Adam and Satan in the Qur'an (and Late Antiquity) | Dr. Gary Anderson and Dr. Gabriel Said Reynolds

This is a clip from an earlier interview with Dr. Gary Anderson on the figure of Adam in the Bible and the Qur'an (and between). In this clip we discuss the command to bow down to Adam in the Qur'an and the story's antecedents in Jewish and Christian literature. We also discuss the figure of Satan, the location of the Garden of Eden, and the expulsion.
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[@MuftiMasala]

Love this channel

[@atan9258]

“What prevented you from prostrating when I commanded you?” This is not only a question addressed to Iblees, rather, this is a question directed to every person who refuses to submit to Allah’s ﷻ command. What prevented you from getting up for Salat Al-Fajr? What prevented you from giving your Zakat? What prevented you from looking after those who you were obliged to look after? Etc. 14 3

[@profamir4828]

Excellent questions raised by Dr. Gabe

[@dilshadsardardeen]

The word Prostrate (ٱسْجُدُوا۟) appears in 9 places of that in five places (2:34, 7:11, 17:61, 18:50, 20:116) it is referring to Adams story, in one places (41:37) Allah says don't prostrate to sun or moon but prostate to Allah, & in 25:60 non-believers stating why we need to obey your order asking us to prostate to Allah? In two places (22:77& 53:62), prostration is mentioned for Allah. Note in all these 2 places the word prostate (ٱسْجُدُوا۟) is followed by Worship (وَٱعْبُدُوا۟). Making a clear difference between these two words in meaning. One of them (prostate) is purely an act and the other (worship) is an act that tied to a belief. If you are wondering how many places the word worship (وَٱعْبُدُوا۟) is mentioned 31 is the number, I counted it could be more if you count other variants of the word. On all of these 31 mentions, it's unequivocally stating worship Allah. Look at how the word Prostate is used in 2:58. It says enter the city prostrating. Clearl the context doesn't mean to say worship the city.

[@gr4707]

The Quran itself explains what this sajada/bow is for in Al-araf 12 and Sad 75. No muslim is grappling with this topic. I don’t know where this comes from. Also, Joseph brothers bowed to Joseph in the Quran. It isn’t worship bow.

[@shoaibbhat279]

And what is that explanation?

[@PastTruths]

Very interesting topic!

[@JamshidRowshan]

Best wishes

[@smrd2d14]

In a meaning that people misunderstood, which is descending, they thought that Adam descended from above, or let us say that he descended from heaven. Adam was on earth from the beginning... and I must assume that Adam’s earthly paradise was as high as the verse (2:265 "a garden on high ground")... because God said (2:36 "Go down")... and this is like (2:61 "go down to Egypt"), from which we understand that Sinai is geographically higher than Egypt... So descending in the verse may mean descending from a high place on earth (Sinai). To a low place on earth (Egypt)... And likewise (11:48 "O Noah, disembark in security from Us") because his ark was on the mountains or on a high (high ground)... Likewise, the Qur’an states that God wanted Adam (an origin) for the earth, as in the verse: (2:30 "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority.")... so the Qur’an states On (earth)... So why did the commentators and narrators place him in a heavenly paradise? This is a misunderstanding on the part of Ancient scholars because of their misunderstanding of the landing...and if you search in the Qur’an, you will not find any text that states that Adam was in heaven or in a heavenly paradise. So... This is a ready-made earthly paradise that God prepared specifically for Adam and his wife... It has all the various ready-made fruit trees, the rich fertile soil well-stocked with food, and abundant flowing water, and it is in a place with wonderful weather... and protected from harmful animals... meaning five stars... and the reason Because Adam is the first human being on earth and he will not bear the earth that we know... Likewise, he does not know or understand work, nor does he know how to hunt, plant, or build a house, nor does he know how to make clothes to cover him, for heat, or for cold... It is natural for God to create an earthly paradise for him. With full specifications until he gets used to it and understands it, then he goes out to the difficult terrain...but Adam was in a hurry and left early. 20:115 "And We had already taken a promise from Adam before, but he forgot; and We found not in him determination." 20:116 "And [mention] when We said to the angels, "Prostrate to Adam," and they prostrated, except Iblees; he refused." 20:117 "So We said, "O Adam, indeed this is an enemy to you and to your wife. Then let him not remove you from Paradise so you would suffer." 20:118 "Indeed, it is [promised] for you not to be hungry therein or be unclothed." 20:119 "And indeed, you will not be thirsty therein or be hot from the sun." 20:120 "Then Satan whispered to him; he said, "O Adam, shall I direct you to the tree of eternity and possession that will not deteriorate?"" 20:121 "And they [i.e., Adam and his wife] ate of it, and their private parts became apparent to them, and they began to fasten over themselves from the leaves of Paradise. And Adam disobeyed his Lord and erred." 20:122 "Then his Lord chose him and turned to him in forgiveness and guided [him]." Surah Taha [20:115-122] Also, I understand that Satan was an angel...but he was suffering from a serious psychological condition, which is arrogance...a condition from which most humans suffer...I do not think Satan wanted to be free...because he was already free...angels are free. ... Get out of your head the myth that angels are not free.

