Addressing the eBike Drama - ECELLS vs Wired

Hey guys, going over the features of the E-Cells FIVE STAR and addressing some of the recent drama in the e-bike world.
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[@larrybowers64]

Had to stop watching this BS video thanks to the super annoying BEEP! Not Funny, not even a little bit. Leave the comedy to real comedians! BEEP!

[@shootthechit]

No. please don't go

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

@shootthechit ...I'm still getting use to this...i don't understand it.......

[@shootthechit]

I already issued him a full refund @@IMBruceECLECTIC

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

@@shootthechit ..ha ha ha......

[@ravenrock541]

Don't watch the channel, Mr. Tight Sphincter

[@blivit195cm3]

Wired has used the game with adding the free second battery. Also I think I'm going to get the cruiser now that it has the full suspension and two batteries!

[@E-Ryders]

I have been reviewing ebikes for 4yrs, done around 80 reviews. I bought, yes bought an #eCells 1500 model a few years ago. Paid almost $5k. Owner definitely wasn't interested in handing out bikes to influencers.....lol. Then, when I got my bike, I understood why. The e-cells bike speaks for itself. It's been my personal bike, even though I have dozens of bikes going through my garage every year, the e-cells is still the one I have chosen as my daily. It is pure quality and they have really great customer service too. I also love that it's an American owned business too. I have not reviewed the #Wired #Wicked brand yet to give my opinion them. I can say, the only downfall is the e-cells bikes are a bit more expensive.

[@shootthechit]

You like the Monarch that much huh? They look like a solid bike with some good options

[@E-Ryders]

@shootthechit Well, when I got mine years ago, there wasn't all the options they have now....lol.

[@heavyhitter8972]

FYI, I found out from David Cleavland himself Hentach recommends not exceeding 230 degrees Fahrenheit motor temperature. To turn on motor temp, on the display set C8 to 1.

[@ishgumi44]

Wired is in trouble. They need to up their game, and fast. I have the Freedom and I love it, but they are a one trick pony and the competition nowadays is incredibly stiff. Free shipping!!

[@JoeL-fl2cl]

Check yourself. E cells now more and less bike.

[@heavyhitter8972]

FYI, I found out from David Cleavland himself Hentach recommends not exceeding 230 degrees Fahrenheit motor temperature. To turn on motor temp, on the display set C8 to 1.

[@mr.muchobueno8948]

All the other ECELLS v Wired videos focus on the drama, not the bike. The bike actually sounds pretty cool. I really like the 17” frame (being short), the direct mounted controller since my Freedom controller moves around a lot and hits the chain occasionally and it coming with/adding mods I’ve had to do on my bike. Really interested to see if the torque sensor helps with hill climbing or not. Good video.

[@robanderson5624]

I ordered weeks ago because they ship to Canada, have a larger frame version, and have water bottle bosses. Wired doesn't have any of that. With what I have learned since, and with all the updates and options that ECells added, I think the choice is obvious even for those not living in Canada. Nothing against Wired, but they have clearly been leapfrogged here. Great vid. I give it 5 stars. 😊

[@shootthechit]

Oh I might just steal that last line for a future video

[@Mojo-Risin-Risin]

Everything you have said is things I have thought of, and it's true. This is America... Wired step up your game, or lose sales. That's all there is to it...With E-cell you get more for your money ... I was going to order a wired freedom, not now. five star for me...👍👍👍👍

[@J.D.Vision]

Gold rim option with the black one, free shipping, and torque sensor option 😉 I also got $100 off with code. Might also get a white bike from the first company that makes it an option later on, but will go with e-cells for now.

[@MarkasTZM]

ecells pushes christianity on their website BOYCOTT ecells

[@heavyhitter8972]

FYI, I found out from David Cleavland himself Hentach recommends not exceeding 230 degrees Fahrenheit motor temperature. To turn on motor temp, on the display set C8 to 1.

[@terrymorton7444]

I bought a super monarch last April and loving it. The customer service has been great and fast. I don't know much about the wired bike, but I could tell you this, the e cells are a great product and they stand behind it.

