Adidas Adios Pro 4 First Run: The Best Adios Pro carbon racer yet?

[@endrosaprian1761]

Definitely will buy this AAP4, doesn’t need my left kidney anyway.

[@m.ch4rmaland3r10]

This is a better review than all the ones i have seen lately, which is essentially reading the script. Thanks

[@TheRunTesters]

Well that's very kind of you to say so, thanks.

[@EastonHB27]

The rubber on the bottom actually isn’t Continental. The only part that is, is the little pink box under the big toe. The rest is adidas’s own compound which isn’t really rubber at all.

[@Gerlfcbobby]

hopefully it's as good pro 3 which IMO is the best shoe I've ever run in

[@TheRunTesters]

Early signs are positive. Fit definitely a step forward for me.

[@legendsofmyself]

SAME!!!!!!!!

[@alwaystmoza]

Really ? What other shoes you tried. Thought they were terrible. Uncomfortable. Rubbed in certain areas just like the video said how the previous version wasn't as good and mentioned the same issues I had and many people had. You should try the Paris Metaspeed. Those are a dream shoe so comfortable and very fast.

[@luna.0701]

@@alwaystmozalas nike son más exigentes para la musculatura que Adidas. Adidas es mejor para gente popular

[@Gerlfcbobby]

@alwaystmoza just found in the marathon when my legs got tired they helped just keep me going

[@rinksdinks]

Great review as always fan of the Lightstrike Pro foam in the Pro 3 but the fit of the uppers caused pressure points above the toes and this Pro 4 appears to have fixed that issue

[@botrytis_cinerea]

The day we've been all waiting for. My KZbin home screen looks like an Adidas Pro 4 commercial, is full of Pro 4 reviews. Looks funny. Had to sell my Pro 3 as it was too uncomfortable, gave me blisters on my right feet (arch) and it was just way too firm (gave me plantar fasciitis). I appreciate that others love the Pro 3 and work for them but for me it was a big disappointment. Can't wait to get my hands on a pair of Pro 4. Great review guys as always!

[@alwaystmoza]

Same hated the 3. Could never get used to them and just gave them away.

[@ser1ification]

Same, but I’m not sure about this one as well

[@botrytis_cinerea]

@@ser1ification I'm very optimistic about the Pro4. i think it's going to be a strong keeper.

[@adamtherunner92]

That rocker is literally what is putting me off the shoe, any more upturn and I can see alladin wearing them.

[@TheRunTesters]

But didn't Alladin fly?

[@adamtherunner92]

@@TheRunTesters I think a magic carpet is mechanical doping, but probably not banned just yet.

[@ser1ification]

@@adamtherunner92 lol

[@greertops]

HERE.WE.GO

[@paulcain9442]

Liked the 2.0; still love the 3.0 hoping the 4.0 is even better 🏃‍♂️ 🤞

[@legendsofmyself]

Same... Started from 2 & 3 didn't disappoint... I hope 4 even further impresses. I just really fear that durability is being compromised across all running shoes these days. It's like they want you to come for another pair ASAP

[@marklanghorn9220]

Is it wider than the pro 3? Thanks

[@Snowgod-i7m]

Thanks Kieran informative review, could you please pass along some thoughts comparing Hoka Rocket X 2 and A AAP 4, thanks

[@TheRunTesters]

Thanks. Will try to get to something on the Mach X2 vs this one once done more testing.

[@Lsj1775]

So pumped for these

[@andreabattelli867]

Hi Kieran. Great review and very detailed as usual. I found that some Adidas running shoes sometimes fit slighty short (original Terrex Speed Ultra) or a little long (Takumi sen 8) and I had to go for a half size up or down. How about the AAP4? Many thanks

[@NateCrail]

Super excited for this one! I love the midsole and grip of my Adios Pro 3, but wasn't a fan of the upper and lockdown at all.

[@dropattop5409]

I watched like 5-6 reviews of AAP4 and this is the best one. Not kidding nobody was even running in those 😂What marathon tempo do you think is required for marathon to consider buying this shoe? my PB is 3h20min

[@kaprikornian1]

I think I will wait for the Endorphin Elite 2 :P. Anyway, I do think there's a small correction to be made: from what I've read so far, the continental grip is only in the red triangle in the forefoot. The rest is a dubbed down (aka lighter but worse) version of it.

[@i.p2088]

Great review 🎉🎉 size - I am 8.5 in the Pro 3 and Boston 12 BUT need to go up half a size in the SL2 being short .. Does this fit like the Pro 3 or short like the SL2?

