Abused at Christian Summer Camp, Survivors Say They’ve Been Kept Silent

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For years, a former staffer at Kanakuk Kamps, one of the country’s most popular Christian summer camps, abused dozens of boys. Vice News speaks with survivors, who say the camp has used confidentiality clauses to keep them quiet.
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@kimberini6465
@kimberini6465 2 жыл бұрын
Mr White saying "that guy was abusing kids, but otherwise he was such a great guy," is the worst thing I have heard yet. Like it was just a tiny lapse in judgment to molest 60+ kids over several years?!?! Resign, Mr White!
@rachelg9873
@rachelg9873 2 жыл бұрын
This needs more likes. This is what people need to take away from this. Remove the leadership. All of them.
@yoyosworld2773
@yoyosworld2773 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It’s disgusting.
@prof_kaos9341
@prof_kaos9341 2 жыл бұрын
One or two drops in a cup of goodness.... One or two less zeros on my bank balance.
@otohime8516
@otohime8516 2 жыл бұрын
@@rachelg9873 They should get a lot of fire
@mortenrahm
@mortenrahm 2 жыл бұрын
yeah he even called him a good role model and that is fuckin disgusting and sick if you ask me
@CastroBlues
@CastroBlues 2 жыл бұрын
That camp and organization needs to be shut down immediately. Predatory.
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
YES 👏
@quantumjourney1
@quantumjourney1 2 жыл бұрын
"Did I recommend he be fired? No ma'am ... Because we believed that it was immature decision making and we needed to help him make better decisions" So in other words they knew that he had committed a predatory crime, and actively decided not to do anything about it. These people need to be in jail for enabling
@jordanbautista8351
@jordanbautista8351 2 жыл бұрын
I attended the rival camp 😂
@Louis-nf4iy
@Louis-nf4iy 2 жыл бұрын
The majority of them are the same way. I believe all these camps have predators in them.
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
@@quantumjourney1 💯💯💯
@damirsarac151
@damirsarac151 2 жыл бұрын
I love how they call pedophilia "inappropriate" and "immature" ,a lot of sick action gets so lovely adjectives.
@stitches768
@stitches768 Жыл бұрын
As much as I'd argue that 'inappropriate' is a weaker way of saying 'disgusting' so it could be okay...considering the subject matter, you are absolutely correct...
@dub16100
@dub16100 Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@jewsaregenocidalhores
@jewsaregenocidalhores 7 ай бұрын
It’s not a coincidence he looks like a monster
@KayMoneyRecords
@KayMoneyRecords 6 ай бұрын
@@jewsaregenocidalhoresoff topic but i love your profile picture
@davidperry4013
@davidperry4013 6 ай бұрын
I call pedophilia "PURE EVIL!"
@lunaluna6474
@lunaluna6474 2 жыл бұрын
major major props to the families fighting this. esp the mom and dad that refuse to sign the NDA. They're doing so much for so many other families by refusing to stay silent about what their son went through. these are some genuinely good people. i really hope this camp gets shut down
@julietorres7298
@julietorres7298 2 жыл бұрын
Satan prounces around like an angel of light. He wants to distort the truth and the light. Jesus has never distorted anything. He is the truth and the life. Evil happens when people go AGAINST what God has said to do.
@robertlussier2944
@robertlussier2944 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean prances? And to be able to get away with these horrific acts by hiding behind religion is almost as despicable as making excuses for them. Do you defend the perverts in the Catholic Clergy as well?
@lunaluna6474
@lunaluna6474 2 жыл бұрын
@@julietorres7298 god isnt real
@lunaluna6474
@lunaluna6474 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertlussier2944 im athiest
@taramoonshadow363
@taramoonshadow363 2 жыл бұрын
AMEN!!
@rosesmith6925
@rosesmith6925 2 жыл бұрын
People with perversions seep into any jobs where children are vulnerable and trusting of authority. Churches, schools, boy scouts, medical field, police etc. When you have children, no matter how they are related to you, you must always be alert and listen to what they tell you...and what they don't ☮️❤️
@jollygoodgordon5580
@jollygoodgordon5580 2 жыл бұрын
This what Jesus think about people who abuse children Matthew 18:6 6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
@jollygoodgordon5580
@jollygoodgordon5580 2 жыл бұрын
And verse 1-7 1 At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?” 2 He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. 3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me. Causing to Stumble 6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!
@Blurryfaceakarye
@Blurryfaceakarye 2 жыл бұрын
❤️🥺
@amir3515
@amir3515 2 жыл бұрын
@@jollygoodgordon5580 Jesus forgives all though
@sdneytaco2226
@sdneytaco2226 2 жыл бұрын
@@amir3515 sick god
@joshuaromero4745
@joshuaromero4745 Жыл бұрын
My heart stopped when I read this title in my feed. I'm a survivor of sexual abuse at a Christian summer retreat, however it was by my own youth pastor. I was being abused in the mornings, missing the morning devotionals and when I did attend the woman who held the class treated me as delinquent I assume for poor attendance. No one bothered to ask me what was going on. I spoke up while on the trip and I faced a backlash immediately from leaders of my own church and the camp. Luckily, law enforcement back in my home state of Florida was open to listening to me and took action. Justice was served as the man who assaulted me and other friends of mine who were members of the church was imprisoned for life. I never took civil action which I regret because these adults were liable for allowing this to happen and calling me a liar when I came forward. But after hearing this had i taken settlement money I wouldn't be able to use my voice to speak out against this horror.
@robasiansensation3118
@robasiansensation3118 2 күн бұрын
I'm sorry this happened to you and I wish you to find peace on your healing Journey.
@winglessfairy564
@winglessfairy564 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the camp company has the *nerve* to sue a family who’s child was sexually abused due to *their* negligence is beyond me
@Creepystalker102
@Creepystalker102 2 жыл бұрын
It’s straight up evil
@tyramey1265
@tyramey1265 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t know many Christians?
@childofcascadia
@childofcascadia 2 жыл бұрын
Typical "Christian" behavior.
@multi-milliondollarmike5127
@multi-milliondollarmike5127 2 жыл бұрын
True change comes from within and desiring it. Not every Christian will change their ways if their being coerced into it with dogma. They have to want it and most don't. It would be better for them to do shadow work to acknowledge their darkness and find healthy ways to deal with it, rather than denying their urges and being ruled by them.
@chasie5928
@chasie5928 2 жыл бұрын
That’s Christians for you lmao
@nessyb5371
@nessyb5371 2 жыл бұрын
Taking advantage of children during a bible study session is another level of evil. Makes me feel so sick when I think about it. And anyone who try's to cover up or make excuses for the abusers are JUST AS BAD as the predators. Sorry to everyone who suffered - no one should have to experience this stuff in life. It really hurts hearing that these things can happen. I can't imagine how the victims feel. Try stay strong everyone.
@estelahernandez694
@estelahernandez694 2 жыл бұрын
anyways, so the solution, then nessy, DONT TRUST NO ONE IN THAT CHURCH OR ORGANIZATION.... not even pastor... just take care of your own kids and YOU teach them anything you want at home, without a religious figure who could molest your child or children... simple way to live life without having to expose your most beloved.
@0LadyV0
@0LadyV0 Жыл бұрын
They were just acting out scenes from the Bible. It's a disgusting work of middle eastern fiction.