[@Trailtested]

I got me E coming (may) can’t wait to review and shred some love. Keep up the good work!

[@EbikerScott]

Very good video Tim. Thanks for addressing this ongoing drama in a rational and mature way with facts and not opinions. 👍 Indeed this type of competition does benefit the consumer which so many people have forgotten.

[@justabiker1958]

excellent review. I want one. Want a little more comparison to the New Wired Freedom bike. Thanks bro. Ride safe at every speed!

[@Jnaathra]

I was looking at Wired's options. Then discovered the ECells Five Star. I got the Five Star for $2,094.00 (out the door) with the Gates Belt Drive upgrade. I couldn't justify getting less for more.

[@ericechipman1183]

Good video. I used to have a wicked. I have a five star on the way. My anticipation level is very high, I feel very confident about my purchase.

[@FeetR4Me]

Free shipping+Camo paint with gold rims may make me give it a go! Great video!

[@occommuter]

Thanks for this informative video, looking forward to seeing this review, I’ve been hoping that I could manifest a Wired freedom somehow, however, I may put that on hold until I see the competition in action.

[@BoardGameCasualChannel]

So glad to hear you are happy with your stock shocks. I'm definitely planning to get a Five Star after talking to a couple folks on reddit who own ecells bikes, but the new options threw me for a loop, and I was trying to figure out if I needed to spend the extra money on front and rear shocks if I'm mostly just doing street/path riding...

[@shootthechit]

Personally I wouldn't get the dual crown front fork it raises the front of the bike quite a bit. The rear shock is decent enough, and the good thing is you can always swap later if you still want to. Its nice to have the option

[@BoardGameCasualChannel]

@@shootthechit Awesome! Yeah, the front was what I was wondering most about, since the rear is the easier one to swap out. But I think for now I'll just spend the money elsewhere... (The Vee zig zag tires are tempting... not sure about the torque sensor.)

[@lecroixband]

​@@BoardGameCasualChannel I ordered the V zig zag

[@xXsanrioloveeXx]

This is business. And two owners with their passion. Both are great companies. And you get feel good about either purchase. Will ecells make wired bikes and service even better. The answer is yes. And same with ecells. Bottom line is the customer benefits from them both. Everyone who are wired fans should be happy about it and welcome ecells. Cause it’s only going to make future wired bikes better. Period.

[@riverrockoutfitters]

The one thing you missed on pricing, is that Wired is including the additional battery wih every bike! Thats a 699$ value. Offsets the shipping costs from Wired......

[@shootthechit]

Oh, this video was made well before the newer Wired bikes were announced

[@timr31908]

Ecell vs wired..... EcelL wins

[@heavyhitter8972]

FYI, I found out from David Cleavland himself Hentach recommends not exceeding 230 degrees Fahrenheit motor temperature. To turn on motor temp, on the display set C8 to 1.

[@ZeldaVStheworld]

Wired did a bunch of upgrades very recently, including a 2nd battery. 8 other upgrades. Same price. E-cells costs an extra $700 for a 2nd battery..

[@shootthechit]

I saw that, will be interesting to see what happens next. In the end, the consumers win!

[@benhartland4708]

@@shootthechit THIS

[@user-lv2fd9ii3b]

I really like your channel. you are honest about what you like and didn't like about your freedom. You''re the only one around who has mentioned the peddle strikes and gear ratios that you felt should be changed. I also like the hills and trails you ride on. I also appreciate your sense of humor. There. Now that I've sucked up to you, I have a proposition. I bought a Ecells 5 star with a $99 torque sensor. I live in Danville and am suppose to get the bike in April. I was wondering if you might be interested in me bringing it to meet with you so you could do an apples to apples comparison with your freedom. We could ride somewhere. If it's more involved that you want, I get it. I just thought that since we live fairly close it may be something you want to do. Just to let people know. I test rode a Freedom in Sac at a bike shop. With shipping, tax, and their $20 set up fee the bike was around $2500 out the door. I got my 5 star for $1895 with $330 per month for 6 months interest free. Almost $600 cheaper.

