As you mentioned, this video was a very clear and concise jumping board into crypto accounting, thank you so much! I'm a CPA student in Canada and run a bookkeeping company hoping to specialize in this new strange world, the way you explain each point and their implications was easy to follow, I wish all my professors were the same way :D will definitely be checking out your other content!
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@nicksvaik3 жыл бұрын
Are you in ontario? I may need a bookkeeper for my business for next year
@nazmulhosen11322 жыл бұрын
@@nicksvaik Oversea Chartered Accountant can have a job in Canada?
@nicksvaik2 жыл бұрын
@@nazmulhosen1132 What services do you offer?
@nazmulhosen11322 жыл бұрын
Payroll, Bookkeeping.
@06kokoko2 жыл бұрын
Great video. But can you clarify how it would be inventory for a mining firm as the US GAAP definition requires inventory to be tangible personal property. (In contrast, the IFRS IFRIC seems to allow for inventory treatment per IAS 2)
@farhanahashim3423 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. This discussion really help me to understand crypto
@amolsinghal71423 жыл бұрын
Really insightful video - thank you so much. Quick question: when working on the accounting for a business that receives payments from customers in crypto (not like an investment from your Tesla example), would it still be recorded as an intangible asset on the balance sheet but instead revenue on the income statement?
@mylifeasitwere3 жыл бұрын
I would like to know this too, more of the NFT/retail space
@jctributaris57093 жыл бұрын
For IFRS its either: IAS 38 Intangible Assets under 1. Cost model (Historical Cost (-) Amortizacion and Impairments) or 2. Revaluation model (Fair Value (-) Amortization and Impairments) this applies to companies that hold Crypto but its not their core business to trade or any mining activity. Then there is IAS 2 Inventories for companies that hold cryptos for sale under the ordinary course of business and can use either 1. cost or 2. Fair Value, so we have 4 ways to account for Cryptos under IFRS. It should be interesting in the future when we see hedge accounting for crypto. (IFRS 9 Financial Instruments).
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input JC
@exhausti3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the concise video. Always good to open discussion about such topics. I have a question though (might not touch many companies). If you are a company that is a crypto exchange (let's take Binance) how would we show/recognise our own token (BNB in our case) in the Financial statements? I was thinking of Coinbase which is a listed company and therefore we would just look at their SEC filings but Coinbase doesn't have their own token.
@Deferred1232 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the rich explanation. Question: what is the triggering factor for inventory write down for a mining company that holds their coins? In other words, how often should a mining company revalue their Bitcoin inventory if they hold the coin? Thanks in advance
@cryptointegrations98543 жыл бұрын
Can you show us how to reconcile crypto transactions and how we list the crypto on the balance sheet? Do we list it based on the individual wallets or exchanges you have crypto balances on? I’m an accountant and trying to figure out how to integrate transactions in their financials
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Ok will do
@akinlereakinyiga24883 жыл бұрын
Pls we are still expecting the video
@nel64853 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill, just wondering what if Tesla opens up a subsidiary with the main purpose to speculate in these financial assets and that the subsidiary holds the Bitcoin? Could it do MTM in the company level? What about at the consolidation level? Thanks
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea but I doubt that Tesla will do that and don’t think SEC will take kindly to this type of work around
@HillierHunson3 ай бұрын
Great analysis, thank you! I have a quick question: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?
@danixolo Жыл бұрын
Hey! Please can you leave the reff document that you use to categorice the digital assets into those categories?
@marvin31952 жыл бұрын
I have a question If crypto currencies should be carried at fair value, should changes in value be recorded through the income statement or other comprehensive income?
@lemonday11152 жыл бұрын
What would be the alternative accounting method?
@evansjuma38313 жыл бұрын
Many thanks 😊 Bill, a very good content, accounting for the same in the statement of income and financial position was SUPER 👌
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Thanks evans
@jamesedland39453 жыл бұрын
Great stuff man, I’m an accounting student, will start watching more of your content
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Thanks James
@jamesedland39453 жыл бұрын
@@TheFinancialController what’s the journal entry to finally realise the gain when you eventually sell the intangible asset?
@MrGustavostuart3 жыл бұрын
@The Financial Controller , Could you please share reference of the non-authoritative guidance over the accounting treatment for mining entities? Thanks in advance!