@stalker9395
@stalker9395 Жыл бұрын
This post healed my soul....thank you so much
@donaldbell2554
@donaldbell2554 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry your kid was abused but next years free....wtf
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
Right?!
@doubles1545
@doubles1545 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the fruit basket. A fruit basket makes anything better.
@CadySharpe
@CadySharpe 2 жыл бұрын
@@doubles1545 And an iPad
@RJ-mh3ox
@RJ-mh3ox 2 жыл бұрын
@@CadySharpe somebodies priest father “oh now we’re talking, praise Jesus”
@julietorres7298
@julietorres7298 2 жыл бұрын
Satan prounces around like an angel of light. He wants to distort the truth and the light. Jesus has never distorted anything. He is the truth and the life. Evil happens when people go AGAINST what God has said to do.
@tammysavoie9771
@tammysavoie9771 Жыл бұрын
This is so disturbing on so many levels. Any type of sexual assault is a perpetual sentence for the victims, affecting every relationship the victim will have. I'm so sorry for the victims.
@nebulavoyage27
@nebulavoyage27 2 жыл бұрын
I was at the camp at the time this happened and I was one of the victims, and during the trial he did not see guilty at all and on the counslers overheard the owner trying to cover up the situation. It was all extremely uncomfortable and very aggressive there and Pete was evil to his core. Thank you for making this video this provides a voice for those that feel like they couldn't say anything.
@musicneutral233
@musicneutral233 2 жыл бұрын
My heart goes to you Daniel. This is evil disguised as christianity.
@Fil0girl
@Fil0girl 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for stepping up, my brother. It's time we Christians stop covering up for these anials.
@haleytruslow7200
@haleytruslow7200 2 жыл бұрын
I was there too during this time- I’m so sorry this happened and I hope you’re doing okay.
@nikicarrie4071
@nikicarrie4071 2 жыл бұрын
Omg ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ that is terrible
@deannahaworth7666
@deannahaworth7666 2 жыл бұрын
My heart is sad for you , I'm so sad that this camp is still in business , may you find peace and healing , I cannot imagine how tough and hard that must be ❤️
@nerdgeekcosplay909
@nerdgeekcosplay909 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a little girl I wanted to go to sleep away camp . My mom never let me and as a kid I was pissed I wanted to be a camper so bad. Now that I’m an adult I now know my mom was protecting me. THANK GOD MY MOM NEVER SENT ME!
@rosannacellini2158
@rosannacellini2158 2 жыл бұрын
My mom would let me, only go to day camp at our playground, across the street. We all had to have signed permission to go on bus trips to local animal refuge to hike or to other parks. Parents would often volenteer to go and help camp councillors. It was fun and nothing bad ever happened. Kids can be kids. It's a pity these terrible people made a bad name for camps. Not every person is a pervert. My mother did teach me well though. There are very good Christian people and I focus on them. Not the hateful remarks.
@doeeyes2
@doeeyes2 2 жыл бұрын
I went to summer camp dor the last 2 weeks every summer and it was amazing, probably one of the happiest experiences in my childhood. There wernt any weirdo adults around, our councellors were age 17-22 and they had to be a camper their before becoming a councellor. I worked as a Councillor one summer it was awesome. Mine wasnt religious but we did study a lot of traditional native culture and things like maps, astronomy, fires, crafts, drama, dance, sports, horseback riding, boating etc. Also councillors were never alone with us ever! Damn I wish could go back tbh. 😪
@thelittlemermaid6645
@thelittlemermaid6645 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosannacellini2158 this is how it should be
@decristal48
@decristal48 Жыл бұрын
I only sleep away camp with my parents, they wanted me to have the experience but they never left me alone. It was fun indeed, and actually feel safe. Years later, my dad send my little brother to a camp alone, it went well too, but I couldn't help but worrying about him until he came back. We had luck, but it's always better to prevent
@aleablue
@aleablue Жыл бұрын
They weren’t all bad. Overnight camp was lit for me and I literally didn’t know anyone there (I was 9). I left with friends though 😊
@4skiin
@4skiin 2 жыл бұрын
I was abused at a child and no matter what it sticks in my mind. I sometimes wish I could have amnesia or anything to forget my past. I feel for these victims and I’m so glad they are coming out and fighting for justice.
@decristal48
@decristal48 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry that that happend, if you can go to therapy I recommend it to you. There's some treatments for ptsd specially for these cases, they could help you. Send you a lot of hugs and only happiness for you 💛
@CrowSpirit1977
@CrowSpirit1977 Жыл бұрын
Get over it
@starpink1
@starpink1 Жыл бұрын
@@CrowSpirit1977 what the
@sm24california
@sm24california Жыл бұрын
@4skin you should be proud of yourself for your strength… remember your faith is stronger and more powerful than the evil of these hypocrites and what they did to you… you are strong and will gradually get stronger and minimize that terrible experience mentally because you are on a much more important journey of concoousness in your life and purpose..much love to you
@q7jdwomfvkbj74
@q7jdwomfvkbj74 Жыл бұрын
it never ever leaves you
@kosheronlynobacon1542
@kosheronlynobacon1542 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to me the judge that ruled that the camp can't be held liable is in someone's pocket.
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@beccab4112
@beccab4112 2 жыл бұрын
Right. Pete Newman abused these boys on the camp grounds, at camp events, at Bible studies, as a camp director. He built his life around having access to children at his place of work - Kanakuk. Joe white vouched for him many times to families and paraded Pete out as a draw for kids to want to come to camp. He abused some of them at the events their parents paid for them to attend. How in the world can a judge argue this not have anything to do with furthering the business of camp?
@originalunoriginal4055
@originalunoriginal4055 2 жыл бұрын
That judge probably partakes in inappropriate activities which involves victims under the age of 18 or 21!
@jocelyncooper1738
@jocelyncooper1738 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, no judge worth their salt would make such a ruling, after everything thats happend.
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
@@beccab4112 📢📢👏👏👏👏
@bethanymclean2136
@bethanymclean2136 2 жыл бұрын
I worked at a YMCA run summer camp when I was 17/18 and we had such strict rules in order to prevent stuff like this and to recognize signs of sexual abuse. We were not allowed to be alone with a camper ever. One time one of my campers ran off from the group during a large meeting and I went after her and had to spend a decent amount of time trying to convince her to come back to the group. Afterwards I got in major trouble and was yelled at because I was alone with her. It's crazy that what happened at that camp was allowed for so long.
@galactic2728
@galactic2728 2 жыл бұрын
Smaller organizations like Kanakuk often lack the same level of safeguards against sexual abuse because they don't have a large leadership to regulate them, especially if they're church-run. Many people have said that communal showers should also be ended at camps because there are numerous reports of sexual abuse occurring between campers if they are nude together.
