YNNARI: IT'S SIMPLE, WE KILL SLAANESH | Warhammer 40k Lore

[@Adeptusridiculous]

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[@jessiechen279]

Bricky i just figured out how they can get the 5th sword back!!!! Ask the only person who wouldnt be tempted.... Tranzyn! Only problem is convincing him to stay on task and then convince him to hand the sword over and not add it to his collection😁

[@ifandbut]

How much are the meals without the discount? Something like $15 or $20? Sounds expensive for what you get. Better deals at McDonalds

[@coldfire-blitz3122]

"Killing your entire race to kill your gods..." Necrons: Hey! I've seen this one, its a classic!

[@n.henzler50]

Definitely not picturing Trazyn doing the pointing Leo meme right now.

[@Gormathius]

Imagine an Ynnari leader is saying their plan, and a random Necron off in the corner just starts heckling, going "HEARD IT!"

[@boyanpenev9822]

When you need to finally bring the brat to heel.

[@ExtradaemonYT]

Slaanesh isn't the Eldar's God.

[@Knight-Bishop]

​@@ExtradaemonYT It's arguable, but I suppose it depends on how you define it. At the same time the C'Tan weren't generated in the warp by Necron belief either, they just sort of found them in realspace.

[@Guille2033]

When Bricky started talking about "you can't kill Slaanesh because you can't kill/erase a faction" I bursted out in laughter because that made me remember the End Times, in Warhammer Fantasy, exist

[@ColdNorth0628]

And also the Squats. And technically the chaos androids.

[@cthulhubecausewhynot1182]

Beasts of Chaos. Bonesplittaz. They can and will pull the trigger on a faction.

[@TheLordofMetroids]

Also, Slaanesh is kinda sorta dead right now in AOS. There are still Slaanesh armies. It actually makes them more cool as they are fighting to avenge/free their dead god, and it could happen.

[@Bluecho4]

@@TheLordofMetroids Slaanesh isn't dead, they're just in Horny Jail. And they're actively trying to break free, one chain at a time. It's really the exact opposite of being dead.

[@Guille2033]

@@TheLordofMetroids Slaanesh isn't dead but imprisoned. It isn't dead, that's why the faction still exists

[@Bluecho4]

The way the Ynarri were built up and then dropped unceremoniously makes a lot more sense when taken in context of what was likely happening behind the scenes at the time. The whole Fall of Cadia era, which this Ynarri plotline was enmeshed in, was being developed concurrently with the End Times over in Warhammer Fantasy. An event that, funnily enough, ended that game, to be replaced by Age of Sigmar. There's good reason to believe that GW was planning on rebooting 40K, much as they did with Fantasy. And the whole Fall of Cadia, Great Rift, Rise of the Ynead stuff would have culminated in that reboot. In essence, GW were setting things up to bring 40K to an end, so a new version of 40K could be started (where presumably GW made all the lore and background changes they wanted). In that light, the Ynarri story having such potential to annihilate the status quo in such a final way wasn't so bad, because the whole setting would be tied up with a little bow immediately afterwards. Ynead would be born, kill Slaanesh, usher in an age of prosperity for the Eldar, etc, etc. It wouldn't be a problem, because that version of 40K would be over and a new one would start. That, I think, was the plan. Then the End Times over in Fantasy actually happened, and everyone HATED IT. Hated it and everything having to do with the death of Warhammer Fantasy and the initial version of Age of Sigmar. I cannot understate just how botched that entire situation was by GW. Therefore, it's not unreasonable to assume that GW looked at the backlash against the Fantasy reboot, and got cold feet about rebooting 40K. The game that was the company's real money maker. So, while the tracks were still being laid for the Ynarri and books were in the works or being released, GW backpedaled. 40K still got a major rework, with the Great Rift and the Primaris Marines and the return of Guilliman, etc, etc. But it was a significantly scaled back shift in the status quo. Importantly, the setting as established would continue to exist. It just advanced forward in the timeline, with some aspects moved around or altered. In effect, GW canceled the 40K apocalypse. And that left the Eldar and the Ynarri out to dry, because their whole plotline was building towards that setting-ending event. Nothing has been done with the Ynarri, because their old story is non-viable. And no one has figured out or wants to figure out a replacement narrative. So the faction is kind of spinning its wheels, trapped in narrative limbo. Kept around because their minis still sell and people are invested in it. But more out of obligation, than any desire on GW's part to "finish" that story.

[@games-wz7sz]

Yes, but aos has slaanesh in a chair. Perhaps "killing" slaanesh is also not in the way we imagined

[@robinaabinor8771]

"I'm here to kill Chaos." -Yvraine, circa 999.M41, probably.

[@InquisitorThomas]

Ah the Ynnari… The last hope for the Eldar storyline to advance and for the Eldar to become a major player in the 40K storyline… currently floating face down dead in the water… don’t worry Eldar fans, Leman Russ will probably rescue Isha and preform your plot for you, because Xenos only exist to further the Space Marines’ character arcs… Fuck GW.

[@sirbloomthethird6934]

Leman finds Isha, recuse her from Nurgle, marries her thus being called either Sif or Frigg/Frigga by humans and her new step sons, then become a new god to the eldar creating a new sub-faction for the eldar called the Vil'kyrai or to humanity Snow Eldar.

