AC/DC - Phil Rudd "Back In Black" and "T.N.T" | Recreating Iconic Drum Sounds

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Without a doubt AC/DC is one of the biggest rock bands ever. On 14 of their 17 studio albums, drummer Phil Rudd shaped the sound of this band with his solid grooves and his characteristic sound. When we had the chance to visit Rudd's long time partner company Sonor in Bad Berleburg, Germany, we decided to pay tribute to his drumming and add a video about his sound to our Recreating Iconic Drum Sounds series.
Due to copyright issues we were not able to upload our full version of T.N.T.
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00:00 Intro
01:11 The Original "Back In Black"
01:31 Preparing The Kit
04:36 Back In Black - Performance
05:41 Earlier AC/DC Sound
06:35 T.N.T Drums Only Performance
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Equipment used in this video:
Drum Kit:
Sonor AQ1
Finish: Piano Black
Bass Drums: 22x17.5
Toms: 12x8; 16x15
Snare: Prolite Brass 14x5
Cymbals:
Zildjian
14" Hi-Hat: A New Beat Top (top); K Custom Dark Top (bottom)
19" K Sweet Crash
Sonor
16" Armoni Crash
18" Armoni Crash
Microphones:
Beyerdynamic
www.beyerdynamic.de/mikrofone...
Bassdrum: Outside TG D70/ Inside TG D71
Snare: Top M 201 TG/ Bottom MC 840
Toms: TG I51
Overheads: MC 740
Hi-Hat: MC 930
Room: M 130
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[@philiplauzon1743]

It’s one thing to sound like Phil but another to play with as much feel as him. Fantastic drumming and sound research 🤘😎

[@DHarri9977]

While watching some of their early concerts you realize how much of a power house he was in his younger years. I agree, their style of music was all about the raw feel and Phil was the driving force of course combined with the guitars

[@user-ii3dh8cy3m]

Phil is my favourite drummer. Such a solid, groove and powerfull sound. Number 1 for me.

[@TheEmperorOfTheWorld]

The way he hums stings me like bumblebee. Bzzzz

[@Albeit_Jordan]

Interviewer: Do you have any advice for young drummers? Dave Grohl: Listen to Back In Black

[@brandoesntsocialise]

We need some Roger Taylor now! This series has become my absolute favorite on KZbin! Keep up the great work!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

🙏

[@tobiart1617]

YESSSSS!!!!!!

[@brandoesntsocialise]

Damn guys… maybe now we need some iconic recreations of the late, great, Charlie Watts 😢 Sad day for the Watts family, the world of music, and our drum community. A lot of his work is immortalized by his steady driven rhythms! He will surely be missed.

[@ArtOfDrumming]

💯🙌🏻

[@Sca_t.]

OMG YESS!!!!!

[@MartinvonBargen]

First drummer I listened to as a kid in the early 80s and wondered what was going on with the panning. If anything's gonna bring out more haters than getting Stewart Copeland's gear 'wrong', then it's Phil Rudd. You should have trolled people and used two rides for his hi-hats ;) I still think that his floor tom sound on Shoot To Thrill is as perfect as I'll ever hear. Great vid as usual.

[@superco8393]

Phill is just amazing he plays this “simple” groove but the he does is so amazing and special. Oh and he is a pretty cool guy

[@jeffreyv8547]

I call it the Rudd Thud. Demon Fire on Power Up has really pushed my speakers, headphones and eardrums to the breaking point. It takes me back forty one years to the Lakeland Civic Center in Lakeland, Florida. I’m not a drummer but I’ve really enjoyed this time travel segment. 👍

[@lepone2317]

The "Rudd Thud..." I like that! 👍

[@davidwinthrop7077]

Following the sad passing of Charlie Watts yesterday (24th August 2021), can we have a breakdown of his kit and sound especially his unique choice of cymbals?

[@ArtOfDrumming]

💯

[@dumdumbrown4225]

@@ArtOfDrumming - looking forward to that episode 👍🏽

[@dumdumbrown4225]

@David Winthrop - truly spoken mate 😃 I actually cried …Mr Watts was a drummer’s drummer 🙏🏽 bless his sticks!!

[@davidwinthrop7077]

@@dumdumbrown4225 Totally agree with you on Charlie being a drummers drummer. Like Ringo, Stan Lynch with the Heartbreakers and other band drummers, Charlie played only what was needed for the song and made it feel great rather than thinking (of course he didn’t need one) where can I fit my double pedal in. A sad loss to the music world!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

🙌🏻

[@ErikGalan]

This is the most accurate sound and cover of this song over all KZbin

[@adamcopeland12]

thank you for taking such time and meticulous care to produce these videos. Everything about each video is top notch.

