Ableton Push 3 - AKAI Finally Has Competition

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Ave Mcree

Ave Mcree

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@AveMcree
@AveMcree Жыл бұрын
My AKAI Force, Push 2, Maschine Plus (with the expansions), and few other things will be on ebay soon!!! What are your thoughts on this release?!?
@db_030
@db_030 Жыл бұрын
I'm kinda disappointed for it not having access to arrangement view.
@matthewgaines10
@matthewgaines10 Жыл бұрын
What are my thoughts....I have Ableton Live Standard and I don't even like it like that so it won't change anything. It looks nice and it seems to hit Ableton users where many of them want to hit. Good job but I'm unmoved. I just got an MPC Key 61 brand new for $1,349. I'm good to go. $2,000 won't be coming out my pocket. That's a laptop I already have with Ableton Standard, a controller, and money to spare.
@mindalteringfx316
@mindalteringfx316 Жыл бұрын
A lot used gear about to hit the markets lol
@SvenFx-22
@SvenFx-22 Жыл бұрын
Watching all these push 3 videos make me think the Force is the better choice. The force offers so much more including the incredible arranger view and touch screen. The updates for the Force have made it my DAWless choice. Also you know Akai is going to keep updating the force. I think you need to step back and rethink getting rid of the Force. I got all excited too when i saw all the features, i like the midi capture, but it doesn’t allow 3rd party plugins and i use Ableton with mostly 3rd party. My force works beautifully as an Ableton controller, and i easily round robin my projects. Naaaa I’m staying with my force. It is not second best. These push 3 videos just make me feel better about my force
@_thevaporz
@_thevaporz Жыл бұрын
No XLR/combo, Force already has Ableton Link, wifi and they can be found for $700 used. How are you going to update a mobile chip? You could buy a 1TB drive for the Force for $40. I give the P3 the 8gb ram tho, although it's likely soldered. Not sure how they're claiming its upgradeable hardware. The Force still has way more price to performance.
@BoloDaProducer
@BoloDaProducer Жыл бұрын
The Pause moments in intro... Priceless 😂.. Great Video!
@88keyz
@88keyz Жыл бұрын
I'm just focused on making music with what I have invested in over the pass 2 years no more gear no new plugins I'm good thank GOD 🙏🏾 👌🏾 blessed 🙌🏽 just focused on music mixing Mastering
@lurelover7065
@lurelover7065 Жыл бұрын
The tech is so advanced now, you don't even have a reference anymore to have a need. Just gear hopping.
@KainThaBrain
@KainThaBrain Жыл бұрын
Even though I’m not an Ableton user, I’m actually excited for the Ableton Push users. The features on the Push 3 is insane! Now let’s see what Native Instruments pulls out the bag. I can see them releasing an Maschine during the fall season
@mindalteringfx316
@mindalteringfx316 Жыл бұрын
Just say on IG they updated their logo…
@KainThaBrain
@KainThaBrain Жыл бұрын
@@mindalteringfx316 yeah I saw that. See, it’s looking like they prepping up!
@SpyderBlackOfficial
@SpyderBlackOfficial Жыл бұрын
This fall is definitely the rumors I've been hearing. If not a release then an unveiling is imminent
@MSNGR415
@MSNGR415 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I’m waiting for… I want a maschine plus mk2 with full vst support in stand-alone with a better hard drive and ram.
@KainThaBrain
@KainThaBrain Жыл бұрын
@@SpyderBlackOfficial NI seems to luv releasing their flagship products in the fall and winter. I don’t blame them though
@m0osebeard
@m0osebeard Жыл бұрын
MPC Live 2's speaker....frankly...so helpful and the one addition I didn't think I needed but use all the time when it's too warm for over ear headphones. Push 3 looks great, but no speakers...not gonna jump yet,
@towerrunner4675
@towerrunner4675 Жыл бұрын
Replaceable CPU is a game changer for stand-alone devices. I'm using Ableton since I've realized that I'm not smart enough for MPC Software 😄. Now I have the option to go stand-alone without changing my workflow 👍.
@nelsonmyrick1974
@nelsonmyrick1974 Жыл бұрын
Most people think that they are too dumb for Abelton
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
As well as replaceable Hard drive, and Battery, the Push 3 is basically a NUC box
@towerrunner4675
@towerrunner4675 Жыл бұрын
@@sawtooth808 NUCs don't have replaceable CPUs. Neither laptops. It's made to last forever.
