Abelina Sabrina and Botched Advocacy (Gus Johnson Pregnancy)

[@bekaz13]

I know this is an old vid, but I want to thank you for making it. Despite having seen all of Duncan and Nick's videos on the subject, I was STILL under the impression that the Pokemon incident was during her ectopic pregnancy recovery. I didn't even know she'd had a rhinoplasty! So thanks for clearing that up, as well as everything else. This situation was so much more complicated than either of them made it out to be.

[@mirandamoon7847]

I really like the care you take in researching, being unbiased, and not trying to ruin any reputations, just presenting facts

[@jerryrose9472]

My take on all of this is Gus deserves to lose his relationship for his behavior. And that's it. He doesn't deserve the public lynching that he's recieved. I don't agree with his behavior at all, but the degree in which total strangers are getting involved in their personal business is so wildly inappropriate.

[@ueltrades9479]

Couldn't have said it better myself. I love how everyone decided to jump on the "I hate gus johnson now" train without even hearing what he has to say.

[@TheFinalFarewell]

I think the reason everyone immediately bailed on Gus is his content has always been wholesome and uplifting and about supporting people around you. So when people saw that this mentality didn't carry into his life off camera nearly as much as people assumed, it really shattered the illusion. And beyond that, people close to both of them, even good friends of Gus have shut him out which in similar cases usually suggests that people who know more than what's bouncing around online couldn't condone the actions they know of. I'm not saying Sabrina was perfect in her handling of this, but I don't think it's any surprise that fans are unsubscribing if Gus' behavior was so bad that actual friends of his can't stand to be around him now

[@ueltrades9479]

@@TheFinalFarewell or maybe, just maybe, his "friends" abandoned him because of backlash 🤷‍♂️

[@TheFinalFarewell]

@@ueltrades9479 So it's easier to believe a big group of people are shitty people and bailed on their friend than to believe that ONE person who has since admitted that he did really shitty stuff was a shitty person and is facing the consequences of that within his circle? I'm sorry, I'm sure this technically COULD be true, but it seems rather naive to assume this is a whole conspiracy of his best friends shunning him as opposed to the far easier to explain and more likely option that his friends found out he's not the guy he pretended to be around them

[@ueltrades9479]

@@TheFinalFarewell What friends are you talking about? Edie? Cause as far as I know Edie is the only one of Gus's friends who publicly said that he didn't want to be associated with Gus anymore. I don't know what "big group of people" you're talking about.

[@jflyiii1682]

OMG- THANK YOU- this whole situation drove me nuts, not because I dislike or like either Gus or Sabrina, but because this was the craziest example I’ve ever seen of zombie mob mentality. First of all I believe Sabrina and I cannot imagine the pain she has been through. However- no part of this story was surprising to me at all. ANYONE in their early twenties facing their (possibly) first pregnancy scare is going to act unpredictably - not just unpredictable to their partner but even to themselves- what I’m saying is, do I think Gus was some kind of evil genius that just didn’t give a shit about her pain and suffering? No, I think he was a young idiotic man dealing with a situation he couldn’t even wrap his head around. Does that excuse his mistreatment of Sabrina? No, but it does make me stop and think back to the relationships I had at that age and try to put myself and the guy that I was dating at that time in this situation and I just want to say that I personally don’t feel right judging either Gus or Sabrina. Dealing with major health issues is f-ing scary; add in that the pregnancy was unplanned and then that it might actually take Sabrina’s LIFE, on top of that…all any of us should be doing is hoping that if we were ever in that situation that we would be a better partner (regardless of gender). I’m not willing to just believe that Gus is some irredeemable monster, just like I would never “just” accept that Sabrina shared her story for clout. People make mistakes and do shitty things- that’s life.

[@Kriplingpowr]

You can kinda judge her actions after the matter tho cuz she’s trying to paint him as the bad guy and she’s innocent and she really does look like she’s trying to do this all for clout and everyone trying to give her attention and poor me and trying to ruin his life. Cuz all this crap started 3 years after it happened and she’s just being so shitty now. I agree with everything else you said tho

[@JimmyDThing]

I'm glad someone is finally providing a nuanced take on this massive issue.

[@hauntedsunsets]

Hearing the details surrounding how Sabrina's been acting since this video definitely gives more context as to how much is going on in this whole situation. As someone who used to be a Gus Johnson fan, and decided to stop engaging with his content when this all first happened - it's honestly just because of what I associate him with now. I watched Sabrina's video and heard her describe actions that remind me too much of past abusive partners. I later saw Gus' apology, and felt that it both seemed dismissive of his own actions and was suspicious that he only addressed this on Twitter, where he has a significantly smaller fanbase. Finally I saw that Eddy Burback had decided to distance himself from Gus, citing that he'd lost trust he previously had in Gus. I'm not gonna sit here and say that I know what truly happened, nor will I make any greater judgement of Gus. All I have is what's shared online and what I can take from it. Your video has very well encompassed the parts of this situation that muddy the water, make it difficult to figure out what's going on, and all over confuse the situation. All I know is that I'm uncomfortable consuming Gus Johnson's content, and haven't supported him since I came to that conclusion. As for your question about how it could've taken her three years to leave Gus or talk about this: I genuinely can't emphasize enough how much power an abusive partner can have on you. Even upon breaking up with partners, I've spent years working to let myself believe that they hurt me. I have failed to leave a partner because they roped me back into it. I have justified so much even if a partner had done something I'd specifically identified as abusive in a past relationship. If Gus was abusive to Sabrina - something we don't know for sure and can't confirm - then I could absolutely believe her staying with him for multiple years after this. I could even believe her hesitating with trying to expose him - doing so indirectly and trying not to outright say what he did or didn't do - either due to difficulty in quantifying how it might have been abusive, or even based on her own difficulty trying to accept it as abusive. Three years isn't that long when you consider abuse. She might have not even truly understood that what Gus did during her pregnancy was wrong until they broke up and she could freshly examine it. Resentment doesn't hold up against someone who's manipulative and abusive. I'll reiterate we don't know if this was an abusive relationship - but it's entirely believable that it could've been.

[@tarasabell]

Exactly how I feel too! It's hard to hear people dismiss the experiences of women who have come from unideal circumstances, the cycle of abuse is real and once you're in that situation, it's nearly impossible to get out, the fact she was only with him for 3 years, assuming it was abusive, is truly amazing, she's so lucky she got out of a situation like that!

[@ludvig3242]

This all assumes that Gus was abusive.

