Addressing The Yammie Noob "Scam" Drama

I honestly wasn’t even planning on addressing the recent “riding pants drama”…but I got enough questions from you guys that I figured I should speak my piece.
Agree with me, agree with YammieNoob, I really don’t care either way as long as you form your OWN opinion, and that opinion leads to you picking the proper riding gear for your needs, that you’ll actually wear consistently.
Personally, NBT is the only riding gear company I’ve found that makes protective gear that I ACTUALLY find myself wearing on every ride. Everything else has been so uncomfortable/cumbersome/ugly that it just spent most of its time on the shelf while I stayed in regular jeans and a t-shirt. And I’m willing to bet that NBT is putting riding gear on people who wouldn’t normally wear it, at a MUCH higher pace than most (or any) other riding gear companies out there, for that exact reason.
Even if you think NBT is only 85% as protective as the gear Yammie recommended (hypothetically), I’d rather be 85% protected 100% of the time, than 100% protected 15% of the time.
And I shouldn’t even have to say this, but no, NBT is not paying me to say any of this or post any of this. They don’t even know I’m posting it.
-------------------------------------------------
Find ALL my links and discount codes here!- www.LifeOfBurc...
Support the channel through Patreon!- / lifeofburch
Send me something cool!-
1290 Bay Dale Dr, PMB 344
Arnold, MD 21012-2325

[@LifeOfBurch]

Agree with me, agree with YammieNoob, I really don’t care either way as long as you form your OWN opinion, and that opinion leads to you picking the proper riding gear for your needs, that you’ll actually wear consistently. If you decide to wear Yammie’s recommended pants, use his link so he gets paid- tinyurl.com/YammiePants And if you decide to wear NBT, use code GIXXERBRAH to get 15% off your order and help with GixxerBrah’s lawyer fees- www.nbtclothing.com

[@MotoDash1100]

Hahaha. Mad props for not recommending your own code.

[@bobbyjoesugar]

LOL was not expecting the Brahs promo code 😂

[@z9brigade]

Brah has a code? That's awesome 🤣

[@RTJsims]

Prop's for the video. Honestly, I've completely ignored him as primary content. Unsubscribed the moment he fired spite. This is the same guy who likes to stack the deck against things he doesnt like in his reviews. If you dont believe me, go watch his latest RnineT video.. where he rode the entire review in rain mode.. bitching and moaning about how "anemic" the bike was... No, Im not joking.

[@jayaneyon9316]

Gixxer brah doesn't wear gear so ofc he likes those pants lmao

[@aadam2121]

I’m not the biggest YN fan, but after low siding at less than 30mph and my NBT Aramids being the only PPE that failed I’ll avoid the brand. Especially after they reacted to their “guarantee” and deleted IG comments. I appreciate your response video and how well it’s done. I’d say the issue that should be and is being addressed is with YN himself, and how he handled the review. After my Rev’it and Alpine Stars gear holding up great for most of the slide and the NBTs shredding (at the knee aramid and armor section), I’ll never ride in NBTs again. At least not with any expectation of protection. I found a company in Canada called Ride Rich that makes really comfortable CE certified pants with CE-2 armor at the knees and hips. They’re pricier, but not Rev’it expensive and feel like they will actually protect if needed. Road rash is a pain, but especially on a knee - I don’t want to repeat that!

[@Mikkel111]

This comment needs to be farther up... I'll never trust a company that doesn't have a CE-rating for PE. Both my pants and jacket are AAA.

[@MadWilli]

I’ve had 6 pairs of nbt pants not one lasted me more than a 2 months. Ride rich lasted me an entire year which consisted of 20k+ miles 3-4 crashes.

[@Mikkel111]

@@MadWilli Do you ever stop to wonder… Why do I crash all the time?

[@MadWilli]

@@Mikkel111 every single time, it eats at me for days, weeks, or months till I figure out exactly what caused it, what to look out for and things that I could’ve done in that moment to have saved the bike or myself. I realized a lot of riders don’t crash because they barely ride, they only ride in perfect conditions, and/or the area they ride in is low to mid danger area. My first 2 years of riding I did 57k+ miles in all weather conditions from 12-107F degrees, rain or shine. Instead of running from the hazards I wanted to learn from them so I truly understood how to ride. The first 3-4 months I had my 660 I put 17k miles.

[@Yowzoe]

@@MadWilli wow, that is a lot of motorcycle riding I'm just getting back into it, I've only ever done fair-weather riding, and I think that's my future as well, but… Respect I'll check Ride Rich. My number one priority is protection on my old bod.

[@vladimirardelean3655]

I don't like Yammie but to be fair here is kinda right, the NBT has no certification but is almost the same price as the well known certified/tested brands.

[@Spikeg7]

This^

[@snwbrdbum14]

If we're gonna go down that road... let's talk about the DOT certification. It's literally just an honor-code sticker on helmets. There's no actually testing by the DOT, they just trust that manufacturers will meet their (out of date and highly flawed) safety standards.

[@vladimirardelean3655]

@@snwbrdbum14 everybody recommends both dot(for legal) and ece (for actual protection). But is not only the certification, is the actual features. If i have to choose between 2 items that look similar and have almost the same price guess what i'm picking.

[@kokobeatz7222]

@@snwbrdbum14whole separate rating system for a different piece of gear. If you wanna go down that rabbit whole. Every certification including doctorate degrees are bull crap and every person is that. Human and we all mess up at some point. Lol

[@ChadrikThunderCaulk]

​@@snwbrdbum14 CE rating is euro. NBT has no a, aa, AAA rating. Its a good rating system

[@Adventure_blac]

Buy what u want but if they aren’t CE rated I’d pass on them. They aren’t even cheap enough to consider over brands that are CE rated. Not just the armor

[@williamva1544]

If as you say NBT is putting people in riding gear at a higher pace…how is that? For the price you can buy a quality CE rated alternative. I’m on the website and NBT is selling non-rated products for just as much as A tier brands. Never mind shopping sales. Good CE rated gear is comfortable. My Knox is comfy, my Revi’t is comfy, my Pando Moto is comfy.

[@cali5ive124]

Yammie has always been kind of an "im better than you" feel

[@kusuko..scla..213]

Facts

[@PATTT_]

not really, you know burch DMed every clothing brand out there and only got sponsored by NBT, trust me if he can switch over to saint he would do it in a heart beat

[@take2studio187]

I agree. How many of his videos are him slamming every kind of bike rider except for his style of riding. If you don’t ride a desert sled and race at the track on the weekend, you are a squid douch that doesn’t know what riding is all about.

[@SubWaySpiderman]

He does live in Austin, Texas. The least Texan city there is full of pretentious bastards.

[@danieldoyle253]

@@PATTT_ Yam has always conveyed a perspective of superiority. That’s where the luxury truck and Porsche come from duh. Ducatisa turbo busa track bro etc. it’s all for image sales what KZbin is based on

[@jvillain9946]

You know you can just mold whatever they into the pad right? They could mold it to say CE rated x 1,000,000 but that doesn't mean it is. Just like how Chinese ballistic vest say theyre rated for 50 cal but crumple under a 9mm

[@Mell_Motorsports]

"Wearing gear is not cool" has got to be some the dumbest shit I have heard a motovloger say.

[@python2400]

He's stating the popular opinion. Doesn't mean it's his own.

[@RealAnimeBadGuy]

@@python2400its still really stupid

[@R1squid]

To be fair some gear does look lame as fug

[@rafaelbondoc2312]

Right? I've never heard anyone say that and if you're in any riding facebook group you will get flamed for posting a pic not wearing gear. We out here trying to have fun while staying alive

[@jmackinjersey1]

@@python2400 You mean the unpopular opinion.

