Ableton Move LIVE Beat Making and questions 🤔

[@tMena45888]

I love how honest you are when you say you don't know how to use something it's comforting to know that your not just using youtube edits to look like you know everything. 👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@coachangeln]

Never get tired of your content. Got my Move on Thursday. I am loving it!

[@andypark9233]

Hi Ricky - on the selecting effects thing...the back button on the left moves you up a menu but the undo button on the right takes you back to the previous effect (and has multiple undos).

[@ijazzmunki]

Love this Ricky - big respect - all those of you who are on the fence about this - if you have a smart phone you basically have most of this functionality + sounds, ability to sample etc in Ableton NOTE - and it's free - I've been diving into that now the new Drum Sampler has been released with 12.1 it's ALL in Note - don't sleep on that app - it's great... I've already been making jams and importing into Live via Cloud and they sound great - and you can sample sound from video - just like on Koala Sampler - and again it works great - with some manual chopping! Lastly, I think as Ricky says, this is just V1 of the MOVE OS - there will be a lot of updates....

[@0x2049]

Ableton is taking notes. You are the one on KZbin who pushes the hardware to its limits just three days after its release. They should see this video and start working on the first update. 🤞 Let’s hope they don’t take as long as Native Instruments did to release a Maschine update! 😅

[@blamemonkey2]

Only just discovered you through interest in the Move, love your method in exploring and just trying shit out, you have an uncanny ability to explain what you are doing even when you’re not sure what your doing. Will be back and if Ableton ain’t giving you free stuff they need to get that sorted as it’s now at the top of my purchase list

[@bennydesign]

I cant understand the hate. Its a super fun little groovebox. Its no digitakt, but way better than a P-6 and brings a smile to my face everytime I use it. And most of the complaints can be solved by firmware updates. Even the 4 Track „limit“

[@groovindj]

Link is great, if your other kit has it too. With Link, no one device is in charge. Everything has permission to change tempo etc.

[@TimeScribe]

There’s no master. Any device can control tempo. Link is better than midi sync.

[@acidskool303]

there is an envelope mode to switch gate/trigger i believe (2nd bank of parameters for encoders) also Ableton Link > midi clock sync ;)

[@Blogspierre]

Press shift when editing samples, and to the right of the “hold” knob is a “length” knob. THAT is your end point. Not hold. Because hold is time dependent , but length is not. So if you use hold to truncate a sample, you’ll hear past it, if you play @ a higher pitch (16 pitch).

[@relative_vie]

BRO BIG UPS!!!

[@lofifren]

Great content - My Move is in the mail - I can't wait to join in on the fun

[@PatternMusic]

I think you can revert back to the default effects for an instrument preset by using Undo. Back just takes you up to the top of the preset without undoing.

[@Funkotronimus]

I’m liking mine so far!

[@dzerobeatz]

Ricky have you gotten any USB bus powered hum direct from your Mac (no hub)?

[@billpayer3745]

OK, after almost a week of resisting temptation, I caved. I bought an Ableton Move this afternoon. Normally with all my gear, I wait for a few OS updates etc, but the pull of being fully into the Ableton ecosystem, I decided to just go for it. I recently bought a 2nd iPad air and I bought Note last week, so the idea of the seamless workflow is everything I've ever dreamed of. Let's hope that it turns out that way.

[@aloharay]

thanks for your vids. I finally got a drumkit made on live to export into Move successfully. A number of steps to get it set up, but it works. Will try Wave or Drift preset next.

[@raysubject]

You mentioned it just briefly (or i missed it) so i want to ask - in drum rack module, you can set all evelopes, filter and even FX individual per PAD ? If this is the case, this is actually pretty powerful device, considering you can play chromatically per pad, it then technically means you have 64 tracks available :)

[@thedrumbroker]

Thanks for the review!

[@enchantederic3792]

I love the chords you are finding ,,, had to sub. Play on Ric!

[@EdoardoMarcora]

Can you send MIDI clock and note out on the USB C amd receive MIDI in from a keyboard connected to the USB A?

