Active Shooters | EP. 070 | Mike Force Podcast

[@mdselmer4249]

As a teacher, I’ve always toyed with the idea of keeping my concealed carry in my bag. If a shooting ever happened at my school, I’d rather go to jail for possessing in an illegal area than be killed or worse, my students be killed. My main fear is it being discovered that I have it when there isn’t an emergency situation. So many things wrong with gun laws!

[@TheGhostofUm]

Depending on where you live there are classes for an Enhanced Conceal Carry License which allows you to carry is most places that a normal carry license or Constitutional carry wouldn't allow. Your employers may not be terribly happy about it and you may be fired, but legally speaking you'd be in the clear.

[@joel553009]

How could you possibly be discovered? Do random people reach in your bag?

[@jacobkonkel6793]

If you were the teacher of my children you'd have my permission.

[@operator1018]

If you keep the weapon on your person, and not in your bag, the chances of being discovered are very, very minimal. I wish my children teacher was carrying.

[@joel553009]

@Antoine Brosseau you'd be surprise the places I've been to that don't allow firearms. I don't take mine off once I put it on 😉

[@loneranger1316]

My small town in SW Missouri we hired a former Navy Seal to guard our children I know him personally and I promise you he will do his job. The US has thousands of former military that could do this job let's do it.

[@Handcannon77]

Exactly, there are plenty of retired military who are more than capable and trained to do this very job, and im sure many would be happy to protect this countries children. Itd also be a good place to start in reforming how awfully we treat our retired vets(especially combat vets), which is another area that this country desperately needs change in. Why WOULDNT we do this? There isnt a single good reason I can think of.

[@jacobkonkel6793]

I'm 30 minutes outside of St. Louis. Good to know there are areas (relatively) nearby that are exercising some logic and critical thinking.

[@loneranger1316]

@@Handcannon77 get with your school board or superintendent and parents and set some thing up we did it.

[@loneranger1316]

@@jacobkonkel6793 get with your school board or superintendent and parents if the school can't afford it parents can set up a fund to pay for private security and a buck a week from each student or parents have a former military person veted and go.

[@Paul-gf9fc]

Former fbi, Dea, military

[@davidscafe3487]

I am a welding instructor at a technical school and I'm always armed. I also have 8 years of law enforcement experience and have been through many training classes to include active shooter training. I have told my students that I will take a bullet before they do. Thankfully Texas has allowed concealed carry on college campuses. And my school allows me to carry concealed.

[@HardcoreFourSix]

I am 59 years old. In my lifetime, a plethora of laws & rules have been enacted that restrict the freedom of Americans when it comes to firearms. For the vast majority of my 59 years, there were very few shootings (especially "mass shootings") at schools. We had a rifle club at my high school. We brought guns to school and left them in the gunracks of our pickups. We handled Christmas gift guns (showing them off) after Christmas vacation. Nobody shot their classmates. Now after all of the "reasonable gun safety" laws, we have a rash of these horrible events. We have defective people. We have young men who do not care about themselves, so why would they care for anyone else? We have many young men taking prescribe psychoactive meds. MAny (most?) of the shooters are on such meds. The problem is NOT firearms.

[@rudiratte1]

Gun homicides per captia are lower today than in the 1970s. Shut up about your "everything was better in my days" trope. It doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

[@HighReadyBoutique]

Mike if you are reading this I just want you to know how much some of us look forward to your videos look for you for guidance and as a real male role model, I know I've heard you say when you got out you struggled to find what your purpose was going to be in civilian life but I just want to instill confidence in what you're doing you are supporting and creating strong men. Thank you for what you're doing God bless and God bless America.

[@adamellis951]

100% agree

[@Scarywoody]

According to reports the Sheriff's office responded but would Not go in. Instead they held parents back. An off duty Border Patrol just ran in and stopped it.

[@howardanderson3662]

From what I've read it was an on duty BORTAC agent. Which is border patrols version of special operations or SWAT not just a random off duty border patrol agent.

