Above international law? UK stands by Rwanda deportation scheme • FRANCE 24 English

What does today's Britain stand for? Do illegal migrants deserve to be deported thousands of kilometres away to a country they have never been to? An eleventh-hour ruling from the European Court of Human Rights is for now halting the maiden flight in a scheme to send them to Rwanda. Despite outcry that extends all the way up to Prince Charles and the Archbishop of Canterbury, the government vows to fight it and is even making veiled hints at reviewing its relationship with the ECHR.
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[@eyeofthetiger6002]

It's a bit rich of the French to be concerned about this since they are the root cause of this illegal migration in the first place by failing to patrol its borders adequately whether through incompetence or design despite receiving millions of pounds from Britain to prevent this from happening!

[@eyeofthetiger6002]

@George Washington this would have happened whether Britain was in the EU or not.

[@blazeyfam]

What about all the rest, did the French force them to embed mass surveillance ignoring article 8 of the EU HRA and article 12 of the UN HR act, they are expanding it to everyone it's not just about migrants

[@blazeyfam]

5 giant megaprisons being built, that's for British people not migrants, these authoritarians will be removed before they even get chance to pursuit their goals, they are wasting their money

[@user-nf9xc7ww7m]

Two things: 1) My understanding is that refugees must go to the first safe country, not pick and choose which country. Those that do pick their country would be considered migrants. 2) I see executive choice in which laws to carry out and how. How is this different with treaties? The executive is given a lot of leeway in their execution of laws. If signatories have issues with the execution and adherence of the treaty, then they can bring grievance, just as people can sue the govt for failing to adhere to a law passed by parliament. If this is the point of the ECHR, then fine. If in that case, the ECHR can suspend their membership or the UK can withdraw (which I believe requires a parliamentary vote).

[@GeorgeAAspros]

Solving the problem of unsafe trafficking across the Channel by trafficking people to Africa…. Unreal. If they wanted to go to Rwanda they surely would have done that without going through Europe.

[@natbirchall1580]

I also want many think but I accept that not all is possible and somethings can cause even bigger problems so what is the problem.

[@GeorgeAAspros]

@@natbirchall1580 the problem is allegedly unsafe boats being used to arrive in England & the fact these refugees aren’t wanted in England. Sending people to Rwanda won’t solve the issue of unsafe boats crossing to England & treats refugees like chattel. I’m sure they’d prefer France or Belgium to Africa.

[@natbirchall1580]

@@GeorgeAAspros If your sure to end up in Rwanda you would think you would stop right?

[@GeorgeAAspros]

@@natbirchall1580 I think if they knew the correct process they would have done it the first time & let them stay in the country they were already. This response is xenophobic. Don’t feign interest in their safety and ship them to Africa like they’re chattel. That makes zero sense. Rwanda is safer than France or Belgium?

[@natbirchall1580]

@@GeorgeAAspros it's not about were is the safest place

[@adrianodimarafino1168]

I think Laura made a very important comment. My observation of Boris Johnson is he just keeps making drastic decisions to keep his political position and not thinking of Britain and its people in the long haul. A good reputation is important for Britain because of its history whether people agree or not, his actions will also affect whether the British Royal Family are around after the Queen or not, Leaving the ECHR, Ripping up the Good Friday Protocol, diverting migrants etc is not intelligent. I can’t take him seriously after he stood in front of the United Nations recently quoting miss piggy while actual global crises are occurring. He doesn’t conduct himself nor does he speak publicly with the education and composure we expect from Modern day England.

[@chrisdeep8417]

Poor miss Piggy.

[@taniakeen4375]

Its alway easy to make decisions for another person when you have never walked a day in their shoes.

[@richasmarie]

Why don’t they go to country like Saudi, Oman turkey etc.. why only developed countries? Aren’t Muslims told to only move to Muslim lands?

[@richasmarie]

There is a limit to how much these governments can accept, the issue is it’s the taxpayers money that they will have to spend, and the taxpayers may not be willing.

[@WOKETUBE-SUX]

France controlling its borders properly would have prevented this!!!

[@mijicmugendo]

France does control its borders. Its the uk that doesn't. France is not a prison and people are free to leave any time they want. Maybe the British could get off their lazy backsides and protect their own borders. The British government won't even put up checks at Dover port

[@christinal3041]

Exactly

[@Sr.ChilePepper]

The Brits staying within their borders would have prevented this and many other of the world's problems.

