Ace Attorney- Spirit of Justice (86) The Motive

[@Torjuz]

36:37 - Bewilderment 36:42 - LOCKED IN I see why we call her Ace Attorney Queen, she found it in 5 seconds lmao

[@SamTheMarioMan]

A couple episodes ago, we were talking to Pierce about Selena's fiancée. Phoenix asked him "So where is her fiancée now?" to which Pierce responded "...Good question. I wonder that sometimes myself." The way Pierce said that - now that we know that *he* was the fiancée - kinda seems like Pierce is at least somewhat aware that he's losing control of his life. He wonders "where" the fiancée is now, not literally, but metaphorically

[@Ariovisti]

It also mirrors Sorin's remark about time travellers existing. Beautiful foreshadowing.

[@conorpillay4315]

I'll be honest when he said that I immediately suspected that he was the fiancee

[@kevincullen13]

The hidden in plain sight bits of evidence are always so satisfying to finally see click into place. The revelation of the pocket watch is that much more impactful when you realise how many times we've seen Pierce gazing at it as we've talked to him throughout the case. It's not just that we know he owns it still but that it is something he constantly finds himself focusing on.

[@alexcelticw]

In a previous episode when you asked Ellen about Pierce, she said that he hasn't been with the Sprocket family that long and that it took him a year after he arrived to be the head buttler of the household

[@luxrayblast]

Sephiroth can't fool the Queen of Ace Attorney LPs.

[@JaneGirlGamer]

Don’t you mean Dollar Store Sephiroth?

[@luxrayblast]

@@JaneGirlGamer No, that's Miles. Dollar Stores have Short haired Sephiroths. Pierce is Olive haired Sephiroth.

[@Asmodeus-D4rk]

@@luxrayblast Olive Garden Sephiroth :D

[@luxrayblast]

@@Asmodeus-D4rk Basically

[@mirandamartin4001]

Larry would have been a great character if he developed over time. But he becomes gradually more immature, and is more an obstacle that sets certain parts of the plot forward, and just an overall trouble maker, even after 7 years later. It’s a shame given he is supposed to be important to Nick’s backstory and part of the reason he became a lawyer. He had that one moment of awesome helping Edgeworth’s trial, but since then, he’s just a liability

[@bobosmith101]

Yeah, he gets flanderized, he comes in clutch in the first game and technically the third but really just starts getting more and more in the way.

[@FatalHog]

@@bobosmith101 Thats kind of the sad thing, in every case he is in, he actually DOES help us figure out the truth, by proxy mind you but still. But that comes at the end of us having to DEAL with larry himself.

[@wildcard7449]

So, the pocket watch was the FIRST thing I noticed about Pierce, especially once Selena's picture was added to the court record WAY back at the start of the chapter - once I made that connection it immediately solidifed to me that Pierce was gonna be important somehow, because I went- "Why would we have something like that? Shouldn't Sorin have it?" But once we learned about the "surgeon" that was present during Selena's death, it all clicked for me and I had been WAITING for this moment for the entire case.

[@WhiteFangofWar]

The best place to hide important clues is always the bottom quarter of a photograph.

[@Forever_Zero]

This reminds me a lot of Dual Destinies' DLC, you know, a tragic love story, treason and a tale of revenge. . .

[@Thewindmaker25]

Before I said that Athena would've been OP in this case, but imagine Apollo interacting with Pierce! He would've sussed him out a lot earlier with his power!

[@ShycoWar]

I imagine his tell would've been a subtle movement from one of his fingers as he subconsciously strokes the pocketwatch, as if recalling a fond memory.

[@jeepercreepers9]

When Phoenix asked Pierce where the fiance was there's no way he wouldn't have had a nervous tic

[@greenrangerfan1993]

Next episode is the last of the clasic ace attorney series because the next we meet, it's back in time to the land of the Great Ace Attorney.

[@urius7917]

When we talked to Pierce about Selena, he tells us about her last words to him. We see artwork of the moment, and in that artwork, Pierce is wearing white. The exact outfit a surgeon might wear.

[@ImperfectXIII]

Man, here's a drinking game: take a shot every time Pierce says "that is correct". You'd be dead from alcohol poisoning before the end of the first cross-examination.