[@nicholastorgerson125]

​@@sirbloomthethird6934see, as much as I would hate Space Marines commandeering the story again, that sounds dope.

[@meep9454]

​@sirbloomthethird6934 Please god no. Last thing we need is for the community to make another eldar character just be a waifu for a space marine.

[@gatordragon6140]

Would she even want to get saved though? Without her there there will be no one to spread the cures to nurgles gifts after all

[@PlasmaPea04]

This reminds me of that major kill video where he tries to fix the ynnari and the conclusion to the entire story line resulted in the webway getting cut off from the golden throne to give big e's mind some rest. Like i gotta be honest i would rather have it stay in Slaaneshes palace then become a plot device that helps the imperium, we atleast have something that could boost us back in Isha being stuck.

[@YoBen100]

Yvraine: "I'm the herald of death itself. Who dares to stand in front of me as an equal?" Roboute Guilliman: "Hello there."

[@grapenate782]

WHO ARE YOU I AM FROM ANCIENT GREECE

[@NeoIsrafil]

Yvraine after seeing the Robutt, "helloooo daddy!" 😂

[@RichardX1]

Imhotekh: "General Roboute!"

[@arcticghost1393]

​@@RichardX1 YOU FOOL, I HAVE BEEN TRAINED IN YOUR HUMAN ARTS BY NEMSOR ZANDREK!!!

[@consolescrub4031]

​@@RichardX1 The Lion: You're shorter than I expected.

[@derekswank6753]

If you want to imagine the impossible GW could release the next edition with a box of Ynnari Vs Emperors Children to focus the story on the rise of the new god and make everyone lose their minds.

[@JayBagent]

Man, I want to hit this thumbs up so hard it turns into a heart.

[@chuckgeither174]

Lol no loyalist space Marines there. Can't have that

[@s.a.l.1974]

I'd spend $250 on that

[@inductivegrunt94]

Ynnari Ending in two sentences. Slaanesh: You think you can just take this Crone Sword, and walk away alive?! Yvraine: Yeah...

[@mra4521]

And why not? Tolkien’s elves did it with Simarillions and their Dark Lord Who Must Not Be Named.

[@Haloister]

Or and hear me out the deity with a vested interest in keeping Ynnead from fully waking up and killing them who they are canonically still very afraid of could have . . . lied to make them believe they can't win and stop actively seeking out that gosh darn sword.

[@nikolthomas2544]

Ynnead IS a god of death, true, but also rebirth. Everyone seems to overlook that.

[@KirillTheBeast]

True that. I was shooting the shit with some old school 40k players a while ago and they all agreed in that one way GW could get away with "killing Slaanesh" would be to actually have the Ynnari pull off their plan only to find out they had grossly misinterpreted the prophecy. Ynnead kills Slaanesh, then revives them because Ynnead is literally incapable of killing anything even remotely Eldar without reviving it. The Eldar race could then be left with the pesky situation of being one step closer to understanding the truth about the nature of their "gods"; they're psychic constructs akin to machines or rather power tools. To a hammer, everything looks like a nail; if you bring one of those back to its full power, it'll just do what it was built to do, and if you've got just a shard of one, it'll try to regain its full might by doing as much as possible of what they're meant to do. This is consistent with how The Laughing God has behaved thus far (he's not good or evil, he's just a machine with a single gear labeled "stir shit up") and it would make Ynnead make sense, since it just woke up and went "yo, I is here to put Eldar souls through a death and rebirth cycle. THAT bitch has the most Eldar souls in it. Shank her!". Eldar get to not get swallowed by Slaanesh unless they "fall" on an individual basis, Eldar who are strong-willed enough can be reborn the old way, some Exodites could come back (pls gib Eldars riding dinosaurs) and GW could then have a paradigm in which the FINALLY REMOVE FUCKING SOUL STONES FROM THE FUCKING LORE! I don't know where that last bit came from but the two old school Eldar players strongly agreed on that point and I'm a filthy Drukhari player so I don't share their collective abandonment syndrome xD Rants aside, the rebirth aspect of Ynnead is the one key piece that could provide GW the flexibility and the creative space to actually move the lore of a non-Imperium faction forward into a new status quo, which is what a bunch of people want out of non-Imperium, non-Horus Heresy books.

[@pixo2280]

@@KirillTheBeast JW does not need to kill Slaanesh even. Just make the rebirth part undesirable, like rebirth to wraith construct. Than make Slaanesh use up almost all of her power to kill Yaneed and save aeldari race from it. In the mean time good old Chegorath will steal all of aeldars souls and make it hard for Slaanesh to keep aeldari souls forever. So unless aeldari use too much psychic power or be deprived like drukhari they will be on respawn time in Slaanesh domain for time. Thad would be such a good joke worthy of Prime Cloun. Power balance will not shake much, just that aeldari will start to be relevant again and can help with plotarmored bugs.