[@agmsmith4079]

You need to mention the Eventide H910 set the pitch ratio to .50, delay to 7.5ms and turn the feedback up. You send the bottom snare mic to it with a gate in front of the H910, pull the track with the H910 on it all the way down and then start to bring it up under the dry snare sound until it feels fat and thick.. You also send the snare mic to an EMT 140 style plate with a gate in front of it. Shorten the decay to around 2 seconds, roll off the top end of the plate at around 4KHz, then pull it up under the dry snare as well. Tada, you have the Mutt Lang snare sound used on AC/DC, Def Leppard, Huey Lewis, Foreigner, the Cars, etc. it is one of the most imitated drum sounds in the world. Later in the 80s mutt started using an AMS RMX16 reverb with the “non-lin” setting as the main snare reverb. Try playing around with that too instead of the plate. Remember to put a noise gate in front of it. Cheers!!!

[@ulrichprieser6698]

Tony: is that you? Lol

[@joelsaucier4342]

Alright guys...Bulls eyes...that what i'm looking for. I grow up with this album Back in Black and for me it's one of the most beautiful drum sound that i heard...thank you very much for this video and keep up the good work...it's long way to the top if you want à Rock'n Roll...🤘

[@jedfearon]

I love it. Thank you for producing this gem!

[@dbmdrums1105]

Wow! Yeah nice to see they included stuff from early ACDC too!

[@giuseppecasa3574]

beautiful video on one of my favorite songs from acdc splendid drums

[@Monsterdrumma]

Sounds super accurate, awesome job!

[@rulap6728]

Rest in peace charlie watts

[@sangdencretattoo8567]

YES ! Thanks you very much, you nailed it !

[@ManilaSoundClips]

Great job. Pefect sound!

[@VON_RHEDBEARD]

Back in back had the best snare sound, it was more thuddy Tom sounding. (Which I like)

[@kisskonrad2690]

This is the one that I suggested! Great recreation, thank you :)

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks man! 🙏

[@kovalfetterer2218]

I’m still looking forward to Scott Rockenfield’s drum sound on Queensryche’s Operation:Mindcrime album!

[@geoffdrumsct]

The best way I've figured out how to describe it is it sounds like what an action comic book would sound like if it came to life. There is no other album that has the same sound/tone/production to it.

[@josephkubes8838]

one of my absolute favorite albums, Fucking amazing Album!!

[@mitzo4526]

Sounds absolutely amazing! I love this series! My only complaint is how you haven’t done a video for rush!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Definitely on our list 👍🏻

[@mitzo4526]

@@ArtOfDrumming well now I have no complaints. Great series, keep up the good work!

[@davdmasc4507]

Bellissimo suono e bellissimo video!! ☮️🥁❤️

[@marcelloalipede1162]

Great Job!

[@michaelsaupe1356]

Spot on, mate!

[@davidshaffer4664]

Very nice job

[@maxbomo]

You rock man. Thanks

[@elliotalfieri5766]

Just Amazing💯

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks 🙏

[@stefanbecker468]

Sounds fantastic

[@MBdrummer3288]

Nailed it again! Man, you guys are very good at this. And those cymbals sound pretty darn good as well. Well done.

[@ArtOfDrumming]

🙏

[@dumdumbrown4225]

…loved it, folks - good show - my drum teacher is so much a hardcore Sonor fan that I think his wife is occasionally annoyed 😂 I sent him this video

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks. Good Idea 😆

[@Cancun771]

That Back in Black snare sound was actually created using the first Eventide Harmonizer.

[@jms78]

AMAZING!!!💪👍

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks 🙏

[@harri3020]

Let's see the 16 minute version of Let there be Rock, with a cigarette hanging out of the corner of your mouth, if you really want to impress an AC/DC fan.

[@Tobias1985]

Sorry, that I'm late, but this is so helpfull, thank you!

[@atreyukekona9614]

those cymbals are fantastic.

[@dragobotica]

use SONOR Designer kit and Phil signature snare c.o.b. and you'll get the sound without any experiment...and of course, dont forget PAISTE 2002 red!!

[@abrahamintia]

Nice🙌🏻🔥

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks 🙏

[@dbmdrums1105]

6:45 and ofcourse ...the T.N.T era drum sound 😎😎😎. Sounds a little paper like .

[@TJCombo67]

That’s a great recreation of that sound well done

[@conniethomas6853]

Not bad, not bad at all!!! 😍😍

[@StuartCardell]

That’s does sound good!

[@bluesdrum7674]

BRAVISSIMI

[@nuuttimajoinen313]

Can you make a video about drum micing and recording in general. Would be a really intresting video

[@leogolive]

The TNT sound is the perfect drum sound!

[@brandons6167]

I love Ac/Dc but have hated everything about those tinny flat sounding first 2 records. I've always loved T.N.T. live. I do like how you can hear the bass pedal squeak on those albums though. Don't know why.

[@wilberforce95]

Nice. Those crashes really sell it for me.

