Adderall Abuse In Esports | The Flycast Ep. 68

[@Nick-vd9zw]

Shoutout to Niac and Hitch for making the Flycast the most consistent OpTic content out there right now. I had listened to the last one with aPg and Trippy at least twice because I enjoyed it so much and didnt even realize it had been a week since it came out and was happily surprised to see this on my feed. I feel like the OpTic podcast and OpTic nation content has been inconsistent but these two have been holding it down.

[@jasonodom9277]

They really are holding it down

[@alexanderdjr]

Def. Especially great when Halo makes it into the conversations.

[@blameyourlag9455]

i cant believe I slept on this podcast for so long lol, best piece of content on the optic channel

[@Bubs.-]

Amen

[@anon8079]

Maniac always finds a way to talk about his terrible halo career

[@OrionInSpace]

MaNiaC is back in fashion! Nick, great work on your first two videos back on KZbin. Love that you are trying to go for that fit challenge. Hopefully that will inspire my lazy self to get back in shape again consistently.👍

[@dyliver]

He’s in his prime. Currently cooking

[@OrionInSpace]

@@dyliver indeed

[@Cristian_D63]

Nick kept saying serotonin when Addy affects dopamine. It was driving me nuts. Dopamine is responsible for motivation and drive, when you take Addy without an actual need for it it's a crazy stimulant that makes whatever you're doing feel enjoyable then it crashes your baseline dopamine levels which is what causes the lack of motivation and depression. Kids if you want to perform better live a better lifestyle get enough sleep, take cold showers, eat actual food not fast food all day everyday and exercise and you will play better I guarantee it.

[@coachmixer8230]

What drives me nuts is when people say they "need" ADD meds more than someone else. What is your objective measurement for needing them more? They don't measure your dopamine to determine whether you have ADD, they rely on your representations. Also, those meds affect everyone the same. There isn't one scientific study showing that the meds produce a different effect in different people. That is a long-standing myth people use to justify taking them.

[@nodents3823]

Thank you for this

[@JTFord]

It’s such an eye opening thing to watch Nick talk about substance abuse from his perspective knowing what he’s accomplished. You can see him relive that time of his life and it almost seems like he’s experiencing disappointment and relief at the same time. So happy that he is in a better place and hopefully is able to help others in the scene.

[@ethansmith2941]

Love all the OpTic podcasts. Thank you all for keeping me entertained

[@wuuuuu6161]

I'm 32 and uzi has Hella songs where he's absolutely riding the beat, hitting every pocket different styles different tempos, he's a superstar.

[@NeObliviscaris3663]

Would love to hear Maniacs story, on his recovery and what steps he took on his own journey. To me it sounds like he is the perfect ambassador for this epidemic, he's lived it and that is something you can't learn or go to uni to learn. Use what you've learnt and pass it on to those who need your help Maniac.

[@loganyarger1665]

As someone who has taken adderall this is all very true and the come down from the adderall is horrendous. I spent many nights sleepless crying and so depressed it’s just not worth any of the “benefits” it just ends up hurting you and your brain.

[@Camjuice]

Uzi has a ton of songs where he's rapping well. Just have to look into his catalogue. Loved the episode as always

[@DylGonZo]

Hitch tweaking Wayne was 22 years old when Go DJ was released 😂😂

[@Sharktapussink]

50 gotta be considered in a top 5 convo just from longevity to his run in the early 2000s

[@K0K0J1N]

And he was absolutely hilarious

[@christiantaylor9309]

Lol you must be absolutely hammered

[@brandonellisFL]

what's your take on getting off of adderall without rehab? if you're pretty addicted

[@nodents3823]

I could use advice on this too

[@duhbaldio]

Watching this made me realize all the parts that’s pieced together my music taste. The Mexican music my parents played around me. Some genres have no lyrics so that’s why I can like a song based on just the beat, but Mexican music also so vocal singy wise, so I’m drawn to sing-ier r&b soulful songs. Then you mix it with music hip/hop-pop-rap era I grew up in, then you tie in the region i’m in. So many things have influenced and sketched my music taste

[@DTSam11]

0:25 “No one knows what it means but it’s provocative”

[@FoxyGrandpa1]

32:56 - Never related to something so much in my life. As someone who's been prescribed Adderall since I was 11, this is exactly how it feels when I don't/can't take it.