[@davidkoudelka10]

I just want to see more of Yvraine and the rest of the Ynnari. Could you imagine what it’s like for a Craftworld and Drukhari to work side-by-side after fighting each other for millennia and for Yvraine to try and constantly keep everyone from killing each-other? That sounds pretty interesting! And since it’s on everyone’s minds (because gods know it is) I know everyone ships Guilliman and Yvraine (whether serious or just for the memes/fanfiction) but I honestly just want to see more interactions between the two, like talking about what it’s like to be a leader of a faction constantly on doom’s door, what it’s like to feel like your the only one of your kind (since Yvraine is the only known chosen of Ynnead), and to be seen as an icon to your people. Friendly banter (non-romantic) would honestly be pretty funny.😂

[@doragonzx]

the Harlequin for some reason are helping in hunting down the Ynnari. like GW WTF. Cegorach is an Asshole but he still love his race/ Peoples, he would absolutly be deligthed in having a new sibling to prank. But he decided that abortion was cool

[@IAmTheStig32]

Yvraine: "Well, me an' Ynnead... [lights a smoke] We have an, understanding." The Visarch: "We're on a mission from God."

[@khylerbane4523]

Tell him you failed *blam* -Inquisitor Hader.

[@Kannibal84]

Now I’m picturing them in the Blues Mobile and it’s damn funny.

[@Danc929]

Paul Atreides and Stilgar

[@Angelfyre.]

Yvraine: “Would it make you feel better ma’am…if we told you this was a holy mission”

[@muriomoira]

Im kinda sad you guys didnt mentioned the cultural aspects of the ynnari since its a big deal for the faction. In the books we see eldar crying from happiness as yvraine breaks their soul Stones and set their souls free, something thought impossible; we see aspect warriors and drukhari fighting alongside each others and living eldars being able to interact with the soulstones of their loved ones in ways never thought possible before. More than anything, the ynnari are a backlass to a culture afraid of letting go from legacy. They're equaly hated and beloved by many eldar factions vc they're disruptive to traditions, bc diferently than other eldar factions, they have hope for the future since they actually have a plan better than "survive until you die"!

[@Sercotani]

honestly, yeah, ironically they got swamped by the doomerposting that the Eldar themselves are feeling. Well, at least there's comments like yours that'll explain more to people who bother scrolling down and reading the comments I guess.

[@ryanturner3176]

Yeah, I'm glad to see someone here actually read the books. it's surprising how many people on here have opinions about Eldar books that they haven't read.

[@SeanCrosser]

​@@ryanturner3176 99% of 40k fans only know Eldar from memes. Just look at how filtered DK was getting at basic Mythology 101 type stuff. I wouldn't put it past most people just gloss over any of the actual details and just end up with "mon'keigh murderfuck lying"

[@ryanturner3176]

@@SeanCrosser Long time Eldar player as well, and you're not wrong, the only consolation is that we do see that when people actually do pick up the books, read the codex, usually they get a new appreciation.

[@StygianSkunk]

Anime reference aside, Yvrane is basically 40k's Elminster. For those not aware, El started out as a rogue/fighter banged a goddess of magic, became a priest of said goddess, and *theeen* built up to being *the* archmage. So yeah. Also poor eldar.

[@drizzmatec]

Very minor correction: He actually became a priestess of Mystra.

[@StygianSkunk]

@@drizzmatec yes, that too!

[@boyanpenev9822]

@@drizzmatec And her boytoy. Or girltoy, depending on the period.

[@mra4521]

Tolkien Elves: Do all the cool stuff because it’s another chance to show off that he can write another song in a language he made up. Games Workshop Elves: Never get to do cool stuff because money-probably…

[@ryojimata3708]

The fact that the Dru'kari just "Le Yoinked," a hive tyrant is crazy.

[@oh7mak]

They "Le Yoinked" an entire planets worth of Nid's and keep them on a moon in Commoragh. They think the nids are fun to play with. It's an interesting distinction of how the Drukari are weak outside of Commoragh due to no psychic powers, slowly dying, and small numbers, but they have their ancient Eldar Empire super weapons intact in Commoragh.

[@wilholloway2924]

Damn, the swamp guy must be a drukhari then for the amount of yoinking that they do

[@NightWolf0228]

I mean in the Rogue Trader game they stole entire suns from other solar systems. A Hive Tyrant sounds like something crazy that Dark Eldar can do.

[@ryojimata3708]

@@NightWolf0228 I just got to playing it. Didn't know that

[@utes5532]

They steal suns on the regular, what's a hive tyrant or two?

[@Moss_196]

After the birth of Slaanesh, the Eldar realized that their death god may not be the god you want, but they're the god Ynnead...

[@mungpoppo]

Boo!

[@Moss_196]

Ah!

[@arandomkobold8403]

You know where the door is, _leave_

[@Moss_196]

@@arandomkobold8403 it brought me down here...

[@brandengonsalves3176]

-2 points

[@khylerbane4523]

Yvraine: “We’ve entered the warp. Now lets not do anything that will draw attention to ourselves.” Draigo: *appears out of nowhere* “Greetlings, have you seen my sword anywhere? I can not find it.” Eldrad: “It’s in your hand, Mon Keigh.”

[@Nopeace6]

I'd put money on the 40k Fulgrim model weilding the last sword. Fulgrim would certainly think he should have it. Might even snatch it himself during a visit, and that gets it back into the real world with the inevitable EC release. Then just another decade of the Ynarri chasing Fulgrim. Hey, its progress.

[@TheLordofMetroids]

Better than nothing. Would tie them into a current plotline.

