Adeptus Custodes Unit Tier List in Warhammer 40K 10th Edition - Best and Worst Units?

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Let's talk through the unit roster of the Adeptus Custodes and the strongest and weakest choices they can bring to the table right now...
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0:00 Intro
1:08 Tier 4
4:58 Tier 3
13:29 Tier 2
19:58 Tier 1
28:41 Outro

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@AedalinSolaris
@AedalinSolaris Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the custodies, the best imperial guard unit.
@guillercuastico
@guillercuastico Жыл бұрын
You’re in the guard, son.
@reddragon4482
@reddragon4482 Жыл бұрын
Truly the Garden Hoes of The Emperor.
@alexrowson-brown6568
@alexrowson-brown6568 Жыл бұрын
The actual guard of terra, imperial fists are just placeholders
@auspextactics
@auspextactics Жыл бұрын
Good spot just fixed :D They're guard of a sort I guess...
@Sweetness71775
@Sweetness71775 Жыл бұрын
They're the Guard of the Emperor lol
@SgtNomadZero
@SgtNomadZero Жыл бұрын
I made a bit of a meme army, but it's been doing well in my local games. Got Trajann leading a squad of 4 guard, a shield captain with 4 guard, allarus captain with 2 allarus, aaaand a warhound titan with plasma and lasers lmao
@alextruecustodian6174
@alextruecustodian6174 Жыл бұрын
Based
@piercebrosnan9528
@piercebrosnan9528 Жыл бұрын
How's the warhound playing for you?
@SgtNomadZero
@SgtNomadZero Жыл бұрын
@piercebrosnan9528 it hasn't managed to die yet lol just sits on home objective and nukes anything in sight
@usf22raptr1
@usf22raptr1 Жыл бұрын
Until they fix Towering in some way, that's probably a good-to-great strategy...
@piercebrosnan9528
@piercebrosnan9528 Жыл бұрын
@@SgtNomadZero That sounds amazing, how was building the thing?
@musicalcharge
@musicalcharge Жыл бұрын
I really hope that the next balance update works on improving the internal balance of the custodes. It's silly that a list of basically only guard and their leaders is not just viable, but optimal.
@RottedDreams
@RottedDreams Жыл бұрын
Sadly its also the most optimal way to play them in Horus Heresy too.. Seems like they cant quite give good options over spamming the cheapest elite thing
@vidarthorsby2052
@vidarthorsby2052 Жыл бұрын
Well wardens and allarus as are good as well. And that is 75% of their index. The rest are in the FW index.
@HiggsyAndGinge
@HiggsyAndGinge Жыл бұрын
i think its just that anything aside from guard and allarus is hilariously over-costed. theres no reason sagitarum should be a locked 250pts, or venatari being 230ish. hopefully some revisions on that. as a custodes player i'd love to run some more unique units, but i mostly play at 1kpts and when most units cost a quarter of my points value, its just not fun.
@theophrastusbombastus1359
@theophrastusbombastus1359 Жыл бұрын
​@HiggsyAndGinge but with the army being so elite, you'll struggle to have variety. You have to pick a niche and choose models accordingly. If you want an "all-rounder list that can do most things" then it'll simply be blocks of guards The other units, expensive as they are, fill particular roles (like Allarus hunting characters or monsters, I forget) but it has to be to the exclusion of doing other things. That's what an elite army is And that's the price you pay for having each model being the equivalent to a squad in most other armies
@HiggsyAndGinge
@HiggsyAndGinge Жыл бұрын
@theophrastusbombastus1359 I'm not saying our units should cost the same as an imperial guard squad lol. I'm just saying that even an elite army can still be over costed, there's no reason for certain units to cost what they do and it just makes for prohibitive list building and thus boring, repetitive lists
@piotrjeske4599
@piotrjeske4599 Жыл бұрын
Envy aside, custodes dreadnoughts look so nice. Nice there is an elite faction that works.
@alexrowson-brown6568
@alexrowson-brown6568 Жыл бұрын
They look nice, they’re trash though, except in melee but they’ll be shot off board before that hapoens
@Ben-sn9cw
@Ben-sn9cw Жыл бұрын
@@alexrowson-brown6568 im new so please enlighten me, what in the world am i looking out for that consistently kills the heavy dread? As far as im aware its defensive stats are absurd. Maybe that knight with the spear gun? Tau in general?