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
@@towerrunner4675 Oh, my bad 😞
@SuperALBSURE
@SuperALBSURE Жыл бұрын
The thing I liked about MPC's is that you concentrate on your sequence and then can chain them together however you want to make a song. Then if you want to change a fill on say the bridge, you can do it once and then it's in every part of the song you have a bridge in. This is why I love that modular approach! And why a lot of liner DAWS like Logic and Ableton end up annoying me a bit. This Push 3 at the moment (and Push in general) can't put sequences together like that and you can't even see the arranger mode! It's a problem because I think for a machine to truly be self contained you kind of have to be able to FINNISH a song inside it. How do you do that with Push? They had an excuse when it was linked to your laptop as the idea was you jam/create on Push, finish in the laptop. But with standalone they seem to have overlooked that no one will be able to finish a track in it! Really odd... And no one seems to be talking about it. 2 grand to sketch patterns that you have to finish in your DAW anyway and no external plugins? People need to calm down lol. And the grand for an intel chip that is 25% power wise of what your MacBook Air can do for the same price? It's not exactly a big deal to plugin a super light laptop to this (new Push is much heavier than a MacBook Air). And you're gonna need it to finish anyway? I'm not convinced yet at all... I don't see any huge difference over the existing push/laptop setup for most music makers at present.
@blocSonic
@blocSonic Жыл бұрын
Just curious, which MPC do you recommend?
@VinylWave11
@VinylWave11 Жыл бұрын
@@blocSonic All stand alone MPCs are great. It just depends on what you really want. I love the MPC ONE and the MPC X SE.
@MouthOfDeathMusic
@MouthOfDeathMusic Жыл бұрын
Obviously MPC and Push have different workflows and it is about whatever works for you. That being said you can absolutely finish a song in Push. Yes the Session view is made to jam and trigger clips etc. but if you actually know how to use your clips follow actions you can arrange you projects from top to bottom like a tracker and that's how you arrange your song in session view. And yes you don't see much of a difference from a push/laptop set up because it is both as standalone. I get it your an MPC user so you don't see what the big deal is but for Ableton users this is a game changer for modular set ups with out a laptop.
@VinylWave11
@VinylWave11 Жыл бұрын
@@MouthOfDeathMusic actually I started off with Push 2 and Ableton years before my first stand alone MPC. However I have MPCs to sequence modular gear. It works very well for me. I fee that Ableton should have resolved the arrangement view for PUSH 3 as a stand alone before they released it. On paper it is an unfinished product
@MouthOfDeathMusic
@MouthOfDeathMusic Жыл бұрын
@@VinylWave11 That's cool I work with modular gear as well. I had an MPC one at one point because of the CV out puts but it didn't have clock out which was baffling. Hopefully they added that with their most recent updates. I guess its a bit odd why they wouldn't add the arrangement view but like I said you can still arrange your song top to bottom from the session view hit play and the whole song with play out. Session view can be linear or non linear I think that's where people are getting confused.
@JDiggiti
@JDiggiti Жыл бұрын
This just makes me want a used push 2 for cheap Cheap
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Жыл бұрын
You'll have a chance at mine soon! lol
@EverettDudgeon138
@EverettDudgeon138 Жыл бұрын
Right now I’m using the ISLA S2400 as my main sequencer and I’m also interested in the Retrokits RK 008 Sequencer. I really appreciate the old school workflow. As far as the MPC, Maschine+ and Push 3: For me it comes down to onboard sound (standalone MPE controller AND on-board MPE based sounds? Incredible.Incredibly beneficial to me as a composer)and workflow. Generally I’ll be using these type of devices to sequence external gear and internal sounds while I play over top. As such, according to Loopop, there’s no song mode or arranger mode. There’s also no arpeggiator. These are odd omissions and as such I’m going to hold off until I see this go past the early stages. I do love the sound of Maschine+ (I love FM8, Prism And Kontakt, reminds me a lot of the Synclavier sonically) but I do feel that Native Instruments has abandoned it and they really need to do a full on workstation with Komplete and Maschine as a standalone keyboard unit with insane CPU power and the ability to load third party VSTs to be taken seriously.
@tom22333
@tom22333 Жыл бұрын
That S2400 looks amazing
@EverettDudgeon138
@EverettDudgeon138 Жыл бұрын
@@tom22333 With a few more tweaks it'll be perfect (Right now there's a bug where step record doesn't recognize incoming midi notes. I'd also like to see an arpeggiator.) Looking forward to the DSP expansion board to add some onboard effects.
@SCMESD
@SCMESD Жыл бұрын
This is what I have been waiting for. I am getting the Push 3. I watch DECAP glide the drums. This is what I am talking about.