[@keji5488]

No hate to you whatsoever but personally I think nbt and most “armoured” clothes are pretty low quality for the price you might aswell get something from a reputable brand

[@vincentmamotos9937]

Consumer perspective here, I bought NBT pants before they started hiring all these motovloggers. Wish I wouldve saved the few dollars to have bough the alpinestars denim jean instead. Looking back at it now, I wouldnt have purchased NBT. Too generic, fit is off, pads are meh. Really just screams influencer brand to me. And I dont even watch Yammie Noob. If youre looking for riding gear, save some money and buy some top notch gear.

[@LifeOfBurch]

I appreciate the perspective! As much as people think this is a paid video, it’s not, so I can say…yea the quality wasn’t that great at first a couple years back 😂 but it’s honestly SOOO much better now! Especially with the switch to aramid. After all this commotion, I’ll probably try some Alpinestars pants or something similar just to really see how they compare. Which ones do you rock? Got a link?

[@MotoDash1100]

Fwiw, if you're an Average Height American, I'd say go Rev'It instead of Alpinestars. Great quality, lower cost (you pay a fair amount for just the AStars logo/hype/branding), and more variety in colorways (last I checked anyways). If you're a Tall Height & Semi-wide American (6'5" with 40 inch waist for example), Klim Pants are my suggestion. I've worn both Klim and Rev'It, Rev'It I like for the: Price Tag, the Tornado 3 Jacket has more pocket spots than my Klim Induction Pro, and for coming with a inner-liner (removable) at the cost. I like Klim because: they have measurements listed for their sleeve length, and also an XL Klim fits my XL frame better than an XL Rev'It does (1 inch short on torso length, about half an inch on sleeve length) Anywho.. Alpinestars... they run small in the American market, I'd need to buy a 2XL Glove if I order their gloves, my cousin (6'4" and a 36 waist) I took to local motorcycle dealer to get him fitted with jacket and such.. the XL Alpinestars jacket we grabbed at a Honda dealership looked like he was trying to squeeze into a Medium Skinny Tee, we went across the street to a Euro Motorcycle dealership (I was showing him Honda bikes, but wanted to try to see if the Euro Bike shop had gloves from Held, a German company) and we saw they had Klim over there, he put on a XL Klim jacket, it was snug on him, but not unwearable. (I'm tall and wide hips, he's tall and less-wide hips but more stomach/chest than me for context, my build for stomach and chest is Average) TL;DR Triple Check the sizing chart, and use RevZilla if you haven't. Rev'It is a very decent brand for the cost/value ratio. Klim is great if you have a big American frame (tall and/or wide sense) but if the sleeve length is fine, and you can just size-up for torso length, Rev'It is what I'd go with.

[@Gfoke]

As another who bought NBT. I echo what you said. I'm pretty short and the legs are too long(and the only smaller size has the same length legs), the armor isn't gonna be in the right spot. are they probably better than some run of the mill jeans? probably, but not nearly enough to justify the cost.

[@dangoldbach6570]

Wearing gear isn’t cool??? PHUK that! I couldn’t give a crap LESS what anyone thinks. Anyone who thinks that hasn’t ate shit yet and walked away with just scratches and bruises and NOT being the next crayola meat crayon color.

[@100100toxic]

Lol I was thinking the same and for him saying they are uncomfortable to wear but they'll break in and your body will adapt to wearing gear

[@olexandrs3385]

Agree. If I ever buy a moto first thing I do next- I'll buy some good full gear

[@plutr0nium]

I'll be honest, I don't comment on KZbin videos often, but this was about as good a response video as you could have made. I've only recently become interested in motorcycles, after getting a 50cc scooter last year, so I admittedly watch Yammie Noob. Not because I like him, but because I am just obsessed with watching videos about motorcycles all the time. I imagine his video brought a lot of eyes towards you in particular, but the way you break down the situation was very well thought out. The point about some gear's value/relevance is in simply being a gateway for those that wouldn't normally wear anything, is valid and an important point to make. Obviously, pointing out the false equivalencies and those sneaky affiliate links was a nice touch too. Keep up the good work.

[@LifeOfBurch]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@post_cancer_beautycandyjon1049]

A fellow scooter learner! I was too nervous to start out on a bike so I bought a 150cc chinese scooter. Hows it going for you? Im banging up my ankles pretty bad, and my riding is going great im just having a little trouble with starting and stopping and not panicking and getting the wobble lol. Im also obsessed with watching motorcycle videos. Have you decided on a sportsbike or cruiser yet for when you get your first bike? I keep teetering back and fourth.

[@plutr0nium]

@@post_cancer_beautycandyjon1049 I still love riding my scooter. I moved a little bit away from the beach, so my surroundings aren't as casual as they were, but I'm able to navigate pretty well in slower speed areas. Otherwise, no issues. I've always been pretty good with bike/dirtbike/scooter balance, so I've got the technique down comfortably. As for what bike, still unsure. I have a gift certificate to take my MSF course within the next month or so. I still like the Rebel 500 SE or the Eliminator. Kind of leaning away from a sport bike. So yeah, same as you, I have no idea. Lmfao

[@LinkFelton]

Personally, I was never the biggest Yammie Noob fan and after he fired Spite, I completely lost all respect for him. He's a subpar KZbinr who got butt hurt his co-host was more liked than him. I've always thought his constant, 4 bike giveaways on his store were a super scam as well. Maybe he does actually give them away but he's CONSTANTLY got them going on to drum more attention to him for the views. That says something if a KZbinr has to always have a giveaway going just to get people to come back or even watch his content to begin with.

[@packgrog]

I ONLY watched for Spite. I always hated Yam. The dude is just irritating as hell.

[@sabref4i290]

lol mabey he gives bikes away ok my guy

[@neonsamurai1348]

Ya that video where he fired Spite and put it on his channel for views, then took it down after all the justified flack he got over it and how he handled it, showed him to be a cowardly, nasty, and utterly self centered individual. I unsubscribed and blocked his videos after that. Honestly his videos to be mostly useless/sensationalized anyways.

[@aidan6557]

​​@@packgrogI don't even like spite, I find him boring. But I subscribe and try support him because he was done dirty by scammy pube

[@langhamp8912]

I was curious as to what it takes to win one of his "giveaway" bikes. Technically, it is a giveaway motorcycle as it doesn't require buying anything to win; but to do so would require you handwrite a contest entry on a 3 by 5 card in order to get 250 entries while platinum tier would give you 10,000 entries. Functionally, it works as a paid lottery as, realistically, 250 entries would be heavily diluted; since there's no certification if a 3 by 5 card is received then who is to keep track if 3 by 5 entries get "lost". I wouldn't enter his sweepstakes (paid or free) because the odds are unknown and unknowable. It's just a wealth transfer from poor to rich.

[@dinospumoni8860]

To each their own, but I thought yammis video was very informative and unbiased… also you mentioned nbt had different lines of pants. Have you done any videos comparing the different lines they have?

[@Knives6Nine]

thats such a shame, i've been binging all of the Yammie Noob catalog of videos since i've recently decided to get into motorcycles. I found myself really liking the Spite hosted videos and wasnt aware that he wasnt even working there anymore let alone got fired on camera. I did however see the pants video and thought it was weird since I might be new to motorcycles but i'm not new to content creation and felt like going after brands like that when no one asked for it was kinda scummy. Damn well I got some thinking to do but thanks for the informative video Burch. Love the content, i've also been binging the back catalog and gotta say you've sold me on the Rebel 1100, pretty sure that will be my first bike! ride on man!