@alexrowson-brown6568
@alexrowson-brown6568 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-sn9cw it doesn’t have many wounds, it can quite easily be focused by a few units It’s move is very slow for what we want Notable things that can easily take it out include gladiator lancers, repulsor executioners, knight valiant, knight castellan, knight crusader, a hellblaster squad of 10 with sustained hits, desolation squads, Lenin russ demolishers, eldar fire prisms as there’s always 3 and if one can shoot it they all can, eradicator squad should melt it fairly easily I’d expect a couple of d cannons to shred it Wraithguardx10 with spiritseer Manticores can fairly easily shoot it off with their rockets
@alexrowson-brown6568
@alexrowson-brown6568 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-sn9cw as for the Telemon that’s a bit tougher but any anti tank is going to do a fair bit to it or mass attacks -1 damage works well against things that are 2-3 damage but overall even that doesn’t have that many wounds and will be fairly gotten rid off pretty quickly from my experiences Usually it is getting focused which is how as custodes players we end up getting tabled. They basically oath a unit throw everything at it
@vidarthorsby2052
@vidarthorsby2052 Жыл бұрын
They are unfortunately very bad. Main reason is their slow move. Their shooting is bad, their melle attack is good. But with slow move they never charge. The non- forgeworld is OK as he comes back to life on 2+ at end of phase. So he is hard to shoot of an objective.
@Aodyri
@Aodyri Жыл бұрын
GW, please, Telemon in plastic is necessary. Such a core unit to the army being left FW only is crazy.
@crazyshak4827
@crazyshak4827 Жыл бұрын
I've been painting up my Custodes for a few months now, and I'm looking forward to getting them on the table. But I wish the internal balance was better. Even with FW, the range isn't huge, and having a small selection of that being objectively better than the rest is aggravating. I'll still run Aleya and some Vigilators in a beer and pretzels game though. They're fun, even if they're not competitive
@ZeroEdge69
@ZeroEdge69 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that owning the Combat Patrol and Boarding Patrol boxes is basically "Here is the foundation for a great list": Total of 10 Guard, 3 Terminators, Trajann, 3 Vertus, 10 Sisters For minimal further investment, I am adding a Blade Champion, 2nd trio of Terminators, and a box of Wardens (using 3 initially). Will see how things fair, if I need to change anything (ie: lowering my Sister count; shifting to fewer, larger, units). The fact that Wardens come in a box of 5, but are fielded as 3 or 6, is obnoxious though (a lot of extra cost for a single model for the bigger squad). I like the idea of using the Vertus Praetors for some fast moving shenanigans, but their downgraded shooting definitely stings. Still slowly working on the painting efforts, so no gameplay yet.
@calebproctor744
@calebproctor744 Жыл бұрын
Allarus are so fun to play with. I've been having a blast in 1000 point games where I have several units of this with 1 in deep strike and just do lots of movement shenanigans and pit them against 1v1s where they dominate A 2 squad with 1 leader is 250 points and can deep strike in on opponent home objectives that have weak units holding it, or jump a tank/ artillery piece, zero it, sticky the objective later, then teleport away like nothing happened in another round. The custodian lack of movement is no more when you have these guys around
@bird_flu
@bird_flu Жыл бұрын
I think it needs to be noted that this is a relative tier list because compared to other armies custodes start at tier 2 and go to -2.
@alexrowson-brown6568
@alexrowson-brown6568 Жыл бұрын
Can confirm wardens is good baitespecially with shield cap for free -1 damage, -1 to round and 2+/4++/4+++ is very hard to shift
@CommandPost
@CommandPost Жыл бұрын
You got it right - usually I see one or two units in these tier lists that could be moved to another tier. But you crushed it.
@J_LFox
@J_LFox Жыл бұрын
I had a unit of vigilators lead by aleya destroy a leman russ, aftter losing 3 models to their destroyed transport and another 3 by the tank shock stratagem. They are actually pretty insane if they get into range. Ofc way too expensive to consider them a core unit.
@knuckl6972
@knuckl6972 Жыл бұрын
I mean they kicked my ass, those terminators just fucking hurt
@offtankgaming1310
@offtankgaming1310 Жыл бұрын
The terminators, wardens, guard, blade champions, characters, etc. ALL hurt
@futurebodybags
@futurebodybags Жыл бұрын
When comparing the Custodian Guard to my Grey Knight Terminators for the same points cost it just makes me sad! Sometimes feels like points were picked randomly.