[@FunTimeGhz]

He was in Heaven. The dispute occurred explicitly in heaven. After that, Allah said get down from here, and for you on Earth a place for dwelling...etc He was clearly in heaven, then brought down to this planet called Earth. Was he in a place in heaven where the righteous will spend eternity or was he in another place in heaven but is not the place where the righteous will be ? The early had different opinions regarding that, but it has nothing to do with the fact that Adam was sent down from Heaven to planet Earth.

[@faisalhussain4022]

The word “Shaytan” is derived from the Arabic root “sh-T-n,” which means “to become distant.” , this is important to understand this Arabic meaning to interpret the verses of Quran. In Hebrew its "the opposer" or "the conspirator". so which argument we are standing with ?

[@hidir3532]

These videos certainly blow the fundamentalism out of one's faith...

[@hassmali1139]

Very interesting IPLIIIS He took a Name of Sheydan After he refused

[@thenun1846]

Its very fascinating seeing the correlation between the Islamic retelling of biblical stories. This seems like one of the many issues the quran authors got wrong. I can see some muslims that are upset at the facts but there is a significant problem where allah asks his creation to perform sujood to another creation but it's "out of respect" and not worship Thank you again for a brilliant presentation Dr Gabriel!

[@radwanabu-issa4350]

The realization of Adam and Eve of being naked and cover themselves is a crucial change and unique as all existing creatures don't cover themselves except for humans! Another crucial point that has been overlooked is "taklif", or that only humans and jinns (satan is one) are capable of disobeying Almighty but not the angels. These two point should be the key to understant the whole dialog presented in this video!

[@childofgod4862]

@radwamnabu My friend, Islam is false. Your Allah claims that NO Human or Jinns can make Quran like Quran of AlLah but in you read Surah "al Jinn" (Number 72) Even Jinns Making Quran So why did Allah forgot about that? Even in the chapter of al Nahl Ants are making quran. Thus Islam is false religion and is taking human beings into hellfire as it said in surah 19:71 and 72

[@user-sj6kh4tb9t]

@@childofgod4862😂😂 so when god related a certain story about his prophets then that means that the Quran isn’t from God 😂😂😂😂 what a lmao logic Try applying to the Bible

[@childofgod4862]

@@user-sj6kh4tb9t My friend, if you look my statement and your Allah's statement that there is no Much contradictions in Quran. So that proves, Allahfailed in his promise that No one can make Quran like him And also think about Ant is talking in your quran, that means your poor Allah does not know that, if some one speaks, he needs to have vocal cords, tongue, teeth and lips to make words which ant do not have. Ants are communicating with vibration and chemical. But who iwll teach today's science to your Allah?

[@user-sj6kh4tb9t]

@@childofgod4862 😂😂😂 Two mistakes First ants do communicate with each other using antennas Second the verse in the Quran does not necessarily mean speech with tongues Lastly your Bible claims rabbits ruminates and claims the snakes eat dirt

[@childofgod4862]

@@user-sj6kh4tb9t Myfriend, like your Allah, your brain cells are NOT working. Those antena have 3 fuctions > They allow ants to feel, smell, and communicate. but you fail to show me where is vocal cords, teeth, tongue lips which are important part of speaking words Don't jump on the Bible Do you know what your Quran says about the Bible? Go open your Quran surah 21:105 BEFORE THIS WE WROTE IN THE PSALSM AND THE MESSAGE (given to Moses) That means your Allah claims the authorship of the Bible and you spit on the Bible and find fault in the Bible of Allah? shame on you!

