the healthcare workers who expected jail time for Radonda, some day and some way, you might end up in the same position as her and you will beg for the same mercy that was shown to her. Not all mistakes are committed with malicious intent.

[@pamelaliegh]

👏 👏 👏. Yes. This ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️

[@GodWeenSatan]

But she did this multiple times

[@biancafigueroa9401]

Exactly 👏👏

[@SUGAR_XYLER]

She should still ask to serve time...you pay for your mistakes!

[@taevelli523]

But she kept making the same mistake. Her ass deserved jail time

[@brazilianqueen7773]

This is difficult to judge. I’m a healthcare professional, and I know how easy it is to make a mistake that can harm the patient. I’m as careful as I can be. But at the same time, if one of my loved ones died because a nurse neglected to do something so basic as reading a label with the name of the medication on the medication vial, I would want justice to be served. Even when I take medications, I make sure I read the label on the bottle. And then she didn’t scan the patient’s wrist band and vial. It was just a bunch of mistakes. It wasn’t just the override.

[@LMCEK]

Exactly. This nurse is guilty as hell of criminal negligence in my opinion

[@jrv5689]

Exactly. I agree. Nursing is hard and many errors can be made but there are the rights of medication administration that you follow. When dispensing medication, drawing up and administering.

[@adrienbeatty]

I appreciate you pointing this all out. I'm just a home health aide worker and know these basics. I agree with everything you said because as busy as she may have been or whichever excuse others are making, when giving that medication she should have been reading that label prior to administering it. That is just basic protocol with medications.

[@almartinez1817]

Thats right! Every safety barriers were broken. The hospital should be held accountable as well. You shouldn't be able to override a paralytic. Let's not also forget that the Vanderbilt hospital completely threw the nurse under the bus instead of providing some sort of support .

[@Gheorghe99]

Did you take your meds today?

[@kaileylareau7927]

Another RN here...I appreciate the rallying of the nursing community and the CRITICAL systemic hospital issues that were brought to light by this case. However, the amount of things Radonda had to ignore in order to make this mistake is extremely disturbing. Medications like Vecuronium are COVERED in bright red warning labels and require a second nurse to verify in order to pull it from the med machine. Additionally she literally had to reconstitute and prepare this med and must have never once looked at the vial while doing so, else she would have immediately noticed the warning labels. Then she didn't scan the med and the patient's bracelet as well. Like...this is actually legitimate gross neglect. And to think about the absolutely nightmarish death this patient had to experience after being slowly paralyzed by this drug...I can't. When I was working at the hospital, I was obsessively triple checking my meds even if I was giving something as benign as Tylenol because I was so concerned with causing any harm to anyone. Are we overworked, understaffed, taken absolutely for granted by hospitals and society? Absolutely. Does our healthcare system need an overhaul starting with the educational system which trains our healthcare professionals? No doubt. But I still cannot wrap my mind around how she was absent minded enough to make this mistake. As a nurse, you have more capability of killing someone in your hands than virtually any other member of the public, and that is something that you should always be thinking with. I left the hospital after a short time for many reasons but one of the biggest was that I couldn't stand how most people working there are operating at a MUCH lower level of responsibility than the situation warrants. If this situation scares you, whether you're a nurse or a member of the public, it should.

[@mespb]

It does sound to me like the hospital is also greatly at fault, because of their systems. Systems can be different. I worked with Epic, and I feel like their warnings and such were pretty clear, but I know others aren’t so much.

[@kathryn001]

This is why I'm doing everything I can right now, working hard, figuring out another career path, to get out of this professional for good.

[@bavariangirl123]

This brings back lots of memories of working in cardiology years ago. I am not a nurse but we routinely worked long shifts with being on call. It was not unusual to be at work from 7 am to 11 pm and then get called back in in the middle of the night. How many times did I not even remember my drive home. I always kept a jar of peanut butter at work because a couple of spoonfuls were my lunch many days. This needs to change! Medical workers are human beings.

[@disappeared9673]

It ends when medical workers like you stop accepting those conditions

[@triciagrant2315]

@@disappeared9673 Administration will hire foreign nurses to take our place at half the pay.

[@lotusgrl444]

what was your position! that is almost sweatshop abuse!

[@bavariangirl123]

Unfortunately, you will be shown the door.

[@celestialblue2146]

Wow that's inhumane!