[@m.ch4rmaland3r10]

I have the same setup. Curious on the sizing on the pro4

[@smagic614]

Adidas is TTS on thin upper models (B12, Adios 8, AP3) and half a size up on cushioned models (SL2, Supernova, Ultraboost).

[@TheRunTesters]

I ran in a UK 8.5 in the Pro 3 and in the Pro 4. I'd say go with your Pro 3 size.

[@kevinclark5086]

I was hoping they would of filled the sole cut out personally for more stability. Other than the upper the profile looks very similar to the pro 3.

[@aSkibidiRunner]

The 3 was dogwater

[@richarddbonus]

Finally 🎉❤❤

[@RohanHammett]

Same rubbish laces as v3? What is that about - it can’t cost much to put decent laces in your premium race shoe Adidas?!?

[@theghostofpcs2391]

That seems to be one thing they're consistent at, throughout the Adizero line...

[@CannabisTechLife]

Maybe look up the Ted talk on how to tie shoe laces the right way. Many people do it wrong. I've never had any issues with any of adidas laces.

[@Charlie-ww9mv]

btw the dominant clear rubber of the outsole isn't continental, it's cast polyurethane. only the red insert that says continental is continental

[@David-cg7ms]

Hi, AP3 was perfect for heavy runner, is this lightstrike pro foam softer ?

[@TheRunTesters]

It is tune a little softer, yes.

[@David-cg7ms]

@@TheRunTestersThank you, I need to stock some AP3 ;)

[@michaelmi7903]

Heavier runner here as well, I suspect I won't like these as much as the 3 due to the increased softness. Will likely be stocking up on the 3 and will try the evo sl.

[@Ywaarde]

Does the stitching in the heel collar resemble the stitching of the AP3? Or is it more like the Boston 12? My achilles got absolutely destroyed in the AP3 but the different stitching on the Boston 12 fit me very well.

[@matthanna1980]

Folding the heel tab inwards fixed this for me, as it covered that terrible stitching.

[@modz619]

Lets go!

[@Talos353]

How is the toe box width?

[@stubestrong]

looks narrow still

[@JohnBirtchetSharpe]

Sounds good , we had the same issues with pro 3 , so perhaps pro 4 would be worth a look at.

[@TheRunTesters]

I think if fixes a lot of those rubbing problems.

[@yohanesbonar389]

🔥🔥

[@mikewarrentube]

Great first review, thanks

[@TheRunTesters]

Cheer Mike. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@Davyj81]

Cant wait for these to drop love my pro 3’s pity they not released until January 😌

[@TheRunTesters]

Bit of longer wait than usual.

[@videoforum4047]

To remind: Runrepeat measured the stack height of Adios pro 3 in a lab. Claimed forefoot: 33m, actual 29.8 mm, Claimed heel: 39,5, actual 37,8mm Claimed drop: 6,5mm, actual 8mm

[@huzcer]

Lots of shoe stack heights vary across different sizes.. The important thing was that it was a great shoe and easily the most durable foam in any super shoe racer with way more miles /kms in the foam life compared to Nike or Asics

[@fergusdenoon1255]

those videos are dubious at best, demonstrably incorrect at worst. I'm basically watching them right now measuring forefoot foam about an inch too far foreword, and then taking that measurement away from the heal Hight to gain the drop measurement, even though the part he measured was clearly about 5-6mm off the ground... then having a go at the shoe manufacturer for getting the drop wrong... not to mention no word of what shoe size they're actually measuring...

[@videoforum4047]

@@fergusdenoon1255 Never watched their videos, but on their website they almost always tell the shoe size. In Adios 3 case it was US 9. They even compare for example what the advertised length is for US 9 and they measure the real length too. The stack height measurements are all in accordance with World Athletics official rules. So the measurement point/location where they do make those measurements are indeed accurate. They even have an article where they explain why the drop sometimes contradicts with the manufacturers official number, but it’s not a measurement error.

[@huzcer]

@@videoforum4047 yeah well what I actually care about is that "the magic" in the cushioning foam before it's dead lasts 2X at least what a Nike Vapourfly or Asics Meta speed does while also performing.

[@fergusdenoon1255]

@@videoforum4047 watch the videos, lose the confidence.

[@Kaisersozze]

So is the toebox more narrow then the Pro 3? Is going a half size up a possibility?

[@TheRunTesters]

No, if anything there's more flex and room now the lacing setup has changed.

[@Kaisersozze]

@@TheRunTesters Great, thank you!