@crazyshak4827
@crazyshak4827 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It certainly feels like they sometimes set points values by throwing darts at a wall. It also feels like the codex and FW Custodes were done by different people. The disparity in the datasheets and lack of synergy is jarring
@donavonanomander934
@donavonanomander934 Жыл бұрын
Your guys can teleport at will. Ours get one deep strike.
@user-hv6gi9ux6z
@user-hv6gi9ux6z Жыл бұрын
​@@donavonanomander934well, technically ours get 2
@davidcox6454
@davidcox6454 Жыл бұрын
@@donavonanomander934yeah they can teleport a few units and have no bonuses to charge and storm bolters lol it’s an overrated ability and funnily enough makes their interceptors useless and not every unit even gets the teleport
@donavonanomander934
@donavonanomander934 Жыл бұрын
@@davidcox6454 forgive me, but I can tell your scene isn't very competitive. Being able to teleport so much gives them so much play on secondaries. It's a really big deal.
@MrInfin1x
@MrInfin1x Жыл бұрын
Overall I'm happy with where my custodes are at but I feel like they are punishing the Achilles and Vertus Praetors for how good they were in 9th. How does the giant achillus dread spear have less range than a normal spear? Why less movement on bikes and the same toughness as a normal infantry?
@davidcox6454
@davidcox6454 Жыл бұрын
No bikes got that tough in any other army so I’m glad they aren’t like toughness 9
@MrInfin1x
@MrInfin1x Жыл бұрын
@@davidcox6454 I would have been perfectly happy with 7 like our terminators but it's not any one stat. It's that they just nerfed so many stats that is upsetting.
@Khobai
@Khobai Жыл бұрын
@@MrInfin1x Vertus Praetors need to be toughness 7. Hurricane bolters need to be AP1. And Salvo Launchers need to be S10. S9 is useless in 10th edition because theres not very many units with T8. And then their cost also needs to be reduced to 75-80 points each.
@fernandozavaletabustos205
@fernandozavaletabustos205 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another detailed tierlist!
@thesin24
@thesin24 Жыл бұрын
awesome vids as always
@e_z__r_a
@e_z__r_a Жыл бұрын
I really want to make a sister of silence army, really hope they get more official units
@bloodwake1899
@bloodwake1899 10 ай бұрын
Nah they need to just be under Adeptus Custodies it would make no sense for them to be separate armies when their whole schtick is working together in combined arms.
@TrebleAmp
@TrebleAmp 10 ай бұрын
And more bloody rules that are applicable…
@Nikkehansson
@Nikkehansson Жыл бұрын
Looking at the Custodes stats/points and synergies with characters I can see why my Blood Angels are so far behind. The points costs seem very low for what you get. Valoris being just 10 points more than Dante for example considering all his shenanigans, fights first etc. And then compare a normal Custodes Guardian to a space marine terminator, the added value is immense.
@theophrastusbombastus1359
@theophrastusbombastus1359 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but when you look at the armies as a whole, the rest of your guys are cheaper You have myriad other variables that will help you win a game against Trayjan, whether it's mobility, obsec, firepower, etc. Comparing armies is where it all balances out Comparing units directly is where it all gets bogged down and doesn't seem to compare equally
@Nikkehansson
@Nikkehansson Жыл бұрын
@@theophrastusbombastus1359 actually comparing units works quite fine when they are intended to be used in pretty much the same way. If anything all the other special rules Custodes get just reinforces the divide. One of these factions is performing at the very top of the meta and one is at the very bottom. In tournament games BA are performing even worse than the much lamented Death guard and leagues of Votann. Goonhammer 40K stats for reference (18 000+ 10th GT pack games as of writing)
@mrnukeduster
@mrnukeduster 10 ай бұрын
Agreed on Aquilon terminators. I ended up buying Allarus arms and putting them on my Aguilon to run them counts-as. Look cool, too.
@NornQueenKya
@NornQueenKya Жыл бұрын
Always wanted the Caladius tank, but if I spent that kind of cash again I'll end up single
@joshuacouture479
@joshuacouture479 Жыл бұрын
Recasters: allow us to introduce ourselves
@Autechltd
@Autechltd Жыл бұрын
FW isn't worth it, quality aside, there's more than a likely chance GW will legend it on a whim. And unlike buying plastic boxes from your FLGS, the money will not support your local store. No shame in recasting brother.