[@Haloister]

Or and hear me out here, don't give the Xenos plot line to a Primarch daemon or otherwise. Just let Shelaxi maintain center stage on that.

[@isiahalcindor6278]

Just because you can't kill slanesh doesn't mean they should be shelved. What would be more grimdark and fun than seeing the Eldar persist and struggle against their inevitable doom while being relevant and shaping events

[@stryke-jn3kv]

Yeah I thought that was a really odd complaint as none of the factions can truly win as that would move the setting past where it's interesting to fight battles in. What are they going to complain because the Tyranids aren't going to be able to be eat everyone?

[@flameknightdragon]

Hell slanesh was beaten and sealed in AoS, and slanesh stuff did not just go away.

[@isiahalcindor6278]

@stryke-jn3kv exactly you can make literally every faction win but not win it ALL but if we do that then our precious space marines won't sell as much apparently

[@raithnor6007]

@@isiahalcindor6278 If they kill Slannesh, it'll probably be some corporate decision to replace the god with something more marketable. (ie lame)

[@harryellis910]

You mad lads did it! My favourite faction finally gets a video!!!

[@sirbloomthethird6934]

honestly I'm waiting for more ynnari books

[@kayeda1]

I feel sorry for you

[@kriegdeathkorp1286]

This are the Emo Elves, not to be confused with Edgy Elves. Emo elves can be kind.

[@NeoIsrafil]

I like to think of them as classical goth elves ^_^ 😅

[@sir_spams_alot4373]

Emos back in the day were fucking mean as hell but now they usually chill mfs.

[@l33t9r0u93]

raven guard night lords argument

[@Asgardiom]

it would be so cool if there is a book coming out where the Ynnari have to cooprate with Trazyn(Who wants to enter the warp and cannot be corupted since he has no soul and is a master of takening other peoples stuff) and pull of the greatest heist of all time. all ending with Trazyn just nicking the sword for himself because of course he does

[@JohnathanJWells]

And then they have to do a heist on Trazyn From Castle heist to museum heist

[@oniemployee3437]

​@@JohnathanJWells"Guys. The Sword. Go get it."

[@boyanpenev9822]

Nah, we can have a heist plot without Trazyn. By now he's a meme who'd hijack it anyway. The Ynnari have what might be the living chrysalis of Cegorach on their side, they don't need Trazyn stealing the plot for them.

[@1Milo37]

Yay an Eldar episode. I wonder if Bricky can go one episode without mentioning his hatred of elves. Edit: Mostly.

[@patg1094]

Petition to make bricky listen to "The Hand of Darkness" short story so he can hear how they pronounce Ynead and die a little inside.

[@patg1094]

@@H-to-O the y is an i and the ead is pronounced like Illiad so it's more like Iniad

[@lordofshades9852]

​@@patg1094it was also pronounced in the Warhammer workout set April fools vid

[@ColdNorth0628]

​@@patg1094i will petition to smack whoever came up with that name with a frying pan for thinking it would not be pronounced how a dr sues book writes "Th'need"

[@hpenvy1106]

eNeed Seriously, how would one know?

[@EmaRussoUltra]

@@hpenvy1106 by reading it as it’s written. Not in english though, but any other neo-latin language works.

[@Volvith]

Me normally when a video comes out: "Only an hour? Come on, there's so much more to talk about!" Me watching this episode: _"How the f*ck did they stretch this out to an hour? Jesus."_

[@stryke-jn3kv]

Bitching about GW mainly

[@MoleHillish]

I'm putting my money on the sigmar route: Slanesh gonna throw up a bunch of souls. She's not dead but now the elder have more than before but same problem

[@chronovac]

It's such a shame that they came up with one of the coolest concepts for how to continue the Eldar story, and then they got Gav Thorpe to write the trilogy, and then canned the third book when he inevitably botched it. Why? Because GW cannot stand when it's someone other than the Imperium or Chaos progressing the narrative

[@wayoftherose]

I think that's a little unfair to Gav since he has written some of the best books in 40k lore. He's just not that good when it comes to stuff outside the Space Marines and Chaos focused elements, but he's great inside his wheelhouse. Plus, in the defense of GW, I doubt there's many people working there as writers who actually like the Eldar that much since all the elf focused books are mid at best

[@chronovac]

@@wayoftherose And you wanna know who wrote all of those mid Eldar books? Gav. They just need to give another author the reigns for Eldar like they did Mike Brooks and Orks or Nate Crowley and Necrons cause it's clear it just isn't Gav's forte.

[@wayoftherose]

@@chronovac - GW being GW 🤷

[@alecatnight1540]

It’s crazy how gavsdrubael thorpe did so much for eldar early on… only to have his magnum opus be a major craftworld getting roflestomped by a no-lore oc space marine CHAPTER. No wonder ADB doesn’t feel comfortable advancing his ulthwe gets invaded by night lords story plot.

[@ExtremeEnthusiast704]

Really need some good writers for Eldar

[@fishy1856]

One of the coolest parts of the ynnari is they they bring in some dark eldar. It makes them seem more like the subfaction of the overall aeldari race rather than just mustache twirling torture elves.

[@EVER_PRINCE]

In AoS Slaanesh is sealed away and doesn’t play a huge part, but her armies are still playable and have a huge influence in the setting. They could easily have the Drukari and Vect take up the role of new Slaanesh forces.

