Adult TONGUE TIE RELEASE Update // What happened??

Hey everyone, it's been a year since I got my tongue tie revised as an adult through a frenectomy procedure, and let me tell you, it's been quite the journey! In this video, I'm going to give you all an update on my experience with the tongue tie release procedure, including the pros and cons of getting an adult tongue tie revision.
While I'm really happy that I got my tongue tie revised through a frenectomy procedure, there are definitely some long-term drawbacks to consider, but on the flip side, there are also some great benefits to getting the tongue tie release surgery done as an adult. So, if you're thinking about getting an adult tongue tie revision or wondering about the long term benefits and risks of a tongue tie release procedure, you'll definitely want to watch this video.
Throughout this video, I'll be sharing my tongue tie revision story, discussing the adult tongue tie release experience, and giving you all the details that you won't hear from your tongue tie doctor. So, if you're curious about the tongue tie diagnosis, treatment, symptoms, complications, surgery recovery, exercises, or anything else related to a tongue tie, you won't want to miss this video! Let's dive right in and talk about the pros and cons of the tongue tie release procedure!
**If you missed part 1 and part 2:
➤ Infant TONGUE TIE... • Infant TONGUE TIE RELE...
Part 1 is about our infant tongue tie release experience and why we chose to do tongue tie surgery on our newborns. It also explains why I wanted to do tongue tie revision surgery myself: my tongue tie is too tight! In part 1 I addressed why I was considering an adult tongue-tie release procedure, what the tongue tie procedure looks like for an adult, and symptoms of adult tongue tie. Is it worth it to release an adult tongue tie? Should I release my adult tongue tie? I really wasn't sure at first, but you can follow along with my story to find out why I chose revision!
➤ Adult TONGUE TIE RELEASE Experience... • Adult TONGUE TIE RELEA...
Part 2 is all about my tongue tie surgery experience ... the step-by-step story of my adult tongue tie release evaluation and procedure. And how after doing some initial research and consulting with trusted medical professionals, I decided to get my adult tongue tie released. I was especially encouraged after my experience with baby tongue tie releases for my two children, because the healing process for infant tongue tie release wasn't bad (although, of course, it will be a little harder as an adult).
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MORE JEN:
➤ Daily Life: mommingwithmigraine
➤ Support: PATREON.com/mommingwithmigraine
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SOME PREVIOUS VIDEOS…
➤ Dr. Phil Show - Medical Gaslighting: • I Went On DR. PHIL! //...
➤ A POTS Episode Explained: • Play-by-Play of a POTS...
➤ Vestibular Therapy: • EXERCISES FOR VERTIGO ...
➤ Ginger for Migraine Relief: • NATURAL MIGRAINE REMED...
➤ My Food Triggers: • FOODS I AVOID FOR MIGR...
➤ Nausea Relief: • NAUSEA & Morning Sickn...
➤ Migraine Life Modifications: • Day-to-Day LIFE MODIFI...
➤ Harry Potter Sorting (Jen vs Migraine Jen): • Harry Potter House Qui...
➤ Migraine Hacks (Migraine Jen Vlog): • MIGRAINE VLOG // Life ...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NOTE: Though I talk about medical topics, nothing on my channel is meant as medical advice (for all statements, past or future). I am a patient sharing my personal experiences, but I am not a doctor nor am I medically trained. My channel is for entertainment and community only.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DISCLAIMER: Links included in this description might be affiliate links. If you purchase a product or service with the links that I provide I may receive a small commission. There is no additional charge to you! Thank you for supporting Momming with Migraine so I can continue to provide you with free content each week!
Content ID Code
19WBQGYXRURS4XJ8
VNHJPGV0XSWBV5TF

[@MommingwithMigraine]

Where are my tongue-tied adults at? To revise or not to revise... that is the question. PS - I picked a myofunctional therapist who know how to address the issues I mentioned in the video. BETTER YET - she's virtual! If her exercises help me, I'll *actually* be able to recommend her to you. Stay tuned, friends.

[@sarahrose5772]

Here

[@roberthull959]

So i just youtubed this. I'm way older. But i used to get scolded from my mother cause of my speech. Said i talk with marbles in my mouth. I just found out im tongue tied. Been always told i sound like i have a accent. To make a Long story short, i have every issue you had xs ten! Still unsure, if its worth it or no?

[@MommingwithMigraine]

@@roberthull959 I'm still so happy I did it!!

[@fcancho]

I received a frenectomy yesterday morning. There is a difference from before. Before, my tongue could not even touch under my lip. Now, I can almost touch my chin. The dentist told me that after a week, I should begin exercises for my tongue, and I will be more flexible with my tongue. I was hoping I could touch my nose, but even when I begin exercise next week I doubt I'll be able to touch my nose with my tongue. I hope the soreness and pain goes away after a week.

[@AngelNote1]

Severe tongue tie. Tongue can only go onto lips and not out. I have migraine, tight neck and shoulders, which also can add to brain fog and vision issues. Sleep apnea. Digestive issues from how I eat. Definitely get more air when I eat and drink.

[@Ivorymoana]

Thanks so much for posting this video. I’m a retired Lactation Consultant. Your video explains why it’s so important to get infant tongue ties revised. The data shows a very small percentage of infants with tongue ties. At least 90% of the referrals I got for problems with breastfeeding were related to tongue ties. It so easy to remedy on an infant. When done as an adult, you explain the complications that may occur. I wish you all the best in adjusting to your tongue tie revision. 😅

[@Ivorymoana]

I also have sleep apnea and trouble swallowing.