[@chrislukasak8530]

I'm seeing this too. Looks like these cops turned out to be cowards.

[@mattmorrison9379]

I've heard some say that alot of good officers quit the job during the covid epidemic and not wanting to get vaccinated. If all this is true what are we left with?

[@howardanderson3662]

Yea, it looks like BORTAC showed up, and were actually physically held back by Police on scene. Eventually they ignored direct orders, got a key from the janitor made entry were engaged immediately upon entering and ultimately put the shooter down.

[@mattmorrison9379]

@@howardanderson3662 have you heard the story 13 hours? The contractors were told to stand down. Well they gave up their employment and security clearance also any right to the life insurance for their families to help the people at the embassy. Maybe they lack proper leadership?

[@codyshepp7432]

If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything. This is Good Vs. Evil. Very few out there that'll speak the truth and take a stand. This guy's my hero...

[@craigjohnson775]

Mike Glover for President 2024!!

[@carlosrickaby1928]

My wife is a teacher, and my daughter is in school right now, the world is changing, and it's scary, I appreciate the knowledge you pass on, it's reassuring that others understand and feel the concern I feel and have, thank you.

[@rogue3524]

Thank you for sharing the knowledge, people in need of this verry much.

[@scolbert6644]

Solid info, every school must adopt this immediately.

[@operator1018]

I’ve been a First Responder for nearly 35 years. And 3-4 years ago, I went to my local school district offering my services, to teach every single kid, in the district CPR. The basically said no thank you. So sad, because I’m 100% sure, that at least one kid would have saved a life, weather doing CPR on a friend or family member, or recognizing that grandma, is having a stroke. And getting grandma to the ER Before it’s too late. So, so sad.

[@anthonyluisi7096]

Mike , what you speak of is the “ Israeli “ model of security… kudos brother 🙏

[@ronwoods1834]

The timeline is troubling. It sounds like there were multiple chances to keep this from getting to this point. If he was able to lock the door to keep trained personnel out, the door should have been locked to keep him out upon hearing him firing outside of the school. Police refusing to engage an active shooter is a huge problem. Hesitation costs lives. Every moment an active shooter is breathing is more lives lost.

[@rudiratte1]

"The timeline is troubling. It sounds like there were multiple chances to keep this from getting to this point." Yeah it's called gun control.

[@82lowe36id]

Spot on Mike.

[@peteperkins3859]

I'm pissed the coward cops waited an hour for the SWAT team. Parents were begging to borrow police gear to go inside and they were being cuffed and detained. WTF? Why did the cops even show up?

[@trava4156]

Another reason why you can’t rely on the cops.

[@christianhermansson8566]

It took 90 minutes from the first 911 calls until it was over.

[@peteperkins3859]

@@christianhermansson8566 Heard the story of one woman that drove 40 minutes to the school,was cuffed by police until she talked them into uncuffing her, sneaked into the building and rescued her kids...unarmed.

[@CWhite228]

They are there to enforce laws, not to protect you.

[@christianhermansson8566]

Tucker Carlson implied the obvious last night, that this was, quite possibly, an event staged by US Government actors. I mean, honestly, would a regime (i.e. actors within the US power elite and deep state) that deliberately lies in order to start unjustified wars that cause the death of millions of people (Iraq etc) balk at grooming mentally unstable kids to shoot up a few schools? Of course not.

[@HC-ov2hh]

Spot on Mike G

[@SigmundPimpulopis]

Excellent. Thank you

[@groovyazzz]

Thank you Mike for using your platform to inform people and bring rational arguments to the forefront.

[@godskidreyes]

Mike can you guys put together PowerPoint class for teachers and kids and let’s us know how can we get it. I have access to school district and I have talk to them about safety for over 3 yrs and they always wait to the worse to make change. This is our opportunity to use our knowledge and teach, hopefully they are ready to learn.

[@eliat72]

I'm a teacher and this would be extremely helpful to show students as well.