[@LifeOfBurch]

Happy to help dude! Some of his stuff is helpful, but some of it isn’t the best. Just make sure to use your best judgement! And yea Spite’s been gone for like a year and a half unfortunately. Thanks for the support and welcome to the world of riding! 🏍️🤘🏻

[@djakasha]

Spite went and started his own channel. I think it's called Spite's corner. After I watched the video where he was fired I immediately unsubscribed and now refuse to watch any of yammie noob videos

[@Schaden81]

​@@djakashaI think a lot of his old viewers immediately left, especially when Spite's Corner exploded overnight.

[@sgtgrash]

​@djakasha Me too man! Yammie can go take a hike on the turnpike for all I care...

[@Dragoninja833]

@@djakasha Me too. I watch every Spite video thogh! He just did a colab with Jake the Garden Frog!

[@ChadWinters]

Havent watched Yammie since the Spite thing

[@jvillain9946]

Why? Spite is doing way better now. Yammie taught him everything he needed to know about running a successful youtube channel. Now he's doing his own thing, has his own brand and is making more than he ever has. I don't agree with the firing, but you can't say it didn't benefit Spite

[@Return_oftheMack]

Personally, I was mostly watching Yammie’s channel because of Spite and much preferred videos where he was more prominent. So in that case, Spite was benefiting him. Now I can watch him on his own channel and don’t have to be annoyed listening to Yammie haha

[@jiggy7719]

I really only watched Yammie for his meme videos and the banter between him and Spite. Overall, I liked Spite more because he always seemed to go into more detail when they were reviewing bikes. I'm glad Spite was able to recover and start up his own thing, but I never could watching another Yammie video. He just doesn't seem like a person I want to support just based of his reaction to the situation.

[@Jordan-M-18-06]

​@jvillain9946 probably because he liked Spite more and watches his channel now.

[@AnotherComment-rl6fv]

Yammie is a trash reviewer, he has that Logan Paul scam energy

[@Andreionwheels]

So did I really hear "better to not use gear at all than use something slightly uncomfortable"? It's protective equipment meant to keep you safe when kissing the asphalt, not a f***g tracksuit... Gateway drug to protection?! Dude... it's THE most important thing related to your bike! DO NOT cheap out when buying gear, cheap out on your bike if you are financially challenged in any way...

[@DamianJablonski-li2rw]

Imagine if we had KZbinrs who had a pair of balls and researched the companies that sponsor them instead of immediately getting defensive and pretending like selling non protective gear as protective gear isn’t a scumbag move

[@thee_jd302]

For what it's worth, I low sided into a guard rail at about 25-30mph while wearing the NBT LTR pants. The pants never ripped, the hip protection (ngl, laughably thin pads) padded my hip and I walked away with minimal injury. You made some good points, these were more protective than what I would have been wearing normally. The video of me going down will eventually be on my channel, probably in the next couple months.

[@shauns5278]

Thing is I've low sided in regular Lucky jeans going 30~ and they held up. It really depends on how you land. Most of us will go arms first so our jacket will take most of the impact and abrasion. Also low siding you're likely still with your bike for the initial portion of the slide give your legs some leverage and likely the tip of your shoe getting the abrasion. In my case it was mostly my right shoulder and elbow and front of my shoe that got burned and eaten by the pavement. My jeans just had some dirt and light scuffing. I will admit even the NBT jeans, long as it's the aramid paneled version, are probably better than the majority of regular fashion jeans but even then not by much and are grossly over priced. You can get actual Aramid woven, not lined, jeans from brands like Noru for $70-80. Fully abrasion rated and armored jeans from Oxford or Dainese for under $200.

[@thee_jd302]

@@shauns5278 You're right. I have the Flat Out Bar on my FXLRS and that probably did more than any gear because it kept my leg from getting pinned. I bent the thing like 30 degrees when I went down. I had a little bit of road rash on my elbow because I was wearing a mesh jacket but it wasnt even noticeable at first. I did fracture my thumb because I was holding on until the end trying to keep her upright. My gloves couldnt have done anything about that. Do I regret buying those LTR pants? Not really because it was an upgrade. Will I consider different pants in the future knowing what I know now? Absolutely.

[@sythonslays]

I remember watching your videos from a couple years ago when I was considering getting a Rebel. Came back a couple months ago and started watching again, I personally go to your videos because you seem like genuine person who just loves bikes and riding. Keep doing your thing and supporting the things you like 💯

[@kusuko..scla..213]

Cuz of this guy i got my 2024 1100 rebel and i love the bike

[@kenbowlus2995]

Yammie talking crap about influencer marketing has to be one of the biggest cases of "the pot calling the kettle black" that I've seen in my 60 years on this planet. Every single one of his videos contains a sponsored ad with an affiliate link. His entire website and web presence exists ONLY because of influencer marketing.

[@think.culture]

I think there’s a difference when you are advertising a quality product vs a Chinese drop shipped underperforming knock off product.

[@RafaelReyesJr]

A High End Pimp is still a PIMP

[@vrcshortys152]

He gets sponsored by high quality well known and trusted brands. HUGE difference

[@joshmitchusson5741]

@@think.culture Dang, youbeat me to the response! lol

[@spartanx169x]

True, But YN points still stand about the piss poor quality of NBT and similar.

[@Jordan-M-18-06]

I've always thought Yammie seemed like someone who enjoys the smell of his own farts, and when he fired Spite, it basically confirmed it.

[@mattrosenberg6108]

lol savage :'D

[@kokobeatz7222]

lol you don’t? Must not be a man

[@Jordan-M-18-06]

@@kokobeatz7222 I'm just not a smug s.o.b, never watched South Park I suppose?

[@kokobeatz7222]

@@Jordan-M-18-06 nah. I have better things to do with my time. Like smell my farts.

[@adamlanglois563]

It seemed almost like WWF style drama with yam playing the bad guy. I'm glad spite hulked out and slammed his way to 100k subscribers

[@strwbrrysoda]

13:58 Hey Burch, this line about traditional riding gear not being cool and how it makes people look like a derogatory stereotype didn’t sit well with me - particularly given some of your other statements in the video about how you didn’t realize you had more influence than you thought, how that made you reconsider wearing some form of riding gear, how people should make their own decisions, etc. as well as your overall positive vibe in other videos. I get that wearing more traditional riding gear isn’t your personal preference - which is fine - but why bash folks who choose to wear it and make it seem like they’re somehow “less than” by wearing it? At the end of the day, we all have different risk tolerances and we choose different gear / activities as a result but we do it because we genuinely enjoy riding and the more folks who ride the safer things get for all of us.

[@LifeOfBurch]

I think you misinterpreted what I said, or I maybe didn’t speak clearly. I wasn’t saying that’s how *I* view people who wear traditional gear, I was saying that from experience, the people in that age range or riding style don’t wear traditional gear because that’s how *they* perceive themselves, or fear *others* perceive them. For example, when I first started riding, I didn’t wear traditional gear cause I thought I didn’t “look cool” with it on, or I thought people would think I looked like a nerd. I’d rather “look cool” than be safe, especially at a time in life/age range where I still thought I was indestructible. Now that I’m older and can feel it in my bones when the rain is coming in because of all my previous injuries, I rock gear 😂 BUT lots of the people who are still in that age range/mentality, don’t rock gear at all because of how they perceive it. And I think NBT is helping to bridge that gap and help to make gear perceived as “cool” for the people who are still in that group. Hopefully that made sense!! Thanks for your perspective, and sorry for any confusion! 🤘🏻

[@koron007]

He's not bashing. He's stating the opinion of the typical young rider.

[@Foodgeek]

I have triple A-rated jeans and a triple A-rated jacket. Not taking any unnecessary risks :)

[@MotoDash1100]

Can't say I blame ya, the like 1 AAA jacket I saw was a Badlands Pro A3, which I guess for what it's worth it's "only" $300 more expensive than regular Badlands Pro jacket but it's still 1.4k so.. yeah.. If ya got AAA rated gear, GREAT on ya (not just "good on ya"), but damn does AAA rated gear have a paywall and a half..