[@CRAIGBCRAIGB]

Hi! I had my tongue tie release done 11/3/23. I'm 53 and had been looking into this for years. About 7 years ago, I made an appointment with an oral surgeon. When I came in, he confirmed why I was there and said without knowing me, you need to consult with your dentist since I had not done that prior before he would do the procedure. There was so much wisdom in that statement. Fast forward to 2023, when a new dentist recommended I see a myofunctional therapist. She took measurements of my mouth to determine if a tongue tie release would not cause further issues. Fortunately, I passed there and I proceeded 5 weeks ago with exercises to prepare my tongue for the release. I'm so glad I passed because my tongue tie was severe. Again, I was fortunate in that the specialist who did the release had been trained by the best in the U.S. I have more exercises to do in the coming weeks but already, I noticed more movement in my neck. I shall see if it's easier to take pills, if my obstructive sleep apnea lessons and if my speech gets better. As Jen pointed out, have measurements of your mouth taken by a Myofunctional Therapist to make sure your tongue will fit nicely between your teeth and if it passes, start exercises before the release.....Great video Jen!!!!

[@Ivorymoana]

You are fortunate that you got great advice from your dentist and you were able to prepare for the frenulectomy. Where do you live? I’m curious. Unfortunately, what happened in your case is rare.

[@chromosome2359]

What exercises did you do?

[@MH-yh8rz]

Thank you so much for your honesty in pointing out the cons. You helped me realize the potential issues with the procedure that I want to avoid, and I will be forever grateful!!!

[@MommingwithMigraine]

You are so welcome! Were you able to come up with any good ideas? I'm interested!

[@iwillstom]

Went to a doctor to be evaluated for Botox for TMJ pain and found out I have tongue ties. Had even seen multiple specialists in the past and worn appliances to properly align the jaw/night guards etc. None ever mentioned a tongue tie as the possible cause of my chronic pain. As I understand it there is basically no clinical research studying the connection between tongue ties and all these other symptoms so it’s not taught in medical school. I’m pretty angry that I have basically lived at the doctor for a congenital condition my entire life but this was overlooked, after having orthodontia multiple times and chronic pain for decades.

[@Innateworth]

Dang I feel you. I just discovered yesterday - at 31 yrs old - that I have a tongue tie after going to a dentist for my interest in the ALF device to help my breathing and TMJ. She examined me and said "oh you're tongue tied". I've never been told that in my life... after spending 10 years in childhood with retainers for an overbite, braces twice, wisdom teeth surgery, speech therapy for speech impairment... None of them noticed I had a tongue tie??! I feel angry as well. I wish it would've gotten removed a looong time ago. Grrrr

[@iwillstom]

@@Innateworth I understand that doctors who completed med school years ago weren’t taught this stuff because the research science behind all the various problems that manifest from it didn’t exist at the time. But my goodness, it’s not like tongue ties themselves are a new phenomenon. Even though mine didn’t affect speech, I still would have expected it to at least be mentioned by a dentist or noted in a chart somewhere. I guess it all depends on level of severity and if it affects breast feeding. I’m sure back in the dark ages when I was born they only bothered to do anything about it if there were feeding issues.

[@Innateworth]

@@iwillstom ah so they potentially were not taught to check for a tongue tie. I bet a lactation consultant would know to check, but I don't believe I had trouble breastfeeding. That helps me have some understanding. I just feel like I've had a large epiphany by discovering a tie I was born with that makes sense of the issues I'm dealing with for years. I honestly had never heard of a tongue or lip tie since yesterday. I cried last night having an "if only I knew sooner" story in my mind. Processing the emotions 😅 Now I'm just eager to get it corrected finally and have relief

[@iwillstom]

@@InnateworthThe dentist I saw last week said 5 years ago she would have sent me home with Botox and a mouth guard. Now, she knows that Botox is just a bandaid for the larger problem in my case. So I think what is new is the understanding that tongue ties can affect much more than just speech and breast feeding. A smaller upper palate and mandible/overbite triggering TMJ pain and migraines, the need for orthodontia, improper tongue posture and swallowing, a smaller airway triggering sleep apnea and the body’s autonomic nervous system which heightens stress, on and on. While checking for tongue ties should have always been standard, I think it’s been overlooked often because doctors didn’t realize the scope of the lifelong effects even in mild to moderate cases.

[@docop341]

I feel you. I’m angry at all of the dentists, orthos and chiropractors I’ve seen for not checking for this when I clearly have had jaw face and neck tension. I’ve suffered for more years than most people watching this and I’m just really mad. Getting revised in 2 weeks.

[@MommingwithMigraine]

This comment is the like button for my frenulum joke

[@kaitlynesse]

I just had a consultation with a myofunctional therapist yesterday and she diagnosed with a grade 3 tongue tie. I have forward head posture, get migraines, experience tight neck/shoulders/traps, and have a hard time breathing through my nose. You video was the first one that came up searching for "frenectomy results"! This is a really helpful video - thank you for sharing!! I feel like you experienced a lot of the stuff I'm also experiencing. I also have a more narrow upper palate. So I'm hoping that the myofunctional therapy helps with that before and after the frenectomy.

[@LedgerAndLace]

"Massage Therapist" is the correct term. Masseuse is more archaic. A masseuse is generally associated with a massage parlor, and wouldn't know her cranium from her acetabulum. At least, that was my Massage Therapy training here on the East coast. Myofascial release is a technique that works with the fascia, but I'm intrigued to learn more about Myofunctional Therapy!

[@gracemwiruki2942]

Wow, thank you for this informative video. My tongue tie was supposed to be fixed in 2 weeks but now I have to rethink about that. I was not given any information as you provided. I pray that everything work out well for you. Thank you and thanks everyone for sharing your experiences. It did help me a lot. Thanks again.

[@mykolapopyk2545]

It's been 4 months, how did everything go?

[@gloriahallelujah1118]

Did you do it?