[@spencerruston406]

Only person to ever infiltrate Slannesh's palace was The Changeling, daemon of Tzeentch. Snuck in, stole a single hair from Slannesh and escaped. Ynnari, harlequinns and Tzeentch teaming up to fuck up Slannesh doing sort of what happened in Age of Sigmar with Slannesh imprisoned or weakened. We'd need an entire new range of Eldar and change in the narrative to accomondate it.

[@mra4521]

How did the elves steal their gemstones back from Morgoth’s crown in Tolkien? Because I feel like that might be helpful information to know here…

[@thefloridaman41]

To let DK know Vastorr got a detachment in the new Chaos Marine Codex and he currently slaps… he slaps hard.

[@victorayorke7123]

Ynnari have this extremely anime feeling of reckless, iconoclastic hope that is such a welcome thing to see. Especially for a faction whose entire thing is stumbling and sleepwalking along on their way to extinction. Its a very good implementation of hope being a form of rebellion that the weight of grimdark can't snuff out. By letting the Ynnari plot die, its not just GW ignoring Eldar or saying get back in your corner... its GW confirming that the eldar only exist to be a pillow princess for other peoples plots, that they can more easily be canned by corporate decision than they can try to change their fate. And thats extremely uncomfortable to see.

[@Astronometric]

The new Lelith Hesperx book by Mike Brooks that will come out later this year will have the Ynnari in it. It was already confirmed in the warhammer-community article that presented the novel. But as usual, if is not a space marine novel no one online will ever talk about it.

[@MaterialObserver3956]

49:30 Fabius Bile literally just stared at Slaanesh and said "I just see stars. Da phuq is everyone freaking out about" *while* hemorrhaging and getting a heart attack from just straight up staring a Chaos God in the face.

[@samhescott348]

Fabius based as hell 😭

[@Al_N_Infer]

Read the actual novel, Fabius had a massive panic attack and started coping by repeating that there's nothing there, only stars, it's just simple natural phenomena while he was shitting himself in fear WHILE he was suffering total organ failure because Slaanesh decided to simply look at him. He would have probably died if not for all the drugs that restarted his hearts and managed to stabilize his body while Slaanesh was just watching and laughing at him.

[@Bluecho4]

@@samhescott348 More like Fabius in deNile.

[@Howler452]

It's a shame, because the concept of the Ynnari is actually what got me interested in the Eldar when I first diving into 40k. Oh how naive I was, before I knew about GW's hatred of the Eldar.

[@xenostyrant4118]

I cant remember if you mentioned it in the TSons episode but one of my favourite parts is Yvraine being stuck in the Webway with a bunch of her followers and gets attacked by Ahriman who teleports her into the Warp. To escape she resurrects a bunch of Rubrics to flesh (who promptly get murdered by angry Eldar) that are very confused and think the Great Crusade is still going on. Ahriman goes wtf and Yvraine uses the distraction to escape.

[@deepfriedfred]

Man DK's ending howl of "Slaanesh prevails!" Is such a good sound bite

[@krankarvolund7771]

In Dark Imperium, Guilliman straight up think "the only Eldar I trust is Eldrad Ulthran". So, if there's a ship to build between Guilliman andn Eldar, it's not with Yvraine XD

[@ArchArturo]

So Yvraine has the power of the Eldar Gods AND Anime on her side.

[@westonbuckner1755]

“It’s very on the nose but it does look cool, so I’m okay with it.” Isn’t this basically the tagline for 40K?

[@Whiteknight-xg2pq]

"Sits on their hands and do nothing despite it probably selling well if they did it". Me: Weird that sounds similar to a Guard sub-faction that all looked like desert raiders but no one apparently liked, and were discontinued from my understanding. Yet I think they looked awesome because they didn't look like the regular guard. Just wish I could remember what they were called.

[@AngryHomunculus]

Tallarn Desert Raiders. Lorecrimes did an episode on Guard Regiments and talked about them for a bit

[@Whiteknight-xg2pq]

​@@AngryHomunculus Oh thank you, I'll have to watch that.

[@sharlockshacolmes9381]

Ho nooo Bricky skipped the part where the death watch guy said "I'd rather see holy terra burn and the empire crumble than trust a filthy Xeno" when Eldrad said please just wait 3 sec I finish this and you can kill all of us, that'll help you defeat chaos too.

[@WolfClant]

plot device: *exists* DK: "is this anime?"

[@13ishup]

The Ældari Shinigami

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

Cease and desist by order of the inquisition warboss sneaksaload.

[@shibuishibui3706]

holy bleach 😳

[@brendanwhite4492]

Something I would like to add is that in Age of Sigmar lore something akin to "Slannesh dying to save the elves" is currently whats happened. The way AoS handled it is that Slannesh is tricked and imprisoned in a paradox realm where the new Aelf pantheon then cut out and siphon elf souls from. Technically Slannesh is "missing" from the chaos pantheon in AoS, it is even shown with Archeon's model where his mount has a head for each of the chaos gods, except Slannesh because they are missing. But her essence is still there, the realms of Slannesh is still in the warp, just the throne room is empty. A big plot line for AoS Slannesh armies right now is the search for their missing god. Really interesting stuff. I can definitly see a out for GW in that Reborn Ynead god could fight slannesh forever in the warp while harliquinn clown god does a sneaky and yoinks the souls to get reborn. But Slannesh is still extremely powerful so some Eldar souls get sent to Slannesh but there is hope that Ynead and Kekgod could rescue some souls.

