ADA SUPER JET 600 FILTER: IS IT WORTH IT? Kevin Novak Ph.D.

[@donde1984]

Well made honestly and you're right nothing else in the market !. Have a question for you if you don't mind. Will it filtered a 60 gallon aquarium no problem and how long is the cycle

[@spyrit35]

Exactly the type of review that I would expect from you Dr Novak.. VERY well done and extremely comprehensive... I love when reviews are this detailed (I usually on see this from consumer electronics and power tool reviewers)... Thanks a lot (even if I would never buy a canister filter at that price point).

[@dchadd6931]

You give so much information.... you really are good at putting things into perspective. If I only wanted one Aquarium and one filter I would get the Cadillac. My budget and enjoyment of the hobby requires an entire fleet... your experience and knowledge helps me too make better choices. ..... I purchased your e-book last year.... the changes I’ve made in my fish room and pond have greatly impacted and improved the health of my water and it’s inhabitants. I’m always open to improvements. Thank you.

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

Thanks, I do it for people like you.

[@stephenmanning3978]

Really great review. Your engineer’s perspective adds value not found in any other video or written review I’ve found. Love my es-600. Yes it’s incredibly expensive, but you’ll be happy seeing it as part of your setup and it will last you forever.

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

I have to agree, very well-made but most people will probably never appreciate its beauty and construction.

[@Ttblondey]

At last the moment that we have been waiting for.

[@zelphernide5758]

The wait is over

[@Ttblondey]

Waiting for second video.

[@zelphernide5758]

Anoxic wait is a new wait. The weight of an anoxic knowledge is worth the wait

[@Ttblondey]

True

[@michellep3814]

Very late reply but the stainless steel used for the construction is SUS304.

[@Hellacop6]

Loved the comparison with Seiko watches…lovely filter, and grand Seiko

[@julianryan7060]

Thanks for the great review, Dr Novak. Very much look forward to anoexic filter setup as I'm about to set up my tank again after a few years and have learnt a lot watching your videos. I've got an eheim 2213 classic I've had for 15 years and still going strong. Changed the impeller and ceramic shaft a few times, other than that its served me well. BTW, on the 2213 label it says 440 litres per hour. Thanks again!!

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

The 2217 says after looking at it 1000 l/h (260-gal) . Head is 2.3 m. A lot more output than the ADA.

[@guppiesstories5942]

Very informative video with the pro &cons. Nice to note very keen insights into the weakness of the Eheim pipe connecting points so that we can take precautions not to break them. I will say that maybe there will be some priming issues with the ADA filter as the impeller is out of the waterline of the filter.Whereas the Eheim impeller is sitting inside the filter well below the waterline.And tightening up will further force more water into the impeller therefore easy start. I could be wrong, if the ADA pump has very good close tolerances in its impeller, and start will then be a breeze then.Just my 2 cents Looking foreward to your anoxic configuration in canisters filters. Thanks Sunny Tan

[@FishmanEricRussell]

You're so right about the variability in stainless steel. Some from certain countries don't do well at all. It will be interesting to see how this does. Thanks for the video

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

It seems that China makes the worst stainless steel and sells it off to America and other countries. If this was made out of a good 316 are better stainless steel there’s no reason it couldn’t be used for salt water applications.

[@jdjr001]

Phenomenal review! Thank you!

[@georgemccool2024]

When you are using an o ring seal you never pull it tight and use a food grade silicon lube. I like the as steal. I work in waste water treatment plant and we use a bio bed reactor for phosphate and nitrate reduction. I love your direction on building bio beds

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

All Eheim’s use a O-ring that is pull tight around the Motors head and they even give you a little tube of Vaseline for the o-ring.

[@namesbinge3073]

Very rare to see an Aquarist and also a watch enthusiast.

[@awilderireland]

You may be aware but the largest Ehiem Classic 1500 XL still has the pump on top. They have a screen over it. But many take it off. It's really just cosmetic. I'm not sure about the smaller models in the range like yours.