[@nolanperry]

You can both bring your bikes to where I live in Walnut Creek and we can do a 3-way bike test with my Lectric XPeak on the Iron Horse Trail right outside my door. Unfortunately I don't have a way to transport this bike yet.

[@shootthechit]

That could be possible. I think the torque sensor bikes won't be available until May. I don't plan further than a week in advance so would have to play it by ear.

[@shootthechit]

@nolanperry I hear they are enforcing a speed limit on the Iron Horse lately, have you seen that happening?

[@nolanperry]

@shootthechit True, not the best place for speed testing:) I've seen signs up, one big scrolling letter sign saying speed limit is 15, but haven't seen enforcement. But I've been gone and then sick, so it's been 2 weeks since I rode.

[@user-lv2fd9ii3b]

I was just reaching out to see if it might be possible. I'll know better when I hear from Ecells about when to expect delivery and when I would get the torque sensor. Now that I know it MIGHT be possible, I'll just wait until I have the bike and reach out to you and @nolaperry about a possible time. I'm not comfortable about riding the Iron horse trail at any speed since there are lots of pedestrians and frequent street crossings. I have a bike rack that can handle 2 100 lb bikes to we could go to some of the trails you show on your channel. @@shootthechit

[@loumon2]

Hi Chit, KZbin viewer here. I checked out their website awhile back and came to the conclusions you are stating (they have had this frame for awhile, etc.). Haters going to hate. You presented good info here. I'll look forward to some actual reviews when this bike is available, I think this bike is even heavier than the Wired. Comment on handling if you ever get to try this. Also would be good to know if it has more pedal to ground clearance than Wired. All bikes have pros and cons.

[@mm-oe7tk]

I bought a wired ebike the same time you did. I love competition and I like hearing what ecells is doing.

[@justinwhite2951]

I liked the video even before I watched it. That's the level you have reached.

[@shanefarley3575]

Just placed my order for the five star from e cells. With your coupon code and the free kit and shipping how a you go wrong. Looks better made than the wired.

[@shootthechit]

Thanks! We will have to see when they are available in person to do a comparison, but it's hard to beat that price and free shipping

[@jdr5445]

Yes, we need to start the healing process Mr. Chit! 🤣👍 BTW, Ecells is not doing anything wrong. If anything, they're offering the consumer good value for the money. Competition among manufacturers is healthy and benefits the consumer.

[@ytpremium7649]

Also e cells better ground clearance whereas wired pedal hits the ground at every slight turn

[@scu-dub]

Man look I absolutely love your channel F#$@! What the haters are saying! I was going to get a wired and I held off and I'm glad because the 2nd model came out and I was like whew!!!! Then I was going to get it and my gut told me to hold off a little....ps....it was after a gyro with extra sauce so it mightve just been gas....but I'm glad I did because now there dropping the "newer" version bigger controller a second battery ect ect....but now idk what to get because honestly I really like the ecells bike and I keep hearing how the frame is alot better than wireds....but the fact that wired is upgrading and keeping the price the same is awesome I'm sure previous buyers are a little p!$$#@....but it's really cool what ecells is doing and I could honestly flip a coin on either bike 👍🏻✌🏼

[@james8226]

I like my Wired Freedom, but taxes, a bogus damage insurance charge, and shipping cost me $500.

[@dawhoda1]

And you still came out with the cheapest bike with 2200 wt 🤡 stop whining

[@james8226]

@dawhoda1 I have purchased 4 ebikes and only one other charged shipping. None charged tax. Any damage should be on the freight company. Just sayin

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

@@dawhoda1no, ecell just came out with 5 stars and price is just $1895 compared to nearly $2500 wired freedom. That’s $600 difference.

[@randonkbay]

It's one or the other, you paid shipping or you paid taxes. Not both. And I bought mine without the insurance and it was delivered into my garage by UPS, you don't have to buy it.

[@Commoncents1000]

@@randonkbay Not sure what you are saying. I paid shipping and State taxes on the Wired.

