Addams Family 2 And Why I don't Care for it

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[@SarcasticChorus]

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[@youtubestudiosucks978]

I like trees

[@maceofreeman6899]

Pen is

[@YungandRekless545]

Climate change had been giving me some, let's say dark thoughts for the past few months. So thanks for using your platform to at least bring awareness to the crisis.

[@chellastation]

I will just watch the Addams black and white show, the 1990's cartoon and the two good live action movies. I honestly wish this 3D animated Addams would just die. I think that is how the Addams would like to go.

[@thezenlu]

Everything you said about this money is correct except IT'S NOT MADE BY SONY, IT'S A MGM/BRON MOVIE...

[@KatBlaque]

The only defense of the designs I have is that they actually nailed the appearance of the characters in the original comic strip, but most fans of the series aren't familiar with it so it doesn't register.

[@mentallyillfinger]

plus, 2d drawings and 3d designs are very hard to make work... this... obviously doesn't. At least it just DOESN'T look finished, y'know?

[@SarcasticChorus]

Yeah, I think this look would KILL in a claymation a la nightmare before Christmas. But as is they look fine it’s just in how they move. It’s to fast and over polished which clashes with the macabre vibe they were intended for.

[@xblade149]

@@SarcasticChorus hey sorry to be that guy but... the movie wasn't done by sony it's was done by MGM

[@eatatjoes6751]

As a fan of both the series and the cartoons, this could have been a mixture of both and ended up turning into absolutely nothing worth watching.

[@tyrant-den884]

Their art is good animation doesn't suit them, not does the art for anyone else.

[@saskestheman]

Biggest sin to me is they took the Adam's Family and gave us "Fat generic dad and fat generic son" like there aren't enough of those already.

[@Momofan69]

Tbf they're based on the comic characters. Look only I mean, not the generic part. I like the idea of the visual comic characters but there's something refreshing about a hot wife being complimented by a hot husband.

[@spaghetto9836]

@@Momofan69 Yeah, same.

[@imp-tweekakarainbow_washov8991]

**COUGH COUGH** family guy

[@nellewoodruff6337]

@@Momofan69 *cough cough* Enid's parents

[@ironpulcinella3586]

THAT'S HOW THEY WERE DRAWN ORIGINALLY FROM THEIR COMIC!!!!

[@TheUmbravulpes]

To me, the 90s films (and the b&w series) was never about the family having family conflicts, it was more about the Family vs the rest of society. Trying to create conflict within the family just feels wrong. In my mind the Addams' love and support each other and all the rest of the world can do is deal with their strangeness. These animated films just don't capture that.

[@tyrant-den884]

I would offer the slight modification: _society_ vs. the Addams. Because the Addams did not fight or struggle against society any more than they did with each other; "society" would try and fail to fight against them while they'd just respond with their unique brand of good natured pleasantness.

[@lightworker221]

If they want conflict in the family, they could have referenced the TV show but it make it darker. For example, Morticia's sister Ophelia could cause a lot of conflict, since she is similar to Debbie (less man-killer). Or they could have done something with Lurch, like they did in the episode where Lurch is trying to impress his mother or the other episode where he tries to get a date to a town dance.

[@rosequill7925]

There are very few episodes of the black and white series where there was conflict in the family and they always felt kind of off and awkward and like the characters had enough communication skills to resolve them at the beginning but the writers needed a episode so they ignored that

[@whade62000]

True, but it's no like the shows didn't have plenty of internal conflict. There was an episode about Gomez and Morticia mistakenly believing that the other has fallen love with someone else and both deciding, on their own, to support what makes the other happy (before it gets cleared up). There was one about Morticia worrying if she spends enough time with the kids, inspiring her to volunteer for at the school (with predictable results). There was one about Pugsley trying to prank her sister back, before deciding that their established dynamic was fine. The point is, the family always responds to these problems in an exemplary way. That's why the Addamses could became role models for so many. The Addamses responding to family problems in a way that makes you love them more is very much a partof their appeal. What you CAN'T have with these characters is trying to run them like the Simpsons (or its copycat shows) and have the fact that everybody is an insensitive idiot drive the plot. You CAN have their backwards logic drive the plot. But you shouldn't ever change the fact that the Addamses are NICE, and go beyond duty to support each other more than your average family would.

[@S0rar1a]

Exactly. The Adams family were meant to subvert the more commonly found comedy family. Part of that was the fact that they actually cared for each other and supported each other, and communicated with each other. Which then pointed out how messed up it was that we didn't see anything wrong with those comedy families that were spiteful and toxic and downright awful to each other.

[@rosequill7925]

I don't understand how fanfiction writers can manage to capture these characters so well but studios with professionals with huge budgets can't even manage to write something interesting

[@ravelterthetraveler]

It's cuz they didn't hire the fanfic writers.

[@vlett6387]

Cuz fan fictions are written by fans that genuinely care about the shows and the characters. While studios only want money so they just make cardboard cutouts of the beloved characters and rewrite them to be bland and generic to make them more easily marketable to children

[@nyamcallister7208]

its less the writers and more the studios. the writers could make the best damn story ever but if the studio doesnt think itl sell, theyll either change it until they think it Will sell, or cancel it.

[@Alisibeth_Talia212]

Because we're magic.

[@mrrunodan8119]

I read A LOT of Loud House Fanfics and I agree with you. I didn't even watch the cartoon!

