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@chuttleberry113 жыл бұрын
Of all golf lessons on you tube I wish I found you guys sooner the best by far can you do a video for people who play opposite of dominant hand and advantages and disadvantages that brings haven't seen anyone do this yet thanks
@dannyk50843 жыл бұрын
So what is the drill for this action and what are you supposed to "feel" ?
@sidharthasharathram49203 жыл бұрын
Will be good if you can show the swing of an amteur with that same clock setup to see the difference. Great video!
@chaddy-me-boy82993 жыл бұрын
I like this suggestion: even though I think we all get being lined up at the bottom on your front leg, For me N=1 this video with Phil and the guys is one that has helped me a lot, yes I’m left handed, visually it does help.
@djembeia3 жыл бұрын
The visual sand commentary that you are providing in this post. Have been incredibly helpful to understanding the bottom of the golf swing. There is so much conflicting information out there. But to see it in 3D its undeniable what is going on. Thanks for clearing up so much of the confusion and conflict.
@laithhasoon2647 Жыл бұрын
Gents, this is by far one of my all time favorite videos which I have applied religiously to my practice to have those educated hands work more efficiently. Quick update to let you know that I have gained 12-15 yards in all my clubs. And I have added over 30 yards to my driver. I went from 270-275 to hitting a solid 310 yards driver on pinehurst course #4. Thank you fellas
@samanthagames10233 жыл бұрын
The clip shows Phil's whole body turning until his hands meet his trail leg then everything stops apart from his club - ie. his wrists do all of the work in delivering the club to the ball with no visual inclination of a body turn until way past contact. This is exactly the opposite of conventional teaching, which says something along the lines of "Use your arms to get the club level with your trail thigh, then turn through the ball". Fascinating. Thanks very much.
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@samanthagames10233 жыл бұрын
Pardon?????????
@roadfert3 жыл бұрын
Gentleman this has to be one of your best videos to date! I too am a Certified Member of the “lag and drag” Society and have been attempting to NOT renew my membership! Your BB concept makes perfect sense as I am a 5.0 in tennis 🎾 I can tell you that while I do lag the racquet coming into the ball and at contact I certainly release the damn thing on the follow through. When I first started playing golf I broke 80 within 6 months of picking up a club and was told I had some “talent” so I went for some instruction. All I can say is that I kind of got messed up for years chasing lag. This video clarifies so much and gives me a sense of freedom again knowing I can and do have to let the club go at some point! Keep up the great work gents as I can confidently say you guys are the “why” in a sea of “how”! 👊🏻
@2putts2win3 жыл бұрын
As a pga life member, I find this video in particular the most useful video for us “older” guys. It’s amazing how I continue to fall into delofting the club for way too long through the downswing. Please show more information on this position, but how the hip position or weight distribution influences how this hand and club head position.
@colinwhitlock13 жыл бұрын
Probably the best golf tuition video I've seen yet. Fantastic forensic examination of the crucial stage of the swing. I think most of us instinctively try to line up the shaft and left arm at impact rather than just after as shown here.
@coburn_karma3 жыл бұрын
If this was taught to me 30 years ago, I would've enjoyed playing more. I was stuck with the 80's style swing which deteriorated with harder arm swinging. Pendulum motion, like a grandfather clock is what I've learned from your videos to stop scooping. I really enjoy and appreciate your lessons.
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
I'm there with you. Wish I could turn back the clock and get a "do over" on a few things I spent years doing only now trying to undo them lol
@ST-xg3gy3 жыл бұрын
I believe Johnny Miller talks about the "wall". So imagine, at about impact for a right hander, the left side runs into a wall and the hands then release the club?
@ST-xg3gy3 жыл бұрын
Golf is difficult. Shot a record (for me) 42 at a well known difficult course. Lost my swing yesterday.
@AGCampagna3 жыл бұрын
This is where all golf swing should begin. Great job guys
@ILB3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Let's go! GREAT breakdown. Incredible depth guys.
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother 🙏🏻👊
@danacopeland62573 жыл бұрын
Nice to see my other favorite KZbin channel on here as well!!
@chrischampion7273 жыл бұрын
Great video! Loved the clock face visual. One thing that really caught my eye is that knowing each “tick” on the clock face represents 6 degrees, that most of these guys appear to have around 12 degrees of shaft lean at impact. That’s a lot less than I would have expected. You guys continue to “Hit Hellacious Seeds” with your content!