[@cavlizzy]

The best kind of doctor to fix a tongue tie is either a prosthodontist or an oral surgeon. They tell you everything & follow up! (I’m a dental hygienist)

[@cavlizzy]

I would personally choose a prosthodontist for this. They specialize in mandibular joint issues, sleep, TMJ, etc.. as well as implants, facial reconstruction & much more. Very highly trained!

[@SnowySpiritRuby]

@@cavlizzy Any tips for finding a good one?

[@cavlizzy]

@@SnowySpiritRuby Since a prosthodontist has 3 more years of medical/school training past his DDS degree… it’s hard to find a bad one. (That’s a total of 11 years in school. 4 years for Bachelor degree, 4 years to become a DDS then the additional 3 years to become a prosthodontist) Also, each dental school ONLY takes 1-2 people a year into this program! So you must be at the TOP of your class to even be considered. *But I would start by asking your dentist who they recommend. Or you can contact your states dental licensing board to ask &/or ask who is in good standing in your area. (Also, there are only 66 dental schools in the US, and not all train for this specialty. So the numbers per year are low to gain this specialty)

[@SnowySpiritRuby]

@@cavlizzy Awesome. Thanks!

[@jcortez8281]

I went to a periodontist! They were amazing 🤩

[@Jen-zz7nv]

"Oh no, my brain leaked"...😂 now thats not something you hear everyday.

[@kellianne2306]

Haha. But it’s something some of us say almost daily. 😂

[@MommingwithMigraine]

We hear it every day around here 😂

[@treefrog1018]

As someone with a speech impediment, I totally hear you on the slight shift in teeth changing your speech. I had braces twice as a kid. About 10 years ago, I forgot to wear to retainer for like, a year, which shifted my teeth. They have been shifting a we bit ever since. For the last few years, I have noticed my speech impediment is becoming more prominent. Hopefully I can shell money out for moving my teeth around again as I needed. For now, I can eat, floss, and say most words so we'll see how things go from here.

[@MommingwithMigraine]

That's interesting, frog! Myofunctional therapy video coming soon might interest you because it can help with those issues. Maybe we can both learn how to get pushed in the right direction

[@LillianMcDermottRadioShow]

I am 60 years old, and was told that I had a tongue tie. Before anything gets done, my dentist asked me to get an evaluation. I just got off the phone with Myofunctional therapist... and started doing my research. (this is how I found your video.) I still need my evaluation, and because of your video, I can decide if this procedure is right for me. Thank you for sharing your journey. It was very helpful to me.

[@MommingwithMigraine]

💜💜💜 I'm so so so glad I could help! Good luck on your journey.

[@LillianMcDermottRadioShow]

Thank You! 💜

[@julieshrock4392]

I'm so glad you said something. I have a pretty big tongue tie that I've know about for years. I had the overbite, overcrowding and all that stuff worked on by an orthodontist as a kid no one ever cared about tongue ties or mentioned them back then. I also.deal with tension and what not. It was offered to be released by my dentist recently and I immediately said no knowing I wouldn't be able to ever go back tomwhat I've spent the last 37 years being used to having. My fears are everything you said for cons. I'm not sure I'll ever get it done honestly. If I do I would definitely need that therapy you are talking about. However I'm not sure with those cons. I'd have to give it several years of thought 😂. Glad you are addressing the cons now though!

[@the_immortal_999]

I also have tongue tie with overcrowded teeths and I also have asymmetric face.. Where to go for the treatment? And hows your condition now?

[@mariejiminez1733]

Hi everyone on 37th and I just have my tongue tied release surgery about 3 weeks ago and I already can see the difference in my speech the way I've eaten and also my sleep is better as well I am in the process of waiting to get Invisalign so that way I can have the smile to match my personality

[@byroncrigler1221]

WoW he did you wrong. I started my tongue tie exercises in February 2024. Had five video therapy sessions about 2 weeks apart. Between sessions, I was practicing the tongue stretches and exercises. Then, my therapist approved me to get the tongue released when i was ready. Completed the tongue release April 9, 2024. I was giving post tongue relaese stretches. It is April 12, 2024 and I am on the road to recovery! I am sorry to hear that he didn't have you work with a therapist 1st.

[@Grace-lh2eu]

How are you feeling now? I hope you’re doing great!

[@byroncrigler1221]

@Grace-lh2eu Tip-Top. But I have to see a chiropractor, which I didn't mention at first. My wife told me to, but I just went to the Speech Therapist (Which does therapy via videoconference). The chiropractic sessions will reveal what is next for me. Maybe lasering out more of the tongue tie? We will see. But my sleep has increased so far from 3-4:30 hours to 6-9:30 hours a day. My 2 & 5 year olds are both seeing the chiropractor, then they will start therapy with the speech therapist to prep for their tongue release. I recommend getting someone who will not release the tie without a therapist's approval. That way, you have more than one set of eyes on your progress. It sounds like a lot, but it seems to be worth it so far.

[@Grace-lh2eu]

@@byroncrigler1221this is so helpful - thank you!

[@byroncrigler1221]

@@Grace-lh2eu Yep

[@sreeramya6812]

Pre and post tongue myofunctional therapy is a must, and mandatory before getting a release. Pre myofunctional exercises increases the strength of the muscle and also prepares for the release for less tear. Post exercises are must after 24 hrs of the procedure. So that there is no reattachment. The wound area should heal slow as required. Also cranio sacral therapy/ Rmt massage is must one week pre and post op for the ideal realease of the muscle tension of head ,neck and shoulder.

[@AbrahamLure]

Oh my god, I never knew you can even MOVE the back of your tongue!!! Getting my frenulum cut this Saturday

[@fam5830]

How did the procedure go for you?

[@wethepeople8280]

How did it go?

[@amalgam3959]

How did it go?

[@GenieBright]

Surgeons or dentists who perform this procedure are NOT supposed to do this without the client having been prepared with specific stretches for weeks in advance and even body work in some cases. And after care is critical in healing correctly. If they don’t know this, they are not educated in the matter and therefore should not be doing these procedures. It’s brutal.