@joshuacouture479
@joshuacouture479 Жыл бұрын
@@Autechltd they stated that the FW custodes stuff wouldn’t go to legends as they lord wise still use them
@sallivan340
@sallivan340 Жыл бұрын
Just 3D print them mate.
@reddragon4482
@reddragon4482 Жыл бұрын
3D printed vesrions look just as good if not better lol. Only mongoloids buy off Forgeworld.
@mistermetal90
@mistermetal90 Жыл бұрын
Custodes. When you want to play GW's description of the Death Guard.
@yhormthemidget
@yhormthemidget Жыл бұрын
Disgustingly Resplendent
@offtankgaming1310
@offtankgaming1310 Жыл бұрын
Great name, underrated comment
@WeOnlyEatSoup
@WeOnlyEatSoup Жыл бұрын
What a cool faction...thinking about grabbing that combat patrol, I already have their half of shadow thrown
@StimmBehr
@StimmBehr Жыл бұрын
Time to make the non forgeworld edit. Good vid on my second favorite faction.
@dthomd
@dthomd Жыл бұрын
Having so much fun running all gold infantry lists this edition. Though the internal faction balance isn't great, if wasn't fantastic last edition either and at least the current rules allow new players to field something viable without such a heavy FW investment.
@pepi560
@pepi560 Жыл бұрын
For the aquilons: they have another thing going for them, they're the only unit which holds the front on custodes being the most expensive on per-model (non-vehicle) basis. Otherwise space marines would be more expensive with the centurions being ~68 per model and nothing from the custodes coming close to that.
@Khobai
@Khobai Жыл бұрын
aquilons are bad. they should cost the same as allarus not way more.
@zackthejuggalo9358
@zackthejuggalo9358 5 ай бұрын
I got a blade champion for my first then I just got the 5 wardens box I’m going for more after im going all out with the custodes their just badass I’m new to warhammer but love it I’m just into painting them playing isn’t my thing yet
@sheeemt399
@sheeemt399 11 ай бұрын
so what guards, terminators, 1 tank and blade champion is the go to?
@curtisthornsberry4236
@curtisthornsberry4236 3 ай бұрын
Anyone know a good 3D print of those grav-tanks?
@venkelos6996
@venkelos6996 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I'm a little sad that the Sisters, at least my take on this, play so little a part in this army, but when they have to be the equivalent of "humans", stood alongside an army of Terminators+, I don't feel that there could have been much else. They would need to stand on their special traits, and they just don't seem to still have those. I might actually say I am glad they aren't just Battle Shock support, even though that seems like what a squad of pariah would do, but since anti-Daemon might be both too restrictive for them AND too targeting of another faction, and anti-psyker loses so much in 10e, it's just too bad. I know a lot of people don't like Allies; that an army should be able to/have to stand on its own units, and Imperium forces really don't need more Allies only they can take, but I sort of wish that Custodes weren't a standalone faction, and that they could be seconded to other forces. They're currently one of the best factions, so I obviously just don't know what I am talking about, but if one of the biggest appeals of the Arbites Exaction Squad is how many forces can use them, if beneficial...if Sisters weren't forced to compete with the legendary Golden Warriors of the God-Emperor, I wonder if they would be better, overall? If Guard could benefit from decent assault forces they can requisition, since they are lacking there, themselves, maybe the Sisters would be better? Beyond that, glad to see that the Custodes are still hitting hard, after so many years of knowing we'd never get them as a faction. It's a shame that the Grey Knights, which I always felt we got as diet Custodes, because those guys were never going to be an army, couldn't keep copying them enough to play as more "two-wound Custodes" with anti-Daemon and anti-psyker.
@Asmith218
@Asmith218 Жыл бұрын
Question for those better tuned into the math hammer. Whats the advantage of spear over axe for captains, wadens and allarus? I originally modeled my models with the axes and just curious if its a slight efficiency boost by keeping them with spear or is it substancial?