[@braedenfullam7936]

Years ago there were rumors that The Addams Family would be adapted in a stop motion film. That would've been PERFECT for capturing the tone and allowing so much creativity. Which makes what we got even more painful

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

I hate this realism=good mindset that the movie industry has One of the biggest examples is "love death and robots" which is a series where every episode has a different story and universe (one might be the preview of a "what if Hitler didn't die" app the other might be a bunch of archeologists running from Dracula, it's always something new) the first season was great, the art styles matched the tone and the mix of horror and comedy that it had was great, but there were a lot of episodes where they default to cgi, it wasn't as bad in the first season but the second had more of that than it should, everything was cgi with little exceptions which sucks because if it was like this from the start I wouldn't have watched past the first episode, the only episode I remember from season 2 is made with stop motion and it's great because the contrast between the cutesy and wholesome tone and setting with the horror made it actually surprising and interesting

[@veronica-mew]

@@airplanes_aren.t_real I'm confused by this comment. Are you implying that these CG animated Addams movies are more realistic or are you just complaining about Hollywood in general?

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

@@veronica-mew Hollywood in general, looking back this definitely wasn't the most fitting reply to the comment

[@BucketIHead]

If it was in the same style like Caroline that be cool

[@kclarke421]

@@airplanes_aren.t_real Lmao it's okie Stay safe

[@creativelie8368]

Wednesday being adopted would’ve made more sense in the original comics where Wednesday was like. Shy and meek and stuff. I think the movies made her lean into the more gothic aspects of the Adams and honestly it was great for her character. But between leaning into that and making her look even More like Morticia, I literally Can Not see Wednesday being adopted. Pugsley being adopted would make more sense? But then again while he doesn’t look like either of his parents he’s literally indestructible.

[@thewolfofwallstreet627]

plus you can argue pugsley gets most of his looks from Uncle Fester, as he does look like a younger version of fester with hair obviously .

[@dungusbungus559]

@@huffledoxx2579 I think you meant overrated, cause underrated would mean Wednesday isn't getting the attention she deserves

[@petthequeenofmaddness8592]

or that one baby that they "killed" in the one movie

[@maem7462]

I fully agree. It would have made more sense if they did the Pugsley is adopted plot. But it still wouldn’t make much sense though

[@petthequeenofmaddness8592]

@@maem7462 no in one movie there were baby's in the family they had a third kid and Cousin Itt had a kid too. they could have made it a joke.

[@endgame7856]

The Addams Family movies with Raul Julia, Christina Ricci, and Christopher Lloyd are the best versions of this family, moviewise.

[@Ramsey276one]

Mr Shadaloo Isekai’d to a better life! XD

[@vodka9384]

Don't forget Anjelica Huston!

[@Valorian6167]

I'm assuming those are the live action ones? I'm not good with actor names. Or names in general.

[@mitchfletcher2386]

@@Valorian6167 You guess correctly.

[@Hinatachan360]

The chemistry between Angelica Houston and Raul Julia is superb! 💞

[@AllyGatorAnimator]

If they really HAD to go for the "swapped at birth" plot (and it's not even good), why didn't they go for Pugsley? He doesn't look like anybody else in the family here and both movies really push the idea of him often being the victim/pushed around by the darker elements of the family to make him the butt of jokes. If anybody in the family would be at risk of not feeling like they belong, it would be him (at least in this series). Not to mention he's more into explosions and chemical warfare than everybody else, so him being the potential son of a scientist would at least cause an interesting conflict where he finds somebody with similar interests and is finally in his element more. It would still be generic as hell, but it would at least be more plausible than literal-ghoul-child-followed-around-by-a-storm-cloud-spitting image-of-her-mother Wednesday.

[@plutoberry6393]

YES! That would make so much more sense.

[@spacebubble1552]

YES

[@luma4902]

This

[@hunterolaughlin]

I’m sure the writers knew that, but just didn’t want to put effort into the story, so they went the lazy route and made Wednesday be the supposed non-Addams Family member.

[@scribblebee5412]

Probably because Wednesday is (arguably) the more popular of the two and instead of writing clever dialogue and situations that would make the plot more enjoyable and plausible they just decided to go with generic bullshit and capitalise off the character popularity

[@Macalicious]

I'm kinda sick of the entire "Wednesday is the mascot of the Addams family" trope. I get that all series have a character that pops out but lately all these Addams Family stories aren't 'Family' anymore. It's almost always a story surrounding Wednesday. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love her, but this makes the rest of the family move to the background with Morticia and Gomez having more importance because they are the parents. Also, I absolutely hate that the entire vibe of these two movies is "Grubhub gets their own 3D movie in an amusements park" I love that they choose to stick to the original comic style, but all other characters seem so out of place and everything looks like it's made of plastic and rubber. I wholeheartedly agree that stop-motion would fit the entire look of this way better than CGI. I'm not against CGI, but sometimes certain stories need different mediums to get their point across.

[@thgritic102]

Thank you! I love Wednesday too, but I also love the other family members, and I want to see them have their shine too. That's why I love the 60s show because it gave me that when I watched it at my grandma's house when I was little. Each episode showed why they work better than the "classic, traditional" family even in today's standard. Instead, they are focusing too much on Wednesday and not the relationship between her and Pugsley, Pugsley and his love for destruction, Morticia, Morticia and Gomez, and other characters and their personalities. Like give Wednesday a break and have everyone together, movie!

[@Macalicious]

@@thgritic102 EXACTLY! It honestly wouldn't surprise me anymore if future Addams family instalments would have Wednesday to be an only child. Give Pugsley some room to grow in as well 😫

[@CatsRul85]

Or even a 2D animation would work well- given their designs are based of the comics.