@rahim4411
@rahim4411 Жыл бұрын
OMG 🤣😂😂😂🤣The look on your face and getting closer was funny
@Drrolfski
@Drrolfski Жыл бұрын
Ableton basically did a mic drop today in Akai's backyard. Why? Because let's be clear about this (and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one): Literally the only reason I bought the MPC Live 2 a while ago was that Ableton did not have a device like the Push 3 on the market yet, of which I have been screaming forever. Fast forward one and a half years later and I'm still struggling with MPC's workflow. Legacy MPC heads might swear by it but the hard reality is that the current MPC platform is simply not up to snuff with today's production standards: The MPC Software is nothing short but horrible, not worthy of a DAW at all, and MPC's hardware OS is mediocre at best. So what will happen next? I will definitely get my hands on a standalone Push. Depending on the reviews over time it will be either this device or the next generation. After that, I will sell my Push 2. And if Akai in the meantime hasn't stepped up its game yet I might end up selling my MPC Live 2 as well (which is a very cool device, don't get me wrong).
@vinylselektaz6475
@vinylselektaz6475 Жыл бұрын
Push has no Phantom Power , no arrangement mode. Akai way ahead of the game. Push can't read off USB drive neither
@Drrolfski
@Drrolfski Жыл бұрын
​@@vinylselektaz6475 Phantom power is not a must-have, my Live 2 doesn’t even have it. USB hard drive support is not a killer either and will definitely come at some point. And don’t get me even started on a proper arrangement mode on the MPC. It never had one in its whole existence.
@willyum3108
@willyum3108 Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what you said, but I will never sell my Live 2.
@mjrisinsd6836
@mjrisinsd6836 Жыл бұрын
Force ain’t going anywhere except next to this Push 3 on my desk. The A/B control of the Force with 2 64 pad controllers pads…whoooooo. If Akai let you link up to this thing in some way where all the pads were linked would be sick. Imagine having four of these things strung together.
@sgkountz3280
@sgkountz3280 Жыл бұрын
MPC XSE drama was definitely warranted. This new Push shows this with its standalone upgradable design. Akai still has the advantage because the standalone software has been out longer. Now Akai has an opportunity to offer, upgradable, sound card/converters and processors. P.S. XSE owner are well within their return window 😂.
@HubertCopeland-mu3eh
@HubertCopeland-mu3eh Жыл бұрын
I thought Akai built the CPU on the SE not to be retrofitted to the X ,I would love to see 🤔 this redemption in action
@TranceCore3
@TranceCore3 Жыл бұрын
Why return the SE? just buy this on top of it.
@norenttv_
@norenttv_ Жыл бұрын
@@TranceCore3 facts
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
Native Instruments is pretty much in the fetal position weeping uncontrollably, which is a shame because I love Reaktor, oh well.
@cuttatrack
@cuttatrack Жыл бұрын
Hoping the MPC 3.0 update makes the Akai software a lot better than the current version.
@myceliumtechno
@myceliumtechno Жыл бұрын
Won't happen. They hardly re-engineer / improve old crappy workflows.
@MusicianParadise
@MusicianParadise Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is huge news, especially the upgradability option.The price is spot on, great talk!
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Жыл бұрын
Thanks MP!
@beatrepreneur
@beatrepreneur Жыл бұрын
Thank you my brotha for all that you do keep it up.
@DjangoFlaherty
@DjangoFlaherty Жыл бұрын
For someone who hasn't used one, what's wrong with the Force? Touch screen, arrangement view, crossfader, and cheaper. Seems there are pros and cons to both.
@_thevaporz
@_thevaporz Жыл бұрын
No XLR/combo, Force already has Ableton Link, wifi and they can be found for $700 used. How are you going to update a mobile chip? You could buy a 1TB drive for the Force for $40. I give the P3 the 8gb ram tho, although it's likely soldered. Not sure how they're claiming its upgradeable hardware. The Force still has way more price to performance.
@Andronicus2007
@Andronicus2007 Жыл бұрын
I'm broke, but I better start saving! As a Ableton user, this looks so good. I've been waiting for the Push 3 for about a year or so, as I felt the Push 2 had been on sale for a LONG time!
@kb420ps
@kb420ps Жыл бұрын
What I'm most impressed with is the fact that Ableton had the foresight to make the Push 3 upgradable. It's already superior to the current line of MPC's, as far as the specs. MPC X SE-4GB of ram. Push 3 -8GB of ram. MPC X SE -48GB Micro SD Card as it's internal hard drive. Push 3-256GB gen3 M.2 NVME drive. MPC X SE-no possibility to upgrade the specs. Push 3-completely upgradable . As far as standalone products go, Push 3 is definitely a step in the right direction. Akai, take some notes.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Жыл бұрын
the Push 3's processor is actually slower than the iPad Air. While the MPCs, Maschine Plus, & Force are actually on par with an i7 or actually the Apple M1... lmao
@kb420ps
@kb420ps Жыл бұрын
@@AveMcree you are absolutely WRONG!!! The MPC's ALL use a 1.8ghz processor. The Push 3's processor is 4.10ghz. That's more than TWICE as fast, as far as cpu clock speed goes. I'm not sure what processor Maschine+ has, but I saw someone do a comparison between Maschine+ and a Macbook Pro that didn't have a M1, but rather had a 2.7ghz i7. The Macbook was significantly better. So there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that Maschine+'s processor is better than Push 3's, and it definitely isn't on par with an M1.