[@jeffboone5356]

First, thanks for the video, and I can't wait to see the next one! For those of us with large aquariums 120, 240, etc. is it possible to turn something like an FX6 into an anoxic filter?

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

New video coming out on how I make a BCB for the ADA supper Jet filter. Then see is my way of making a BCB is applicable for your FX6.

[@wwh2694]

Hello I have 2 Ada super jet filter one es600 and es1200, and both of them are directly plugged in 120v for more than 10yrs and no problem. I just don’t know why u use a voltage converter for those pump. Not necessary. Those gasket are heavy duty just need to put those silicone lubricant so they will not dry out. The motor will need to be opened and cleaned coz they will build up muck in them, I only do that every 3 months. Over all these filter are very good. I was like u who bought different kinds of filters and ended in trash I should I have bought this in the beginning. Great video!!!

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

The converter came in the box with the super jet 600. I never saw any video or anything that it came with a converter. Did you get a converter with your super jet 600? And you’re absolutely right, the pump is going to have to be cleaned out. That’s why I was wondering why did they put compression clamps on the pump instead of clamps that require a socket head or screwdriver to loosen up the clamps to take the pump off.

[@wwh2694]

@@anoxicfiltrationplenums My es600 did not came with a converter and this is the limited edition 20th anniversary. It said on both motor is rated at 100v. Cleaning this motors you don’t need to remove the compression clamps instead I just loosen the screws 4 in the front and 2 that holds the motor. The part that goes in front of the motor remains there no need to remove clamps. I will try to put a video of it or picture soon. Thanks. Oh Removing the clamps might cause a leak too if you take it out.

[@wwh2694]

@@anoxicfiltrationplenums Just wondering where did u get ur filter? I got mine at ADG Houston and Aquaforest aquarium. I would ask them too about the 100v converter if needed.

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

@@wwh2694 I will do that.

[@paas624]

It's 100 volts not watts as opposed to 120 volts. You can have 100watts at 1 volt or 100 watts at 1000 volts. Surprise as a engineer you didn't realize that.

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

100 watts is equal to about one amp @ 120 V.

[@exoedge6322]

I’ve been waiting for this video

[@iIiWARHEADiIi]

Old Eheim classic was good. You could change pump to any other pump. Ether put super silent, efficient or high performance pump no problem. Motor of pump was serviceable and wss possible to repair.

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

👍

[@GSP-76]

Great video Dr. Novak...very interesting product.

[@100bgeagle]

Is it better to ram water through your cannister filter or dial it down to maximize your filtration? I have 2 406 fluval cannisters on a 75 gallon med heavy bio load. Run full open or better to dial back? Running full open and no problems.

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

Faster the better.

[@100bgeagle]

Thanks!!!!

[@bamabladez]

2.3liters is probably the liters the filter holds. Also you can't go by manufacturer flow ratings. Every filter I've ever owned are usually close to 50% of manufacturer ratings.

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

The flow rate of the filter is going to depend on the pumps head pressure. However, have you ever seen a filter rating that actually tells you the head pressure of the filter? I have never seen a filter tell me what head pressure it can take before no water flow. Why? It would be great to hear your thoughts on that one?

[@fishiemon64]

can't wait for the next follow up to this video

[@garethbaker3429]

Hi Dr. Novak, I just have a quick technical query on cycling the BCB. I made up a new basket about 5 weeks ago. The kitty litter is the same as I have used before but I could not get Laterite this time so I used JBL Pro Flora AquaBasis Plus. The first BCB I made I cycled it by placing it in my aquarium, and this is now in my sump with only mechanical filters, doing a great job. The new BCB I am trying to cycle in a small tank, by itself with 2ppm of household ammonia added. 5 weeks in and no real change in ammonia levels other than topping it up with 1ppm a week. Do you think I have done anything wrong? Or do I just need to wait a few more weeks? I am heating the small tank of water but no circulation or anything else. Thanks for your help.

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

For one thing you should have circulation in the tank because the basket itself is not going to do anything without water being circulated around it. Think of it this way, that’s almost like setting up a canister filter in your tank but not turning it on: what good is it going to do? Try it out and let me know.