[@positivea9111]

@@CatsRul85 Yeah but since there so money hungry they know 3D animation is more cheaper.And that’s why they reuse character model like the big blonde girl from the first movie .

[@slashbat2375]

I totally agree with this actually, I watched everything addams family as a child... except for the original live action series. And when I started watching it last year it was extremely jarring how little she was actually in the show. Since then they really have been pushing her to the forefront, and while I do totally love her, I think there's just something better about having more balance with other family members

[@cinthiacruzado2594]

I honestly would have bought into the idea of Wednesday being adopted...if she didn't look like an Addams when she was born. Addams have very unique traits that you can say "Oh hey look, that's an Addams." But if they didn't give Baby Wednesday an Addam-esque appearance, it would have made the idea of Wednesday not being their biological daughter more believable and she adapted to those Addam-esque traits as she grew older. But during the whole film, I kept calling bs because it's so painfully obvious that Wednesday is an Addams by blood which made this film a complete waste of time.

[@coltywolty01]

I’d bet that the other kid is actually not an Addam, considering that he’s the only one that’s ginger.

[@venus-9630]

@@coltywolty01 but he has the "trait" of not being able to die,

[@DarkFaeCosplay]

@@coltywolty01 Pugsley is definitely an Adams

[@TheWilderCat]

That would’ve been a cute way to visually convey the message that she’s part of the family, blood related or not. Instead it just feels like a board show that never got a second draft.

[@darthbane5676]

Imagine the Addams family goes to Salem, and initially everyone thinks they’re just a normal family that’s excited to be there, and the Addams family thinks they’ve finally found a place where they fit right in. But soon it becomes apparent that the Addams family really is as dark and scary as modern Salem pretends to be. I can imagine there’s a businessman who doesn’t like that the family is accidentally scaring away the other tourists, but he can’t just kick them out because they’re technically tourists too, so he’s trying to find a way to scare them out and it keeps backfiring. Eventually, the businessman turns the townsfolk against the family, and it plays out almost like a modern witch trial. Maybe at the end, the businessman causes a big problem that the Addams family has to solve in order to save the town, and the people of Salem realize that the Addams family being scary doesn’t necessarily make them dangerous.

[@redsea866]

That sounds brilliant .

[@abiwonkenabi7027]

I love that idea, because you could also have the Addams family applaud the authenticity of the trial, thinking it is a recreation and really get into the melodrama of the situation. The town is scared of them but they treat like a LARP and turn it into a beneficial attraction.

[@darthbane5676]

@@abiwonkenabi7027 That’s a good idea.

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Isn't that sorta like the plot of the first movie?

[@F1SHB0NEZ_]

shut up and take my money

[@dinosaysrawr]

Boom, I have a better premise: The Addams Family goes on a road trip to spooky and macabre locations that have become commercialized and watered-down. They proceed to creep the bejesus out of everyone at those locations who clearly don't take things even half as seriously as the Addamses do.

[@dcscruz2970]

Imagine them recreating the Salem witch trials with the kids doing a bad normal citizen with a fork costume or Wednesday dressed as a priest of sorts with pugsley as a excecutioner much to everyone’s fear

[@user-jn1wm3tb8v]

@@dcscruz2970 Wednesday is a witch, Pugsley is an executioner, Fester is a townsfolk and Morticia and Gomez are taking pictures and talking excitedly about Wednesday's first time in a guillotine.

[@dcscruz2970]

@@user-jn1wm3tb8v I can imagine that. Even making her dress like a mourning Victorian lady with the veil and all but on black xD

[@user-jn1wm3tb8v]

@@dcscruz2970 Another idea is keep the road trip but make it all macabre locations and Wednesday dresses for each location. So she dresses as a witch, Lizzie Borden, the mothman at goatman Bridge etc

[@dcscruz2970]

@@user-jn1wm3tb8v I can imagine her mother being happy she’s paying homage to all these places and even commenting an Addams was around that place or even was part of it. It could help show how she might be insecure and wants to pay homage as to feel more part of the family

[@DeOneTrueSage]

There is one scene in Addams Family Values that always kill me with laughter. When Debbie introduce herself to the Addams when she says "aren't you a lady killer" and Gomez responding with "acquitted" and winks.

[@Ramsey276one]

Hope the fellow that commented “Addams Vs The Punisher” sees this XD

[@Alisibeth_Talia212]

I love that man so much. 🤣

[@firefeather9999]

I think the main issue the writers face is they forget the adamses arent monsters. They do get injured and they can be hurt. Uncle fester bot so much, but the others yes. In the black and white television series, they state that at the time Wednesday was too young for real dynamite so they give her caps. And when people visit, they are happy to bring them in and expect them to have the same Interests as the family does and the same dislikes as well. So to MGM watering them down to be basically goth slapstick monsters is just a crime!

[@lilysnape6520]

I think this immunity is like ... build up. Which would also connect well to the face of shock of Gomez and Morticia in Adams Family Values, where Wednesday drops Pubert from the top of the house. Like : He isn't old enough to be tortured while at the same time Puxley don'T have many problems sitting in an electric chair

[@ArteiceTB]

I really hate when rap and hip hop are just used for filler or jokes in animation these days.

[@buhmment6107]

Amen

[@Saltedroastedcaramel]

Rap and hip hop age just as quickly as pop music

[@kiaheat1920]

I know, right? Why not My Chemical Romance instead?