[@Cant111]

duh, of course, you're an addict to a drug

[@julianandrade9562]

addy talk around 29:00

[@tahmurahmad7519]

thanks

[@clayglenn6513]

Goat 🐐

[@chipsdubbo5.56]

Thanks

[@masah1377]

I’m glad I got to experience addy when I was younger tbh, I was prescribed in high school and hearing Nick and Hitch talk about it is resonating man

[@Spooky-ek3kf]

Felt this man. Was prescribed it when I was 18-19. Went down a slippery slope of addiction for about 2 years because of it. Would’ve been abusing longer if my son was never born.

[@CLUE_911]

Bone Thugs N Harmony. Best group ever. They are responsible for 90% of rappers to come out after them. Their flow and harmony had everybody either rapping fast and/or singing

[@Ja_Shua43]

The group is so underrated 😢

[@chipsdubbo5.56]

Truth

[@duncan-_-]

But they bit their sound from three 6 so really Memphis deserves all the credit

[@MrDonkey419]

Hitch a Celtic fan, as an Irishman, it's great to see.

[@IseFlyZ]

Lil Wayne is easily the goat. Best mixtape catalog ever. Best rap album series ever. Best feature rapper ever. Drake and Nicki are his predecessors. AND WAYNE IS STILL DROPPING THE BEST VERSUS ON SONGS

[@IseFlyZ]

And probably the best rapper PEAK ever

[@work4whatyouwant477]

No lies

[@Muffinman96]

Bro, wayne and Em had 2 of the craziest runs in rap/hip-hop. They both dominated the game for a great period of time but Em’s numbers are absolutely crazy

[@nodents3823]

I have been struggling with Adderall addiction/abuse for about 5 years now. I need to stop taking it because it is affecting my mental health and I feel so stuck in life and trapped in a cycle. I would appreciate any suggestions or advice on how to quit if anyone has felt with this

[@thePastafarian88]

Absolutely cannot leave Kendrick our of your top 5

[@BeezyH]

Y'all don't know about Tech N9ne. Dude is the GOAT

[@chipsdubbo5.56]

Yep

[@AMA2much]

Bro the kid that was dancing at the event was hilarious. Had the whole arena rolling 😂😂 And the music selection all weekend was fire

[@saulslinkontwitch]

Nick has been impressing me lately.

[@JarrettMorin]

Early uzi is goated, nowadays I agree he hasn’t been great but overall is pretty good imo

[@mingsmooth]

the flycast is really putting in work!

[@9RepeatingMonkeys]

Nick. I have diagnosed adhd (in europe where getting diagnosed is RARE) And you have adhd (based on the outside looking in perspective) You have a lower amount of baseline dopamine(dopamine is what you use to do stuff you dont want to do) People with ADHD get dopamine when something is interest, novelty, challenge, urgency, and passion. That's why people with ADHD appear to have SUPER focus sometimes. People with ADHD dont NEED meds, if you do stuff to bring baseline Dopamine up ( Excercise, proper nutrition, proper routine etc) You can still get stuff done. But when depression hits, and dopamine is even more effected that's where meds can kickstart that routine again. Addy basically doesnt exist where I live because it's so fast acting, look into Ritalin ( long lasting ) Concerta is what I use, My life was a mess of starting routines falling out of them, living one random obsession to the next without any ability to keep in a routine, Ritalin helps. ADHD is fucking difficult to live with, especially if you still have the guilt / shame around productivity, Highly recommend getting a diagnosis Nick, even if it just helps with the shame/guilt when you have bad days.

[@flockinggoose1181]

Recently diagnosed at 28 with adhd, just started my medication and it’s been the best week of my life. I can actually do laundry, dishes, make appointments at will, etc. it feels as if a wall has come down regarding starting/completing tasks.

[@9RepeatingMonkeys]

@@flockinggoose1181 yeah please do me a favour and build habits now, exercise daily! I fell into a bout of depression after starting mine cause I got so productive but didn’t maintain healthy stuff

[@flockinggoose1181]

@@9RepeatingMonkeys For sure, fortunately even before being diagnosed I was always heavily involved in fitness (comp in powerlifting, swimming through college, etc.) But the routine has been key, making sure to not fall into a hole of taking medication and hopping on cod, etc. and getting right into chores/ to do lists. Playing video games or time wasters after work, chores, and working out so it’s actually earned.