[@Loelia_Ponsonby]

​@@MotoDash1100 Depends on your style/riding use but there are budget options. John Doe V2 XTM Motorcycle Hoodie is AAA for ~$230 (plus $25 back protector). For jeans, Bull-It Guardian are $215. MC Gear Hub has a good list of gear by CE ratings to narrow it down.

[@MotoDash1100]

New drinking game: take a shot every time "cotton" and/or "spandex" is said.

[@LifeOfBurch]

🍻🍻🍻

[@jauken83]

Welp, now I'm in the hospital...

[@kuso3079]

Panderx an fotten be gert wen raiden. Noice gayme buy de weigh. 👌

[@chrisw.1090]

Yami is right about those cheap knock off copy pants, which won't protect you at all. They are cheap copy cat crap, and you don't like it because the copy cat crap company sponsers you! That is pretty obvious. The are NOT CE RATED so you should not recommend them. Cotton and spandex has no abrasion resistance at all and is the same as wearing regular blue jeans.

[@vizualjockey4419]

He clearly doesn’t know much about fabrics because abrasion resistant fabrics weave aramid fibers into the denim itself or double/triple stitch an afraid layer under the outer heavy duty denim. The fact that he’s complaining about being called out for regular denim is concerning. His affiliation with the company should come with an apology and a disclaimer that later products will be certified but as of right now, they are not and do not perform as they advertise. Plenty of stuff is made in china, I agree, that doesn’t make them inherently bad, what makes them bad is not being built to standard. Just because it’s a new company doesn’t give them a pass to sell a product that doesn’t do what it says on the tin so to speak.

[@jasonmeador124]

Burch - thanks for posting your response. I agree that Yammie is a weasel but he has some good points. The CE ratings for gear and the ECE Rating for helmets are important. Shop the sales, get the best gear you can afford and protect your ass as best you can. Everybody has a hard get off sooner or later.

[@DanDryfhout]

Don’t agree with Yammie’s points, but man- they’re not even abrasion resistant? Looking at their site and realizing that the fabric isn’t CE rated is definitely a red flag for me.

[@LifeOfBurch]

Just because something isn’t CE abrasion rated doesn’t mean it isn’t actually abrasion resistant, it just means it doesn’t have the official rating. For example, there’s plenty of helmets that are just DOT rated that may also pass the ECE rating, they just don’t have the actual rating because they didn’t opt to pay for the additional testing…if that makes sense. There’s a lot that goes into the actual rating. So their current pants have the aramid lining which is abrasion resistant and does waayyy more than regular denim, but not officially rated, and then they currently have an AA abrasion rated pant in the works, it’s just taking longer than expected with the whole process of the rating, getting the fit right with the stiffer materials needed, etc. Hopefully that makes sense. Definitely appreciate your perspective 🤘🏻

[@DanDryfhout]

@@LifeOfBurch Definitely makes sense. Hopefully they get them tested to get certified. I don’t mind you being sponsored by them at all, I just wouldn’t buy them until they do have the certification as I won’t know their abrasion resistance until I really need it.

[@LifeOfBurch]

@@DanDryfhout I can respect that 100%! Hopefully we’ll see the new AA pants ASAP! 🤞🏻🤘🏻

[@BobbyMiller3]

CE rating is a European Union thing just FYI

[@shauns5278]

​@@LifeOfBurch my biggest issue with NBT is they're charging a similar price to fully CE certified gear. If they were charging $80-150 I'd have no issues with them. But instead they're charging a fully premium price, lure people in with sales that have a minimum purchase requirement if you don't want to pay outlandish shipping and then try to keep you buying with their "loyalty" club and spamming advertisements every week. You can buy far better jeans from Scorpion, Icon, Speed and Strength, Oxford for $100 less and Oxford will even be CE rated while Scorpion and Icon aren't rated but reasonably priced and still stylish.

[@jakudahsymba5453]

He kept repeating cotton and spandex because “denim” or cotton based clothing won’t hold up at all in a slide. He questioned if the pads were actually ce rated because they looked fake and really cheap. What it comes down to is if you want actual protection, you have to look for CE 1 or 2 and level A,AA or AAA rated. CE is for impact, the A’s are for abrasion. Either spend the money on legit CE rated gear or don’t waste your money getting clothes that look like motorcycle gear.

[@amatureskater15]

what does Yammy's bathwater taste like?

[@DamianJablonski-li2rw]

@@amatureskater15sorry you’re too busy sucking off life of Burch to not buy shitty products? Sorry your life revolves around KZbin so much you think anybody questioning shitty products being shilled by somebody with literally the least experience in the moto KZbin space is somehow supporting another KZbinr and not just against idiots shilling products

[@epiphany6]

This is an absurd hot take. You missed the entire point - which is, that some gear of some quality is better than no gear of no quality. As a 30 year old dude when I stared riding, I did not suffer the ego issue, and bought CE gear right away, researching ratings and ensuring I got the best protection. Point being, I agree with your criticism of "fashion" riding gear that isn't tested. But at no point would I say that the choice is "ride naked" or "ride in a full race suit" - that's fucking dumb, and you really oughta just pause for 5 secs, and think about how stupid that last sentence is on what's an otherwise reasonable point. For plenty of people, safety is not a concern, that's Burch's whole point - since we all pay for their hospital bills at the end of the day, if we can at least get them in jeans instead of shorts? It's a win. We can/should point out the deficiencies and false sense of safety that untested gear provides, it deserves to be called out. But, you're basically gatekeeping safety and that's fuckin' dumb. Imagine writing out "either buy a SNELL helmet or don't wear one" ...

[@terdferguson4945]

What would you recommend for pants that meet those CE and A's ratings?

[@DamianJablonski-li2rw]

@@epiphany6 eh, I agree partially but also the complaint that you can’t afford gear yet you can afford a motorcycle that costs more than a decent set of gear is very very stupid. You own a 600-1000 and you can’t buy good gear? Beginner riders I understand, but why upgrade to a more dangerous machine without properly preparing yourself

[@davidmason4346]

Each time you dive into topics such as this, much like in your video about when you went full time on KZbin and parting ways with the restaurant, you really keep emotion out of it. That is one thing I admire about you. You try to take in all sides and understand from the points of view of all parties involved. Great work Burch!

[@drdreddmanofmystery9482]

Some of us can't afford three hundred dollars for a pair of pants, and we need these more affordable alternatives.

[@LifeOfBurch]

Biiggg fax! When I bought my first bike I could barely afford a decent helmet, let alone riding pants and a jacket. So squid behavior it was 🫡😂

[@nosman123]

i see hwk gear all over amazon "cheap" but realy good reveiws

[@ericglazier2394]

Except there are affordable alternatives that are actually useable unlike this Amazon crap. Just shop sales. I have AAA rated jeans and they didn't cost me anywhere near $300.

[@drdreddmanofmystery9482]

@@ericglazier2394 So where did you get them?

[@DarksideSleemo]

​@@nosman123It's really good, honestly. Obviously, more expensive stuff will be better but it definitely serves its purpose. I got hit at relatively low speed going through an intersection and went for a good 30 ft slide and the gear held up great. I tore through one of the layers on the pants but the jacket just had tar marks from the asphalt.

[@stevenrice8439]

The real question is whether any of the gear Yammie reps now is boulder rated or yellow Porsche rated.