[@pyraffin]

Sad they didn't use the "blood is thicker than water" thing to have Wednesday correct it to the full version which is "the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb" It would've fit right in with the "adopted" family theme and Salem if they had even went there Then again that might require brains and doing stuff in the writers room

[@Azazreal]

Gomez and Morticia are the biggest power couple ever. Every relationship should aim to be as loving and open with each other. Like damn, they be in LOVE and nobody gonna tell them how to be together. 100% agree that the original movies are pure perfection that set an example for me as a kid. Wednesday awoke things in young me and I know im not the first or last with that haha Now i just aim to be as awesome as Uncle Fester to my friends kids

[@ultimatebishoujo29]

I definitely agree with you about Gomez and Morticia!!

[@nathanielheilmann7351]

I have friends who are marriage counselors who use Gomez and Morticia as an example of how a healthy marriage can work showing that Gomez and Morticia are individuals who share a life rather than one's personality overtaking the other

[@Alisibeth_Talia212]

Those two are literally obsessed with each other and it's everything I want my relationship to be.

[@chaoticlady_fairy]

I’ll never stop being angry that the person who made adult Wednesday Addams series on KZbin got sued for this bs remake series.

[@FlareJollyDragoness]

Wait, what?!

[@chaoticlady_fairy]

@@FlareJollyDragoness yup . See she was given a cease in desist because this garbage series of movies was in production and they didn’t want to “taint” the brand . She had no choice .

[@FlareJollyDragoness]

@@chaoticlady_fairy That is BS. I just saw the show and it looks a million times better than these animated "movies" could ever be.

[@Alisibeth_Talia212]

Awh, I never got to see it. Now I'm upset.

[@IceGoddessRukia]

What the hell???? I only saw one of those videos and it was 1000x better than the animated pile of trash! I just hate these greedy ass people who take away things we love.

[@tyrant-den884]

If I HAD to make an Addams Family rode trip movie: they would not be the main characters. The main characters would be some Grizwald types who's car breaks down and hitch a ride with the Adam's vacation they cannot seem to escape.

[@U.R.coolkid]

I think that was a scooby doo episode plot

[@sanzoskitten]

Imagine if they had tried. They could have subverted expectations by saying we're going to Hollywood! And then going to Hollywood Cemetery in Richmond, finding the cemetery vampire and adopting the stone dog. They could have kept doing that with several locations and made it interesting.

[@geardog24]

Whatever they paid Snoop Dogg to be in this garbage wasn't even close to enough.

[@kinggalactix]

I will be the first replier. also, that is true.

[@remcrimson2750]

First Spongebob now Addams Family. Why does Snoop Dogg nowadays ruin every movie he touches.

[@talldrinkofmarmalade7281]

I don’t think Snoop ruins every movie he touches, I think that if they resort to hiring Snoop for no particular reason the movie was being handled by morons to begin with.

[@garthdavis4320]

@@remcrimson2750 Well I think anything with Snoop Dogg is worth watching.

[@awwhellnawww9239]

@@remcrimson2750 same with Finn wolfhard him and snoop dogg are used for everything

[@KanaHyoshi]

I am tired of movies using big celebrities for animated movies instead of using voice actors or sticking with live action.

[@hunterolaughlin]

Unfortunately, this is an animated film made in *Hollywood* so of course executives are going to want big name celebrities to draw crowds into seeing animated films. If you want to make an animated film where the cast features nothing but voice actors, then you have to go *outside* of Hollywood and make it an independent studio where it’s free from executive meddling.

[@nathanialb.8394]

So ur telling me morticia doesn’t even know if she gave birth to Wednesday

[@yourlocalfbiagent5684]

Ayo just put them on Maury smh

[@leviathan4654]

It's fascinating Amazon bought Hotel Transylvania 4 considering they are buying MGM, the production company that made this movie. Also, the animation was done by the same people who made sausage party

[@_Iscream]

Not something that I was expecting, but ok!

[@thewolfofwallstreet627]

watch them make a crossover movie. book it

[@hunterolaughlin]

Well that explains why the other human characters sans the Addams Family have horrifying designs. I guess human character designs aren’t Nitrogen Studios forte.

[@embroideredragdoll]

I SEE THE ANIMATION STYLE NOW THE FUCK!

[@Mooms]

The guy who co-directed Sausage Party also co-directed this movie and the first one

[@fatcat1414]

I hate whenever a 'is this person adopted?' plot comes up and the answer being 'no' is some great relief. Being blood-related does not automatically make your relationship better.

[@puppetpawss]

Not to mention it just further perpetuates the already existing idea that, "Family is only ever truly family if everyone involved is blood related." That's a massive issue as it makes adopted children feel out casted from the rest of their families

[@larue4842]

I think it's more the idea that it would be a legal nightmare and there's a risk they could lose wensday. I haven't seen the movie though so I dunno.

[@stardust6186]

@@larue4842 Yeah, you could say it was the fact that they could lose Wednesday. But, this was never the main theme and it was never made to send that message. I think the video talks about this.

[@Telawin]

I didn't even know this movie existed... and now that I do I want that ignorance back

[@nicoleraheem1195]

😂

[@FrostGlader]

Same lol

[@Alisibeth_Talia212]

Me too.

[@kevinandorsusie]

You know the music is weirdly enough one of the most disappointing parts about this for me and one of the main reasons I didn't even bother to give these movies a chance. With everything else I can tell that it is distinctly not like the Addams family, but at least they're trying. There's some semblance of an effort there, even if it fails. The music choices though, was just the nail in the coffin for this being a loveless soon to be dated cash grab of a movie for me. There are so many modern artists out there who make music with dark and macabre themes that I'm sure if they had been offered would've been happy to write a song that's morbid while still being kid appropriate enough for a movie about the Addams family. But instead they decided to go with rap songs that neither fit the tone and theme of the film or appeal to the demographics it's aimed towards. The ball wasn't just dropped, it was thrown into a bottomless pit.