[@alexashworth3119]

You can't have peace without security. You can't have education without security. Nothing works if there is no security. These schools have too many students per classroom. Too many teachers are responsible for too many students. Kids don't need to be crowded. They are treated like animals. Parents don't actually know the teacher.

[@charlesshankle3178]

Mike, I appreciate you highlighting surrounding issues to shootings and other tragedies such as mental healthcovid, etc. You are not advocating Knee-Jerk reactions, you are advocating in-depth, comprehensive analysis of societies problems, tragedies, etc. Thank you!!!

[@josephliptak]

I like the way you think Mike. People need to start opening their eyes and start using their gray matter instead of placing responsibility on groups of people.

[@calebtravers]

I’m glad to hear Missouri in your list. Will be acting at the local level to advocate for change.

[@mitchbrown3753]

All truth, how can we as veterans get involved. I will give up my free time to help. -Ex Australian Army living in Kansas.

[@NANA-lq5md]

I would gladly pull a shift guarding a school.

[@Nunya_Binness]

Amen brotha!

[@JujU957-1]

Great to hear you talk on this matter!

[@dmanderson01]

Thanks buddy. Awesome as always.

[@SOEtacticalgear]

Mike you are very good at this.

[@HC-ov2hh]

Spypoint trail cellular cam works great for home use. Notifications via text free. I use them to protect my house and garage. Sits inside my garage.

[@rickhayduke]

A QUICK LITTLE STORY ABOUT AN ARIZONA SCHOOL..... My son was at school and a student my son didn't really know cqme up to him and said " I'm going to F/N kill you ". I noticed when he got home he was very quiet and asked what had happened. I called the police and they said contact the school first. Well I did, and they said the kid was just kidding. No further action was taken by the school. Sweeping this under the rug doesn't help . IT MAKES THINGS WORSE

[@stephen8996]

Did anything happen? What were they supposed to do

[@alanwilliams2251]

Great input as always. Thanks Mike!

[@secondgear6079]

Need more like u Brother ,praying for comforting all the family's and survivor's God bless and Thank-you for my freedom

[@patrickb8533]

Amen brother 🙏 🙌 👏 ❤️ 💯

[@Scott-gt6od]

Thanks Mike .

[@gsg9ff]

I have over 2 decades of security experience and find that A lot of public and private institutions have always played down any effective security measures like armed guards and restrictive access be it for expense or inconvenience (screening is a hassle) not wanting to feel like their work place is a potentially dangerous space by having armed guards (what kind of message does that send to visitors or customers). People often feel that attacks are things that happen to others or that they are infrequent. They may temporarily worry about it when there is a very public high profile attack but they tend to have short memories. I would have no doubts that the majority of security officers in America are unarmed, under paid, under trained or inept to deal with a deadly threat like an advancing shooter.

[@aarona8203]

we need this in Northwest Indiana too. At least our elementary school has locked doors and u need buzzed in.

[@skipcooley853]

Outstanding. How can I get more info on your class and what you teach

[@riffedwood5597]

Thank you for coming to San Diego! I got a 1.5 year old and one on the way and I hope we can get our schools on board by the time they’re in school

[@steventolbert6804]

Mike, it is my understanding that he got in through a door that a woman had propped open for what ever reason. That decision will now haunt her the rest of her life.

[@rudiratte1]

Your understanding is wrong.

[@steventolbert6804]

@@rudiratte1 thank you, just shows my local news is not always correct. I appreciate the clarification.

[@sumotive77]

Not only would these points strengthen our security. But our children. Our leaders and our nation.

[@bryanmcdermott4204]

1) Locking down schools seems like an easy start. 2) All school rooms should have a lockbox for personal items, whatever those may be.