[@hauntedsunsets]

@@ludvig3242 yeah that's on purpose, the entire point of my comment was that it's believable that he could have been abusive. not actually assuming that he is or trying to prove it, but providing explanation as to why certain factors (like Sabrina continuing to date him after this all took place) don't actually discount the possibility that he was abusive. more than anything it was to offer some insight to how abusive relationships tend to work - it's very rare that someone "does something abusive" one time out of nowhere, it's much more complicated than that and notably makes it more difficult to leave someone even after they've done something terrible

[@KATinBLACK]

That is totally relatable to any entertainer’s allegations. Even if they’re not true, it’s the association that makes it hard to watch em or enjoy their work, even worse if it turns out to be true. It’s like the R Kelly or Amber Heard stuff (not saying what they did is similar, just examples): some people can separate creation and creator, but for some people you can’t look at their stuff without being reminded of what they did/were accused of. I don’t blame people who don’t wanna watch a KZbinr after allegations, but I don’t recommend hate watching or spreading misinformation, especially when they’re still just allegations and we weren’t there to know the facts. It’s better for the mental health to just stop watching them. I wasn’t a huge fan of Gus but I also stopped watching after that just so I don’t have to remember what Sabrina said, true or not.

[@AJFilms14]

Here’s the thing, even if the topic steered away from advocacy that’s not really on Sabrina. Sometimes the internet is the last refuge to be heard in and that’s why I see no moral wrong in her pretty much exposing this man. I mean what is Gus entitled to a KZbin platform? No, he can do other stuff to support himself. If an audience sees a new, clearly well hidden, side of someone it’s their decision whether they want to continue watching them and at that point it’s his own actions ruining his career.

[@AJFilms14]

@bo rick it wasn’t like a critique of the video lol

[@AJFilms14]

bo rick this was MY point, bo, lol.

[@cameronhirtle7316]

Just like Gus is entitled the right to make content and move on, while keeping the subs and followers he already has that do not buy what she is selling them. Goes both ways. Good, you have the right to unsub and leave. Now those people need to leave Gus alone and move on. Period.

[@love2612]

i see what u mean but u know she never said she was a professional advocate of this cause. she wanted to tell her story, that doesnt take away her right to tell other ”stories” from her life and relationshios

[@harris2898]

Just a regular advocate, not a proffessional.

[@Wotasheeep]

I'm almost a year too late on this issue, but oooooohboy I seriously checked the like button only to see that I've liked it. I've done it several times during this video. Your writing is so well done.

[@harrypottereyeball1448]

As a *professional women* i actually think is video was very well done and i agree woth most of the points he said. My one qualm with the video is when he mentioned the possibility of sabrina resenting Gus for 3 years yet still being in a relationship with gus. You framed it has fairly unbelievable (from my interpretation) and i dont agree with that stance. Even assuming it is less likely, i have seen plenty of relationships where that is the case and especially considering they where in the public eye, i honestly wouldnt be So surprised. I dont think that undermines the rest of your vibeo or anything, that is especially why i wanted to add that. Otherwise tho i really liked the video and i think, considering this is such a delicate topic, you did a fairly good job (also i found you recently and im glad i did! Just wanted to add that lol)

[@escandersanchez65]

What in the hell is a professional women? Becaue if you get paid to be a women that's called an escort

[@harrypottereyeball1448]

@@escandersanchez65 lmaooo, nah i was just kidding

[@whatischampion]

@@escandersanchez65 Nice comment dude, really added a ton to the discussion.

[@landonlee691]

@@whatischampion so did yours bro

[@Re-Todd_Howard]

Professional woman, I get it! I read your comment before I watched the video and was confused.

[@haydenwilson4848]

I clicked on this video because I only found out about this whole situation today and I was expecting a really shitty drama youtuber to just speculate for 40 min amd not actually have anything impotant to say. But i was very pleasantly surprised, good sir. Thanks for making a good video that's not just to get views, I will be checking out more of stuff after, keep it up!

[@JimmyRobins]

Thank you, that really means a lot.

[@badascan8910]

Just saw his second video. Instant sub. I love people who look at things logically and not try to tear people down.

[@romancandleofthewild]

Overall, I appreciate your video and the fact that you introduced a unique and important perspective. Though I will say that I think that there is a difference between sharing a story to bring awareness to an issue and actively being an advocate. Sabrina never really claimed to be an advocate, but did want to raise awareness about ectopic pregnancies. I don't think she's made the best choices, but I think it might be a little unfair to treat her like she's a studied activist when it seems like she was trying to share her story. If we're gonna give Gus the benefit of the doubt by saying that he was pushed into a difficult situation and reacted badly, I think we should give the same grace to Sabrina now that she hasn't been acting as the best advocate ESCPECIALLY when she never explicitly stated (to my knowledge) that she wanted to be an advocate or activist for reproductive rights. Just food for thought.

[@dijonjohn1011]

This is mostly about Sabrina being manipulative and entitled. It is not about her being a advocate really.

[@romancandleofthewild]

@@dijonjohn1011 But he framed the video as look into Sabrina’s so-called “botched advocacy” not as a look into how manipulative she is.

[@dijonjohn1011]

@@romancandleofthewild Yeah he did frame it pretty strangely... I think he is smart enough to know that if he came right out with calling Sabrina manipulative/entitled, people would immediately dismiss everything he has to say... No matter how good of a job he does supporting his allegations/observations.

[@romancandleofthewild]

@@dijonjohn1011 Yeah, but it seems kind of dishonest to do that. Don’t use a false premise to start your video if that’s not what it’s actually about. Also it’s weird that he immediately jumped to Sabrina manipulative but gives Gus the benefit of the doubt about how he treated her. Idk I just felt like it a lot of the nuance that he presented was offset by the weird dichotomy he set up.

[@dijonjohn1011]

@@romancandleofthewild Seeing has how everyone was siding with Sabrina immediately and no one is giving Gus the benefit of the doubt, I can understand him trying to make those arguments... But it is also totally understandable why that might make you feel a bit weird.

[@_synthicyde]

My guy, you are brave for making these critiques. I've been thinking a lot of these things but have refused to say them out loud. I respect taking a swing at this.

[@JimmyRobins]

Thanks, I definitely went back and forth for weeks about it.

[@manchurianfool7968]

you handled this subject with the nuance it required, and you gave as much context as was needed. You gave us straight facts, mad respect. Women need better advocacy for their struggles than something so tangled into a rough situation, which started with good messages and good intentions but will likely not be remembered for that. It's a shame. Anyway, thanks for doing your due diligence, good video

[@treasureberry7154]

Jimmy, I have thought a lot about making video essays, and starting a KZbin channel, and I have to say, this video is such an inspiration. Your commitment is fantastic, and it really shows through in the quality. Please never stop making content.

[@JimmyRobins]

This comment really means a lot to me, thank you.