[@Gustavo-Guma776]

That is correct

[@kinrateia]

Can't believe i actually managed to solve motive for this one before the reveal, usually their mysteries are so convoluted you can hardly tell

[@nickmathur5950]

33:58 Yeah I’ve thought about this too; if Selena was engaged to the fiancée, and the fiancée was actually Pierce, then it’s weird that no one knew that beforehand, unless Selena hadn’t introduced her family to her fiancée yet, and wasn’t planning to do so until the engagement party. It’s also weird how, if Pierce was the surgeon on that day, Sorin never questioned how he suddenly appeared as his butler all of a sudden later (although, it’s possible that Sorin has no memory of what exactly happened that day due to his condition. And he probably wasn’t writing things down in his notebook yet at the time. So he probably doesn’t even remember that Pierce was the surgeon who operated on him and Selena.)

[@FatalHog]

Eh, thats one of those narrative things that generally gets swept under the rug, if the characters in the story dont acknowledge it, it doesnt really exist, especially with the idea in mind as well that the people who worked under Sorin and the like dont exist to us the player due to not being important for the story's goals. Thus, swept under the rug.

[@ZT1ST]

@26:37; As a left-handed person who learned to write with a teacher that taught right-handed writing, but had a left-handed student teacher helping out, it is distinctively different in how I learned to write relative to the others in the classroom who wrote right-handed. Which is a long way of saying that, with enough analysis of handwriting over time, it should be pretty easy to identify - because we have our hands (When writing) in different positions relative to where we are continuing the (written) strokes.

[@alexjensen9490]

I love how whenever Pierce is stressed, he looks at his pocket watch. He remembers why he’s doing everything

[@rylade475]

if Apollo were here, he'd be perceiving Pierce's grasp on that pocket watch.

[@JJ_R]

When in doubt, blame the butler… or the hot guy, which turned out to be the butler. Double Whammy! Don’t forget to show your badge to everyone, and check their profiles often.

[@WhiteFangofWar]

Also he has Sephiroth hair AND a monocle. *Quadruple* whammy!

[@Toshi-vu1hh]

Basically the second they said she died before her wedding I instantly suspected Pierce of being her fiancé. Didn’t even need the line of dialogue of him being coy, when asked about the fiancé’s whereabouts now, I’ve just been around long enough to know that’s where this could be going. Anyways, excited to see you not accuse him Lucah, he can’t has possibly done it, he’s TOO handsome.

[@redtutel]

I like how Pierce managed to hid his lies in a lot of truth

[@simontravers2715]

@lucahjin That long gasp did not disappoint! Sounds like your voice is recovering well after all its issues this LP.

[@TalysAlankil]

you'd think edgeworth would start trusting phoenix's judgment a little considering their respective track records whenever they're in court together. unless that's just how they do foreplay of course

[@leviathan1173]

Ace Attorney rule: If Lucah finds them attractive, they are the bad guy or at least antagonistic.

[@lucahjin]

This has happened on SO MANY GAMES I've played here

[@coruscant100]

It's why she said so earlier that Pierce did it. She knows the rules and so do we. If they're too good to be true, it's often correct.

[@leviathan1173]

@@lucahjin *laughs in Korekiyo*

[@thecuza9716]

That's not an Ace Attorney rule, that's a Lucah rule. Case in point: She found Ace from 999 hot even though under normal circumstances he'd be about as far from her type as you can get.

[@W_Tile]

Just in my time of need, the perfect video to fight boredom

[@cedricdavis1670]

This is the first time we have Maya. And there wasn't a spirit Channeling?

[@vaLLavRey]

That delight feeling of screaming "Shut the fuck up, Edgeworth!" along with Lucah xDDD

[@thecuza9716]

Don't worry about throwing Ema under the bus, Lucah. She's almost as big of an Edgeworth simp as you, so she's probably going to enjoy whatever punishment he gives her.

[@SinisterPixel]

20:10 - With all of the throwbacks to the original game this case had, it surprises me that after presenting the autopsy here, Edgeworth didn't respond "Mr Wright, when did you receive that autopsy report?"

[@FatalHog]

Another note that I feel like isn't addressed enough is this. Why exactly would Pierce KNOW what Selena's final words were? More particularly, why would she directly tell him? We already know based on that Pierce told us previously that "She told the surgeon to take care of Sorin" which granted would be taken as a double meaning thing due to the fact that its suppose to be like "save sorin, not me" but now its the literal thing. The reason I mention this is the fact that Pierce knew these final words was suspect enough from the get go, without telling us directly.