[@mickylee6059]

I’m a nurse and when I first heard of this I was absolutely shocked. How could this happen? Then I think of all of the little inconsequential errors I’ve made. The Murphy family were so so lovely and I applaud them for their ability to see past the infallibility of humans.

[@iowastate358]

People who have responsibilities should not be held responsible for their own actions. You run over a child with your car, you should not be held responsible for accidentally killing the child!

[@ymReal]

@@iowastate358 I hope you are been sarcastic. If you are, I agree with you.

[@iowastate358]

@@ymReal yea people who accidentally kill people have always been held accountable imagine people who work in hospitals not having any responsibility for their actions will produce!?

[@2manybooks2littletime25]

Humans are Fallible, not Infallible. Only God is Infallible.

[@KayDejaVu]

I wish people would get info on this case. She had chance after chance to correct her error. She also (as I figured) she was not that rushed.

[@marycarson3515]

I’m so sorry for this nurse. Also so sorry for the family of the lovely lady who died❤️🥲

[@sydneygracec]

my grandfather died from an error made by a resident student at Vanderbilt. my heart hurts for the nurse but my heart BREAKS for the family who lost a loved one.

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

I definitely feel for both of them. You can tell that nurse isn't just feeling sorry for herself. She genuinely cares about that patient and her family. I also admire the family for speaking up for her. It is easy for them to forgive her, because they clearly have empathy and realize the mistakes they have all made, that could have led to something like this, but luckily did not.

[@montanagal6958]

really very true, I almost died from a mistake by a doctor and when I brought it up, was told to think about how the doctor felt

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

@@montanagal6958 Yeah, that's not good timing. I don't know who would just say that right off the bat, but it was definitely your time to get compassion.

[@erinthevirgo]

My mil died from heart problems that just 2 months earlier, a dr in the er overlooked when she went in for chest pains. She was made to feel like it was all in her head and was sent home. It happens all the time.

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

@@erinthevirgo It does happen often enough, probably too often. Chest pains can be so many things, but you'd think they'd take it more seriously these days. Women's heart disease rates are pretty much on par w/ men's these days, unfortunately.

[@LvChinaHateStupidity]

As a healthcare professional I can only imagine how hard it would’ve been and still is for the nurse, it’s harder for her to live than to die. The patient’s family is incredibly sympathetic. Hope you all find inner peace

[@yhu4455]

Why are you promoting suicide? You must a depression!!!

[@Tiger-cm2rp]

The medication she gave is the most egregious medication error I’ve ever seen. I’m an anesthesiologist and I am very familiar with paralytics. They are literally only given by people doing airway management (anesthesiologists, er physicians, icu teams). They say warning: paralyzing agent on the top that you need to puncture the needle through. There were 5-10 hard stops before she gave this drug. For a lay analogy, imagine being a waiter and someone orders a water but you prepare them a glass of chocolate milk by pouring milk into a glass, adding chocolate syrup, and stirring it. Now imagine that the chocolate milk actually paralyzes them makes it impossible for them to take a breath and they die unable to gasp for air or move. Also they don’t drink it but you prepare it and inject it into their veins then don’t monitor them and walk away.

[@flowersonwalls]

@@Tiger-cm2rp how terrifying . Thank you for the explanation people really don’t know the full details of the case

[@Sharon-sw7mr]

RaDonda seems to be living with herself just fine. I don't think you need to worry about RaDonda.

[@tmorales1054]

Being a nurse this was very hard to watch. When u have added responsibility and having to decide which task to do first can be very hard. And let’s not talk about busy days when there’s no time for breaks at all. I feel so terribly sad for both.

[@lillauren21]

You are the reason I treat every nurse and doctor with respect. I always say I’m not in a rush, especially when I had wrist surgery. Thank you for take care of us. I mean that sincerely.

[@Preservestlandry]

SHe wAS BuSy waaaah.

[@tmorales1054]

@@lillauren21 thank you that means a lot

[@1212CSmith]

Yuck, this lady sickens me! All these nurses cover up the sh1t they & other medical professionals do & when you are CAUGHT, now you complain? STbleepU!

[@iwant2haveu]

It’s systemic for sure. They don’t hire enough nurses and corners are cut all the time.