[@SuperPal-tr3go]

Uncreative musical choices in a kids animated film is almost always a sure sign that its going to be bad and uninspired.

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

I've been over and done with jukebox musicals ever since Shrek 2. It's lazy, uncreative, and usually means they're trying hard to make a dull movie seem interesting.

[@byakuyatogami2905]

Imagine the Addams family soundtracked by Aurelio Voltaire though

[@kevinandorsusie]

@@byakuyatogami2905 see, you get it

[@emartin29]

@@byakuyatogami2905 Yes.

[@cloegemmel7177]

Addams Family Values had the perfect response to the wave of late 80s/early 90s Hollywood "discussion" about the genocide of Native Americans. Hollywood was out there like "well things were bad yes, but here's this nice white cowboy and maybe they can all learn to get along?", while Wednesday is on stage dropping a bomb on an audience of upper class Americans

[@misterzygarde6431]

Correction: Sony didn’t make this film. Also I think there’s potential in an Addams Family show for adult audiences. Not as an “adult” cartoon like Brickleberry or Paradise P.D., but more on the level of the Raul Julia films.

[@Ramsey276one]

A TV SHOW following THOSE MOVIES?! *YES*

[@jdawson7877]

basically a REAL adult show

[@alishaparrish1684]

I think Tim burton is working on something for the Addams family

[@yomiyuarts]

FINALLY I SAW SOMEONE CORRECTING HIM. PLEASE THIS MOVIE WAS NOT MADE BY SONY IT WAS MADE BY MGM

[@corlenajames1381]

@@alishaparrish1684 Tim Burton? Nah, it'll just end up being the same as all his other films. I'd honestly like to see a fresh face with a fresh vision at the helm on this. Tim really jacked up 'Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children'... It felt like he didn't take the assignment seriously, like he just arrogantly slapped on some standard Tim Burton aesthetics & refused to commit to the dark ambience of the story. I'd have loved to see Alfonso Cuaròn's take on Peregrine, and possibly Addams Family, too. There'd be less chance of it ending up like 'scary Dr. Suess' which pretty much describes the bulk of Tim's catalog.

[@cursedhellrose]

What made them so compelling was the unconditional love they have for each other and being 100% unapologetic. This feels like they only vaguely knew who they were and made an animated family movie

[@AndrewDickmeyer]

This movie is the reason why I don't like to actually go to the movies anymore.

[@luisbalbuena6563]

Bruh what

[@AndrewDickmeyer]

@@luisbalbuena6563 bro this movie sucked so bad that it gave me enough motivation to just not care about the animation industry as a whole, if this stupid illumnation feeling movie can make me feel the obligatingly board, than that’s an accomplishment!

[@luisbalbuena6563]

@@AndrewDickmeyer atleast watch other movies that are better than the adams family before saying that

[@Saltedroastedcaramel]

It's hard for me to get into movies too.

[@Hellakiddie]

Same most writing isn’t worth me going anywhere

[@ven902]

Addams are suppose to be a weird but better family in generic regular situations and how their values are different from ours. So they work best when they try to do normal stuff like,l get a job, go to a dinner party, go to a school event, and road trips. Not when you through them in super dark situations, for example if the addams family hung out with a bunch of goths every movie/episode then they wouldnt be a weird, interesting family it would just be a group of goths.

[@moonbeamsun9066]

Honestly I’d like the story better if Wednesday was actually confirmed to be adopted. Let’s say that Cyrus did abandon her and Morticia and Gomez found her and took her in. At the science fair, the lawyer talks about the fact that Cyrus wants Wednesday back, leaving Wednesday confused. She always thought she was an Addams. She does the whole DNA test and asks her parents if it’s true that she was adopted, and they tell her the truth. Wednesday feels confused and wonders if she still has a place in the family and withdraws herself, leading to the family taking a road trip to try and cheer her up. Along the way Wendsday keeps accidentally meeting with Cyrus, and he puts the thought in her head that she is better off with him then the Addams, and that the Addams don’t love her because they’re not her “real family”. Wednesday isn’t convinced at first, but after mishearing a conversation where Gomez and Mortica are worried if her bio parents will take her back and misinterprets it as they’d willingly give her back. Wednesday leaves with Cyrus, and he reveals that he’s not actually her biological father- he simply came up with the story that he was after finding about Wednesday being adopted so he could get her science project and use it to take over the world (or something like that). The Addams show up to save Wednesday and they defeat Cyrus. Wednesday leaves with the Addams, knowing that although they aren’t her biological family, that’s okay, because she knows that the Addams are her true family.

[@Alisibeth_Talia212]

YES THAT PLOT WOULD'VE BEEN SO MUCH BETTER

[@w1ccaphobia]

Why couldn't you be this movies director??? This would've been so much better than this! I literally watched this movie and hated it

[@420funny6]

"Pretending to be the Addams family" is the best way I've heard it described

[@socksinsoda9517]

Wednesday is actually Megamind's kid, change my mind

[@wolfkitty42]

You saw that forehead.