[@hunty1970]

How so?

[@ec7696]

Eh? But you got your brexit, you took back control, stop whinging about it.

[@samatha1994]

Send Boris, Putin and Trump to Rwanda. Actually, that's not fair on Rwanda, or the planet earth.

[@Carly_Zimmerman]

And what about the British children being sexually assaulted by these men?

[@arlenehiles2689]

@@Carly_Zimmerman Yes very true. Children who get separated or sent on their own to another country or end up in migrant camps etc are vulnerable and at high risk from sexual predatory trafficking etc. One can't very well send s child to Rwanda, as it's inhumane.

[@rravisankar3355]

No one has any right to intrude in to another country.

[@arlenehiles2689]

I don't think one can realistically expect a person trying to escape terror and brutal governments of their country, to think and worry about as to weather it's right or not to invade another country. I am sure we would do the same in their shoes, if living in a country where terror, torture and so on is going on.

[@jaketaylor3901]

Britian criticizing others on human rights means nothing when one court desicion makes them want to leave the EU Human Rights Pact.

[@bcanuck]

The EU human rights pact is destroying the people of Europe.

[@blazeyfam]

They also ignore the right to privacy for british citizens same with America and the other 3 clown countries who talk about human rights

[@greeko25]

I'm surprised by Tomlinson's heartless coldly calculating tone considering he is a very young person.

[@cowabungahgeoff]

An interesting conversation. Glad that there is mild disagreement and that everyone in the conversation is respectfully concerned.

[@hmm3597]

United Kingdom is a sovereign nation that don't have listen to international bureaucracy.

[@filipepedro8272]

lol...UK actually is one of the founders of the so called international bureaucracy

[@amritpalsingh3293]

Russia also says the same

[@ec7696]

We were international leaders, now we’re becoming a pariah state.

[@blazeyfam]

We literally founded international human rights these authoritarians will get a sharp shock when they target the wrong types of people, they are inching ever closer to it and they will see what happens when they impose it on us

[@CapAnson12345]

Rwanda or the North Sea. The choice is yours.

[@nunewsmama3461]

Is this a serious question? I can give you the name of many Countries currently ignoring international law.

[@MonikaBardell]

What about the refugee camps in Turkeye and Greece? Are they legal and human ?

[@arlenehiles2689]

I doubt that these camps are remotely fit for habitation. I feel very sorry for children innocently caught up in such a place. I feel the children could be placed in foster care untill they over 18 at least, and then given a chance to get a qualification at something, so that they are more able to fend for themselves by 23 to 25 and can get a job either in the UK or another country.

[@vizibilibende5194]

don't worry we will send them to england after the 2023 elections... you can ask when they come... :)

[@001GrandExplorer]

Some countries other than the UK might get encouraged! The living costs are half at least!! A country further away from conflicts and wars.

[@glenntojoy6283]

Shade…rhetorical question.

[@user-fw4kk1ym9y]

🙄

[@milaong9618]

What creative measures these governments can come up with. Bring to mind Japan government purchasing of the disputed Diaoyo from Private owners

[@bibibibi9457]

👏👏👏👏👏💯

[@finleygunn8726]

The European chort of human rights should not be involved

[@trmon8890]

Question Illegal migrates can be legally removed for breaking the law?

[@arlenehiles2689]

It all depends on the severity of the crime I think. I can understand people's concerns, considering terror attacks that have occurred in England. Like a car being driven into people walking across a bridge over the Themes River and the terror attacks on the trains. Such persons should be deported. Also rapists who rape and harm both men and women, foreign drug dealers etc. But otherwise if the migrant has broken a law by illegally entering the UK, he or she may have done so understandable reasons. Like migrants fleeing from terror in their own countries, or people who have been smuggled in to be used as sex slaves etc who did not know beforehand they would end up in such a condition and who may have had their passport removed to prevent them escaping. Slavery firs go on in the UK as well as sex slavery. Young women thinking they comming to the UK for a few months to do a moddling assignment etc only to find out to Kate it's anything but. Usually these person's are held against their will. I think with people fleeing from terror, should be allowed to stay fir at least five years, do courses etc that can prepare them to get work in and be independent in another country willing to take them. Like do nursing or care work courses etc Also bare in mind that illegal migrants fleeing to the UK, would not be aware of the laws in advance in the UK. I think the people trafficking smugglers who make a fortune out of vulnerable people sending them off in unsafe boats etc are the ones to go after. But it's s very difficult problem.