[@shinazajironoatmojo5576]

It is very interesting, the Qur'an provides an explanation of what is explained in the Bible which is not very clear about the relationship between God and humans, why is Satan asked to prostrate himself to humans? Why is the devil in Heaven before being told to come out first by God (QS. al-A'raf)? What's wrong with God suspending the devil? The most fundamental thing is that devils and angels are told to worship Allah even though on the one hand in the Qur'an, humans are asked not to worship other than Allah. From the incident, Angels and Devils were created first, as if they were paradoxical and contradictory? What is not in the podcast that I am commenting on is the reason that the Spirit was breathed into humans from God (QS. Sad 72) because there was a mandate from God before the creation of Adam to be His khalifatullah, while he was still in heaven, this is quite important (QS. al-Baqarah 30).

[@atan9258]

Allah put “ruh”, not “noor”. وَنَفَخۡتُ فِيۡهِ مِنۡ رُّوۡحِىۡ 15:29 This is the only place where Allah uses first person pronoun “I”, while everywhere else Allah uses other pronouns. (we, our, my, he, etc)

[@Dontcallmeapusok]

Well dr Gabriel did a very bad job saddenly representing the Islamic perspective of the story anyway even without the Islamic perspective yeah before the sharia of the prophet this types of sajdaa prostration are an act of respect in this story it’s an act of respect upon Gods new creation Adam who was the first insaan/human similar to Daniel 2:46 where it says he feel down and started to worship the king but ofcourse it isn’t an act of worship as upon God it is an act of Greeting/showing respect but for us Muslism with the prophet arriving with the final sharia this types of greetings/acts of showing respect are forbidden

[@TSS0Qk3n]

I'm really disappointed in the quality of this conversation. Many things missing that indicate the guest's poor grasp of the Quran. Firstly, the term used in the Quran when Adam & Eve are expelled, is "ahbituu" (descend). This is the same word used in 2:61 where God tells the Hebrews to "Ahbituu to Egypt" after they complain about the food. So clearly the term does not mean to descend from heaven, but to emigrate from a place of higher status to lower. Secondly, the guest never mentions the traditions from the earliest period of Islam to characterize the angels as forces of nature. There is a hadith that says each angel is assigned to an element of nature, such as the winds, mountains, etc. Muhammad Asad refers to this strand in Islamic thinking as 'satan as the eternal temper of mankind'. He describes the allegory of Adam as: "an allegory of human destiny. In his earlier state of innocence man was unaware of the existence of evil and, therefore, of the ever-present necessity of making a choice between the many possibilities of action and behaviour: in other words, he lived, like all other animals, in the light of his instincts alone." Thirdly, one of the most important differences between the Bible and Quran in the allegory of Adam, is that in the Bible God is presented as outraged by Satan, whereas in the Quran there are multiple verses that indicate that God had planned this all along, and God is never shown to show any anger or emotion towards Satan's refusal to bow down.

[@abdullahtahir9622]

Even in times of Joseph (Yusuf) and in his Sharia it was allowed to bow down. Other interpretation can be Bow Down for showing the superiority of man and their inferiority.

[@jansonvictordavies7073]