[@ravenrock541]

There is a flaw in choosing a frame based on your height. The reason is most humans come in two forms. Long torso and short legs or short torso and long legs. Check it out, youll see Im right

[@sysdocray]

They actually call you after placing an order, asking your height & inseam to ensure you ordered the correct frame for your size. Great people to deal with.

[@TrumpIsTheMan]

I never thought I would see a Civil War over two rival E bikes that just goes to show that both the bikes are very nice and you can’t go wrong with either one, in a couple years both bikes will be obsolete as they come out with 70 v. bikes that will do 50 miles an hour. They’re just gonna keep getting better and better, and faster and faster as that is what we the consumers demand.❤

[@davidanderson5432]

Until the government steps in.

[@davidanderson5432]

To save us from ourselves!

[@heavyhitter8972]

FYI, I found out from David Cleavland himself Hentach recommends not exceeding 230 degrees Fahrenheit motor temperature. To turn on motor temp, on the display set C8 to 1.

[@jeremywheeler2122]

Ecells look like they have great variety. I probably wouldn't have gotten either because its generally cheaper to build. But I ended up with a wired due to finding a 2024 for less than half price.

[@groovr22]

Great video, but you were almost too serious for me - Lol..! I have no regrets buying my Wired bikes, but timing is everything. Had I waited 9 months to get into E-Biking, I would've probably gone for an E-Cells bike. But I'm glad I didn't wait. I've really enjoyed my time riding my Wired. I'm looking forward to you getting an E-Cells bike to review.

[@shootthechit]

Oh man, this video took WAY too long to make and by the end was having a real hard time thinking straight.

[@slowmopoke]

Prolly gonna get a five star also and add front motors to each.

[@johntroll7936]

The thing that worries me - a bike is more than the sum of its components.

[@iMotoTactic00L]

Pretty much same parts and both made in china. I won’t hesitate to get ecells bike. its cheaper also and more options parts.

[@jamis0nify]

Ecells just upped their price by $300. That makes the decision pretty easy!

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

I would say it comes down to some options and the programmability of your display. Can you set the power at take off and PAS levels individually? Are the batteries going to be UL certified? Color and shock options are a plus. Are the bikes tuned more for top end or hills? There are a few things to look at.. tire options are great.. Rim finish is nice to see options for.. Drag race!😅

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

I would like to pedal but if a Goat bike can sustain 45 plus with throttle only? I'm going Goat regardless..

[@ralexking]

Hey man could you tell me what the handlebar height is on the dual star? Im wanting a higher riding bike thanks.

[@psuedonymalias]

I'm going to buy an e-cells ebike. save myself $$$$.

[@ShouldaWaved]

Let me know if you get it, curious to hear

[@_TRI66ER]

Silly? It looks so much better with the dual crown fork.

[@daleloch1089]

Great video. I am interested in knowing if the Wired battery will work on this bike and will the E-Cells battery work on the Freedom. When I called E-Cells a few weeks ago they did not have that answer nor did they offer a spare 60volt battery to buy. If you can get this answer; I would greatly appreciate it!

[@shootthechit]

They do offer extra batteries as of now for 699, at least when you buy a bike they do

[@mogeking56]

I have the 1000 watt Ecell Ebike it’s four years old it has 600 miles on it. This Ebike has a GPS system, camera 🎥, 1300 lumen lamp 🪔, horn, no front basket 🧺, new replacement controller.

[@sebumgold3108]

I asked freedom for free shipping on their instock bikes (usually never stocked) after pointed out 5 star with there free shipping, extra accessories, and $100 discount code. My choice was down to these 2 bikes and the SMLRO V3 Plus (AWD 2000w bike at $1300). The owner refused the free shipping despite the gauraunteed sale and competition I highlighted for him. I immediately purchased the SMLRO V3 Plus because shiiping lead time was a week vs the 5 Star bike being an April delivery. My preference was the instock wired bike if the owner would just bend on shipping, which was still more expensive then the 5 star, but came with immediate delivery. I took my extra $950 in saving and bought an Bakcou Trauiler, locks, accessiories, and extra battery.