[@drew107-1]

This is obviously very tragic for Charleen and her family, as well as RaDonda. I can't imagine how you would feel after that. I don't understand what all of the protesting outside is for though. The sign "If you criminalize nurses, where will you go for healthcare?" (1:52) and the quote "Almost every nurse has had a medication failure of some sort. That could be any one of us." (1:54). These statements don't really have any substance in relation to what happened. Yeah, it was a mistake, but a catastrophic one, killing someone, and as far as it's shown, at full fault of RaDonda. As stated in many of these interviews, the vile has a large red "WARNING" label on the lid, and clearly states the drug's name. If you're about to *inject* someone intravenously with a medication, and don't check the name properly or heed to the warning label, the responsibility is absolute. And don't get me wrong, I can't imagine the stress of working insanely long and heavy hours like many nurses are burdened with daily in the ER, but when injecting people with substances, that responsibility still lies in you, and some of the signs just seem like such a copout. Another one of them saying, "nurses aren't criminals", as if unjust sentences are being thrown out left, right, and center. It was very graceful for the family to forgive her and for the jury to reduce her sentencing, and after 5 years, RaDonda deserves it, I hope my response doesn't seem as if I think otherwise. I am just puzzled by the actions of everyone outside, maybe the circumstances were different than what I am aware of.

[@jen30551]

Having spent the majority of my life in and out of hospitals since 1982 it is heartbreaking to see that not much has changed for nurses. They are on the front lines, neglecting their own basic needs everyday, often disrespected by patients or their families, disregarded by other medical professionals and doing all of the heavy lifting. When I was a child, I was subjected to nurses who were breaking down from all of this and became downright mean. I look back from an adults perspective and I can see how this could happen to someone who came into the field with all the right stuff and intentions. Shame on the entire system for allowing this to continue.

[@paxundpeace9970]

Negligence against youself is the downfall of an profession. Her action were like a driver changing lanes without looking and signaling and then riding of 3 red signals in a row and crashing into a pedestrian while typing on the smartphone and leaving the scene only to return after shopping has been done and going back and getting supprised why those other people are so upset. This is not a simple mistake the error was found by another person the nurse did not follow up on her patient after giving the drug she did not check in with colleagues. Maybe some other staff is at fault too but her actions had been deeply wrong. Until medical professionals understand this that they have that responsiblity and accountability those erros will occur. Wonder that she didn't got more, cloud easily be 10+ years.

[@erinle7711]

Exactly!

[@karenlewkowitz5858]

Working in health ‘care’ IS not like being in an abusive relationship - it IS an abusive relationship - said by hospital doctor to staff

[@Goatmama90]

P

[@eej1983able]

I'm so sorry for both sides. At least she was honest about her error. God bless all of our nurses 🙏

[@FlyAgaric525]

This nurse "accidentally" gave that fatal dose. She needs absolute murder charges. I do drugs and know way more about them than any doctor I have ever met, this shouldn't be an excuse for doctors or nurses. She needs life in prison.

[@unoimright5153]

Honest, it’s in their code of ethic ! How can you lie ... EACH VILE IS ACCOUNTED FOR ....one would be missing and the one she was supposed to use would still be in stock !! Hard to lie about that !! The autopsy ..( which has to be performed because she was just getting a sedative and cat scan, not deadly procedures) would of definitely shown the wrong drug in her system! At least she told the truth ... blah blah blah

[@amyconway9035]

Admitting error is the most important thing after it occurs. Although it couldn't have been helped in this case, many med errors are correctable if addressed right away. This conviction is going to make nurses less likely to report errors.

[@ytr3488]

@@amyconway9035 So next time you're in the hospital and there's an error rest assured it won't be reported...good luck

[@pumalogo204]

@@ytr3488 100% I never knew killing someone accidentally gets you 3 years of supervised probation.........so people next time you get into trouble in some way like vaught....just tell the judge you want the Vaught treatment lol

[@joyceedgington5298]

I experienced over a decade of medical neglect/abuse by doctors and nurses after my cancer surgery but this creates a bad precedent. Good, caring medical professionals make mistakes too. I’m so very sad for both sides here

[@dejuhvu1793]

Did you watch the trial?

[@martinshkreli3677]

it was criminally negligent she was warned by the system nearly ten times

[@joyceedgington5298]

@@dejuhvu1793 yes and the biggest problem I had was all the over riding.

[@sarairivera4006]

Nop first she did not supposed to used that machine without other nurse. That override is always used , also the hospital was the responsible the head nurse too. Not her the mistake was reported and she got hetlr licensed revoke. This enough.