[@PaulRusty10]

This situation is complex and messy, but I appreciate you contributing to the discourse in a productive way, even if I disagree with some of what you said, at least you had an honest, empathetic, and nuanced take about it, which is about all we can ask for. Solid video bruvvy 👍

[@aazhie]

I've had major plastic surgery. I'm a transman and I had top surgery and laparoscopic procedure as well. I stayed with my parents, was on Vicodin for the first few days. I was perfectly mobile after about three days. I showered alone, and thankfully didn't require a whole lot of help. Overall, my mom went to work as normal and my dad was in the house, but often in other rooms and I was left alone in my room overnight and maybe checked in on for breakfast and dinner. I made myself lunch after the fourth day and was perfectly capable of caring for myself. I was ALSO hit by a car as a pedestrian. My friend and later my parents took care of me for about a week or two. I was dizzy to the point of being nauseated by sitting up or lying down. I had a concussion and I blacked out almost two, three full days. I'm also a Psychology major grad. I just don't really get how not being constantly around for a Rhinoplasty recovery is negligent.

[@Maria_745]

I agree that I think she lost focus on the video's purpose but I would argue the fans had something to do with it. When the video initially made it's way to the subreddit almost *everyone* there said there was no way he could do such a thing, boys support boys, etc. (to that point I also don't agree he was universally shunned by his fans, many are staunchly pro-gus) I could see her initially liking the tweets out of frustration thinking a few people might see them but of course they circled back to the fans. I do think Gus' apology was generic and disappointing (especially now considering he returned sooner than expected with a sketch) but he also didn't owe it to the fans. I would rather get a statement from him after privately making amends and proving that he worked on himself (charity stream, pro-healthcare video, statement on healthy relationships, etc). But in my opinion the criticism on this situation is far too granular when the subtext is a troubled relationship. An emergency medical event can be extremely traumatizing but because of the sudden nature of it, you may not accurately process it as trauma or even remember details until later in life. It seems apparent from her vlog that the rhinoplasty triggered this trauma and her time spent recovering allowed her to reflect on her relationship. Considering she worked for Gus and they later lived together, if he was at all emotionally abusive, she would be pressured to stay with him and with added anxiety may not have the courage to leave. Overall I don't consider her calculated or drama baiting, I think it's just a really difficult and complex situation to talk about as a public figure and unfortunately it's easier for fans to take sides than look at the situation as a complicated matter that unfortunately hurt everyone involved.

[@jamesbackwardz]

The purpose of her video was to share her experience but also get vengeance for something that happened 3 years ago. She accomplished both.

[@Dunz0Washington]

She saw how much attention she was getting and she knew exactly what she was doing and how many would see. Did you watch this video? You're doing exactly what she wanted when she has been purposely vague to her advantage.

[@msunje9862]

@@jamesbackwardz how is that getting vengeance? That video doesn’t do harm to him, his fans support him even if he commits s/a

[@msunje9862]

@@Dunz0Washington why would she not know what she is doing ? She is the person doing it. I don’t get your point. The video wasn’t for attention, it was for the fans that kept coming after her

[@fluentsloffy9420]

This is an incredibly well spoken and thought out video. I really appreciate this level quality and the insight you provided here

[@sjwhite7138]

This is a great video, really well made. As someone who watched Gus Johnson and this unfold, I felt something was off about the way it was handled but could not put my finger on it. The pokemon card post was what made me initially question motives especially as this unfolded while Gus was on tour.

[@dschamp5]

I think I needed this video. I couldn't stop looking up this drama on youtube. Your analysis I think is complete enough for me to be satisfied.

[@smilesfordays]

If you feel like that (as I do) then share it with people who are still only half educated. That’s the right thing I’ll be doing. Edit: feel free to not, I still liked your post, but it helps educate people even if you’re not doing it for Gus. This is a great example of reigning in cancel culture and it’s worth sharing.

[@LilPW]

@@smilesfordays I am sharing the shit out of this.

[@salzk8276]

VERY well done video. It's certainly a sketchy topic to cover. You addressed it with knowledge and extremely important points. Kudos, my man.

[@BabySharque]

Thank you for putting in the mental legwork on this issue. I was a long-time Gus watcher and seeing Sabrina's video was surprising and difficult to deal with. I am fortunate not to be active on Twitter, so I kept hearing about the Twitter fallout secondhand. As a childfree and pro-choice person, I understand both Gus and Sabrina's perspectives in that moment: both wanting to explore the option of keeping the baby, and the visceral panic Gus probably felt at suddenly staring down the barrel of a baby gun. I can understand his actions, especially in light of his free admission that he is avoidant in times of stress. That being said, his behavior Sabrina described in the original video which he has not tried at all to refute was pretty horrible and selfish, and I can also fully understand why Sabrina would never be able to trust him again. I was in an emotionally abusive relationship that lasted for a year before I was able to break up with the abuser and go no-contact. This person suffered from severe mental illness, and that fact affected my ability to accept that our relationship was actively toxic and regressing because I understood that they weren't equipped with healthy communication/coping strategies...and neither was I. Six months later, they sent me a well-spoken letter apologizing for their behavior in the relationship, and I eventually accepted that the apology was genuine but that I could still never interact with them again for my own health. I am not certain whether or not I will continue to watch Gus videos in the future, but I don't see an evil abusive monster in the apologies he has offered thus far. He never once contradicted her pain or her description of his actions at that time, and did not offer any excuses for his behavior. I think he is a young man who panicked in a stressful situation and behaved horribly, causing serious harm to someone who counted on his love and support which has resulted in permanent trauma. I can sympathize with people who can't get behind him anymore as a result. I can also sympathize with Sabrina's desire to let her trauma be known, as expressing trauma can be profoundly healing and empowering. But I don't really like the idea of turning an important PSA about medical self-advocacy into a headhunt for a guy who did a shitty thing 3 years ago, even if that shitty thing has deeply traumatized her. Revenge won't heal anyone's wounds.

[@unsnappednapkin7681]

I’m glad you realize that there’s 2 sides and that we don’t really know these people

[@brandynicholson1499]

Great video. You showed a level of critical thinking that is far to uncommon on social media.

[@floof_hair3857]

If this is the quality of content you output, you deserve more views.

[@CB-dj1uz]

Good video for sure. Three years in an abusive or toxic relationship isn’t surprising at all. Her manipulating the situation also not surprising. She clearly hasn’t finished healing from her traumatic experience. That isn’t a good frame of mind to make a shocking internet video that you monetize. So of course the aftermath is going to be bad.

[@addieholder5082]

i heavily disagree with this video, probably because i have experienced similar medical dismissal and denial to sabrina. i just, any story is a positive one for young women to hear. i would have really appreciated a story like sabrinas when i was going through my own medical trauma, and it would have made me feel less alone. and pain is relative. just because one person can fully take care of themselves after facial surgery does not mean that sabrina could. she wasn’t asking for go to take a few weeks off, she was asking for support over the first few days. everyone handles recovery differently, and i know my body takes a loooong time to recuperate before i can be truly independent. idk, just some of my thoughts. you’re not silencing women, but a few of your criticisms are a bit disheartening to hear as a survivor of medical trauma.