[@nodents3823]

@@flockinggoose1181 same here and same age. I started 5 years ago taking it and I felt like you are describing for about a year or 2. I never believed it would be affecting me the way it has over the last 5 years. I am still taking it and if I could go back I wish I never would have started. It’s definitely starting to do more harm than good for me but I am stuck in a cycle and it feels impossible to break that cycle

[@Ap0logetic]

Shout out the boys for the fly cast for sure, niac lookin and sounding better than ever, hitch out here with the goated mindset one of the best episodes of the flycast yet

[@FlameARS]

It was so lit to see yall bang that drum at my first even ever. That Thursday crowd was poppin!

[@nichyde2813]

Maniac is ON IT

[@matchress3832]

I think a ton of people need to understand something about addy/ADHD meds. IF YOU HAVE ADHD IT AFFECTS YOU DIFFERENTLY! I have ADHD and when I've taken adderall I have never once gotten the cracked out feeling because that's not how it works with the brain chemistry (which it's made for, it's not made for normal brains)

[@TGBCrew]

Keep killing it Nick fr bro motivated me and I was already motivated

[@Young516_]

Hey thanks for speaking out man I’ve been spreading awareness on the situation as well

[@ChillyEscimo]

Wow I didn’t know I was going to have an intervention today, thanks for caring hitch and maniac ❤

[@MrBmxtom123]

Hopsin is one of the best rappers out there lyrically and not many people have even heard of him

[@michaelrendler3703]

Hopsin is GOATED. Ill Mind will always be great

[@kcinson]

YO HITCH I'm the creepy guy from the Hollywood cut.. I'm 43 and been into hip hop my whole life.. you guys are crazy with this subject. And melt Mell was not an early 90s rapper Eminem was that lmao Freestyle Fellowship is up there fasho

[@seale6246]

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS ON APPLE! The last few didn’t make it, but glad to see it back 🔥🔥

[@NasonVSRG]

The problem with drug testing in eSports is that it's SO easy to get a prescription for Adderall. Even if you pop someone on a drug test with a prescription it doesn't really matter because you're dabbling into HIPPA laws. If CDL were to drug test they wouldn't be able to determine if something was positive or not, only non-negative. Then you would throw prescriptions and samples to drug labs to confirm a test to comply with prescriptions.

[@domtaylor5301]

Love the Celtic Top! 💚

[@calebwatson779]

I appreciate you guys for talking about adderall abuse in eSports. I will say that I would have liked you guys to point out that there are people who actually have ADHD and for those people adderall, ritalin, or vyvanse truly does help them. I know you guys weren't trying to say that those people don't exist though so it's all good

[@nadokrojoh]

No way you aint putting tupac in top 5

[@keepitglo3328]

love nick man he makes me realize I’m not alone 😂

[@kieransweeney928]

Hitch in a Celtic top so much respect for it

[@AzraelBeatz]

you cant tell me half of faze aint sipping addy water bruh

[@dillyboyq]

The last DIFFY Em album was recovery. That album definitely belongs in that run, first ever CD I bought when I was a kid.

[@jnewb]

Xo tour life (overplayed but good ass song), 20 min, do what I want, hi roller, grab the wheel, team rocket. All bangers. I’m 24 I don’t think he’s like amazing but from 2015-2017 he made some great music that I’ll have great memories listening to

[@rockenamigo5345]

P’s and Q’s, Neon guts, The way life goes.

[@nodents3823]

Can’t forget money longer 🤘😈

[@willisisawesome]

Hope Nick gets the backpack! Those IRL streams sound pretty dope. Cant wait for the 60 day challenge. The house tour was great. Ive never taken Addy and thankful that my mom told the doctors that I didnt need it when I was a kid.

[@IsaacMA175]

We just forget about Luv is Rage? If we’re talkin where he went crazyyyy

[@IsaacMA175]

Sidenote, I can respect all Jay-Z has done but I’m never sayin “can you throw on some Jay-Z”

[@Finnsta]

they gotta listen to some 2015-2016 uzi i think they only know the new mainstream stuff

[@Joshua30127]

The way they talk about addy can be applied to any addiction, as this hit me hard, as i have other addictions

[@dwil2731]

If you come out with a top 5 rappers list and don't say Nas and Biggie and at least mention Wu Tang you aren't allowed to make lists anymore haha

[@llllliiiliilil2388]

Or also if you mention Drake in it

[@nathenbosher1067]

Drake isnt a rapper he merely recites nursery rhymes

[@momosuno]

i think when putting together these lists it’s impossible if you don’t define what you actually mean. to me drake is an incredible artist and even though he makes rap music i doing consider him a top 5 rapper

[@unbecoming9321]

I’m just glad Maniac is good . Love seeing it .