[@crys5684]

I didn't realize other people could make the back of their tongue toich the roof of their mouth. I thought the terror of drowning at the dentist was just something i was dealing with incorrectly 😂

[@kaylinfroehlich3293]

Went to the same dentist as a kid and was told at 32 that I'm tongue-tied. Instead, as a child, I was sent to an orthodontist for an overbite. My upper jaw is narrow, I've lived with stress and clenching in my jaw and tension in my head, neck, and shoulders. My face has disharmony and swelling from knots throughout my masseter that I'm slowly massaging away. I'm planning on getting a release now but worried about the headgear I had as a child to move my top teeth back. I wish my dentist had done a release when I saw him at the age of 9 and not 33!

[@atharvapisal5149]

I had it today, currently my tongue is living in HELL!!!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@ColinTrovillion]

I am 34 and I learned this yesterday, it explains problems. I’ve been complaining about my entire life.

[@bmwrking]

​@@atharvapisal5149 is your speech improve? Especially in articulating R sound

[@Grace-lh2eu]

@@atharvapisal5149How bad was recovery? Are you still glad you got your tongue tie released?

[@mexdrago3009]

The swallow part I never thought of. I often get small bits of food that doesn't go down without a drink.

[@Lauren-vj6mc]

I have a tongue tie, but dentists and even oral medicine keep telling me nah it’s fine. My tongue is also too big for my mouth, it rests between my teeth forcing my jaw open so as to not be constantly biting my tongue. From my own research, if I had a top pallet expander as a teen this would have helped. I did have an orthodontist tell me that jaw surgery and braces would help that and the jaw pain, but oral medicine docs say nope that won’t fix the pain. My inner gums are receding probably from my tongue pushing on them constantly. I’ve given up in my 30s, probably just have to deal with this forever. In my brain, fix my tongue tie which should help the pain, then reassess the surgery option but nah no one will listen. Honestly no one even listens when I say my tongue is too big for my mouth

[@MommingwithMigraine]

Sorry 😞 I can relate to the too-big tongue problem... revision made my tongue more wide! have you looked into fascial therapy/ myofunctional? Might help. Best of luck!

[@harpsandstars]

Read the book The ALF Approach. There is hope!

[@SamanthaSweetAnne]

Oversized tongues are a b12 and folate deficiency. It has to be folate not poisonous folic acid and the methylation b12 not the cynobalam.

[@SnowySpiritRuby]

Thank you so much for the update. Super helpful for those of us considering it. Any thoughts on mechanical/scalpel vs. laser? I know the girls had theirs done by laser and that it required special tongue exercises to keep it from reattaching, but you said you didn't have to do them because you had yours done the other way.

[@StalePhish]

Thanks for this! I hadn't really thought much about my tongue tie in years until a doctor happened to mention it to me yesterday while I was getting my mouth swabbed and couldn't move my tongue much. I've definitely been made fun of throughout my life for not being able to stick my tongue out further than my lips! It's fascinating hearing your story and how I had never realized I couldn't make a good seal against the top of my mouth while swallowing water or cleaning my back teeth until I was trying it while watching the video. Definitely something that's on my radar now

[@BB25_25]

I had a type 3 posterior tongue tie, and could always touch the tip of my nose. Just got it cut three days ago with some other airway operations under GE, so difficult to see any improvement yet.. but I definitely feel tension around my neck, shoulders, hips and joints seem gone, and my posture feels better.

[@LaCafedora]

I believe that I was born tongue-tied, but it was revised when I was too young to remember. I was also circumsized when I was minutes old, so it may have been done at that time. Today my tongue sits comfortably in my mouth, but does noticeably press its sides against my teeth, all of my teeth. I have examined my tongue shape, and it seems to have moulded itself to the contours of that interface. If I relax my jaw, the very edges of the tongue slip gently into the space between upper and lower teeth, but when I close the jaw, it feels natural to retract the tongue just enough to extricate it from the chomp. Still, I do occasionally bite it. Regarding extending my tongue upwards, that does uncomfortably strain the remaining frenulum, and I am many years healed. Also, extending my tongue out of my mouth presses the frenulum into the gap of my lower front teeth, that feels uncomfortable. Here's something weird, though. At some point, I taught myself to press my tongue to my palate and close my lips, then draw a small breath out of my mouth to create a weak vacuum that seals my mouth shut with air pressure. I did this to avoid drooling while I sleep, and it is 100% effective. BUT I eventually realized (after many years of sleeping this way) that while my jaw muscles are relaxed this way, my tongue muscle is not, and that - combined with the internal negative pressure inside my mouth - can cause me headaches. I do this maneuver all the time now, even while I am awake, and it encourages me to grind my teeth. It is a very difficult habit to break. I don't know if any of that is useful to you, but I appreciate your data collection efforts!

[@LeDollDonna]

Oh my goddd this explains some of my problems, i did not have the surgery BUT i REALLY REALLY ripped my frenulum when i was a kid, i have the same issues as you. it's not just a small tear either, it's basically like i got the surgery. Funny because i did have issues associated with tongue tie before i ripped it by accident. The negative pressure thing i also do, and i think it has caused me a lot of problems like i have intense pain in the back of my head/lower neck when i swallow, it feels like a bunch of strain is there and it's been like this for almost a year now. I accidentally do this negative pressure trick just by closing my mouth.

[@fayedits5054]

I think the negative pressure trick you guys may be talking about is mewing which is the correct tongue posture you should look into

[@LeDollDonna]

@@fayedits5054 I do mew, but mewing did a lot of damage to me as i have this problem that OP mentioned, it like caused the air to start shifting my hyoid bone and it now it shifts sooo much. I am slowly healing. this caused many problems for me though, my subvocalizations are louder, just many issues. Mewing is good if done right, i mewed right but did wrong things, did it too much and too hard. The air thing was like an annoying tick that came with mewing so i would do it a lot and just messed myself up.