[@carlosleboss104]

I grew up in Brazil and always hated to have fenced in schools where we couldnt leave at lunch breaks with only 2 points of access etc. Now I understand how such a violent country with shootings in every aspect of life has so little school shootings. (Private schools mostly but public schools are pretty boarded up as well)

[@bryanfox2735]

The border patrol dude took the guy out. The said don’t go in and he said f that!!! Fjb 💪💯🇺🇸

[@maxrogers762]

AMEN!!🙏🇺🇸💪💪💪

[@arthurfleck8777]

In Switzerland they have a lot of guns, yet they have zero mass shootings. In Britain there are around 3 million guns owned by around 900,000 gun owners yet we've only had 3 mass shootings in the last 30 years committed by legal gun owners. America has had 272 this year... We're only in May.

[@bryanfox2735]

Yea why do we protect adults but not our children??? What’s up with that!!! Wake up people!!! Fjb 💪🇺🇸💯

[@BlackDogOriginal]

The gun lobby is minuscule compared to pharma and tech.

[@theunforgiven462]

And less dangerous

[@williamwilliam6714]

It isn't like we don't know, what must be done. Far past time, for half measures. Incompetence by design, continues.

[@RACP98]

Preach brotha 22:38

[@bigmoboram5996]

Nailed it

[@teclaspeed3837]

Excellent information

[@dankchewy2699]

MIKE CAN YOU PLEASE Introduce these safety protocols in NC ‼️‼️‼️

[@randallledgerwood3949]

OFF The X ! good ,good ! WOW 😳!

[@g11rfe87]

Ukraine money could have funded half a million dollars in security updates PER PUBLIC SCHOOL in the country

[@amarilloslim5573]

Great job Mike, nice proposal. from your first autograph fan in missouri 100 acre.

[@GraemeAlexander]

Great content

[@inferninx]

Hey Mike, just to let you know, the transgender person you’re talking about wasn’t involved in this shooting in any way. It’s a random person who doesn’t even live in the state of texas. That person’s Reddit account somehow got mixed up in all of this because someone thought that the transgender person looked like the shooter. It’s sadly a case of mistaken identity. Just wanted to let you know that said person had nothing to do with it so you don’t associate someone who had nothing to do with this shooting like so many others are doing right now.

[@reymiranda2861]

Change needs to happen Mike real change with real results

[@Division_Agent_]

I have been hearing and reading stories that officers have been sitting outside while the suspect was inside. There's video coverage of it on a (Former police officer & military ) "Good Luck America" KZbin channel. We're all looking for more coverage on it.. Parents were urging the officers to get inside but nothing was done by the officers. But mainstream Media mention nothing about it

[@21scavage]

There actually may have also been cops inside the building for a while but they wouldn't enter the classroom. The official story is changing all the time. It's really strange. Fact is they weren't in that class room.

[@Division_Agent_]

@@21scavage no they left immediately as soon as he shot, cops there said so...so they left the kids .. so much for protect and serve.... surprisingly enough, even the media is asking the hard questions.... cop ducked the question repeatedly...

[@Division_Agent_]

@@21scavage the story is getting more and more clear everyday. it's looking bad on the cops

[@howardanderson3662]

The timeline looks real bad. CPB agents may have actually been physically stopped from going in when they arrived by Police, and eventually disregarded the order to wait, and gained entry through a locked door via a key given to them from a janitor.

[@Division_Agent_]

@@howardanderson3662 according to the officer on scene doing the interviews. no officer what's physically stopped everyone was told not to go in there until they get the right equipment and we devise a plan which took 40+ minutes. Meanwhile in the background shooter was having his way...... Only people that were physically stopped were the parents that were trying to make entry one was handcuffed. And when she was released she got around cop defense and got her kids out

[@js2567]

As a person who has taken up the responsibility of carrying firearms and medical equipment with me daily, I feel like it's asking a lot to ask the average school teacher to carry firearms. If they already have that mind set, go nuts, please do carry. But I don't see that as a practical solution. Designated security personnel is the far better solution. Still not a great solution, but a pretty good idea for the time being while more solutions are developed.