[@nodz007]

there is a high frequency pitch whine when you are speaking

[@donboyfisher]

Yup, agreed , really quite noticeable

[@samprock]

Yummy! It records from you starting recording and marks sample start. While you can change it. Versus start recording after sound hits threshold. That always beat me. What is if sound you trying to record has a slow attack, you would never be able to record properly with auto-start. Smart Abe! Good discovery Ricky! 🎉

[@curtisthacreator2231]

It’s a great device for mobile especially when paired with an iPad…

[@samprock]

⁠@@curtisthacreator2231Can’t wait for mine to arrive! Hope in can connect directly to my iPad Pro 12.9 though it has Lightning not USB C, same as iPhone 14.

[@curtisthacreator2231]

@@samprock it can transfer audio thru usb not sure if it will work as an audio interface though. I use the TX6 by teenage engineering for that

[@samprock]

@@curtisthacreator2231 You are right, it would not do usb audio from iPhone to Move, so still need Bluetooth phone buds with latency, which sucks. But my iPad still has dedicated phone 3.5, so I might me able to make a simple system. Can be a good controller to Korg Gadget which I’m big fan of, do you?

[@MoistBananaFantasmagoria]

Possibly control a synth patch in garage band and resample?

[@cold_fashioned]

Haha, the weird movements at the end. Classic. You should dust off the old intro once in a while. I had forgotten about that!

[@PanopticMotion]

I wonder how it would work with the Torso sampler.

[@sciamanmusic]

Hey Ricky. Thanks for this video. I’ve been enjoying my move, and the fact it causes you to think more about the melody, progression etc, and not sound design is priceless. Regarding studio integration with link …. Try LINKing it with a phone or device that has Link to midi app on it, then with a simple midi interface, or possibly even just the usb cable you can send clock to your DT etc. link is dope by the way, rock solid. No device is the master, all just works within a network of synced devices, you just join the party at the beginning of the next bar after you press play

[@spooky_zoo]

Hey Ricky, at 12:41 you would use the dial to lower to 1 bar looping.

[@spooky_zoo]

also, at around 37:00 you can use UNDO button so that your delay effect is reloaded back to what it was, not Saturator

[@johnjulius2043]

You can also double-tap a step key in Loop Select mode to select a single bar, same as on Push. I think I used Push 1 for 5 years before I realized this was an option...

[@pkskyutube]

Can you use the demo sets in Move in Ableton Live? I was thinking Ableton Cloud might enable this.

[@tMena45888]

seems pretty awesome man I'm definitely picking one up I love the push 3 but man that shit is heavy

[@UnrealOcean]

@ableton should build out the sampler mode on the MOVE to include warping and chopping. also they should incorporate chords functions and creative arpeggiation like the novation MK4 does

[@morganpage]

They really need to allow Move to receive MIDI clock and let you run 4 MIDI tracks!

[@Madmohawkfilms]

Hi Rickey, Did I hear you correctly in one of your Videos that Drift Synth has Max Polyphony of 4 Notes and Wavetable is Max Polyphony of 8 Notes? Thank you. Can’t seem to find anything about that in the manual.

[@maxmatteo2436]

just great content, thanks man

[@ameet2000]

thx for the insights, think it may have to replace my mc-101 as well. does all that and plug and play into Ableton is what i wanted. peace.

[@GirlfightClub]

I think Ricky saying “it’s interesting” is a dog whistle for “that also blows”

[@seanp2k617]

@12:13 I ran into this almost immediately because I kept messing up the starts of recordings 😅 I’d mess up on the 1 of bar 1 and have to totally re-record it or try to fix it with step edit which was tedious to get the human feel I was enjoying. You can nudge notes and nudge multiple at once but it’s tedious and you can’t move more notes than are in the bar. Hopefully something they can patch.

[@fridmanator]

41:28 undo bro, you did it a second ago. I think it’s just too new to think of all the options. 😅

[@paulred158]

Whatever piece of gear I see you use the constant theme. is that you have an fantastic ear for groove and an innate vibe and energy, I believe you could make something sound good using an empty trash can a hubcap and a couple of spoons. I have no interest in buying the Move but watch because I always learn something listening to you work your way around gear.

[@9NZ4]

A super useful stream. I’m changing my mind on Move. I’m selling my 404mk2 and getting this

[@HilkanaCastro]

can you get the sound just with ubs c?? I'm tryin gto make the most compact live looping set up with loopu pro on my ipad .... it would be great to reduce cables and just use this instead of audio interface plug my guitar in (even if with audio jack ) and drum sequenser instead of tr6s.

[@HilkanaCastro]

whats your opinion @Ricky on this ableton move for live performances?