@_fora
@_fora Жыл бұрын
@@AveMcree lol.. what are you smokin'?
@mpchead
@mpchead Жыл бұрын
I'm just interested on how chopping and working with samples is. I remember it not being as good as akai, hopefully they improved it, I'd definitely get one.
@Almada78
@Almada78 Жыл бұрын
101% AGREE !!!
@Bibblebabbler
@Bibblebabbler Жыл бұрын
I have massive fingers and the push pads are just to small. Looks like they improved the chopping but I can’t find a vid on it.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Жыл бұрын
You will get those answers tomorrow my friend
@mpchead
@mpchead Жыл бұрын
@@AveMcree good to hear it. You know how you can copy pads on the mpc, see if it can be done in the push. That's such a huge part of my workflow. Thanks Ave
@robertsyrett1992
@robertsyrett1992 Жыл бұрын
But how are the connverters?
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Жыл бұрын
lmaoooooooooo I missed your presence on my channel
@binarysun_
@binarysun_ Жыл бұрын
InMusic must be punching the air now. Ableton for whatever reason did not work with inMusic/Akai after the Push 1 and now they bring out this while inMusic in my opinion tries to sell old hardware as new as the X SE now when they should have innovated. I won’t sell my X (just yet) but I also do not get a Force (which I wanted until today). It’s not about the workflow. I know both for ever now and like each of them equally for different reasons. But the amount of innovation Ableton showed us today is what I hoped to see in the X SE and I am totally disappointed. I didn’t feel any urge to buy the X SE when it came out because I already have exactly that in the X. But the Push 3 instantly makes me want to change my whole setup to an Ableton only workflow. I hope this is a serious kick in the nuts for inMusic so they wake up
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
Oh to be a fly on the wall of the offices of Native instruments right now (hint a lot of profanities uttered in German)
@jodagold5481
@jodagold5481 Жыл бұрын
I’m very interested to see how it’s possible to add external storage re other samples on HD ect - as 256 ssd just is not enough for my use ? As much as I like sampling I do want to be able to use my indexed samples ect??
@unworthyServant08
@unworthyServant08 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for your comments on the Push 3! I think I’ll for this for next year!! Still, I hope this is the beginning of the kick in the gut AKAI meds to improve the MPC. With large MPE pads, there’d be no need for a touch strip on the Live! And being able to upgrade your MPCs intervals, beyond just adding a hard drive, would certainly give the newer MPCs more longevity!
@aneveningwithebola2727
@aneveningwithebola2727 Жыл бұрын
Cool stuff, for sure. I like the workflow I got for now, and I'm not interested in changing yet, but I agree I'm excited to see how the competitors respond.
@Grummycanader
@Grummycanader Жыл бұрын
Ableton is a much more fully featured set of software, but as of yet Push 3 is still unable to access that full functionality. Arrangement view is still not accessible from Push3. So far Loopop is the only video I’ve come across yet to mention it. Hopefully that will get addressed soon. In controller mode it’s not the hugest deal but stand-alone I’d like to be able to to at least access arrangement mode. Even if at a limited capacity.
@mrrafsk
@mrrafsk Жыл бұрын
Anyone know if the push adat can be configured to have it’s world clock set not as master so following another clock?
@truth2life_
@truth2life_ Жыл бұрын
DEFINITELY GETTING THE 3!!!!
@josephwatson5927
@josephwatson5927 Жыл бұрын
Good preview. My main questions re comparison of mpc x/one etc and push standalone, are the sequencers similar or does one platform have the edge, also how does the sampling conversion fare between the two units?
@Emily_M81
@Emily_M81 Жыл бұрын
so they add an Intel i3 to it, which is the big reason it has such a poor battery life. ...and it's still weak-ish. I feel like they should have just gone with ARM or the Maschine+ CPU and more battery time. It IS super thin. I like that, but I'd probably have forgiven them for adding a few mm for a bigger battery. I don't think we can make Max4Live devices and use them on this? Loopop said no plugins, but maybe eventually Ableton will add this sort of thing; that'd be really cool. The big reason I got a Maschine+ was because you *can* run Reaktor on it. Agreed on competition. This device may not be for everyone, but it will only drive progress from the other companies :) I am NOT a brand loyalist. I don't care if someone uses MPC, Force, SPs, Maschine+ or Push 3. I'm happy for people to make music on whatever it is they like. I'm very cynical today, and the cynic in me says the only way people will be upgrading the CPU, RAM, SSD will be with future pricey Upgrade Kits from Ableton. They've figured out how to release a Push device to keep people spending money w/ out creating a whole new hardware controller :) Glad I didn't buy a Push 2 recently LOL...