[@renéTheDev]

There was a police officer at our campus when I was in junior high, and high school, but I don't remember one being at my elementary. I believe there were only assigned security that were teachers. I did feel safe when an officer was present, because public school was pretty crazy where I live.

[@078249]

Back in 1978 my middle-class public high school had a full-time police officer. 1978!!! This is not complicated, it's political.

[@Mittenman313]

09-2012 was my high-school years. We had 4 retired cops that worked security ALL day and were armed. We had I.D school cards with our info on it. Unfortunately the government doesn't care about us or our kids anymore.

[@RevellAndRepend]

As an alternative, parents could try to organize a homeschooling organization of some sort. Where the parents of multiple families in the community meet up once a week to discuss the material, and take care of any paperwork. Perhaps find a way to make the organization legit so that the kids have an actual paper to find work with. To be honest the education system is super messed up anyway, aside from the shootings, so it might be a good move. If the groups of kids are kept around 4-5 max for each home, overseen by their own parents (or their neighbor if the parent is unable to teach) they'll be a lot safer, and the community will be a lot stronger as a result of it.

[@primeddefender]

Thank you for saying what needs to be said and thank you for being a great leader!

[@dsclarke1055]

Hi Mike, can you possibly provide or recommend a format for an email to be sent to school boards in regards to active shooter/mass casualty protection and response? Thank you.

[@stephenscott3078]

As a father of 3 wonderful boys that are now men, I was told by doctors and teachers in the public school system that all of them needed ADD medicine 💊 for focusing issues and behavior problems. I took them out of the public school system. How many kids are taking prescription drugs? Mental health is the issue! Not to mention the gaming industry decentizing our children to kill characters with violence everyday. Appreciate you Mike. Thank you for all you do.

[@gregw2388]

Apparently, the shooter was not trans, not that it matters. The photo that got published was of some random trans person, and not the shooter. We really need to stop with the hot takes about people before we have any useful information in these situations. Every time, the "news" comes out with this outlandish reporting, people lap it up, and then it changes after a few days when people have stopped paying attention. Better to be first than right, I guess.

[@robertberumen4113]

How do we go about getting active shooter training for our training facility?

[@snakebite210]

I've always had Ryan Cleckner's Mayday safety app. It's supposed to help in an active shooter scenario.

[@kesmed2001]

Legislation vs Litigation

[@tgs9740]

I mean this happens every weekend in Detroit Chicago and LA but nobody's bitching about that.

[@Lockdown335]

Yes gang members and drug dealers murdering each other is very similar to defenceless kids and women being slaughtered........ This exact scenario is a great example of how the great idea of just arming anything with a pulse doesn't work that well.... Your own cops stood outside while kids died and in other cases the armed officer on-site to protect the school did nothing..... Yet you want to arm teachers who make $35k a year and have no experience with that level of violence. How long before one cracks and kills students? Or a student gets their gun? or they accidentally discharge because they have no idea? Im pro guns but mericans mentalities around guns are fucced to the point you say something like this.....

[@bornfree180]

Just one question who was giving the orders to stand down after that everyone of those cowards in full KIT who just stood by should be held accountable

[@C.B.W]

With great power comes great responsibility. I just feel like there should be more checks to prevent mentally ill, violent, or unsafe people from getting guns. It’s harder to get a drivers license than get a gun. That just doesn’t seem logical to me. There should be required training and safety classes and you demonstrate unsafe behavior or raise a red flag, you need to wait and try again. Just have more vetting.

[@C.B.W]

There was a cop at parkland and he ran away. Armed officers aren’t always going to save the day. What the cops did at uvalde is shameful by standing around and waiting for 90minutes

[@arthurfleck8777]

But I thought "Good Guys with guns stopped bad guys with guns"...

[@gridtac2911]

@@arthurfleck8777 a coward with a gun is no better than an evil person with a gun. The gun is not the problem. The culture is the enemy. Crafting men of weak morals and weak fortitude. A good guy defined as having good morals, principles, and ethics... The cowardly cops caught running away have none of those.