[@blazeyfam]

Can our government be removed for breaking the law, nope, so nobody should be removed or jailed till they are

[@MotoTvWoodsFarm]

UK has to comply with the rules of various groups it has joined - So unless it abandons its membership of European Human Rights group it will have to comply this could prove very expensive for UK in additional fines etc from EU

[@wom_Bat]

Slava uk 🇬🇧

[@arlenehiles2689]

Let's hope the UK abides by the EU human rights laws, as we don't want a repeat of past Colonialism, whose harsh laws caused misery for even British born citizens, never mind foreigners, no thanks.

[@QueenetBowie]

Not sure who is right, short answer is it’s complicated. I can understand all the different sides.

[@liamp.8826]

As they should! This Rwanda thing is probably Boris biggest success and now i fully support this man!

[@dub604]

Cuckoo..!!

[@p906]

Look for a new leader. The world is laughing at uk...

[@esnezinu_neko8768]

@@p906 nop. The world is admiring first uk politican with a spine.

[@ec7696]

Yes, Johnson’s biggest success. It’s a complete failure.

[@dub604]

@@esnezinu_neko8768 He has no spine, no brain and no balls.

[@natbirchall1580]

Please stop talking about hypocritical and being an example you have your interests and you weigh the interests of others.

[@DSAK55]

Who does Johnson think he is? Viktor Orbán

[@ubidog6312]

I agree with the comments below regarding failure of stopping the immigrants sailing to the UK, there are also many other historical issues such as supplying iraq with nuclear processing equipment and plants. Kindly removed by Israel. So that argument is null and void. However, I do agree that the UK is also testing the boundaries of human rights too. For example the basic human right to defend oneself. Its made open season for criminals. There are many others such things arnt the will of the people nor have they been consulted and violating basic rights.

[@blazeyfam]

no right to defence, no right to privacy, no right to put what you want in your own body the list goes on it's nothing but a joke

[@casualdrifterendgames7307]

Every country on this planet no matter there geography or religion needs and must take full responsibility for the welfare of all there citizens.. That includes looking after all there temporary living status...

[@JW-YT]

No the governments job is to protect the borders. My living standards, welfare and personal safety are my own responsibility. This is the same for every country. Dont know what planet you live on.

[@esnezinu_neko8768]

Your position is referencing quite political question. Also seems you are misusing word citizens(maybe you should use word residents). Citizenship is earned status by completing some criteria, exams, showing that you are integrating, assimilating and picking up hosting country culture. Nobody, no country owes you anything. Do your homework, read laws how to become citizen, try integrating, assimating if you have decided to come to a country and become its citizen. Commit.

[@casualdrifterendgames7307]

Think u all are missing the point in your comments it's not about you it's about your responsibility. To adhere to you birth right..

[@JW-YT]

@@casualdrifterendgames7307 "your responsibility" there is no responsibility. I do not owe anyone anything.

[@Pluto60]

It’s 🤑 for European countries can talks

[@amritpalsingh3293]

Now countries in the EU must impose sanctions for breaking international rules based system

[@shelleyphilcox4743]

@Amrit Pal Singh You do realise that the UK is one of the most compliant countries with international law, has 9ver 80% compliance with the ECHR and gets taken to the ECHR very rarely? Compare the UK compliance record to France (irony) and Germany... It would be interesting for other ECHR countries to sanction the UK over non compliance when their own records are significantly worse. I invite you to look at the ECHR published statistics by country on their website.

[@blazeyfam]

@@shelleyphilcox4743 Nothing is worse than ignoring right to privacy and that's what they do and continue to do, releasing NCA stats that can only be obtained with blanket surveillance to stoke fear in the population and a pro authoritarian society

[@ramo2377]

Uk has noooo future and what you can export????? Island …..

[@louismuenji1459]

Rwadan is small i hope this not to use congo land

[@wom_Bat]

Slava EU & UK. let UK follow the Australian protocol!

[@wom_Bat]

Slava UK 🇬🇧

[@taniakeen4375]

I'm shocked sounds like selling people, it will go wrong go wrong go wrong.

[@andrewwhite3793]

It really does not matter anymore France has been badly wounded with regards to Brexit and acts like a spoilt partner who has been spurned so will take any opportunity to lob a spanner into the works.

[@hunty1970]

Interesting. Can you expand please.