@mariekatherine5238
@mariekatherine5238 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve worked at a Christian based summer camp, and you just can’t be too careful in hiring staff. We once had a counselor who made a few “off” comments during orientation week, so that the directors spoke with him privately. They decided to let him stay, but had two other staff to always keep an eye on him. The second day it was noticed that he positioned himself right behind the boys as they came to the sink to brush their teeth, he’d lean over them and take their hand and say, “Here, let me show you the right way,” and he’d lean up against them. He did this twice. The other counselor called him over and sent him to the supply building for a broom, just to get him out. The directors were summoned immediately, another left in charge of the cabin while the counselor told what he’d seen. There was then no question. The directors called the police and the pervert was told what he’d been seen doing, and to explain himself. He denied it, of course, but was told he was fired, and that he’d be escorted to the cabin to retrieve his belongings while the campers were at their first activity. The police arrived then, and took evidence from the counselor. They then called the two boys individually, to ask if anything had bothered them while tidying up after breakfast, washing up, brushing teeth, making your bunk, etc. One boy obviously had no idea what they were talking about. The other, however, somewhat reluctantly said that he wanted to move cabins because one of the counselors “is creepy, always looking at me and putting his arm around me.” I’m not sure what happened after that except that the counselor left with the cops, in handcuffs. I remember seeing his stuff in a big pile in the lean-to near the mailboxes, which was odd. When I passed by maybe an hour later, it was gone. A select number of older or very mature staff were called to a 9:30 PM meeting in the “Bear’s Den” where we learned what had happened. Of course, we told the matter confidential. Any talk or behavior was to be reported immediately. It was really rather shocking as there had never, to anyone’s knowledge, been such a problem. It was eventually discovered the man had been arrested one other time while a junior in high school for fondling a much younger boy in the school bus. It had never occurred to anyone that it was necessary to check with the police before hiring a teen counselor. After that summer, the hiring and training became much stricter. This was way back in 1977.
@guiller2371
@guiller2371 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they put in this video as if religious institutions don't care for the kids; nothing further from the true.
@annebrown5754
@annebrown5754 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that they were vigilant in this case. Sadly, all too often, there is so much optimism and faith that everything is “in God’s hands” that prayer and counseling relied upon when dealing with predatory and violent people. If someone is being victimized it’s not enough to just assign an accountability partner.
@SailingSeignior
@SailingSeignior 2 жыл бұрын
@@guiller2371 Eh, depends on the religious institution. Keeping kids in harm's way would certainly fit my definition of not caring for the kids. Don't even get me started on the the Roman Catholic Church or other Christian denominations either. Many of them are pedo apologists and acting as if they don't make up a large percentage of Christianity is false and disgusting.
@ashleyulysse5908
@ashleyulysse5908 2 жыл бұрын
@@guiller2371 i dont think there saying ALL that would be a pretty ridiculous accusation, but its clear places like this in the US have had issues and its okay bringing stuff like this to attention
@julietorres7298
@julietorres7298 2 жыл бұрын
Satan prounces around like an angel of light. He wants to distort the truth and the light. Jesus has never distorted anything. He is the truth and the life. Evil happens when people go AGAINST what God has said to do.
@allisoneuph1
@allisoneuph1 2 жыл бұрын
This camp was hellacious. I thought all the rules were normal and dealt with shame. I had asked why the guys could run around in swim trunks but we had to be covered head to toe. I was shamed for my sexual assault and told it was my fault. You aren’t alone
@allisoneuph1
@allisoneuph1 2 жыл бұрын
It was all a sham
@allisoneuph1
@allisoneuph1 2 жыл бұрын
So much purity culture and indoctrinated
@stephaniecaley
@stephaniecaley 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when the news came out in 2010 and some of the boys on the Branson High School basketball team were victims of Newman. Kids in the stands of an opposing team wore home made tshirts with hot tubs on it and Kanakuk logos. Literally one of the worst feelings I’ve ever felt seeing the boys on the court seeing the other schools shirts and chants, absolutely heartbreaking.
@INFJ2
@INFJ2 2 жыл бұрын
Heartless people doing that. Absolutely reckless and bullying in a higher form!
@starsparklemonkey3390
@starsparklemonkey3390 2 жыл бұрын
What school was that? It deserves to be exposed. How did the adults allow that.
@stephaniecaley
@stephaniecaley 2 жыл бұрын
you know it’s been so long I can’t remember the other school, I’m going to dig and figure it out. I know others in my class would remember.
@stephaniecaley
@stephaniecaley 2 жыл бұрын
@@starsparklemonkey3390 also AGREE HOW DID THE ADULTS NOT STEP IN BEFORE
@ameliar6374
@ameliar6374 2 жыл бұрын
Thats so wicked oh my goodness
@bridget5180
@bridget5180 2 жыл бұрын
This is so disgusting and my heart goes out to the victims. That excuse that the abuse was a drop in the bucket of good is SICK!!!
@fredricksmith-something.2125
@fredricksmith-something.2125 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously? People actually sit in a " church " and watch a man prance around with a CROSS on his shoulders? The mockery and self righteousness. That alone should send up red flags.
@Theblessedlifewithlala
@Theblessedlifewithlala 2 жыл бұрын
Prime example of the blind leading the blind
@prof_kaos9341
@prof_kaos9341 2 жыл бұрын
Every year at Easter some churches put on crucifixions actually nailing believers to crosses. In one when putting the cross upright the jolt makes the nails pull thru the hands and the believer falls off
@sireliot2149
@sireliot2149 2 жыл бұрын
I've sat through a lot of church and plenty of rough christmas plays and yeah that was weird.
@FactStorm
@FactStorm 2 жыл бұрын
What do you expect from deluded and life-long indoctrinated religious people? They are LITERALLY cult members, and there are billions of them.
@MsDemonism
@MsDemonism 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my feelings with that scene.
@tiffanylarose9120
@tiffanylarose9120 2 жыл бұрын
As a member of the community with close contact with Pete Newman; as he not only was involved in Kanakuk but Youth Life… and knowing so many of the victims because they were friends… I’m so glad this is being brought to light !
@larsland
@larsland Жыл бұрын
He got close to my cousin at YL in Dallas but luckily he wasn’t a victim, or at least that’s what he said. I was very religious growing up but there was something about youth life that really bothered me. It felt like a lot of people being very wild but under the surface (I was 14 and super naive so everything freaked me out). I remember there being a permissive attitude toward alcohol and drinking, being sure to caveat that Jesus made wine and it’s okay if it’s legal. It just seemed weird to be saying it to a room of teens in an affluent area where it’s common to party like that.
@Ava-km7tl
@Ava-km7tl 2 жыл бұрын
This gentleman is so brave for speaking out about what happened to him. So few men speak out when they are victims of sexual abuse/assault, domestic abuse, or child sex abuse, because of our society’s unfair expectations of men. It isn’t weak to speak out about your abuse. It’s extremely brave and courageous, and can help protect more children. I hope he’s doing well
@WeWander2
@WeWander2 2 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I quit going to church was when I realized that many were sinners and we're going to continue to be, but the church life gave them good cover.
@EcoJulie-vx6rx
@EcoJulie-vx6rx 2 жыл бұрын
This!!!!!! 👌🏻
@Ethan-fj7kt
@Ethan-fj7kt 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the problem with most churches. You have to seek Christ on your own and build a relationship with him. These Christians that do this disgusting will full sin aren’t real Christians.
@quantumjourney1
@quantumjourney1 2 жыл бұрын
That's the original point in churches in the first place, well that and controlling the community's behavior
@MatthewMaughan
@MatthewMaughan 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not religious myself, but my aunt once told me “Church is for sinners”. I thought that was a cool perspective..
@Ethan-fj7kt
@Ethan-fj7kt 2 жыл бұрын
@@MatthewMaughan yea it’s for sinners that want to stop sinning Jesus said that the sick need a doctor (basically referring to sinners needing a saviour) so after u get healed he wants you to be holy.