[@ArtOfDrumming]

👍🏻

[@seanhopkins1815]

Wish I could drum like this

[@musicisthecure6934]

AC/DC , legendary , timless

[@Beatwilder]

I would love to see an simon phillips kit episode 🙏

[@dylanlobo5873]

Awesome video love it can we have John Bonham next pls 🙏

[@leokart69]

a few problems , phil didnt use the actual kit in this music, at the time he had a 3 tom kit and two flor toms, the toms heads at the time was cotted one, and the snare was a regular 14 by 5 1/2, the cymbals are always paiste 2002, but the sound in the video was pretty close

[@martyn1107]

I remember our local music shop in Ringwood (Melbourne Australia) had an exact copy of the Back in Black kit when the album came out. It was a Sonor Signature Series 3 rack toms 12,13,14 inch and 2 floor toms 16&18 with a 5 1/2 inch brass snare. Paiste 2002 cymbals. That kit was over $10k AUD in 1981 but it sold me on Sonor and Paiste for life.

[@basileus8038]

One trick they did, is send the snare to a second channel and tuned it down slightly, to give it some umph

[@PixelFastFood]

Request: Black Sabbath (preferably first album) sound soon? Would absolutely love that.

[@nimrodescojedo1408]

Can I ask a favor of you? Can you do sweet child of mine on drum cover? I want to hear how Steve Adler get the snare sound, rack and floor toms and bass drum. I want to hear you play this one, guys! I'm excited to hear it out. 😊

[@robgen06]

I would love that kit ,how much roughly?

[@NikoFrederiko.]

What band does this kid play with? He's excellent. Is he interested in studio or tour work in the states?

[@joshclapton1606]

I'm looking forward to you guys to recreate the unique drum sound from Dave Grohl in the Queens Of The Stone Age's Songs for the Deaf Album!

[@aten55]

GREAT call. His snare sounds pissed on that album.

[@Sniperfire24]

How do you remove the drums from the master track when playing with your drum sound?

[@gustavovieira7708]

you can do that with the app moises, but I guess to have everything the app can do, you gotta pay for it

[@jakecrawford3106]

Fun fact! I know you didn’t necessarily say he did but Phil Rudd didn’t play drums on High Voltage. It was a session guy called Tony Correnti!

[@basileus8038]

Can you please do a mixing tutorial on this!!!

[@evancarriere7548]

we need alex van halen. the FULL drum kit, stacked bass drums and all

[@jameslyons1661]

👍

[@drumfanatik316]

To get that true snare sound, you have to not only tune it low and have the muffling on it, but you must also layer the snare with the kick drum over it. That’s how Mutt Lange did it to get that sound. He sampled the bass drum at a low frequency and then layered it in over the snare track. That’s why it sounds like Phil is always playing 4 on the floor! 🤣🤣🤣

[@ulrichprieser6698]

Tony Platt, the mixing engineer on Back In Black once told in an interview, they used an Eventide and changed the pitch one half tone lower and mixed that with the original signal

[@43dukedog]

Got to remember who produced Back in Black Mutt Lang

[@H.Thompson]

I wish a have a drum kit 🙃

[@futur_sunds]

Awesome video! Please consider doing Dire Straits, specifically Sultans of Swing, best drum in any song in my opinion.

[@tlkshowhst]

Please do Mel Gaynor on Simple Minds’s “Don’t You (Forget About Me)”

[@davidwinthrop7077]

One of the best snare sounds on record. Always sounded his best playing Premier drums!

[@Monsterdrumma]

@@davidwinthrop7077 Agreed and do you know what snare drum he played on that by chance?

[@davidwinthrop7077]

@@Monsterdrumma I read years ago in Rhythm magazine in an article breaking down the recording of Don’t You Forget About Me that it was a custom built by Premier copper shell, parallel action based on a 2000 model snare. Also said he used a Premier Black Shadow kit.

[@markmullen9919]

That kit sounded AMAZING!!!! His cymbals sounded incredible also!!!

[@davidwinthrop7077]

@@markmullen9919 Agree, really great recorded kit. Probably Zildjian as he was playing both Premier and Zildjian on the Live Aid concert in 1985.

[@PNW_Sportbike_Life]

Great job, aside from the snare; it’s missing that fat body that exists on the recording.

[@el_terrible_chevalier]

what about the drum sound from Marvin Gaye's Mercy Mercy Me? it got me crazy!

[@daktarioskarvannederhosen2568]

i think the phil uses 2 floor toms, and his mounted tom is deeper. btw he is not retired or dead -you speak of him in the past tense.

[@TimV93]

It's close but to get the real Back in Black snare drum sound you need to down-Tune the pitch snare with a hardware unit like Mutt lange did with an Eventide.