@maddyfromwas
@maddyfromwas Жыл бұрын
Plus of axes: +2 str (which is mostly pointless, there's very few vehicles at t9, so at most you're getting a +1 to wound against t4), +1 damage Negatives: you lose an attack, you hit on 3+ and lose a AP point Against t5 3+ it's 3.73 wounds on average for spears and 2.69 (nice) for axes Against t4 3+ it's 3.73 vs 3.34 Against t8 3+ 1.84 vs 2.69 Against t9 3+ 1.84 vs 2.01 Against t10-13 3+ 1.84 vs1.64 As you can see it's strictly better against t8-9, which isnt common anymore due to the change of vehicles Last edition this would've been a fair choice, now it simply is not a choice
@Asmith218
@Asmith218 Жыл бұрын
@@maddyfromwas Just the type of breakdown I was hoping for, thank you.
@Kijuice
@Kijuice Жыл бұрын
Distraction Vigilators- Hear me out you gotta keep them in combat but... 10+ Aleya -1 to be hit in melee, +1 to hit from aleya and fights first tied up Mozrog and eventrually killed him with some strat support (Avenge the Fallen) while my guard and allarus cleaned up the sides
@ShiveEntertainment
@ShiveEntertainment 6 ай бұрын
I’m extremely new!!!! What is the least/minimum amount of units I can run to make a good army. I also am using 1000 points for alliance Imperial knight collab. So I only need 1000 points custodes. Can yall recommend or is more better in warhammer?
@josemanuelamagofuertes6568
@josemanuelamagofuertes6568 Жыл бұрын
The main issue of custodes is, being so strong and with so many awesome units including the best troop choice in the whole game, well, slightly less awesomeness means some units are considered useless like for instance vertus bikers now but, in fact, a unit of two with a jetbike captain could be awesome used properly Of course, since there are many good units around is easier going the way of: guard, wardens, allarus and captains with a blade champion for a nasty surprise
@Khobai
@Khobai Жыл бұрын
no custodians tier? the best unit for custodes by a huge margin is just straight up custodian guard.
@styks6480
@styks6480 Жыл бұрын
10th edition gets goofier the more it gets looked into. Also I have a mate that's been crying every time you put one of these out not about sisters, do my boy a solid aus.
@datcheesecakeboi6745
@datcheesecakeboi6745 8 ай бұрын
what about the aqulion with firepikes and claws?
@alexrowson-brown6568
@alexrowson-brown6568 Жыл бұрын
Also the area and Orion are not tournement playable, they cost more than what can go into strategic reserves where aircraft must start
@fluets5658
@fluets5658 Жыл бұрын
This isn't true for a couple of reasons. Mainly, Aircraft don't go into Strategic Reserve, they go into Reserve, which has a different limit of 50% in mission rules. (They count as SR once the game starts but the limitation doesn't apply by then.) But also, you can start them in hover mode, in which case they can start on the board, which is afaik the only way to have a full Orion in a tournament legal game since when that thing is full it's over 50% of a 2k list.
@alexrowson-brown6568
@alexrowson-brown6568 Жыл бұрын
@@fluets5658 ah I thought hover was a keyword not an ability
@fluets5658
@fluets5658 Жыл бұрын
@@alexrowson-brown6568 You basically pick whether or not to have it for that game at game start.
@wephilips6651
@wephilips6651 Жыл бұрын
Just had a blade champion led squad almost single handedly win me a game with its advance and charge and the unstoppable destroyer gave mortal wounds and made then fail a battle shock. Turned a defeat to a victory with one charge
@mellowfellow14
@mellowfellow14 Жыл бұрын
As a grey knights player, I love that custodian guard costs the same as one of my terminators despite being literally just better :))))))))))
@malekith13
@malekith13 Жыл бұрын
Well... custodian don't get a free model resurected every turn or any heavy weapon and taking the vexila ( for +1 OC ) with the cutodian guard make you lose it's melee weapon you can only have the misericordia that's way weaker than the spear, but i agree they are more powerfull in raw malee strengh
@ssgssbeast5140
@ssgssbeast5140 Жыл бұрын
I haven't used the Wardens yet since they went from being a 10 man squad to a 6 man but I'll give it a try to see how they do.
@alistairmorris8224
@alistairmorris8224 Жыл бұрын
Bro the wardens are nuts. I usually have Trajan leading them and stacking the -1 dam and 4+ FNP makes them crazy. They’ve tanked marines with oath and wraithknights. Truly chadstodes. But now my playgroup knows that and just ignores them lol
@Butternades
@Butternades Жыл бұрын
My GT list was built around 2 6 man warden squads and a 6 allarus squad, went 5-0 love the wardens
@alistairmorris8224
@alistairmorris8224 Жыл бұрын
@@Butternades yeah they’re very tanky. How did you use the big blob of allurus? I like them but I find I usually waste them?