[@nekrodamusas]

DOUBLE CLICK THE CORRESPONDING BAR BUTTON TO LOOP JUST THE ONE BAR

[@ChrisS73]

Hopefully in future updates they make it compatible with USB hubs

[@JakeSweeper]

They're not right now? Pity. That would've solved quite a bit.

[@Etali-the-Great]

Can you use a usb hub and have Move send its clock to multiple devices?

[@Playground-Graffiti]

Just wondering if you can run 4 sample tracks

[@gin-sonic]

Really good stuff!! Thanks! I received my Move yesterday but did not have much time yet to play with it... I want to hook it up to my Hydrasynth and sample some sounds and chords. :) Are you announcing live streams somewhere?

[@TRaddcliff]

agree with Lexter FX preset: what if you scroll to the bottom, is there a NONE option?

[@alter808]

12:43 To set a 1-bar loop, double-tap the Step button.

[@OmuNikoro]

5:55 usb hub?

[@jeejeeBlaps]

Ok I'm flying to LA to help you solve this high pitched noise issue... It's killing me trying to watch your videos lately 😂

[@illGatesMusic]

Re: pattern mutes Try writing mutes in as automation on a per-pattern basis. I don’t have a Move but I bet it will work.

[@shakinthetrees]

Did u try a usb hub to get midi in and out?

[@Adjustmentxdisorder]

Can you chain drum patterns? I make grime/drill beats at 140bpm. In one pattern i place a snare on the 9th step. And on another pattern i place a snare on the 13th step and chain them together so the secend pattern plays after the first. I currently use a teenage engineering po-33. Create multiple variations of drum patterns and chain them together. Is this possible on the move?

[@briannhinton]

They did say that they will update the midi to support more.

[@videosarchive8058]

You homie! Dope video, thanks for the inspiration. What cable are using? Hosa YMP-137 Stereo Breakout Cable - 3.5mm TRS Male to Left and Right 1/4 inch TS Female ?

[@bogey4741]

I’m not familiar with ableton hardware. Do they give it good support and lots of updates? Can we expect continual new features like new global effects and such to be added to this during its lifetime or is it just what it is at birth?

[@RobotSnake]

Yep. They still support Push 1 and updated the Push 2 not long ago. Push 2 was supported for over a decade and 3 gets regular updates. I think the move is safe.

[@owizlo]

why cant you turn on the drum sampler and run a mic and sing into a slot you get 16 bars. seems like it would fine. make each slot a different 16 bars and set them off one at time and you got vocals.

[@tarekith]

A lot of these things that are annoying you are instantly fixed when you use the Undo button. :)

[@dontcallmejon]

I'm really liking the Move so far, feels great, high quality product and great controller for Live too and dropping in sessions to the DAW is seamless.

[@DJCJ999]

… I also have the MV and the Mc101 (and recently the 707) to name but a few.. but…I don’t have painless link to Ableton (which I’m only just staring with) so I am interested (albeit I’d sell the KO2 probably).. it’s just that I found the Note app the least fun of all my app’s but I do appreciate that the controller aspect has transformed that issue..

[@timvw01]

Interesting stuff. In which programming language are these things typically programmed?

[@vertigev]

Don't think it's meant to be integrated into the studio. It's meant to be used by itself (not saying that's a good thing). Really wish it had trs midi in and out.

[@Dekkie61]

Really don't understand they didn't just add trs midi in/out, but that they limited USB midi to in or out is baffling. You were looking at it the same as I did, I really hoped this thing could complement my setup with 4 polysynths and a really nice touch surface, but then it does need to send and receive midi, just like any device from after 1980...

[@TribecaBlackstarr]

yeah but move 2!!!!!!! can hardly wait!!!!

[@fluim0102]

I mean even that can be quite a bummer. As my polyendplay+ has both midi in trough usb (but it needs power, this is hardly useful), and trs (with breakout). But most modern smaller portable midi controllers (which are the ones you'd wanna use with such a device) only have usb midi and no TRS.