[@fayedits5054]

@@LeDollDonna oh wow okay so i am curious because i recently started mewing and i have never been able to breathe through my nose until i mewed. Do you think you were pressing too hard in a specific part of your mouth or do you do the tongue suction and relaxing like what i have seen from Dr. Mews videos? Also do you practice correct swallowing with your tongue (as i see a lot of people recommend but also Dr. Mew with mewing) where you swallow and make sure your tongue is swallowing to the roof of your mouth instead of swallowing with your cheeks.

[@LeDollDonna]

@@fayedits5054 Yes i believed pressed too hard, and had wayyy too much suction in my mouth, thanks to the way my tongue is it was impossible to not have a lot of suction. I did not mess my self the first time i did it, but i was able to basically force my mouth to change shape really fast my having a lot of suction and pressure. It was equal pressure throughout my tongue tongue basically, i was and still am able to crack my hard palate open (or make a split) By accident, which is something that i've always been able to, but that with mewing and the amount of suction my mouth created probably shifted things too much. The main problem feels like it is my trachea or nasal cavity. There's this kinda whistling when i am thinking.

[@Stoudy2]

Omg the swallowing thing could also lead to less gastro problems leading to less overactive gas by not swallowing extra air anymore.

[@JulianneNA]

They’re going to correct my advanced tongue tie next week, and I think now I’m going to refuse it. I don’t have complications from my tie nor is it causing quality of life issues. That and considering I’ve never been told anything about prep exercises, I don’t think I want to allow it.

[@kaylinfroehlich3293]

Just a heads up for everyone. Tie tie can result in a narrow palate leading to breathing and tmj issues in adults. Your tongue wasn't up against the top of your mouth during developmental years, so you didn't grow the bone. 99/100 orthos are afraid to do anything to help with this. If you're now in a position where you have sleep apnea, tmj, narrow smile, crowding, etc, do a consult with Dr. Ilya Lipkin. I was referred to him by another ortho and traveled 4 hours to see him.

[@eryn5826]

Oral surgeons don't usually do follow ups not that I've ever experienced. Ive always followed up with the dentist. Before the peocedure they gave me a paper to sign with all risks and possoble outcomes which said that the procedure might not be successful at all.

[@LeaPramstrahler]

Regarding your tongue being "too big for your uper jaw" I recommend looking into mewing and inter oral face oulling. Basically how to expand your upper jaw naturally.

[@LeaPramstrahler]

*face pulling

[@promisedjubileedaniels]

That's what I was going to say! Try practicing the mewing exercise!

[@bridgetbean79]

Girrrrrrrl I wish I could have a long convo with you about jaws/tongues. My jaw journey is long, 20 years at this point. I only JUST learned I have a tongue tie yesterday. I can’t believe that, after all the specialists I’ve seen and issues I’ve had. I’d love to chat with you more about your history and experience 😂 My new-to-me Dr has a plan I might go for. I’m shy with “permanent” changes with my teeth and jaw because I have a great smile and great teeth, BUT what he’s proposing makes sense. Sleep study, then Invisalign to widen my smile. He says palates are fine but the smile is narrow on the and my tongue can’t fit, which he feels he could make fit but the widened smile plus tongue tie release. The release isn’t a sure thing in his plan. He wants me to start myo therapy halfway through wearing trays, then evaluate if I should get released. I know a release can’t be undone but if trays don’t work I imagine I can do something to put my teeth back like they always were… I’m on IG if you feel like reaching out. Always down for a talk about the mouth - lord knows my husband is tired of me talking about it 😅

[@frozenskyhomestead3723]

You should look into a pallet expander to kickstart the myo functional therapy

[@MommingwithMigraine]

I'm on a wait list!!

[@that.sleep.dentist]

A tongue tie release should ALWAYS be preceded by, and followed up with, Myofunctional therapy. Also, if there isn’t enough room in your mouth then when you free it up, where’s it going to go? Sometimes it falls farther back into the airway at night and your breathing/apnea gets worse. And during waking hours you may find yourself “splinting” your tongue (holding it between your teeth) or pushing forward, because it’s trying to escape confinement. So you might have done better with additional expansion before the release. It’s wide enough when your tongue can suction without overflowing onto the teeth (you showed how much yours overflows). Myofunctional therapy will help improve tone, coordination and range of motion. Sometimes it will even reveal that the release was incomplete or that scarring has taken away some of the benefits. You’d get less scarring if you were doing myo through the whole process. So the initial surgery is called a “release”. And if it needs to be done again to correct problems, that’s what a “revision” is.

[@iwillstom]

I’ve been working with a myo and she’s done measurements and said I have a very narrow palate. I’ve mentioned numerous times that my tongue feels too big for my palate but she’s never said anything about expansion or the tongue not having enough room after a release. Now my release is scheduled for tomorrow and I’m panicking a bit.

[@sarahrose5772]

Your face has changed a lot! You look great '

[@MommingwithMigraine]

Yes! Thank you!

[@sarahrose5772]

@@MommingwithMigraine can’t wait to get mine done.

[@teethree141]

omg! they always make you do myo to prep you for a tongue tie release. Im so sorry for that experience. hope everything is ok now!

[@gypsy5269]

Thank you for this video. I am scared and excited to get the procedure done. I also suffer from migraines and am Hoping for my shoulders to relax also. You cracking me up when you were talking about tripping over your tongue abd sounds like I will probably be expecting much of th same. Surgery Dec 12, 2023.

[@kevinralston7736]

Any update?