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Great catch! IIRC the range is around 8-10 degrees. What would you have guessed it was?
@chrischampion7273 жыл бұрын
Based on what you see from some online instructors that preach holding lag angles you would think it should be twice that. 😉
@timnickert93083 жыл бұрын
Best video yet. I kept hitting them very high and short left (left hander here) while trying to “hold lag” while not realizing that “holding lag” was exactly what was causing my face to be left wide open. After hearing a interview with Rory where he says he’ll think about returning his grip pointing at his belt to help with ball striking, I decided to try it and I’m striking he ball much better. BUT this video TOTALLY put that “feel” in perspective!! Thanks guys!!
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching :)
@johnf80003 жыл бұрын
The BB in the shaft analogy is a great one !
@1upadventures3 жыл бұрын
You thinking what I’m thinking?? Let’s get a patent on something before they do! 😂
@Ron283 жыл бұрын
Vert interesting. Mike Austin taught this position at impact ("Everything lines up," he said). Jimmy Ballard taught the same post impact position ("maintain the triangle," he said).
@jacobcgustafson3 жыл бұрын
This is another incredible breakdown. You two do such an amazing job of explaining these concepts and this one especially makes so much sense. I myself have always been a chronic “holder” and it is a part of my game that I have never been able to fix. When I don’t “hold” shaft angle, wrist set, etc. throughout the swing my backswing becomes extremely long and well past parallel for even a 58 degree wedge. Is there an AMG video or a video from another coach out there that anyone knows of that might be able to help me with this issue? I know it may be difficult without actually looking at my swing but it can’t hurt to ask! :) 🤷🏻♂️
@athleticmotiongolf.63123 жыл бұрын
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@andyhonnold39193 жыл бұрын
What a nice analysis - reinforces earlier lessons
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
🙏
@timothypollock83583 жыл бұрын
A release like this is a symptom rather than a cause. If the two sides of the body rotate symmetrically about the rotional center of the swing then a free release of the arms can occur. Such a symmetrical rotation will almost always have the trail side moving out towards the target line somewhat before quickly turning (weight move toward the toe of the trail foot and then begins to move more along the toe line) so that the arms can swing parallel to the target line. As the trail side moves out and around, the weight must quickly be thrown to the lead side (outside of the lead foot) while rotation continues and the head stays back in order for optimal compression to occur. If this weight shift does not occur at the right time, the arms will not be able to extend through impact with a targetward enough low point of the clubhead to achieve a compressive strike (especially with irons, but will all clubs). Many people do not rotate in such a manner as to have the opportunity for symmetry coming in to the ball. A big part of this is alignment of the two halves of the body especially as the halfway down point is reached. Generally all good players have the knees roughly parallel to the target line at this point and then symmetry of rotation continues from there trail side toward TL and towards target and lead side away from TL and away from target. Once rotational symmetry is achieved, the swing becomes much, much easier but without it solid compressive impact with significant speed is virtually unobtainable. Mickelson has great rotation but his swing is unusual in that he 1) drops his lead side in towards the ball (not true hip rotation since trail hip barely moves back), 2) has massive lead arm lift after backswing rotation has ended (this is how he achieves so much apparent wrist cock), 3) turns his "shirt buttons" toward the rear of his body which few tour pros do 4) approaches ball with clubhead way open (this is due to nos. 2 and 3) 5) holds his hips back (less open) in the early and mid downswing (due to everything previously mentioned) which is more evident with the driver because of a much longer swing. 6) has tremendous hand flip through impact due to everything else done earlier. Nevertheless, his rotation is excellent which allows him to time all of these elements well (especially with the shorter iron swing) allowing him great ball striking. The symmetry and rotation that I have described is the only possible "cause" of what you are showing because one ends up essentially "throwing" the club through impact which creates the delayed alignment of the shaft with the rotational center.
@RC.Time-Crawlers3 жыл бұрын
Enjoying the channel 👍 As being one of the 99%, I'm someone who has spent YEARS trying to clear my hips. From what I can see, clearing the hips is a huge over exaggerated suggestion given by many instructors, probably 99%. As for each golfer you just showed give or take the leading front thigh had maybe a few degrees of turn but for the most part both thighs were facing the viewer. By no means did I ever see any of those images with an exaggerating twisting of the hips in order to clear the swing path.🤔 Thanks again for sharing your insights.