@hisokamorow8388
@hisokamorow8388 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll never understand the sexual attraction some adults have towards young boys, sick AF 🤮.
@kentstallard6512
@kentstallard6512 2 жыл бұрын
Many if not most were abused and perpetuate it. Not an excuse, of course.
@boomslang529
@boomslang529 2 жыл бұрын
I went to Kanakuk (male)/Kanakomo (female) for 5 years between the ages of 8 & 13 (skipped a summer) for the month long session each time, and it was always amazing. This video deeply saddens me and hurts my heart. One thing I hate about getting older (in my mid 40s) is the absolute shattering of all the illusions of human decency I held true for so long. People can be absolutely disgusting and disgraceful. I will remember my time at Kanakomo fondly. I loved my summers spent there; however, now those memories will be tainted by this new knowledge. Heartbreaking! Release the victims from their nda's. It's the right thing to do
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant 2 жыл бұрын
Theres so many Problems with Religion - please dont stop here. Watch 'Belief It Or Not' and 'Prophet of Zod' and many more Atheist-Channel.
@ih8utbe
@ih8utbe 6 ай бұрын
​@@loturzelrestaurantthat camp needs shut down.
@ally939
@ally939 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this, Vice. I went there as a kid, and I feel like I’ve been going mad seeing the world pretend like this didn’t happen. The camp just got to go on like nothing happened and keep their reputation. But I was there, I know it happened. We can’t let them go on like they didn’t allow this to happen. This horrible place needs to be shut down.
@allisoneuph1
@allisoneuph1 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@colleengetz3991
@colleengetz3991 2 жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏🏼
@WifeBoris-hk3hz
@WifeBoris-hk3hz 9 ай бұрын
Christians in government protect Christian pedophiles. No jail, no criminal charges. No penalty. Totally protected.
@PirrePirre
@PirrePirre 2 жыл бұрын
How can you force a child sign a NDA? That's crazy! I would argue that becuse of he/she was so young the NDA is not applicable
@Humble-iq5ue
@Humble-iq5ue 2 жыл бұрын
Right. Because they are not legal adults. Children can't legally sign into contracts etc.
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
Most victims didn’t press charges until they were adults. Grooming is real and it can take a long time to process what happened.
@beccab4112
@beccab4112 2 жыл бұрын
Although the settlements occurred when the victims were no longer minors, I don’t think it’s ever ethical to claim that the sexual abuse they suffered *as a minor* cannot be discussed because it may disparage Kanakuk.
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
@@beccab4112 one thousand percent. NDAs shouldn’t exist when it comes to sexual abuse
@fvw1187
@fvw1187 2 жыл бұрын
Most NDAs are not enforceable. A lot of people don’t know that. There’s very little case history but my brother who is an attorney says by and large they are a scam and mostly just intimidate rather than actually hold power.
@mael2039
@mael2039 Жыл бұрын
imagine your child was sexually abused, and you have to pay 40 thousand dollars just to defend yourself from the organisation where it happened
@Sarah-ty5ev
@Sarah-ty5ev 2 жыл бұрын
Ashton is really brave for speaking up. I’m sure his story will help so many.
@rlkyle
@rlkyle 2 жыл бұрын
as someone who went to this camp for three summers i can fully say it’s a fucking cult. the homophobia, racism, and sexism i encountered was astronomical. lindsay rother (the k-west women’s director) gaslit me after i came out to my councilor, and i was encouraged to not tell anyone. crying in a bunk because you think you are going to hell while the rest of your cabin painted their nails is not something an 11 year old should go through. i know what i went through is so minute to what so many other people experienced but i think we could all agree that kanakuk needs to be permanently closed.
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry you went through this. Kancel Kanakult
@kateriley8611
@kateriley8611 2 жыл бұрын
I went here too in 2016 and was excluded by my counselors because I was a girl and had a pixie cut. They also actively preached homophobia and sexism to us at K-7
@larsland
@larsland Жыл бұрын
I was totally brainwashed after going there for 11 fucking years. I wore my stupid kanakuk cross necklace every year and I felt I was being good and right. And it took me years to realize I fucking hated myself. I’m so sorry you were treated that way. And I’m sorry for being a kamper painting their nails. I would change it if I could.
@clovis-
@clovis- 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a survivor too. I have notes around that say positive affirmations, "you are strong, you are beautiful, you are more than what you've survived." Keep em on stickies onmy phone. In the past I had a lot of self hate, I've made a lot of self destructive decisions. It's so hard to reach a point of any semblance of healing. To anyone reading this, read whats in my quotes out to yourself, even if you dont believe it. This can never define you, because you are strong.
@smalls1990
@smalls1990 2 жыл бұрын
💕✊🏻
@ark198989
@ark198989 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry. I hope you don’t give up on JESUS. People are evil. They will reap what they sow. Stay strong. 🙏🌹😢😢😢 I’m sorry. JESUS LOVES YOU, BEAUTIFUL!!! 🦋🦋🦋🌹🌻🦋🌹 143!
@IKEMENOsakaman
@IKEMENOsakaman 2 жыл бұрын
When religion comes in, it's hard to speak out... :'(
@3lfruler
@3lfruler 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to speak out in general. Many reasons, most of the time shame.
@mrike5651
@mrike5651 2 жыл бұрын
Oh tell me about the catholic church & why so many ppl love the pope.
@lifechange3532
@lifechange3532 2 жыл бұрын
@Yummy Spaghetti Noodles are we tho ppl still starving ppl still sick smd.
@theagent7514
@theagent7514 2 жыл бұрын
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@c.carter3654
@c.carter3654 2 жыл бұрын
That makes no sense.
@bicenulge765
@bicenulge765 2 жыл бұрын
That place is clearly crawling with monsters, from the CEO all the way down. The fact that they covered for him & even lied knowing they were putting kids at risk shows that they are ok with the abuse & feel there isnt anything wrong with it.
@hidbee
@hidbee 2 жыл бұрын
My abuser is also a pastor. This just breaks my heart.
@nikicarrie4071
@nikicarrie4071 2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@christinecanty5409
@christinecanty5409 2 жыл бұрын
Tell ppl.
@ark198989
@ark198989 Жыл бұрын
😢 I’m sorry. Please don’t turn from JESUS. People come as wolves in sheep clothing to make CHRIST or the Church look bad. Hold on to your relationship with JESUS! 🌹🙏 😢
@weirdvlogs4200
@weirdvlogs4200 2 жыл бұрын
The worst part about this, is that question. "Where was God when this happen to me?"
@aaACEa
@aaACEa 2 жыл бұрын
Where was God when Jesus Christ went through the agonising pains and crucifixion? God is not a man. God is divine and Almighty. Don't let evil people in the name of religions stager your belief.
@christopherwilliams7905
@christopherwilliams7905 2 жыл бұрын
Free will is the price that has to be paid to have true love. I don't understand everything but God loves you!
@Mcowling
@Mcowling 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaACEa so we're going to blame Satan for this one?
@aaACEa
@aaACEa 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mcowling You're looking for a blame factor...that's your course. I am not responsible for your belief. It is personal.