@Butternades
@Butternades Жыл бұрын
@@alistairmorris8224 allarus start on board and run with the blade champ squad, generally as a second line, so if I go second advance and charge into something the allarus are there to pick apart anything that counter attacks, as well as to eat up enemy fire because let’s face it they scare opponents into playing suboptimally
@SpencaD
@SpencaD Жыл бұрын
I feel like the Orion Assault Dropship should be ranked higher. Its an expensive unit but it brings a lot of various types of shooting and it can transport 12 custodes or 6 custodes and a Achillus or Galatus.
@Ben-sn9cw
@Ben-sn9cw Жыл бұрын
... i feel scummy, me and afriend of mine want to get into warhammer and all the units i like for cutodes, minus the heavy dread and the bikes, are all in the tier 1 bracket. And he wants to play sisters... i just don't want to completely stomp him if we do get into this.
@robertdickinson6799
@robertdickinson6799 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the same situation, it's nearly impossible for me to lose given just how tough and deadly my army is compared to my friends'. I like how my custodes feel but I think they just need to be higher points maybe
@alexrowson-brown6568
@alexrowson-brown6568 Жыл бұрын
The Adeptus custodes, yeeeeeeeeessssss
@TEXASAXE
@TEXASAXE Жыл бұрын
i hope that the Custodes get there Hey lets teleport Dread to the Battle Again, so long Reserve does very good i would say, that is atleast how i saved them in 9th ED, when i Teleport was not an Option because of some Crusade Mission that said no Teleport
@bobalo9000
@bobalo9000 Жыл бұрын
Question regarding the rules for a 2 caestus telemon. Would it only get the same number of melee attacks as one, or does it get 10. Basically, do I have to rip the arms of my nicely posed models 😂
@MadToxin2876
@MadToxin2876 Жыл бұрын
You can only use one melee weapon in the fight phrase (aside from extra attacks, which the telemon doesn't have), so you only get 5 with one. You do get an extra flamer, so that's a thing. Hopefully they add some kind of rule for two fists getting twin-linked, since the helbrute has that
@RustySpoon
@RustySpoon Жыл бұрын
Magnetise the arms! The arms and weapons actually have circular slots to easily fit in large magnets
@eugenax9345
@eugenax9345 Жыл бұрын
Why isn't Telemon T12?
@Sovietskikh
@Sovietskikh Жыл бұрын
If the FW option seems lacklustre it's always because GW don't want you to buy FW stuff for 40K. FW and GW are at odds with each other and it's utterly insane how two departments of the same company are basically in competition.
@davidcox6454
@davidcox6454 Жыл бұрын
That would be retarded don’t cite lore because so many things don’t match their lore equivalent I always hate when people try to use that argument when it’s convenient. They are tough as shit and have a 2+ and a 4++ and -1 dmg that is plenty strong enough for a dreadnought.
@julianpourdanesh3339
@julianpourdanesh3339 Жыл бұрын
Also the Coronus grav carrier can carry 8
@fluets5658
@fluets5658 Жыл бұрын
Good spot! Useful distinction since Warden unit sizes are 3 or 6 so if you want a character on a big squad you need a Coronus.
@stripeybag6977
@stripeybag6977 Жыл бұрын
Where is Arbitees' tier?
@Polemiko09
@Polemiko09 Жыл бұрын
No thoughts on the Telemon dreadnought? 🤔
@davidcanty7903
@davidcanty7903 Жыл бұрын
Last entry on teir 2
@nobody-ol4ir
@nobody-ol4ir Жыл бұрын
i think its good that the Forge World stuff is not so Meta relevant
@Mastertryh4rd
@Mastertryh4rd 4 ай бұрын
All I have is the combat pack. (Just started and this is my first army) looks like I’m buying a grav tank. Lol
@a.p.2356
@a.p.2356 Жыл бұрын
The grav tanks are ludicrously powerful for the points, and the fact that they're 14W instead of 15 just adds insult to injury; if you do manage to kill the damn thing, it's only worth 3vp with Bring it Down. Also, Guard units are insanely good. My buddy just plunked a 10 man squad of those on the center objective, and managed to kill off Ghaz and his escort of 6 meganobz, and a 20 man boys unit led by a Warboss. How much damage did I manage to do with all of that, you might ask? 2W. I didn't even kill one of those gilded fuckers. I did make some pretty dumb tactical errors (namely getting Ghaz and his retinue shot to shit before they could even get into combat, and focusing my limited antitank shooting on the grav tanks rather than the infantry), and he did roll very well, but come ON. That entire game, I managed to kill 5 'Todes, one of which he resurrected with some Custodes BS. Interestingly, the best rolling of the game was when my killa kans managed to mulch two terminators who dropped behind my lines, but holy shit I got pantsed.