One story ...way the story different...[13/5 12.24] Janson Xl: Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala berfirman: فَلَمَّا قَضٰى مُوْسَى الْاَ جَلَ وَسَا رَ بِاَ هْلِهٖۤ اٰنَسَ مِنْ جَا نِبِ الطُّوْرِ نَا رًا ۚ قَا لَ لِاَ هْلِهِ امْكُثُوْۤا اِنِّيْۤ اٰنَسْتُ نَا رًا لَّعَلِّيْۤ اٰتِيْكُمْ مِّنْهَا بِخَبَرٍ اَوْ جَذْوَةٍ مِّنَ النَّا رِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَصْطَلُوْنَ fa lammaa qodhoo muusal-ajala wa saaro bi-ahlihiii aanasa ming jaanibith-thuuri naaroo, qoola li-ahlihimkusuuu inniii aanastu naarol-la'alliii aatiikum min-haa bikhobarin au jazwatim minan-naari la'allakum tashtholuun "Maka ketika Musa telah menyelesaikan waktu yang ditentukan itu dan dia berangkat dengan keluarganya, dia melihat api di lereng gunung. Dia berkata kepada keluarganya, "Tunggulah (di sini), sesungguhnya aku melihat api, mudah-mudahan aku dapat membawa suatu berita kepadamu dari (tempat) api itu atau (membawa) sepercik api, agar kamu dapat menghangatkan badan."" (QS. Al-Qasas 28: Ayat 29) * Via Al-Qur'an Indonesia quran-id.com [13/5 12.24] Janson Xl: Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala berfirman: اِذْ قَا لَ مُوْسٰى لِاَ هْلِهٖۤ اِنِّيْۤ اٰنَسْتُ نَا رًا ۗ سَاٰ تِيْكُمْ مِّنْهَا بِخَبَرٍ اَوْ اٰتِيْكُمْ بِشِهَا بٍ قَبَسٍ لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَصْطَلُوْنَ iz qoola muusaa li-ahlihiii inniii aanastu naaroo, sa-aatiikum min-haa bikhobarin au aatiikum bisyihaabing qobasil la'allakum tashtholuun "(Ingatlah) ketika Musa berkata kepada keluarganya, "Sungguh, aku melihat api. Aku akan membawa kabar tentang itu kepadamu, atau aku akan membawa suluh api (obor) kepadamu agar kamu dapat berdiang (menghangatkan badan dekat api)."" (QS. An-Naml 27: Ayat 7) * Via Al-Qur'an Indonesia quran-id.com

[@AlanValhaz]

So Adam is also a god according to Christians?

[@ThinkingOutLoud-uh5oe]

Interesting, thanks for the thoughtful conversation. I don't really think the story of Satan and Adam contradicts or challenges muslim theology, the way I see it it reinforces the notion of absolute submission to God, who has absolute authority as the ultimate creator. The focus is on whether Satan obeys God's command or chooses to oppose and assert his own desires as greater authority. Prostrating here would be an action of obedience and submission to God, not an action of submission to Adam. So the object of prostration (the action) is not equal to the object of submission/worship (the intention/motive). I think a common error in interpretation is conflation of action and purpose or meaning of action. I do not see the prostration/bowing as interchangeable with worshipping here. And I think this is an important point in islam(ie submission [to God]), is the constancy of God being object of our worship and whose command we ultimately follow regardless of who we physically 'bow down' to on Earth (boss, president, prophet etc... whatever leader we may follow). Just because I listen to you or follow your orders doesn't mean I worship you, because I follow a leader doesn't mean I revere him in place of God, but rather it could be bringing me closer to God, fulfilling steps towards my larger motives of worshipping God (e.g. by contributing good to society, maintaining order and peace, proving for your family, for others with less than you, etc...). I think what Satan also does is he assumes powers which can only belong to God, to determine of his own volition the hierarchy of God's creations and assert his own evaluation. This is what humans do too, we judge, we evaluate who's better, a superior creation, we create evaluations and hierarchies based on our own biased criteria that neglect the fact that we are all creations of God and God is ultimately the one who can appropriately evaluate and the one with ultimate knowledge and final say. Those who, like Satan does here, say I'm better because of my composition (body, skin color etc...), or I'm superior because I came before you (or our generation was so much better..). Sorry for the long text 👀

[@user-gz8hx5tp1l]

If the creator raised you up to him and told you to bow to someone else you do it you do what your creator told you to do, if you're in a dream

[@stevesmith4901]

I've seen this video before. Are you rehashing old videos?

[@kamarudinhj.dolmoin8578]

Exploring the Quran ~and the bible~. Allah did NOT ask the angels to worship Adam. Allah asked the angels to bow to Adam out of respect.

[@Zazamarkle]

Why people act like there are only 3 religions in whole entire world and its history… people stuck with these and never looks the other ones

[@atifbangash]

In the Quran, Satan says that Adam is made out of clay and I am from fire, so the whole concept of clothing Adam with human skin on earth contradicts that notion here. It's essentially a test of humanity, like Good Cop, Bad Cop.