@dukes1993724
@dukes1993724 2 жыл бұрын
Not there because he doesn’t exist
@shastastorm9319
@shastastorm9319 2 жыл бұрын
I went to a summer camp where I live and had life saving medication withheld for no reason whatsoever.The amount of neglect I felt was horrific, I still remember the panic of not having my medication when I needed it. I’ve gone years thinking no one else has gone through trauma/neglect or abuse at summer camp, everyone always had such amazing experiences and talked fondly of their time.I felt like it was just me being a sensitive little girl. Finding this video in a way is healing. Im sorry for anyone who felt or was unsafe in an environment made to feel safe.
@thevinyltruffle
@thevinyltruffle 2 жыл бұрын
This guy wasn’t even a boss. I understand how difficult it is when the offender is like the owner or ceo or something but this… They could’ve just fired this guy immediately. There was no reason not to. That’s how much they value the children at their camp. They don’t even consider this a problem.
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@markfelt5650
@markfelt5650 2 жыл бұрын
They valued their PR image over the well being of future children. It wasn't worth the public exposure. Religious Businesses are some of the worst institutions in the world.
@jadriantomlinson1274
@jadriantomlinson1274 2 жыл бұрын
He was a “boss” of sorts, so you are incorrect. He and his wife were unfortunately a beloved director of the youngest kids kamp. And this was drug on for far too long because of it.
@julietorres7298
@julietorres7298 2 жыл бұрын
Satan prounces around like an angel of light. He wants to distort the truth and the light. Jesus has never distorted anything. He is the truth and the life. Evil happens when people go AGAINST what God has said to do.
@amandahunter6722
@amandahunter6722 2 жыл бұрын
@@markfelt5650 and the wealthiest.
@dramonmaster222
@dramonmaster222 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that this camp is still in action is deeply disturbing.
@divergence_tiffanyramos4337
@divergence_tiffanyramos4337 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing like victimizing the victim over and over again. It's absolutely deplorable that the camp it's staff and legal counsel swept all instances of child abuse under the rug several times and required non-disclosure contracts. At the end of the day all of this comes down to money. The camp hides all instances of abuse so they can continue to profit. I guess they were absent from bible study the day greed was studied. I can't imagine the pain the victims and Ashton felt when dealing with all the variations of what they could and couldn't share. It's infuriating to say the least.
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
Very well said. Thank you.
@FloppityFlopFlop777
@FloppityFlopFlop777 2 жыл бұрын
In all honesty, I think it's about a lot more than money. Birds of a feather flock together. Monsters protect monsters. Rapists sympathize with rapists and defend them. Normal people don't. Anyone involved in these types of cover-ups is a seriously perverted, depraved creature. Including the females. Remember Ghislaine Maxwell. I don't know what happened to such freakish women or how they got that way, but they are also deviants of some kind. And the fact that Joe Whites and Pete Newmans are rampant in SO freaking many different churches and religions...it says something. About the corruption of the flock, as well as the leadership. If they were really following God, they would never fall for such glaringly unholy leaders and their cultic BS. No, they're following a very, very different spirit. And they'll share his fate hereafter.
@ELWest1000
@ELWest1000 Жыл бұрын
I went to this camp. I begged to go and my parents sent me for one session. Guess what? One of the leaders groped me. This was in the 1980s; it's been going on for YEARS. This camp should be shut down.
@davidlancaster6941
@davidlancaster6941 2 жыл бұрын
This is totally appalling. Not only is White out of touch he seems complicit. I hope the children and families get healing and compensation. Incredibly negligent and duplicit actions by this "kamp". Hope they are forced to close. Thanks for bringing us this information. Lvya
@DonnaDoveWinters
@DonnaDoveWinters 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, his complicity makes me think he is probably guilty too. Anyone with any moral compass would have fried the guy immediately.
@davidlancaster6941
@davidlancaster6941 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonnaDoveWinters totally. Thanks for responding.
@stephaniecaley
@stephaniecaley 2 жыл бұрын
This is my hometown and I’m so proud of those who’ve spoken out about abuse and lies done in the name of “Christianity”.
@no_peace
@no_peace 2 жыл бұрын
They're so brave
@FactStorm
@FactStorm 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you're from Missouri XD
@stephaniecaley
@stephaniecaley 2 жыл бұрын
@@FactStorm lmao same sometimes
@FactStorm
@FactStorm 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephaniecaley I'm from Illinois, it's only slightly better. The midwest as a whole is full of religious nutjobs who are too indoctrinated to function. Pitiful..
@adanyashadi3809
@adanyashadi3809 2 жыл бұрын
Every single leader was complicit in the abuse and should be held criminally liable. My heart is so grieved for the victims and thier experience of people who grossly misuse the tremendous power and responsibility entrusted to them. What's worse, to abuse at all, and the most vulnerable at that, in the name of God, is just utterly sickening.
@seebass7
@seebass7 2 жыл бұрын
"sorry about the molestation, here's a fruit basket"
@pollyannaprinciple5860
@pollyannaprinciple5860 2 жыл бұрын
"Hot tub bible studies." That right there should have been a red flag for everyone.
@bridgetcafarella6017
@bridgetcafarella6017 2 жыл бұрын
If his bosses let him get away with this S.A. it makes you wonder what type of people themselves are maybe they also engage in this type of behavior.I am glad this pervert was finally put in jail.I hope all the victims have been able to heal.
@Hannahluvs2row
@Hannahluvs2row 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine sending your kids to this camp knowing the history of it
@empressionshouse
@empressionshouse 2 жыл бұрын
Only pedophile parents do that
@Bestsportseditz
@Bestsportseditz 2 жыл бұрын
I still go and am leaving tomorrow
@jes7058
@jes7058 2 жыл бұрын
When you google the camp, the first thing that pops up pretty much is the abuse from the staff. I hope this video helps shut this place down or helps some kids out.
@Bestsportseditz
@Bestsportseditz 2 жыл бұрын
I still go to this camp I am leaving tomorrow and they have a ton of precautions and it’s one of my highlights of summer
@JP-og9qg
@JP-og9qg 2 жыл бұрын
Immature and poor judgement?!? Are you actually serious?? It’s predatory and evil…. Pure evil!!!!
@phoenixman8569
@phoenixman8569 2 жыл бұрын
Canadian tribal natives, more commonly known as "first nations" have been telling their stories for many years for the abuse from the catholic priests and nuns as far back as the 19th century in the residential school system, of which to this day they are still fighting for justice, not to mention the very recent discovery of unmarked graves of native children found on these now abandoned residential school grounds who were most likely beaten to death decades ago. and right now some native leaders are trying to set up an audience with the pope to ask for an apology for the abuse to them, which for years now they have been referring to as Cultural genocide.........
@smokeywilly4364
@smokeywilly4364 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this camp being a huge deal when I was younger and being reminded every summer how far I was from being able to afford something like this. I guess it was for the best, never thought being poor would benefit me.
@bearsbearsbears
@bearsbearsbears 2 жыл бұрын
Hope all the victims that want to be heard can find their voice and the courage to come out and speak their truth. These church leaders should serve jail time for allowing the monster to continue abusing children year after year.
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! 👏👏
@rashadhouston
@rashadhouston 2 жыл бұрын
We have. Nobody listens.
@skygun5013
@skygun5013 2 жыл бұрын
Stop cancel culture. These leaders are people too and should get help.