[@RoYaNoV]

Look fantastic

[@JRJapaneserunnerinUK]

Looks good! Seems less firm cushioning which I ❤️

[@6LJOE]

Similar to endorphin elite 2 I guess

[@MrNooge]

I wish they would revise the heel counter. Looks like another blister maker

[@TheRunTesters]

Not had any trouble yet. But these heel collars can be a bit of a worry on longer distances.

[@BrianGoldstein927]

Did I miss the price?

[@fergusdenoon1255]

same price as the pro 3.

[@paparj1076]

Welp, gonna use this as a workout 👟

[@mopoffool]

You barely mention the outsole. I haven't worn the Adios Pro since version 1, since I wore through the lateral heel of that outsole in less than 100 miles. You often say that you tend to burn through outsoles quickly too, so I wonder what your impression will be of the likely durability of this shoe once you've run in it more. Also, in a future video please compare it to the Puma Deviate Elite 3.

[@TheRunTesters]

Too early to really say on the outsole from a durability perspective, only 10 or so miles into testing but will factor that into the review.

[@Ferron89]

Adidas moved to using cpu for the outsole, the same material Chinese brands have been using since at least 2019. It's lightweight, has excellent grip and last pretty much forever. It's somewhat noisy and not great on trail roads. I find it much better than rubber outsoles.

[@jamesmidgley7450]

Are these going to be on the adidas website?

[@TheValonquar]

Not a single Adizero shoe fits me well. Cant they make them a bit wider lol.

[@Thomlabe]

Have you tried the pro 3s? I have freakishly wide feet and they just fit me.

[@TheValonquar]

@@Thomlabe arch poke is the main problem for me

[@nickgayle8032]

When will they be available to buy?

[@neemiascruz9519]

Jan 2025

[@romrich]

9/29/2024

[@TheRunTesters]

Jan 2025

[@legendsofmyself]

Oh my days... I probably can't wait then 😢. Maybe another PRO 3 especially discounted

[@row33]

My new daily trainer.

[@reigaterobot4965]

You just wouldn't choose this over the Metaspeed Sky Paris imo

[@jeroen1989]

Why?

[@jonglanfield9446]

I would. Cheers for your assumption though

[@fergusdenoon1255]

I don't think you speak for everyone...

[@yianpap6093]

I would just because it looks way cooler (and of course it's of comparable performance).

[@jeroen1989]

@reigaterobot4965 propably more stable heel, roomier fit, softer - yet springy- ride and more adaptable carbon set up due to the rods. Also maybe a better outsole and better longevity (based on v3)

[@akaemzett]

I only use the adios for 5k races and weekly intervals, so I didn't have put enough km on it to get a new one.

[@MikeMeisner]

Oh yes🎉 the best is back

[@FtL_CS]

The 3 stripes look too damn big! Wish they kept the branding language the way they had it in the Pro 3s!

[@Cryptopaja]

Thanks as always 👍🚀

[@macibobam]

Less stable than pro 3😢 that would be a No from me with slight pronation. Loved the pro 2 but that was one unstable shoe and caused lots of pain in the end.

[@hahaheslop]

Can't wait for this! 3 months seems a long time to wait 🙁

[@timtrenholm3698]

So it's probably still a heel lift nightmare.....great...glad for those people that this design works for.

[@TheRunTesters]

Haven't experienced any in runs so far. But that might just be it works for me. But will keep this in mind for the longer run tests. Will try and do a marathon distance to test that heel package more extensively.

[@timtrenholm3698]

@@TheRunTesters It's a very personalized thing. But I appreciate the follow-up!

[@Otis220]

Great review! I've had the same heel lift issue with the AP3 in both US 12.0 & 11.5. I think the heel is the same. I do love the AP3 but I've worn thicker socks and put a tongue pad in so I can really lock down without lace bite. Another thing I really like about the AP3 was the roomy toe box. I don't have wide toes but really like the feel of having toes splay (Endorphin Elite 1). The toe box definitely looks narrower on the AP4? Appreciate any feedback!

[@Boulevardfree]

Never worn a shoe that locked my heel in better and more effortlessly, even without lacing up. I think most people bought this shoe a size to large. So did I at first because I mistook the snug fit of my correct, smaller size for the shoe being too small and sized up (i.e. normal TTS).

[@trevorhillier4041]

Can't wait, it say January 25 is that right ?

[@romrich]

Can’t wait for scalpers to hike the price up :)

[@thomasglaser291]

I go with my metaspeed sky paris ❤

[@TheRunTesters]

An excellent shoe, sir.