[@gypsy5269]

@@kevinralston7736 Yes. Thank you for asking . Shoulder tension has eased a bit. I have wonderful suction now to the roof of my mouth and I can take deep breaths exclusively through my nose.

[@LaCafedora]

Obsevation for you, Jen: until about 60 seconds into this video, your voice sounded distinctly less nasal. As of this comment, I have not actually watched the entire video because I paused to write this and didn't want to forget. Could this be relevant data? Your voice is typically very high, so this immediately struck me. Do you notice your pitch change?

[@MommingwithMigraine]

I have a lot of sinus problems with all this so.. yes? I do think my voice changes a lot and the way I move my mouth to talk changes too. Inconsistent airway.

[@erikavaleries]

Mine kind of reattached but it helped with breathing a bit. I can't reach my nose, though. I started using a thin mouthguard to keep my mouth closed. Just a boil & bite from oral b

[@KassiReyes]

Lactation Consultant and Migraine Sufferer here. Did it help with your Migraines? Also, Who was the Myofunctional Therapist you saw?

[@sabi8381]

My daughter just had a baby about two weeks ago and her baby has an upper and lower tong tie. She's thinking about having the procedure done to her baby and I am so scared about it. What do you recommend? Do you think it is too early to do it?

[@MommingwithMigraine]

I have a video about my babies releases... did you see it? I'm glad I got them revised. My younger was successfully breastfed (still going at 2+) but older daughter who was revised later had trouble feeding early.

[@sabi8381]

@@MommingwithMigraine I will watch it, thank you so much for all your information.

[@kaylaboland637]

Re: the con about your tongue being too wide for your palate, my tongue gets irritated from my upper teeth too but I've never had a tongue tie or revision.

[@erintraylor6794]

Hi! What solution have you found for your front teeth feeling crammed now? My lower jaw has also come forward a bit and now my teeth are crammed together. I would love to hear your advice!

[@Whatthekell962]

Wonder if a tongue tie can effect thyroid function?

[@laurenminton6133]

Tongue tie can be comorbid with hypermobility which can be comorbid with poor thyroid function. So much interconnection. All the above is found in higher numbers with us neurospicys' too (if your in the ADHD or ASC gang, you might want to do some digging too). Yay for multiple connected dysfunctions that no health professional has volunteered freely to me in person, but did so after I queried it from watching professionals on tiktok😅

[@Innateworth]

Man this is crazy how something seemingly small can have a domino effect on other issues that you think wouldn't be related.

[@bree8550]

Hi very informative video, I was wondering how you are doing now with your results? Does your tongue fit your palate after myo therapies? What worked for you?

[@stephlrideout]

I'm getting mine done tomorrow. Wish me luck!

[@mehdimouss7977]

I got it this morning lol how did it go for you ?

[@stephlrideout]

@@mehdimouss7977 Great! The first few days were uncomfortable but I'm 10 days out now and I'm really glad I did it. Hope healing goes well for you!

[@stephlrideout]

@@msaqlain848 I had a release, with some stretches done in the week leading up but no dedicated therapy. The results have been excellen!

[@ajaydeo2474]

@@stephlrideouthey, did u get the laser or scalper procedure?

[@stephlrideout]

@@ajaydeo2474 it was actually these tiny surgical scissors! Healed great.

[@charlenewilson1024]

I'm 66 and was diagnosed with tongue tied 2 years ago.

[@lenakohl2339]

Have you though about visiting a speech and language therapist? They should know about exercises for the tongue.

[@MommingwithMigraine]

Yes! But airway correction first, then I'll fine tune.

[@laurapower6322]

Been doing myofunctional therapy since June. Frendctomy this week. My ENT works with my Myo and the Myo does my post op care as well. Just did my 3 kids last month. I’m so nervous but I know I’ve done my prep work. I’m worried about my tongue being too big in my mouth. Not sure I want a MARPE or a SARPE so just worried it’ll be just big forever. We shall see. Palate is currently 40 mm. My kids will all be doing palate expansion. My son starts on Thursday. Anything help with the pain post op?

[@brittcampanelli2136]

Do you have less migraines with the tie release?

[@MommingwithMigraine]

Yes! Less tension type headache radiating from my neck as well

[@matthewneedham9091]

Have you looked into MEWING? These methods were suggested to me to do prior to a TT release.

[@eugeniat5460]

Thank you!

[@rogermoore27]

2:30 - that does not sound gross. Sounds amazing

[@bigbang259]

no doctors are checking on that simple procedures. But that's interesting. I have this tie too, im cutting it slowly by myself using a syringe needle. So i do it slowly and about 2mm a time. And i've noticed how my neck is getting less and less forward. I noticed this connection with the neck and shoulders. My tongue now is about 0.5 inches longer than it was at the beginning, now the tie aria is getting thicker compared to as it was closer to the tip of the tongue. But im not at hurry. I noticed that if i cut more than 2mm a day it may be uncomfortable, but 1-2mm a day in the evening goes unnoticeable at all next morning .And slowly but steadily my tongue is getting bigger. And the body has time to slowly adjust. But i did relearn how to pronounce th and r lol i also noticed that when i was using a sharp new needle to make cuts it could bleed a little. But then i dull the needle so it's not that sharp to cut but rather scratch. And scratching is a bit painful to do but it doesn't bleed at all, and it heals much faster and doesn't cause any wound like sensation afterwards when i eat or drink. Im wondering why scratching is so different than cutting even tho it's the same 1-2mm area. i also noticed that in my mouth my low teeth are shifting clockwise a bit, so than low molar on the left is closer to the neck that low molar on the write side. And almost all the frenulum is on the right side of the tongue, it's not symmetrical. Probably the tie tongue somehow effected my teeth. If i release my tongue further, will it shift my jaw or teeth? i don't want them to shift, they are working good as they are now?