[@aaryabatchu1831]

Although I agree with your criticism of the video, especially Jim’s dismissal of Sabrina’s rhinoplasty recovery by calling it “just a nose job” and by using anecdotal evidence (which he mentioned numerous times in older videos was “crap”), I’d argue the main point of the commentary was to explain how Sabrina started to become petty and less of simply an advocate for medical trauma awareness. He makes multiple attempts to reinforce this idea throughout the video, stating how he fully supports her initial video and that his only reason for making the video is to call attention to Sabrina’s pettiness. He explains a clear narrative, starting from Sabrina being mistreated during a traumatic time, gaining the courage to talk about the event, yet proceeding to make posts and claims on social media that specifically called out her ex-boyfriend. Anyway, this was my understanding and interpretation. If you believed that other parts were more important to the overall message, I’m all for it. I’d just encourage you to look at the video as a criticism of how Sabrina botched her advocacy by turning it into seemingly petty revenge, rather than a criticism of that advocacy.

[@kaitlyngriggs2361]

Similar to your point, I wanted to mention that Gus said that he would drop everything to go be with her during that day of her recovery. I see that not as her being demanding but reacting to him failing to meet an expectation that he set for himself. I don't know where he got the evidence that she wanted him to take "weeks off of work".

[@bokavordur]

I 100% agree with you. This video definitely seems to unintentionally have a bias against women's experiences. Not toxic, but he gives the benefit of the doubt to others instead of Sabrina. He does deep dives into intentions and claims, rather than listening to what she said.

[@softwaifu]

Agreed, 100%. People who have experienced trauma can be acting in advocacy and not be "an advocate" more than they are a human being who has suffered. This video has the tone of "she's not being a perfect advocate" rather than "she is telling a personal story for the purposes of advocacy" and, if we understood advocacy and trauma-informed care as much as we pretend we do, we would know those are very different things.

[@romancandleofthewild]

@@softwaifu Exactly right. I’m confused about where Sabrina made the claim that she wanted to be an advocate for reproductive rights. It’s weird to make the video about that without proof that she was actually trying to become an advocate or activist. You can share a story to bring awareness to something and also make the decision to not dedicate your entire life to that cause.

[@goopytoobers9397]

I’m glad you wrote out what you wanna say, bc it really matters in a complicated situation such as this

[@pennifold]

Thank you for the reality check. It’s far too easy to snap categorize people into ‘the good or the bad pile’ when you see vague posts online. I don’t post online myself anymore, so maybe my judgement doesn’t affect anyone. But, it affects me to become too lazy in my impressions of people. Nuance is a practice, I think!

[@jimmiehenson]

Very happy to have found your channel. Keep it up man

[@CERTAIND00M]

Thank you for being the hero we need right now. I was going freakin' crazy because I thought I was the only one seeing all of this. Liked, favorited, subscribed, AND I clicked your little bell too. Thank you for having the intellectual honesty and the balls to put this out.

[@isidoooora]

great video! found my new fav commentary channel. it's binge time!

[@jamesgatz5301]

Most people judging Gus on this don’t realize how taxing a plethora of medical issues effects a couple. To expect someone to be 100% perfect the whole time is unrealistic. There will be arguments, there will be days when a person will be busy during a doctor visit, there will be yelling, there will be tears. That said, Sabrina’s intention was to exploit a medical issue to make a hit piece on Gus because of a breakup.

[@tylerjackson7781]

I wasn't super with you at first, but honestly yeah you make a good point. The one thing I will say when it came to the her calling her family part and lying idk if I blame her there was a lot going on. Which is fair

[@Dantheman-nf9xk]

Sure, but you got to give the same grace to gus, how much things was he having to deal with while trying to control this?

[@dee.doubleyou]

this video was… incredible? like, super nuanced, knowledgeable, balanced, and peppered with genuinely funny jokes. thank you for this, subbed 😚

[@MrDarkknight914]

You should do a pantene commercial with youtubers crying in the background as their tears invigorate, rejuvenate, and moisturize your hair follicles while wind runs through your flowing mane. Perfect skit to announce your arrival to dethrone current bias and or non factual dramatubers.

[@mynameisjonas1997]

"if you're not educated and practicing in the field of psychology, stop acting like you're an expert." This goes to so many people I know.

[@MrProofMan]

100 percent the correct take. I hope everyone watches this.

[@Erinski]

I assumed when she said she hid what was happening as an ovarian cyst from her mother and sister, I'd just assumed she hid it because she thought Gus would be upset if more people knew. Also, yeah, she liked tweets calling out Gus. She's obviously very hurt and traumatized and angry with him, and it's all coming out with her talking about it. She's human. I don't feel it takes away from her advocacy. If it were me, I'd be happy people were seeing this person for who they are too.

[@WaddupItsYaBoi]

She wasn’t liking tweets that called him out, she was liking tweets that gave twisted and outright false versions of her experience. They represented Gus as doing things that Sabrina never said he did, accused him of, or confirmed. I’m not trying to suggest you should switch your stance, just offering that specific correction here. It wasn’t just liking the support she was receiving, it was liking outright lies.

[@Erinski]

@@WaddupItsYaBoi Well, not having seen any of the liked tweets, it's still impossible for anyone but Sabrina or Gus to determine what an "outright lie" is, regarding the situation. When it comes to us, it's her word vs. his. What I do know, as they both confirmed, she had a pregnancy, that became ectopic, and he was very selfish and unsupportive throughout the whole thing. Thus, my stance remains that he was a shitty partner, and she has every right and reason to resent him for it. Whether she intended for people to do some detective work and figure out it was Gus to get back at him, I can't say for sure. There would be some toxicity there on her part, if that's what she set out to do, but again, we as outsiders can't determine if there was an ulterior motive of revenge in her talking about her experience publicly.

[@angeleyes4720]

it’s crazy how people need women to be perfect victims in order for them to be believed :/

[@TheFinalFarewell]

My only question is did she ever outright claim that she was advocating for anything in the initial video or since then (I don't mean that sarcastically or rhetorically, I'm genuinely unsure, we all miss information now and then)? Because if she did, then these things certainly should be considered. Throwing a spotlight onto your personal life for the sake of advocacy also means you need to be aware of the scrutiny you'll face and how you need to compose yourself as an advocate. But on the other hand, if she was simply sharing her story for the sake of getting trauma off her chest then this is entirely irrelevant and her responses to comments are just her responding to support and not part of some larger advocacy movement. I think in this situation the context is everything, because unless she explicitly stated she's pushing for changes through her story, then she should not be viewed as an advocate but rather a person sharing her past hardship.

[@Lena-xy8id]

Yeah I've never been under the impression she was trying to be an advocate

[@geikzen]

I appreciate your commentary on the situation. Just found out about the whole Gus thing today, and the other videos I watched were definitely one sided with the Gus hate. Always good to get another perspective. 👍🏻 also, great video. I’m excited to see what you do next.