[@GentiluomoStraniero]

As always, top notch content! We are dealing with a portion of the population that doesn't like the OPTICS OF REALITY.

[@RomeroFamilyFunChallenge]

Right. I'm so tired of hearing people say, "We need more legislation!" what we need is better mental health, stricter punishment for drug dealers, and more people with guns protecting the schools. Off duty police protecting every school. I lived 2 blocks from Marjorie Stoneman in Parkland Florida when that shooting took place about 5 years ago. I was 2 miles from there working for Uber when that occurred. I was also carrying. That wouldn't have happened if I got his call. Good responsible people need to buy a gun, learn how to use it, and carry it with the proper permit. Go about their business.

[@arthurfleck8777]

1- What Mental illness did the shooter have and how did it lead to him committing this act 2- What do drug dealers have to do with this? 3- You had a team of people with guns outside the school doing nothing 4- On duty cops didn't protect it 5- If you got the call for this what would you have done? walked past the cops stood outside with a gun in your hand and got shot? or made it inside to find a barricaded door with the sound of gunfire and children screaming happening. And then what would you do shoot through the door?.

[@MB2.0]

@@arthurfleck8777 you're a maroon 👀

[@alfaivre2990]

Few days later and we find out the timeline and actions taken they provided were complete lies. Law enforcement aren't always the good guys. How many times do we have to be given examples of them refusing to act. You're safety and your families safety is on you.

[@SheepDogNumber6]

40000 laws, but a few more will fix it.

[@jnewguyin]

I understand most teachers would never think weapons training be a necessity. While the gun control debate runs in circles because both sides can not compromise, bad people will continue to do bad things. Food for thought, teachers did not commit to their jobs because they want to fight fires. However teachers should still need to learn how to use fire extinguishers.

[@kencaz]

Have a feeling it's going to be a Looong Summer...!!!

[@dmiester8417]

Hey Mike. Have a question. I have seen more and more "training ammo" for guns and have heard you mention certgun in your cqb video. Do you have any other recommendations?

[@tonyrome5584]

Mike, first I agree with everything you said and your OFF protocol. I just wanted to convey my experiences with two gun incidents back when I was attending a top Catholic High School in Ohio. When I was a sophomore (1964) I stopped to talk with with a buddy out front of the school where guys gathered before classes. While I was talking my eye caught sight of another guy next to me holding a pistol pointed at the back of another guy's head! I reacted grabbing arm of the potential shooter; pushing it barrel to the sky. Fortunately a guy on the other side of the attempted shooter also grabbed his arm while I stripped the gun out of the guy's hand. A few other other guys grabbed the asshole's arms and legs and drug him into the school office (kicking and screaming) where I put the loaded .25 auto Beretta on the counter in front of the assistant principal. The guy was immediately expelled and turned over to police. FYI, I had been trained in Jujitsu from 5th to 8th grades and had been been training in Judo since I started high school. In some ways I can't believe that I reacted that quickly, but I know all that training was the key to stopping the attack. The next year there was another incident where a student in study hall pulled out a gun and pointed it at a teacher (I was no there to see that incident). Luckily there were two football players sitting behind the "shooter" and they quickly disabled the idiot. So,this shit can happen at even one of the best schools in the city. A few minutes ago I saw a report that the Texas shooter entered the school unimpeded, the doors were left open (unlocked). He was not challenged by any security officer; just walked in, down the hall and into the classroom where he did all the killing!! The school administrators that allowed those doors to just sit there unlocked should be criminally liable!!!!

[@janeennichols4187]

No need for a total ban..and I'm not entirely familiar with American gun laws! However I feel there is definately a need for stricter registration control such as Age limitation..criminal records check..basic pre psychological analysis..enforced training to obtain a licence and yearly assessments and licencing.

[@Truth-Matters-ck8pb]

What are your thoughts of the recent Lakewood Church shooting in Texas? The cops were the ones who was the scared the most, sad very sad.