@Alwayslaughwhenyoucan
@Alwayslaughwhenyoucan 2 жыл бұрын
@@skygun5013 It isn't cancel culture to want justice for the victims of paedophiles. They will continue to abuse children as long as they can get away with it.
@skygun5013
@skygun5013 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alwayslaughwhenyoucan It is cancel culture. And no one's getting away with anything. Justice and cancel culture go hand and hand
@mislavkukina2026
@mislavkukina2026 Жыл бұрын
Why isnt death sentence still a thing?
@OllieX123
@OllieX123 2 жыл бұрын
That response from the camp that the NDA’s were for the victims is horrendous. It shows the camp has not really learnt and progressed from these abuses as well as their victim blaming culture.
@k__t__140
@k__t__140 2 жыл бұрын
I went to this camp for 12 different summers growing up, me and my sister have a picture with Pete Newman, I remember him speaking and how much of a positive influence he has had on people, I was never abused thankfully, I was so crushed to hear what Pete did when he got arrested years ago, and how poorly kanakuk handled all of this. This video was so hard to watch for me but I’m glad I did. Thoughts and prayers for all victims
@jeanniesherman3591
@jeanniesherman3591 2 жыл бұрын
That FILTHY PIG, I STRONGLY FEEL MY YOUNGER BROTHER WAS BEING MOLESTED AT HANNA BOYS CENTER, IN SONOMA, CALIF.
@JessicaScottFitzpatrick
@JessicaScottFitzpatrick Жыл бұрын
I grew up going to Kanakuk, during the time period this was happening at Kanakuk. I will not send my children to Kanakuk for any reason. My heart hurts for the victims. They deserve to speak out.
@julianacromey7151
@julianacromey7151 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me sick. I have a 13 year old son... I would seriously need God to hold me back from a person who would do that... nope, no way!!!
@yami4456
@yami4456 2 жыл бұрын
God says “it is better to tie a milestone around your neck than to hurt my little ones” the punishment waiting for these men on the other side is horrific beyond measure and rightfully so
@Elvira-jb1qj
@Elvira-jb1qj 2 жыл бұрын
kanakuk left me with so much trauma
@juliedavis9399
@juliedavis9399 2 жыл бұрын
I know that it's alot to ask for but can't everyone just stop and protect our babies. If you see something or hear something always go with PROTECTING THE CHILD!!
@emmalee3580
@emmalee3580 2 жыл бұрын
The end of the video was like a stake to the heart. It’s a grim realization, how heavy this is on all those victims. Then, to add insult to injury, attempt to gaslight them and suggest being quiet might be to their benefit? The people who let this happen are cruel, and I wouldn’t want them running any kind of camp my kids were involved in. I need to know my kids safety is primary over everything else in that place, and if someone knows of predatory inclinations in ANYONE they are removed and dealt with according to the law. How is it these men are so above the law they dont go to jail, and even continue working ?! Its disgusting, truly.
@NixMugler
@NixMugler 2 жыл бұрын
Anything with that many K's is for sure gonna be an issue
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
Oh they’re racist af too
@doeeyes2
@doeeyes2 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone said it
@Manish_Kumar_Singh
@Manish_Kumar_Singh 2 жыл бұрын
I bet Newman has some dirt on Joe White
@noorrougelewis6704
@noorrougelewis6704 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever something like this happens, it's obviously a heinous and atrocious act. But when the rest of the staff and people in the organization try to deny it, or play it off like it's no big deal, it just makes it so much worse. Just own up to it.
@thepumpkinman6092
@thepumpkinman6092 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I don't go to church anymore
@jollygoodgordon5580
@jollygoodgordon5580 2 жыл бұрын
Nonsense. This is what Jesus Christ, the one who Christians, true Christians follow said: This what Jesus think about people who abuse children Matthew 18:6-7 6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!” Children are precious and should always be protected and guided by the adults who they trust. ‼️🤍 No person who abuses children is a Christian‼️‼️
@sdneytaco2226
@sdneytaco2226 2 жыл бұрын
so many evil people in the church.
@benjaminaboagye9846
@benjaminaboagye9846 2 жыл бұрын
It's not about the church, it's about evil people who happen to be in the church. You'd meet this same people anywhere. Would you stop going to work or school or any other important place if you met these kind of people
@springtimung5567
@springtimung5567 2 жыл бұрын
@@jollygoodgordon5580 dude stop spamming
@mrike5651
@mrike5651 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even trust the pope and his group of false worship.
@patrickphilip777
@patrickphilip777 Жыл бұрын
To do such evil in the name of God is truly an atrocity
@donnieraveling188
@donnieraveling188 2 жыл бұрын
I was a victim of childhood sexual abuse not by this or any church group. But, I have known a few victims of church groups and the shame associated with the sexual abuse can be HUGE. If you hear a person tell of their experience be a friend to them. These parents are good to stand up and give voice to the voiceless
@brandonkoster2192
@brandonkoster2192 2 жыл бұрын
During my first summer as a K-Kountry kamper (2002 or 2003), Pete gave a very emotional sermon of some sort (wearing some doctor scrubs I think, for some reason) then every kid on the way out of the gym was emotionally / religiously coerced into hugging him on the way out of the gym before we went back to our cabins. Hundreds of kids lined up. Does anyone else remember this?
@larsland
@larsland Жыл бұрын
He did this in 1996-99 when I was at K-Kountry. I completely forgot until I saw your comment. I’m pretty sure I have photos with him buried somewhere in my mom’s albums.
@brandonkoster2192
@brandonkoster2192 Жыл бұрын
@@larsland It's crazy how we don't even remember some of the most weird stuff until someone else mentions it. We were just little kids, we didn't know what was weird.
@larsland
@larsland Жыл бұрын
@@brandonkoster2192 right? A lot of things are clicking into place.
@tracyallen7638
@tracyallen7638 3 ай бұрын
I was a discipleship leader of college women who served in each of the camps. One of the concerns I had was the cult like behavior but also I did know Pete and Joe and I did have some concerns about the way the camp dead things. And as a person of color, when you see the letter K after each of the camps letters you're starting to wonder is there some white supremacy there as well.
@centrovorsial2871
@centrovorsial2871 2 жыл бұрын
Im from the heart of missouri. I’m telling you there are HORRORS going on there. Things you can’t even imagine. I have literally been an alcoholic for the past couple years because of it lowkey. I grew up orthodox presbatyrian. My grandmother is known across the entire state for her teachings, to the point where I was recognized by people I don’t even know just because we are related to her. Nobody knew what was going on behind closed doors. They still don’t. Or they don’t care.
@rebeccaoprea9917
@rebeccaoprea9917 2 жыл бұрын
They should all be arrested for being accomplices to the crime . The bystander effects is real .
@lavenderxolemon
@lavenderxolemon Жыл бұрын
I went to this camp 2 years in early teenage years… it was honestly traumatizing for me for many reasons but to know THIS was happening there at the same time I was there makes me SICK. a lot of the boys there acted strange & (besides just teenage awkwardness of course) it makes a lot of sense. this place needs to be shut down. I had a very bad feeling around Joe White too, ever since I was 13 years old.