[@justinsane7128]

Yeah I bought the SM rlo v3 off Alibaba for under 1200, so far so good.

[@sebumgold3108]

@@justinsane7128 I hope it works out well. Slightly less bike and not as steamlined looks wise, but 1 week delivery at that price is a lot of value. I got free shipping. Did you get that off Alibaba?

[@justinsane7128]

@@sebumgold3108 yes added a seat post suspension, bigger seat, mirrors

[@heavyhitter8972]

FYI, I found out from David Cleavland himself Hentach recommends not exceeding 230 degrees Fahrenheit motor temperature. To turn on motor temp, on the display set C8 to 1.

[@jwillwork3683]

My great great great grandfather just murdered me about this conflict. My last words: 60v dual battery dual motor me, He sure did 😂.

[@shootthechit]

Dang that sucks. It needs to stop

[@Ekamwitu]

Is ECELLS better than wired?

[@landsavage]

Thanks for putting my eyes on this bike. This looks pretty sweet! Your outro is so loud dude, need to tone that down, almost crapped my pants

[@Merceralex77]

I'm shipping a Super Monarch to Brazil until the end of the year. Talked to David. Can do it

[@richkraft8709]

Awesome video it not hard to make one’s choice 😊

[@mwfitz9189]

Interesting that ecells also look to be releasing a version with a 3000w dual motor/batteries 60v system and 2 40amp controllers. They would be the first company to do that.

[@e-cells2222]

We have a huge surprise powerhouse comming.

[@mwfitz9189]

@e-cells2222 Awesome! Can't wait to see it when it comes out!

[@rvboondocker2559]

And I think the competition is real….assuming the bike is real

[@BigDsae]

There's no reason to believe the bike isn't real if they've been in business for 5+ years selling much higher priced models. Also E-Cells YT page just posted a video of one with the frame pictured on their website so it seems legit and doesn't seem like a re-branded Wired one.

[@tenncutt]

I agree fully with your opinion of the war! I thought the KZbinr who is the most outspoken about this bike was pretty entertaining but that wore off quickly! Couldn't believe the things she was saying about Ecells. I just went and put the Ecells in the cart and it said your coupon code was over its limit and to try again later. Im 6ft tall. Do you think I should order the 17 or 19" frame. Always enjoy your videos

[@shootthechit]

Cool thanks a lot, I will let them know about the code not working. I'm 6'2 and getting the 17 inch frame for sure.

[@shootthechit]

The code is working again as of now.

[@Btown8]

​@@shootthechitWell chit, maybe I should've ordered the 17 " frame. I'm 6'1" and ordered the 19 ". Maybe I'll call ecells tomorrow and ask them their opinion. Thanks for the great videos!

[@shootthechit]

I would give them a call for sure. Last thing you want to do is end up with a bike that isn't the right size for you. If you haven't seen some of these e-bikes in person, you don't realize how big they are@@Btown8

[@angusmcgil]

i think these days an ebike company should be judged on how well they can bring a bunch of different products together and be funtional and seemless ,not actually that easy, Another aspect is if every company is making their own frames ,ebikes would way more expensive , Myself i prefer to make my own framesi make stealth bomber type bikes, this way i put features in that arnt avaiable like moto cross style suspension ,dual motors, using geared hubs as jack shaft and gearbox in one,batteries i can travell 250 to 300 kilometres before charging,,3 speed overdrive crink sets ,electronic shifting ,and more

[@JCJeffrey]

Best decision I made was not getting the Wired 2024 😊

[@dixienormis3614]

Why do you think that? I have one and it’s so fun. Best ebike out there

[@petepeteyp2298]

Thanks!

[@shootthechit]

Woah, thanks a lot, you didn't need to do that!