[@jackj4186]

All U.S. schools need armed security,doors locked at all times during class

[@C.B.W]

@Antoine Brosseau This isn’t possible at all schools. Maybe new schools that were designed like prisons. But older schools aren’t designed like that, my high school had an open campus built in the middle of a neighborhood with an upper and lower area with a city street running inbetween. One way in/out is impossible

[@nickloven6728]

@@C.B.W we should have the money to redesign all the schools in America but we are to busy giving our money away to foreign countries.

[@Lockdown335]

@@nickloven6728 lol

[@christianhermansson8566]

Not really. The problem is that the US is terminally ill as a society. It is broken. Or rather, it was deliberately subverted and destroyed by a hostile alien elite that took over the media and institutions many decades ago. No security measures can fix this. It is like putting a band aid on an amputated leg or giving an aspirin to a patient riddled with cancer in the brain and lungs. Why did these things not happen in the 1950's?

[@rays2827]

Do want to point out that the whole transgender thing is apparently misinformation -- it's two unrelated individuals who go by Sam and Sabrina. I do think that the solution is probably more towards doing away with ban zones and rotating SWAT through schools with additional funding. I say rotating in SWAT because I think the human tendency towards mediocrity will lead to any armed guards being mere security theater if things happen. Evidently, the school guard there was armed and did not engage the suspect until he was actually already in the school. Even better if the rotated in officers have kids going into that school. You'll fight like hell to take this guy out. Add in working dogs, looking at security around ingress points and better SOPs. That's the defensive side. On the proactive side, focus around better mental health practices. I saw a story about Louisiana dads going into schools and their presence made school violence go down. More coherent community structures built around the schools might restore what used to be (probably) provided by the church.

[@eriktildahl2492]

Can any Law Enforcement tell me if you're taught CQB during active shooter drills? Or at all? Love your work man, thanks for all you do.

[@Sikpoop101]

30 years retired. I was in a department of 800. The normal deputy received POST training to become a LEO, and yearly firearms qualifications. This consisted of shooting at a paper target at different distances with magazine reloads and gun stoppage clearing. The passing score was 80%. There was no CQB training unless you passed and joined the Emergency Service Unit. The unit normal compliment was roughly 180 members out of the force of 800. The ESU required higher standards and firearm proficiency. The department also consisted a 15 member Special Response Team (SRT), which is our SWAT. This team came from the ranks of the ESU and required higher standards. Right after the Columbine shooting the units received extensive active shooting training. However, public opinion and complacency that extensive training became yearly to maybe once every other or three years based on funding. Training is essential, when you don’t have it the results could be similar. Bunch of chickens running around without their heads.

[@eriktildahl2492]

@@Sikpoop101 Thank you for all of that information and I appreciate your 30 years having served in the PD. I come from 5 years active duty in the Infantry (Army) and we did a lot of CQB. In your opinion would CQB be a benefit for the departments as a whole? The reason I am asking is yes, you are absolutely correct that you can never have too much training. Do you think CQB should be the immediate response tactic by the responding officers? I thought so but based on my background I was unclear what other Law Enforcement believed or was taught. Again thanks so much for your insight and everything you've done to serve and protect as a LEO.

[@Sikpoop101]

@@eriktildahl2492 CQB is essential in active shooter. We trained in four man teams and even in three man teams. Officers need to engage the threat especially at schools. We knew the dangers of doorway entry and usually it’s the second man into the room that gets hit due to reaction time. We learned to have a plan first entry staggers left and second to right to cover their areas. The third enters straight while the last man covers the rear. This was how we were taught. Practice is needed, otherwise, we all sat on our hunches and wait for instructions. Usually that’s a barricaded subject with one or two hostages. Someone shooting wildly on the other hand leaves you no options but a quick response in my opinion. A lot of mistakes occurred in Texas and only time to study what happened will it be known. I believe this Department based on its size and budget had no way of handling the situation effectively.