@cocoxtina8366
@cocoxtina8366 2 жыл бұрын
This is why you never leave your children with other people you don't even know or at those places like the camps or boarding schools! The summer camp is complicit in these crimes for not doing anything! That lady that also witnessed a boy being sexually abused should've stopped that abuser like getting a rope to his neck or using any other objects to defend that child! For them just to look the other way & not use self defense is beyond disgusting! 🤢🤮
@rebeccabarrand5132
@rebeccabarrand5132 2 жыл бұрын
She was a young girl when she saw it happen.
@Bestsportseditz
@Bestsportseditz 2 жыл бұрын
This stuff happened in the 90s and early 2000s
@unlistedandtwisted
@unlistedandtwisted Жыл бұрын
This is disgusting on so many levels.
@Anonymous_________
@Anonymous_________ 2 жыл бұрын
Don't go to Dunklin Memorial Christian Camp in Stuart FL if this scares you.
@kylies1958
@kylies1958 2 жыл бұрын
I worked at a camp last summer and one of my coworkers sexually assaulted me and it is a hard thing to speak up about. I’ve written the email a few times but deleted it out of fear that my former employer would scrutinize me. Close to a year later and I still haven’t told the owners but I did tell some directors.
@Pottawattamie
@Pottawattamie 2 жыл бұрын
REPORT this now to law enforcement this was not your fault.
@barbarah2773
@barbarah2773 Жыл бұрын
​@@Pottawattamie Tell someone before that monster does it to someone else.
@JJPurp
@JJPurp 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely horrifying…
@Naz.o444
@Naz.o444 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people will say it has nothing to do with being Christian or catholic but it does. People being able to speak about it is the only way things start changing.
@jollygoodgordon5580
@jollygoodgordon5580 2 жыл бұрын
Nonsense. This is what Jesus Christ, the one who Christians, true Christians follow said: This what Jesus think about people who abuse children Matthew 18:6-7 6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!” Children are precious and should always be protected and guided by the adults who they trust. ‼️🤍 No person who abuses children is a Christian‼️‼️
@jollygoodgordon5580
@jollygoodgordon5580 2 жыл бұрын
These people are not Christians. Nowhere in the bible does Jesus condone any type of child abuse. In fact he stands against it
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely right.
@Naz.o444
@Naz.o444 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelcitystudio 😳 good point
@dustingutierrez2401
@dustingutierrez2401 2 жыл бұрын
@@capturedflame oof
@loveinthematrix
@loveinthematrix Жыл бұрын
What a sweet soul that boy is. Wishing him the absolute best
@musickfreak
@musickfreak 2 жыл бұрын
Branson does a REALLY good job of sweeping stuff like this under the rug. Anything that could stain the town's reputation as a family friendly vacation destination gets quieted. But this is an extremely religious area full of homeless people, people living in extended-stay motels, lots and lots of meth, property crimes, and ignorant hypocrites. I'm not saying it's a bad place overall, but it's not the shining gem people believe it to be.
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@leahwood4388
@leahwood4388 2 жыл бұрын
The white family has a reputation in Branson its not a good one
@jareddavidmanifold313
@jareddavidmanifold313 Жыл бұрын
Branson Misery.
@haverscutie
@haverscutie Жыл бұрын
Any town In the US that thrives on tourist dollars does the same - no place is perfect -
@twinkle492
@twinkle492 2 жыл бұрын
Calling yourself a Christian doesn’t make you a Christian neither does slapping Christian on your camp name. I pray for these men’s healings because that trauma effects way more down the line. As someone speaking from a place of healing from similar abuse, God does love you and the unfortunate events that happened to you were not your fault or His. Understand there’s both good and evil in this world and it’s important to have your eyes opened to identify that evil early and nip it in the bud. Take time to get to know God for yourself outside of the Bible thumping; Jesus is the only way to Him but the gospel is to be received, not forced. 🤍 God bless
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant 2 жыл бұрын
Religion needs way more calling-out. So let’s support a lot of atheist-channel, who constantly try to help truth and facts and always try to dissect Religion.
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant 2 жыл бұрын
@@emanuelrrasi327 Ok, but what about the BLATANT stupidity of the claim ‚It aint Religion, it’s just the Churches!!’? I mean, you must see the point in that claim that is contradictary as f-ck?
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 2 жыл бұрын
@@emanuelrrasi327 Do you sometimes read your comment before posting it??
@Creepystalker102
@Creepystalker102 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think Christians cannot sin? Go look up the No True Scotsman fallacy.
@goodatgame5224
@goodatgame5224 Жыл бұрын
@@nenmaster5218 🤓 hes right
@isabellemyzer1807
@isabellemyzer1807 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Overland Park and attended Holy Spirit catholic school. From 2011-2012 I was emotionally abused by the principal, Michele Watson and the Nun, Sister Petra. I had undiagnosed Adhd and would get overwhelmed by complex directions and info. My working memory would time out and I'd have to try to remember what I heard and then that would time out. I'd get bored, restless, frustrated, and angry and drew to ease the anxiety. But when I couldn't stop drawing, they called the principal, Mrs. Watson. She would put her face up to mine and scream, "ISABELLE MYZER! LOOK AT ME. DON'T YOU EVER DO THAT AGAIN! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?!" and then she'd smirk when she made me cry and sometimes tried to make me mad in front of people, so I'd look bad. One day after I was done drawing, and actually o task, she showed up an hour later and put her mouth up to my ear and said, "I know what you did..." She also took my picture when I was mad just to harrase me and when I confronted her and asked why she did it, she said, "because I'm the principal and I'm allowed." she pretended to be nice one day. I was talking about butterflies with her, and she was being so friendly. But later that week she banned me from a field trip because she thought I'd look for caterpillars and she made my teacher be the one to tell my mom WITHOUT mentioning it was her decision. She used and bullied at least a quarter of the people at the school whether it be students or teachers. She and sister petra were cruel to someone I was very close with as well. Mrs. Watson spread rumors about the resource teacher and turned all the teachers against her. Sister petra would block her doorway so she couldn't go to lunch and verbally abuse her. As for what sister Petra did to me, it almost got physical. I was arguing over taking a longer drink break with my para and Sister Petra came charging up to me and screamed, "YOU'RE SO FULL OF HATE!" a friendly teacher thankfully came to my aid and said, "Come on isabelle, this doesn't look like a good situation." Sister Petra has physically abused students, so I kknow she would have hurt me. During lunch one day, she had called jr.high students for seconds and thirds and said, "No running" and when they didn't listen, she screamed, "I SAID NO RUNNING!" and then they continued to run and she screamed, "DON'T YOU DARE RUN OR I'M GONNA TRIP YOU!" and lunged forward, tripping two 7th graders. my friend's mom went to the priest about the abuse, and he did nothing. The archbishop never listened either. Plenty of teachers, community members, parents and students minimized everything that happened and tried to side with her or cover for her. Almost no one stood up to them due to blackmail and intimidation. Sister Petra got away with it. She had a stroke a few years ago and got moved to a convent for sick nuns. Mrs. Watson got fired last year because the new Priest was concerned about the low enrollment, which had been a problem for a while. People still blame me, minimize what happened and some don't believe me. It's stupid how blind people choose to be. You want to be blind, and then it happens to you and then you just can't be.
@sargoon1017
@sargoon1017 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully you’re doing better. What an awful experience.