[@ross4164]

Hitch in a Celtic shirt wtf did not expect that

[@lt8400]

Scump punching the air

[@DylGonZo]

Nick complains a lot and talks about doing stuff then procrastinating it. He just like me Fr.

[@matchress3832]

Nas won the grammy for King's Disease and his most recent, King's Disease 3, is his best album since Illmatic.

[@zacknelson6257]

Sucks that’s the Columbus tournament is no fans. Been waiting to be able to go to a tournament near Michigan and of course no fans.

[@BeefyCats]

Drake makes music for 13 year olds to drink to in their parents basement. Which is also why he sells so much…Niac I don’t think you realize that he doesn’t write his own music, nor does he make his beats. Drake is a walking meme if you actually respect rap/hip-hop.

[@magruster]

kendrick has to be in that top five

[@coachmixer8230]

Why and how? Because he had one awesome album and two decent albums? Kendrick is not Top 5 by any stretch of the imagination.

[@magruster]

@@coachmixer8230 what? two decent albums? they asked the question “best of this generation”. every album he has released since GKMC has topped the charts… even his peers in the industry view him as an all time great. HipHopDX just released an article last week about how he could be considered best of the decade…. I mean the dude just won a grammy idk if you’re paying attention my guy

[@coachmixer8230]

@@magruster Dude, where did they (or you) say top 5 of this generation? They included Jay Z and discussed Biggy, what in the world makes you think they are limiting the conversation to "this generation?" Also, Kendrick has 2 No. 1 Billboard Hits, one of which was a feature on a T-Swift song, the other ("Humble") was No. 1 for one week total. He isn't a consistent chart-topper. I like Kendrick, but you're hard-selling his popularity, "my guy."

[@magruster]

@@coachmixer8230 go back and watch the podcast lol- “this generation” was mentioned verbatim. biggie wasn’t mentioned in either of their lists they just elaborated on his influence- and the conversation wasn’t about popularity?? being popular doesn’t equate to being great lmfao. my guy. 😂

[@coachmixer8230]

@@magruster First, timestamp for me where they said their list was limited to "this generation." Thanks. Second, Biggie was number 5 on Nick's list before Hitch convinced him to switch to Kanye (I agree with this switch). Third, how can you say "popularity doesn't equal greatness" immediately after pointing to a grammy as evidence of Kendrick's greatness? Do you see how contradictory that is? If Kendrick is Top 5 to YOU, I respect that. To say he has to be in any Top 5 is just wrong.

[@jupiterangulo1014]

Why does this episode feel like a maniac intervention lol

[@NovaSixx]

Adderall isn't so bad if you know how to go about using them. Anything more than 2 days in a row is too much. The problem with them is how long it takes to get to sleep. You'll go to bed at 11pm and lay there until 4am and then wake up at 8am ready to pop another otherwise you're super fucked from the 4 hours of sleep. Combine that with not eating or drinking water and it's just a bad time. I'd argue you actually play games worst on adderall if you've been taking them for a few days in a row. Your senses and hand eye coordination is so messed up there's just no way you can play good.

[@Halo2Trigate]

This

[@EuropesNinja]

the cod team talk was right on the mark

[@TheTriskit4]

As a Kanye fan, I thank god hitch gave him a chance. Always seen hitch diss on ye and his music while seeing he hasn’t really dived into his discography.

[@Slayer-tv8ub]

Kendrick has to be in your T5 always imo

[@patrickthomas2650]

1. J. Cole 2. Lil Wayne 3. Biggie 4. Eminem 5. Drake

[@wolfsega1336]

yo which shoes are those @niac?

[@themicrogrowguy]

Really enjoyed the vlogs, keep up the good work 👍

[@Melanie_RoseAyala11]

Till I collapse is so fire!! That’s my gym song! 🔥

[@DylGonZo]

Uzi slander will not be had.

[@itsnotjayboi]

Great podcast topic fr I think that as the years go on by more and more will start to open up about it

[@itsnotjayboi]

And props to zin for opening up about it even though it was the one time

[@connorroberts8530]

whats the go to wayne stuff to listen to?