@bertpainter83852 жыл бұрын
In this video I noticed that also. Yet when I watch professionals swings in actually videos, I do see many pros clearing the hips 30 to 45 degrees. Rory especially clears his hips quite a bit at impact.
@bruceallen38583 жыл бұрын
BESTGOLFPORNVIDEOEVER!!!
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
👊😄
@shawnlight24833 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video on hand & club path post impact from down-the-line view. Just saying. You guys are great!
@bertpainter83852 жыл бұрын
The answer to your question is what many were hoping for in this video. I think many know and have seen where the shaft lean is relative to ball contact and then after contact how the front arm and shaft line up with the front leg. But how many can actually get to that position with a full swing. Easier to do in half swings without releasing the hands during impact. Not so easy with a full swing. Usually resort back to what we always do.
@demzunoplayer3 жыл бұрын
Also shaft flex is delofting and helping to create compression.
@krhoden823 жыл бұрын
How important is getting the grip torqued early and making that ulnar deviation move to allowing this release to happen? Seems like getting that right wrist extended, with palm away from target on the down swing is key to getting the hands to whip the club through impact with any kind of stable face.
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Great comment and exactly right👊
@rogerbreshears89763 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, great content and analysis. Also, nice to see Phil practicing at a range that looks like one I might go to. Complete with mats. 😀
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Haha so true. That was the most surprising part of that video😂
@1upadventures3 жыл бұрын
The first thing I noticed too! Like he pulled off the road at Andy’s golf range to hit a few.
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
@@1upadventures 😂
@1upadventures3 жыл бұрын
@@AthleticMotionGolf Its like something he did after a few cocktails.
@Sir_Godz3 жыл бұрын
Can you guys do your gears magic on the stinger shot?
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see! Scott Stallings has one of the more impressive stingers on Tour. Maybe we'll have him hit us one next time he's in.
@crowman27413 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! Shaun - at what clock position is the shaft when the BB hits the end of the shaft with maximum force? 5 o"clock?
@justinc90533 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal work men! Love seeing data driven videos like this. This is the exact thing my son and I are currently working on.
@stephenwilde26313 жыл бұрын
Hip movement up and down. Hi would you please make a video filmed from the front or rear, showing the leg vertical force. Thank you.
@OpaKnows3 жыл бұрын
Another great visual illustration of proper width and leverage in the golf swing. Brilliant, boys. It’s called a release for a reason, right? You release it, you let it go. Also, I’m not exactly a math genius, but according to my calculations, every minute on the clock should represent 6 degrees of rotation. Just about every one of those guys you showed were lined up at around 30 degrees past vertical. Cool stuff.
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Exactly right! Can we borrow😊 “release for a reason?”
@OpaKnows3 жыл бұрын
@@AthleticMotionGolf Yah man. I might have heard it somewhere, but it’s just as true. Read my minutes/degrees comment?
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
@@OpaKnows you’re pretty spot on with the degrees comment too🤓
@golfdoc19503 жыл бұрын
The moment of inertia of the club increases when it’s lined up like that: shaft plus arm. Massive amount of energy. Trying to hold shaft lean only decreases the energy. The problem of course is that it happens in a very brief interval. The best players can accomplish it. The rest of us, not so much.
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
That’s why this is something the average can do, because the time interval is so small and it doesn’t require much conscious thought. BUT it first has to start with the idea of not trying to hold the lag... a big hurdle for many who tried to that for so long.
@caseyb53183 жыл бұрын
From shaft parallel to impact to the 5 o’clock position, how much has the trail shoulder moved (average)? And is the trail shoulder moving down towards the target line or another direction? And the trail hip from the same positions? Video potential.?.
@ST-xg3gy3 жыл бұрын
Great question!
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Great question. Don't have the numbers in front of me, but don't mind looking for you. It would make for a good video topic👊
@brandonjohnson16973 жыл бұрын
You guys are great for the game. I think I’ve listened to every podcast as well. Awesome stuff. It’s too bad we can’t get our hands on some AMG hats though...😎
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Shoot an email to support@athleticmotiongolf.com and we’ll get you the details to have one sent out👍
@mjm10123 жыл бұрын
My thought is he closed his eyes before each shot to "play better" lol😜⛳👀👏 Great video btw👍🤙🌈✨
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
😂🙈
@Klubbverkstan3 жыл бұрын
I agree that what you suggest will give you more speed than if you intend to hold your wrist angle through impact. But would it not be beneficial to try to hold the angle through impact at least with mid and short irons to make the clubface square or close to square longer than if you intend to throw the clubface at the ball. The reason I think the face is square longer when you try to hold your wrist angle is that it seems to force you to clear the left hip better. Your thoughts on this?