[@reigaterobot4965]

Clearly a better shoe all round 👍

[@Nyelands]

@@reigaterobot4965 Did you try the AP4?

[@אודיצברי]

Dear kieran, how was it in Berlin?

[@JOSHURUN]

Love it! I’ll buy for sure! Btw what it’s the camera for the running shoot ?

[@TheRunTesters]

I use the InstaGO 3

[@theandroids]

I'm going to stock up on pro 3... Doesn't look as nice as the pro 3. Wonder if it will be that much better overall...

[@theghostofpcs2391]

It's an interesting one. The Pro 4 definitely seems to be an upgrade, but that doesn't mean it won't be divisive... A lot of people love the Pro 3 because it has that stable, comfortable and laid back character, which is why some use it as a daily trainer.

[@theandroids]

@@theghostofpcs2391 people were saying the same about the X2 and the X1 ended up being better IMO. Thats why I'm going to stock up. People started selling their X2. All they had to do was widen the base of the X1. Personally I think all they had to do with the pro 4 was fix the upper of the pro 3. But we will see, everyone is different after all.

[@ACs946]

The wobbly heel reminds me of how I felt about the NB Elite V3. It has lovely foam, but it is unstable, and I can't imagine all the supporting ligaments lasting a long effort. Perhaps a comparison in the future? By the way, I ended up with the Pro 4 and am very happy so far.

[@Ghimlioak]

Do you think the V3 is still a good shoe or definitively not ?

[@theghostofpcs2391]

Definitely! The upper is indeed a bit fussy, but it's pretty perfect otherwise.

[@TheRunTesters]

V3 is a good shoe if you can get on with the uppers.

[@Tommygimbal]

@@TheRunTesterswhats the matter with its upper if i may ask?

[@Feanaro5503]

Does the heel flap come down?

[@TheRunTesters]

Does it fold down? Yes.

[@derekpugh5457]

Is there an official release date for the uk yet please ? Thanks

[@macibobam]

1st Jan 2025 according to Adidas website 😢

[@derekpugh5457]

@@macibobam gives me time to save up or ask for Christmas 👍….ready for a spring marathon.

[@theghostofpcs2391]

Looking forward to see how the Pro 4 holds up on soaking wet roads. A lot of my shoes get sidelined during the wet months (which is basically 6 months), because of insufficient traction.

[@TheRunTesters]

I did some miles in wet-ish conditions. Nothing immediately troubling but I wasn't running anything too twisty. Will be sure to get into this for the review. And looks like we're not going to be short of wet roads for that.

[@redochua]

It's a downgrade on the looks department. Those stripes are hideous. Pass.

[@kylestephens9593]

so 200grams for a his size, easily 215grams+ for the most common sizes 9.5 and 10. not impressed tbh. i thought they will bring some of the lightweight tech from the evo?

[@fergusdenoon1255]

they obviously did, the "lightweight tech" you're talking about in the EVO, is the complete lack of an outsole, so I really doubt you'd be happy with them taking that "tech" to the pro 4.

[@jackjill2010]

Agreed. In terms of weight it is disappointing given it has taken so long to release. They even dropped the heel stack to 39mm to make it lighter than v3.

[@videoforum4047]

@@jackjill2010 To remind: Runrepeat measured the stack height of Adios pro 3 in a lab. Claimed forefoot: 33m, actual 29.8 mm, Claimed heel: 39,5, actual 37,8mm Claimed drop: 6,5mm, actual 8mm

[@theghostofpcs2391]

They did use a lightweight version of lightstrike pro at the bottom. It was explained in the video from Running warehouse with Believe in the run.

[@kenrickhk]

It's 20 grams lighter than version 3

[@grobbosixtyone]

Running shoes are looking more and more ridiculous

[@ianrevill7937]

I'm sorry, I stopped watching at £220. Prices are silly. A TYRE FOR MY CAR COSTS £154

[@bennipollner5240]

Yes, it IS getting insane

[@thebullfighter6733]

Not finding anything on the market these days for much less than these unfortunately. Prices are trending much higher than this with a number of different brands. Cough cough pro evo 1 and alphalfy.

[@aliasgharkhoyee9501]

Adidas is one of the few brands that's not raising their prices. Just as well, they're expensive enough.

[@adamtherunner92]

@@thebullfighter6733Puma Deviate Elite 3, and its IMO the best racer

[@Max-jt5jz]

Try the velocity nitro 2, it's £50

[@idawson998]

Worst looking shoes ever

[@Njabuloseh]

My God, it looks awful.

[@fergusdenoon1255]

I think HOKA have copywritten that trademark.