[@teresamessenger5399]

That is terrible!! I am so sorry

[@sharron-6540]

She made a catastrophic mistake, but she did not do it on purpose, you can see that she is incredibly sorry and will have to live with the guilt of this for the rest of her life. It’s absolutely heartbreaking for all involved.

[@lizarreola4073]

More needs to be done to support nurses in the hospital! We’re overworked during 12 hours with staff shortages, old ass heck medical record systems, faulty medicine machines, educating students/preceptees while trying to take care of high acuity patients. My heart is with Radonda, I can’t imagine how she feels. 💗

[@spoons250]

She was texting her man and administered IV acid into someone's veins as a final (agonizing) death sentence. This was her 13th registered offence. She wasnt drafted into nursing, darling. Had this been a 7 year old she administered an agonizing final hour (full of acid veins) you would beg for her to get the death sentence. That woman she killed died screaming btw.

[@spoons250]

And again, so we are clear, NURSES ARE NOT DRAFTED INTO NURSING. smdhay.

[@Alda1821]

Let me tell you how it’s in Greece. 2 days of shift (48 hours) and leaving next day in the afternoon (56 hours in total). I’m a doctor.

[@stbam1965]

The last time and every time i was in the hospital , the nurses were all loud and laughing and talking loud in the halls waking me up. I couldn't wait to go home so i could sleep. It was sooo rude. I was in a lot of pain from surgery and every few minutes at night they woke me up talking loud joking laughing loud. I wasn't allowed to get up by myself to use bathroom. Every time i pushed the button to get help my nurse was snotty and mean. So i got up to use the bathroom by myself after waiting almost a hour for help. That nurse comes in my room yelling at me. It was the 3rd shift ones that treated me like dirt. The other shift was pleasant.

[@stbam1965]

Then dont work as a nurse then. Piss and moan about your job. Do something else then. No one is forcing you to stay. So stop whining about it.

[@paulafigueroa1573]

It is just amazing how the victim’s relative forgives her so graciously that even advocates for no prison time for Radonda’s mistake. How difficult to be able to forgive like that, and how difficult to live with the responsibility of one death on you. It is something so hard I believe nothing will make it go away ever.

[@bedtimestoriesforkids9755]

possibly because the victim was the mother in law of the lady who was forgiving her.

[@paulafigueroa1573]

@@bedtimestoriesforkids9755 hahaha 🤣 you’re mean.

[@Cjmorris1999]

Glad to see y’all support murderers .

[@barbaraminchew4677]

Family was paid a large amount of money.

[@paulafigueroa1573]

@Thou Swell Have you seen already the movie of the male nurse that killed many people in several hospitals? I think it’s “The good nurse”. So, Our thinking of having remorse for as long as we live, is not always going to be the case. I’m afraid that after that nurse became a serial killer, nurses in general are going to be punished much harder for fatal mistakes. It is a pity really, since nurses are the most dedicated professionals of all. Thanks for your comment.

[@chrissys5785]

After working in a nursing home I am surprised this doesn’t happen more often. The understaffing and the overworked nurses is heart breaking ! These nurses carry the world on their shoulders

[@epicstyle160]

It doesn't happen more often where you worked because you worked with responsible and qualified nurses! Be glad you didnt have her on your team.

[@uglyraff9313]

LMAO stfu. Most nurses are underworked, thats why you have so many focusing their time on tiktok and not their job.

[@Beau83820]

@@epicstyle160 medicine mistakes do happen more often than you think, it’s not about responsibility or qualifications. it’s about being exhausted mentally and physically where yo WILL make mistakes, no doubt.

[@joshg4953]

@@epicstyle160 People like you are the reason REAL criminals are freed from prison. This woman made a mistake, she shouldn't be charged

[@epicstyle160]

@@joshg4953 lol keep defending a murderer

[@red37i59]

RN here. For people who never work in the medical field defending this witch, this nurse should have been jailed. Most major hospitals wont allow you to override a narcotic medication from a medication dispensing system (omnicell/pyxis to name a few) without a supervisor or another nurse as a witness for this deadly reason. And what happened about scanning that patient ID bar code and scanning the medication prior to giving the medicine? That would have alerted her to med error right away since you have too bypass or once again over ride the system before giving the med. Not to mention that med bottle had a COLORED WARNING LABEL around its mouth prior to drawing the med with syringe. This witch bypassed multiple security system (overriding the dispenser, blindly ignoring COLORED LABEL on the bottle, not scanning patient, and not scanning the medicine) which led her to ultimately killing an innocent victim.