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
No 😊 The hat always sounds good in theory but in practice it falls apart. If holding the face square a good idea or even possible, you’d see it at the highest levels with the most at steak.
@adamauger13 жыл бұрын
Love the message guys.
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@cadewallace201113 жыл бұрын
Is the ball position in these videos accurate? It is more forward than I would typically put it so maybe I should look into that.
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@rowdyroddy5193 жыл бұрын
I like his foot action here. Trail foot heel kept down until impact.
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@DASH1ful3 жыл бұрын
with most tour players you wouldn't be able to see the lead side of the neck at impact. and, it may be that phil is right eye dominant. and, this may be why he holds his head in this position to get his right eye over the ball at impact. bobby jones was very much the right hand equivalent. the lead hand presses against the lead side of the club, thru the hitting area, to get the hands, and the butt end of the grip, to point back at the body thru the ball
@chaddy-me-boy82993 жыл бұрын
I would assume when Phil’s hands are parallel on his back thigh, he just uncocks depending on his grip, that he may NOT have to manipulate the club or his wrists?
@bertpainter83852 жыл бұрын
I think many know and have seen where the shaft lean is relative to ball contact and then after contact how the front arm and shaft line up with the front leg. But how many can actually get to that position with a full swing. Easier to do in half swings without releasing the hands during impact. Not so easy with a full swing. Usually resort back to what we always do. Seeing some drill/s would have been the ticket with this video.
@AthleticMotionGolf2 жыл бұрын
Checkout our most recent video for the drill👍
@demzunoplayer3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis.
@stevebeskid43983 жыл бұрын
Great stuff as always!
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻👊
@1_pieceofwork3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Which one of your courses is the best to start working on getting to these positions?
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
This would be covered in our Swing System as part of our AMG+ subscription. Here's a link if you'd like the details athleticmotiongolf.com/amg-plus/
@brandon909able3 жыл бұрын
What about Tommy Fleetwood? Wouldn’t they be impaled by the TRS?
@markbarlow99553 жыл бұрын
Is the shaft pointing at the mid body post impact predominantly caused by the right wrist flattening/left wrist hinging? Or a supination of the left (forearm? Or a bit of both? Thanks
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Good question. It’s a combo of both. The precise ratio would depend a lot on strength of grip at the start👍
@markbarlow99553 жыл бұрын
@@AthleticMotionGolf Great, thanks. Makes sense.
@geoff_vadar3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting hand/thigh positions at impact do vary, also the strikers you showed all continued to rotate the hands/club face whereas the bombers much less??
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the “look” of that rotation can be attributed to impacts location on the face.
@geoff_vadar3 жыл бұрын
@@AthleticMotionGolf clay Ballard and others talk about continuing though the target line after impact, the right hand rolling over the top right after impact seems to Assitant in carrying the momentum down the target line and releasing properly, like I mentioned it seems the strikers get to this quickly?
@per_growth3 жыл бұрын
Can you do one for this with the driver? Thanks! very insightful!
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! This would apply to driver as well👍
@jasonbreding79053 жыл бұрын
Tips to do this and stop flipping at impact and hooking the ball
@k...58533 жыл бұрын
Would love to know if the angle made when the shaft is pointing back at the body (relative to the ground) is consistent with the direction of the lead leg's ground force
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
What a great question! The angles are close. There's a bit of a difference because of the anchoring point of the foot/ground, but they are both angle back.
@vslentineforniles62183 жыл бұрын
This. I'm working with my coach to speed up the posting of the left leg, when I get it right my release is so much more like in this video. I'm now rehearsing getting from that 6 o clock to 5 o clock shaft position as fast as I can. I LOVE AMG content. Amongst the best out there. Thanks you guys for showing facts not opinions.
@bobsofia683 жыл бұрын
Snap that whip when you reach the back hip
@chaddy-me-boy82993 жыл бұрын
Being left handed, how many think this swing video of Phil looks pretty simple? How many may over do it? I wonder if Phil in this video is starting to turn his wrists at the top to square, it doesn’t look like it, but he gets square.
@detlefstronk94793 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rmf44993 жыл бұрын
Wow, were ready for a drill!