[@childofgod4862]

@atif My friend, Allah of Quran has poor memory One place he says, He has created Adam from Mud surah 55:14 and other place he says from Clay in surah 6:2. Thus Allah is very forgetfull person!

[@jamalbaraja6130]

Why do you mis-interpret the correct meaning of the verses. The bowing to Adam was a bow of respect and recognition of God's creation of Adam as you can see in the context of the verses. IT WAS NOT A BOW OF WORSHIP.

[@tjbergren]

Love the interview! The only comment/question I would have is it appears he assumes the 7th century prophet heard Judeo-Christian narratives and incorporated them into the Quran rather than the Abbasids redacting the same to actual historical figure(s) or to a synthesized figure that suited a new religio-social construct?

[@justice70567]

Abbasids? Are you serious

[@tjbergren]

@@justice70567 Quite.

[@justice70567]

@@tjbergren Well i think thats ridicilous.

[@tjbergren]

@@justice70567I’d ask why but you’ve revealed an intellectual prejudice against such a possibility so I’ll move on.

[@justice70567]

@@tjbergren Just giving my thoughts🫠

[@atan9258]

Muslims have no problems with those verses.You make it so.Shirk means to not obey Allah’s command and see another being worthy of commanding.Imam Sadiq: Indeed whoever who prostrates by the command of Allah has prostrated to (worshiped) Allah. Their prostration was for Allah when it was commanded by Allah.Imam Ali: Their prostration was not a prostration of obedience, it wasn't that they are worshiping Adam and not Allah, rather it was their recognition of his virtue. With the exact same logic, we prostrating towards a Ka’ba which is a building also becomes shirk, so the premise is incorrect. At the same time, prostrating towards Ka’ba with the intention of worship some other entity is considered shirk!

[@abuukarata9653]

I dont think is Jerusalem rather than in africa

[@ahmedye00]

It is called bowing of TAZEEM not worshipping

[@atan9258]

Prophet Adam and the Shaytan Adam (peace be upon him) and Shaytan both made mistakes. But one is going to be rewarded and the other punished. Can anyone tell me the mistake that Adam (peace be upon him) and Hawa made? Yes! They ate from a tree that Allah ﷻ told them not to eat from. What did they do after they made a mistake? They asked Allah ﷻ to forgive them. They said: “Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers," (7:23). Alhamdulillah, Allah ﷻ accepted their tawba (repentance) and forgave them. What sin did the Shaytan commit? Yes, he refused to bow down to Adam (peace be upon him) even though Allah ﷻ commanded him to do so. When Allah ﷻ asked him why he refused to bow down, Shaytan responded by saying: I am better than him. You created me from fire and you created him from clay (Surat al Araaf, aya 12). What do we call someone who thinks they are better than someone else because of their skin color, or the language they speak? Did Shaytan ask Allah ﷻ to forgive him? No, instead he promises that he will try his very best to lead those that believe in Allah ﷻ on the wrong path. What trait is that called- when you know you did something wrong but you refuse to ask for forgiveness? Shaytan is arrogant in front of Allah ﷻ, while Prophet Adam (peace be upon him) knows that every blessing he has is due to Allah’s ﷻ generosity. Do you see the difference between the two? As long as we continue coming back to Allah ﷻ, we need to have firm faith that Allah ﷻ will forgive us. Let’s read this beautiful Hadith Qudsi together: قَالَ اللهُ تَعَالَى : يَا ابْنَ ادَمَ ، إِنَّكَ مَا دَعَوْتََنِي وَرَجَوْتَنِي ، غَفَرْتُ لَكَ عَلَى مَا كَانَ مِنْكَ وَلَا أُبالِي . يا ابْنَ ادَمَ :لَوْ بَلَغَتْ ذُنُوبُكَ عَنانَ السَّماءِ ثُم اسْتَغْفَرْتَني ، غَفَرْتُ لَكَ . يَا ابْنَ ادَمَ : إِنَّكَ لَوْ أَتَيْتَنِي بِقُرَابِ الأَرْضِ خَطَايا ثُمَّ لَقِيتَني لَا تُشْرِكُ بِي شَيْأً ، لَأَتيْتُكَ بِقُرَابِها مَغْفِرَةً “I heard the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ say: Allah the Almighty has said: "O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and ask of Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds of the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, were you to come to Me with sins nearly as great as the earth and were you then to face Me, ascribing no partner to Me, I would bring you forgiveness nearly as great as it." So let’s never lose hope in the mercy of Allah ﷻ and remember to turn back to Him when we sin or make mistakes!