[@braddishv3146]

THANK you for this comment.

[@lizabethhaberer2677]

Drs perform wrong surgeries to the wrong patients that have consequences for life yet none of them were ever jailed this is totally horrible and as a nurse makes me want to rethink my profession. I work very part time now and as needed only because of this incident. my heart goes out to this beautiful lady who without a doubt has a very kind heart. God bless her and her family.

[@brittneyharvey2917]

People who aren’t nurses will never understand what we go through. From toxic work environments to being over worked with bare minimal benefits throughout it all. It’s truly unfair. And for something like this to have happened to her really scares us on the unit now. To think something like this could happen to any one of us truly makes you not want to BE a nurse. Doctors make mistakes all the time and are able to cover their own assess…but who covers nurses?

[@janetmeyer4540]

The nurse made a mistake and she has to live with this. But I feel the hospital is also to blame but the powers that be never went on trial. I believe this case should bring change so it doesn’t happen again not put nurses in jail.

[@zeewal515]

Agreed I work in an inpatient in it’s mandated for nurses to do 12 hr shifts if someone calls out they are mandated..very under staffed

[@waterdragon55]

I have been watching a youtuber who is a nurse and learnt what actually nurses I actually didn't know what they did before but wow for nurses to do tht much wow

[@andreaavictoria]

I'm sure your opinion would be different if that was your mother, or loved one. Yes it's easy to make mistakes, but hers took someones life away. That's terrible and inexcusable regardless of how tired she was, she still murdered someone point blank period.

[@brittneyharvey2917]

@@andreaavictoria I’m sure it would be. Doctors and police officers murder people everyday and get away with it. Point blank period.

[@pamnichols7877]

I stand with this nurse who has gone through the unimaginable. As a nurse for 39 years, most of my practice in the ED, ICU, and the OR, Supervisor positions, etc, my heart breaks for her and the family. Corporate America is causing a decline in appropriate healthcare due to cut backs, novice employees, increasing patient demands, and decreasing salaries. The amount of energy, physically and mentally to work as a nurse in an ICU environment, can’t be explained to those, including administrators, because they are not trained to be nurses. Online nursing programs are on the rise where clinical hours in a hospital environment were mandatory over 3 decades ago. I will always look at her as a nurse who has compassion and love in her heart, regardless of her license status. Shame on the TN Board of Nursing.

[@DojaIsGod]

@Silver The system is set up in a way to make many mistakes happen. Nurses are very understaffed and overworked and the stress is too much so an error is bound to happen no matter how careful you are. She definitely shouldn’t be criminally charged over this but the hospital should be instead for understaffing and putting the patients at risk. I think California is the only state that has laws that caps the number of patients that nurses have at once which make the probability of an error significantly less. Try woking 12 hour shifts constantly on your feet with no breaks and being understaffed af and see if you can survive/make no mistake.

[@thenightking7167]

@Silver, I completely concur. The supporters of this nurse are basically suggesting that mistakes that lead to grave outcomes, should not carry any form of consequence. We cannot simply excuse this type of fatal clinical negligence. We are suppose to be a society where bioethics is sacred. A patient died, needlessly. Ms. Radonda seems like a kind person, but kind people also commit all sorts of involuntary crimes. On a similar note: Air traffic controllers have one of the highest stressful occupations in the world. Coddling this nurse, who killed a person due to negligence, is akin to excusing an air control traffic officer, for a plane crash, that happened on his shift when he fell asleep due to extreme exhaustion.

[@Scar-jg4bn]

@Silver you've clearly never worked as a nurse when the entire hospitals technical system changes. Her hospital was transitioning to EPIC and when things don't scan or work properly you HAVE to override them. When my hospital changed to EPIC we had to click and override so many pop-ups on our phones (which we use to scan medications, scan patients, chart, contact providers, etc.) it was ridiculous. She came clean about what happened and the hospital had 2 neurologists sign off that the cause of death was natural and settled with the family. It was only when someone tattled to the offices of Medicare/Medicaid and the hospital would lose funding that they made RaDonda the sacrificial lamb to save themselves. Now most travel nurses will never go to Vanderbilt out of solidarity with RaDonda. Nurses should not be criminally charged for mistakes, malpractice insurance does not apply to criminal cases, only civil ones. Physicians make mistakes all the time, but they bring in money for the hospital so they're always protected.