@ppcnaTX3 жыл бұрын
I've heard a few times from different ppl that that shaft should actually be starting up at contact - I don't see how that's possible, could you explain sometime?
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
It’s more the handle/grip end that is slightly moving up through impact. We can certainly do a video on why and how that happens👍
@jcee6886 Жыл бұрын
I always felt uncomfortable holding on to it.
@AthleticMotionGolf Жыл бұрын
Trust those instincts👊
@nelsonjames12723 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@hansidelk66043 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what Malaska says as well. You have to release the club at some point, all the best players do it.
@highsnburgers48623 жыл бұрын
Speaking of "Mikes" Mike Austin deserves the real applause on this, since he emphasized this even more and hit like a bazooka. Malaska will get you to stay in bounds, but not over the back net at the range.
@hansidelk66043 жыл бұрын
@@highsnburgers4862 nah, Malaska method creates a lot of speed as well. But yes, I actually thought of Mike Austin as well, although his method is a little too "hang back" for me.
@highsnburgers48623 жыл бұрын
@@hansidelk6604 You get more air time with Austin's method, but he didn't hang back his weight transfer at all - just kept his head back at center vs his hips - full weight to left side at the hit.
@hansidelk66043 жыл бұрын
@@highsnburgers4862 nah, not true, if you look at the best players right after impact, the upper body is on top of the lower body. You dont see that with Austin. Thats the hang back Im talking about. Can it create extra speed, maybe a little, but you loose it in accuracy.
@highsnburgers48623 жыл бұрын
@@hansidelk6604Not true, my ass! Actually they all frame the ball at impact with the center of pelvis forward and the center of the shoulder line behind the ball. Watch Austin at slow speed during a full-speed swing. His cg is forward and he hits with body weight. I know his method works well. Believe what ever you want.
@graemefinlayson20323 жыл бұрын
Do you have Jim Furyk in the data base?
@swisstrader3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Just wish they would have juxtaposed against amateur swings
@BenzeneHex573 жыл бұрын
How does one achieve these positions.
@riellymorton2 жыл бұрын
What is the point of keeping the 3d models anonymous?
@halwal243 жыл бұрын
Does hitting an impact bag help with this move?
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
We'll use an impact bag in lessons to help the golfer feel the "line up" portion of the release. Great question!
@chrish47233 жыл бұрын
I'm a 13. I don't want to avoid these positions :D I just cant achieve them, lol. would love to see those gears from the top to see the club travel from when the hands are at the trail leg through the lead leg, to see what the club and hands are doing. Also, how can I get my video in front of you guys, I can't stop flipping and I think it's due to the path that my hands are traveling toward the ball. Thanks for your videos! Love the gears swings.
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Head over to athleticmotiongolf.com/iLessons and put your name on the list. We’ll email you as soon as new spots become available. Would be happy to help you get that flip out of there👍
@SweatrooTV3 жыл бұрын
Y’all broke it down in depth but I don’t feel like I know how to incorporate this into my swing. Basically there is no drill, just swing like Phil.
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
That was your takeaway?
@forrestgardener89063 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in seeing a few not so good golfers analysed this way.
@athleticmotiongolf.63123 жыл бұрын
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@andrefischer52593 жыл бұрын
Some drills pleeease !
@MrMikeRodriguez3 жыл бұрын
But how do I do it!? 😛
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Like these guys 😉
@MrMikeRodriguez3 жыл бұрын
@@AthleticMotionGolf 🤯
@billfly21862 жыл бұрын
Phil does this easy because his wrists are loose and supple and he's not forcing anything.
@JG-pm2wn3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t look like his hips are particularly active
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
The hips are slowing down at the point in the swing, and in this small window of time, you won't see much movement from them. Good catch!
@ken1skull2 жыл бұрын
Why can’t you name the pros?
@AthleticMotionGolf2 жыл бұрын
We can but choose not to for a few reasons.
@jamesdavis55173 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@athleticmotiongolf.63123 жыл бұрын
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@mr.javier67903 жыл бұрын
What! No drills. 😥
@MarkSmithhhh2 жыл бұрын
Shaft
@C020453 жыл бұрын
Love everything you do EXCEPT, "secrets". Using the term as an attention grabber is so overdone. I can find the same "secret" revealed by generations of coaches! , Give it a rest and rely on your talent for clear explanation and illustration
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, and we appreciate what you’re saying, but we’ll use it when applicable. Based on seeing what golfers try to do every day, it very much applies to this topic.