@MalumZeth
@MalumZeth 11 ай бұрын
Are the Custodes keeping their contemptors?
@nealdixon-jones5851
@nealdixon-jones5851 Жыл бұрын
Still no Space Wolves review?
@SlayerGodOfDeath
@SlayerGodOfDeath 11 ай бұрын
the weak unit from walking tall banana still able wreck 2 regiment traitor imperial guard with just 9 member
@cookierayyt3406
@cookierayyt3406 Жыл бұрын
aquilons got doinked. they were really quite good...
@BetterCallKahl
@BetterCallKahl Жыл бұрын
welp my whole list is t1 besides the prosecutors
@Wardopolis3030
@Wardopolis3030 11 ай бұрын
Ares and Orion need to be ranked higher. Either one of them, if dropped from a fair height, will wreck a whole squad of your opponents minis.
@Fredfredbug4
@Fredfredbug4 Жыл бұрын
I think you’re sleeping on Sisters a little bit. There’s a lot of psychic these days. Hell Tyranids just got 5 new psychic units.
@isaacfransonfilm2139
@isaacfransonfilm2139 Жыл бұрын
"melee in 10th ed is dead" Custodians: "..."
@matjov
@matjov Жыл бұрын
Another army with atrocious internal balance.
@alexrowson-brown6568
@alexrowson-brown6568 Жыл бұрын
Ok the bikes are ace as long as you can hide them then jump out shoot and charge as they will delete anything They can also nip all over the battlefield But they just cost too much tbh, I still play with them to mess around but honestly mass guard is the way to go
@Khobai
@Khobai Жыл бұрын
the bikes are fine. yes theyre mediocre compared to other custodes units. but the bikes are still way better than what most other factions have.
@alexrowson-brown6568
@alexrowson-brown6568 Жыл бұрын
@@Khobai indeed you can wait with them or hop them around cover etc, use the not in engagement move then move again then bam you in the enemy’s heart ripping chunks from tanks etc
@grubbie8614
@grubbie8614 Жыл бұрын
Id say the Caladius is T2. Its good, but you can definitely make strong lists without it.
@Sovietskikh
@Sovietskikh Жыл бұрын
Caladius is so strong and reliable without the transport tax of the Land Raider, it's easy T1.
@theprussianmink
@theprussianmink Жыл бұрын
I tend to agree, but only because of how many of the fairly op Guard units you could take instead of the Caladius.
@alexrowson-brown6568
@alexrowson-brown6568 Жыл бұрын
Caladius is pretty decent, but I have found it’s gone very quickly
@Butternades
@Butternades Жыл бұрын
It’s our only reliable ranged anti tank, if you include anything along those lines you include caladius it’s a tier 1
@alexrowson-brown6568
@alexrowson-brown6568 Жыл бұрын
T0 is must included, t1 is just strong options Hence guard are the only thing bordering t0
@davidcox6454
@davidcox6454 Жыл бұрын
Most annoying army that is undercosted compared to every other melee army except black templars.