[@Willetta27]

Uh... Two things can be true at once? She can, in fact, be advocating for reproductive healthcare *and* have a desire for her abuser to be outed. You're criticizing a victim of abuse for handling the outing of said abuser... What? Too meekly? Beyond the clear interpersonal power dynamics between these two people being out of balance as Gus abused her and had a profound psychological effect on her, she was probably very aware of the fact that outing him directly would ultimately lead to people attacking her, a much smaller creator and woman on the internet, in his defense and possibly even lead to legal repercussions which would be a long drawn out stressful process involving this person she clearly wants to cut ties from. It's interesting that you can understand that perspective for yourself, stating your fear of lawsuits in substantiating any claims at the beginning of this video, and yet you can't understand it for this person who is also clearly still recovering from this abuse. Sabrina has a right to be angry and accept support of people who offer it. And I think it stands to reason that the outpouring of support when it comes to Gus's abuse is what has (rightfully) emboldened her to come forward when at the time of making this video she was too afraid to even say his name. And even now, she's still not boldly coming forward about it but taking baby steps as she's probably still terrified of what happens if he retaliates. We don't need to be criticizing victims of abuse for telling their *whole* story rather than splitting it into separate traumas when in fact it is all one massive traumatic even perpetuated by two offenders: Gus Johnson and the American healthcare system. Speaking as a now former long term Gus Johnson fan. Edit:typo

[@ev6100]

YES thank you

[@apinchofdisappointment]

!!

[@aidansenn9668]

The thing is though, you don't know what happened. As jimmy said towards to start, he wasn't there, and neither were you. I'm not saying that Sabrina is lying about Gus, and it was awful what happened to her with the healthcare system, but before everybody turns on someone, can we just wait until we have more context or evidence? Again, not saying she is lying, but I think before everyone gets a justice boner we shouldn't jump to destroy someone's life if some items turn to be false. If Gus Johnson really did abuse Sabrina, then yeah. Lets give him hell. But if he didn't, I probably feel worse for him than anyone. And when you talk about the fact she wants to cut ties with Gus, why does she like the twitter threads that talk about him? I do think its brave of her to come out and talk about the healthcare system and her traumatic experience. That takes courage. But all I ask is you don't instantly come to a verdict that could damage more people than necessary.

[@therealharshlycritical]

Who hurt you😭

[@esaelisa423]

@@aidansenn9668 In his "apology", Gus literally admits to what she said in her video. What other evidence do you need if the person themselves says "Yeah I was a shit boyfriend & did those things"? It's easy to say there's no evidence if you never bother looking for it, even when it's presented to you.

[@MrMcKonz]

I appreciate the level-headedness of this analysis. I think irresponsibly managed activism has the potential to be incredibly damaging for the cause. I hope for the sake of her cause, that Sabrina see's this video and reassesses the way she's going about this, and it goes without saying that I hope both Gus and Sabrina can grow from this.

[@JimmyRobins]

Thank you, I appreciate hearing your thoughts on the matter.

[@OnlySourSauce]

Really well done. You really did a great job with the research and recording and editing. You deserve so many more subs abd hope your content continues to grow and your channel succeeds more and more with every video. Happy to be a new sub here.

[@JimmyRobins]

Thank you, I appreciate it!

[@llkt0]

22:20 Did not expect it, but loved it. You're really funny dude and I hope your channel gets more recognition

[@JimmyRobins]

Thank you!

[@Dantheman-nf9xk]

More people need to see this

[@_synthicyde]

I liked this video when I first saw it and it's remaining maybe the only video I like discussing this topic. As time goes on, the disinformation around this situation keeps getting worse. Every tweet or KZbin video I see about this mixes up the timeline. I've seen people claim Gus opened Pokemon cards instead of going to hospital when she was dying. Hell, I just saw a video where someone outright said Gus's actions are what almost killed her. I don't know why but people publically supporting Sabrina cannot get basic facts right. I appreciate this video more and more because it somehow manages to be the only video getting the facts accurate to what Sabrina said.

[@Dantheman-nf9xk]

I've seen this a lot too, people being like "gus just left her to die" like what,don't you remember it was the doctors not letting her in? What, you expect gus to be a doctor and save her?

[@kalebnunya9860]

you saw that terrible inabber video too huh. dont forget the part about him saying gus blackmailed sabrina to have an abortion.

[@ntashatheomnipresent4969]

Great video, you really dissected everything. What do you think about the last video the Gus posted? People commented that the removal of dislikes, the content of the video, and the timing itself was crass.

[@foxfroth2179]

I accidentally fell into this rabbit hole today and Mr. Robins, ty for ending it. Good job. In return I will leave two additional thoughts of mine. Sabrinas video is a paid promotion and monetised with plenty of ad breaks, that makes it not less true or important, but definitely not altruistic. Do I care that she made money on it as soon as it was posted, no, I am just saying that capitalising on it takes away from the whole "selfless act" situation is all. It also makes the whole pokemon situation a little more problematic tbh.

[@oddjam]

Well articulated and fair analysis.

[@Stormin_Norman_1066]

I love that the only negative comments here are made in very poor faith or are just outright misdirection. Good job, Jimmy!

[@LiLAlbiHD]

Love this style of reporting.

[@JimmyRobins]

Thanks!

[@matt20792]

This needs more views

[@hmssirius9343]

Your video is mostly well balanced, except for this statement which seems like you're trying to cover your ass with an unreasonable statement: 31:42 "I firmly believe Sabrina, I believe every word she shared, and I am grateful she shared her experiences." First of all. This is a two way street. If Gus came out and shared his experience, and his experience was that Sabrina was largely lying, then you'd be obligated to take up the same position. Only arbitrary factors can induce you to appreciate one experience - which you cannot verify one way or the other - more than another. You have amply demonstrated that Sabrina is, most likely, not telling the truth in many instances; which blatantly contradicts your conclusive statement saying you believe her. You cannot hold these two contradictory views at the same time. You have made the point before that because being there and involved makes it impossible with any great degree of certainty to verify events, and context, that taking a side is irresponsible. You simply cannot take anyone's side as definitively true, which is what you do by saying you "believe every word she shared". This isn't irresponsible.

[@steelemoto4190]

No. No. NO. JUST NO. She has every right to be pissed tf off, and call him out on his sh*t in the same video. The video is a story, an advocacy, and a recollection of what has changed her and why (and who!). It's very clear what happened to her ACTUALLY happened. She had no support system either! She had no confidence to tell people about what transpired, so she's had no closure and then had to keep it a secret for years. That kind of thing really f*cks a person up. This video, every detail, was a catharsis. She may never be able to have children ever again and she WILL have problems for the rest of her life. I don't care if he loses followers or his career, what he did was unacceptable, what the doctors did was unacceptable. This woman deserved better from Gus, her family, and all the hospitals. Her own family wouldn't even listen and the ONE person who should have kept pushing doctors for answers instead questioned her sanity. My boyfriend and I have pushed and pushed for each other until we got answers for our own health problems. When you have an issue, you get to the bottom of it and don't let anyone tell you IT'S JUST THIS. My boyfriend has carried me into the hospital when I could no longer move and I was throwing up for 24 hours. He would never have abandoned me or not believed me. This poor woman finally had the courage to call out to her audience to 1) raise awareness of the glaring medical malpractice and support for women's health and 2) talk about how isolated and broken she has been for years. No wonder she has PTSD, and will probably have more anxiety reading awful comments or being criticized for telling her story. Intent? You really care about her INTENT?! It doesn't matter! She almost died. She was in immense pain. If you have never been knocking on deaths door you don't get to talk.