[@garethbaker3429]

Ok thanks, it’s only a small tank with nothing in it except the BCB, I thought it would attract the ammonia into the basket from the water? I have a small jet that I can put in so I will try that. So there is nothing wrong with using household ammonia to get it up and running? The way we would with a traditional filter? Thanks again for your help

[@ZeljkoKolevski]

Every manufacturer of canisters knows it product faults, and how to fix it, BUT, they earn a loooot of money with us buying SPARE parts, elbows, taps, impellers, sponges etc etc, that is where their income actually is..

[@pedrocastel8177]

Can you use bentonite clay used for cats? As media for anoxic filtration?

[@kevindigit]

Dr. Novak is the ADA motor more powerful than the Eheim 2217? What’s the flow rate on the ADA compared to the Eheim?

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

The ADA 600 is 80-gph @ 6’ head and the ADA 2400 is 475@15’ head . However, they also suffer from slowdown too just like all filters do. They run hotter than most pumps do too. They also make more noise than, let’s say than the Fzone 800gph pumps do. Even the FZone 6000 that pumps 1500gph , runs cooler, is quieter and will pump more than the 2400 pump does. The FZone 800gph is far better than the 80gph pump on the ADA 600. It cost $60 and comes with 3-year warrantee.

[@kevindigit]

@@anoxicfiltrationplenums thanks I’ll go ahead and get the Fzone then

[@madkev415]

Hi Dr. Do you know high PH will cause corrosion or pitting on stainless steel? I have ADA 1200 mode and used for 2 months, see some pitting spots on lid of the filter on stainless surface thanks

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

Is there any salt in your water? Just because your water is hard the stainless steel should not pit even if it's 304 SS. Unfortunately, the quality of stainless steel will make a big difference on pitting ,too. If you're getting pitting it sounds to me that ADA is cutting corners on their filters using an inferior stainless steel.

[@madkev415]

@@anoxicfiltrationplenums no salt at all, it is set up on fresh water 17 gallon rimless tank, I also took some photos of the pitting, would you like to see them Dr.?

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

@@madkev415 The only thing I can say then is ADA used cheap stainless steel.

[@madkev415]

@@anoxicfiltrationplenums how about the ADA ES-600 the filter you did the Review on? Did you happen to check the inside of it for any pitting? I’m curious to know Thanks

[@mackarof77]

@eheim 600 m 2.3 = max height to push water, l/h 1000 = litres per hour... but yes it is confusing to have unit before value :D

[@SteveRogers-zr8dx]

Thank you. That makes more sense.

Very nice GS! :)

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

Thanks 😁

[@SuperJolly96]

Good Morning Dr, My first fish Aquarium I bought in about 1977 which was 20 gallon plastic that I put 6 discus fry in at $4.00 a piece. After a year or so I put them in a 55 gallon plexiglass. One died about a week into it & I raised the remaining five for every bit of 5 to maybe 7 years. Well in that time I of course tried a few different types of filters including 2 Diatoms. Today I bought a I believe a 76 gallon tall that I filled with water & 2 in tank sponge filters with no discus at moment. After all this my question is which size filter U would use

[@SuperJolly96]

Thanks!!!

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

That would depend on your husbandry and how much work you wish to do. I would add some BCB in the Discus tank with an Amizon Sword plants to aid in Nitrate removal.

[@mpwall123]

I agree, stupid design with the elbow connector. I wonder who over there signed off on it. I refuse to believe they don’t think it’s problematic.

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

They probably do but it’s too late to change the mold. Some day we hope they will fix the problem.

[@mikemcgrath8453]

Hi. Just wondering will an under ground filter work on a saltwater tank

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

Yes, it will.

[@priedj1880]

Hai Dr Novak... i want to know What is the thickness from the oring? Thanks.

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

I don't understand your question?

[@priedj1880]

@@anoxicfiltrationplenums sorry Dr. i mean diameter thickness the o-ring how many millimeters?