@mlou4902
@mlou4902 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal, wish I could afford it.
@riddimfernandez5139
@riddimfernandez5139 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I love your expressions and zoom ins.
@kvmoore1
@kvmoore1 Жыл бұрын
The Akai Force still has the edge as a sequencer with the ability to run an entire midi rig with a class compliant midi intwrface (like for example, my old Emagic Unitor 8 8×8 midi interface). The ADAT I/O and processor, RAM, and SSD specs on rhe Push 3 are really nice of a standalone piece of hardware though. $2000? Ouch!!!
@TigroGumi
@TigroGumi Жыл бұрын
Will this be the forth coming of the FORCE 2??
@blocSonic
@blocSonic Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting. Very curious to see what competitors do. I still have Push 1 and am considering getting a discounted Push 2 instead of Push 3. I just don't need standalone or MPE. I'd be more sold on standalone if the form factor were smaller, honestly.
@Ron-e82
@Ron-e82 Жыл бұрын
Push 2 ❤
@nytcrawlr
@nytcrawlr Жыл бұрын
Akai still has this beat on features. Will take a serious look 6 - 12 months from now to see how it evolves.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Жыл бұрын
Yeah we're weighing in heavy on this
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see what Native Instruments’ response will be, since they got sold to Vulture…uh I mean Venture Capitalists, I am not optimistic. At all.
@the16thLeVel
@the16thLeVel Жыл бұрын
How?
@jessenunez9342
@jessenunez9342 Жыл бұрын
What features ?
@kisho2679
@kisho2679 Жыл бұрын
is it better for live sampling/looping in a DJ performance?
@THA-REAPER
@THA-REAPER Жыл бұрын
Sounded like a baby was being delivered...all you heard this morning was PUSH PUSH!🤯
@Timba82
@Timba82 Жыл бұрын
I might have to get ride of my MPC Live 2. I export my stems, mix and master in Ableton anyway. Why not cut out the middle man. 🤷🏾‍♂️
@LosRol
@LosRol Жыл бұрын
What a time to be alive!
@mont-doggBeats
@mont-doggBeats Жыл бұрын
does it come with ableton inside ?
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Жыл бұрын
@@analogbanger Like always
@myceliumtechno
@myceliumtechno Жыл бұрын
The one and only thing I want to know is does Push 3 have the same dynamic audio range as MPC Live and Force. I mean, Akai nailed audio quality. The is so much room in that you can pack anything in it without getting muddy. Not so my experience with Ableton Live.
@musadaproducer2048
@musadaproducer2048 Жыл бұрын
This is 🔥 but i hope you guys know that this device will actually cost you 2500 to unlock full functionality and capability unless you already own a full version of Ableton if you do not own a full version of Ableton you will have to purchase it in order to unlock all features in standalone mode so that will cost you an additional $600 after the $1,900
@MSNGR415
@MSNGR415 Жыл бұрын
Yeah as a Ableton suite user for years the price point should at least include live standard for new users as opposed to the entry level Ableton that comes with every other piece of gear. They could still get a upgrade fee out of their customers to the suite but after spending $2000 you shouldn’t only get entry level Ableton with it.
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
Plus an additional $1300 (U.S.) to add the CPU, SSD Hard drive, and RAM memory to it, if you don’t own Ableton suite, this will be a very painful purchase
@mdnloyal1478
@mdnloyal1478 Жыл бұрын
​@@MSNGR415 I agree
@TeleporterM11
@TeleporterM11 Жыл бұрын
The Force 2 is going to be strong…….
@THA-REAPER
@THA-REAPER Жыл бұрын
I was just about to get a force soon as the money came at the end of the week...I think I'll wait 🤔
@_thevaporz
@_thevaporz Жыл бұрын
Watch next month June
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
@@THA-REAPER The upgrade kit for the Push 3 will be available later in 2023 (maybe September or October) so yeah, if I was an Ableton user, I would wait.
@THA-REAPER
@THA-REAPER Жыл бұрын
To be honest I've used everything major...however DAW wise I mainly stick to Studio One, and Ableton. I just get more things done with the workflows and the audio tools make sense. Then I'm kind of pressed to use the MPC DAW for the most put together experience with the hardware. It's really appealing to have standalone hardware for me. 20+ years on software you want to venture down other avenues. I by no means will get one piece and use it like my swiss army recipe. Right now so it's like a push will give you Ableton's stock and max plugins? A force will give you Akai/Air plugins? Ableton I kill the effects and don't reach for 3rd party too often, but the instruments are only sampler, simpler, drumracks, and external instrument. The force will be all the same stuff I already have on the various decade MPC's. Probably still end up with both so you can be a little Ableton/MPC and then be Ableton/Ableton...either way you gotta commit to audio for any 3rd party save recalls.