[@Spatu10]

I do feel like Larry’s Flanderization is a bit of a bummer. He was certainly goofy at the start but he was still Phoenix’s best friend since childhood, but over time he’s become this weird unlikable gremlin

[@nickmathur5950]

22:30 Now that we know the victim was struck twice, possibly by two different people, and that there was most likely a lag between the two blows, something we’ve learned may make sense. It’s possible that Sorin was the one who actually wrote, “I struck and killed Dumas,” in his notebook, but it’s because at the time, he believed that to be true. In other words, he’s the one who delivered the FIRST blow, but he believed that blow killed Mr. Gloomsbury, while it actually only knocked him unconscious. So what he wrote in the book was actually what he believed to be true. But then, Pierce later removed the page, maybe to make Sorin doubt his own memory and confess to Ellen being the killer instead of himself(which ultimately, did, end up happening.) Although, the reality is even weirder, because since there was a time lag between both blows, it’s possible that NEITHER of them was the real killer.

[@kevinr.9733]

If I had a nickel for every Ace Attorney case that hinged on a medical professional failing to realize that someone was not, in fact, dead. I'd have two nickels. Which isn't etc. etc.

[@gavinli1368]

Oh right. Dr. Pal Meraktis

[@graveyardsmash2711]

So uh did anyone else besides me notice that the eyepiece thing by Pierce's monocle is generally the thing doctors and surgeons use? The entire time? :P

[@queenravencrow1]

Clearly the photos never hide anything, the music is good for the intensity, to find answer to the questions.

[@leviathan1173]

10:53 Ace Attorney: Where the truth is *way* weirder than what it first seems.

[@toumabyakuya]

That describes Layton as well.

[@minigolfkid]

Edgeworth probably still having to deal with mounds of casework from his investigations into things that relate to Apollo's whereabouts - probably hasn't slept in weeks.

[@KlaviceGavin]

Please give Pierce a “dude bro” voice during the reveal.

[@JosefDerKaiser]

I just KNEW Pierce was Selena's fiancé the moment they didn't say the person's name. I knew it had to be a plot twist and it wasn't like they were gonna tell us her brother was secretly her fiancé.

[@nickmathur5950]

33:49 Also, think about this, for someone to want revenge on Sorin for Selena’s death, that person would have to KNOW that Sorin was the one who actually caused the accident. Obviously we know that Gloomsbury knew this, since he was made to take the blame. And we know that Sorin’s father knew this, since he’s the one who made Gloomsbury take the blame in the first place, but what reason would Sorin’s father have to do all this? That leaves the fiancée. The fiancée would know, despite what the newspapers said, that Sorin was the one responsible; since he was the surgeon on the day of the accident, he would know what ACTUALLY happened that day. In other words, he would be one of only a few people who knew that Sorin caused the accident, not Gloomsbury. And as Selena’s fiancée, that would put him in a position to want revenge.

[@myboatforacar]

Lucah: How can this get _any worse?_ Game: Keep holding my beer

[@michaelgunnels9694]

And drink it

[@sonicinfinity1871]

Only one episode left. Just make sure you have all the episodes on your playlist.

[@Mystic_Icy]

Man Sephiroth is cute looking why do I fall for hot guys

[@omgtatercat]

Not surprised that Pierce did it, but I wasn't expecting him to be the sister's fiance.

[@TPrower]

After all this time, we finally have an Ace Attorney case where we can proclaim that stock murder mystery phrase: the butler did it. Honestly, Pierce either thought no one would connect the dots about his relation to Selena, or he couldn’t let go of such a sentimental trinket, but if it wasn’t for that watch, I doubt anyone would have made the connection. Also, damn, Larry, making yourself look even worse by saying we should’ve accused Sorin just so you could have a chance with Ellen. You may not have it in you to commit murder, and you may be a talented artist, but you’re still not a very good person.

[@KaiserMazoku]

Shelly de Killer: Am I a joke to you?

[@kevinr.9733]

@@KaiserMazoku Shelly was only pretending to be the butler.

[@TPrower]

@@KaiserMazoku That’s true, though I suppose it’d be a case of semantics since he was pretending to be one, and the real criminal was the one who hired him.

[@victoriavidaud]

Actually, it’s kind of funny that this is the last case in the main line and they only just now did “the Butler did it” 😆 they knew they shouldn’t fall victim to the trope until the very end!

[@myboatforacar]

@@TPrower i mean, I admit he's not great, but the thing with Larry is that he shoots his mouth off and says things he doesn't really mean. Like, all the time. So it might not be so cut and dried. Or it might, it's hard to tell.

[@wildberry_taruto]

You should put up Sephiroth's picture on the next thumbnail 😂🤭

[@TheBarkShark]

I think Pierce was the other person involved in the accident. Whoever the doctor was.