[@uuuuu9036]

u did it by urself no way bro💀

[@Mateo.Sutalo]

Bro is tripping 💀

[@uuuuu9036]

@@Mateo.Sutalo its not even that expensive of a procedure 😭🙏

[@matsmu9880]

Hi, I‘m 19 years old and I have always been the one who couldn‘t stretch their tounge far out and after looking at some pictures and descriptions I‘m pretty sure that I‘m tounge tied. I neck for example is also pretty stiff and I always felt like my pronunciation was sometimes odd and the cause for it being my tounge. I also struggle with the thought that it has a bad effect on when I kiss with tounge. Could it be possible that it affects my kissing and in general do you think thata closer follow-up of the tounge tie topic is necessary?

[@2wheeler58]

I find this so mind boggling because my tongue tie situation was identified at birth (1958) and the doctor told my mother that it can be dealt with later if I have a problem with breast or bottle feeding or much later if I cannot speak properly ... well ... I never had a problem with either ... as a matter of fact my speaking was much better than anyone who wasn't tongue tied ... including my 3 siblings ... up until now. This year, I needed to get dentures, and now my mouth feels cramped, and I have a have a whistling lisp, so I am contemplating getting my ankyloglossia snipped.

[@loribrooks7964]

Some believe that if ties are cut early, teeth will likely have less crowding due to the tongue natural resting place at the roof, spreading the palate during growth and development. Moreover, if your tie led to mouth breathing and snoring, it most certainly led to increase risk of tooth decay.

[@Poniella81]

I’m now completely convinced i have a tongue tie and it’s affecting my sleep and swallowing. My lower jaw is too far back and my teeth are so crowded. Ugh. I’m so pain sensitive 😩

[@NIGHTWINGEX]

I think I’ll do this too my throat is so loud when I swallowed and have sleep apnea

[@Lataminoxur]

my dentist literally just found out i had a tongue tie, i am 19 lmao ive been knew for a while though. Im not planning on getting it cut of anything because it doesn't really bother me

[@Innateworth]

I just discovered I had a tongue tie at 31. I thought my mouth was "normal" 😆

[@Innateworth]

Do you not have a speech impairment, TMJ, or breathing restriction? I have those 3 issues but had no idea it's because I was born with a tongue tie

[@michl6688]

This was a really informative video, so thank you! I can’t touch my nose with my tongue, but I can touch my back teeth. 🤔

[@MommingwithMigraine]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Innateworth]

Same

[@RR-wy4lz]

Unrelated, but can you give your thoughts on gadolinium in the setting of MRIs? There has been a lot of push back in recent years on how it might be toxic.

[@mantiscity]

I have trouble saying certain words, and spelling was always hard for me. Now if I was to cur it, it will change dramatically. Not sure what to do.

[@greysonjolliffe8665]

I have hEDS and I had to get a ton of orthodontist work so I've always had a smaller mouth but i also don't know what to do with my mouth and it's almost like tmj. I can lick my septum piercing tho

[@FirstNameLastName000]

I want this done so badly, I hope I can afford it

[@andreas.3893]

I had my tongue tie released I think about 20 years ago, and my dentist never told me any risks, and never recommended any myofunctional exercises or therapy, unfortunately. My tongue tie is less severe than it was, but I still have a tongue tie and the negative symptoms that go along with it, but my tongue is already too big for my mouth! I’m not sure where to begin dealing with this, but thank you for talking about this- I don’t want to fully release my tongue and wind up worsening the problems I already have from a narrow palate.

[@jolenesilipigni3241]

Wow. Can’t believe he did the release without making you do myofunctional therapy first

[@MommingwithMigraine]

wow

[@JulianneNA]

I’m scheduled to do mine next week, and I didn’t even know that was a thing. So I think now I’m going to refuse it.

[@matthewfewings6023]

Question from over the pond in the UK. Did the release help with your headaches and help you sleep better?

[@MommingwithMigraine]

yes

[@matthewfewings6023]

@@MommingwithMigrainethank you 👍. Food for thought then 😊

[@BlackAM]

Do you think getting the tongue tied surgery will decrease tmj problems?

[@MommingwithMigraine]

It helped relax my jaw for sure, but that's just personal experience

[@BlackAM]

@@MommingwithMigraine so how's your jaw now?

[@3n3j0t4]

Does it help with speech if your tongue is slower than your speech?

[@franchangehabits]

I am really worried because I snoring a lot I am a young person and I been snoring since 5 years old ... like no I just appear this information , ....

[@jimmyphamTheFlyingPham117]

Did you have molars removed to fit braces?

[@MommingwithMigraine]

I had 3 impacted wisdom teeth removed surgically. The 4th... missing tooth!!

[@DeklinMiller-f8d]

I am 16 and I have a grade 4 tongue tie and all the doctors i have seen they say it's the worst they have ever seen

[@treefrog1018]

Never had a tongue tie. Can't touch the tip of my nose but I can touch the...bottom of it...the part between my nostrils

[@MommingwithMigraine]

YES that's where I can reach now too!!

[@Canadian_Eh_I]

Did it changer the way you speak at all?

[@bmiller7017]

How are your children doing since their surgery? Did your Dr do their surgery too?

[@MommingwithMigraine]

They're great! We had different Dr's- theirs was ped

[@ThomasBrooks-ye5hq]

Hay I'm tongue tied and I still kept it at 33 now

[@lindsayscott5028]

So would you do the tongue tie release again, if you could go back?

[@MommingwithMigraine]

Yes! But with prep ahead of time

[@energyayogafortraumabyradi1185]

How awful how pornography has destroyed the rights of women, now any woman feel self conscious when talking about swallowing. How awful

[@MommingwithMigraine]

This is about functional swallowing, food and water.

[@DustyRandall]

I ve been wanting to not tounge tied for my whole life im 40 and divorced lol probly time to do this??