[@eriktildahl2492]

@@Sikpoop101 Yeah we got taught pretty the same as you guys in the beginning and then we adapted our own SOP's after that so I get exactly what you're saying. In your opinion do you think these guys tried to make entry using these tactics? Or just all messed up? Not trying to put blame on anyone but the shooter. It just seemed odd to me they said they needed riot shields and other special equipment. But a simple 8 man or even 4 man team could've went in fairly quickly and taken him out. Not trying to blame, just to gain more knowledge on how you guys operate and if you think these tactics should be in all departments?

[@Sikpoop101]

@@eriktildahl2492 from my understanding the officers never even tried when they took fire from the shooter and remained behind concealment. The responding border patrol that arrived later had the shield. Still waiting for more accurate information, but I am not part of that department and the truth will most likely be deemed confidential for the investigation. Several months will pass before actual facts are released but the public will most likely forget or a new horrific incident take over the media.

[@AccuSol-ERN]

Come on Mike.......more laws will DEFINITELY help........I mean, it's not like premeditated murder is illegal or something???

[@carlosmaldonado9510]

I was a teacher this year Mike what a teacher needs to do to be able to carry in a school and in a church legally

[@JayDubb3BCT]

It always falls back to the fact that if guns kill people then spoons make people fat and pencils misspell words. It's not a tool issue, it's a mental health issue. Plain and simple.

[@C.B.W]

Maybe we should have more stringent checks so mentally ill people don’t have easy access to weapons.

[@jw5297]

In this day and age, I'm an automation technician, I do access control and HVAC automation, with BluePoint, and other systems like it, there is no reason why if a shooter were to make it inside that doors can't be locked and steel doors in hallways cannot be activated to close, effectively locking that shooter in an area. I agree with you about secure checkpoints for entry. I too am calling our superintendents of our county schools, sheriffs office, city and state police. Congressmen and senators at the state level. While I mean no disrespect, all our schools have an SRO, they're mostly all old on the verge of or are retired officers, collecting a check. But these gentlemen are less fit than me, and are not able to run across campuses and be effective The things we can write code logic for these days and be able to control and monitor temperature for millions of dollars worth of server racks, control speeds of fans and water pumps bigger than the average home. Alert someone if a tamper switch on a smoke detector on a piece of ductwork in a random place in the building is loose. We can do all this for comfort, energy management, and insurance requirements. I ask Biden this... What is the life of just one child worth? America, I ask you this.... What can you do to spearhead action in your area? Taking gums from law abiding citizens is not a solution. Criminals do not obey laws, thats why the ban is and was ineffective, and because it did nothing and laws our systems put in place fail and have very little effect is because we worry more about offending a criminals rights than our law abiding citizens. This is why you'll never succeed in taking guns away. Perfect utopia does not exist. Be safe, stay armed, and be an asset to your community.

[@MisterVoltage]

I guess you filmed this podcast before the news that it took over an hour for poice to do something about it. They needed a key to get in. He almost killed everyone in that room. Brave? I think cowardly more describes it.

[@tmmccormick86]

yeah that quite about the assault weapon ban was wildly inaccurate; the primary reason it was allowed to sunset was because crimes committed with assault weapons didn't go down- in fact, they rose by roughly 1%. There was no change to mass shootings.

[@beas150]

Man I wish you would’ve recorded this today after the amount of sheer cowardice was revealed. Those officers will have live with the poor choices they made .

[@johnmacri7440]

So right Mike my kids are out of school but I worry about grandchildren. Why do you believe private schools are more safe. ?

[@MB2.0]

Some have armed guards

[@rockylambert8141]

Go mike 100% correct with everything said!

[@tjyeninas6076]

Can’t even watch anymore. Makes me sick. I’m sorry. Seeing on news, hearing about it, KZbin, I just can’t stomach it anymore

[@CA.0verview]

A teacher’s husband passed away from a broken heart when he got word of his wife..

[@daltonfury_]

reports I saw...no locked door...no school officer present