[@ec7696]

France couldn’t care less. I’m rather surprised France, and other eu countries, haven’t got the rule book out and started checking every person and every item from uk.

[@petergreenwood7731]

It puts a value ($$) on a human life. Will it develop into a bidding war between 3rd world countries?

[@Pluto60]

Why everyone Like to be independent from the uk 🇬🇧& USA 🇺🇸. lol 😂 but screaming 🙀 refugees human rights status

[@RonaldShea5680]

The vastly overpopulated UK can take no more of this insanity, our once wonderful country is systematically being destroyed financially, culturally and ethnically. Absolutely deplorable.

[@amansouravsrivastava2405]

Sounds similar!

[@mellowInventor]

@@amansouravsrivastava2405 "Another strand of opposition to Malthus's ideas started in the middle of the 19th century with the writings of Friedrich Engels (Outlines of a Critique of Political Economy, 1844) and Karl Marx (Capital, 1867). Engels and Marx argued that what Malthus saw as the problem of the pressure of population on the means of production actually represented the pressure of the means of production on population. They thus viewed it in terms of their concept of the reserve army of labour. In other words, the seeming excess of population that Malthus attributed to the seemingly innate disposition of the poor to reproduce beyond their means actually emerged as a product of the very dynamic of capitalist economy. Anthropologist Eric Ross depicts Malthus's work as a rationalization of the social inequities produced by the Industrial Revolution, anti-immigration movements, the eugenics movement[clarification needed] and the various international development movements.[51] "

[@blazeyfam]

Yeah by authoritarians like Patel and Boris ignoring the UN charter on human rights with Tempora.

[@whitewolf55673]

@@mellowInventor When ur work is being used to support the theories of Karl Marx. U know you've got a problem lol

[@balayethossainjoy1345]

🇿🇦🇧🇩 Please Let Us We Pray Daily Five Time Then Life Will Be Change Forever Inshallah Believe It Mighty Allah ☯️

[@fikredesta6203]

🇬🇧 🇺🇸 🇫🇷 They make the laws to enforce It on other countries they don't live by their own laws. For example laws like When you keep what you took it is not stealing . If you can convince them It is true It is not a lie. If there is no witness you didn't do it. If you can convince them they are your slaves you own them. If they can't prove it belongs to them it is not a stolen goods to sell and buy So many loopholes in their laws conveniently set up In their favor.

[@africanherbsman9488]

Is a racist law.

[@blazeyfam]

Because we are ran by racists and not just racists either they don't like any minority, you have to tick all their boxes, drug addicts are criminals to them not patients, people with mental problems are also criminals instead of offering help they spy and log the details of everyone with problems to attempt to attack them later when they get a willing participant to do it, it's closer to full blown fascist 1984

[@xrc5540]

Dear "allies and partners" we are part of the rules based international order, in particular we love to wage wars.

[@RonaldShea5680]

An immediate withdrawal from the ECHR is absolutely crucial to enable the UK to effectively address the grave and seemingly unending myriad of problems associated with illegal immigration.

[@blazeyfam]

They don't need to leave it, they ignore international law anyway, Snowden, Assange all those leaks, spying on the entire population, ran by scumbags

[@AshishGupta-gb5iv]

UK is very mean country

[@clara.walker]

Not at all. Do you have an idea how many souls have been lost in this migrant crossings, it aches to see an entire family perish at sea. France hasn't been helpful either. This is just to curb the crossings not that they do not want to welcome people who need safety.

[@christinal3041]

Ik is not mean county! We gave all immigrants living in 5 starts hotel , army Barack give the money foods ! While many British homeless living on the streets! Children in poverty in school meals !

[@JW-YT]

Yet hundreds of thousands still try to get into our mean racist country every year. Wonder why?

[@AshishGupta-gb5iv]

@@HBTeamaker i am glad being uneducated, because I don't want to be cruel after being educated as Britishers.& My comment is not particularly on this video but on UK's reality.

[@esnezinu_neko8768]

Then why people try so hard to get in?

[@mutesah]

France offers cheap visas to its francophone colonies to come to UK just like Berusian does

[@laserprawn]

I wonder if Connor would like to send refugees from Ukraine to Rwanda? Perhaps not, and I wonder what the difference is? Hmm...

[@patrickoconnor2181]

As a Brit, I apologize for all the BNP nonces saying this is "France's fault".

[@blazeyfam]

Are they even real people or just astroturfing since that's allowed in a so called democracy fake profiles supporting the government.