[@tMena45888]

Lol that Damn G5 that was supposed to change the internet

[@faganwilcox2443]

Roland nailed it with the sp404 mk2 USB. It can be powered from the USB AND send audio back and forwards. Most phones do not have a headphone out like their demo. A single usb would be far better

[@charlescowper]

Missing Link eurorack module with Ableton Link and midi out 🎉

[@relative_vie]

Ricky don’t forget the undo button 😭

[@artephank]

Idea: you probably could use iphone with app that suports ableton link (like ableton note or korg gadget or drambo) and sync external gear with phone. However, to be honest, they shouls add midi in/out or at least two usb ports for midi

[@fridmanator]

38:26 you forgot the Undo button

[@Rustik1722]

BEGGING FOR CIRCUIT- MOVE COMPARISON

[@Etali-the-Great]

The MOVE is sketch pad device that is meant to get the music creation process started within the Ableton Live environment. It's limitations is its superpower. A ton of new songs will be created because of this device.

[@ChrisP3000x]

Limitation is a superpower?

[@Etali-the-Great]

Yes. Too many options can be the enemy of creativity.

[@ChrisP3000x]

@@Etali-the-Great The Move has many options, so you are saying it will limit everyone's creativity?

[@marcelriedel928]

Thank you so much for the in depth view and your great content overall!

[@Androsynth75]

I have the 101, never get rid of this box. It’s essentially the entire Roland sound engine in a portable box. It is quirky and it takes some getting used to. If the Move is grabbing your attention, I’d add it to your setup but keep the 101. The move looks to be adding that incredibly quick ‘from idea to song’ workflow, and since the 101 has midi/usb capabilities it would be simple to output from the move to the 101 via usb with the move set to midi out. If anything, the tr-6s is kinda redundant. It’s simple to use one of the 101’s 4 tracks as a drum machine.

[@peterroberts6044]

@@Androsynth75not who you replying to but thanks for the mc-101 inspiration!

[@DJCJ999]

Powerful and limited 🤷🏻‍♂ can you automate the start time of the sample?

[@Dekkie61]

Okay, so yeah the Ableton integration is it's USP off course. But the sounds seem to blow most of the competition away too. The synths on the Circuit are meh at best. And it doesn't play samples back chromatically, let alone polyphonically. EP-133 doesn't have synths and a much lower total polyphony. SP-404 mk2? Maybe beats it, feature wise, but it requires a totally different workflow. I think if Ableton fix the USB Midi i/o limitation (and, if true the USB hub limitation) this thing would be a beast in every dawless setup. Keys, Strings, Organs in your in your setup? Yes, please And I'd also use those MPE pads to play all my other synths and samplers.

[@rgeraldc80s]

Am I the only one who hears the high pitch hum/noise in this video?

[@ben1210]

Not being able to receive clock / transport seems like a really odd decision

[@lockyp204]

I don’t know. I’d put my $700 aud towards a Push 3 instead, if ever I was to contemplate that thing. Interconnectivity seems really half baked. It really is just a tool for Ableton, and that’s all

[@BraveSirSausage]

As a standalone box it definitely has a thick sound

[@rowanwattlol]

The high pitch sound is in this video too 😢

[@andrewlarcombe9130]

Same pitch as my tinnitus lol

[@fumarolas]

kind of makes me want a digitakt2 but the 20go storage is too small

[@trevormalcolm4328]

Is Ableton Move a glorified Circuit Tracks?

[@samprock]

For me Move a breakthrough comparing to Circuits (and MV1). No sample per note/pattern. I can do notes recording and messing with sound at any point it just changes for the whole song. 🎉

[@briannhinton]

You forgot undo a few times 😂

[@TheHumbleMike]

Fuck I just missed it 😢

[@markaprill6501]

Nothing worse than not having the right ins and outs.

[@DanielIvan707]

If I wanted stand-alone Ableton I would get a Force.

[@moad8794]

Ableton just keeps taking L's. Their pricing just dooes not reflect their products based on their competitors. I hope they wake up soon.

[@256k_]

Let’s be honest to ourselves. The ableton move is just a “baby’s first groove box” 99% of people watching here are not the target demographic for this device. It’s a good entry point for someone who’s new to music making into the ableton ecosystem but that’s about it.

[@WaroftheLightningBugs]

No one needs a “mobile” device. I’ve been there and thought I would use an organelle or op z outdoors. It never happens. The move will sit on your desk right next to your Push. If you have the impulse to do something when you’re out and about there are plenty of iPhone apps for a short capture session, i.e Note.

[@MUNRO13]

This thing looks incredibly frustrating.