@21stCenturyEconomy2 жыл бұрын
Question with regards to Mining income: the 2019 IRS guidelines indicate that mining should be tax as ordinary income. In order words, the moment the coins are received, they should be be considered as gross income. So I'm confused about considering them as inventory.
@TheFinancialController2 жыл бұрын
Tax treatment vs. Book often differ which creates book-to-tax differences, a regular occurrence.
@RachidRachid-df6hw3 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. I think from what I heard is that the crypto currency is coming to the CPA exam specifically FAR
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
I won’t be surprised
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
And thanks for watching
@tarastern23122 жыл бұрын
Thank you for creating this and sharing this information! Would a BTC ATM company that allows people to buy or sell their BTC at the ATM, reflect their crypto as an IA?
@accountingfinanceinfo.20623 жыл бұрын
Your Voice like a Teacher. 😊 Great sir
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks
@poodleseigien3 жыл бұрын
Bill, I've learned a lot from you! Thanks a lot!
@sleepyboi73 жыл бұрын
Great Content! This is good information. I wanted to ask with regards to the accounting treatment of digital assets in Industry. For example, we capitalise the IA at the start based on the transactional price. End of year, we unfortunately suffered an impairment loss on the digital assets (say 50K less 10K loss = 40K in books). In the next year, should the fair value of these assets be 60K, can we record a 10K unrealised profit to put the value of the digital assets back at 50K? Or the capitalised amt of these assets can only stay the same or be reduced year on year? Thank you so much!
@snoo12963 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if under ifrs (38) a company like Tesla can hold it at fair value?
@pranjalimehta36533 жыл бұрын
Hello Sir, I have a doubt there ... how will company like tesla for example report the consideration it receives from sales, as cash is not considered for reporting bitcoin and would those be transferred to intangible assets?
@Mr09ranvir3 жыл бұрын
Intangible current asset
@chafrewilcha3 жыл бұрын
Very excellent explaination - Thanks. By the way, if one buys a certain amount of BitCoins per (week), what accounts would be used to record the transactions? Credit an Equity account & Debit a Cash or Bank account? [Using QB 2010]
@jordancomfort82802 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, awesome content! I am getting some conflicting information. I have asked some individuals and they say it should be recorded as a current asset. My client is a small business owner and she received income in the form of crypto.
@SuperNinomino3 жыл бұрын
I want to choose that topic for my MSc Finance and Accounting dissertation. Do you think is a good idea ? Can you please give me an opinion about my choice , if you were my teacher ? Thanks , I love all of your videos
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Yes grt and timely topic
@NothelmoLecuyer3 ай бұрын
Great video as always! 👍 Just a small off-topic question: 😅 I have these words 🤨. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). What should I do with this? 🤷♂️
@mohamedkhaled85553 жыл бұрын
Great information with an easy explanation ✔️👋
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gretameburishvili90102 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the brilliant explanation!!
@TheFinancialController2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Greta
@abdullah01063 жыл бұрын
What about the company's that are detailing as a brokerage? They don't hold or invest in it they just buy from one person and sell it to other (on Just in time model ). Do they record it as a trading business?
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
A brokerage in theory never holds the crypto but rather help buyers settle a deal from a seller. Ownership goes from seller to buyer directly
@abdelhadiredouane49733 жыл бұрын
How to record that as a transaction ?
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
I will be doing a video on that soon
@reeseanderson44323 жыл бұрын
Great video man! Will you be making a video on the Citibank wire transfer error to the creditors of Revlon and how best an employee/company could avoid making mistakes like these?
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Reese thank you for this tip. Very likely to be topic of next video thanks to you!!
@reeseanderson44323 жыл бұрын
@@TheFinancialController looking forward to it!!!
@shawn88473 жыл бұрын
Great videos. Do you have any crash course videos on US GAAP?
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Thanks will do
@sandcastles233 жыл бұрын
great explanation, thank you!
@Knowledgedad13 күн бұрын
How can I find crypto trades I did where I got liquited and some I got rugged ? I pretty much lost 90% of my capital Is it possible to track these transactions with not much hassle of going back and forth playing detective ?
@arthursage9358Ай бұрын
Got it hope it’s not too late.