[@thehh5118]

A nice little appearance from headless Zin

[@Bingoy_2]

THE FACT BIGGIE WASN'T ON THEIR TOP 5 IS CRIMINAL

[@sudzzy]

The most underrated member of Young Money ever is Curren$y

[@t_dduubb]

Flycast makes the world go round

[@LuiQueue]

Hitch and Niac should make a react channel where they just listen to entire albums once a week. Reaction videos are were the views are at and they love music I think it'd be a perfect fit for these guys. channel name ''HitchNiacT'' lol

[@markzupanfan]

Two seconds in, Uzi slander, now I’m peeved

[@DylGonZo]

Had to leave a dislike for the one time cause of that shit. Ruined my fkn day 😂

[@beerdo]

uzi fans not wanted around here

[@sethp26]

​@@beerdo uzi haters not wanted, FTFY

[@alexstachura11]

If you're a Lucifer fan your prob gay with a banana in the tailpipe rn

[@beerdo]

@@sethp26 uzi haters don't exist. uzi haters are people with brains.

[@chipsdubbo5.56]

44:22 I had 2 friends that were addicted to addy, one would drink heavily while taking it. Anyone taking that stuff should stop for real

[@itsnotjayboi]

Oh nah the mix of addy and drinking sounds crazy on the liver I hope they are both doing well now

[@chipsdubbo5.56]

@@itsnotjayboi I'm not in contact with them anymore unfortunately, I hope they are too😥

[@CranRazzz]

Love you boys and love your story. Keep writing it

[@notFleqx]

Maniac should listen to Vinnie Paz/JMT/AotP. Quite different from what he listens to judging by his top5, but Vinnie Paz is such an insanely talented rapper.

[@DaggerofTime]

to me, lil wayne will always be the goat. 2004-2009 was the craziest run by any artist ever.

[@rudymacias9453]

I get what hitch is saying, but wa tang is not the greatest example. They were formed with the intention of going solo after they all blew up

[@braysenju]

Nah he is mad cozy. Made me grab my UGG blanket

[@snypeurass]

bouta take one rn no cap

[@beerdo]

most em fans don't listen to any other rap. 😂

[@yaboyhouse471]

I have to completely agree with lil Wayne being my number 1 as well, I would have to put J Cole somewhere in there as well with Eminem. No clue who else I would put but personally I can't put drake in the top 5

[@JAMSTAR111]

Lil Wayne no1 but drake not in top 5? Yikes lol

[@yaboyhouse471]

@@JAMSTAR111 personally I can't do it, it also depends on your age..if you don't have Kanye, J Cole, Eminem, and lil Wayne in your top 5 you're no older than 20.

[@conordavin2992]

The first music convo about uzi all depends how old you were in 2016

[@jrodonthebeat]

Lol I was 16 he was fire

[@rcsb_lando]

Not having NAS top 5 is crazy

[@TheTriskit4]

I will stand by this take, eminem stopped having great projects once Dre stopped producing them

[@ryanfergusson8173]

60 day challenge already showing big dawg

[@nickkatcher1332]

It goes REGGIE JAYZ TUPAC AND BIGGIE. ANDRAE FROM OUTCAST, JADA KURRUPT NAS AND ME! em wasn't lying when he said his list.!

[@quick5387]

i'm not listening to eminem on a daily basis or monthly but it's a crime to not recognize he is the best lyricist ever and that's a fact

[@Benfuze]

Where can I get addy in the UK

[@themontgomeryc]

Pretty sure its way harder to get. Would have to be black market, don’t do that. You never know what you’re getting in street pills.

[@Mr_TheBusiness]

1.biggie 2.eminem 3.canibus 4.jay-Z 5.lil Wayne

[@nateonyoutube9295]

I took adder all a few times in college. Once it didn't allow me to sleep for close to 3 days, from one pill. On day 3 I had to go to work, which was at a coffee shop, and midway through my shift for some reason I started crying uncontrollably. I literally wasn't sad or angry, I just started leaking. So fucking weird.

[@mikeyturner1333]

That Celtic top is beautiful Hitch

[@ToastySofa]

Maybe Take Care if you’re a Drake fan, but he doesn’t have a single no skip album.

[@ThorinATV]

Damn hitch sounding like g easy out here

[@zjord108]

glasgow Celtic football top on hitch

[@SiLKvL]

Hitch… MMLP2, Kamikaze, MTBMB side A are all good