[@KopaXTani]

28:21 Lmao! I’m honestly glad I wasn’t drinking anything that time, ‘cause I would’ve spat all over my screen! Playing the Investigations remasters has made me love this character, and the Wrightworth ship, even more!

[@SiberianNinja-Jin]

For once, I don't mind this cliffhanger. XD But yes, there always seems to be a twist in these cases.

[@michaelgunnels9694]

Next video should be the finale unless you do the extra part

[@JJ_R]

There’s still the Asinine Attorney cases left.

[@michaelgunnels9694]

@@JJ_R which is what I was referring to

[@Ambyssin]

It's funny you mention Edgeworth seeming grumpier than usual at the start of the episode, as that's the exact complaint I've heard commonly and consistently used against the case. That Edgeworth is *too* nasty, to the point of being out of character. Yes, you could argue that he's taking the stress of his position and cleaning house at the prosecutor's office out on Nick. But even in Dual Destinies, when he had this whole "The truth isn't pretty" mindset his performance in court was, at worst, bickering with Phoenix like they were an old married couple. And it did feel like he pivoted to working with Phoenix to tee things up for Blackquill to take over. This case, though? It almost feels like they forgot Nahyuta isn't in this case, because Edgeworth feels similarly nasty and mean-spirited. It does genuinely feel out of character for me, and it's one of the reasons I'm lukewarm on this case as a whole. It's a pity this is, currently, the "last" case in the Ace Attorney timeline, because it felt like a much weaker note to end off on than Turnabout Revolution. I generally skip this case if I'm replaying Spirit of Justice. It doesn't do anything for me. If we do get an AA7, I'd rather they have Edgeworth function like he did in that case, using his position to help in our investigations. Have Blackquill or Franziska or Klavier or, hell, even Nahyuta serve in the "past rival prosecutor returns to the bench for the last case" roll. Or, hey, now that AAI2 has been officially localized, throw us a real curveball and show Eustace Winner as an actually competent prosecutor.

[@bengarrett4984]

I disagree. I think Edgeworth is the same as always. In Dual Destinies he helped Phoenix because that served his agenda: setting Blackquill free. Edgeworth has never shied away from expressing blunt or even hurtful criticism of those around him. Phoenix, Gumshoe, Franziska, various rivals from the investigations games. People just romanticize Edgeworth as kinder than he actually is.

[@Theforestking89]

Awesome sauce

[@GameAlicornLuna]

Spoiler Alert: The next episode will be like 10 minutes or something

[@TriforceWisdom64]

Pierce: "I framed Ellen for murder, but the truth is that she killed Gloomsbury in justified self-defense!" Edgeworth: "This completely destroys the defense's case!" ??????????????

[@Ariovisti]

26:35 you can tell by the smudging of the ink. If it smudges towards the right, it means the hand was on the right side of the pen. Of course, a skilled penman writing calmly on an even surface won't smudge the ink, and most modern byros don't smudge, but a note written in haste with a fountain pen will almost always have some smudging. Edit: Well, they explained it...

[@NightmareFueler]

You know, it only dawns on me now that the pocket watch has a *Red Cross* on the casing. I'll just let that speak for itself.

[@gavinli1368]

Eh, it’s a bit more like a star, but I see what you mean.

[@diesakuma367]

Ofc when you dont know who to accuse,it is always a butler But seriously,i am excited where this trial will go

[@fabby_4902]

First 😝

[@TPrower]

5:27 Why is it always the handsome/pretty faces that cause the most trouble in these cases? Likely because it’s all the more shocking/unbelievable when they show unexpectedly darker sides of themselves. They have a disarming charm that leaves you second-guessing until the moment of truth.

[@nickmathur5950]

26:17 Weirdly enough, when I first played this game, I didn’t consider the fact that the note was the piece of evidence, mainly because, they had already shown it to us right beforehand. So I presented a bunch of wrong evidence first, and when that was eliminated, I presented the note as a guess. I didn’t realize them showing the note there was meant to be a hint. It almost felt TOO stupidly easy to the point where I didn’t even consider it at the time. These games are really good at pulling stuff like that.

[@beterbomen]

36:40 I think I had the exact same reaction when I saw it, too.

[@morgancrabtree6248]

24:58 This was the evidence I connected the dots on and didn't say my theory because it's outright in the evidence.

[@DeltaFrazzle]

5:26 this had no reason to make me laugh as much as it did.

[@PrincessSunnyoftheSandWings]

5:29 I ask myself all the time with NPC idiots in games when they do something stupid 😂😂😂😂!!!