[@neonsamurai1348]

So one comment I have to make, there is a huge difference between actual traditional denim, and how most fabric used in jeans are now made. Cotton does not equal denim, and fabric weight matters a great deal, as does how the warp and weft threads are woven (individually and as fabric). Modern jeans are designed to wear out and fail quickly, the material (weight) is thin, they use things like spandex which serve to further weaken the structural integrity of the product (and these strands have to be woven to allow the cotton portion of the thread to stretch more). The result is that most modern denim pants short of something like selvedge have almost no abrasion resistance. I would avoid any motorcycling product with cotton & spandex (or even 100% cotton selvedge for that matter) as they are not designed for that kind of abrasion resistance. Pads also are only good as long as they stay in position during a crash/slide, assuming you actually are sliding on pads. P.S. I despise Yammynoob as well. Particularly after the whole Spite affair.

[@alastairtheduke]

And unless it's ce rated, meaning the company paid to have it tested, you have no idea if it protects you

[@NoName-c4y7h]

Both are speculating, and both didn't test anything for results, so both are pointless opinions.

[@spartanx169x]

Cotton is cotton. It does not take a rocket scientist to know that if does not have Kevlar, or leather you do not have protection. Even with pads, the pads will be ripped right out because of what is holding them.

[@scotscottscottt]

Nah. YN just pointed out obvious facts about how materials and ratings play into protection, this dude's just coping with bias bc he's connected to the company.

[@edmlh150]

If they aren't rated, they aren't rated. As long as they aren't advertised as such, or claiming to be rated when they haven't been tested. I'm not buying "riding" jeans if they aren't protective, but that's just me. If the pads are claiming a rating, they need to be certified. Denim isn't abrasion resistant. Also, the best gear is the gear you're going to wear. But if the gear is just cosmetic.... lol.

[@sinakimyu]

All I can say is for the price NBT charges, I want actual protection. Slide protection is kind of important. Glad they are finally adding that protection, but the prices are still absurd. Its definitely an influencer brand, and the prices show that.

[@LifeOfBurch]

~$200 after discount for pants with aramid lining for slide protection and CE level 1 in the knees/hips seems par for the course to me. But like I mentioned, the pants he reviewed were only $150, or $128 with a code, so hard to compare something that inexpensive to the stuff he was recommending at twice the price.

[@shauns5278]

​@@LifeOfBurch Noru makes comparable Aramid panel jeans with armor for $70-80. Noru is a new brand but they're part of the Cortech umbrella of companies so have a couple decades of reputation backing them up. Aramid panels do not make pants worth $200. You seriously need to try some Knox, Merlin, RoadSkin or Alpinestars! Your mind will be blown!

[@dsrstudios9505]

Yammie had pants with basically no abrasion incorporated. (Which is useless as a protective pant) Currently the nbt pants have anti abrasion paneling in key areas. Skip all this and just buy FinnMoto motorcycle pants. They are 100% lined with 300gm kevlar from waist to cuff. They are great for cooler weather and cost $150 (US$) delivered from Australia to the US.

[@shauns5278]

Seriously this. There are so many cheap if not ECE rated brands. Noru, Cortech, Scorpion, Speed and Strength, Joe Rocket. Even if they're not ECE abrasion rated they're at least FULLY woven and not just lined in key areas with armor and can all be had for $150 and way less!

[@droyce4596]

The uglybros pants that yammienoob has are lined with kevlar(actually aramid, not DuPont branded Kevlar in this case), the other 3 pants he showed were not, or he managed to hide all kevlar lining in the other pants. The uglybros are still overpriced in my opinion.

[@wamporeycidulgb]

I was unaware of this drama, but I appreciate you putting up the 2 bros' discount codes, and not your own 😁👍 I don't own any expensive big name motorcycle gear. I check the specs before deciding what to buy, and all my gear is CE approved. I'm sure there's more comfortable and more practical gear in the more expensive segment, but I don't think it's worth paying 6 times more for a few benefits that don't affect my safety. While I agree that some protection is better than no protection, I've pretty much been an ATTGATT rider since day one. I never understood the "gear isn't cool" crowd. Probably firstly because I actually think riding gear actually does look a lot cooler than shorts and flip-flops...

[@Zenfyr]

"Even if you think NBT is only 85% as protective as the gear Yammie recommended (hypothetically), I’d rather be 85% protected 100% of the time, than 100% protected 15% of the time." This is the kind of stuff that makes me think you have attended an MLM course at some point. Not to mention 14:02 - How Do You Do Fellow Kids? This is gross.

[@Damologist]

To be fair if it isn't rated highly, and isn't from a repected motocyle gear company, I ain't wearing it! Stupid people can wear pov spec useless gear if they want, but I'd rather know I'm protected, not think I am...

[@jmackinjersey1]

Regardless of the closeness of the cotton/Spandex blend being to Denim, Denim doesn't protect you from a slide/abrasion either. If you are going to have a Denim jean for abrasion protection, then you need to have something woven/blended in like Kevlar.

[@Love4boost]

Not a Yammie sub. I also hit that unsub over the Spite getting fired video. But I watched that video first so it’s fresh in my memory. He suggested the original because of the Kevlar lining and stitching. Which I’d agree on that. Denim disintegrates as soon as it touches pavement at speed. So doesn’t have to be CE rated. Just have at least CE rated knee armor and Kevlar lining for when you’re sliding on your ass. That’s what I wear after my slide down the highway a little over a year ago. I just learn from my own pain from accidents I’ve had. So the most uncomfortable thing I wear is my boots, but again that’s because my Achilles was almost severed while wearing low cut riding boots. I could’ve just removed my passenger pegs because that’s what sliced my leg open. But I needed new boots anyway so I just went with a tall boot with good ankle protection for peace of mind. I understand why you wanted to rant. It’s basically a situation of take what’s valuable from his criticism and ignore the rest because he knows how to get engagement and clicks. Good or bad he’s been on this platform long enough that he uses it to his benefit. Ride safe but also have fun 🤘🏽

[@checkingreality]

whole can of worms here. First off I dont care about Yammie Noob and Spite. As far as I'm concerned they are both scummy influencers, who are salespeople first, and motorcyclists second. My second point is I am skeptical about this video, You were just in Daytona with the owner, a quick "hey man can you spin this for us" conversation could have easily happened. Not saying Yammie in the right, far from it, but I would have much rather seen a video from a non sponsored non backed rider who was neutral put two comparable pants on a table and go through them. Ian from Big Rock Moto to me seems like the most honest gear reviewer, but he's more ADV gear so its not really in his wheelhouse. It would make you look better if you said hey im not happy YN used me in the video, check out this third party creators video they did a thorough breakdown.

[@LifeOfBurch]

Valid points my guy! I’m honestly just loving the fact that your handle is CheckingReality- very fitting for the topic at hand 😂 Also, I’m pretty sure there’s a third party guy who’s supposed to be crashing in an NBT outfit soon, so that’ll be cool to see the results. Apparently the dude is a “professional crasher” and is just gonna lay’er down to see the results 😳

[@Atopper]

Super happy you did put this video out! Completely agree with not liking to wear actual riding gear but maybe it’s finally time.

[@iNFiN3]

How can you honestly say that paying 150$ - 15% for non protective jeans is in any way or shape shopping on a budget? Its the same as riding in 15$ normal jeans, or 70$ branded jeans, having the tag Moto doesnt make them worth 150, especially when they had it made and shipped for under 10, its just a scam, and youre no better then that other clown pushing shit products to new riders, you all have your own agendas, dont pretend like youre any better.

[@StevenRogers-hw9dj]

That wasn't very close to being English, little guy.

[@justinsutherland7214]

I give you respect for coming out and staying your opinion and side of the story. I always love your content man.

[@DarksideSleemo]

Why does "97% cotton and 3% spandex" from Yammie have the same feel as "properties of both rubber and gum" from Hisoka?