@MIKEMOKRONOS
@MIKEMOKRONOS Жыл бұрын
MPC KILLER HAS ARRIVED😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
@HubertCopeland-mu3eh
@HubertCopeland-mu3eh Жыл бұрын
I forgot, I wonder 🤔 how is The Push3 converters????,lol 😅😅😅, in this Akai debacle
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Жыл бұрын
lmao
@HubertCopeland-mu3eh
@HubertCopeland-mu3eh Жыл бұрын
​@@AveMcree AVE...on the real I brought the idea to Akai to make a built-in MPE keyboard where the hand rest bar sits....no cap ,when the intisipation of the XL was buzzing
@116boogie
@116boogie Жыл бұрын
Yo fam your reaction to each feature is hilarious.big up
@clayxaviermusic
@clayxaviermusic Жыл бұрын
Man my force going out the door so fast
@synkuk
@synkuk Жыл бұрын
Strangely never really got on with Ableton live .... push 3 looks interesting ... but will need to see how that small non touch screen works .. and the reduced I/O works out ... also $2k is a lot of cheddar .. Force is only 64% of the cost of the Push 3... dont know if there is $700 of extra value there ,, time will tell ...
@TigroGumi
@TigroGumi Жыл бұрын
As a little live set up for a musician, this and Expressive E Osmose would be incredible for being expressive... that and this even would complement each other with the way that they look
@arzavianharris3143
@arzavianharris3143 Жыл бұрын
Yes I’m going to buy one
@KiDAppleBorg
@KiDAppleBorg Жыл бұрын
Preordered controller version. 2 week back order. Looking tasty tho AAAAAND seem to do what I wanted my maschine mk3 to do. Leggoooo
@Ast3rixMusic
@Ast3rixMusic Жыл бұрын
This is what is funny. Ave owns a push 2 there’s not much different with push 3 outside of very few things. Personally as a push 2 user I was hoping for more workflow improvements that menu diving sucks. No way I would sell my force and have push 3 as my primary it’s not a one to one match in the features. Sure it has a battery but less than 2 hours is worse than a laptop. Ableton should have reached out to those certified trainers in the design phase to get the full weight of what needs improvement.
@Alckemy
@Alckemy Жыл бұрын
live still doesn’t have bounce in place or audio clip editing. it really holds the clip launching workflow back
@bboymac84
@bboymac84 Жыл бұрын
MADD ZACH IS BACK!!!!😁👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽💪🏽💪🏽
@tee2008j
@tee2008j Жыл бұрын
Ableton said in ICE Cube Voice "It Ain't Over MF's" 😂😂😂😂
@Hhyperspace
@Hhyperspace Жыл бұрын
Ableton just said "you already know our computer software, now here's our computer."
@AceeSoul
@AceeSoul Жыл бұрын
I'm SO glad I waited and didn't get the 2 yet!
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Жыл бұрын
🙏🏾god bless
@digitaldiezel5870
@digitaldiezel5870 Жыл бұрын
I think this would be a good unit for mixing and mastering on a standalone unit.
@iamtheonesun0fficial
@iamtheonesun0fficial Жыл бұрын
The first few seconds of your intro are mad funny Ave 😂
@IsshmanGarcia
@IsshmanGarcia Жыл бұрын
How is it standalone if you HAVE TO authorize Ableton Live software from within it to use effects and instruments?? Akai still the King, but the upgrade model has great potential. So you have to buy Ableton and this thing?
@Nightmare1up00
@Nightmare1up00 Жыл бұрын
Facts. The force is kinda the true successor to the push 1 because akai made that hardware for ableton, if I’m not mistaken.
@Rightly_Divided
@Rightly_Divided Жыл бұрын
Damn I just got an MPC X haha Looks like I am going to have to save up for this now. My wallet is hurting because of these videos, but I still love it
@DaMixWizard
@DaMixWizard Жыл бұрын
But if the converters are trash, does it make sense to buy it? Thats the main thing thats everybody's on now right?
@musicproductiontips3121
@musicproductiontips3121 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to grab this for Ableton
@MentPlus
@MentPlus Жыл бұрын
This is nice …. My FOMO vision glasses are on 😎👌🏾
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😩
@glyndwr15
@glyndwr15 Жыл бұрын
I'm all for it because it means prices on the Push 2 will come down so I can finally snag one.