[@petepeteyp2298]

@@shootthechit I'm sure there's other people who want to see you grow your channel and brand. I'm excited for you. I would of sent a cash app though because they take a big %. Lol

[@shootthechit]

@@petepeteyp2298 Would you like a t-shirt, I can send you one. I have size M-2xl . Email me at [e-mail] with your info

[@petepeteyp2298]

@@shootthechit okay thank you

[@OU812NVME]

Competition is what makes it great for us the consumer just look at E Cells options he showed us that is what is next...options and frame style...Thx 4 wat U do

[@leonardomohammed5318]

TORGUE???? I have been googling Torgue vs Torque and cant find anything can anyone Explain what is Torgue and why its using same SI units as Torque?

[@iwastoldtherewouldbenomath6869]

I'd like to see some fins integrated into the rear hub for heat dissipation. Curious as to why that hasn't been done yet.

[@shootthechit]

You know, on my climbing test video I had the motor up to 280 degrees and the shell of it wasn't very hot. Makes me wonder efficient it would dissipate the heat even with fins

[@iwastoldtherewouldbenomath6869]

@@shootthechit Perhaps but at that temperature it shortens the life of the motor itself. Nylon melts at 428 F but 280 F is awfully hot. The thermal mass of the hub itself could be absorbing heat. Any drop in temp is a good thing though. If you have a FLiR or perhaps even a laser thermometer I'd love to see the temps of the motor housing.

[@shootthechit]

but... that would require math @@iwastoldtherewouldbenomath6869

[@iwastoldtherewouldbenomath6869]

@@shootthechit sonofabitch. You did it!

[@triggeraa]

Fins wont cool very much on a geared hub motor. Fins and stator fluid work to cool on direct drive motors. The potted exposed controller on the Ecells is the winner. An overheated controller will shut the whole show down.

[@robertmcgee7083]

Can only speak on my wicked bike, fast and no issues after one year and 400 miles. Great bike!

[@shootthechit]

Nice, I have had my Wired Cruiser since September and have just over 1000 miles on it and have had no issues (that were not self inflicted) as well. The build a good bike

[@scottl.5212]

If anything the five stars bike is going to hurt his existing bikes!

[@scooter2213]

The Wired Freedom probably already did that. That's why ecells had to resort to making a better and cheaper copy of the Wired Freedom.

[@multi-task5909]

Thanks for the review.

[@terryrccrazy6993]

Great video and information. It would be nice to have one of your t shirts to show off up here in Canada

[@shootthechit]

I will have to see how much shipping prices are to Canada. I know in the US I use a flat rate envelope so its not too bad.

[@terryrccrazy6993]

@@shootthechit It's ok, I don't expect you to pay shipping here, but thanks. I enjoy your channel

[@PathtoYahawah]

They both look like Juiced Bikes design.

[@_80210]

​@shootthechit Great video with great details! I've been going back and forth between the Five Star & the Freedom. After watching this video, I'm definitely leaning towards the Five Star. I do have a question that I'm hoping you can help me with. Which frame (17" or 19") for the Five Star is comparable to the size of the Freedom frame? Thanks again for your videos and your humor is an added bonus!

[@shootthechit]

Pretty sure the 17 would be the comparable model

[@_80210]

@@shootthechit Great! Thanks for the feedback!

[@user-ht3hm9ng8s]

The 17” is the comparable frame.

[@TheE-LightenedArtist]

Ain't it weird where the Cosmos puts us? I thought I was making garage tinker videos. Made a few vids on my new ebike and a year later...freaking Ebike Channell?!?! Ha! We do wut does us LOL. Anyway, cool videos. Shoot The Chit all DAY! Cheers!

[@ravenrock541]

I have yet to find an ebike that is built the way I would design for my needs

[@e-cells2222]

Would love to hear your design of your best bike, seriously.

[@jcolt84]

For some reason I'm just now seeing this video. Not sure if I commented before, to tell you what I was told by someone really prominent in one of these two e-bike companies that you're talking about on here. Anyways, I was told with confidence, that citizen cycle wanted $300 for each & every five-star bike that Is sold through his affiliate link, if indeed he agreed to review the bike on his KZbin channel.

[@Angel283]

Really wanted a point by point side by side comparison. I was disappointed. Honestly the comment section of these types of videos are far more informative than the actual video.