[@tasteapiana]

This is good but it highlights the difference in recording digital Vs. analog. On those old 2'' Studer and Otari machines you can calibrate them to where clipping isn't a harsh glitchy ordeal so that when you boost a snare in the 120-180hz range there's saturation instead of grainy annoyance, it just comes at the cost of having to do some high end ducking (which took a while to figure out). That original snare was smashed to tape on a deck that had had the gain lowered on that channel's card. There simply aren't any plugins or outboard gear that can do what those machines and real tape can, tape clips at different frequencies sloping up toward the higher frequencies (due to transients/impulses). Had you bumped that range more digitally it would have sounded obviously EQd to get that low end punch which is wrong so you didn't, I get it. Otherwise, great attempt. When you do Alex Van Halen's snare - remember this and don't do a full digital anything on him or you will fail badly. By time 1984 rolled around they were looking for ways to reduce his overall track count in order to smash his snare (and Ed's guitars) onto 2 even 3 tape tracks using the same tricks. It's not rocket science, more like stuff that gear heads do to hot rods in a garage.

[@tasteapiana]

Also, the kick is wrong. ON STAGE he had a front head but in studio that was most definitely an open shell with a large diaphragm condenser NOT a dynamic mic out front, dead center, about 6-12'' beyond the rim just to where it starts to woof. Your kick sounds anemic which is what a live engineer would have had to settle on without getting complicated with gates and having a weird looking batterless front side of the kick (ie they would've looked like a garage band). You can't just look at random pictures of his kit on stage and know what was going on with it at Compass Point. Tony Platt's job was to pull off slick little tricks he had acquired through lots of trial and error over an already, by that time, lengthy career so that Lange could just focus on the feel of each performance - and he did his job very well.

[@benjaminkip9143]

I think that on the Back in Black album Remo Muffl's are used on the batter side of the toms and perhaps also on the batter side of the bass drum. The toms are tuned quite low and loose. Since there was no Remo PS3 in 1980 I think you should have gone for Remo CS clear of Remo Pinstripe clear on the batter side of the toms and bassdrum. Other than that, nice video.

[@hamueramusic]

Sounded IDENTICAL!

[@marchdoesvlogs9823]

You should do one for Bob Bryar my fave drummer and ex of My Chemical Romance.

[@drumsonly44]

looking forward to Foo Fighters - There is Nothing Left to Lose (Taylor Hawkins)

[@pocholoangelopepperz8750]

Brad Wilk of R.A.T.M please. 🙏😊

[@noelwiebe1996]

Do Eric Carrs kit from the creatures of the night

[@drumtum81]

Can you do Lars' drum sound from the Load/Reload era?

[@jamesfrost2010]

Please do one if Roger Taylor’s sound on Another one bites the dust

[@BadRonald1]

Just a basic drum kit sound. Nothing out of the ordinary. How about Earl Palmer's kit on closing to the Filmation 1968 Batman with Robin The Boy Wonder. That snare is Amazine

[@keithmoon3190]

Do Charlie watts and Keith Moon!

[@necrodamus5481]

Surprised you went right for Back In Black. Thought you woulda went for Powerage or Highway to Hell

[@sirfragsalot7156]

finally some Phil Rudd cover done right

[@queenpurple8433]

King crimson

[@oh_poor_damaged_mepatrick1529]

Fun fact... Phil Rudd doesn't play drums on high voltage...Peter clack... Tony currenti... and John proud play on the album... Phil had joined shortly before the release

[@Albeit_Jordan]

You know whose drum sound you should do next? Jon Bermuda Schwartz of Weird Al's band... Good luck.

[@jcrh234]

Please do Alex Van Halen \m/

[@wp-fxpyrodesign]

Clive Burr!!

[@c00lhand37]

Waiting for Roger Taylor sounds 🔥🔥

[@ccdrums1290]

Paiste cymbals should’ve been featured.

[@roscoechance5155]

I just realized, I don’t think Rudd ever used a ride cymbal on any ac/dc song…ever

[@evanarview]

Can you guys please do a recreating Roger Taylor video!!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

💯👍🏻

[@mr.brownstone9943]

Phil plays different drums and 2002 Cymbals

[@drumminggouda]

awesome, but ithink the snare need some more spice, or body.

[@apersonok8426]

This is a week old. And Rick Beato has already tried. But can you try yourself at recreating Alex Van Halen’s drum sound? In particular Woman and Children First’s drum sound.

[@ArtOfDrumming]

💯

[@apersonok8426]

@@ArtOfDrumming Yes! The album has such a unique drum sound, I’m curious to see how you’ll pull it off. :)

[@AngryShredder2004]

Anyone wanting them to do Mitch Mitchell's drum sound?

[@JackInakiGago]

You can't get his sound with that. Phil uses Paiste cymbals and Evans drumheads.

[@josuegarcia879]

I'm looking for josh duns drum sound

[@ArtOfDrumming]

🥁😉