[@jansonvictordavies7073]

Sunan Ibn Majah 952 It was narrated from ‘Abdullah bin Samit from Abu Dharr, that the Prophet (saw) said: “The prayer is severed by a woman, a donkey, and a black dog, if there is not something like the handle of a saddle in front of a man.” I (‘Abdullah) said: “What is wrong with a black dog and not a red one?” He (Abu Dharr) said: ‘I asked the Messenger of Allah (saw) the same question, and he said: “The black dog is a Shaitan (satan).” حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ بَشَّارٍ، حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ، عَنْ حُمَيْدِ بْنِ هِلاَلٍ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ الصَّامِتِ، عَنْ أَبِي ذَرٍّ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ قَالَ ‏"‏ يَقْطَعُ الصَّلاَةَ إِذَا لَمْ يَكُنْ بَيْنَ يَدَىِ الرَّجُلِ مِثْلُ مُؤْخِرَةِ الرَّحْلِ الْمَرْأَةُ وَالْحِمَارُ وَالْكَلْبُ الأَسْوَدُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ قُلْتُ مَا بَالُ الأَسْوَدِ مِنَ الأَحْمَرِ فَقَالَ سَأَلْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ كَمَا سَأَلْتَنِي فَقَالَ ‏"‏ الْكَلْبُ الأَسْوَدُ شَيْطَانٌ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ Grade: Sahih (Darussalam) Reference : Sunan Ibn Majah 952 In-book reference : Book 5, Hadith 150 English translation : Vol. 1, Book 5, Hadith 952 Are you believe that ?

[@jawhardawood7667]

A more in-depth treatment of the Qur’anic text and the story of Adam and Iblis shows that it is much more complex than a simple copying of oral Jewish and Christian traditions that circulated in Mecca of the seventh century. The seven episodes of the Adam and Iblis story in the Qur’an are crafted and embedded in every surah with a striking degree of unique linguistic cohesion. So unique that it cannot have been the product of a simple imitation of an oral tradition. To get more insights into the structure of the Qur’an, watch this video in Arabic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZrWY42Ff6qgY6csi=UtdWAx1m4RrcWk0n

[@NoToBusinessCasual]

This is why NEVER take word of a non-Muslim on explanation of Quran. They do a horrible job even when they sincerely want to do justice.

[@thenun1846]

Yea those non Muslims are interested in facts and not sugar costing clear issues! How could they!

[@kakabawani4212]

Hi Quran says to Angel bow down to Adam does not mean prostrat it means Almighty is saying to Angels i will let Him Govern The Earth and you will not interfere in his matters and they Obey Almighty. But Ibless did not He said you created me from fire and Adam you created from mud .Note when Almighty created The Earth It Was ball of Fire than HE put Earth crust on It and He Created Human and made him capable to create his own offsping and at one point He chose two individuals from them they were Adam and His Wife and GOD said to Them Live in this Garden and Eat Any Place you wish But do not go close to That tree otherwise you will be transgresser Note it was not The fruit nor the knowledge tree it was their Sexual desire which Satan use as tools to Decieve them and they Forgot The command of Almighty for little while and once they got out of this sitution they Ask Almighty to Forgive them and Almighty forgave them and Earth will be your place . Every thing Happen on Earth it was not real Heaven . and Heaven in Arabic means Beautiful Garden. more info comment .in very desent word Almighty use The word tree .Women are The tree to Bring us babies Salam

[@MohammadFaisalSaleem]

This is not a sajda of worship. Dr. Gabrielle, you should be aware of this much at least. To not explain the Muslim understanding here is a dishonest presentation, especially when you are repeatedly emphasizing how the events are contrary to the Islamic Monotheistic message.

[@fadiljelin7297]

I agree with your point. We know from the Hadith about “sajda of obedience”, describing relations between wife & husband, children and mothers, etc. Dr. Reynolds seems to focus more on some fringe esoteric sufi interpretations involving tawhid & shaytan.