[@Scar-jg4bn]

@Silver fixed the name spelling, but I still stand by what I said. Not only that, I think you fail to realize that this makes it so less healthcare workers will report mistakes or near misses caused or influenced by systemic problems, which will lead to more errors and a lack of necessary changes. You may not be a nurse, but read the first part of my post specifying that you have no knowledge of what it's like with 7 patients needing medications all throughout the shift with a new computer and scanning system that doesn't work and has to be overridden to do anything. Any job with that happening is frustrating, but having that in healthcare is a new level of ridiculous and it's not employees fault when their employer fails to have working software that's necessary to do their jobs. She made a mistake, hands down, but criminal charges set a dangerous precedent legally and nurses are scapegoated by administration when anything happens. Heard about the story where 5 correctional officers pinned an inmate down in his cell and made the nurse leave the room and the patient died from the officers restraining him on his stomach? Guess who got indicted? Not a single officer, the nurse was held responsible. More and more nurses are leaving for desk jobs because we see the writing on the wall and are held responsible for so many things and given little to no support by our employers and administration. Every nurse and physician has made a med error, the only difference is that now they're scared to report the errors for fear of criminal charges and not just losing their license, but going to prison.

[@vladtheinhaler8940]

@@Scar-jg4bn I fucking hate Epic.

[@braddishv3146]

While I don't agree with the criminal charges or conviction, this "story" glosses over the horror the accident caused this patient. Instead of reducing her anxiety for the scan, she laid there - paralyzed - as she slowly lost her ability to breathe. Fully conscious she couldn't move and basically suffocated to the point of severe brain damage. Let THAT sink in. Imagine being scared to swim, being told by someone "you will be fine", as they tied your hands behind your back, put a weight on your feet, and pushed you in a pool. ALL while you were wide-awake knowing, "I am going to drown". That was this poor woman's torturous, last agonizing few minutes. So, sorry - NOT SORRY - I don't have a warm, happy feeling about this woman finding peace on a farm somewhere.

[@joannbowden6220]

As a nurse (retired) let me give everyone a free piece of advice: NEVER, EVER LEAVE A LOVED ONE ALONE IN A HOSPITAL! Stay with them throughout their hospital stay. Find out what meds they're on & make a list! Whenever someone comes in to give meds find out what's being given BEFORE it's given whether it's by mouth, injection or IV! When they're taken out of the room, find out what dept they're going to & why & how long they're expected to be gone. If something happens that you don't agree with or don't like, tell them you want to speak to the hospital administrator. Start at the top so you don't have to repeat your story a million times! Be an advocate for ur loved one!

[@purplehyacinth5646]

Too bad Covid changed all the visitor rules. I am a nurse in a hospital and we don’t allow overnight visitors unless you are actively dying or giving birth. And if You don’t have any trust for the hard working staff taking care of them then don’t bring them to the hospital. 99% of us really do care and would never intentionally harm your loved ones.

[@sweettoothmarie7304]

Thanks for this advice!

[@ludy41]

U must have been a lazy nurse. So you want relatives to stay away from work to do your job. Bet you were not missed.

[@audreyt3251]

That’s a lot to ask of someone who’s not trained in medicine. People trust doctors and nurses to know what they’re doing

[@Pop_Culture_Pulpit]

I'm a nurse myself but made the mistake of trusting that my son was safe with a nurse who was sitting outside his PICU room and his dad in a chair beside him. I went to take a "nap" in a provided parent room but had just fallen asleep when I got the dreaded knock that my son had extubated himself. He had epiglottis so they were having difficulty re-inserting his tube. My husband had went to the vending machine off the unit and the nurse stepped away from her post and it only took that long for something to go really wrong. I have a healthy fully recovered little boy but needless to say I NEVER left his bed for rest of his hospital stay. The most important thing is to be an advocate for your loved one, never leave their bedside, and ask questions. The most important thing to know is what medications they are getting. I always love having involved family because having been a patient myself I know being hospitalized is lonely, isolating, on top of feeling your worst. I treat all of my patients the same whether there are family present or not but I find it is better when they are there.