[@addieholder5082]

thank you. thank you. she has every right to share her story, and it’s frustrating that some people think she’s just doing this for attention. when you are ignored by the medical field to the point of nearly dying, you would probably want to be heard by someone, anyone!

[@Dantheman-nf9xk]

Ummm, didn't he say he was in a car crash? I would definitely say he was knocking on deaths door.

[@Dantheman-nf9xk]

@@addieholder5082 yeah but nobody is pointing out that it's the doctors and such who denied her, everyone just says that it's gus's fault, like what is gus supposed to be a doctor and save her??? 🤣🤣

[@steelemoto4190]

@@Dantheman-nf9xk Tf are you talking about. He was fully healthy enough at the time to take her to the doctor every time she needed to go and not question it abusively to her. His behavior was textbook narcissistic, he cared more about going out with his friends than making sure his own girlfriend of many years (THAT HE IMPREGENATED) was alright!

[@Dantheman-nf9xk]

@@steelemoto4190 bro he went with her 12 times. And, I'd argue he wasn't. Looking at gus's videos from that time, its easy to see that he was dealing with a lot of stuff at the time. College, some hardship (watch Mitchell Robbins is done) and now he had to deal with that. Sure he might have been physically healthy, but put anyone in that scenario, I am sure they will not handle it in the most level headed way. And don't try to say you would, because judging by your reply, you most definitely wouldn't. And how is that narcissistic? You're just mad at the facts. But stay mad man, I don't care. You're a textbook idiot. Your acceptance of it doesn't change the reality 🤷‍♂️ aint no point in arguing with you, have a good day. Ohhhh, no not gus was in a car crash. You seemed to be calling out the faults of the guy making the video. Who was in a car crash. So he was knocking on deaths door and has every right to state that. But now I know you probably watched the first 3 minutes of the video and don't really care to Learn all the facts because you're scared of being wrong. Just accept it 🤷‍♂️. As I said hitherto, have a good day

[@bribribribribribribribribri]

God I appreciate this so much dude. It's like you read a bunch of my thoughts on this as a badly written draft and professionally proofread them.

[@JimmyRobins]

Haha, thank you, glad to hear it!

[@katherineb9262]

Excellent take. I appreciate you sharing this and your conclusion is really spot on.

[@asadavis9532]

In all seriousness this was a very nuanced take and I'm very impressed that such a young man is so bright. Love to see a young king rise up

[@JimmyRobins]

Thank you!

[@hmssirius9343]

10:45 to 12:07 Sabrina liking the tweet putting the blame squarely on Gus "keeping her away from her family" is unambiguously a contradiction in her story in which she initially made it quite clear how she took the initiative to keep her family out of the picture. She could well have said in her video that Gus played a role, since she was using the cover of the anonymous boyfriend anyway, and moreover, didn't try to hide who it was this "boyfriend" was (which I frankly don't believe she sincerely intended to do, she must've known people would easily put the pieces together). But you said that you're not even trying to say what she said isn't true, even though it cannot be 100% proven or disproven, considering the contradiction it's much more likely she's lying (by liking that tweet) than telling the truth, and you have been given ample room, because of her actions, to make this statement within the limits of reason, just short of anything definitive.

[@Captainfrenzyfries]

Really good work!

[@TrickyNano]

I loved most of this video. But I have to say, as a women and a caregiver to my father with Alzheimer’s, the suggestion that having to take care of someone for a couple months would lead to selfish and degrading words is stupid. My dad can’t be alone for more than a second. Taking care of him is exhausting! But I have never went up to him and said “y’know if I wasn’t in the picture no one else would put up with you” And Sabrina only needed care from Gus for a couple months? I’ve been doing this for a year and a half non stop and still would never say the things Gus said. I do however agree with the notion that people can change and grow. He could be forgiven maybe after some years of change, but it takes a really fucked up person to degrade someone helpless.

[@mysterm1833]

I liked most of your comment. I appreciate Jimmy's analysis because he's one of the few people out here at least attempting to point out the nuances of an otherwise toxic relationship and extremely stressful crisis the couple went through in what was a pretty new relationship over five years ago. However, Jimmy doesn't know all of the details. Gus messed up. He said insensitive things during her mental health breakdown after he was fully present and supportive for her physical healing. He was ignorant, selfish, overwhelmed, scared, frustrated, exhausted, and financially strapped. He didn't understand ptsd and he was regularly talking her off the ledge, being awakened in the middle of the night, subsidizing her life, and taking her to the er only to be sent away with yet another panic attack. I'm not sure if you're a parent, but we parents have occasionally grown frustrated during moments of extreme stress and exhaustion and have said the wrong thing that we deeply regret. It doesn't make us "f'd up." It makes us human. She was never helpless, but she was going through mental anguish that he didn't understand. I know he has done a lot of soul searching and grown from this ordeal. Whatever the case, I hope everyone involved can move on and have a good life. And you have my deepest admiration for being a caregiver to your dear father. Not that it matters coming from a stranger.

[@NotEliteGamer]

This is an amazing video. You seem like a solid writer.

[@chlorinelori1064]

You know what is sad? I will tell you. The sad part of everything is that a woman can’t tell her story about how she had a medical emergency where her partner wasn’t supportive enough and we take it for what it is . That doesn’t mean you have to hate someone who entertains you because he acted badly towards someone in their private life. He didn’t do anything illegal and she stayed with him after the incident, so I guess she was ok with his behavior. You also shouldn’t discredit her emotions and experience because she almost died and that is very serious and hard to deal with. It’s their private thing that shouldn’t have been public in the end of the day but she has right to talk about her own experiences if she wants to. I think we all humans are the same and we are all selfish in the end of the day this is not something any of them should be scrutinized for, it’s just something that happened and we should learn on their mistakes not hate on them or inspect the motives. People do bad things all the time, sometimes even not realizing they are doing something bad,nobody is perfect. It’s wrong of everyone to choose a side here because they are nobody to you and you don’t know them.

[@bbtdgfan890]

She wasn't okay with his behavior. It takes an average of seven attempts for an abuse victim to escape an abusive partner. That's why she eventually did break up with him.