@bbowen5645
@bbowen5645 Жыл бұрын
Does it have offline timestretch Elastique pro
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Жыл бұрын
We will find out tonight but my review will be up tomorrow!! I'm getting community feedback
@BigWillTheMill
@BigWillTheMill Жыл бұрын
I just hope that no one moves from Force or the MPC to this for workflow reasons. Despite being pretty much a weak laptop, we still don't have plug-ins and we still don't have an arrangement view. The specs are yes, better than what Akai has been using for the past 5 years or so, but functionally, don't expect things to change THAT much. Get at me when plug-ins and arrangement view are part of someone's package.
@bryantwalley
@bryantwalley Жыл бұрын
Gonna be interesting to see how this develops but I dont see my Force going anywhere right now.
@plugexpert
@plugexpert Жыл бұрын
Never played around with ableton or a push and always thought these are more geared towards live playing and performing. I'm curious on the workflow of recording the performances into an arrangement, can live tweak'age be recorded easily into a more traditional linear arrangement? Are there options to re-sample parts for further sound design options (wave-editor with effects build in)? I'm looking for an alternative way of making music besides Renoise, the polyend tracker and other gear and am looking into the mpc workflow as of late, this might also be a cool change of habits.
@MouthOfDeathMusic
@MouthOfDeathMusic Жыл бұрын
yes you basically jam and tigger clips in session view and it gets recorded to the arrangement view. you can then further edit and automate it.
@StrillLife
@StrillLife Жыл бұрын
LMAO @ that expression when the beat dropped on the ad.
@homie4resh980
@homie4resh980 Жыл бұрын
It took me a while to learn Ableton/DAW .I never used any Push only the Maschlne MK3. I almost pull the Trigger to buy Push 3. I will wait on the reviews. 🤔🤔✌🏽🙏🏼❤️
@VinylWave11
@VinylWave11 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, your stuff is great. For me this is not a competition for the MPC X SE. I have the PUSH 2 which is great for controlling Ableton Live. However, the PUSH 3 does not have anything that I want or need, I definitely do not need my PUSH to be stand alone. However, if a company puts out a standalone that can host VSTs that I use, Serum, Falcon, Diva, Zebra, Pigments, then I would definitely purchase it. I will not be purchasing PUSH 3. I also have my MPC ONE setup to be used with a battery, but I don't work on battery power too often (sometimes on the weekend), however I use my MPC X SE everyday. I have my own workflow, I currently work with field recordings, hardware synthesizers, guitars, drums and other percussion instruments, MPC X or ONE, and other samplers (Roland SP 404 MK2) and drum machines. I am sure the PUSH 3 will be great for some people; and, I am not knocking it, it just isn't what I want. I am definitely considering the new smaller Polyend Tracker Mini, to take with me on the go in a pocket. For $2000 I would be buying the ARP 2600M.
@PlugInGuruVideo
@PlugInGuruVideo Жыл бұрын
I find it also very interesting this "Out of the Computer" but still a computer concept is hitting right now. Don't sleep on Apple's release of Logic Pro for iOS. THAT also can count as an out of computer experience - AND this is happening with EXISTING Apple hardware. With both Final Cut and Logic Pro hitting iOS, you know, YOU KNOW they have some hard hitting upgrades coming. Exciting times my friend.
@geraldbrown9279
@geraldbrown9279 Жыл бұрын
I’m getting rid of my force also. But I’m moving to the MPC x.
@JakeSweeper
@JakeSweeper Жыл бұрын
When I got into audio production, the Push 2's age was what stopped me from getting it. Now, I'm considering the controller version and holding off on the standalone option for a bit to see what future upgrade kits look like. Also, if this doesn't inspire Akai to make a Force II, I'm not sure what will.
@X-101
@X-101 Жыл бұрын
the push 3 has no linear sequencer in standalone, funny thing is you can load inear projects from your computer and play back but you can't edit that
@carbonvibes
@carbonvibes Жыл бұрын
Good job Ave, I was interested in the PUSH 2 but something told me to wait. To me this wouldn’t be a substitute for my MPC, but an alternate instrument / companion to my Ableton software. It is nice to see another standalone unit come into play. If I get one, it probably wouldn’t happen till a year or two from now. Cool stuff nonetheless.
@AriestheLegendRVA
@AriestheLegendRVA Жыл бұрын
Definitely seems like a limited machine. It should be like $600 tops
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Жыл бұрын
Aries....... lol you so damn spicy
@AriestheLegendRVA
@AriestheLegendRVA Жыл бұрын
@@AveMcree 🙌
@RealSergeiB
@RealSergeiB Жыл бұрын
I hope Akai taking notes. After year of constant grinding on standalone mpcs i opened ableton just because i was bored and made 50 beats in ableton since. And lemme tell you. Graphic EQ,Clicking out complex midis,snare rolls and bunch of plugins etc. Makes difference. Rn i feel my mpcs are just kid toys for playing and making memphis type beats lol.