[@sharonrush4344]

Throwing the nurse under the bus, scapegoating. Look at nurse patient ratio. Nurses are chronically short staffed. Also look at acuity level of patient to nurse ratio. The sicker the patient the more care they require the more nurses are needed at any given time. It can become overwhelmingly busy in an instant while working as a nurse. Mistakes happen all the time and yes they are covered up all the time.

[@tag7592]

Everyone needs to look at nurse and hospital administration. Where are they? Hiding? Yes! Bunch of bullies!

[@ScreamTatumRiley]

Well knowing that y become a nurse??

[@adonnaprice9676]

Always have two nurses on board for safety..

[@marybeth1644]

@Name44 Last Where did she say she was smarter than the doctor? She didn’t question his order. She thought she was giving the correct drug.

[@marybeth1644]

@Name44 Last You’re a troll with a 2 week old account. You said something harder to prove. You asked if she thought she was smarter and had a better treatment plan than the physician. How can you gauge someone’s thoughts?

[@bhumphries1360]

I worked for many, many years in long-term care. First starting years ago, right after high school graduation. I will never forget the time that a nurse accidentally gave the wrong patient a dose of insulin. I literally watched the color as it drained from her face. The nurse was crying, she was shaking, and she suddenly felt ill. The patient ended up being okay due to the fact that the nurse realized her mistake almost immediately. I've often wondered what could have been had she not noticed. I'm not sure what the protocol for reporting med errors was back in those days. But I could only imagine had she done that today that she would have been burnt to the stake by the system. This was a nurse that went above and beyond for all her patients. I can't tell you how much of her money that she spent out of pocket to buy them clothing, electric razors, snacks, to get their hair done, and so many other things. She truly loved each and every one of the patients that she cared for. Yes, she made, what could have been a grievous mistake. I know that nurse on a personal level, still to this day. She is one of the kindest human beings I've ever met. She made a mistake. Honestly I do not know too many nurses who haven't made some sort of mistake throughout their career. I do agree that bringing these type of charges sets a very serious precedent moving forward. How many nurses are going to choose to retire early? How many potential nurses are going to decide to pursue a different career? We have a healthcare system that is already short staffed and overwhelmed. Yet, not a single thing is being done to remedy this.

[@kittyb275]

Anyone that gets overwhelmed and kills patients because they cant focus should not be a nurse. That nurse you mentioned should have had her license revoked.

[@deborahpuckett8525]

Too many hours, understaffed, overworked nurses. Too many patients assigned to one nurse. Not safe. Hospital should be held accountable also. I'm an RN and it's scary as hell.

[@cdcd1607]

Been a nurse for 15 years- it's the cheap short hospital staffing and bad workflows that lead to these tragedies. How this became a criminal charge is DUMB! This was scape goating for management of hospitals. Every bedside nurse knows that.

[@theselittlepigsstayedhome]

Yup. Unfortunately us nurses take the blame and no one higher up is held accountable

[@gailwebb9619]

The nurse who administered the med is ultimately responsible for giving the wrong meds to a patient that caused her death.

[@HildaRealtor]

@@gailwebb9619 hospitals try to be cheap, not hire enough nurses. I have many nurse friends, they all are overworked, under stress etc. it’s the hospitals, the health care system’s problem.

[@gailwebb9619]

@@HildaRealtor I’m well aware of all this as I am a nurse. I’ve worked every area of the hospital, nursing homes, clinics, etc....including 12 hour shifts. This nurse over road the med delivery machine and then didn’t look at the vial to verify it was correct. That is not the facility’s fault. While I’m sure this particular hospital system has made major changes since this death occurred she is still responsible for her actions.

[@SpringTime2nd]

She was my sisters nurse. She was so sweet. Professional. I feel bad for everyone involved.

[@mizzysparrots4874]

People don’t realize how common this is, you just don’t hear about it because it usually doesn’t lead to death. But I’ve worked in medical agencies for a very long time and yes people make med mistakes constantly. This could have been me in this video, I once gave the wrong pills to the wrong person FORTUNATELY the person didn’t swallow them, they were in her mouth so I ordered her to spit it out and she did. I’m lucky every day that it didn’t go further than it did, it would have been an ER visit and possible health problems and/or death. It happens. We are human and we make mistakes. It’s not always so simple. It’s easy to sit here and say “well how could this even happen” but there’s like 100 situations I can think of right now that would make this happen, it just happens. Please be understanding and have empathy before freaking out “how can they do this!!”