[@khylerbane4523]

*After the awakening of Ynnead* Vect: *panicking* “That was Insane! I was NOT in control of that situation!” Rakarth: *having a crisis* “We can’t keep doing this.” Sythrac: *trying to keep it together* “Why you do this, Master?” Vect: “I Don’t Know! Maybe I hate myself, may I think I deserve to die, may it just who I am and who i can only be, I don’t know!” Lelith: *thousand yard stare after what she just seen* Mandrakes leader: *hands shaking* “Look at this, look at my hands.” * Tahril: “We need a vacation.”

[@genoveus]

God I love the WARHAMMER LORE podcast you guys do! I just keep coming back to it everytime.

[@Bakroth85]

I mean, they could use the AoS option where Slaanesh is imprisoned outside of time and space, unable to contact the mortal realms. Then the big named demon just does shit in their name, no change.

[@ExtremeEnthusiast704]

Hmm, it's definitely an option, but we'd need more slaanesh orientated characters, stares at Fulgrim and Eidolon.

[@TheLordofMetroids]

@@ExtremeEnthusiast704 The fact that EC are not in the CSM codex tells me they are coming in this edition.

[@Bakroth85]

@@ExtremeEnthusiast704 I think in AoS the named Secret Keeper basically fulfils the role of Slaanesh, so they could do that here. Would also work with the expected return of Emperor's Children. Give them some named characters!

[@Bluecho4]

@@Bakroth85 When you really think about it, do the Chaos factions really NEED their god to be an active force? So long as the army still exists, that's all that really matters. It's not like you're ever going to field Khorne Himself on the tabletop. Even if the Eldar pulled the same trick as in AoS, Slaanesh still has a presence through their followers, mortal and daemonic.

[@Bakroth85]

@@Bluecho4 That's kind of where my thoughts went. GW have proven they could do something. Whether they actually will allow the Eldar any kind of win is up for debate though.

[@freshbroceries4601]

I will forever mourn the loss of being able to watch Magnus royally fuck up Ynead's birth somehow in TTS

[@JoseMendoza-JAM]

Probably does but ends up just making us get back to Canon timeline 🤔

[@fitz3466]

Hey guys, been listening to you all since day 1. and just want to say you guys (bricky, Dk, and shy you guys made my 3 years of being blind significantly more bearable and your shows where one of the highlights that kept me going through)

[@Blee307]

Basically with Ynnead the Eldar are pulling the, "I brought you into this world, I can take you out of it", card on Slaanesh.

[@Gormathius]

30:25 "The goal is, naturally, to still summon the god ya need." -Bricky

[@Jaqrkazi]

Modern 40k can essentially be summed up as such: GW creates interesting, new additions to the lore, obviously designed to take it into new places and expand the story. After the initial introduction, they then refuse to touch it and keep printing Chaos/Space Marine shit for the next several years.

[@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460]

I honestly hate Chaos as a faction too. It's so lame.

[@Jaqrkazi]

@@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460 GW seems to be deathly afraid of developing anything outside the main imperials vs. chaos conflict, even when there are so many more interesting groups that haven't gotten a fraction of the development that chaos has

[@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460]

@@Jaqrkazi Exactly. In fact, I don't really care for the whole demonic possession element of Chaos. I'd much rather Chaos be a human empire that was formed out of genuine, if misguided, mistrust and hatred of the Emperor, rather than the nonsense we have with four Space Satans.

[@sharlockshacolmes9381]

Trazynn when he learns he can collect the Eldar equivalent of Exodia by fighting god avatars, and venturing in the palace of Slaanesh, just to do absolutely nothing with it. 👌👌👌

[@christianbarbosa1257]

The way out of this conundrum is to make Yneed sever the connection that the Aeldarii and Ynnarii have with She Who Thirsts by using the power of 4 of the 5 swords, making a pocket in the Warp where the Aeldarii souls go when they die. But since Slaneesh wants those souls, she is constantly trying to destroy the pocket, making so that the dead Aeldarii need to help with the protection of the pocket against the God of Excess. It kinda keeps the status quo of the game, while also giving the setting a BIG change that can have a Nth of repercussions (they can even kill some major characters for that).

[@Khornecussion]

So Ynnead is a sort of... low-tier god, you could say.

[@deadboyo2773]

"you should kil-"

[@jeambeam3173]

What's horrifying is whta likely also went down when the Dark Eldar captured the Hive Tyrant was they probably also visited some civilians and asked them "hey innocent individuals would you like to escape with us away from this attacking Hive Fleet?" And then that goes exactly how you think it would

[@gptd7178]

I could see it happening where they do finally manage to manifest Ynnead and he does battle Slaanesh directly, and it looks like he's going to win (despite the fact Slaanesh ripped open almost the entire Eldar pantheon single-handedly, but prophecies and stuff I guess) when the other Chaos Gods intervene, since while they are opposed to Slaanesh they're not going to let some outsider god steal their kill. Then Cegorach shows up with the shards of Khaine ready to unite and resurrect, and also with Isha who used the distraction to escape Nurgle's garden. Apocalyptic god battle ensues. The Eldar gods have to retreat, but they get two of their number back in the process. This way they can build on what's there without having to massively overhaul anything.