[@beaustur]

are you practicing mewing?

[@MommingwithMigraine]

No..... please advise 🙏

[@Facecel_]

@@MommingwithMigraineI’m getting mine cut in 2 weeks , can you place your whole tongue on the roof now? Mewing is basically keeping your whole tongue on the roof and nose breathing , I’ve never mouth breathed but I know since I have a tongue tie I probably do when I sleep and I know it’s the reason why I have no jawline

[@MommingwithMigraine]

@@Facecel_ Yes my tongue seals now =)

[@kennyhallam]

I am 52 years old and had the laser surgery about a month ago. How long did it take for you to get full mobility with your tongue? I am not able to lick my nose with my tongue. Do you still do tongue exercises?

[@Vira8FanClub]

@kennyhallam Can you please tell me Does laser treatment requires stitches and cost of treatment???

[@kennyhallam]

@@Vira8FanClub No stitches and took only about 20 min to do. Not sure of cost because my dentist used my insurance. Honestly not sure if that falls under medical insurance or dental.

[@carom3597]

I was able to fully use my tongue normally after 3 weeks. Everyone is different and it depends how long you’ve been tied and how well your body is able to compensate for it. I’m almost 40. No I cannot lick my nose. Never was able to and still cannot!

[@SamanthaSweetAnne]

All those with Tongue Ties have the MTFHR gene and are autistic. They have a mixture of Asian ancestry. We aren't able to process folic acid. Folic Acid is poisonous to us. We need folate. When I was 15, my front teeth came out like you were talking. I jad to remove 4 wisdom teeth to make room for braces. Two on the top and two on the bottom. I had a huge over bite they do say over and under bites could be a result of needing cell salts.

[@MommingwithMigraine]

Hey! Where'd you learn this stuff from?

[@cavlizzy]

Fun fact: Freddie Mercury refused to have his teeth fixed cause he was afraid it would affect his singing voice. 😊

[@sravani_mylavarapu]

Hi I'm a classical singer .. does removing tongue tie affect my singing

[@cavlizzy]

@@sravani_mylavarapu I don’t know… but I’m a dental hygienist not a DDS. I would suggest you get an opinion from an oral surgeon or a Prosthodontist to be certain! It might take some getting used to afterwards as far as singing goes… but I am just guessing. If singing is your career… you would want the opinion from a specialist like the two kinds I mentioned.

[@cavlizzy]

@@sravani_mylavarapu 2) I would also suggest using an oral surgeon or Prosthodontist to do the “frenectomy” (tongue tie removal) While it’s not major surgery… you want it done right! Having worked for both DDS & prosthodontists…. I can tell you that DDS (regular dentists) don’t do them often. (Rarely in fact) Where the other 2 specialties do them routinely!

[@laurenminton6133]

​@sravanimylavarapu8229 maybe as you'll have a larger mouth for more power/articulation? I'm not musical just things I've heard from coaches commenting on it being good to have a big jaw opening and good tongue posture

[@Innateworth]

​@@laurenminton6133oh interesting, I've always had a soft voice, I see it could be because I have a narrow jaw and "small mouth" according to my orthodontist

[@faylinn333]

i can’t reach my nose with my tongue and i have a medium tongue tie

[@despinanikiforou7523]

Go watch the Orthotropics by Doctor Mew / The Founders of Mewing: Dive into the Authentic Guide to a Natural Jawline you should be able to find the answers you are looking and more :)

[@macawlovers1964]

I need this done. What surgeon do I go to get it done?

[@MommingwithMigraine]

I went to a facial plastic surgeon.

[@mariejiminez1733]

Yes my lips did get fuller

[@MommingwithMigraine]

Makes sense

[@JulianneNA]

What?? How? Why?

[@MommingwithMigraine]

@@JulianneNA relaxation throughout the jaw, neck, and face makes the lips less tense as well. Tense lips are smaller and tighter.

[@user-yw1iv6pz5j]

17:01: Orofacial myofunctional therapy

[@DyreElsker78]

I still want that fifth video ;p ;)

[@MommingwithMigraine]

It's recorded and in editing!!!!!! 😂💜🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 I appreciate you so much for putting up with me and my forgetful brain and my crazy life

[@DyreElsker78]

@@MommingwithMigraine That`s wonderful :D Thank you for replaying :D

[@energyayogafortraumabyradi1185]

Dnt they have to remove stitches after 2 weeks ?

[@MommingwithMigraine]

I don't remember going back in. I think they dissolved

[@AppleGakure]

A week for recovery is quite ok tho.

[@dionnesimoneissmitten4436]

I have H-EDS, it appears I am tongue tied, I have a mild Gorlin's sign.

[@carom3597]

My husband and I both had our tongue ties released and we can’t lick our noses. Are you supposed to be able to? lol

[@MommingwithMigraine]

I don't know 😅💜😘

[@Brendaglam24]

Can you speak better after frenuloplasty

[@MommingwithMigraine]

Yes but there was a learning curve haha!

[@erictaylor5462]

13:30 If any part of your body is not connected, it is no longer part of your body.

[@fanuvgod1]

Thanks detective.

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

explore PRI and whole body posture it's not only tongue and jar...

[@Facecel_]

Explain pls

[@michaelsteinberg7602]

Had a sleep test yet?

[@Ivorymoana]

Another thing, in my lactation consultant studies, I learned that before the advent of infant formula, the nurse would get out her scissors and clip every infant’s tongue because if the infant couldn’t breastfeed, they would die. Infant formula was marketed so well that mother’s weren’t aware that formula is NOT as good for the baby as breast milk.

[@camilamaldonado8691]

Before a tongue tie release you must go to myofunctional therapy, therefore the cons are much less

[@JulianneNA]

“Must” is incorrect. Mine is next week, and they haven’t said a word about prep.