[@dancingtoledo]

I remember working as a floor nurse being extremely stretched. Trying to get everything done within the time perimeters. The pressure was unbelievable. Furthermore, my patient assignments did not make sense. Having so many critically patients was dangerous. Times have changed, patients don’t come in for simple illnesses. A person must be very ill to be admitted. Yet, staffing has stayed the same. There is so much waste on over-paid administrative staff. The hospital could just hire more nursing staff. It seems as though hospitals are always looking at ways to squeeze the littler people. They look at how they can get more out of nurses for less pay. It does not surprise me that medication errors and physical accidents are made in hospitals and nursing homes. It does surprise me that hospitals still haven’t figured out that nurses are their most valuable employees.

[@Ladybird22373]

Exactly the the same in the UK!

[@tsteinyrn]

AMEN to that. I've been a nurse for over 20 yrs. Patients are sicker, more demanding and the nurse patient ratios are high. Hospitals hire people for oversite and ways to increase patient satisfaction surveys. All that leads to additional paperwork, additional computer charting, in-service on how to be nice (Huh?), it's not that we aren't nice, we just don't have the time to spend quality time w/ our patients. For the $ they hospitals pay those people to make "improvements", they could've hired at least 4 full-time staff nurses. But instead we continue to be short staffed, consistently reminded not to get into overtime, yet regularly asked to pick up shifts. Recently, I was able to talk my daughter out of becoming a nurse, which saddened me to my core, but in today's healthcare industry us nurses feel the only ones who have our backs are each other.

[@michellemorris8066]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👈🏾👈🏾👈🏾

[@sunshinesunshine8375]

Hospitals know. They do not care. Hospitals are a multi billion dollar business at the end of the day. Patients and staff don't come first. The money is what drives their operations. They will overwork nurses until there's nothing left in them and purposely understaff if it will save them money. It's sad but that's the consequences of living in a capitalist society. Nurses deserve much appreciation.

[@snoozyq9576]

Yes. I don't know what they expect will happen. This is exactly what happens.

[@josephkozak4212]

The thing that is so mind boggling is that you actually have to reconstitute Vecuronium from a powder to liquid. I feel bad for her--but honestly--that's kinda scary that an ICU nurse would do that. I'm not trying to be judgmental--but that is so far beyond the pale. From a 17 yr PICU nurse.

[@mn8249]

I worked in the ICU before. While the work was greatly rewarding, the stress was immense. Not only the work but the pressure from colleagues was huge. Bullying was common. Perfection was required. And we did 12-hour shifts, sometimes without a proper break. I once had a patient who had a heart rate of 150+ with an arrhythmia. While my colleagues were trying to help me, I saw a nurse who was about to inject Potassium chloride into my patient's CVL. I stopped him. The tube that contained KCL was made by the manufacturer that also provided NaCl in a tube that looked exactly the same. The description was written on only one side of the square shape tube. I do not doubt that the nurse intended to help my patient. He was trying to see if the CVL was patent. We nurses look after each other. But when everyone's busy, it is hard.

[@angelsworld1559]

A nurse at the hospital my grandma passed away at they gave her the wrong drugs that she was allergic too and yes she lost her life. The drugs made her in a very bad state she was screaming and yelling for help it was a nightmare. No one lost their job and no one got in trouble. It was absolutely a nightmare though to continue to hear those noises in my head when that memory crosses my head. Sad.

[@journeywithrosie]

This is why I could never be a nurse. Not for fear of jail time, but I can't imagine the nurses' guilt over this. I couldn't live with that. Also, the constant fear of making a mistake and accidentally harming someone. That is terrifying.

[@debbiejones6265]

One thing we as nurses need to remember, we are just a body/number to that hospital. If push comes to shove, they will blame the nurse and hold them liable even when there are issues with their system. I've seen it time and time again. No one is perfect, and nurses strive to be as close to perfect as possible as their actions have consequences. It's a tragic loss for Ms Murphy. And it's a tragic loss for RaDonda. Considering how nurses are treated by patients, by family, kicked at, hit, sit at, cussed out, why would anyone want to go into nursing anymore. Why? Because when we go into nursing, it's a calling, you want to take of people and help them get better. This is a very sad case. And very unfair as that hospital used her as a scape goat instead of owning up to their poor decisions and policies.