@chaynJ
@chaynJ 2 жыл бұрын
Im from India. And i went to a summer camp here and the main spiritual preacher tried to sexually abuse me. The reason behind all this,i feel is the rule that said: atleast one teacher must be assigned to 4 kids in a room. And no one was allowed to bring the mobile phone. I pushed him over that night and went outside and no one was even taking any surveillance over there to notice me. Camp was miles away from home so i thot of just waiting. I didnt sleep the entire night. And called parents and they picked me up next early morning. But still, my regret to this day is the other 3 children i left him with. This is a camp by Chinmaya vidyalaya, happend wen i was at 10th grade. And the main guy had no remorse or surprise wen i told him the next morning. Peace 👍
@loriepaix6391
@loriepaix6391 2 жыл бұрын
The first year I went to summer camp, I was 10 and there were boys and girls camping in tents. This was a United Methodist camp. Some of us saw our counselor in his tent with a boy and removing the boy's pants. Another boy ran approx. 1/4 mile to the main building and alerted someone. The counselor was removed and none of us were spoken to concerning the event. Our parents were not contacted. Camp continued on and it was a miserable experience. Another male counselor had us dig dirt to build an altar and got angry when we weren't working fast enough. He yelled at us and I was frightened. Years later, I chose to attend a Ranch Camp which was not affiliated with any church. The girls were housed in one area and the boys in another. We were not permitted to socialize alone and had same-sex counselors. It wasn't until then that I realized how many mistakes the "Christian camps" I had always attended made regarding our safety and security.
@kendrahansen1175
@kendrahansen1175 4 күн бұрын
Yes, bible thumpers are the biggest hypocrites. It's a clear sign they are hiding something.
@debramedina9347
@debramedina9347 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for revealing this camp. The world needs to know and kids need to be protected. Camp is part of a child’s life. They should be able to have fun, safe, memorable camp experiences. Growing up I have nice memories of going to camp, kids should be able to create fun memories, today. Sex offenders should not have access to kids. Long term Counseling would be helpful to victims.
@nakuro2686
@nakuro2686 2 жыл бұрын
This angers me so much! My children always wanted to attend go away camp or the scouts and I have encountered way too many reasons to say absolutely not! I am also extremely selective about who they are left alone with
@ramcharge2704
@ramcharge2704 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care who you are or how well off your family is. Do not ever send your child off with a camp counselor alone you have never met in your life. I mean what do you think is going to happen to that child/adolescent?maybe it's just because i was raised to always be weary of people. My mom was molested as a child by close people close to her. She raised us to be on the lookout even when you think you know someone. You can't protect your child of you are making choices like that. It sounds like people were so willing to hand off their children to the wolves.
@randallfoster6107
@randallfoster6107 Жыл бұрын
WE AS PPL NEED TO BACK THIS FAMILY WHEN THE GOVERNMENT WON'T HELP...GOD BLESS THIS FAMILY... YOUR SO STRONG KEEP FIGHTIN👊✊️✌️
@dontmindme.imjustafraidofe9327
@dontmindme.imjustafraidofe9327 2 жыл бұрын
Just hearing about this is enough to make me sick. I can’t imagine what the victims are going through. This is horrible!
@larsland
@larsland Жыл бұрын
I went to Kanakuk for 11 years and knew Pete. He asked my cousin on a trip but he didn’t go. He would have been allowed to, my aunt trusted Pete. We all did. And yet when this came out, there was something in me that wasn’t surprised.
@themissydeyo
@themissydeyo 2 жыл бұрын
I didnt suffer sexual abuse there, but I did suffer sexual abuse within a Christian family and the way they went about dealing with it was absolutely toxic. I am so sorry to these brave young men for what thru have experienced. What sucks here is that abuse like this doesn't just taint your relationship with your abuser, with sex, with yourself, but with God, the church, summer, camp, etc. It's horrible.
@pantyPrinceas
@pantyPrinceas Жыл бұрын
So far I'm only like 3 and a half minutes in, but let me say this ASHTON, idk if you know what you have done here sweet boy, by coming forward, but you have opened the gates for more young men to come forward... And women... But because of you, you are opening the door to de-stigmatize SA in both men and women. And historically it's been even harder for young men to come forward. I am so grateful for you, being a warrior in this fight. Coming forward and being public with your story! I admire you! Thank you for speaking up, for being a voice. For sharing your story! You are amazing.
@justicesmith6402
@justicesmith6402 2 жыл бұрын
This is just so crazy. I grew up going to this camp and I loved it, I was lucky enough to not be one of the victims. The fact that they use spirituality and God as a veil to hide whats going on and accuse victims of not being in the ‘right place spiritually’ is sickening. My hearts go out to those affected and I hope everyone responsible is weeded out and punished appropriately.
@mrs.georgeglass3997
@mrs.georgeglass3997 2 жыл бұрын
Sir you're absolutely 100% accurate in saying every single person who's still there, who never helped or intercepted in such horrific abuse! This breaks my heart, and makes me grateful for the time I spent in a state hospital on an adolescent unit after attempting suicide seriously when I was 15, but know just because of my personal experience being sexual abuse free, I know a staff member who was older then 50 had sex with another client for over 4 years. I wasn't told until returning to visit her after her release and by then he'd groomed her to deny anything I'd repeated to anyone saying I was dramatic and lying.
@troymcneal7371
@troymcneal7371 2 жыл бұрын
I went to Christian camp from 6-18. Luckily there was never any abuse but the culture was a bit toxic. I was always told to cover up especially since I was curvy. Also women had no positions of leadership, couldn’t even tell a sermon or read a verse! Christian community definitely creates a sense of victim blaming and shaming women. Things need to change
@FloppityFlopFlop777
@FloppityFlopFlop777 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, I've witnessed this kind of thing myself in many Christian venues, not just camp. And it creates a breeding ground and a cloak of cover for perverts of all stripes to slither in and work their evil, all while hiding behind a smiling mask of holiness.
@RozeLight
@RozeLight 10 ай бұрын
Disgusting. Just Disgusting of them to do such a thing
@ameadowz12
@ameadowz12 2 жыл бұрын
God speaks over and over again in the Bible that as Christians, we should defend and help the oppressed and accuse the oppressors. This camp has evil within its core, and it’s ruined many lives because of it; there’s no place in heaven for people like this. My heart and prayers cry out for healing for every victim and their families 💔
@meredithelaine4817
@meredithelaine4817 2 жыл бұрын
I am a social worker and I see sooooo many cases in the church, I really want to write a book “Where Have All the Fu*king Millstones Gone”
@dub16100
@dub16100 Жыл бұрын
The way some ‘Christians’ choose to protect each other is nothing short of disgraceful and sickening.
@BEyezonFire
@BEyezonFire 2 жыл бұрын
The people should shut this down. Whose willing to start a veto of this camp?
@chelseadygert4545
@chelseadygert4545 2 жыл бұрын
Me!!!!!
@Diamon.d
@Diamon.d 2 жыл бұрын
Ashton is so strong to tell his story. ❤️
@afterthestorm221
@afterthestorm221 2 жыл бұрын
Perpetrators of abuse are seldom who they portray, they rely heavily upon the overwhelming denial of their peers fueled by greed and ego to go about the vicious task of silencing the truth and its victims at all cost.
@murrismiller2312
@murrismiller2312 2 жыл бұрын
Sueing victims into silence IS A CRIME !!! Criminal neglect followed by harassment that destroys lives and souls is SATANIC
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