[@Ttblondey]

I just upload a video making a Plenum on my 25 cm tank. The water still cloudy because I use the same water and substrate. Never took a video when filling the water. Hopefully you can make a comment. Thanks

[@deneng0259]

Very surprised to hear that you picked the ADA that costs 4 times as much but that really does the same or less. You picked the ATSA 120 light that is nearly not as good as the Kessel light . The ASTA light is not as good but as you say you can buy many more in order to replace them as they wear out and you toss them. Maybe because you are not a plant guy.

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

I guess you haven't seen my 90 gallon planted aquarium. I've been into planted aquarium for 50 years now probably longer than you've even been alive.

[@TheFluffy47]

Superb review, thanks . The ADA filters are beautiful aesthetically and built to last a lifetime, unfortunately they are 40 years behind feature wise , my Oase Biomaster thermo leaves them standing.

[@jtm6671]

Could you tell me the ADA noise level ?

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

The 600 ADA is 68 db @ .5" and the 2400 ADA is 68 db @ .5" from my sound level meter ,Cat. No. 33-2050 .

[@jtm6671]

@@anoxicfiltrationplenums big thanks 👍

[@na1du]

How is the noise on this filter?

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

Air pumps make more noise than this filters does. And I’m using an Eheim air pump that is supposed to be one of the quieted air pumps out there.

[@iIiWARHEADiIi]

@@anoxicfiltrationplenums Eheim had old dedign of air pumps. The were almost similar to new one, but people tell that they were significantly more silent than new pumps. Same for Schego optimal. I have new one and DDR made, old one more silent. But comparing to Eheim, schego has low frequency noise which resonate with everything.

[@mauricematla1215]

Four times the price. OK but the thing is "value" is not really objectively asserted. But 2:19 in. From a technical vieuw. From a certain price point the quality that i even can make rises with cost but the quality does not go up as much as the cost does. So say i can make a average filter for 100 bucks. Improving 30 % cost for example 50 bucks. Then the next 10 % mightbalso be another 50, the next 5 perhaps 150 etc etc. So normaly the cost rises more and more for less and less improvement in terms of quality. And usually the 100 fold price product is not really 100 times better quality wise.

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

You’re absolutely right. For example a Rolex really shouldn’t cost $7000 or $8000 for the cheapest Rolex. It’s just because, if you want one that’s what you’re going to have to pay.

[@mauricematla1215]

@@anoxicfiltrationplenums Yes, but what i meant was in terms of production cost. My English i am afraid is lacking a bit. In terms of whatches i would say that normally . A whatch that cost 7000 too actually make is usually not 10 times better at being a whatch then one that would take 700. Like a 200 dollar 4 foot aquarium will not hold water and allow me too see what lives in it a factor 10 better then a 2000 one. Normally speaking.

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

@@mauricematla1215 thanks I get you. 👍

[@yankos_]

EVERYONE... These filters only have an internal capacity of 6L of media.... NO GOOD. Try and get a hold of something like a

[@30eesh]

ya dumb...you buy filters to suit the size of ya tank and the bio load tat you want handled....so you're supposed to size the filter to the tank size...or fix multiple filters to a larger tank...so don't go telling ppl not to buy something without explaining ya self...

[@chirpingbluebird]

YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG.. it cannot be 2.3Ltrs per hour.. i have used it and it does 2.3 in les than aminute..

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

I guess you didn’t watch the entire review did you?

[@NORIaquaCh]

I'm sure you meant 100V :)

[@anoxicfiltrationplenums]

Yes I did. 😂

[@Garnele]

You can get the ada filter on alibaba for like 30€

[@twiceasnice710]

don’t buy this filter for your bedroom. you cant sleep next to this filter!

[@dre8466]

how do you know? I think i want to buy one and put it in my bedroom but at the foot of my bed not next to it.

[@twiceasnice710]

@@dre8466 because i have one, and i really can‘t recommend it. buy a version 2 of the es-300 if it’s possible for your tank size, otherwise buy from a different brand than ada. i know they are beautiful, but it‘s not worth your sleep. sorry for the late answer.

[@annalee7403]

Now, that's how you do a review, folks.