@Butternades
@Butternades Жыл бұрын
Custodes are already expensive as hell, guard is 45ppm I think it’s more that other elite units, like eldar wraiths and neurons are way over costed
@davidcox6454
@davidcox6454 Жыл бұрын
@@Butternades nah compared to other melee armies they are undercosted for their stats. Those armies you listed are undercosted for sure but that doesn’t make custodes expensive. Grey knights are the same god damn cost. Custodians enjoy a stat line that is better than terminators they should cost more. Check out eightbound compared to custodes guard or wardens. Seriously they are too cheap and their characters are too cheap compared to some other melee armies too. Or those armies are overcosted but considering how elite they are supposed to be and how hard they are to remove I think they are too cheap should be 50-55 for their stats and abilities compared to other similar profiles bringing up eldar in any comparison is hilarious anyways they are too cheap everywhere and wraiths hit on 4s
@weissraben4476
@weissraben4476 Жыл бұрын
I've had games against other OP factions, but Custodes are by far the worst to play against. Not the most powerful: but the one that can look you in the eye, tell you "I'm not going to care about anything you do, you can't stop or damage me anyway", push all of their stuff across the field, totally in the open, and /not only/ get away with it, but - if you're not playing Eldars, or GSC, or IKs - utterly crush you. They need to go up in points (by a lot) or down in resilience (by a bit), because it's pretty clear they were written to be resistant /against Eldar/GSC fire/. Which need to burn down too, but that's another topic.
@northvietnam5218
@northvietnam5218 Жыл бұрын
A really easy way to fix that is to increase the table size back to what it was plus them just eating any fire isn't a thing is 2,000-3,000 point games most of the time you will have things to kill them unless you play an army gw just hates like deathguard
@Damnedlegion40k
@Damnedlegion40k Жыл бұрын
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@niger8393
@niger8393 Жыл бұрын
Where the drukhari tier list at
@derricktitley3784
@derricktitley3784 Жыл бұрын
FIRST POST DAMNIT
@mrcamo2usir
@mrcamo2usir Жыл бұрын
Bro go be unconscious in bed
@anophelesnow3957
@anophelesnow3957 Жыл бұрын
All Custodes are Tier 4, very unpleasant faction. Being cheap in money and playstyle and easy to paint should be good as an army for young or new players, but they are too powerful so we get weird things like being one of the most popular armies on the scene despite being super elite and hardly any of them alive. GW love those bores. But I guess it is nice and easy to spray a model gold, say he can't be killed and call it a day. Great vid as usual though, Auspex.
@hellka6104
@hellka6104 Жыл бұрын
You can indeed paint your custodes like this.. but you can push them further, especially with the cloaks and stuff like that. No need to be salty.
@Khobai
@Khobai Жыл бұрын
theres definitely a reason to be salty that custodes battleline spam destroys other factions. its dumb that they can just take 30 custodians and roll over just about every other army.
@hellka6104
@hellka6104 Жыл бұрын
@@Khobai you're allowed to play well. Destroy their unit one by one and you can win. Other armies have stupid mechanics, like SM with OOM
@henrikrasmussen7340
@henrikrasmussen7340 11 ай бұрын
Your thoughts are on point. But the way you deliver it is just. Makes me wanna go elsewhere really. deep voice, deep voice, deep voice, high voice, high voice. Repeat -.- oh my god, If not for your insight I would never watch you. Currently looking for others with better delivery - Anyone ?
@guyperson7487
@guyperson7487 10 ай бұрын
Then don’t watch
@Sebek031
@Sebek031 Жыл бұрын
Ohhh nnoooo bikers were nerfed to death,poor meta chasers,they need to get rid of their bike spam.
@alexmoran3187
@alexmoran3187 Жыл бұрын
Yea, bikes neded a nerf, but not what they done, literally are custodes that shoot worse than a normal unit have decent meele (really not for their price) and are a little bit faster than normal custodes for double the price, I think they just wanted people to stop using the bikes, because now it's better to use custode guards (I as a custode player hate this since I had one bike squad and now is just a overpaid custode guard that does the job worse)
@Khobai
@Khobai Жыл бұрын
@@alexmoran3187 and yet custodes bikes are still way better than what other factions have. you could literally run a list thats half custodes jetbikes and still place in the top 50% of a tournament easily.
@alexmoran3187
@alexmoran3187 Жыл бұрын
@@Khobai No, they are really a overpay, trust me, they doesn't work that well, I test it and a squads of terminators can handle the motos with ease
@Khobai
@Khobai Жыл бұрын
@@alexmoran3187 i didnt say they werent overcosted. just that theyre better than what half the factions in the game have now. it doesnt matter if theyre overcosted if they can easily mulch through their points cost in enemy models, which they can. even the bad custodes units are still better than half the factions in the game lol.
@alexmoran3187
@alexmoran3187 Жыл бұрын
@@Khobai nope, because you would have such a small quatity that wouldn't be good for every bike squad, rival could have 2 terminator or similars and have an absurd advantage
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