[@karlfonner7589]

Just my two cents here. First off, I respect your honest opinion. Secondly, I have bought many pairs of Amazon pants. Most of them were crap. I do not wish to be a 63-year-old man wearing skinny jeans. Have already ripped on me after normal use. If there’s anyone out there that shops on Amazon for motorcycle pants on Amazon may I suggest the NEO jeans from Australia. You will cook in them, but I feel that they would help you in a slide more than any other of the jeans advertised. Plus, they are loose cut. So I don’t feel like a 60-year-old man dressed up like a teenager.😂

[@773superprguy]

He's been called out as a scumbag before. Doesn't surprise me and he hates cruisers.

[@samba1018]

Hey Birch & community - I’m trying to figure out if/how much protective gear I should use on the daily. I ride every day since it’s my primary form of transport. I commute to work for about 10 minutes, in a busy city with low speeds. Would you/the community use riding pants and boots every day? They don’t look great and don’t seem like they would be great for work afterwards, even after removing the armor.

[@roydied15]

I’ve actually watched yamminoobs content since all the way back when he catapulted himself on the Daytona days. I’ve always noticed a toxic aura around him. The guy exudes arrogance from every pore of his body. Where I live in the Midwest, there’s the normal street riders like myself, then there’s the street squids who gotta be like sonic and “go fast” everywhere, usually riding a bike they financed at 19% interest while still living with their parents (probably mom because their parents are divorced). THEN there’s the elitists/track snobs, aka the guys who show up in 1 piece suits at bike nights on either a panigale V4S or Aprilia RSV. Yammi is the quintessential track snob. All his reviews seem to center around bike performance (hence how he always shits on cruisers every chance he gets). He doesn’t seem to grasp the idea that you can simply like something without throwing a buncha numbers at it. I gotta go look up the video where he fired spite though because spite was the only reason I even watched that channel and didn’t realize he left 😢

[@shauns5278]

Sadly he deleted the Spite "exit interview" just a few days afterwards not sure if anyone reuploaded but it was genuinely heartbreaking. Spite's eyes were all red so you could tell he had been crying and he was just silent and soulless the entire time. Seriously fuck Yammie but this was really one if the few good videos he has done. I have been trying to warn against NBT for a couple years now they ARE NOT safe. The only semi-decent thing they make seems to be the Hoodie and even then I wouldn't want to go much over 50mph in it. But it is fairly thick and has a snug athletic fit which is what you want for riding gear. The jeans and omg especially the flannel is an absolute joke.

[@KazeAkiyama]

I don't think NBT stuff is as protective as proper riding gear, HOWEVER, it's miles better than riding squid, and it's a good in between. Personally would never wear if I'm going high speeds but I love my NBT stuff for town riding.

[@LifeOfBurch]

Yup exactly! If I’m doing fast boi activities I’ll throw on a leather jacket, but leather jackets don’t make sense for taking the Grom into town for coffee, so NBT fills the “daily” role perfectly for me 🤘🏻

[@mannydcbianco]

Exactly this. It offers much better protection than squidding, and is a lot less expensive than the quality stuff. As such it fills an important market gap. A lot of people in the US starting out riding bikes do so because it's a huge money saver compared to cars for commuting and small shopping trips, and they can't afford to immediately spend a few grand more on a full kit of high-quality riding gear. So they do some research and opt for an in-between that sets them back half or even a quarter of the high quality stuff. They know it most likely doesn't offer the same protection, but it will absolutely offer far more protection than regular clothes. And that's a win. They can get the high quality high cost gear later.

[@DamianJablonski-li2rw]

Dude a leather jacket offers more protection that squidding and it’s still fucking garbage I don’t get this excuse 😂 stop developing parasocial relationships with fucking KZbinrs weirdo

[@BlackRiverRider]

Full leathers is the only answer. In all seriousness, at least they have armor which is more than can be said for the hipsters that ride around in skinny jeans and sweatpants. It’s a good thing they’re incorporating more aramid lining though into future pants to make up for the lack of abrasion resistance. Personally I like to get my gear when the big brands are on sale as you can get $400-$500 gear for like $200-$300 when they put out a new style.

[@FilthyCasual256]

As someone that once tried getting into riding and watched every motoblogger/tuber and educating myself (even motioing to countersteer n stuff)... After seeing what yammie did to spite, I just thought to myself, "thats scummy AF" then looking into his past wreck and now this.. just confirmed the dude is just there for the money to fill his ego and pockets and willing to throw anyone under the bus.

[@shauns5278]

Yammie is a piece of crap but this video is doing a service. The best part of his crash was he set up a Go Fund Me for himself but not the guy in the Porsche! Who to this day is still partially paralyzed and was in FAR worse shape than Yammie!

[@redsunbro9507]

My biggest complaint with NBT is that they don’t have jeans that fit my legs. I’d have to get 4 sizes larger just to get them to fit.

[@seanowens6888]

I got a NBT hoodie a few months back, I love it and Burch is basically the reason I got it. I love it and feel good knowing I’m making a good choice wearing something safer then just a normal jacket. I also will probably save up and get the newer NBT pants as well here soon

[@LifeOfBurch]

Yea the hoodies are so sick!! I just got one of the hi-vis ones and love it. And see, this is what it’s all about- just getting people in gear that they love!! 🙌🏻🤘🏻

[@FredyNat]

I haven't watch yammie in a long time. But I've seen those same pants with the same designs on them. Even the pockets look the same as what's on Aliexpress. I've seen them there for years. Can trust a company pushing the same pants for 10x the price.

[@Try2KeepUpK]

*added* WHERE IS FORTNINE TO PROVE WHOS RIGHT WHITH SCIENCE?!??! A license is a license. A safety rating from a license is paramount. Would you wear a helmet without a license? Yam was dumb to fire spite. But he's calling out bs companies for loop hole products. Also the pads he's talking about feel so cheap they seem like a mold of a truly certed pad. Literally mine broke during shipment... they feel so so cheap it can't be real.

[@cooltechdreamer]

I unsubscribed from that guy after firing Spite, lost all my respect that day!

[@spencerlucas5835]

I'm not here for the crappy motorcycle jean clothing drama (yawn) I don't believe the hype that they will offer the same protection as proper riding gear. life of Burch you should suit up whilst on any bike you ride. I'm living proof that the proper motorcycle riding gear (I wear textile) saves lives, I was young and dumb on a 2005 cbr600rr and had a tank slapper at, at least 118mph and walked away unhurt not a scratch on me at all. That's because I was wearing the right protective riding gear at the time. The gear I was wearing was trashed I was not. Heed my warning to wear the proper gear or just go about it with your fingers firmly glued crossed that nowt should happen on your ride outs.

[@SLIGHT_]

Like you, I’m not a fan of YN. Spite was that last straw for me. Yet my issues started with that Porsche crash and the comments he had about the victim of that crash he caused. Great video Mike. Unfortunate you have to deal with this clown.

[@GlenMones-le6yf]

Here's an example I cannot stand wearing a full face helmet.. in the colder weather I wear a open face with a built-in sun shade and built-in plastic shield that comes down I feel that this is plenty of protection for me... I can open up the plastic shield and just have the sun shade down if I want or I can open them both up and wear glasses.. no it's not optimal protection but it's protection.. now in the hot warmer weather I wear a half helmet.. and yes I know it's not going to be much protection especially for your face but isn't it better than worrying NO HELMET? IN FACT I LIVE IN CONNECTICUT WHERE WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO WEAR HELMETS SO ISN'T MY LITTLE HALF HELMET BETTER THAN NOTHING? BECAUSE IF IT'S THAT HOT OUT IT'S EITHER A HALF OR NOTHING

[@NoGlockTrucker]

Made the mistake of buying NBT pants. In less than one riding season in North Dakota I wore holes in the seat of the pants just wearing them. I now wear trilobite parado (not exactly cheap but very comfortable) or ironworks cargo riding pants (very comfortable and cost less than NBT).