[@shootthechit]

The Five Star wasn't available when this video was made. There will be comparison videos at some point I'm sure.

[@bassw1758]

But the thing about E cells is up until now, they've always been so expensive for what they are, this sounds personal

[@elliottedwards7778]

Privatize social security lol. And Iv paid in for about 24 years

[@Sanesaint1]

Too bad the batteries are 800 maybe by the time the bike runs out the price will come down

[@kevinduprey9326]

The "loyalty" that people feel towards a Chinese company is hilarious. Buy what you like at best price. Wired wouldn't send flowers to your funeral if bike turns you into a Krispy critter...

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

OMG....MAD MAGAZINE....You ARE CULTURED!!!!!

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Great video! Great job! I hope he sends you multiple bikes!!

[@shootthechit]

I really liked MAD magazine as a kid. Got lucky last year and picked up a collection of over 100 issues for cheap. Hung up the ones I remember having growing up. Sad they don't make new issues anymore

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

@@shootthechit ...truth. Me too.....and believe it or not, reading MAD or others....helps your vocabulary and stimulate your brain....... If I needed a new "traditional looking bike," I would buy one of those Ecells.....with YOUR code. :) Don't tell Alex..... ha ha ha....

[@shootthechit]

IM TELLING@@IMBruceECLECTIC

[@gofly1878]

I love my 2024 wired freedom and come to find out the whole bike is UL listed .Ecells cant say that.

[@tenncutt]

Actually it's not yet

[@jcolt84]

I purchased a wired freedom a few months back, and it drove me crazy thinking about the months which I could have potentially been forced to wait, before ever receiving the wired freedom. So my dumbass canceled the order because I was so impatient and I purchased @ brand new Onyx cty2, which very well may have been the last, if not one of the last bikes that Onyx ever made. I woke up the very next morning, and saw an email from, wired telling me that my bike was in stock, and they were shipping them out. I'm being sincere, when I say that I still tear up thinking about that email! I wanted that bike so freaking bad, and I managed to cancel my freaking order just hours before they arrived to their warehouse and we're being shipped out! It devastates me. So much so, that I can't even really enjoy my Onyx to the fullest, because for so long there I wanted that damn wired freedom, wink so bad! Don't get me wrong, my cty too is a legit moped, and it goes really fast, but in all reality, it doesn't really matter how much more powerful my current bike is, or how crappy the wired freedom potentially might have been, because I'll never be happy with any other bike, other than the bike I was ignorant enough to let slip right through my hands.

[@shootthechit]

That's some serious regret, I imagine this is going to take years In therapy lol. What timing is that right? one freaking day

[@banditroxy2]

There is a problem with your audio cutting out in this video. I'd fire the audio engineer!

[@shootthechit]

He has been fired. Was it really cutting out? I didn't hear that happening.

[@banditroxy2]

​@@shootthechitthe audio had issues starting around 1:36. The KZbin verse really wants to know what it takes to get a white Freedom 😊

[@Sanesaint1]

If you ask me they're both cheap they don't have a layaway plan like most of them

[@SPEARHEADGLOBAL]

Nephew against sister

[@shootthechit]

I knew I left something out

[@SciD1]

Still, they definitely knew which bike they were competing against...

[@dsjeffress]

I wanted to watch this video but the constant loud beeping got too annoying..

[@shootthechit]

I know explaining a joke ruins it... but there is an ongoing gag on my channel where I never explain how I got my White Wired Freedom, so the beeping is censoring and only in a short segment.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Stalkers.....watch out.....

[@UncleJam5624]

This is a brand new bike? I don't know Mr Chit $2,000 is a lot to be a beta tester. But looking at the prices of their other bikes, the price may be a lot cheaper now than later. 🤔

[@jfly2249]

Competition is great but the way e cells has gone about it by trolling Wired’s Facebook page is pathetic. Regardless, e cells may soon have a come to Jesus moment when Wired fully responds. Funny thing is, the real competition isn’t between e cells and Wired, it’s 60v versus all those weak 48v bikes. Btw, who would buy one of ecells insanely overpriced awd bikes when their least expensive model will destroy it? E cells has shot itself in the foot and Wired will finish the job in due course.