[@SalvaBarbus]

I wouldn't mind if this progressed the story a bit, heresy as it might be. For example, somehow the 5 swords are reunited, Ynead cuts off all Eldar souls from Slaanesh, but the united Eldar now are locked in an eternal war against She Who Thirsts (and GW loves deadlocks, right?). You could make it so now Slaanesh is more fixated in humanity or something. After all, endless passion and suffering should exist anywhere in the universe for Them to feed upon.

[@H_Hold]

Since Gaewokeshop has been doing what they do best; I want to see a direction taken where some Marines and guardsmen alike display a desire to work with the Eldar to bring about a future where humanity and eldar fight on the same side. It begins with a cessation of hostilities between humanity and the Eldar, slowly a sentiment develops to reach out directly to one another and in deliberations it's uncovered that 1. The Eldar that aren't drukhari would rather not fight humans. 2. Surprised but elated by this, the imperial liaison who is flanked by ranking space Marines and guardsmen agree that they'd rather not fight the Eldar. 3. Further discussion lays out who the Eldar see as a threat and why; and the Imperium agrees and lays out who they see as a threat; to which the Eldar concur. 4. The talks end with an exchange of insignias and callsigns as well as dedicated communication relays to directly get into contact when necessary; with the aforementioned identifying markers being exchanged to denote friendly forces for if and when they run into each other unintentionally. I'd also like to see some Eldar develop an affinity for bolter weaponry; death jesters would have a field day

[@dominicharris5851]

The best part about the Ynnari is the fact we got a plastic Gyrinx. Space cat, the best cat. I brought the Yvraine kit just to use the kitty kat as an objective marker / token for my Kill Team Corsairs.

[@MorphicGalaxy]

Just love the Ynnari. Too bad that Yvraine revived some Rubrics in front of Ahriman just to immediately make the Yncarne eat their souls, and as a Thousand Sons player I’m obligated to despise the faction & ignore the fact that Ahriman had chucked Yvraine into the Warp first.

[@Some_Average_Joe]

Wut.

[@Whiteknight-xg2pq]

Oh wow... Well that's fucked.

[@alecatnight1540]

Or you can think it’s based bc it is

[@crim1188]

@@alecatnight1540 Shit writing is what it is.

[@crampusmaximus8849]

Trans furry 🤮🤮🤮

[@Transmissional]

Always a pleasure listening to these videos. I only wish I could go back in time and watch them with my hearing intact. Getting worse and worse everytime I get back on the Adeptus Ridiculous horse lol.

[@BlackEpyon]

Speaking of vtubers, are you going to invite our favorite legally distinct bug over next time you do an episode on the Tyranids?

[@carlosrojas8242]

I would be so down for that

[@lukefishlock2715]

Head cannon/fan theory..., When they reintroduce the emporers children in the lore with Fulgrim he or the demon they fought with have the sword. Slannesh will go on a massive win streak like Nurgle did before getting curbstomped by a united Imperium and Eldari front, but instead of killing Slannesh and her realm they will only greatly wound her/him/it whilst retrieving the sword and partially releasing the death god to help the Eldari to repopulate at a slow rate and save their souls but not completely so they are not able to become o.p'ed.

[@Sir_Bucket]

DK has been very good at getting quotes these past few episodes. I'm so proud of him, his 40k brainrot is finally reaching its terminal stage!

[@painlord2k]

3rd Option: bring Guilliman in the Palace of Slaanesh and make the Emperor burn the place. In the confusion steal the sword.

[@chipmercury]

I like the Ynnari bc 1) it saves you from having to make 3 separate armies; you can just take what you want from the three main factions and field it. I hope one day we get an Exodite killteam or something for that faction as well 2) The storyline is cool to me. It has the vibes of the young, wily hero vs the evil gods and their servants. Like a classic greek tale

[@Solus1994]

Bricky: You can't delete an army people play GW: GOOD BYE BEASTS OF CHAOS PLAYERS

[@isawaryokage]

Yvraine needs to ask Guilliman to order Draigo to just go to Slaanesh's realm, P1$$ on her fruit punch and recover the sword. He already raided all of the Chaos Gods realms before.

[@steelgreyed]

27:30 Ya kinda needed to mention Ynnead's birth was very similar to Slannesh's. Aka a large majority of those watching the birth from the arena seats got slurped on the spot, leaving only bone dust. These were the Ruling Elite of Commorragh, who got insta-snuffed, leaving most of the city was leaderless, and to say this caused an uproar and a riot is an understatement. As usual Vect survived this.

[@thisisalie-ft8cv]

I had a stupid idea for an allied unit to run with guardsmen and space marines. you can run 1 group of Custodian Guardsmen from the aquilan shield with any 1 of your none monster/vehicle characters, you could also attach it to a battleline unit but you must pay the full cost of the unit for 1 model as the aquilan shield cannot be bothered to protect the entire squad.