[@fbiopenup559]

@@wolfkitty42 *fivehead

[@yourlocalfbiagent5684]

@@fbiopenup559 sixhead*

[@yourlocalfbiagent5684]

Ayo what if Megamind and Moterica ? 😃🔫

[@lilystalkloids2755]

@@yourlocalfbiagent5684 sevenhead*

[@YuzaruKisekiKokoro]

The live action movies, for once, was peak of the Addams family especially once you grow up and realize just how much of a mood many of the characters are and all the many many many adult jokes hidden in it

[@susanaalmeida593]

To play Devil’s Advocate here, it does kinda make sense that Wednesday is adopted considering that the core concept of the Addams Family is that even though they love and revel in death, gloom and doom they are still genuinely nice and kind people and are arguably more loving and morally correct then most “normal” families as they are blissfully unaware of how the world around them reacts to their alternative lifestyle. Wednesday however, at least since the 90’s films has been portrayed as being the only member of the family who is a genuine psychopath that is fully aware of how people react to the Addams and goes out of her way to actually hurt or even kill people, meanwhile if the rest of the family were to do so, it would at least be on accident or because they don’t really understand how death effects other people as they themselves are essentially immortal, being able to shoot each other with arrows for fun or casually take baths in sulfuric acid with no ill effect. Wednesday meanwhile KNOWS that stuff kills normal people and she LOVES it because it can kill people.

[@Xxxfallen_angelxxX]

Holy shit she kind of is a psychopath

[@BrightWulph]

At least the Richi version of Wednesday, iirc the animated version of Wednesday (also from the 90's) was more in the spirit of the original Wednesday.

[@zoeyvidz1265]

The Adams family are anything but normal. But this movie and the first once feel like the Adams family keep trying to fit in rather than just being themselves and standing out. The sequel could work without the whole Wednesday is adopted thing . It would work if they just went to dark uncommon places , the siblings keep trying to kill each other for fun cuz they don't die , set a fun place on fire for fun , go to an asylum admiring the place, digging people out of their graves or something like that rather than the common places for a vacation and just doing normal things .

[@alyssamay9237]

The only “family road trip” plot I enjoyed was the Gravity Falls episode, and that was because the road trip was just Grunkle Stan trying to get revenge on his competitors. I feel like Dipper’s girl trouble in that episode makes a lot of sense, he’s still getting over Wendy and he’s an awkward kid. Plus it’s only ~20 minutes, as opposed to ~90

[@tessaminick8745]

I always headcanoned that, at least in teh 60s series, that Pugsley was adopted, since he looked different than his parents. So this movie centering around my headcanon but two steps off is just casually infuriating for me

[@saycandace1341]

I just have a feeling that Tim Burton could have nailed the Adams Family animation movie better.

[@yes_its_edd191]

Hell yeah dude, I would kill to see how it would look like

[@dehistoriapisciumfish7639]

If he did the animation and someone else the script it would be good. Because Wednesday also misunderstood Addams family

[@carrastealth]

Sony: "DON'T YOU PUT THIS DEVIL ON US SARCASTIC CHORUS!" MGM: *Homer Simpson sliding into the grass gif*

[@SarcasticChorus]

Yep I knew I dropped the ball somewhere in this vid

[@overworldgames7508]

kids movies are always not willing to go through dark tones which would be lots of fun

[@grimgracious]

Wait, so if Wednesday is supposedly swapped did they just toss the 'actual' Adams baby to the side or are they shown in the movie? Seems messed up the scientist just gave up on them and pretend they didn't exist the moment he thinks his actual child is around lol

[@dae8665]

the supposed "actual addams" baby looks like a female Pugsley the spoiler being the scientist doesn't actually have a child. wednesday wasn't swapped with someone else, the lawyer was hired under false pretenses.

[@Zen_Corner]

I just can't consider these movies an Addams movie. The atmosphere, the characters, the humour and the charm of the previous works are simply not there. I get that you need to adapt it to a modern audience, but not at the cost of what made it unique in the first place. These movies don't exist to me.

[@kathleenh2782]

the only "family road trip" trope i've seen work in recent media was in The Mitchells vs The Machines- they took the tired old trope of a road trip, ran with it, and created a great story out of it!

[@emmdear2337]

Little Miss Sunshine worked too!

[@lydiaboll2872]

@@emmdear2337 I love that movie.

[@thenerdbeast7375]

These new movies really don't get the Addams family. It's like the difference between well-made homemade chicken soup and condensed schlock from the can; all the ingredients are there but they aren't given the time and attention to really bring out the best in them.

[@kadino9285]

Sony didn't make this movie it was MGM and the animation team behind Sausage Party

[@MJcool-su7qk]

First time I heard about preferring live-action over animation, and I couldn't agree more.

[@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185]

I didn't know why people said you sounded like Blitzø until I heard you say “that shit" at 9:34

[@tiablue9106]

yeah I didn't hear it at first either but sometimes he does sound like a more chill blitz lol

[@endgame7856]

I can’t unhear it now! 😂

[@IcyDiamond]

Yeah he does kind of sound like Blitzo, he could probably do a great impression of him if he wanted to

[@Ramsey276one]

We know who can make Abridged now! XD

[@Hellakiddie]

Omg

[@doraeguyakaneddie6586]

I wanna see the Adam's family fight the Punisher.

[@marijamarcelic3149]

I would hope he kills all of them

[@doraeguyakaneddie6586]

@@marijamarcelic3149 Try to tell me the Adams family haven't killed in the past. Sounds like something the Punisher would go after them for.

[@ruleofoz2207]

They'd probably invite him home, Not get that he's trying to kill them and treat him nicely and decently but come out as menacing because of their usual antics, meanwhile he tries various ways to kill them and fails for comedic reasons. It would end with Frank realizing they are beyond his strength and leaving, while the family waves hapilly and hope to see that charming gentleman again soon.