[@davidgill5336]

Thank you!!! I saw the Yammie vid two weeks after purchasing NBT GEAR. I got two pair a pants (the one with aramid) and the hoodie. They all fit great and are VERY COMFORTABLE!!! I have never had a more comfortable set of pants. My only complaint is that I can't find the # to call them.

[@SobaBTW]

The ONLY reason I wouldn't consider NBT is literally because they don't have 10+ years of R&D to make their products better. I love cheap stuff but I am not gonna buy something that hasn't had the time behind the scenes to make sure the product is up to par. This isn't a phone, mouse, keyboard, monitor etc that you're buying. You're buying this to save your ass in the event of you eating shit on the road. I'm completely okay with shelling out money for better testing clothes so I can have a better chance of walking away from a crash or surviving one. Once NBT starts making better products and have more R&D, nothing against them but that is a solid complaint to have and a reason I wouldn't buy from them just yet.

[@Nope-bp2km]

I think Pakistan labor is cheaper than china these days that’s why they moved

[@jayoshann]

My grandfather used to say “the best knife is the knife you have in your pocket” basically the idea that he liked smaller folding knives because the big ones were bulky and he would often leave it at home instead of carrying it. Same idea with gear. If it isn’t comfortable or you think you look like a dork you’re less likely to wear it and it can’t really protect you from home.

[@RoadReality]

LOL, I only watched YN's videos to see Spite. Once he was gone, so was I. As for the gear? I see reviews, then go watch MORE reviews, find written reviews, and find the flaws. THEN I make a decision. Just like one should, especially when it comes to PPE. Thanks for cluing those of us who don't watch YN in, just more reason not to go back. Ride safe, Burch! PS: I started out no gear, then gradually started wearing more gear... and after my accident in 2018 - I wear gear and at least long pants all year round. Finding comfy gear that has protection is the key. I still need to get some summer riding pants, but my head/hands/torso/arms are all covered, and most of the time I'm wearing m/c boots. Screw "cool", I'll take the protection.

[@alastairtheduke]

6:20 look for the ce rating, i wouldn't trust anything with 90% cotton in it, are you kidding me? The fact that he describes jeans is not important. Jeans won't protect you unless they are made of other protective materials.

[@adrianalexandrov7730]

The argument of company starting cheap and then improving works. If the initial product is cheap. And if you do not promise your customers more then they'd get.

[@83FB7]

I was wondering if you would make a video on this lol. That happened to be one of maybe 5 videos I’ve watched of his since he fired Spite. The kicker for me is he was bitching about the NBT and WINX pants for not being CE abrasion rated but then admits that the Ugly Bros pants aren’t either so it was all literally a moot point.

[@pyroglyphicsglass]

Why did I just waste 40 mins combined on motorcycle pants?? They honestly all suck. The best ones I found were women’s pants lol. It’s also splitting hairs between road rash and death. Like the pants aren’t gonna make a difference when you crash most of the time, especially a bad crash. They’ll help in certain situations for sure but if the slide is the worst thing you have to worry about, consider yourself lucky

[@YoshiRambles]

Regardless of what Yammie says, NBTis overpriced ($250 for jeans-come on, far more reputableand tested, certified at that price), and is made in china. Most affordable riding gear is made in China though, nothing new. NBT is a company with a goal to make money and market them well (still overpriced). Personally id go with Milwaukee Leather, Iron works, or Street & Steel at cheaper price with equal or better quality. To each their own. If NBT wanted to pay me to ensorse products, hell yeah i would. Would i spend my own money on NBT, hell no.

[@CrypticApathy]

I stopped watching him after he rode like a jack ass and ran in to a porsche and then tried to get a go fund me for it.

[@4DMASTR]

Haven't watched scammy boob since Spite went on his own. I don't think NBT is the best gear out there, but they had the first pair of pants I ever found that actually fit me, with the protection in the right place.

[@shauns5278]

NBT follows Asian sizing so I'd check out Asian brands like RS Taichi, NOT the same as RST btw, or Scorpion if you found the NBT fit comfortable. Italian brands such as Dainese and Alpinestars will also be fairly comparable but usually run a little longer but comparatively slim!

[@MotoDash1100]

Bummer that this has to even be a video, but hey, Thanks Yammie for giving Burch a free video idea! [Responding to Yammie stuff to be clear]

[@grominwithrob1339]

Thanks Yammie for making me appreciate other peoples content even more. 😂😂😂

[@jimbobspov]

Gotta appreciate the honesty & the fact that you pointed out the flaws in Yam's message. Ended up checking out NBT & they had a sale for half off on a pair of aramid lined pants with the CE1 pads & only had my size left so I had to go ahead & ordered those!

[@TGalanos]

Thanks for giving us your perspective, dude! I totally agree that it’s a bit strange that Yammie Noob is going after a young company and a product they are phasing out.

[@SamWilliams78]

This is an excellent video man. I really enjoy the classic aimless riding and having a conversation videos.

[@zachariahdavis8671]

“Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of shit. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a pair of pants and mark it CE rated, I will.”

[@AverageArdvark]

Yammie may be a scumbag. You may not like him. That doesn't mean his opinion is invalid. Your argument basically boils down to: Yammie is a jerk. Don't listen to him. NBT's gear is not very protective but it's better than being naked. It's all well and good that they are getting better as they get older but you really cannot take that into consideration. The pants are what they are. Unless they are gonna replace everyone's old pants for new ones for free because they got better.

[@LifeOfBurch]

Interesting takeaway. I didn’t say not to listen to him, I actually pretty clearly said to listen to us both and make your own decision. I also said I agree with some of what he said. But at the end of the day, much of what he said was deceptive. No CE abrasion rating does not equal not protective at all. And ANY protection is better than NO protection. Especially when the NBT pants he reviewed are half the price of his recommendations that some new riders just plain can’t afford. Tesla doesn’t replace customers’ cars when new models come out, so not sure why you’d suggest a clothing company doing that.

[@AverageArdvark]

@@LifeOfBurch "make your own decision and listen to us both but remember he's the guy that fired his friend on cam." Could've just talked about the facts. Again something is better than nothing but a great argument. I get it and I'm not denying the truth of it. Just doesn't seem like it needs to be said. What's the point. I didn't suggest they give everyone new pants. My point was you can't judge yam for judging their old pants because people bought them so it's fair game. It's not that I disagree with you on the whole. I'm also not a yam fan. I'm just interested in hearing honest discussion.

[@LifeOfBurch]

@@AverageArdvark I get what you’re saying for sure, but I think it’s also important to understand the character of who you choose to listen to. If he showed how he truly didn’t care about his “best friend” and tried to profit off of firing him, why should his viewers think he truly cares about them and isn’t just trying to profit off them too? He doesn’t make any money off the brands he bashed, but he sure makes a lot of money off those affiliate links he pushed for what he recommended. I can see his underlying objective was just getting safe gear on his followers, but I think it could’ve been done without bashing an up and coming brand that’s putting more gear on people who wouldn’t typically wear it than any other brand out there. Also, I appreciate the respectful discourse we’re having here instead of just hateful bashing like the internet is so known for in these situations 😂

[@AverageArdvark]

@@LifeOfBurch I respect that. I just don't think we need to go down the road of character vs character. I don't want to choose who's right based on who I like better. I just want to know who has the facts. At the end of the day I want to know about nbt. Not yammienoob. That said I don't think you meant it to be like that and I'm glad we had this discussion.

[@LifeOfBurch]

@@AverageArdvark one of the more pleasant KZbin comment section “disagreements” I’ve been apart of in awhile 😂 Thanks for the perspective brotha! 🤘🏻

[@km55111]

not gonna lie i own 3 NBT jackets and 2 pairs of pants and they are not as good protection as ud hope for the price point tbh. they are better than nothing for riding around town i guess but should look into actual rated gear tbh. im a big fan of them for casual commune /style but wouldnt be my first recommendation for protection

[@breedlofam]

Yam has always come across as a narcissist. Feels like the reason he got rid of Spite was only because Spite was starting to get more attention than him and he couldn't take that.