[@csgilmore3536]

I'm just imagining the eldar needing to get a crone sword out of slaaneshes palace. The laughing god, "bring me kaldor drago, a webway gate, and some duct tape."

[@CommissarMitch]

I love the dycotomy between Warhammer and the Pathfinder universe when it comes to the gods and whatnot. Because in Warhammer; sure gods have died but none have done so in the current time to shake things up. Meanwhile in Pathfinder one of the very recent big events was one of the gods being slain and throwing the entire setting into chaos.

[@James_randomleters]

Anyone else looking forward to when "pilled" and "coded" leaves popular vocabulary?

[@kanseiyamazaru435]

Aw yes, the sub-faction that was doomed from the word go.

[@TheLordofMetroids]

"you can't kill Slanessh!" Pan over to AOS that did in fact kill Slanessh.

[@Bluecho4]

Slaanesh isn't dead in AoS. They're just in Horny Jail.

[@darklife5091]

Oh neat, saw they got added to the DoW1 Soulstorm Unification mod and I had no idea what was up with them, glad I have this to watch now

[@RothianFairmoon]

Finally, talking about my favorite faction! whoo, other than Farsight Enclaves lol

[@GabrielLopez-mo2xo]

It’s incredibly lore accurate that when the chaos gods win an imperial servant deploys the terminus decree. We are all proud of shy for ending chaos once and for all

[@juniusluriuscatalus6606]

Did I just witness DK KO Bricky with "I'm doing it for the memes!"? I think I did... Bad young, sorry, good old Brickster did epic fail here... :D :P

[@sebastianlabadie9597]

My dad was the head chef for two of Emeril’s restaurants in Vegas. Got to to meet him once, and like to use him as my “met this famous person” guy. And I can say with absolute certainty that no one in the zoomer demographic has a damn clue who he is.

[@krankarvolund7771]

I mean, AoS did something pretty similar where the Elves united, defeated Slaanesh, stole back all their souls and imprisonned him. You could still play Slaaneshi forces, it's just that they're the ones seeking their God and a way tofree her now instead of the Elves ^^ It's like, you can't kill Cadia, they're THE Guard army.... But you can explode the planet and have the Cadians become a nomad culture XD

[@KamikazeIsaaku]

Need to make a poster with eldar nicholas cage planning on stealing the crone sword from slaanesh's palace.

[@jamesdeek7039]

So remember how scarbrand betrayed khorne, maybe a slaneshi greater daemon could steal that sword away for some reason

[@wolvie90]

Whenever I hear about Eldar lore, I think it's really fucking cool and interesting. Then I look at their model range...

[@noahmehringer29]

Major Kill had a video of how GW should have done the Y'nnari story and it was actually good. Left in a way that was both open ended while leaving a nice path to where the Eldar COULD win.

[@ForTheLaughingGod]

More Eldar Content Baby!!!! Let's Gooo!!! I hope DK gets a kick out of this one because this faction, and it's story, is anime as F***

[@ArcusArmis19]

"Max 30 minutes of lore" Longer video than the Iron Hands video LMAO i am in great pain

[@davidlane7444]

If Bricky was 20 years older he would of gave Billy Mays a run for his money

[@kit_race]

They could get away with killing or defeating Slaanesh, they've been sealed away in AoS for a while now without problems. The Slaaneshi daemons are still around.

[@wayoftherose]

A quote I made for the Ynnari: "Once a warrior covered in the blood of her lustful, depraved enemies, a hope for their entire Eldar race to conquer the stars, now left facedown in a puddle of their fluids in defeat. What wasted potential..." Here's to the suffering of the Eldar as they'll never be as important as the Space Marines/Chaos Space Marines in the lore of 40k..

[@georgemarsden4226]

45:50 it wouldn't be the first time there was a 1/2 human 1/2 eldar space marine... (Rouge trader)

[@Erebdai]

I will the Ynnari had been around In earlier editions. I played Ulthwe Eldar in 3rd edition and the younger non Ork playing guy would have loved this. But now I roll the tide... The green tide, not Alabama.

[@TheIdealofGreed]

I mostly have to wonder why the eldar think this might work, as their dead god is supposed to be made of eldar souls who are said to be distracted by desiring their old life & frequently day-dreaming or something like that. Especially as, ya know, newborn Slaanesh already ate more souls then there are in the craftworlds pre-Ynnead

[@magicaljagical647]

Imagine Jaghatai Khan coming out of the Webway holding the 5th Crone sword and well the Khan really hates Eldar, especially the Drukari. So him cooperating with the Ynnari would be very iffy.

[@alecatnight1540]

Whoever wrote psychic awakening: ynnari plot is dead bc last sword in slaanesh palace. (Us the fans): Yvraine can break into the palace of slaanesh with harlequin tears and believing really hard.

[@migrivp2672]

Jenga tarkov and Lee moonrush would be good for that, the fastest primarch and the one who can drink get in slanesh land and get a sword

[@Zivon96]

DK: Makes jokes about Guilliman/Yvrain Iskandar Khayon: *Laughs in cannon Drukhari waifu*

[@chrisdufresne9359]

Hold up, this is just the plot of Power Rangers Lost Galaxy

[@brianvanmaanen1897]

Maybe when Fulgrim returns he will wield the last Cronesword? it would set up a clear target and make a clear advisary.