@ALshe77i963 жыл бұрын
how to recording in histrocial cost becosue the price of BTC its change every time
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Historical cost is purchase price of the cryptocurrency
@JohnBrown-pq9jt3 жыл бұрын
Look up the legal accounting definition of an intangible asset. Then ask yourself, can BTC, an open source decentralized asset, be patented or copyrighted? Can it be legally declared, Goodwill? It’s bought and sold on an exchange, like a stock.
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
You are not wrong!
@drsshetty123 жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan of you sir..
@SkateTakesTheWorld3 жыл бұрын
I have a question... What are your thoughts on having crypto courses on your resume, when applying for a job at a big 4 company? (Will my application be more interesting or not?) And as always, thank you for great content!
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Will help but not a lot
@1qlues3 жыл бұрын
Does it not reduce teslas tax burden if they can continually show losses in the event that bitcoin goes down in value?
@michaeldaffern16033 жыл бұрын
Yes, however you would assume that they aim to generate a positive roi.
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Yes but as shareholders we don’t like losses
@1qlues3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFinancialController i get that but when you only show losses and not gains it asymetrically favours tesla because it does not INCREASE tax burden as it apreciates, but it if it goes down it DECREASE the tax burden. Im saying the cash-effect of this accounting is favourable to tesla.
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Yes from cash perspective it makes sense. Good point
@1qlues3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFinancialController Appreciate the reply, always good to have a professional confirm that im not just spewing bs! take care🙂
@rosmaryalgarin92923 жыл бұрын
it was so amaizing video and i like everything you explain
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Welcome back rosemary
@rosmaryalgarin92923 жыл бұрын
i'm always here and i staying practicing with everything i learn thanks
@jossslinnn35743 жыл бұрын
great content! thank you so much for sharing the information!!!
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joss
@discoverygarden27303 жыл бұрын
Good topic ! 😊 thank you
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@remembermyname76043 жыл бұрын
Great Video You should definetly do one on Spiffcoin next
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic, let’s see...thanks
@siddharthkulkarni58093 жыл бұрын
If bitcoin is viewed as another short term speculative security, why can't tesla then still record it as short term investments and apply fair value accounting?
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
I believe that’s where gaap rules are headed
@karanshah37613 жыл бұрын
How can it be an investment for an investing company?
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Hay Karan. How do you propose it’s treated as?
@karanshah37613 жыл бұрын
Intangible asset?
@karanshah37613 жыл бұрын
Can you please explain why? Because as per my opinion how can they treat it as an investment when they are trading in them
@shribankebiharijikripa66683 жыл бұрын
Hi thank youu for this information , Love from India 😊
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Thanks fish
@mc.dear416 ай бұрын
Hi, is there a complete free tutorial for crypto bookkeeping? This is too expensive course as i research it on google
@hyong55323 жыл бұрын
Great informative video!
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@chloeheyoo50503 жыл бұрын
bravo, thx!
@aneezasonisoni98663 жыл бұрын
Thanks for information!!!
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching;)
@19adobomarket473 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. amazing stuff.
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Great!
@noelg97952 жыл бұрын
Bitcoin is now legal tender in El Salvador. So, for all other countries bitcoin is foreign currency.
@dichvuketoancaf Жыл бұрын
Hay quá bạn ơi
@rayray72443 жыл бұрын
Once the federal reserve starts getting into it things will change. Once mom and pop stores start adopting it, things will change. I say at most 10 years out?
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Channelll1113 жыл бұрын
I think investment firms will take advantage of cryptocurrentcy in short term basis
@TheFinancialController3 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed
@Jonas-sg1eo2 жыл бұрын
you are wrong about crypto currency you do not fully understand it from what i can tel in this video ledger can be hold by anyone that is why its decentralized you can download ledger at any time and keep track of everything and validate all the transactions in fact community encourage more people to have copies of ledger as that gives better security. you also completely wrong about miners and mining crypto anyone can do you need 0 programing skills to mine it , mining is basically solving puzzle to add next block on chain and puzzle being solve by your computer not by you . Puzzle solving is basically trying to guess result of all possible thats why it will never be the same person who guess all answers first as all they random . actually i watched 10 mins of your video and cannot listen anymore as you are incompetent person to talk about this topic you dont know so much and just talk things you dont even know . this is misinformation for everyone literally there is videos that gives you real information on what is crypto currencies how they work and ect
@kiransookun88822 жыл бұрын
What is the accounting entries for initial recognition of bicoins for Tesla...Dr Intangible and Cr ?.