[@Dantheman-nf9xk]

That's a fair viewpoint chlorine Lori, well said

[@chlorinelori1064]

@@bbtdgfan890 well that’s a warning for his future partner then not for you. I personally don’t think it was abuse, if it was abuse he wouldn’t let her go and beg her to come back so he could abuse her more. This seems like a she loved him more than he loved her situation and he stayed with her because of the guilt he felt after the hospital incident. He is not ready to settle down and she is,so they went their own way and I wish them both luck. Especially Sabrina she deserves someone who will put her first as she seems like a very loving and dedicated woman.

[@chaossmith3864]

@@chlorinelori1064 I grew up abused and it will absolutely mess up your mental space. I've begged someone to take me back who literally punched me in the face. On more than one occasion. Told me to go ahead and kill myself. Broke parts of where we were living in a rage. Among other mental and emotional manipulation. Are you going to tell me all of that wasn't abuse?

[@marw9541]

Looking at the views on his content and seeing how she partially began him living off 20% of the income he was originally getting is an evil that legitimately the courts should get involved in

[@Mr.CreamCheese69]

Idk man trauma does things to people. What if she just doesn't quite know what to do with this yet or how

[@softwaifu]

Yeah, people who have experienced trauma are not obligated to be perfect advocates. This whole video is tone deaf.

[@Mr.CreamCheese69]

@@softwaifu exactly. I can kinda get what's happening here as well where she may one moment want to spite him, one moment miss him somehow, other moments want to advocate. The effects of trauma are rough and it's never a clear path

[@Dantheman-nf9xk]

@@softwaifu what do you mean tone deaf?

[@landonlee691]

@@softwaifu he’s not saying that dolt he calling her a hypocrite

[@ninuvids]

Not commenting on the content of the video but… if you got a teleprompter set up it would solve the reading off the monitor look you mentioned and make your presentation look awesome You’ve probably thought about that already but just in case

[@jayperz]

i have to say man, really good job with this one! i feel like this is the first video on this topic that has actually provided me with information and a reasonable argument instead of pure opinion. as a gus fan, this whole situation was a big disappointment to me but i also had a feeling that it was most likely being made a lot more simple than it actually was. none of the accusations "shattered" me because i dont really hold public figures as role models or idols because they are complex people capable of very good and very terrible things, just like you and me. i just really appreciate the time put into articulating and clarifying all of your points on the topic when everywhere ive looked for information has been a toxic dumpster fire of taking sides hurling insults. this is the kind of commentary we need more of. Got yourself a new subscriber!

[@normalguy1729]

Personally, I think I won't support Gus until further notice. However, that doesn't mean I hate him. As a person who believes in the fairness of justice I absolutely HATE deciding on who's right or wrong when the full story isn't released. And I don't expect them to release the full story, but at least some conclusion. To say that Gus did something that wasn't confirmed is wrong, because it wasn't confirmed. If what Sabrina said is true (specifically said, not alluded to) then yeah, Gus messed up. But to go out of your way to make conclusions based off of vague statements is wrong. Especially conclusions that were never confirmed because the statements were so vague. In short, until further notice, I don't think Gus was abusive for three whole years after the incident. I think he messed up during the incident, yeah, but after that, there's not much said. I get that abuse leads to trauma, but I just don't see why she would start at arguably the most traumatic point (her pregnancy), before delving into the actual three years of abuse that would thoroughly clear up the story unless it was for chronology's sake. And in the case that it was for chronology's sake, it's best to get the videos out so that people will stop jumping to the conclusions she claims to hate so much. I failed to do an "in short".

[@AxisMacintosh]

I remember last week watching a video of someone calling out Gus for his actions and Sabrina commented on the video thanking the creator for the support. I remember thinking it was kinda odd considering Sabrina activity avoided saying Gus’s name in the video. Anyways great video. Different perspective. I like that. Earned yourself a new subscriber.

[@JimmyRobins]

Appreciate the feedback, thanks!

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

Nuance is taboo

[@ashketchum4953]

Thank you so much. I've been trying to say this but I couldn't have said it better.

[@ueltrades9479]

I've had so many people accuse me of being an awful person for still support Gus Johnson, and I haven't really been able to properly explain why I do. Your video has not only helped me be able to clearly explain to peeps why I still support him, but it's also helped shed a new light on this whole situation, and changed some wrong opinions I had on Sabrina.You've earned a sub my friend. What a very well thought out and clear video!

[@Dantheman-nf9xk]

Yeah people get so mad at others for still supporting gus johnson it's confusing lol

[@yournotdownfoo7572]

@@Dantheman-nf9xk stop riding gus johnsons meat

[@plumbsmuggler2792]

Idk why you're channel doesn't blow up more. You always have solid takes that are well articulated. Hoping more people get to see your content man.

[@JimmyRobins]

Thank you, I really appreciate it

[@hannahpauley5244]

I love both Gus and Sabrina it’s very upsetting I don’t really know how to feel about the situation but I do appreciate hearing a take on this I mostly agree with thank you

[@Daemoarak]

Finally! An emotionally intelligent person amongst this mess.

[@connorskeen1380]

I wonder how Sven is going to deal with this situation.

[@JamesEatWorld7758]

I am sure Sven knows more than we do about this situation and is just fine, he’s still putting out great content

[@drewsept3431]

Glad you look at this with non biased opinion.

[@brandycrosby6008]

Awesome analysis of the situation. I’m glad someone else did the digging because I probably never would have. It’s terrible she had to experience that and it’s a shame the way it all played out online. I hope they both become better people because of this.

[@faithdarling6036]

I feel like it’s good to see both sides here. Like yes Gus sounds like at points he was being an emotionally abusive and manipulative jerk, BUT she should have been clear on social media about what actually happened if she was going to share it at all. Because now I feel like Gus is being accused of way worse stuff. Also the fact that this happened three years ago? I’ve never heard that very important detail. Anyways, I think this is a good video that isn’t necessarily pandering to either side, I didn’t realize all the social media stuff she did afterwards that sort of blurred her original claims. Good video, definitely deserves more views 👍.

[@Dantheman-nf9xk]

"Also the fact that this happened 3 years ago? I've never heard that very important detail" EXACTLY, lol, that's what I have been saying

[@codyanes808]

Great video man...This video was shared on the Gus Johnson reddit page. And as one can imagine, people have lots of opinions on it to say the least lol.

[@vallennes]

Im glad for this video. I was feeling very alone in feeling like this situation requires a lot of nuance and a lot of patience for both sides of this story. Neither are a 100% victim and neither are a 100% abusive piece of shit. What she went through sucks and yeah, its shitty she wasn't supported as much as she felt she needed. But what he did was not abusive. He was putting himself first. Shitty? Sure. Selfish? Yes. Abusive? No. You're allowed to be selfish. You're allowed to not put someone else first. That doesn't make you awful, it makes you a human. Should we try to be better? Yes. Is it always possible? No.