[@Ramsey276one]

@@ruleofoz2207 Also… HE CAN JUST “STRAY” TARGETS INTO THEIR ADDRESS P: That’s gonna be your last trip… XD

[@dankbudew4830]

Tim Burton would’ve been the perfect director for the Adams Family reboot…… It was supposed to be stop-motion…… 🖤😢😞

[@gregzotter6189]

They ruined the Addams Family? How...terrifying. (as someone who loved the old content...seeing THIS happen to it is just disgusting.)

[@mesousagaby740]

9:50 The Addams Family animated movies are distributed by MGM, NOT Sony. Not even the same animation studio, either, this is actually the same studio and team that did Sausage Party, which, actually, WAS distributed by Sony.

[@unusualusername8847]

There is a Addams Family Cartoon in the 60's where the premise was them doing a road-trip so the film actually did pull from the source material.

[@ajmalaika1287]

That the fuck meme IS EVERYTHING WHY HAVE I NEVER SEEN IT

[@Ramsey276one]

Timestamp please?

[@repulsethemonkey1396]

3:35

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

It's almost impressive how far off the mark these animated movies are from the original comics, tv show, and movies, although I will concede the animation is pretty nice, despite the normal people looking just as warped as the Addams Family. I do get a kick out of Wallace Shawn's character though, that man is a treasure.

[@insanecreeper91]

Okay but what did they do to Wednesday's hair? I haven't watched any of these new movies, but the one positive I heard was that a lot of people liked Wednesday's braids being tied into nooses. Did parents get mad so they changed it?

[@runascarlet2623]

Bet you the group known as one million moms complained so yeah, that’s probably what happened.

[@uncleit9214]

I think maybe wendesday is real child of morticia but not sure about her father 🤔 😂

[@LuigimanGamer]

Honestly what pisses me off the most about both of these films is how they portray the Addams especially Wednesday cause she is my favorite character i think the Addams were portrayed best in the first two live action movies

[@chapteronefrog]

Why didn't they have the plot be a mad scientist trying to get Lurch back because he was their "Frankenstein Project" that escaped and went missing (this would tie into how he met the Addams in the first movie) instead of Wednesday being adopted? Not only would that play into the Addams aesthetic, but it would also shoe how important their family is to the Addams, and you don't even have to be related to be part of it.

[@user-nn5dh3cs9s]

You know there’s going to be a 3

[@akirahatson2593]

You've got to be kidding me?

[@marijamarcelic3149]

Its sad,but true

[@akirahatson2593]

@@marijamarcelic3149 I wrote in the comments of the trailer it doesn't deserve a 2nd movie and now there is a third one?????

[@mikesworld6064]

Sadly, yes :(

[@marijamarcelic3149]

@@akirahatson2593 its not comfirmed,but its pretty obivus theyre gonna miked it Af

[@spidersinmypants]

“We must not fall into despair” as a danganronpa person, this made me legit die hearing this 🐜💨

[@zephodb]

They could visit 'Carhenge' and be annoyed there are no Druids, so the family dress up as Druids and get some animal sacrifices.. then something about cars, and they find a Motorcycle or Moped to sacrifice, PG but also... feels Addams. XD ...seriously, yeah... darker/messed-up/magical locations. >.> Like a place they need to go are things like the Winchester Mystery House, Salem, yeah... stuff like that. >.>

[@samanthaofcatarina]

"film equivalent of candy corn" come on man candy corn is less terrible than whatever this mess is

[@finalfroggitapproaches6418]

I wish they would’ve gone to Salem. What if the residents of Salem were also super gothic? The Addam’s are skeptical at first because, nobody has ever been warm and accepting. Eventually the kids get attached and, while at least one of the parents is skeptical, they all move there. But oh no the town has a secret evil plot and only the Addam’s specialness can stop it! The family realizes that no matter if they’re the weird neighbors or just like everbody else, they’ll still be an Addams. One final Cousin It/Fester joke, then role credits.

[@eatatjoes6751]

My whole thing with the road trip plot is that the road trip filtered through the Addams should be fun, but it isn't in the same way the rest of the film and the first one isn't. Hell, the music isn't even Addams-esque!

[@Aqsticgod]

7:02 funny thing is that a family road trip with the adams CAN and SHOULD work if there is a family centric plot, like in both raul julias films. First film was about fester coming back and regaining his memory of the family, the second, again about fester, but this time abut him finding love and leaving the family. usually especially in the old tv series (ive only ever seen the two) most plots revolved around the family and them dealing with every day things, so imagine the adams have to move and have to find a new gothic looking place cuz theyre bored of their original home and want to change it up, doesnt sound to out of the norm for an adams adventure and could lead to some hillarious and powerful scenes.

[@Dtoons]

Addams Family 2 isn't done by Sony. It's by MGM

[@yomiyuarts]

YES THANK YOU PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD

[@Luke-fu5co]

The original show still holds up imo so ill just keep watching it whenever i want to see the Addams 🤷‍♂️

[@darriongeorge5137]

5:43 Man, it's really weird seeing Wednesday smile like that

[@sabbe2409]

I remember this old cartoon of the Adam's and that was the best show to watch. That was stunningly orginal and actually good

[@bigmilkman]

i tend to try and just separate these movies from the actual ones. it’s a bit hard but makes them more enjoyable than when you think of what this is actually doing to the original series

[@darkm.annoyance8548]

Though I didn’t watch the movies (And I never will), I keep thinking watching this: Wouldn’t it make more sense for Pugsly or the son to be the one whose possibly adopted? I mean think about it. -It makes more sense since he doesn’t resemble that many people in his family. -The movie could add Wednesday wondering if she could be more caring about her brother -Pugsly would have to decide between a normal family to be more appealing to girls, or the way he is now. But that’s just my thoughts.