[@BigDsae]

I have no horse in this race but if E-Cells has been in business for 5 years selling 'overpriced awd bikes' then someone is buying them. If E-Cells is making money on the Five Star, there's no way they are shooting themselves in the foot but growing the brand by expanding to a larger audience that want these "affordable" high powered eBikes. What can Wired do to "finish the job" on E-Cells really?

[@J.D.Vision]

Unless they upgrade all of their AWD models to 60V. 🤷

[@user-ht3hm9ng8s]

Mr Fly, When your Wired Freedom shuts down because the controller over heats, it will be a good time to take a lunch break yourself to cool down and replenish your energy for the ride home.

[@rabbithomesteading3797]

As a Wired owner they have shipped me parts I ruined for free. I told them I ruined it in a crash and I will pay. Shipping and part all free in my mailbox. I support that. Now 5 star eCells do that then I may consider but have to prove. To new to show. I will happily pay more for a company that can prove they will take care of you. And eCell at the moment has no proof. But maybe down the line they can so not digging on them just too new of a model. And that just made me realize the company I guess has been around. Has anybody heard anything good on costumer support on the other models? I haven't but haven't looked either. Hmm

[@shootthechit]

I agree with you about Wired, they have good customer support. They sent me a power switch for free which I broke myself. Time will tell with E-Cells, but having talked to the owner I have a good feeling about it

[@rabbithomesteading3797]

@@shootthechitThats cool you talked to them and seem legit! And interesting enough the power switch was also what I broke. lol The clamp wouldn't tighten anymore but still worked. The battery my fault shorting out they responded and shipped quick that I ruined and payed. Then tore other apart and there is an internal automotive fuse in there so if you ever have any issues check that out before you freak out thinking you ruined your battery. I later told them about it and was surprised they didn't know about the fuse and thanked me for letting them know. Wish they would announce that and let everyone know there is an internal fuse. Im sure they out source them and have no idea on construction. But yay I have a spare! lol

[@shootthechit]

How did you short it out?@@rabbithomesteading3797

[@rabbithomesteading3797]

@@shootthechit I was trying to get a direct voltage out of it after near 40 mile ride to compare with display and my meter prongs connected. Direct short. I quit even trying to check and have no idea just going to hope display read it right. lol

[@rabbithomesteading3797]

Also the display battery bars in battery still worked but connected to bike nothing. Replace fuse all good.

[@mpbikes1972]

Ill laugh when they dont send you a bike lol. We know where your alliance is, and you talk negative before about htem

[@mpbikes1972]

@@user-bd5nd6ne3c so how many fake accounts do you have lol.. this guy is funny he slams ecells then is kissing the ceo ass in this video.. hahahaha these bike influencers are a joke

[@missingdigitalfoot]

I can't get over how ugly it looks. The aesthetics aren't there. The weird little humps in the frame where it connects like webbing between toes. Wiring management and placement is suspect to me. It has a very industrial, just good enough to get it out door type constructions Those sloppy amateur hour welds. I hope the final product gets significant polish and attention to the details before shipment. It's nearly $2K and it looks like a Walmart special. No sir. I don't like it all.

[@triggeraa]

Yeah, agreed the Wired needs to up their game.

[@rvboondocker2559]

First….

[@shootthechit]

You win!

[@eustacecourage7478]

How dare you imply that your demographic skews to an older audience. Are you giving us,um them,the twenty three skiddoo? I thought this channel was the cat's meow, the bee's knees. There is a rift and you just tore it wide open, you whipper snapper. I'm staying subbed because I don't know how to unsub, you know, this new technology stuff. Other than that, good video.

[@shootthechit]

haha, that was a real knee slapper

[@gregorysmall9284]

As a boomer, I resemble that remark!😂😂😊

[@dmcg9066]

Maaaaaan …. Did you get the white Wired step through from Tyrone ?!?! He’s a crafty ninja !!!