[@RedGirl006]

The only voice of reason so far

[@smugmode]

Sorry you had to lose so much sleep for this. I appreciated your breakdown

[@evenoddridge4829]

Very Very insightful I hope to see this channel grow

[@cosmicjesus2218]

Really good take on this here. While this situation has changed my opinion of Gus, I don't think Sabrina is at all innocent in the vague posting and shade in the aftermath.

[@JimmyRobins]

Perfectly said. There’s issues with behaviors on both sides of the aisle, and it’s wrong to act like that’s not the case just because it involves sensitive matters.

[@darthgrouch4610]

I have a problem when people use trauma and vague accusations to hurt someone and for me it's clear its what she has done.

[@smilesfordays]

I don’t support abusive actions (been through a long situation dealing with my own experiences that has forced me to grow as a person, and realize what parts of it I was not acting in a way conducive to change) so your video is so important to me. She also kind of irked me for a long time. On the other hand, part of gus’ characters are an underlying ass hole. He was more up front if you know how to read his comedy, but long before her medical emergency, her actions and attitude in some video seemed forced and deceptive. I really appreciate you looking at all sides because I’m not over exaggerating when I say every video I’ve seen about the subject has been either defensive from the parties involved or an essay to piggyback on the drama. You got a sub. Thanks for some really superior reporting.

[@plumbsmuggler2792]

Jimmy the sleuth. Love the alternate perspective, good work man

[@JimmyRobins]

Thank you!

[@makingmediocremachines2133]

Very entertaining! Keep it up

[@Kakopyge]

Hey man. Really great job. Love the video and the time and effort you put into it. Keep it, thanks for having the balls to say these things and thanks for saying them so well.

[@Tubeytime]

26:23 you seem to be oblivious to how capable you are and underestimate how emotionally dependent some people can be. At the risk of sounding misogynistic, women often need emotional support for many things men take for granted. Obviously everyone is different but if you've been paying attention during your life, this shouldn't surprise you.

[@Dantheman-nf9xk]

I mean his was for actual health while if I remember correctly Sabrina's was purely cosmetic soooooo...

[@gskate117]

Plus he was a big help for medical bills im sure. Imagine trying to figure out how to pay it off.

[@Dantheman-nf9xk]

@@gskate117 I'm pretty sure gus had to help out a lot. I don't think Sabrina would go into that expecting to pay by herself when she only has like 190k subscribers to gus's like 3.44 mil subscribers (then). Stuff like that is expensive

[@landonlee691]

and? Bills need to be payed and jobs need to be worked. Willingly getting a nose job while at the same time doing a q and a isn’t deserved of your partner not working

[@stormanimations5422]

bruh she did a q&a the same day gtfo

[@pfifltrigg]

This is an excellent video. It makes things a lot clearer to me. The only thing I would disagree with is your claim that she wanted him to take weeks off of work, and that others would not expect the same of their spouses. I don't think she was asking him to take off work totally, but to take breaks from streaming to help her out. Streamers do take break so it's not too abnormal. Also, unlike the jobs you listed, people who work from home often do, and are expected to, assist with things around the house on their down time. If I was sick and my spouse was working from home I'd absolutely be asking him to help me. I know you don't say she's wrong to break up with him over the nose job thing, but I can totally see her perspective. Even if she felt she had totally forgiven him for his behavior years ago, I can see how this situation would remind her of that in a really negative way, and may convince her that he hasn't changed at all, despite the therapy and years of time in between. As a woman I could see myself jumping to the same conclusion. And I honestly think he could have taken breaks here and there to help her, especially as his fans were invested in her and their relationship. Women get pretty emotional, and don't see things as straightforward and analytically as men do sometimes. So while you are saying that logically the nose job recovery is nowhere as serious as the surgery years ago, from her point of view I think all she saw is that Gus was prioritizing his job over her again, just like he did those years ago, and thinking "he hasn't changed at all" and breaking up. But you're right that this doesn't necessarily mean Gus hasn't changed at all - however, if he was more sensitive to his girlfriend and her trauma he would have been all over helping her to prove that he wasn't going to put his job ahead of her again, or minimize her pain again. And he failed in this (he probably, like you, thought this surgery isn't such a big deal, but to her it meant a lot that he wasn't there for her regardless). Like you said I don't think she initially made the video to be vindictive or spiteful, but I'm sure she has been feeling angry reflecting back on that time, and the temptation to be spiteful is strong and I think she caved to it. I also think you made a great point that an internet hive mind can convince someone they're being abused, even if what they're experiencing doesn't actually rise to the level of abuse, and I'll bet Sabrina got caught up in all of the support and Gus bashing that she's convinced herself he was and is an abusive asshole. I do think the vague posting about the relationship and then claiming she only wants to talk about advocacy is disingenuous. I think she hadn't thought through all of this enough before posting the video, and she let the internet carry her away. Either way, vague accusations that she doesn't clarify are not in good taste - keep it private or not, but don't feed the speculation only to leave more answers. It actually serves to make Gus look worse because she is not clear what accusations she is making. I just wanted to point out that with the type of job Gus had, he could have easily taken breaks to help her out, and it was a mistake for him not to, because it did repeat in some way his dismissive behavior of the past and show her that she was not his top priority.

[@LilPW]

Why is it his job to do all of that? That is ridiculously outweighing the responsibility in that relationship to one side and again like the dude in the video said what was he supposed to do just sit there with her and pat her on the back all day and say "there there" grow up. He even said he had the same injury and went through the same thing but worse and with less support did you forget that part? Men do not owe you so much and sooner than later here you people are gonna start finding that out.

[@knitpick661]

I really appreciate your reasonable and nuanced take on this. Glad you made the video. Now you can relax and get some sleep haha

[@JimmyRobins]

I just woke up, so mission (4:30pm in my time zone) so mission successful?

[@TechSaintHD]

I'm in shock at the fact that this video doesn't have more views

[@JimmyRobins]

Funny enough, this is actually performing really well for me for only being up a day. Thank you!

[@TechSaintHD]

@@JimmyRobins not a problem you've definitely changed my view on this situation

[@Dantheman-nf9xk]

Good. I really enjoyed ithe, it wasn't typical gus bad Sabrina good. It actually brought up really good points. Liked and subscribed

[@TJDJ-2003]

Massively underrated Great vid

[@gid30n]

"Sabrina confirmed it was gus in the comments of her video" Bullshit dude, she said "Thankyou for your support" which she replied to many youtube and twitter comments. She wasn't confirming anything. You're reaching dude and it shows.

[@Dantheman-nf9xk]

So many Sabrina stans are reaching for anything to make gus seem like a bad person 🤷‍♂️

[@GreeeenT]

I had the exact same thought as your girlfriend!! To me it was very clear. Finally someone has a decent take on this issue. I’m so tired of everyone riding the wave of repeating the same criticism. Do any of them have any original thoughts ever? Anyways, very well made video 👍🏽

[@speakingintothevoid8319]

The random ringing in the video was very distracting but thank you for the great video!

[@mrt7036]

You have a good head on your shoulders. You are going far in this field.