[@niklibe1312]

don't get me wrong but this seems like the machine that no one needed!! Better save the money and get a Syntakt!

[@fred0c]

This thing is whack, scratching my head on this. I know they are going to fix or update, but there is a ton of better equipment slightly higher price point that do way more than this first iteration. HARD PASS

[@kozihoppy]

Let's be honest Rick, as soon as the hype for the Move fades you will move on to another more comprehensive controller.

[@vinylselektaz6475]

Pretty much..

[@osrthejourney]

We all just want a circuit pro. A combination of the tracks and rhythm with higher specs and a new synth engine.

[@faganwilcox2443]

​@@osrthejourneyno we don't

[@osrthejourney]

@@faganwilcox2443 the upvotes on my comments tell me otherwise. Maybe YOU don’t.

[@vinylselektaz6475]

@@osrthejourney I prefer a Akai Force in that form factor. At least we don't have to worry about a half baked product. Slices , Audio tracks will already be in there. These other companies like to half ass.

[@asdfasdasdfasdfasdafas]

that looks so bad

[@SimpleTrax]

The high pitched hum in your videos is getting worse.

[@BASILEMOJO]

this dude only make borin 4:4 takt video,he doesn t know anything else....

[@RickyTinez]

It’s what I love! House music baby, let’s groooove

[@NSW-ye3xw]

I thought Ableton was going to give us a knobs and sliders controller (Move) to compliment Push. I was disappointed to see this drop. A poor man's Push really.

[@Marco-ek8wu]

Grab an akai APC 40mk2 and plug it into the usb port on the push 3. Best controller by a long way for sliders and knobs. Criminal Akai discontinued it.

[@va941]

Riddle me this, i can buy a device that has a big, nice touch screen, it takes photos and videos, it makes music, it takes notes, it has internet, BT, wiFi, usb c, and the list just goes on and on...or i can buy this thing, that doesnt do anything but come short everywhere😂....what to do 🤔

[@faganwilcox2443]

It's a musical instrument not a do-it-all computer.

[@va941]

@@faganwilcox2443 you dont say? Wow, id never guessed that.... The point is, how in the hell is it so goddamn limited, when my phone is not, my phone costs the same, is way smaller, and yet is million miles ahead of this thing? You do realize it is runnin on the exact same chips that our phones do, you calling it a "musical instrument" and saying it is not a "do it all computer" is extremely ignorant.

[@faganwilcox2443]

@va941 where is the music you made with your phone then

[@faganwilcox2443]

@va941 btw, why make that ‘point’ when it’s very obvious already and this isn’t trying to sell a million features but instead a quick and intuitive workflow. You could say that about any sampler

[@va941]

@@faganwilcox2443 irrelevant to the point.

[@MadelnMachines]

What's the point of the encoders? They don't have any labels so I guess the only way to find out what you're controlling is to touch each of them one by one, check the screen and try and remember. Seems a ridiculous design.

[@RobotSnake]

There are so many pieces of gear like this and it's not difficult at all to tap a button or memorize 8 things. That's why weird complaint.

[@Blogspierre]

Incredibly useful in actual usage.

[@faganwilcox2443]

It's not hard to remember 8 things when learning an instrument. Do you need everything labelled for you in life like a child?

[@Blogspierre]

@@faganwilcox2443 moreover, they do different things depending upon what your have selected up front, e.g. drum rack, effect, clip screen, etc. to label them would require a fold-out chart.

[@J-Hz]

Labels lock the encoders tot aht function otherwise. Having none allows them to change function

[@evetalbot5696]

Do you think you could link this to Koala as a controller. Im going to get one to use as a portable sketch pad as well as use it to control live instead of the push 2 ( because it has some faults now ). Because of its lack of time stretching audio I was thinking i could launch stuff from Koala, this would be for live performance while DJing. For drumming but also loops and vocals. Even stems, CDJs lack of these function makes Koala handy.

[@Marco-ek8wu]

Push 2 is far far better than this as a controller for live. I’ve got the move and it’s a 4 track hardware version of the note IOS software.

[@evetalbot5696]

Yeah i have the push 2, it's having issues though, the move looks like its a more compact push but looking at it the functions are very similar. Obviously standalone is 4 track but in controller mode what differences are there. Also I could use it for Koala as its midi out capable, id just have to set it up to do so in Koala unless they have locked off its midi out functionality.