[@ilyasmusa4196]

Can you make sajda to another person without that act being considered unislamic?

[@MohammadFaisalSaleem]

@@fadiljelin7297 yes. To be honest, I want to be respectful to the guy but when you do things like this, I question intent.

[@MohammadFaisalSaleem]

@@ilyasmusa4196 refer surah Yusuf for more clarity. Also, do you understand the concept of progressive revelation? To respond to your specific question, no I cannot do it to any other than Allah.

[@justice70567]

​@@ilyasmusa4196 Depends on the intention

[@radwanabu-issa4350]

It is odd that the "scholar" kept emphasizing how Muhamnad used jewish and christian sources but without any proof or even evidence as actually history tells us that the prophet was not a person who knew the Jewish or Christian scripture and additionally his worst enemies who knew him well from his own tribe never accused him of copying from others!

[@nikobellic9140]

in the quran his enemies says that he copied from others actually...

[@user-sj6kh4tb9t]

@@nikobellic9140 Yeah they accused him of taking from two Syriac children Slaves, if you want to believe that two children can know all of that Jewish and Christian extra biblical sources then by all the means go ahead and sink to that level Yet we know that they themselves stopped accusing him of such a thing later looking at how ridiculous the claim is

[@torotorotaxi5367]

@@user-sj6kh4tb9tthis is the Islamic tradition which came into its final form only in mid 9th century These story have no historical relevance Both the quranic authors and its audience were highly familiar with Syriac traditions So the quranic rasm is related to a christianized environment

[@user-sj6kh4tb9t]

@@torotorotaxi5367 Nope this is a tradition going back to one of the companions attested in multiple later sources in the 8th century like magazi musa ibn uqba and tarot ibn karate which Al tabari used later As for your assumption it needs proof the context of the Quran describes people who did not know this stories Your logic is that since they were presented then they must have known it which is begging the question We have no evidence from literally nor non literary sources of what you are saying Mecca was a seventh century pagan city with two converts to Christianity ( newly converts ) and a bunch of young abasinian and Syriac slaves that’s it No Jewish presence nor any Christian church or organization in Hejaz

[@torotorotaxi5367]

@@user-sj6kh4tb9t You correctly said that the earliest sources dated from the mid 8th century which like the time al zuhri worked Generally there were s no evidence those stories go back to a companion Rather appears that these stories were later on back projected onto supposed companions. About the second point you raised There were no pagans in Arabia already since the 6th century as rock inscription clearly explain And mekka as it is presented by Islam does not appear anywhere before the 8th century itself So the quranic rasm (not the textus receptus) has an homiletic style which clearly implies that both the audience and the reader were educated in those stories Now the stories exist like in the life of Adam and Eve But not only like the seven sleepers The protogospels The pseudo gospels The homilies of narsai and other Syriac preachers And many more The audience was exposed to these stories and could easily understand the rasm allusions So in short The Quranic rasm makes sense once it is presented in its christianized environment ( which of course does not exclude other ideas ) And the Muhammad of Quranic rasm matches better a ln Arabic Syriac context like 6th century Syria Iraq

[@santhiramorgan8329]

God commands the angels to bow down not Satan, doesn't He?

[@Skullman367]

I think at least as far as the Quran is concerned, Satan is an outsider figure, a jinn, who’s allowed to sit, intermingle, and possibly deliberate with the angels. From this perspective, it might be that the god of the Quran has viewed him as being of low status, eliciting an inclusion in the command of prostration without an explicit mention of him.

[@childofgod4862]

According to your Quran, Bowing down otherthan Allah is haram and yet AlLah forgot that thing when he said to angels bow down to Adam.

[@phrama22]

this guy is trivial , talking about Islam as if it is copy paste from jewish old books , . this is sucks .

[@withink5187]

Talking about the prophets as a bunch of sibling squabbling among each others is consistent with the lies about them in your Bible. Did God command the angels: Worship Adam. No! It was bow down. Just like in the story of Joseph, his brothers, father and mother bow down to him. And this the first I hear about the ‘second Adam’ term but you church followers are the best at inventing non sensical terms that wouldn’t be out of place in a bad comic book.