[@johnhinson9866]

I bought a "protective" jacket. I damn thing weighed as much as a f**king Christmas turkey for a family of 8!

[@pogmothoin602]

When he mentioned that he was an avid cyclist(as in the spandex wearing granola hippies who line up side by side, flip off the line of motorists behind them, and just pedal around talking about their Teslas and who they are going be malicious to and why, typically homeless, minorities, or other)I felt like I knew EXACTLY the type of person he is.

[@socosurf]

How are you a case study when you’ve never fallen with their gear? You can’t even prove that NBT is protecting you at all. This was a weird video saying a lot while not saying anything at all. All you said was that you “wear gear” but have literally zero evidence about the gear being even remotely protective.

[@josephmeyer295]

This was my exact reaction to this video. 20 minutes and still didn’t say anything worth while. Love watching these influencers being paid to promote these overpriced “gear” defend these companies.

[@socosurf]

@@josephmeyer295 yup. The whole video was litterally nonsense. This guy doesn’t even know to create an argument.

[@uh60rider2000]

I'm going to be a new rider in less than a month. I'm 46 years old and I'm paranoid so I have already bought a Knox AA rated padded jacket. It's really expensive but I hope it is comfortable enough for me. We will see

[@lg71185]

The exception doesn't make the rule - most of us would rather have a safe company. I'm with Yam's on this one. However, I was uneducated on it as well and I own NBT. They are comfy and the protection seems to be in good order.

[@shauns5278]

If you like the jeans I'd go to a local tailor and pay them like $15-20 to add buttons for the armor flaps so they don't slide out. That's one of the biggest negatives on even the Aramid jeans in my eye.

[@seifer93]

Yammie definitely participated in some skullduggery when it came to Spite. That aside, I find it hypocritical for Yammie to be talking about bike influencers selling shit gear. Up until recently his big way of making money was getting people to buy riding gear, (not all of which was safety rated,) from a storefront that he personally owned and operated in exchange for raffle entries to bike sweepstakes which he also operated. AFAIK now he exclusively sells Yammie branded merch and absolutely fleeces his viewers by offering paid memberships of up to $100/month in exchange for raffle entries and a discount for his store. Like come on; the dude reeks of social media influencer bullshit.

[@shauns5278]

Yeah it's really scummy but the old shop wasn't totally horrible. It wasn't high quality gear but it was at least from reputable brands like Scorpion, Joe Rocket and Speed and Strength. No one should have been buying the gear from him either way though you'd generally be paying like 20% more. I sadly bought a Hoodie to support Spite and little over a month later, past the return period, was when Yammie fired him. =S

[@natebienne6737]

I think it is best to have more aramid or slide protection than most of the nbt clothes. I am debating keeping the sweatshirt because it seems decent and it shipped with armor, and is high vis yellow/ green. I think I’ll be returning the nbt pants and keeping a pair from saint motorcycle gear that seems to have a little more slide protection.

[@shauns5278]

My buddy who recently started riding fell for the NBT hype and bought every single piece of their gear. Lol As someone who's been riding, for going on 7 years now, the NBT hoodie is 100% worth keeping and is genuinely nice. The jeans are meh and should be 1/3 of what they cost. If you got them on steep sale not a huge loss but check out other brands and consider a return.

[@KimHDRoberts]

If an article is not tested, not approved and not certified then one of two things is happening - 1. the manufacturer isn't willing to pay for testing or 2. the manufacturer isn't making goods that will pass. Sometimes it's both. The point is: I won't ride in anything that isn't designed, tested and certified for the job. Safety is simply too important to be swayed by some random online.

[@Sea_Jay]

People still watch Yammie Clown after what he did to Spite?

[@efsyoo]

You responding to a hot topic is good for your channel. Asmongold responsed to everything popular, and people want to hear his opinion. He doesn’t take it personal either. He just talks about what people wanna watch. You should respond to more videos that your audience brings up. Keep up the good work brother!

[@LifeOfBurch]

Thanks bro!! I try to stay out of the drama and the limelight lol but figured I should respond because NBT is genuinely the only reason I started wearing riding gear.

[@trippyvapors]

There’s lots of CE rated riding pants and jeans around 100 bucks today. Just buy rated gear.

[@raccooncafe5689]

YN always came off as butthurt and a bit sinophobic ngl. The specific moment i was put off of his videos was when he referred to the CFMoto as a "wonton bike." Like say what you will abt CFMoto but damn 😭

[@AndrewSmith-cd5zf]

It’s pretty simple, can you imagine Arai making any product that wasn’t tested and didn’t make certification standards. They even refuse to make any other products other than helmets because of the risk that they may get distracted from making the safest helmets possible. My jeans are Hood AAA - tested proven product- they cost a lot of money because they are really high quality safety gear. Imagine sliding down the road at 💯 on substandard gear, after half a second you would be questioning the savings.

[@CoberBox1]

I’ve got a progression of their pants. I can honestly attest they’ve made improvements with each pair since I bought the first. Customer service is great and I genuinely like wearing them so much they’ve become work wear in the colder months.

[@DuggleBogey]

I'm with you man. Riding with the most protective gear is safer, but sitting on your couch is safest. Everyone has to decide for themselves what level of safety is acceptable. Having more options is better, not worse.

[@kostekw]

Well, he’s actually right about cotton and spendex - those are not going to protect you, denim will just vanish. My moto jeans have additional kevlar pents in it. I’ve stopped watching this video after this moment as i’ve realized it’s very subjective on your par, unfortunetly. I really liked your vids before, but now… connecting the dots with your video were you suddenly change exhaust for 1100 w/o any clear reason, i’m starting to feel you are not fully transparent with us here. Not that i care for yamie noob or any other content creator. I like to Watch KZbin videos, i like when i hear facts, but when i hear opinions, unless pictures are interesting i’m just fastforwarding.

[@felixmuller1526]

8:30 Pakistan is even cheaper than China, doesnt seem like an improvement to me.

[@LifeOfBurch]

Cheaper in price or quality? Genuine question.

[@felixmuller1526]

@@LifeOfBurch cheaper in price, about 15-20%. Quality heavily depends on the supplier, but the majority of them are similar to suppliers in bangladesh, minimal wages and poor conditions for the workers.

[@LifeOfBurch]

@@felixmuller1526 ahh gotcha. I’ll definitely keep an eye on quality as they continue the switch. Fortunately I’m not contracted to anything so I can switch if I see iffy stuff coming out. Seems pretty solid so far though!

[@NBTclothing]

Tbh majority of all Kevlar comes from Pakistan and no things are not cheaper in Pakistan. When quality goes up, reinforcing stitching more, working with different weaves, price fluctuates a lot and full transparency making the switch for more quality our pricing has gone up. And I know what these companies that sell there pants for $400 pay for there pants coming outta Pakistan. I also know all of there CE ratings. At $400 there profits are much higher than ours. A lot goes into creating a brand, releasing new products, testing, ect. We don’t just slap our logo on shit, if you looked at all of our products you would be able to see that.

[@felixmuller1526]

​@@NBTclothing Yes things are cheaper in Pakistan. Minimum wage in Pakistan is ~142$, compared to 220$+ in China. Conditions for most workers are very poor too. My point was to to compare you to other brands, i was just trying to make the point that "made in Pakistan" is not better than "made in China". But since you brought it up, a quick look at your website did not make you look any better. The hoodie comparison, where the only really visible difference is the filter, is kinda embarrassing.