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
Native Instruments had better be taking notes, and doing some introspection right now, because Ableton, just stuffed NI into a locker and took its lunch, and Ableton is _hungry_
@fentanyljones6956
@fentanyljones6956 Жыл бұрын
The replaceable processor is a game changer. Going the absolute opposite direction of the planned obsolescence that plagues tech and damn near everything else in the world.
@LotusDollaSign
@LotusDollaSign Жыл бұрын
that upgrade kit shit sound like a game changer to me, i always felt like products should work like that, like i wanted the mpc one over the live bc of the form factor but i really wanted that battery still, and i know there's room for it in there. i'm not fuckin wit this shit being 2K wit a damn intro version of the software and having to pay even more for the full software, that shit is nuts to me.
@theycallmeheat
@theycallmeheat Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥 def might have to tap into this. sheeeeeesshhh
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Жыл бұрын
I'll have it by tonight
@theycallmeheat
@theycallmeheat Жыл бұрын
@@AveMcree cant wait for the video. I want to see how this thing is going to work
@yvesdropBeats
@yvesdropBeats Жыл бұрын
Great vid Mcree. Glad to see you’ve steered away from the Akai debate. The Push 3 looks cool but not cool enough for me. Sticking to my LIVE II.
@byrdman6752
@byrdman6752 Жыл бұрын
DeCap said Ableton told him the hard drive will be expanded to 2tb!😮
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
_Daaaaamn_ 😮 and if the CPU isn’t as powerful to the standards of Ableton power users, you can upgrade the CPU, and the battery as well (2.5 hours? Seriously Ableton, really? ) in the future as well
@ZiggyVision
@ZiggyVision Жыл бұрын
Hahaha had to laugh when you said something about the demo beat :)
@88keyz
@88keyz Жыл бұрын
Yeah Andy mack get the best beat demo Grammy award for product drop 🏆
@Itsmpj
@Itsmpj Жыл бұрын
They bring out this baby a year after i got the push2 ...
@jghosttheconscious
@jghosttheconscious Жыл бұрын
I’m getting one asap
@The_other_side-
@The_other_side- Жыл бұрын
Top tier thumbnail
@VoiceHole
@VoiceHole Жыл бұрын
Yep getting one soon for sure.
@99MUZIK
@99MUZIK Жыл бұрын
I’m glad I don’t get hype up with these standalone machine!! It will always have their limitations nothing beats a full spec laptop with a daw and portable midi controller
@CleberNisek
@CleberNisek Жыл бұрын
Calm down your GAS 😁 Force still have a lot of PROS over Push 3: - accept "outside" sound cards via usb; - arrangement view w/ better automation; - 500x better graphical interface; - lots of pad modes; - offer some things for performance that (believe) Ableton doesn't: touchscreen, crossfader, X/Y, midi assignements, etc.. - be a DIFFERENT instrument than Live + Push 2 (that a lot of you already have); - $1000 cheaper 🤷🏻‍♂
@PoboyMusic
@PoboyMusic Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree the force is still a beast. I did order one of these tho.
@DarrinNoNAME
@DarrinNoNAME Жыл бұрын
For $2000 I would expect more CV gates and an XLR/TRS combo jack, at least. I wouldn't go as far to say generous on the price. The live 2 has a little more to offer on the inputs and outputs but I think the price point for the push 3 is a little much. $1699 I think would be a comparable price point. I'm sure many would disagree and that's fine. Your Pockets is your pockets. If I were to get this item, I would go with the Push controller over the standalone. I don't think the standalone components are worth $1,000 more dollars (Well, I guess it's possible depending on the type of ram and hard-drive space). However, I do like the option to upgrade your push at a later time if you so choose. That's pretty dope. I have no regrets on the MPC XSE purchase though. it's offers much more (outside of the ram hard drive, and MPE functionality). Plus I just love the MPC workflow... Ohhhhh And let's not forget. The Push 3 purchase doesn't come with Ableton live standard or suite. it comes with Ableton Live intro. So you still have to upgrade even after paying $2,000 (if you get the standalone version) from Intro to either Standard or Suite, you will have to pay an additional 300 to 550 something for additional live features (Unless you already own Live standard our Suite).
@hailnaryproductionz3661
@hailnaryproductionz3661 Жыл бұрын
Some of those features of push 3 reminds me of that Linn Strument by Roger Linn.
@TigroGumi
@TigroGumi Жыл бұрын
With the processor and so forth being able to be upgraded, you think some people will do some crazy next level computer upgrades with this? when will LLT do a water cooled version of it? 🤣
@hobonickel840
@hobonickel840 Жыл бұрын
I think I see a new marketing masterpiece Ableton could really start pumping out the free and discounted packs. And I bet they have some ringers saved just for the occasion ...will "PUSH" everyone toward giving up them bananas for this thing
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