[@yemyearmii7231]

Just walked out of the theater for this. I love the Addams family. I have the original comics, the republished comics in a book compilation. The movies just barely disappointed me. Mostly cuz, some of the jokes land. But the plots are so silly and some are cringe. Music is okay. Some of their characteristics are true to the comics but some are self inserted. But do I really see these movies being beloved? No. I feel like the most out of character is Morticia and her over all judgey of “normal” people. She did that once and it was in the 90’s movie. And they make Gomez too pushy with his love.

[@yemyearmii7231]

But all points made, I agree.

[@jarl-b_1124]

What's really sad: my family watched this in theaters for my sister’s birthday. My sister is adopted, and knows she is, so my family was super excited for a plot where Wednesday actually ended up being adopted and choosing to remain with the family who raised her.

[@i.m.b4398]

Honestly Cousin Itt beeing a rich “gangster” is one of the jokes I can actually get behind. Not necessarily for the reasons they intend I am sure, but because I genuinely enjoy seeing this tiny ball of fluff living his best life. I don’t know why but I find it delightful. It’s the only thing I am invested in.

[@teddy-1965]

13:07 I’m dying at the idea of a “Welcome to Texas” sign being outside of San Antonio. It’s near the center of Texas! It’s several hours away from any of the bordering states or Mexico

[@tjones7341]

The best part of the Addams family is how much they absolutely love each other. The fact that they constantly try to kill each other and hurt each other offset by how close they are is a huge part of their unique charm. The fact that both movies focus on the problems with the family and how much they don’t understand each other and division in the family dynamic leaves a rotten taste in my mouth. That not how you Addams family.

[@odditynix]

God the Addams family values is so good. That dance number is everything my 12 year old self wanted in a romance

[@dark_scintilla]

We lost Melissa Hunter's Adult Wednesday Addams for these movies.

[@eatatjoes6751]

I loved that webseries. It got Wednesday right, unlike this pile.

[@blah7983]

My headcanon is that there’s no relation between most members of the adams family. Almost everyone is adopted in, very few are born into it.

[@sliverfire7555]

It would have made more sense if it was pugsle was adopted.

[@icecreamhero2375]

This movie wasn't made by sony. It was made by MGM.

[@normaleyes3997]

bruh wednesday isn't adopted, they revealed it in the boss fight that strange used the DNA from the finger thing the Addams gave that small yellow man.

[@zamboozle3741]

excuse you! i know candy corn isn't everybody's favorite treat, but it really doesn't deserve to be compared to this thing! (seriously, what's wrong with it? who did it murder? how did this humble little classic and iconic honey-based halloween snack hurt you people?)

[@StayClosedDelorean]

"Tell that Billie Eilish she is a little too sunny for my taste" Just end me already.

[@Mimi_6969]

*literally cringing rn*

[@COSun25]

Funny how no one knows that MGM is behind Addams Family 2 and the 2019 original animated film. It just means that the studio is becoming ever more irrelevant aside from being behind the release of the new James Bond film w/ its association with SONY.

[@Chicken-Cha-Chas]

Modern writing is the bane of classic masterpieces.

[@Ramsey276one]

Modern *”writing”*

[@Chicken-Cha-Chas]

@@Ramsey276one shit, I forgot the quotation marks. Thanks! :)

[@mariahs6]

I was just about to comment Mitchells VS The Machines, but you summed up what I wanted to say about it :P It does feel weird that now, one of the things I’ll remember 2021 for is having a really good movie featuring a road trip, and a terrible movie featuring a road trip! I did watch the first Addams family movie, twice (once with boyfriend, once with close friend) and I really liked the visuals for the family and home, but there’s nothing else to write home about, especially the message. Of all the franchises, did we need a “no family is normal” moral for this? Glad I won’t be missing out on anything for the sequel. I’ll definitely watch the live action ones again, I did when I was really young so I vaguely remember them.

[@TRexRAWWR1]

Conflict within the family feels so wrong. The entire point is that even tho they're strange, they're never strange to eachother, at least not in the way they'er strange to everyone else. They get each other, this family conflict thing they have doesn't work with the Adams family because they love and understand each other too well

[@WailingGecko2]

I love how the side characters are very ugly and reused character designs from the first movie. Even the first movie’s villain was reused for like one scene just with different hair color

[@undeadblizzard]

I love the 90s Version. I love watching it with a Slow Cooked Pork and Black Bourbon and a slice of Blueberry Dream Pie. Family Value yaas Queen.

[@Artemis820]

The cast is amazing they really should have just made it live action! But I guess that wouldn't sell to kids though

[@stephenhinds3160]

Nah nah nah. There's no way wensdays forehead genetics could come from anyone else

[@yourlocalfbiagent5684]

Megamind? LOOK AT HIS FOREHEADDD AND WEDNESDAYS!

[@wintersoldier164]

13:20 they missed the obvious funny joke that instead people laughing, people screaming for the fact a kid get wedgie by the air.

[@saucymongoose7246]

I LITERALLY just finished 24 frames of Nick's video on this movie and this shows up in my recommendations. Interesting

[@maverickdarkrath4780]

They used god damn "they see me rolling " in the fucking trailer.....I lost all faith in the film after that

[@Wendigo-Bait]

Fun fact, apparently this movie wasn't entirely on demand, the theater a work at has it, for too long, with no sign of it leaving ._.

[@ajnapalm]

You literally lost me at Wednesday being ad-pffftyhahaha oh man.